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2Pac "Pac's Life" Album Tracklisting & Features Info
October 11, 2006 by nando
Amaru has kicked off the promo push for the late Mr. Makaveli, 2Pac's new posthumous album "Pac's Life", with the single "Untouchable" featuring Bone Thugz N Harmony which is a Swizz Beats production. The new album features today's stars to obviously keep up with the times in the rap game, so don't expect the original production and features to make the cut. Pac's Life does feature some of 2Pac's real life affiliates in his lifetime, such as Bone Thugs themselves, Snoop Dogg, E-40, and the Outlawz. Other artists featured are longtime WestCoast Rydaz affiliate DK, TI who you heard on Better Dayz, and 50 Cent and Young Buck reppin' G-Unit.
Here is the official tracklist to the album, look out for more info on "Pac's Life" real soon.
1. Pac's Life (feat. T.I. and Ashanti)
2. Dumpin (feat. Papoose)
3. What's Next
4. Fade Me (feat. R. Kelly)
5. Soon As I Get Home (feat. Chamillionaire and Akon)
6. Untouchable
7. Watch Ya Mouth
8. Til I C L.A.
9. If There's A Cure (I Don't Want It) (feat. Snoop Dogg and The Outlawz)
10. Play Ya Cardz Right (feat. E-40 and DK)
11. Street Life (feat. Snoop Dogg and Zola)
12. 21 Gun Salute (feat. 50 Cent and Young Buck)
13. When Nobody Lovez Me
14. Watch Ya Mouth (Ron Browz Remix)
15. Untouchable (Swizz Remix) (feat. Bone Thugs-N-Harmony)
16. Play Ya Cardz Right (Kanye Remix) (feat. Kanye West and GLC)
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they probably ripped that Street Life off Westwood's show...lol... but naw, its good that song finally gets released
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12. 21 Gun Salute (feat. 50 Cent and Young Buck)
damnit >:(
good to see Snoop and Outlawz there tho
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i'll cop it
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why they need to put "guests" on 11 of the 16 tracks is beyond me.
If Amaru really wanted to respect Tupac, they would just leak the originals in CD quality.
I'm sick of hearing sub standard bullshit from one of the greatest artists ever.
Guess I should at least wait until I hear it though ...
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why they need to put "guests" on 11 of the 16 tracks is beyond me.
If Amaru really wanted to respect Tupac, they would just leak the originals in CD quality.
I'm sick of hearing sub standard bullshit from one of the greatest artists ever.
Guess I should at least wait until I hear it though ...
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Trust me, the leaked CDQ OGs we have now are probably his best... The other shit stayed unreleased for a reason, they sucked. Think about it, he was banging out so many songs a day, not all of them were good songs. Plus they would just sound way too outdated now, and would only sell to the old Pac die-hard fanbase.
Afeni has no choice, if she wants to keep her funding for all the other programs and shit shes does in dedication to Pac up and running.
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they probably ripped that Street Life off Westwood's show...lol... but naw, its good that song finally gets released
but who the hell is Zola though?
i know theres a hidden marker in the rip everyone out here has.. so if it is that I (and a few other people who know what to look for) will be able to tell..
update: seems to be a remix with a new snoop verse
Zola & Snoop Dogg get together for 2Pac!
Recent Hip Hop News | Submit News 07-29-2006, 05:05 PM
The world's biggest hip-hop artist, Snoop Dogg, will be featured on a Tupac Shakur track with SA phenomenon, Zola.
According to Lance Stehr CEO of Ghetto Ruff, Zola's record company - Snoop has already recorded his part of the collaboration. Zola will do the same in September when the Tupac Foundation and Tupac's family come to South Africa to scatter some of the dead rapper's ashes over Soweto.
His ashes have already been scattered in the Pacific Ocean and over Malcom X Square in NeW York. A spokesperson for the Tupac foundation said it was appropiate the ashes be scattered over Soweto as the township had palyed a big part in the South African struggle.
During Tupac's upbringing he was not oblivious to the struggle of the black youth in America and Africa.
Tupac's mother, Afeni Shakur, was a section leader in the Black Panthers - a revolutionary African-American group-and this influenced Tupac's life greatly. This can be heard in his lyrics and more so in his poetry.
"We are honoured to be associated with a project of this nature," said Stehr.
It is the first time an African artist will appear with Tupac Shakur & Snoop Dogg. The release date for the album, which includes top acts like 50 Cent, has not been confirmed. Just recently Zola was a support act for Snoop Doog on his tour of South Africa.
