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Title: Is Aftermath REALLY indepedant?
Post by: _That_Cracka_J on July 16, 2003, 10:02:29 AM
How can it really be "Dre's" own label for him to call his own shots and release what he wants, when he wants when it's gotta pass Jimmy at Interscope?  All this talk of them rejecting Rakim's new one and Em's last one has got me thinking....That's fucked up when you got your own label and someone tells you that you can't release an album.
Title: Re:Is Aftermath REALLY indepedant?
Post by: Don Seer on July 16, 2003, 10:04:47 AM
Aftermath is a vanity plate, its a desk at interscope.
Title: Re:Is Aftermath REALLY indepedant?
Post by: _That_Cracka_J on July 16, 2003, 10:14:11 AM
Aftermath is a vanity plate, its a desk at interscope.

Right, I just think it's fucked up that Dre can't release whatever HE wants....it all comes down to someone else's decision, when all these other indepedant record labels release anything they want.
Title: Re:Is Aftermath REALLY indepedant?
Post by: On The Edge of Insanity on July 16, 2003, 11:34:53 AM
Aftermath isn't independent. It's a joint venture with Interscope. Most indepedent labels just sign distribution deals with various companies, sometimes including the majors. Aftermath is locked in with Interscope, and I think techically Interscope own Aftermath, so Dre wouldn't be able to use the Aftermath name anywhere else if he quit Interscope.
Title: Re:Is Aftermath REALLY indepedant?
Post by: LazyLatino on July 16, 2003, 11:35:58 AM
I have said this once and imma say it again...DRE IS JIMMYS PUPPET!!!!
Title: Re:Is Aftermath REALLY indepedant?
Post by: Don Seer on July 16, 2003, 11:38:37 AM
Aftermath isn't independent. It's a joint venture with Interscope. Most indepedent labels just sign distribution deals with various companies, sometimes including the majors. Aftermath is locked in with Interscope, and I think techically Interscope own Aftermath, so Dre wouldn't be able to use the Aftermath name anywhere else if he quit Interscope.

naww i dont think thats right. because there was talk of one of the aftermath  projects dropping on another label... universal maybe.. i cant remember..  (maybe joe beast?)

someone will know  i'm sure.
Title: Re:Is Aftermath REALLY indepedant?
Post by: Quadruple OG on July 16, 2003, 12:05:24 PM
I have said this once and imma say it again...DRE IS JIMMYS PUPPET!!!!

that basically describes the Aftermath/Interscope deal
Title: Re:Is Aftermath REALLY indepedant?
Post by: D.R.E.-Dogg on July 16, 2003, 01:24:28 PM
I'm sick of this shit, mothafuck jimmy and interscope.. Dre should realize it and try and become independant..
Title: Re:Is Aftermath REALLY indepedant?
Post by: Mudpole on July 16, 2003, 01:45:04 PM
What really pisses me off is Jimmy is all ways going on
about how great Dre is a producer and he is a genius
well why the fuck do you stop him releasing his artists
records and fuckin' them about. Yeah Dre should leave
Interscope cause he can easily go some where else cause
Dre is great at what he does and people whould be dying
to get Dre to sign with them, but the only downside to that
is Dre whould lose all his roster cause they signed with
Interscope.
Title: Re:Is Aftermath REALLY indepedant?
Post by: The Watcher on July 16, 2003, 05:15:50 PM
jimmy owns more of Aftermath than Dre does
Title: Re:Is Aftermath REALLY indepedant?
Post by: Halu Sination on July 16, 2003, 05:32:37 PM
theyre not an independent label. theyre a record label, with interscope in charge of the distribution. like so many others have been saying, i simply must say fuck jimmy and interscope.

