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Title: Tech N9ne - Speedom (WWC2) (feat. Eminem & Krizz Kaliko)
Post by: OmegaRed on April 20, 2015, 10:21:40 AM
https://www.youtube.com/v/_FBwVRNOL70
Title: Re: Tech N9ne - Speedom (WWC2) (feat. Eminem & Krizz Kaliko)
Post by: CORREA on April 20, 2015, 12:16:35 PM
https://www.youtube.com/v/_FBwVRNOL70

seems like tech didn't even try but i guess he had to do what he had to do to get the em feature
overall it was good i didnt really like the beat and also the fact that they let em look better then them
Title: Re: Tech N9ne - Speedom (WWC2) (feat. Eminem & Krizz Kaliko)
Post by: Dogg Ly Dogg on April 20, 2015, 02:16:42 PM
https://www.youtube.com/v/_FBwVRNOL70

seems like tech didn't even try but i guess he had to do what he had to do to get the em feature
overall it was good i didnt really like the beat and also the fact that they let em look better then them

Agreed for Tech, he sounds average like he wants Em to shine on that song but it's a banger tho
Title: Re: Tech N9ne - Speedom (WWC2) (feat. Eminem & Krizz Kaliko)
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on April 20, 2015, 05:40:24 PM
i like it.


i'm not the biggest fan of the hook but the raps are on point and i bet this shit hits hard in the whip  8)
Title: Re: Tech N9ne - Speedom (WWC2) (feat. Eminem & Krizz Kaliko)
Post by: Sccit on April 20, 2015, 05:57:42 PM
not bad....not worth the 15 year wait and build-up. like others said, eminem came the hardest, and tech def coulda came harder. but still, overall pretty good track.
Title: Re: Tech N9ne - Speedom (WWC2) (feat. Eminem & Krizz Kaliko)
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on April 20, 2015, 06:23:07 PM
not bad....not worth the 15 year wait and build-up. like others said, eminem came the hardest, and tech def coulda came harder. but still, overall pretty good track.

yeah i'll agree that i expect better based off the names alone
Title: Re: Tech N9ne - Speedom (WWC2) (feat. Eminem & Krizz Kaliko)
Post by: GangstaBoogy on April 20, 2015, 11:01:20 PM
Eminem's verse is fuckin insane!

He knew he had to step his game up after letting Big Sean walk all over his shit.
Title: Re: Tech N9ne - Speedom (WWC2) (feat. Eminem & Krizz Kaliko)
Post by: CORREA on April 21, 2015, 06:46:26 AM
Eminem's verse is fuckin insane!

He knew he had to step his game up after letting Big Sean walk all over his shit.

tech would have killed em but he held back maybe that was the deal
Title: Re: Tech N9ne - Speedom (WWC2) (feat. Eminem & Krizz Kaliko)
Post by: me1 on April 21, 2015, 08:26:08 AM
Eminem's verse is fuckin insane!

He knew he had to step his game up after letting Big Sean walk all over his shit.

tech would have killed em but he held back maybe that was the deal

Not the best business move to hold back when all of Eminem's fans are listening to you, many of whom for the first time. If you can shit all over him on a track, by all means do so

Title: Re: Tech N9ne - Speedom (WWC2) (feat. Eminem & Krizz Kaliko)
Post by: Sccit on April 21, 2015, 09:47:27 AM
techs verse is still dope, just not one of his best
Title: Re: Tech N9ne - Speedom (WWC2) (feat. Eminem & Krizz Kaliko)
Post by: OmegaRed on April 21, 2015, 09:57:43 AM
*shrug* Like the fact that this is technical when you think about how they using they breath control (giving that its been stated that Tech doesnt punch in) not feeling eminem verse.
Title: Re: Tech N9ne - Speedom (WWC2) (feat. Eminem & Krizz Kaliko)
Post by: CORREA on April 21, 2015, 11:44:23 AM
Eminem's verse is fuckin insane!

