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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: h cottie is bac-tive? on March 02, 2006, 09:52:15 AM
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:idea:
i thought it would be a good idea to talk about anything NBA in this thread instead of having random threads, i figure it would clean up the sports section a bit. and tonight the Mavs take on the Spurs so i thought it would be a good time to start the thread.
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Battle 4 Texas
Dallas vs. San Antonio 9:30 ET on TNT tonight
two of the elite teams in the NBA going head to head at the Alamodome in one of the biggest matchups this season
if the Spurs win tonight, they tie for the #1 spot in the Southwest & the Western Conference
Prediction: Winner - ToNe Loser - 7.........good luck to u both ;)
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This could be the game that decides which team wins the WC :o
well one of the most important games anyways ;)
shame I cant see it >:(
dirk should own duncan for the win 8)
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you get a prop. Trade to talk about important games, team improvment, players. On tonight game, I gonna say the Mavs . They have improve on defense, and are on a impressive streak. I don't know what to think about the Spurs when it comes to their chances of back to back . It's Duncan worst season (though still a very good one) due to injuries, same goes for Ginobili. Usually Spurs begin to play their best B-Ball in the last 2 months of the regular season (like others NBA Champs) so we'll see but I don't think they'll win again this year. Plus their unbelievable bench deepness hasn't been THAT helpful til now
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fuck that , i hate going into thread that are 9 pages long
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is that why you hate NIK so much?
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Battle 4 Texas
Prediction: Winner - ToNe Loser - 7.........good luck to u both ;)
The pb is that Tone spends more time to hate Kobe and the Lakers than dealing with his favorite team
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LOL@"Everything NBA Thread". That's weak. Might as well make an "Everything Video Games Thread" an "Every Movie Thread" and maybe even an "Everything Sports Thread"...Fuck it, scrap the Sports Section all together and make it one big thread...
This wont work out, people wanna see different headlines when they enter the Sport Section, they don't wanna have to look through one big thread...The Laker thread is an exception due to game updates, but even that isn't 100%, cuz we still get new Laker threads almost every day...PeACe
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is that why you hate NIK so much?
Actually, no, Jake doesn't hate me...He's one of the few OG's left from this board who still posts here and I'm still cool with...PeACe.
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chill with the negativity NIK... i dont think anybody wants to start a new thread wen they wanna talk about a specific team, or a game, or anything like that. i try to do somethin that would organize the section up a bit but u hafta discourage it because in ur opinion, its "weak". maybe you and don jacob don't like it...but other than that it looks 2 me like a good idea.
if i wanna talk about the knicks, or the playoffs, injuries. i think it's stupid to create a new thread everytime. this makes it much easier for me, and any1 else that wants to talk about anything non-Laker
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is that why you hate NIK so much?
Actually, no, Jake doesn't hate me...He's one of the few OG's left from this board who still posts here and I'm still cool with...PeACe.
i was kiddin around...from now on ill just put up *joke* to diffuse further confusion
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Props
Gregg Popovich for #500 8)
Spurs for Winning :pimp:
Bowen for D'in up Dirk :rubeyes:
TNT for punkin Barkley :laugh:
ToNe :cheers:
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Here are some random pics for y'all......(but really its for me caus i wanna get to 1,000 tonight :sshh:)
(http://www.absolutecelebrities.com/i/mugshot/BarkleyCharles.jpg)(http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/img/v3/06-14-2005.NS_14popovichMAIN.GKD1K90I6.1.jpg)
(http://www.thechessdrum.net/newsbriefs/2005/NB_photos/Michael_Jordan.jpg)(http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2004/writers/phil_taylor/12/06/nd.willingham/p1_red_getty.jpg)
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^^^
Mods please delete this thread. Thanks.
:D
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so it was YOU who gave me that diss to put me @ -15 :'(
i think i mite put that quote in my sig...... :idea: props
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Karma: -14 8)
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Battle 4 Texas
Prediction: Winner - ToNe Loser - 7.........good luck to u both ;)
The pb is that Tone spends more time to hate Kobe and the Lakers than dealing with his favorite team
u guys are so twisted in the head. i think you honestly believe there are only two types of people....Laker fans, and people who hate the Lakers lol. You dont understand that there are A. Laker fans, B. People who hate the Lakers, and C. (the largest group), people who dont give a shit about them. Just because someone gives negative criticism about the Lakers, doesnt mean they hate them. No more then positive feedback means your dickriding. But you guys dont see that. You think im a hater for saying anything negative, but dont consider yourselves dickriders for saying NOTHING negative. You team has positives AND negatives. Kobe has positives AND negatives. You guys are so obsessed that you NEVER mention the negatives....so SOMEbody has to. How gay would this board be, if it was just 30 Laker fans talking about how much they love Kobe. Would u really like that shit?
As for my team, my team is good. I know they are good, and so does everyone else. Right now i still consider Detroit the best team in the league. I believe by playoff time we can be the best, since we usually go through this same run toward playoff time. But i dont need to come on here and keep tellin yall how good they are, cus their play does that for them. You guys are insecure about your team, so you have to keep pumpin em up as much as possible. Ive never been one to come on here and talk shit about how great my team is, cus it only makes u look stupid. Check back through the pages. I didnt even come on here talkin all kinds of shit when they won the championship unless i was respondin to yall talkin shit...whats the point? I leave that to u guys when u get a win.
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Ive never been one to come on here and talk shit
with that bein said....
WUSSUP 7?? 8) lol
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is that why you hate NIK so much?
i hate NIK? when did i start feeling this way? ???
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is that why you hate NIK so much?
i hate NIK? when did i start feeling this way? ???
fuck that , i hate going into thread that are 9 pages long
NIK.....9 page long threads....Still dont get it? :eh:
if not then 4get it caus it's :sign_offtopic: anyway
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Battle 4 Texas
Prediction: Winner - ToNe Loser - 7.........good luck to u both ;)
The pb is that Tone spends more time to hate Kobe and the Lakers than dealing with his favorite team
u guys are so twisted in the head. i think you honestly believe there are only two types of people....Laker fans, and people who hate the Lakers lol. You dont understand that there are A. Laker fans, B. People who hate the Lakers, and C. (the largest group), people who dont give a shit about them. Just because someone gives negative criticism about the Lakers, doesnt mean they hate them. No more then positive feedback means your dickriding. But you guys dont see that. You think im a hater for saying anything negative, but dont consider yourselves dickriders for saying NOTHING negative. You team has positives AND negatives. Kobe has positives AND negatives. You guys are so obsessed that you NEVER mention the negatives....so SOMEbody has to. How gay would this board be, if it was just 30 Laker fans talking about how much they love Kobe. Would u really like that shit?
As for my team, my team is good. I know they are good, and so does everyone else. Right now i still consider Detroit the best team in the league. I believe by playoff time we can be the best, since we usually go through this same run toward playoff time. But i dont need to come on here and keep tellin yall how good they are, cus their play does that for them. You guys are insecure about your team, so you have to keep pumpin em up as much as possible. Ive never been one to come on here and talk shit about how great my team is, cus it only makes u look stupid. Check back through the pages. I didnt even come on here talkin all kinds of shit when they won the championship unless i was respondin to yall talkin shit...whats the point? I leave that to u guys when u get a win.
LOL. People can discuss their teams without "pumpin em up"....You say we only talk about positives. WTF? Show me...I always talk about what the Lakers need to do to improve. Show me where you've said positive things about Kobe and the Lakers...And I dont mean "Oh, yea, Kobe is a good scorer, but...", I mean show me where you've given REAL props, where you haven't entered a Laker thread to do nothing but disagree with props given...PeACe
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Battle 4 Texas
Prediction: Winner - ToNe Loser - 7.........good luck to u both ;)
The pb is that Tone spends more time to hate Kobe and the Lakers than dealing with his favorite team
u guys are so twisted in the head. i think you honestly believe there are only two types of people....Laker fans, and people who hate the Lakers lol. You dont understand that there are A. Laker fans, B. People who hate the Lakers, and C. (the largest group), people who dont give a shit about them. Just because someone gives negative criticism about the Lakers, doesnt mean they hate them. No more then positive feedback means your dickriding. But you guys dont see that. You think im a hater for saying anything negative, but dont consider yourselves dickriders for saying NOTHING negative. You team has positives AND negatives. Kobe has positives AND negatives. You guys are so obsessed that you NEVER mention the negatives....so SOMEbody has to. How gay would this board be, if it was just 30 Laker fans talking about how much they love Kobe. Would u really like that shit?