Zola was ecstatic yesterday. "When kwaito started over 10 years ago, no one thought it would last....It's now gone international. "I'm so excited that I'll be able to scream in two years time," Zola said
There have been a few rumour's circulating, that an unreleased track called "Street Life" will be remixed for this compilation
source : http://www.hiphoponline.net/rap/showthread.php?t=5972
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Sorry, but I can't imagine ever buying this. Pac's posthumous legacy has been made a disgrace. I just don't believe he would have wanted this.
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they probably ripped that Street Life off Westwood's show...lol... but naw, its good that song finally gets released
update: seems to be a remix with a new snoop verse
shit :(, I want the original in cdq since day 1
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Sorry, but I can't imagine ever buying this. Pac's posthumous legacy has been made a disgrace. I just don't believe he would have wanted this.
Nuff said.
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yup i agree 100%.. fan's want what they know exists.. we don't want 'remixed' bullshit.. we want mixed finalised tracks as much as poss..
i know that the excuse in many cases has been "but the tracks weren't complete".. but with street life we know damn well (that outside maybe some mixing down) the track IS complete enough
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I really dont have a problem with it, sure its not a good thing but no reason to make dramatic scenes about it.
At least the tracklisting looks better than the last time.
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fuck amaru
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they should take off g-unit and kanye.. the others are ok i guess, but of course id rather see rappers like big syke instead of ti and val young instead of ashanti. but there must be some good songs on this no doubt
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Sounds like another remixed wack Pac album (that makes it four)
and Kanye already sampled Play Ya Cardz Right original sample before so I wonder if he's gonna sample it again or sample something else ::)
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Kadafi is not listed on "Soon as I Get Home"....they did not even fucking do that....they better not have. I've defended a lot of the alterations in the past, but that is too fucking far. This better be a mistake. But it probably won't be. It looks too crappy to be fake.
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Altering Soon As I Get Home warrants a nuking from N. Korea
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5. Soon As I Get Home (feat. Chamillionaire and Akon)
THEY FUCKING RUINED THAT SONG! I'm pissed.
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they remove Kadafi from AS SOON AS I GET HOME and put that gay ass of Chamillionaire and Akon
what a dumbass
fuck amaru 4 life
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5. Soon As I Get Home (feat. Chamillionaire and Akon)
THEY FUCKING RUINED THAT SONG! I'm pissed.
How do you know they ruined it if you haven't heard he song?
i know that the excuse in many cases has been "but the tracks weren't complete".. but with street life we know damn well (that outside maybe some mixing down) the track IS complete enough
The tracks may be complete, but depending on the samples that were used, it might cost a lot of money to get clearance to use a beat. One example is with the last album, since Prince wouldn't clear the "If I was your girlfriend" sample for "Thugs Get Lonely Too", thus they had to use an outside producer. Also, with it being 2pac, a lot of artists/producers will drop or reduce their appearance fee so that they could claim they were on a track with 2pac.
yup i agree 100%.. fan's want what they know exists.. we don't want 'remixed' bullshit.. we want mixed finalised tracks as much as poss..
Loyal to the Game went platinum, Better Days and Until the End of Time went multi platinum. Shit, even the much hated on Nu-Mixx classics went Gold. So obviously fans are buying it. Believe it or not, it's only a small percentage of fans that actually know about the originals when you compare it to the music buying public.
I really dont have a problem with it, sure its not a good thing but no reason to make dramatic scenes about it.
At least the tracklisting looks better than the last time.
exactly...they learned from "Loyal 2 the game" and all the negative backlash Amaru got for how much better the 4 non-eminem produced tracks were. This tracklisting looks 100x better than Loyal to the Game.
Here's my question. Obviously some of the material on here is Death Row era material, so is Suge and Death Row going to be listed as a Co-Executive producer?
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soon as i get home is one of my favorite pac song, i always wish i had it in cdq, the beat of this song is so great. They probably redid it with a lil jon beat or sumthin, fuck afeni for not lovin pac's fans
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There are not many tracks that are actually "new" here. I think all that talk of there being 100's of more 2Pac unreleased songs is wrong. The well's running dry. Damn I want all these originals though...
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Yeah but there are still some songs that have not been released yet. When is that 1 Nation dropping? I see they put Fade Me on it. The Og with the Outlawz was my shit the way they flipped that D Angelo beat. Untouchable is on here so I hope they do not remix it. They usually keep 2-5 tracks in their original form so I hope this is one of them. I think in the end they still might release the OG stuff.