He knew he had to step his game up after letting Big Sean walk all over his shit.

tech would have killed em but he held back maybe that was the deal

Not the best business move to hold back when all of Eminem's fans are listening to you, many of whom for the first time. If you can shit all over him on a track, by all means do so



true but maybe his business move granted more em features
Title: Re: Tech N9ne - Speedom (WWC2) (feat. Eminem & Krizz Kaliko)
Post by: Sccit on April 21, 2015, 01:35:59 PM
*shrug* Like the fact that this is technical when you think about how they using they breath control (giving that its been stated that Tech doesnt punch in) not feeling eminem verse.


all these verses have hella punch-ins bruh
Title: Re: Tech N9ne - Speedom (WWC2) (feat. Eminem & Krizz Kaliko)
Post by: Eddz on April 21, 2015, 04:42:53 PM
It's a cool track but being a huge fan of both artist, I was hoping to hear something a little more epic from these two instead of who can rap the fastest.
Title: Re: Tech N9ne - Speedom (WWC2) (feat. Eminem & Krizz Kaliko)
Post by: Sccit on April 21, 2015, 06:05:15 PM
it's funny, cuz eminm was never really known as a fast rapper when he first came out
Title: Re: Tech N9ne - Speedom (WWC2) (feat. Eminem & Krizz Kaliko)
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on April 21, 2015, 06:38:48 PM
it's funny, cuz eminm was never really known as a fast rapper when he first came out

yeah Em didn't rap fast on infinite, d12 ep or the SS EP/LP's


aka his best work  8)


Title: Re: Tech N9ne - Speedom (WWC2) (feat. Eminem & Krizz Kaliko)
Post by: Chamillitary Click on April 21, 2015, 07:23:56 PM
Eminem came through. I respect that.

not bad....not worth the 15 year wait and build-up.
Title: Re: Tech N9ne - Speedom (WWC2) (feat. Eminem & Krizz Kaliko)
Post by: Sccit on April 21, 2015, 07:27:38 PM
it's funny, cuz eminm was never really known as a fast rapper when he first came out

yeah Em didn't rap fast on infinite, d12 ep or the SS EP/LP's


aka his best work  8)





he did rap fast on infinite actually...but yea, almost like it was durin his experimental stages of findin himsef, cuz in his prime, shit was chop free.
Title: Re: Tech N9ne - Speedom (WWC2) (feat. Eminem & Krizz Kaliko)
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on April 22, 2015, 10:18:07 AM
i guess he had a few fast flows on infinite now but nothing ike this
Title: Re: Tech N9ne - Speedom (WWC2) (feat. Eminem & Krizz Kaliko)
Post by: Sccit on April 22, 2015, 10:27:53 AM
https://www.youtube.com/v/UzGpID0urLs
Title: Re: Tech N9ne - Speedom (WWC2) (feat. Eminem & Krizz Kaliko)
Post by: Chamillitary Click on April 22, 2015, 11:04:11 AM
Oh, don't post that. It just makes me upset.

Brings me back to when Eminem spit verses in chronological order & it stuck through the same story & subject matter throughout, not just a bunch of random lines that rhyme with no direction or point.
Title: Re: Tech N9ne - Speedom (WWC2) (feat. Eminem & Krizz Kaliko)
Post by: me1 on April 22, 2015, 01:26:29 PM
Oh, don't post that. It just makes me upset.

Brings me back to when Eminem spit verses in chronological order & it stuck through the same story & subject matter throughout, not just a bunch of random lines that rhyme with no direction or point.

+1. bittersweet hearing that.

Title: Re: Tech N9ne - Speedom (WWC2) (feat. Eminem & Krizz Kaliko)
Post by: Chamillitary Click on April 22, 2015, 03:04:46 PM
Oh, don't post that. It just makes me upset.

Brings me back to when Eminem spit verses in chronological order & it stuck through the same story & subject matter throughout, not just a bunch of random lines that rhyme with no direction or point.

+1. bittersweet hearing that.



It was a great time in Hip Hop lol.
Title: Re: Tech N9ne - Speedom (WWC2) (feat. Eminem & Krizz Kaliko)
Post by: Jome on April 26, 2015, 02:09:22 PM
*shrug* Like the fact that this is technical when you think about how they using they breath control (giving that its been stated that Tech doesnt punch in) not feeling eminem verse.


all these verses have hella punch-ins bruh

Ey NIK, could you shed some light on the punch-in subject?

I assume a lot of rappers do it, but is there a way to tell, from just listening?
And where does the line go, from adlibs, punch-ins, and the "double voice" effect.. I would think a lot of artists spend more time polishing and "photoshopping" their verses than they actually do writing and recording it..