As for my team, my team is good. I know they are good, and so does everyone else. Right now i still consider Detroit the best team in the league. I believe by playoff time we can be the best, since we usually go through this same run toward playoff time. But i dont need to come on here and keep tellin yall how good they are, cus their play does that for them. You guys are insecure about your team, so you have to keep pumpin em up as much as possible. Ive never been one to come on here and talk shit about how great my team is, cus it only makes u look stupid. Check back through the pages. I didnt even come on here talkin all kinds of shit when they won the championship unless i was respondin to yall talkin shit...whats the point? I leave that to u guys when u get a win.
LOL. People can discuss their teams without "pumpin em up"....You say we only talk about positives. WTF? Show me...I always talk about what the Lakers need to do to improve. Show me where you've said positive things about Kobe and the Lakers...And I dont mean "Oh, yea, Kobe is a good scorer, but...", I mean show me where you've given REAL props, where you haven't entered a Laker thread to do nothing but disagree with props given...PeACe
i set up that thread after after they lost to the Jazz, when Kobe was suspended and said how well they played. That they needed to keep going with the better ball movement, even when Kobe returned. ill give it to u, that occasionally youll come up with shit they need to improve on. in your case, maybe i should have said you only talk about KOBES positives. And yeah, u can discuss your team without pumpin em up. But a discussion is a two way conversation. Not just "we're so great, Kobe...i love him so much, we beat ourselves cus we're really better then the teams we lose to...", etc. I guarentee you....if u guys decreased the amount of "dickriding" u do, ud see a decrease in the amount of "hating".
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^^ Can you please shut the fuck up?
anyways....i hope the Suns make it to the NBA Finals ..i tried watching that game last night & it was painfull,,no wonder the spurs have the #1 & #2 lowest ratings in NBA Finals History. no one gives a fuck about them...the suns at least are axciting to watch just like the shaq,kobe Lakers
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^^ Can you please shut the fuck up?
anyways....i hope the Suns make it to the NBA Finals ..i tried watching that game last night & it was painfull,,no wonder the spurs have the #1 & #2 lowest ratings in NBA Finals History. no one gives a fuck about them...the suns at least are axciting to watch just like the shaq,kobe Lakers
It's not gonna make a difference with the NBA Ratings if either the Suns or Spurs make it. Now, will YOU please STFU? You bring absolutely nothing to the basketball discussions, just stupidity and hate.
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Battle 4 Texas
Prediction: Winner - ToNe Loser - 7.........good luck to u both ;)
The pb is that Tone spends more time to hate Kobe and the Lakers than dealing with his favorite team
u guys are so twisted in the head. i think you honestly believe there are only two types of people....Laker fans, and people who hate the Lakers lol. You dont understand that there are A. Laker fans, B. People who hate the Lakers, and C. (the largest group), people who dont give a shit about them. Just because someone gives negative criticism about the Lakers, doesnt mean they hate them. No more then positive feedback means your dickriding. But you guys dont see that. You think im a hater for saying anything negative, but dont consider yourselves dickriders for saying NOTHING negative. You team has positives AND negatives. Kobe has positives AND negatives. You guys are so obsessed that you NEVER mention the negatives....so SOMEbody has to. How gay would this board be, if it was just 30 Laker fans talking about how much they love Kobe. Would u really like that shit?
As for my team, my team is good. I know they are good, and so does everyone else. Right now i still consider Detroit the best team in the league. I believe by playoff time we can be the best, since we usually go through this same run toward playoff time. But i dont need to come on here and keep tellin yall how good they are, cus their play does that for them. You guys are insecure about your team, so you have to keep pumpin em up as much as possible. Ive never been one to come on here and talk shit about how great my team is, cus it only makes u look stupid. Check back through the pages. I didnt even come on here talkin all kinds of shit when they won the championship unless i was respondin to yall talkin shit...whats the point? I leave that to u guys when u get a win.
LOL. People can discuss their teams without "pumpin em up"....You say we only talk about positives. WTF? Show me...I always talk about what the Lakers need to do to improve. Show me where you've said positive things about Kobe and the Lakers...And I dont mean "Oh, yea, Kobe is a good scorer, but...", I mean show me where you've given REAL props, where you haven't entered a Laker thread to do nothing but disagree with props given...PeACe
i set up that thread after after they lost to the Jazz, when Kobe was suspended and said how well they played. That they needed to keep going with the better ball movement, even when Kobe returned. ill give it to u, that occasionally youll come up with shit they need to improve on. in your case, maybe i should have said you only talk about KOBES positives. And yeah, u can discuss your team without pumpin em up. But a discussion is a two way conversation. Not just "we're so great, Kobe...i love him so much, we beat ourselves cus we're really better then the teams we lose to...", etc. I guarentee you....if u guys decreased the amount of "dickriding" u do, ud see a decrease in the amount of "hating".
LMAO@You pointing out when you said they played well without Kobe, like that's something other than a subliminal shot at him. I also said Kobe should improve his 3 point shot and since then he has. He probably should also shoot less three's and take it to the rim more. Lately he's been passing WAY too much, he needs to attack offensively earlier in the game...How's that? There is no dickriding, you fuck, it's just Laker fans discussing their team/players...Then you always have to jump in and say some dumb shit like "Kobe is all about stats" "Kobe fakes injuries", etc...Just lay back and stop with that shit...If you wanna be taken seriously don't come off as someone who's so passionately hateful towards one team/player so damn much...PeACe
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Fuckin Knicks shuda won again. i was about to have a celebration caus it seems to happen only once a month, but the fuckers lost the game after bein up for the second game in a row. they've played good ball during the last 2 games but they cant close it out...the garden was justified with the fuckin Boo they gave the Knicks after Gordon, Heinrich, & Deng brought the Bulls back to win.
In other NBA news, the Kings are tied with the Jazz in 9th place in the West but im hopin the Rockets can find a way to make the playoffs altho their schedule is tough. Especially with T-Mac goin thru his fiancee's mother passin away and everything that goes with that.
Clips losin to the Jazz right now, they're 1-32 in the Delta Center..but at least they got Corey back from injury.
Phoenix (my favorites to win the West) almost lose to the Magic, but the Matrix & MVP pull it out to win their 9th straight.
Did i miss anything?
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Jazz just beat the Clippers...Real Entertaining Game overall...the last couple minutes were SICK, the Clips came back and almost won the game wen Cassell launched a 3 from full court with a couple seconds left that hit the front rim :o
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Did anyone see AI cross the living daylights outta Antonio Daniels?
Good god!
http://nba-boss.streamos.com/wmedia/url/web.lightningcast.net/servlets/getplaylist?ver=2.0&nwid=14523&content=streamos:/nba/nbacom/pod/pod_060303.asf&altcontent=streamos2:/nba/nbacom/pod/pod_060303.asf&brand=&level=NBA.com:ros&uid=77876909960b5ee24a3fd6ba07edffee&resp=ASX&format=Video-Windows-300-320x240&audit=param&mswmext=.asx&siteid=nbacom&attr=[country,US]
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Did anyone see AI cross the living daylights outta Antonio Daniels?
Good god!
http://nba-boss.streamos.com/wmedia/url/web.lightningcast.net/servlets/getplaylist?ver=2.0&nwid=14523&content=streamos:/nba/nbacom/pod/pod_060303.asf&altcontent=streamos2:/nba/nbacom/pod/pod_060303.asf&brand=&level=NBA.com:ros&uid=77876909960b5ee24a3fd6ba07edffee&resp=ASX&format=Video-Windows-300-320x240&audit=param&mswmext=.asx&siteid=nbacom&attr=[country,US]
i saw that, that was crazy shiznit; the philly bench exploded after that
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ouwwww that was TUFFF, i think i herd somethin break :-[....that kid AI moves like a cat, remember wen he crossed up jordan?