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BS i'm not buying this shit
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Lookin at the listing again I think this is fake.
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"Pac's Life" is the title????
Damn, Afeni's gotta put some more of that creative side to her shit...
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I really dont have a problem with it, sure its not a good thing but no reason to make dramatic scenes about it.
At least the tracklisting looks better than the last time.
We know you dont have a problem with it 50 Cent and Young buck are on the album .
Im not buyn this cd
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Its sad but I just cant see myself supporting these releases. Why should we allow them to "dup" us like that. Seer said it right, we want mixed down, CDQ as close to original songs as possible. Because we know the original stuff exists we cant fooled into buying anything less. They can fool some of the new cats who just got into Pac and have no clue how dope things where in the 90's. Those are the people that I could see possibly getting into a Pac \ G-Unit colab, but not me.
Speaking of dope originals, has anyone heard that Too Late Playa (I think thats the name if it) song by Hammer feat. Pac? I guess Im late, but I just heard it and thats the kinda heat fans wanna hear. Its crazy to hear dope untouched songs like that.
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I really think that Afeni and Amaru figure everyone already has the originals so why bother putting in out. It has been bootlegged so heavy. They probably think the sales would suffer but I do agree if it is CDQ, and they advertise it, people would buy the shit out it.
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i hope theres more artist then what it says there we need quick and big syke on it and nas and emenem also..what the fuck?
but i heard that its new shit from pac alot of new shit...
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Its sad but I just cant see myself supporting these releases. Why should we allow them to "dup" us like that. Seer said it right, we want mixed down, CDQ as close to original songs as possible. Because we know the original stuff exists we cant fooled into buying anything less. They can fool some of the new cats who just got into Pac and have no clue how dope things where in the 90's. Those are the people that I could see possibly getting into a Pac \ G-Unit colab, but not me.
I already responded to 'seer when he said the same thing (which you can read below). Just to add on, everyone would love an unreleased, original boxed set of ALL of Pac's unreleased songs. However, it's not going to happen. As Pac and Johnny J's chemistry together was great, they sampled and interpolated a little TOO much. Money wise, it would cost a shitload of money for Afeni, Suge, Interscope, etc. to get every song cleared to be released in its original form. Not to defend what Afeni did to the "Loyal to the game" album, but if you're a CEO and you're looking to make money with a release, do you
1) Spend the money to clear every sample and pay every artist that appeared for not just the appearance fees, but for every copy of the album that's sold?
or
2) Take advantage of popular artists that would greatly reduce their appearance fee (supposedly Eminem did the production on the album for Free just to be a part of the 2pac legacy) just to be on the same track as the GOAT, use original beats, and pay off the artists that were on the originals only once?
It's not like Afeni is buying Maybach's, cases of Hennessey, Air Force One's and 20 mansions with the money she's making off of releasing 2pac albums. Most of that money is probably going to the different 2pac related charities and that Performing arts school in ATL. The music may suck ass, but the money spent is being used for better things than the money made by every rap artist out.
i know that the excuse in many cases has been "but the tracks weren't complete".. but with street life we know damn well (that outside maybe some mixing down) the track IS complete enough
The tracks may be complete, but depending on the samples that were used, it might cost a lot of money to get clearance to use a beat. One example is with the last album, since Prince wouldn't clear the "If I was your girlfriend" sample for "Thugs Get Lonely Too", thus they had to use an outside producer. Also, with it being 2pac, a lot of artists/producers will drop or reduce their appearance fee so that they could claim they were on a track with 2pac.
yup i agree 100%.. fan's want what they know exists.. we don't want 'remixed' bullshit.. we want mixed finalised tracks as much as poss..
Loyal to the Game went platinum, Better Days and Until the End of Time went multi platinum. Shit, even the much hated on Nu-Mixx classics went Gold. So obviously fans are buying it. Believe it or not, it's only a small percentage of fans that actually know about the originals when you compare it to the music buying public.
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Nu Mixx Klassiks did not go gold. That or the Live album.
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Nu Mixx Klassiks did not go gold. That or the Live album.
It sold over 360,000 in the United States, probably did go gold worldwide, I'd have to double check that one. But the point remains the same, there are fans that will buy anything with "2pac" on it.
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^^^ Not the real fans maybe sum newbies or sum bitchez not me what are you the New 2 Pac Material spokeperson ???
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^^^ Not the real fans maybe sum newbies or sum bitchez not me what are you the New 2 Pac Material spokeperson ???