Title: Re: Tech N9ne - Speedom (WWC2) (feat. Eminem & Krizz Kaliko)
Post by: Sccit on April 26, 2015, 02:54:17 PM
*shrug* Like the fact that this is technical when you think about how they using they breath control (giving that its been stated that Tech doesnt punch in) not feeling eminem verse.


all these verses have hella punch-ins bruh

Ey NIK, could you shed some light on the punch-in subject?

I assume a lot of rappers do it, but is there a way to tell, from just listening?
And where does the line go, from adlibs, punch-ins, and the "double voice" effect.. I would think a lot of artists spend more time polishing and "photoshopping" their verses than they actually do writing and recording it..




exactly on point.....writing and recording is the easy part. the mixing and mastering to make it sound picture perfect is what typically takes the longest and is generally the most taxing. but a lot of times, that falls on the engineer, as opposed to the rapper.... sometimes, it's easy as fuck to tell when a rapper punched in....but a lot of the times, they mask it so well with over-dubs and adlibs, to the point where the audience wouldnt be able to tell by just listening.....if it sounds impossible to rap without taking breaths in between, then it most likely contains a number of punch-ins engineered to sound like 1 solid verse.... it goes both ways tho. just as many verses get rapped front to back with no punch-ins.. just a bunch of overdubs to replace fuck ups, etc....at the end of the day, there are so many variables, and it's impossible to know exactly how it was done without bein there in the studio and watchin it go down. still, there are definitely times where punch-ins are obvious..especially if the engineer didnt spend a long time masking it.

from personal experience, ive done it every way possible, as have most rappers ive fucked wit....its all circumstantial.
Title: Re: Tech N9ne - Speedom (WWC2) (feat. Eminem & Krizz Kaliko)
Post by: JohnnyL on April 27, 2015, 07:11:57 AM
Great track.  Granted, it did take too long to happen.  I have to say though, while neither Tech or Eminem are in their prime now, I actually think getting this collaboration now, we ended up with a much better Eminem verse than we probably would have gotten, had Eminem contributed a verse to the "My World" track, off of "Everready," like Tech originally wanted him to.  It's impossible to know for sure, but that was right around the "Encore"/"Re Up" period for Eminem, which I still think was the real low point of his career.  He may not be making the best music of his career now, but he's bounced back, considerably, since then.
Title: Re: Tech N9ne - Speedom (WWC2) (feat. Eminem & Krizz Kaliko)
Post by: Paolo on April 27, 2015, 11:15:30 AM
Great track.  Granted, it did take too long to happen.  I have to say though, while neither Tech or Eminem are in their prime now, I actually think getting this collaboration now, we ended up with a much better Eminem verse than we probably would have gotten, had Eminem contributed a verse to the "My World" track, off of "Everready," like Tech originally wanted him to.  It's impossible to know for sure, but that was right around the "Encore"/"Re Up" period for Eminem, which I still think was the real low point of his career.  He may not be making the best music of his career now, but he's bounced back, considerably, since then.

don't like this colaboration i was expect for a better
Title: Re: Tech N9ne - Speedom (WWC2) (feat. Eminem & Krizz Kaliko)
Post by: 7even on April 27, 2015, 11:38:21 AM
Great track.  Granted, it did take too long to happen.  I have to say though, while neither Tech or Eminem are in their prime now, I actually think getting this collaboration now, we ended up with a much better Eminem verse than we probably would have gotten, had Eminem contributed a verse to the "My World" track, off of "Everready," like Tech originally wanted him to.  It's impossible to know for sure, but that was right around the "Encore"/"Re Up" period for Eminem, which I still think was the real low point of his career.  He may not be making the best music of his career now, but he's bounced back, considerably, since then.

Yeah I totally agree with that... going with what Tech and Em are like today, it's pretty much the best kind of effort you could expect. Both are past their prime but I like that Tech is successful now and that Eminem is putting time and effort into his raps.