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3619648574251470370&q=jordan+iverson
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NY finaaalllllly wins a fuckin game. :yikes: i wish i cuda saw this on tv live but im gna hafta wait for the re-run later tonite. Knicks have really stepped their game up from shitass to alrite these past couple games. this 5 guard thing mite just work out :monkey:
props 2 eddy curry for havin a beast game....only if he cud do it more consistantly :grumpy:
Q. Rich finally gettin his act together too :)
Jalen Rose 30 mins 6-12 FG, 4-4 3PT...19 points 8)
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^^^Yea, I watched the last 2 Knick games and I can tell they're finally steppin it up and playin like they actually wanna win...Good shit.
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I'm starting to feel optimistic, instead of playing like bums, the Knicks have put some effort into their play. it's real satisfying to see they aren't getting blown out by 20+.....Re-run's on, they try to fit the whole game into 60 mins so they skip a lot of the game, it just went from the mid of the 1st quarter, to the start of the 2nd, to a couple mins left in the half within a span on 5 minutes LOL....Does any1 else think Walt Frazier's got a weird ass voice? it kinda bugs me >:(
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great fuckin game goin on rite now between the Suns and the Mavs...i tuned in at halftime caus i woke up late, but i saw the Suns down by double digits and i thought dammn this Mavs team is 4real..but i knew the Suns wud make a push in the 2nd half...i didnt know they wud take the lead with a couple minutes left in the game...this game is truely entertaining, im hopin for OT caus i dont want it to end..
ayo 7, whats good with the Mavs lettin the Suns get back in it?
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well them mavs just being the mavs; a good, yet kind of sloppy team. dirk kind of disappeared after the 3rd quarter, that didnt really help obviously. nash is crazy. dude had some random moves I couldnt even think of.
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Nash had 2 wild circus layups on DIRK, the 2nd one was INSANE caus it was a backwards left handed bank in the air.
This game in my honest opinion really solidifies Nash as the MVP. he had such a great game along with Diaw, Matrix, & Barbosa. Just an incredible performance by the Suns. It's a shame the Mavs cudnt pull this one out caus they had a real good game as well ESPECIALLY marquis daniels...hes a monster!
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Diaw is the shit 8)
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Diaw is good, he can play all positions...The thing I've been wondering though is why is he listed exclusively as a guard on NBA.com when he's the starting center on his team?...LOL. At least if they had him under G-F, but he's been having problems with his NBA.com bio all year...
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Diaw is good, he can play all positions...The thing I've been wondering though is why is he listed exclusively as a guard on NBA.com when he's the starting center on his team?...LOL. At least if they had him under G-F, but he's been having problems with his NBA.com bio all year...
His natural (if I can say that) position is small forward , I just like his game . He just needs to keep working on his shoot and he gonna become a very interesting player. He just one of these rare players that can do everything on a B-Ball court 8)
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Diaw is good, he can play all positions...The thing I've been wondering though is why is he listed exclusively as a guard on NBA.com when he's the starting center on his team?...LOL. At least if they had him under G-F, but he's been having problems with his NBA.com bio all year...
His natural (if I can say that) position is small forward , I just like his game . He just needs to keep working on his shoot and he gonna become a very interesting player. He just one of these rare players that can do everything on a B-Ball court 8)
The scary thing is that his natural position is SG, he just looks so comfortable with the other positions that you'd think those were his natural positions...Then again, Phoenix is the perfect system for him to play in, he's currently looking as good as he can...PeACe
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Yep, it's amazing that a SF/SG can play center easily, I think he's a good choice to get the MOP trophy
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Yep, it's amazing that a SF/SG can play center easily, I think he's a good choice to get the MOP trophy
Yea...I was really hoping for Smush or Kwame to get it this year...Smush can probably be a candidate, but Kwame isn't really in the runnings...Diaw DEFINITELY is...
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wcsoldier can be proud of his french man, dude is one of the most versatile players in the NBA and starter on a pretty gangsta team too.. phoenix being where they are without amare is nuts
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wcsoldier can be proud of his french man, dude is one of the most versatile players in the NBA and starter on a pretty gangsta team too.. phoenix being where they are without amare is nuts
yep I proud he's french ;D. Seriously I just like these all around players and Diaw is one my non LaL favorite players. Plus he's a very humble dude unlike Parker who I'm not into that much. Don't get me wrong Parker has 2 rings, plays his best season and propz to him but I'm not a big fan. Plus I may surprise some of you but I think Diaw potential is WAY superior to T.P one
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Battle 4 Texas
Prediction: Winner - ToNe Loser - 7.........good luck to u both ;)
The pb is that Tone spends more time to hate Kobe and the Lakers than dealing with his favorite team
u guys are so twisted in the head. i think you honestly believe there are only two types of people....Laker fans, and people who hate the Lakers lol. You dont understand that there are A. Laker fans, B. People who hate the Lakers, and C. (the largest group), people who dont give a shit about them. Just because someone gives negative criticism about the Lakers, doesnt mean they hate them. No more then positive feedback means your dickriding. But you guys dont see that. You think im a hater for saying anything negative, but dont consider yourselves dickriders for saying NOTHING negative. You team has positives AND negatives. Kobe has positives AND negatives. You guys are so obsessed that you NEVER mention the negatives....so SOMEbody has to. How gay would this board be, if it was just 30 Laker fans talking about how much they love Kobe. Would u really like that shit?
As for my team, my team is good. I know they are good, and so does everyone else. Right now i still consider Detroit the best team in the league. I believe by playoff time we can be the best, since we usually go through this same run toward playoff time. But i dont need to come on here and keep tellin yall how good they are, cus their play does that for them. You guys are insecure about your team, so you have to keep pumpin em up as much as possible. Ive never been one to come on here and talk shit about how great my team is, cus it only makes u look stupid. Check back through the pages. I didnt even come on here talkin all kinds of shit when they won the championship unless i was respondin to yall talkin shit...whats the point? I leave that to u guys when u get a win.
LOL. People can discuss their teams without "pumpin em up"....You say we only talk about positives. WTF? Show me...I always talk about what the Lakers need to do to improve. Show me where you've said positive things about Kobe and the Lakers...And I dont mean "Oh, yea, Kobe is a good scorer, but...", I mean show me where you've given REAL props, where you haven't entered a Laker thread to do nothing but disagree with props given...PeACe
i set up that thread after after they lost to the Jazz, when Kobe was suspended and said how well they played. That they needed to keep going with the better ball movement, even when Kobe returned. ill give it to u, that occasionally youll come up with shit they need to improve on. in your case, maybe i should have said you only talk about KOBES positives. And yeah, u can discuss your team without pumpin em up. But a discussion is a two way conversation. Not just "we're so great, Kobe...i love him so much, we beat ourselves cus we're really better then the teams we lose to...", etc. I guarentee you....if u guys decreased the amount of "dickriding" u do, ud see a decrease in the amount of "hating".
LMAO@You pointing out when you said they played well without Kobe, like that's something other than a subliminal shot at him. I also said Kobe should improve his 3 point shot and since then he has. He probably should also shoot less three's and take it to the rim more. Lately he's been passing WAY too much, he needs to attack offensively earlier in the game...How's that? There is no dickriding, you fuck, it's just Laker fans discussing their team/players...Then you always have to jump in and say some dumb shit like "Kobe is all about stats" "Kobe fakes injuries", etc...Just lay back and stop with that shit...If you wanna be taken seriously don't come off as someone who's so passionately hateful towards one team/player so damn much...PeACe
me sayin they played well without him wasnt a shot at HIM. I was saying that when he's on the floor the other guys dont have the confidence to take the game in their hands when needed. And him being out fo a couple games would MAKE them step up. And i was saying if they carried that with them till when he came back theyd be better for it.