I'm just stating the truth. XXL had it in the 2pac tribute issue that it sold 360,000 in the US alone. According to Wikipedia the "Live at the House of Blue's" album is platinum, although I don't remember hearing about it being certified at all.
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Yeah, I agree that it would cost too much money to release all of the originals due to clearance/sample fees. I don't understand why she just doesn't leak the originals (CD quality). Mixtape the shit, just leak it! Where would the harm be in that?
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Yeah, I agree that it would cost too much money to release all of the originals due to clearance/sample fees. I don't understand why she just doesn't leak the originals (CD quality). Mixtape the shit, just leak it! Where would the harm be in that?
She could do that, like Tha Outlawz are supposedly doing with their Death Row album, but the problem is with a lot of the material, she has to co-release with Suge and Interscope, and I don't think Suge or Jimmy Iovine would like the idea of giving away shit for free when you could make serious money selling originals.
Remember, Death Row a few years ago was advertising a 4-disc boxed set of 2pac originals prior to Afeni getting involved and the result was UTEOT and Better Days
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Nu Mixx Klassiks did not go gold. That or the Live album.
It sold over 360,000 in the United States, probably did go gold worldwide, I'd have to double check that one. But the point remains the same, there are fans that will buy anything with "2pac" on it.
Yeah people are still buying it, but sales are steadily dropping. look at all of the releases after he died
Still I Rise 2 X plat
Until The End Of Time (dd) 3 X Plat
Better Dayz (dd) 2 X Plat
Loyal 2 The Game Plat
Ressurrection Plat
Nu Mixx/Pac Live album 0 in U.S.
People are getting fed up and they want those originals. Or at least a better representation of what Pac's music is and what it probably would sound like. And each of those albums up to the most recent ones they use Johnny J, Outlawz, Thug Life and actual Pac collaborators less and less. I don't mind if they remix it, but give back also to the people he worked with. Johnny J should be a executive producer or at least overseer on these projects. And that House of Blues dvd is UNCUT & ORIGINAL.
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I still go out and support even the remixed albums because I believe the money is going to a good cause, but some of the collabos they come up with are suspect. I mean people damn near rioted when Nas was on Betta Dayz.
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People are getting fed up and they want those originals. Or at least a better representation of what Pac's music is and what it probably would sound like. And each of those albums up to the most recent ones they use Johnny J, Outlawz, Thug Life and actual Pac collaborators less and less. I don't mind if they remix it, but give back also to the people he worked with. Johnny J should be a executive producer or at least overseer on these projects. And that House of Blues dvd is UNCUT & ORIGINAL.
Depends on which people because 10 years later, there's two different group of rap fans. One group consists of everyone that was listeing to rap while Pac was alive who know the music he's capable of making and pay enough attention to fnd the originals. This consists of pretty much the majority of dubcnn, wcrydaz, etc. We're the group of people that know about the unreleased classics and know what they have to work with. However, this group is the minority.
The other group is a new generation of rap fans that haven't heard the originals, or any Pac album while he was alive. They hear Pac music that's being released now and think it's the shit because all the newer generation artists are on it (G-Unit, Eminem, Akon, Chamillionaiire, Kanye, etc.). Sadly these are the majority and they are the ones that are buying the albums. Plus you factor in that music sales in general are down because of the internet (which wasn't in full effect in the mid 90's), and yea, album sales across the board will be slow. Ironically, because of this, going Gold is starting to mean something again, since for a while music sales were inflated like baseball stats because of the bubblegum pop groups and singers. But back to the point, they hear the Pac tracks, and the beats and production are more relevent to this era of rap than in the mid 90's.
Odds are, the only person that could possibly release the originals as they were would be Suge, because he made Pac into a superstar and he's more in touch with what the Pac fans than Afeni/Jimmy Iovine are.
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People are getting fed up and they want those originals. Or at least a better representation of what Pac's music is and what it probably would sound like. And each of those albums up to the most recent ones they use Johnny J, Outlawz, Thug Life and actual Pac collaborators less and less. I don't mind if they remix it, but give back also to the people he worked with. Johnny J should be a executive producer or at least overseer on these projects. And that House of Blues dvd is UNCUT & ORIGINAL.
Depends on which people because 10 years later, there's two different group of rap fans. One group consists of everyone that was listeing to rap while Pac was alive who know the music he's capable of making and pay enough attention to fnd the originals. This consists of pretty much the majority of dubcnn, wcrydaz, etc. We're the group of people that know about the unreleased classics and know what they have to work with. However, this group is the minority.
