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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: Don Seer on November 20, 2002, 11:26:53 AM

Title: America no longer land of the free?
Post by: Don Seer on November 20, 2002, 11:26:53 AM
citizens spying on each other?  homeland security passed today.

reminds me of....

(http://www.joric.com/Conspiracy/SS-black-p.gif)

the nazi SS. watch out NIK.


Title: Re:America no longer land of the free?
Post by: Hittman2001 on November 20, 2002, 11:37:52 AM
well, it doesn't bother me.  i have nothing to hide. just as long as it doesn't affect the way i live my life i'm okay with it.  but we'll see in the coming months whether or not this will cause a dramatic change.
Title: Re:America no longer land of the free?
Post by: Doggystylin on November 20, 2002, 03:40:36 PM
whats goin on?

i dont pay attention to the news
Title: Re:America no longer land of the free?
Post by: Pillow on November 20, 2002, 04:03:51 PM
this shit aint that big of deal
Title: Re:America no longer land of the free?
Post by: DatNiggaChauncy on November 20, 2002, 04:10:17 PM
I don't get it...
Title: Re:America no longer land of the free?
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on November 20, 2002, 11:18:37 PM
this shit aint that big of deal

unfortunately homie , it is,

i think you should read up on it, being an american citizen this will affect u

peace
Title: Re:America no longer land of the free?
Post by: Trauma-san on November 21, 2002, 12:14:36 AM
I don't feel it's that big of a deal, either.  It's just the president trying to make everybody happy by actively DOING something about terrorism.  
Title: Re:America no longer land of the free?
Post by: Don Seer on November 21, 2002, 12:16:35 AM
ohh god you people really need to check up!
Title: Re:America no longer land of the free?
Post by: Trauma-san on November 21, 2002, 12:18:57 AM
^^ Do you realize how little interaction we have in america with the government?  The only constant connection I have with them is paying taxes.  They can pass nearly any law, and it doesn't affect me very much at all.  Taxes/Fees/etc. are about the only control they have over me.
Title: Re:America no longer land of the free?
Post by: Don Seer on November 21, 2002, 12:32:34 AM
So having people around you (that you know) being paid to spy on you isnt at all worrying at all. This is exactly what the SS did under the Nazi's.
Your privacy is being taken away.
Title: Re:America no longer land of the free?
Post by: Woodrow on November 21, 2002, 08:55:32 AM
citizens spying on each other?  homeland security passed today.

reminds me of....

(http://www.joric.com/Conspiracy/SS-black-p.gif)

the nazi SS. watch out NIK.



have you read the whole bill in it's full final form?

Could you show me where it says that citizens will be required to spy on eachother?
Title: Re:America no longer land of the free?
Post by: Doggystylin on November 21, 2002, 01:52:14 PM
can someone post a link to the story or somethin cause i think most of us here are confused...well i am
Title: Re:America no longer land of the free?
Post by: Don Seer on November 21, 2002, 03:42:27 PM
here;'s one story. i cant find the original which basically talked about how local people would be paid to watch and inform on other people over periods of time. paid citizen spies... just like the SS had.

http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/11/20/terror.tracking/index.html
Title: Re:America no longer land of the free?
Post by: budsmokeronly on November 21, 2002, 06:16:53 PM
U guys really think anyone on here is gonna be spied on?  Hell naw.  U know how expensive that would be to spy on every person in the US.  I ain't trippin on shit.  they gonna stereotype like a mutha fucka.  If u white u ain't got nothin to worry about.  they gonna go after the muslim, and people of other races, people with criminal backgrounds, shit like that.
Title: Re:America no longer land of the free?
Post by: DPG4lyfe on November 21, 2002, 10:51:46 PM
U guys really think anyone on here is gonna be spied on?  Hell naw.  U know how expensive that would be to spy on every person in the US.  I ain't trippin on shit.  they gonna stereotype like a mutha fucka.  If u white u ain't got nothin to worry about.  they gonna go after the muslim, and people of other races, people with criminal backgrounds, shit like that.

ur right there not gonna really spy on whites or latinos or blaccs but moslty muslims.
Title: Re:America no longer land of the free?
Post by: Don Jacob on November 23, 2002, 12:46:56 AM
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ur right there not gonna really spy on whites or latinos or blaccs but moslty muslims.