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Battle 4 Texas
Prediction: Winner - ToNe Loser - 7.........good luck to u both ;)
The pb is that Tone spends more time to hate Kobe and the Lakers than dealing with his favorite team
u guys are so twisted in the head. i think you honestly believe there are only two types of people....Laker fans, and people who hate the Lakers lol. You dont understand that there are A. Laker fans, B. People who hate the Lakers, and C. (the largest group), people who dont give a shit about them. Just because someone gives negative criticism about the Lakers, doesnt mean they hate them. No more then positive feedback means your dickriding. But you guys dont see that. You think im a hater for saying anything negative, but dont consider yourselves dickriders for saying NOTHING negative. You team has positives AND negatives. Kobe has positives AND negatives. You guys are so obsessed that you NEVER mention the negatives....so SOMEbody has to. How gay would this board be, if it was just 30 Laker fans talking about how much they love Kobe. Would u really like that shit?
As for my team, my team is good. I know they are good, and so does everyone else. Right now i still consider Detroit the best team in the league. I believe by playoff time we can be the best, since we usually go through this same run toward playoff time. But i dont need to come on here and keep tellin yall how good they are, cus their play does that for them. You guys are insecure about your team, so you have to keep pumpin em up as much as possible. Ive never been one to come on here and talk shit about how great my team is, cus it only makes u look stupid. Check back through the pages. I didnt even come on here talkin all kinds of shit when they won the championship unless i was respondin to yall talkin shit...whats the point? I leave that to u guys when u get a win.
LOL. People can discuss their teams without "pumpin em up"....You say we only talk about positives. WTF? Show me...I always talk about what the Lakers need to do to improve. Show me where you've said positive things about Kobe and the Lakers...And I dont mean "Oh, yea, Kobe is a good scorer, but...", I mean show me where you've given REAL props, where you haven't entered a Laker thread to do nothing but disagree with props given...PeACe
i set up that thread after after they lost to the Jazz, when Kobe was suspended and said how well they played. That they needed to keep going with the better ball movement, even when Kobe returned. ill give it to u, that occasionally youll come up with shit they need to improve on. in your case, maybe i should have said you only talk about KOBES positives. And yeah, u can discuss your team without pumpin em up. But a discussion is a two way conversation. Not just "we're so great, Kobe...i love him so much, we beat ourselves cus we're really better then the teams we lose to...", etc. I guarentee you....if u guys decreased the amount of "dickriding" u do, ud see a decrease in the amount of "hating".
LMAO@You pointing out when you said they played well without Kobe, like that's something other than a subliminal shot at him. I also said Kobe should improve his 3 point shot and since then he has. He probably should also shoot less three's and take it to the rim more. Lately he's been passing WAY too much, he needs to attack offensively earlier in the game...How's that? There is no dickriding, you fuck, it's just Laker fans discussing their team/players...Then you always have to jump in and say some dumb shit like "Kobe is all about stats" "Kobe fakes injuries", etc...Just lay back and stop with that shit...If you wanna be taken seriously don't come off as someone who's so passionately hateful towards one team/player so damn much...PeACe
me sayin they played well without him wasnt a shot at HIM. I was saying that when he's on the floor the other guys dont have the confidence to take the game in their hands when needed. And him being out fo a couple games would MAKE them step up. And i was saying if they carried that with them till when he came back theyd be better for it.
True Story
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Knicks Win Again :cheers:
after an outstanding game against the Bucks the other night, the Knicks beat the Pacers 107-92
7 players score in double figures (j. rose, m. rose, curry, marbury, francis, crawford, butler)
Ball movement tonight was incredible, Knicks really showing life on the court, defense has stepped up, and the comradery is surprising
after a disappointing 1st quarter (12 points vs. Indiana's 18) they put up 3 STRONG quarters.
3pt shooting was insane for a second night in a row....the way the knicks are playing, anything is possible (except makin the playoffs :()
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Knicks might not have a chance to make the cut, but the Rockets sure do!! ;D
w/o T-Mac playin caus of the sore back :-\, the Rockets still manage to beat the Wolves
Only 3 games back from the 8th spot..hopefully T-Mac will return sooner than later caus the schedule's only gonna get harder
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Houston aint makin' the playoffs, mark my words...If anyone makes it out of the teams who aren't in, it's Sacramento. Props to the Knicks as well, finally bringing forth some competition with their talent.
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Sacramento does have the best chance of makin the playoffs since their schedule is easier than the Rockets/Jazz, but that doesn't mean im gonna give up on them just yet. I really hope T-Mac's back gets better, its really an ongoing problem. i dont kno if he'll ever be able to recover 100%, it just seems as if every other week he's comin out early caus of the back. its a real fuckin shame becaus he's one of the best in the league and you can never rule out the Rockets when he's on the court at the end of the game. Yao is a monsssssssster, he's playing the best year of his career so far without a doubt, it's just a tragedy that T-Mac's got a bad back. but anyway, im hopin for the best, im stayin optimistic, but realistic at the same time. Rockets prob wont make the playoffs, but next week is gonna be the REAL test. a trip to San Antonio on Sunday, followed by home games against the Nets, Mavericks and Spurs again.
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Damn, Mavs are so damn good, even with 4 important players out they kick some serious ass. Dirk for MVP.
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Avery Johnson 66-16 in the regular season. Win PCT. .805 :o :o :o
i believe that's the best coaching record for the first 82 regular season games
props is due to avery 4 gettin the mavs to play some D becaus its been well known for years that if they could only step their defense up, they would be championship contenders.
dirk's got some outstanding stats. 26ppg 48fg% 41% 3pt 89%ft 9rpg 3apg 1bpg
but i still got Nash as MVP ....20ppg 50%fg 42% 3pt 92%ft 4 rpg 11 apg 1spg plus he's doin it all without Amare, and has made players like Barbosa & Diaw shine
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Id give it to Nash if he didnt already get it last season. 2 years in a row is just not right (for Nash) imo.
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lol i just hope they dont give it to chauncey, i like him and all but he doesnt really deserve it caus that whole team is beast.
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lol i just hope they dont give it to chauncey, i like him and all but he doesnt really deserve it caus that whole team is beast.
I say the same thing about Nash...Nash is in a system where Luke Ridnour would be an MVP candidate had he been the starting point guard.
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lol i just hope they dont give it to chauncey, i like him and all but he doesnt really deserve it caus that whole team is beast.
I say the same thing about Nash...Nash is in a system where Luke Ridnour would be an MVP candidate had he been the starting point guard.
so you're implying ridnour would on Nash's level if he were to play for Phoenix. i disagree.
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lol i just hope they dont give it to chauncey, i like him and all but he doesnt really deserve it caus that whole team is beast.
I say the same thing about Nash...Nash is in a system where Luke Ridnour would be an MVP candidate had he been the starting point guard.
so you're implying ridnour would on Nash's level if he were to play for Phoenix. i disagree.