The other group is a new generation of rap fans that haven't heard the originals, or any Pac album while he was alive. They hear Pac music that's being released now and think it's the shit because all the newer generation artists are on it (G-Unit, Eminem, Akon, Chamillionaiire, Kanye, etc.). Sadly these are the majority and they are the ones that are buying the albums. Plus you factor in that music sales in general are down because of the internet (which wasn't in full effect in the mid 90's), and yea, album sales across the board will be slow. Ironically, because of this, going Gold is starting to mean something again, since for a while music sales were inflated like baseball stats because of the bubblegum pop groups and singers. But back to the point, they hear the Pac tracks, and the beats and production are more relevent to this era of rap than in the mid 90's.
Odds are, the only person that could possibly release the originals as they were would be Suge, because he made Pac into a superstar and he's more in touch with what the Pac fans than Afeni/Jimmy Iovine are.
People know about the originals. If Pac is on a song with Akon you can pretty much figure out that there is a OG cut somewhere. The same issues Pac fans have with this BIG fans have with that last album. I personally have like alot of the remixed songs UTEOT was bangin, Better Dayz was tight. LTTG even had some good tracks, my issue is some of these collabos. How is it that Johnny J had HEAVY influence on Better Dayz but not on other ones? Tha Outlawz is a no brainer, something would definitely be up if they are not on a album. Even the Yaki Kadafi appearances are altered or cut out. Change the beats but leave the lyrics.
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Johnny J would come back and do those remixed songs justice. His would be as good if not better than his first ones with Pac. Better Dayz had really good production and so did UETOT but those tried to stick with actual producers or ones that really put their all into the record. I have heard better Eminem tracks on G Unit collabos then what was on LTTG. Producers need to step they game up when they touch Pac's shit. Alot of people have heard the OG so your shit better be poppin.
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was reading a post on wcrydaz by someone claiming that they got in touch with Amaru. Supposedly that tracklisting is fake and that the real one is coming out next week
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That's good to hear. You always have 2 or 3 fake tracklistings floating around when a 2Pac album comes out.
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2. Dumpin (feat. Papoose)
5. Soon As I Get Home (feat. Chamillionaire and Akon)
16. Play Ya Cardz Right (Kanye Remix) (feat. Kanye West and GLC)
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oh no, 3 of my favorite unreleased tracks are gonna get slaughtered
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was reading a post on wcrydaz by someone claiming that they got in touch with Amaru. Supposedly that tracklisting is fake and that the real one is coming out next week
good to hear that as i came into this thread with high hopes as id read that Quik and Daz had been doing production on the album.
I have all the Makaveli series and i wish they could realise the OG's in CD quality but i cant see it ever happening.
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Its gonna be real interesting to hear their new versions of "Fade Me" and "Soon As I Get Home." Even though there's good features on both, I doubt they are gonna come close to the originals. Soon As I Get Home is probably the tightest unreleased Pac song.
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what is the release date?
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tracklisting is fake, WCrydaz just took the news off their site
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There is some word going around that this tracklist IS FAKE. So, hopefullly I'm wrong. I know that earlier I said that it won't be fake because it's too crappy to be fake, but apparently there's still hope. For one thing, Young Noble of the Outlawz said he was pretty sure the tracklist was fake, and that they didn't even record anything for that "If There's A Cure" track. So maybe things aren't as bad as I thought at first.
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We should all just stick to the OGs that have been made available over the past years...
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We can confirm the tracklisting posted earlier today is FAKE. Remember if the news isnt posted by Amaru or at the least a reliable source such as MrMakaveli.net 9 times out of 10 its fake.
The REAL tracklisting will be posted as of next week.
On a happier note we can announce that UK and Europe will be able to purchase The new 2pac album as of the 20th of November thats a whole day earlier than american fans.
You know where you always hear it first
PEACE
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its a fake tracklist. Young Noble of the outlawz confirmed it being fake today .. peace
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Sorry, but I can't imagine ever buying this. Pac's posthumous legacy has been made a disgrace. I just don't believe he would have wanted this.
yep this is fucking horrible. everyone involved in the project should be ashamed of themselves
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I heard TI on better dayz? What track?
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I have better things to do with my money like burning it.
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I heard TI on better dayz? What track?
"Changed Man" on disc 1.
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I agree with yall.. i forgive Loyal to the game for the excellent track "Po nigga blues"... thats the kind of pac-songs i wanna hear. I like the idea of givin the new 2pac albums a fresh feeling, so its rellevant, but that tracklist posted in this thread is a sign of poor material, ideas, judgement and respect..