no blacks and latinos will be spied on 12098371937912873 times more than muslums becuase (and as racist as this sounds [it is true]) latinos and blacks are more delinquent % wise than any other kind of people in the US


they're going to target you if you got a criminal record

suspicious activity (transfering large amounts of $ from account to account and you're not that financially secure)

fresh off the imigration boat


and shit like that




if anything it's just going to be shaking mafias and drug rings and shit like that

if your the average person like me not doing a damn thing wrong you won't be affected AT all


whether you know it or not your being video taped all the time in public anyways .....at the park, in the parking lot, in the store, resturaunt, hell some times in the public restrooms, everywhere and it's been like that fr 20 years.....so if your paranoid about that, than i can see how this new shit would creep you out but  honestly all the gov't will get on me from my family is that they got naked baby pictures of me, and i get gas easily
Title: Re:America no longer land of the free?
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on November 23, 2002, 01:57:04 AM
lol@ you americans just brushing this off

the day will come when u will wake up to this Orwellien nightmare..
Title: Re:America no longer land of the free?
Post by: Don Jacob on November 23, 2002, 02:06:16 AM
oh gosh shut up, it's not like this hasn't  been around



ever seen goodfellas?? that was based on a true story buddy....


how do you think they got John gotti...


why do you think witness protection came up



and yeah i can brush this off cuz , what do i got to hide? i'm doing nothing wrong yo
Title: Re:America no longer land of the free?
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on November 23, 2002, 01:19:20 PM
lol@ you americans just brushing this off

the day will come when u will wake up to this Orwellien nightmare..
Title: Re:America no longer land of the free?
Post by: Woodrow on November 23, 2002, 02:13:12 PM
here;'s one story. i cant find the original which basically talked about how local people would be paid to watch and inform on other people over periods of time. paid citizen spies... just like the SS had.

http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/11/20/terror.tracking/index.html

You can't find it because it never happened. They were TALKING about doing something like that but the uprorar made them realize that it would never work.

That article you showed me had NOTHING to do with the homeland security bill that was just passed.

If you look at the bill in it's whole form, perhpas then we can discuss the civil liberties it takes away...
Title: Re:America no longer land of the free?
Post by: budsmokeronly on November 23, 2002, 09:02:33 PM
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lol@ you americans just brushing this off

the day will come when u will wake up to this Orwellien nightmare..

I would laugh if u were an american and actually got worried and paranoid from this.  Like the dude said the average american has nothing to worry about.  If u are in some deep shit and do some serious illegal crap, then maybe you should be worried.  That is like someone slangin weed, dubs, 1/8 up to ounces, and thinking that the fbi is watching them.  Our government doesn't have nearly the amount of fuckin time, money, and effort to watch up on everyone, or even half of everyone.  I would bet that this never affects my life one bit, throughout my whole life.
Title: Re:America no longer land of the free?
Post by: Don Jacob on November 23, 2002, 10:17:10 PM
this reminds me of when the NBA made the zone defense legal last year.....all these people (who never played in the league and just follow it {kinda like the people who are on the outside looking in on america}) said "oh it's going to shake up the game ....big players like allen iverson are going to fall into obscrurity becuase of this .....the lakers will struggle to make the playoffs becuase of his.....blah blah blah......but all the people who've played through the zone all their life brushed this off and said "it's no biggy , great players find ways to overcome new defenses" .......and look what happened last year iverson became the first player to average over 30 points a game in a season in over a decade and the lakers 3 peated and it affected only the sorry players and maybe 1 or 2 unimportant plays throughout the year.....that's it
Title: Re:America no longer land of the free?
Post by: Primo on November 24, 2002, 07:08:40 AM
none of this shit on here has ever effected my life.I live it and dont worry bout shit..Best way to live...I don't worry about what the government does cuz i have nothing to do about the dicisions they make.Half the problems in the world are caused by racial/religious/political shit..Lay off and don't worry bout it..It just pisses me off to see so many people cry over it.Nonstop.
Title: Re:America no longer land of the free?
Post by: Doggystylin on November 24, 2002, 10:27:20 AM
im not white, but i still hope it wont affect me. it has a bigger chance of affecting me over any of you though because im middle eastern but im not arab damnit so hopefully the gov will realize that none of the terrorists have been iranian, all arabs.
Title: Re:America no longer land of the free?
Post by: Trauma-san on November 24, 2002, 12:51:03 PM
none of this shit on here has ever effected my life.I live it and dont worry bout shit..Best way to live...I don't worry about what the government does cuz i have nothing to do about the dicisions they make.Half the problems in the world are caused by racial/religious/political shit..Lay off and don't worry bout it..It just pisses me off to see so many people cry over it.Nonstop.

I agree.  On another note, people just don't understand what America is all about, what american life is about.  Peace~
Title: Re:America no longer land of the free?
Post by: Woodrow on December 05, 2002, 03:43:59 PM
http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,56701,00.html