I'm saying that the system they got going down in Phoenix is the main reason for their sucess. Of course it doesn't hurt to have Steve Nash, but the system makes him look 3X better...Luke Ridnour could possibly play that run-and-gun offense close to or just as well, he's that type of point guard...Did anyone even think anything of him before he arived to Phoenix besides that he was Dirk Nowitzki's little side-kick? Did anyone even dare to mention him in MVP talks before?...Do you honestly mean to tell me that Nash is a better player than Kobe? LOLLL. Put Nash on these Lakers instead of Kobe, and he doesn't have SHIT!...Steve Nash is not the MVP...PeACe
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Nash is the only player since Magic Johnson to average 19+ PPG and 11 assists........MVP no doubt
Without Joe Johnson and Amare in the line-up, I thought the Suns would be nowhere close to as good as they were last season, and Nash just stepped it up even more than he did last year. And the most impressive thing is what he's done for guys like Boris Diaw and Barbosa ect who seemed to be average players, but now, alongside Nash have looked like great players this season. A player like Kobe Bryant isnt going to make Barbosa or Boris Diaw any better than they are. He hasnt done shit for a guy like Kwame Brown. I bet if Nash played alongside Kwame hes be averaging at least 5 more PPG, and I could go on and on but I think Ill stop there with Kwame before my Karma goes down 150 more :P
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Nash is the only player since Magic Johnson to average 19+ PPG and 11 assists........MVP no doubt
Without Joe Johnson and Amare in the line-up, I thought the Suns would be nowhere close to as good as they were last season, and Nash just stepped it up even more than he did last year. And the most impressive thing is what he's done for guys like Boris Diaw and Barbosa ect who seemed to be average players, but now, alongside Nash have looked like great players this season. A player like Kobe Bryant isnt going to make Barbosa or Boris Diaw any better than they are. He hasnt done shit for a guy like Kwame Brown. I bet if Nash played alongside Kwame hes be averaging at least 5 more PPG, and I could go on and on but I think Ill stop there with Kwame before my Karma goes down 150 more :P
LMAO. Kwame is a completely different player than Diaw and Barbosa, they know how to create shots for themselves off the dribble, they have both improved this season, but it's not Steve Nash that's making them look good, once again, it's the SYSTEM they're playing in...Look how much better Shaq looked with Kobe than with Wade...Kobe gives Kwame dimes that he mishandles all the time...Kwame isn't a major part of our offense because we have him assigned as a defense-first type player...Kwame wouldn't handle all those hot passes that Steve Nash throws...It's the system, man, don't be giving Nash all the credit...PeACe
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So what about Nash being the only player since Magic to put up those numbers? Are you gona tell me Magic wasnt deserving of his MVP trophy?
Or maybe you think it was just the system Magic was playing in that made him put up those numbers ::) Dummy, Magic MADE that fucking system, just like Nash is making the system in Pheonix.......Get off Kobe nuts man NASH IS THE REAL MVP
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So what about Nash being the only player since Magic to put up those numbers? Are you gona tell me Magic wasnt deserving of his MVP trophy?
Or maybe you think it was just the system Magic was playing in that made him put up those numbers ::) Dummy, Magic MADE that fucking system, just like Nash is making the system in Pheonix.......Get off Kobe nuts man NASH IS THE REAL MVP
LMFAO. Stop comparing Nash to Magic, smart guy, they are on two COMPLETELY different levels. When Nash stacks up on championships with this run-and-gun bullshit, that's when you can compare. The numbers don't mean shit, look at Tony Parker's numbers, his percentage is higher than Magic's ever was...Does that mean shit? No...Stats don't mean shit, Magic was a true winner, a champion at heart, he was AMAZING...Nash is good, but like I said, A LOT OF POINT GUARDS WOULD AVERAGE 10+ ASSISTS IN THAT SYSTEM...And now that Amare is out, Nash is basically the primary offense on that team...DONT EVER COMPARE MAGIC TO NASH AGAIN. Magic would average 25+ points and 17 assists in Phoenix's current system... ::)
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Why does Pheonix always lose when Nash is out?
NASH IS THE FUCKING SYSTEM.
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Dirk's little side kick? 48%fg 42% 3pt 90% ft 3 rpg 8 apg 16 ppg from 2000-2004
nash deserves more respect than "dirks little side kick"
i'd LOVE to see luke ridnour play for the suns instead of nash, there's no way the suns would be in 2nd place in the West w/o Amare if Luke ridnour was running the show. they would be in the mix of things, but nowhere as great as they are now. luke wouldnt have the same effect on guys like boris diaw & leon barbosa as Nash would and you know that. don't be mad at nash becaus hes getting more recognition than Kobe becaus at the end of the day the suns are #2 and the lakers are #8. idk why ur gettin mad becaus Nash is getting the credit he deserves, the suns wouldnt be in the same place they would be if luke was running the show. and if you say thats bullshit, then you're bullshit
i dont even know why im arguing this, you're mad becaus nash is getting more attention than kobe. Nash is getting credit becaus his team is in the 2 spot without one of their most important players. and that's becaus of nash.
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with all this drama before the game about marbury wanting to be starbury.....
for first time all season i was on my feet for the knicks. the last 2 minutes in the first OT were the greatest minutes i've seen all season. INCREDIBLE dunks by butler, woods, crawford, lee that should all make sportscenter (altho there were many exceptional dunks all around the league tnite)
backdoor plays were brilliant and the bench was out of this world. they played from the 4th quarter on thru the 2nd OT. ANY NBA fan would love to watch the end of this game.
from the 4th quarter on, woods butler crawford lee & nasty nate rocked MSG for the first time in a long time. i've never seen so much passion from the players man, its wat NY basketball should be. these 5 played better than the starting 5 in crunch time....can any1 tell me how I can download the end of the game caus i usually see parts of the Laker games up for DL in that topic. this was the best game i've seen all season long :)
this young knick lineup (minus frye) made larry do somethin i havnt seen all season
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If the Mavs finish 1st of the Conf, give it to Dirk .... Kobe could win it if we finished 5th or 6 th but they wouldn't give him (I don't say he doesn't deserve it) as of our current standing. About Nash give him credit but like Nik said , the system is a HUGE part of it. Of course, Nash makes other players better but the fact Diaw has 7 rdbs and 6 Assists a game has nothing to do with Nash, it's the system and his skills. This run and gun type of system allows Barbosa, Jones, Bell... to score a lot. If Suns played a Spurs type of game, these players wouldn't score as much as now, with Nash as a pt guard or not.
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Why does Pheonix always lose when Nash is out?
NASH IS THE FUCKING SYSTEM.
Because without Nash they have no point guard to run that system...LOL. Nash is not the fucking system, run-and-gun is the fuckin' system...You have no idea what you're talking about...Nash runs the court, players get open, Nash feeds them for a wide-open dunk; assist...That's their game. It's KNOWN not to be succesful against a half-court offense in the playoffs...Not saying Nash isn't a good player, it's just that he's simply not the best player in the league...Like I said, put Nash on the Lakers instead of Kobe...They'd be a sub-.500 team, I can bet anything on that...Nash is good, but it takes a lot of athletic players around him in a great system for him to look excellent rather than simply good...It's almost the same story with Billups. That's why I say, Brand or Kobe, maybe even Dirk...End of story.
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Dirk's little side kick? 48%fg 42% 3pt 90% ft 3 rpg 8 apg 16 ppg from 2000-2004
nash deserves more respect than "dirks little side kick"
i'd LOVE to see luke ridnour play for the suns instead of nash, there's no way the suns would be in 2nd place in the West w/o Amare if Luke ridnour was running the show. they would be in the mix of things, but nowhere as great as they are now. luke wouldnt have the same effect on guys like boris diaw & leon barbosa as Nash would and you know that. don't be mad at nash becaus hes getting more recognition than Kobe becaus at the end of the day the suns are #2 and the lakers are #8. idk why ur gettin mad becaus Nash is getting the credit he deserves, the suns wouldnt be in the same place they would be if luke was running the show. and if you say thats bullshit, then you're bullshit
i dont even know why im arguing this, you're mad becaus nash is getting more attention than kobe. Nash is getting credit becaus his team is in the 2 spot without one of their most important players. and that's becaus of nash.
LOL! Lamar Odom has better stats than the ones you just posted for pre-Suns Nash...I'm not mad whatsoever, dunno where that came from. Nash was never known as a great player until he was in the system. Phoenix is running on muthafuckaz all day long, they'd do the same thing with Luke Ridnour feeding an open Shawn Marion and Boris Diaw all game long...Maybe they wouldn't be in the 2 spot, but they'd still be up there, they'd still have that system which would lead them to wins...Just think about it. Did anyone even DARE mention Nash in MVP talks before he came into the Suns system? HELLLLL NO. He was barely even selected for all-star. Nash is good, not MVP. If anything, you gotta give the whole team MVP, because they're all doing their parts...PeACe
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obviously the sun's system complements Nash's play, as do numerous systems that are successful. nash was the perfect pick-up for the suns becaus that's how they play. and that's why they're contenders for the title. i dont know why i hafta defend nash on his MVP status becaus he deserves it. obviously nash wouldnt make the lakers as good as kobe becaus he wouldnt be as effective in the triangle as he is in the run and gun. im glad we could agree to disagree on who should be MVP becaus i dont want this thread to turn into another pissing contest.