Maybe we get some cypher-like skill-centered tracks from Tech, Em, Crooked I and Royce 59 some day, that would be tight. And it has never been more realistic than now.
Title: Re: Tech N9ne - Speedom (WWC2) (feat. Eminem & Krizz Kaliko)
Post by: Sccit on April 27, 2015, 02:44:40 PM
Great track.  Granted, it did take too long to happen.  I have to say though, while neither Tech or Eminem are in their prime now, I actually think getting this collaboration now, we ended up with a much better Eminem verse than we probably would have gotten, had Eminem contributed a verse to the "My World" track, off of "Everready," like Tech originally wanted him to.  It's impossible to know for sure, but that was right around the "Encore"/"Re Up" period for Eminem, which I still think was the real low point of his career.  He may not be making the best music of his career now, but he's bounced back, considerably, since then.


the original em collab was sposta be "she devil"...but he got all of d12 minus em on that one
Title: Re: Tech N9ne - Speedom (WWC2) (feat. Eminem & Krizz Kaliko)
Post by: Jome on April 27, 2015, 02:45:39 PM
exactly on point.....writing and recording is the easy part. the mixing and mastering to make it sound picture perfect is what typically takes the longest and is generally the most taxing. but a lot of times, that falls on the engineer, as opposed to the rapper.... sometimes, it's easy as fuck to tell when a rapper punched in....but a lot of the times, they mask it so well with over-dubs and adlibs, to the point where the audience wouldnt be able to tell by just listening.....if it sounds impossible to rap without taking breaths in between, then it most likely contains a number of punch-ins engineered to sound like 1 solid verse.... it goes both ways tho. just as many verses get rapped front to back with no punch-ins.. just a bunch of overdubs to replace fuck ups, etc....at the end of the day, there are so many variables, and it's impossible to know exactly how it was done without bein there in the studio and watchin it go down. still, there are definitely times where punch-ins are obvious..especially if the engineer didnt spend a long time masking it.

from personal experience, ive done it every way possible, as have most rappers ive fucked wit....its all circumstantial.

Thanks for the insight. Would have been interesting to know how many punch-ins Eminems verse contains.. it's so fast I'll probably need to see the lyrics to figure out what the hell he's saying.. (at least 50% of it :P )
Knowing the word pr. minute ratio would also be interesting, compared to e.g. Twista

Maybe we get some cypher-like skill-centered tracks from Tech, Em, Crooked I and Royce 59 some day, that would be tight. And it has never been more realistic than now.

Would be sick.
Title: Re: Tech N9ne - Speedom (WWC2) (feat. Eminem & Krizz Kaliko)
Post by: Eddz on April 27, 2015, 11:57:12 PM
I always thought Tech would of sounded great on "Wicked Ways" off MMLP2.
Title: Re: Tech N9ne - Speedom (WWC2) (feat. Eminem & Krizz Kaliko)
Post by: JohnnyL on April 28, 2015, 07:01:14 AM
Great track.  Granted, it did take too long to happen.  I have to say though, while neither Tech or Eminem are in their prime now, I actually think getting this collaboration now, we ended up with a much better Eminem verse than we probably would have gotten, had Eminem contributed a verse to the "My World" track, off of "Everready," like Tech originally wanted him to.  It's impossible to know for sure, but that was right around the "Encore"/"Re Up" period for Eminem, which I still think was the real low point of his career.  He may not be making the best music of his career now, but he's bounced back, considerably, since then.


the original em collab was sposta be "she devil"...but he got all of d12 minus em on that one

Didn't realize Em was supposed to be on "She-Devil," but that would have been cool.  Even without Em on it, it's one of my favorite tracks on "Absolute Power."
Title: Re: Tech N9ne - Speedom (WWC2) (feat. Eminem & Krizz Kaliko)
Post by: Regime*Rida on May 02, 2015, 06:32:52 AM
Great track.  Granted, it did take too long to happen.  I have to say though, while neither Tech or Eminem are in their prime now, I actually think getting this collaboration now, we ended up with a much better Eminem verse than we probably would have gotten, had Eminem contributed a verse to the "My World" track, off of "Everready," like Tech originally wanted him to.  It's impossible to know for sure, but that was right around the "Encore"/"Re Up" period for Eminem, which I still think was the real low point of his career.  He may not be making the best music of his career now, but he's bounced back, considerably, since then.


the original em collab was sposta be "she devil"...but he got all of d12 minus em on that one

Didn't realize Em was supposed to be on "She-Devil," but that would have been cool.  Even without Em on it, it's one of my favorite tracks on "Absolute Power."

Industry Is Punks kills every track bro, shout out to she devil though


Peace