im amazed jurassic 5 has ever gotten their shit released on interscope
Title: Re:Is Aftermath REALLY indepedant?
Post by: 2k2 on July 16, 2003, 07:43:21 PM
Whats the use of having your own label if you can't release nuthin'. Interscope can release a Bubba Sparks album ,but no Rakim after all this time. Dre should have more to do with albums being released on his label why the hell even sign anyone when they'll never drop an album on your label. Even if its a problem on Interscope's behalf it makes Dre look bad in the eyes of all the people waitin for these albums that never see light and it gives the haters something to talk about. I wonder what's next for aftermath ?
Title: Re:Is Aftermath REALLY indepedant?
Post by: M Dogg™ on July 17, 2003, 12:51:26 AM
I think Dre owns 50% and Interscope owns 50%. At least that's what I remember after Dre left Death Row. He went from owning 50% of Death Row, which was independant of a major label dictating them because Death Row independant, where as Aftermath is connected to Interscope. Though i remember hearing how much freedom they would allow Dre to release stuff on Aftermath, more so than Suge, which Suge didn't care what was released, as long as it was raw and streets. So I wonder what happened to the promised freedom. Maybe it was ... Presents The Aftermath?
Title: Re:Is Aftermath REALLY indepedant?
Post by: CharlieBrown on July 17, 2003, 01:29:40 AM
Did you all forget Dre selling his half of Aftermath to Interscope like a year ago? Thats what made him the highest paid musician last year. I dunno if Dre owns any of Aftermath anymore, but if he does it's a tiny percentage of it.
Title: Re:Is Aftermath REALLY indepedant?
Post by: LyRiCaL_G on July 17, 2003, 05:19:18 AM
yeah i was jus gonna say, didnt he sell like anopther 20-30% of his share to interscope and like he now only owns like 20-30% percent of aftermath? cuz then really no wonder interscope be makin all the decisions..........whats happenin to hip hop, niggaz be releasin joints of bubba, nelly, ja rule, even other hip hop head who are actually aiight but cant say yes to releasin a album off a legend like rakim........jus what hip hop needed was a real album and its jus what we might no be gettin now
Title: Re:Is Aftermath REALLY indepedant?
Post by: Don Seer on July 17, 2003, 05:36:57 AM
Its called capitalism.   :-\
Title: Re:Is Aftermath REALLY indepedant?
Post by: LyRiCaL_G on July 17, 2003, 05:46:17 AM
tru dat, but whats even more fucked is that obies gettin released over ra, i mean i dunno if its still jimmy or paul rosenburg who gives the go ahead for shady recs releases but it seems like they'll say yes to anything comin from eminem yet dres actin like a lil bitch if this is all true...........maybe its dre who doesnt wanna release it, i dunno, but if this aint no lil stunt and shits true, pure wackness...........obie, 50,D Muthafuckin 12 over rakim...........bitch pleez, shits embarassin
Title: Re:Is Aftermath REALLY indepedant?
Post by: Sir Hambone on July 17, 2003, 04:47:24 PM
yeah that makes me wonder...

there is Shady/Interscope

Now there is G-Unit/Interscope..
now i know 50cent is a hard headed mutha........jimmy try to say NO to him......he might get clapped.......i dont think jimmy can take nine like 50...
lol im just playing....
but for real...i like dre as a producer when he Actually does release shit.....but as far as being able to release what he wants.....yeah he is getting FUCKED

when did it all start.....................

the WARRENG   G  song with DRE, where he couldnt do the video or something......

shit.......if dre really doesnt own aftermath.....he is smart....................capitalism is correct........i figure dre just cares about his masters...as long as he owns them....and gets a percentage.....

come on now..he has a gang of shit in his vault, that will never see the light of day......u never hear his shit being bootlegged....he must be doing something right........

and interscope knows if dre was to leave..........any major would be happy to give dre what he is looking for...

but at the same time.......independent is best in my eyes.........not like dre needs anymore money.....

Title: Re:Is Aftermath REALLY indepedant?
Post by: dexter on July 17, 2003, 04:56:54 PM
Its called Business.
Title: Re:Is Aftermath REALLY indepedant?
Post by: _That_Cracka_J on July 17, 2003, 05:40:59 PM
I think everybody's missing my point....I KNOW that Aftermath isn't it's OWN label, but a subsidary of Interscope.  The point I'm trying to make is that Dre couldn't do what he wanted at Death Row, so he left.  He goes develops Aftermath on his own so he can do what he wants as a label and what not.  It seems like he's worse off on Aftermath than he was on Death Row as far as releasing projects go.
Title: Re:Is Aftermath REALLY indepedant?
Post by: Bigg AG on July 17, 2003, 05:45:04 PM
I have said this once and imma say it again...DRE IS JIMMYS PUPPET!!!!

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