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Let's talk playoffs boys becaus it's coming up relatively soon. Post your predictions for the playoff seeds
1. Spurs 1. Pistons
2. Phoenix 2. Heat
3. Denver 3. Nets
4. Dallas 4. Cavaliers
5. Clippers 5. Pacers
6. Grizzlies 6. Wizards
7. Kings 7. 76ers
8. Lakers 8. Bucks
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I dunno how likely it is, but I'm hopin' for the playoffs (in the west) to look something like this...
1 San Antonio
8 Memphis
.... 1 San Antonio
7 Sacramento
2 Phoenix
7 Sacramento
.... 1 San Antonio LAKERS ADVANCE!
6 Lakers
3 Denver
6 Lakers
.... 6 Lakers
5 Clippers
4 Dallas
5 Clippers
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I dunno how likely it is, but I'm hopin' for the playoffs (in the west) to look something like this...
1 San Antonio
8 Memphis
.... 1 San Antonio
7 Sacramento
2 Phoenix
7 Sacramento
.... 1 San Antonio LAKERS ADVANCE!
6 Lakers
3 Denver
6 Lakers
.... 6 Lakers
5 Clippers
4 Dallas
5 Clippers
LOL. Yeah that would be nice.
Assuming the 8 you showed make the playoffs in that order I think it'll look something like this
1 San Antonio
8 Memphis
.... 1 San Antonio
7 Phoenix
2 Phoenix
7 Sacramento
.... 1 San Antonio SPURS ADVANCE!
6 Dallas
3 Denver
6 Lakers
.... 6 Lakers
5 Dallas*
4 Dallas
5 Clippers
*Dallas wins series because of bias refs.
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*Dallas wins series because of bias refs.
:D +1
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NO WAY Memphis finished 8 th , outside an injury for Gasol.... they have the easiest schedule and from far. With our inconsistency, I'd say 7th or 8th, too many wack losses to finish 6th (especially 2 home games were given to the Grizzlies as a result they have the tie-breaker). Now about the matchups, Dallas would be a lot better for us, no way we could beat the Spurs in a 7 games serie (maybe in the 5 games old system). Against the Suns if we could defend like we did in Dec-Jan , we have a chance.....
This how I see (not what I expect) the playoffs draw
1.SA 4-2 SA 4-1 SA
8.LA SAC
2. Phoenix 3-4 Dallas 3-4
7. Sac
3. Denver2-4 Memphis 1-4 Dallas
6. Memphis Dallas
4. Dallas 4-1
5. LAC
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In the East, no surprise Detroit vs Miami, 4-2 for Detroit and a 4th NBA title with a 4-2 win against Mavs 8)
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1 San Antonio
8 Lakers
.... 1 San Antonio
4 Dallas
4 Dallas
5 Clippers
.... 1 San Antonio Spurs advance :/!
2 Phoenix
3 Denver
6 Sacramento
.... 6 Sacramento
2 Phoenix
2 Phoenix
7 Memphis
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lol i just hope they dont give it to chauncey, i like him and all but he doesnt really deserve it caus that whole team is beast.
I say the same thing about Nash...Nash is in a system where Luke Ridnour would be an MVP candidate had he been the starting point guard.
please shut the fuck up
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^^LMAO...Take that retard out your sig.
PS. Those weren't my predictions, it's a possibility I was hoping for.
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^^LMAO...Take that retard out your sig.
PS. Those weren't my predictions, it's a possibility I was hoping for.
lol,i guarantee you were on his nuts til he went to Sacto,fuckin groupie lol
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^^ LOL @ this QUEENS fan! go choke on a dick just like the QUENNS choke in gm 7 2002 WCF..you guys are a joke!
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^^ LOL @ this QUEENS fan! go choke on a dick just like the QUENNS choke in gm 7 2002 WCF..you guys are a joke!
lol your a sad mother fucker..keep dissin me fool maybe you'll get my karma as low as you and NIK's.
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^^LMAO...Take that retard out your sig.
PS. Those weren't my predictions, it's a possibility I was hoping for.
lol,i guarantee you were on his nuts til he went to Sacto,fuckin groupie lol
Never liked Artest...Stated it from way before the Sacramento trade... :-*
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Let's Go Knicks! :raisetheroof:
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fuckin knicks :-\
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zo mourning is an incredible story aint he dude had 8 blocks last night, and is 2nd inthe NBA at Blocks per game with only 20 mpg off the bench.....
miami needs to pick it up they're playing lazy bball always very sluggish at the beginning of games, they love coming from behind taking w's...
Dywane Wade always seems to pick up his game in the 2nd half took over the game in the 3rd quarter, when shaq was in foul trouble... you gotta love that boys game
had my doubts about this team couple of months ago, wondering if they were as good or any good as last years im still not sold because of eddie jones (posey's done a good job in replacing him hes a good defender) but they did bring in some playmakers in jason williams, antoine walker from free agency that are doing a nice job especially williams as an off gaurd/point guard
we'll see how they do against the Pistons on Wed should be a great game between the top 2 powerhouses in the east
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i think the heat are on auto-pilot til the playoffs start. in their minds, there's no need to prove anything, it's known that they are championship contendors. i like posey alot, he's $$$ from the 3pt, defends well, and he can run with J Williams in the transition. I've never been a big fan of antoine walker, idk why, i jus think he's a bit selfish. wade is an incredible player, he's got a lot of talent, the only minus to his game is the 3pt shot, but nobody's perfect. he really impressed me in his rookie year when he took the heat to the playoffs and almost hit the conference finals. for a rookie to have an impact on that team as much as he did shows how much he can do for himself and his teammates.
its still hard 4 me to see the heat beating the pistons but the next game b/w the two will definately be sickkkkk
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Pistons>>Heat
In fact, I'd LOVE for the Lakers to somehow make it to the finals and play the Heat. I think we'd have a GREAT chance...PeACe
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LMAO, good one
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LOLLL. Phil Jackson >>>>>>>> Larry Brown
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awesome pic
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LMAO!
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LMAO, good one
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hahahahaha 37 different lineups :grumpy:
larry brown has said himself if u want to put all the blame on him, go ahead. you could tell by all the after-game interviews that he knows he hasnt been successful. this guy seems incredibly depressed, i know larry brown isn't mr. smiley but you could tell he's absolutely disappointed. he has said himself MILLIONS of times that he was put there to win, and that hasn't been the case. it's only the 1st year, some players dont give a fuck about his system which has proven successful in the past, he's got 2000 guards that want to be stars instead of giving into the system. marbury coming home to NY hasnt worked and larry coming home to NY hasnt worked either....oh i know what we need. SEBASTIAN TELFAIR!!! it all makes sense now....... another NY native will be just wat we need. 3rd time's the charm!!!! ;D
*remembers channing frye was born in white plains* :'( :'( :'(
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Blame on Isiah Thomas and his stupid moves. He's probably on crack, man. He can't be that dumb!
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Blame on Isiah Thomas and his stupid moves. He's probably on crack, man. He can't be that dumb!
I would much rather blame it on Larry Brown, Isaiah has actually compiled a nice roster with loads of talent, someone just isn't getting 'em to work correctly. If anything, Isaiah's biggest flaw is that he spends wayy too much money to get what he wants, but the thing is, Knicks should be wayy better than what their record shows for...
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Blame on Isiah Thomas and his stupid moves. He's probably on crack, man. He can't be that dumb!
I would much rather blame it on Larry Brown, Isaiah has actually compiled a nice roster with loads of talent, someone just isn't getting 'em to work correctly. If anything, Isaiah's biggest flaw is that he spends wayy too much money to get what he wants, but the thing is, Knicks should be wayy better than what their record shows for...
The problem is that every guy on that team needs the ball in their hands to be successfull. Their just isn't enough shots to go around.
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Blame on Isiah Thomas and his stupid moves. He's probably on crack, man. He can't be that dumb!
I would much rather blame it on Larry Brown, Isaiah has actually compiled a nice roster with loads of talent, someone just isn't getting 'em to work correctly. If anything, Isaiah's biggest flaw is that he spends wayy too much money to get what he wants, but the thing is, Knicks should be wayy better than what their record shows for...
The problem is that every guy on that team needs the ball in their hands to be successfull. Their just isn't enough shots to go around.
That's not true...They can co-exist, it can be done...Larry Brown is just out of his mind...PeACe
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Blame on Isiah Thomas and his stupid moves. He's probably on crack, man. He can't be that dumb!
I would much rather blame it on Larry Brown, Isaiah has actually compiled a nice roster with loads of talent, someone just isn't getting 'em to work correctly. If anything, Isaiah's biggest flaw is that he spends wayy too much money to get what he wants, but the thing is, Knicks should be wayy better than what their record shows for...
The problem is that every guy on that team needs the ball in their hands to be successfull. Their just isn't enough shots to go around.
That's not true...They can co-exist, it can be done...Larry Brown is just out of his mind...PeACe
Marbury is a scoring point guard who has a tendency to dominate the ball. along with francis & nate. Brown wants his point guards to keep the ball moving. the players have given up on brown's system. you can blame it on larry,you can blame it on the players, you can blame it on isiaih or the organization all together. but don't say larry brown is out of his mind bcaus he's one of the greatest coaches of all time.
oh wait, you're right, larry brown is out of his mind to think he could make his "passing system" work with a bunch of ball-hogs.
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Blame on Isiah Thomas and his stupid moves. He's probably on crack, man. He can't be that dumb!
I would much rather blame it on Larry Brown, Isaiah has actually compiled a nice roster with loads of talent, someone just isn't getting 'em to work correctly. If anything, Isaiah's biggest flaw is that he spends wayy too much money to get what he wants, but the thing is, Knicks should be wayy better than what their record shows for...
The problem is that every guy on that team needs the ball in their hands to be successfull. Their just isn't enough shots to go around.
That's not true...They can co-exist, it can be done...Larry Brown is just out of his mind...PeACe
Marbury is a scoring point guard who has a tendency to dominate the ball. along with francis & nate. Brown wants his point guards to keep the ball moving. the players have given up on brown's system. you can blame it on larry,you can blame it on the players, you can blame it on isiaih or the organization all together. but don't say larry brown is out of his mind bcaus he's one of the greatest coaches of all time.
oh wait, you're right, larry brown is out of his mind to think he could make his "passing system" work with a bunch of ball-hogs.
Brown IS out of his mind...He's obviously tryna run the wrong system. They need a fatsbreak run-n-gun system. Marbury and Francis can easily work together under the right coach, they have the talent it takes. Nate can come off the bench when Marbury or Francis need a rest. It's not that hard to figure out...They have a good team here, they probably need a coach like Don Nelson...PeACe
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And from what I remember, Marbury has always been a good passer as well...Hell, his career average for assists is 8.1. Compare that to Iverson's 6.1...Marbury is not the ball-hog everyone has made him out to be, he was a top-notch point guard before Larry Brown came along...Who knows, maybe Brown is taking his time and the results will come later, but Marbury is way too good to be playing the way he has...PeACe
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Blame on Isiah Thomas and his stupid moves. He's probably on crack, man. He can't be that dumb!
I would much rather blame it on Larry Brown, Isaiah has actually compiled a nice roster with loads of talent, someone just isn't getting 'em to work correctly. If anything, Isaiah's biggest flaw is that he spends wayy too much money to get what he wants, but the thing is, Knicks should be wayy better than what their record shows for...
Dumars did a great job giving Brown the best team possible to play his preferred type of basketball, with no superstars and with players who wanted to play as a team. Thomas should have done the same, instead he has just collected overrated and overpaid players with no criterion at all. Brown is a good coach, but he's not supernatural. I blame it on Thomas. Adding Francis to a team full of guards was the masterpiece!
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Blame on Isiah Thomas and his stupid moves. He's probably on crack, man. He can't be that dumb!
I would much rather blame it on Larry Brown, Isaiah has actually compiled a nice roster with loads of talent, someone just isn't getting 'em to work correctly. If anything, Isaiah's biggest flaw is that he spends wayy too much money to get what he wants, but the thing is, Knicks should be wayy better than what their record shows for...
Dumars did a great job giving Brown the best team possible to play his preferred type of basketball, with no superstars and with players who wanted to play as a team. Thomas should have done the same, instead he has just collected overrated and overpaid players with no criterion at all. Brown is a good coach, but he's not supernatural. I blame it on Thomas. Adding Francis to a team full of guards was the masterpiece!
PG Stephon Marbury
SG Jamal Crawford
SF Quentin Richardson
PF Channing Frye
C Eddy Curry
^^That is what he started the season with. That should have done WAY better than it did...He failed with that, they made some trades. They managed to obtain Jalen Rose...Lets try again:
PG Stephon Marbury
SG Quentin Richardson
SF Jalen Rose
PF Malik Rose
C Eddy Curry
Again, he fails with a talented roster that should easily make playoffs...He manages to obtain Francis. Lets try again:
PG Stephon Marbury
SG Steve Francis
SF Jalen Rose
PF David Lee
C Eddy Curry
Another failure?...The guy simply can't get his players to play the way he wants to. If he was as great a coach as everyone thinks, they wouldn't be the worst team in the league with all the talent compiled on their roster...It's just weird to me...PeACe
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Obviously he didn't do an amazing job, man. I'm not saying he's the victim, or that he did the best job possible. I'm saying Thomas didn't help. Like you said he built a team perfect for a run-and-gun type of basketball. So what's the point making a run-and-gun team when Brown is the coach? Shit, give him the team he wants and give him another season to build some chemistry. Or fire him and sign Don Nelson.
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Signing Brown for this kind of team was a terrible move by the dumb ass Thomas in the first place. Like you niggas said, Brown and the type of team don't fit together.
Like with the players, he just signed a star-coach and not a kind of coach who provides what is needed. He just signs stars and pays them a lot. He doesn't build a team. Just a collection of posterchilds.
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He's building the Real Madrid of the NBA.
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But if Larry Brown can't work with what he's got, as long as it's talent, then he's not as good of a coach as we all thought...I mean, come on, he needs to have some sort of versatility so that he can coach different types of players, because not all players are the same...Yea, Larry Brown is good at coaching perfect teams...Look at the situation Flip Saunders fell into. In fact, Flip is a better coach, because he improved that Detroit team immensely on the offensive end...All I'm saying is that at the end of the day, Larry Brown was the one brought in to do the job, Larry Brown has failed...It's not like they didn't make good trades (Eddy Curry, Quentin Richardson, Jalen Rose), it's not like they didn't draft good players (Nate Robinson, David Lee, Channing Frye), it's just that the coach can't work something out...PeACe
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run-and-gun system wouldnt work with eddy curry, malik rose, butler...they dont have the big men that can move to make it very successful. yeah marbury, francis, rose, crawford can run but the rest of the team will be laggin behind.
no shit the system doesnt work bcaus aint nobody passin the ball, and wen they do they turn it over. they lead the league in TO's and it'll take more than 1 year to make brown's system work with the knicks IF THE PLAYERS STICK WITH IT (which they wont). thats why i wouldnt mind if the knicks gave him another season. any1 can tell that it's not working, the players are sick of the system and brown is sick of the players effort. it's not workin, blame it on whoever you want, but
btw, AI moved to SG durin the brown years bcaus he couldnt cut it as the passing PG.
the coach doesnt fit the team and the team doesnt fit the coach. that wasn't larry brown's fault. it was the guys upstairs that made the moves.
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run-and-gun system wouldnt work with eddy curry, malik rose, butler...they dont have the big men that can move to make it very successful. yeah marbury, francis, rose, crawford can run but the rest of the team will be laggin behind.
no shit the system doesnt work bcaus aint nobody passin the ball, and wen they do they turn it over. they lead the league in TO's and it'll take more than 1 year to make brown's system work with the knicks IF THE PLAYERS STICK WITH IT (which they wont). thats why i wouldnt mind if the knicks gave him another season. any1 can tell that it's not working, the players are sick of the system and brown is sick of the players effort. it's not workin, blame it on whoever you want, but
btw, AI moved to SG durin the brown years bcaus he couldnt cut it as the passing PG.
the coach doesnt fit the team and the team doesnt fit the coach. that wasn't larry brown's fault. it was the guys upstairs that made the moves.
Like I said, Larry Brown needs to learn how to adapt to his players and be a little more diverse...It's part of being a coach, you can't always expect to be dealt the perfect team...Look at what he did with the olympic team, he had SO MUCH talent he didn't know how to use...It's the same thing, he doesn't know how to use the talent in New York...Stephon Marbury can easily play the role of Chuancey Billups, Jamal Crawford can play like Richard Hamilton, Jalen Rose was better than Prince, Channing Frye is like a raw Tim Duncan, Eddy Curry can be an elite big in the east...Then you have the bench, which alone can shit on most starting line-ups in the NBA. Steve Francis can score points when needed, David Lee is a great prospect, Nate Robinson is an even better prospect, almost like an Earl Boykins, Quentin Richardson is one of the sharpest shooters in the game, Jerome James can explode when it's needed, I can keep going on forever man...He has all the parts, he now needs to go ask Phil Jackson how to work with them...PeACe
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the system doesnt work for the team. its not rocket science to figure that out. his system has proven itself to work. he's had MANY teams that weren't nearly as good as before he got there and turned them into contenders. he has proven himself a hall of famer being successful in NCAA and NBA ball. you blame it on larry, i blame it on everybody. just becaus he didnt get the job done for the knicks doesnt mean he's not one of the greatest coaches of all time. nobody's perfect nik.
1 Championship, 3 Conference Championships, 10 Division Championships, 25 Playoff appearances in 26 seasons and 1,000+ wins (not including ABA)
you blame it on larry, i blame it on everybody.
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We'll see...
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see what?
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see what?
I don't blame it on Larry...I blame a majority of it on him though. He is the coach, as the coach of the team, he needs to take most of the responsibility...We'll see if Larry does anything within these next 5 years, or if he even lasts as the coach...PeACe
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see what?
I don't blame it on Larry...I blame a majority of it on him though. He is the coach, as the coach of the team, he needs to take most of the responsibility...We'll see if Larry does anything within these next 5 years, or if he even lasts as the coach...PeACe
he has said himself numerous times that you can blame it on him if u want becaus he was put there to win and he hasnt done it. i dont think he even wants to coach there ne more becaus everytime he's being interviewed he is embarrassed and ashamed.
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Stupid Mavs are going to lose tonight. At least the Spurs lost last night (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y274/Lakers4life/man1.gif)
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Gawdammit...Stupid mavs did lose...LMAO J.Rich took a shit on the Mavs ;D :laugh: 8)
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The Return of Amare
So after 294 days you wonder if Amare has lost a step since the 42 point performance against SA in game 5 of the west conference finals. Without Amare, the Suns are 1st in the Pacific Division, just about to lock up the 2nd seed. Only blemish to their incredible season is the fewest number of offensive rebounds (9.5) in the NBA. but that's somethin amare can fix.
so how did he do in his first game back? lets peep the stats....
19 mins Amare also helped the Suns to a NBA season-high 76 first half points
20 points
7-14 FG With Amare in the first half, Suns outscored Portland 34-15
6-7 FT
7 rebounds Without Amare in the first half, Portland outscored Suns 48-42
2 blocks
Domination
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The Return of Amare
So after 294 days you wonder if Amare has lost a step since the 42 point performance against SA in game 5 of the west conference finals. Without Amare, the Suns are 1st in the Pacific Division, just about to lock up the 2nd seed. Only blemish to their incredible season is the fewest number of offensive rebounds (9.5) in the NBA. but that's somethin amare can fix.
so how did he do in his first game back? lets peep the stats....
19 mins Amare also helped the Suns to a NBA season-high 76 first half points
20 points
7-14 FG With Amare in the first half, Suns outscored Portland 34-15
6-7 FT
7 rebounds Without Amare in the first half, Portland outscored Suns 48-42
2 blocks
Domination
I would actually prefer to play them WITH Amare in the playoffs...Our small line-ups aren't too great and I think Kwame would do fine on Amare defensively...PeACe
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Amaré is my nigga. Thank god he was "injured" all season. That way Dirk can get his MVP title 8)
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Look's like Alonzo's injury isn't very severe. he's got a torn right calf and is expected to miss 3-4 weeks. Mourning is glad that the injury wasn't worse and hasnt ruled out the possibility of coming back before the season's over but he is cautious. "I'm going to make sure that I'm healthy before I come back," Mourning said. "It's important for me to be right before I step back on the court, especially going into the postseason. I don't want to risk coming back too early and injuring it again. It wouldn't be worth it."
Mourning has been very solid coming off the bench. averaging 60% FG, 8 points, 6 rebounds, and 3 blocks in 20 mins. if he was a starter, he wud be a lock for defensive player of the year. Mourning is 36 years old but is in incredible shape.
big relief for Alonzo & the Heat. if they're gonna try to dethrone the Pistons, they'll need all the help they can get.
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Those young players should rec all the games Alonzo is playing at 36 years old and learn from him how to play bball. Shit, he's incredible. I'd rather have him in Purple&Gold than Shaq, and i'm not joking. Don't take it as a diss to Shaq, but as a compliment to Zo.
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big relief for Alonzo & the Heat. if they're gonna try to dethrone the Pistons, they'll need all the help they can get.
Dethrone the Pistons? That was 2 years ago, buddy...LOL
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big relief for Alonzo & the Heat. if they're gonna try to dethrone the Pistons, they'll need all the help they can get.
Dethrone the Pistons? That was 2 years ago, buddy...LOL
dethrone the pistons --------> eastern conference champs
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props to charlie vilanueva. dude putr up 48 pts and 9 boards.
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props to charlie vilanueva. dude putr up 48 pts and 9 boards.
4real..dude went buckwild on the bucks. 20-32 FG
i forgot to post up kirilenko's stats last nite. 15 points 14 rebounds 10 BLOCKS :o :o :o
AK47 is hella skilled all around and real underrated
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Bosh is leaving soon, I can almost assure you that Charlie V. is the face of the Raptors for the future...PeACe
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Bosh aint going anywhere .......He will re-sign this summer. He is boys with all his teamates and they all get along and have a good relationship together. Plus, he can get the most money if he stays in Toronto which they are going to offer him this summer. They will re-sign Mike James this summer too and still be under the cap. Toronto's future is looking real good right now with Bosh, James and Charlie V. They will get a top 10 draft pick this year too. Cant wait to see what the off season brings for the Raptors.
BTW, IF Toronto cant resign Bosh, it would be a HUGE dissapointment considering they just brought the NBA's GM of the year in Bryan Colangelo.
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^^Nice to see you've avoided the Laker thread since the Lakers have been in the playoffs basically all year long...You still remember the bet, right? Anyways, I'm thinkin' there's a chance Bosh WILL re-sign, but I honestly see him heavily considering LA, especially since he'll shine much brighter over there...Charlie V. is a natural 4, he'll LOVE to take over if Bosh leaves...We'll see though. But I hope you're preparing some nice Canadian chrons for me... 8)
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fuck man I havnt forgot, and a bet is a bet......so if the Lakers stay in the top 8 the you will get your Canadian bud..
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Melo's been havin a pretty solid season. his team is sittin pretty in the 3rd spot, on top of their division (Hands down shittiest in the west) and he hasn't gotten much attention so i figure i'd post up his stats.
37 mpg, 27 ppg, 48% FG, 5 rpg, 3 apg, 1 spg, 1 bpg
not INCREDIBLE stats, but they're pretty good none the less.
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I would like to see mike James with the Lakers next season....
anyways....LOL @ the Queens losing 5 out of their last 7 games :P
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my my my, mr. kirilenko has been throwin a block party all week long
avg 5.4 blocks in the last 5 games :o :o..sucks 4 him that the jazz can't make the playoffs
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Did K.Rush really get release or was that just a april fools joke? :o
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Did K.Rush really get release or was that just a april fools joke? :o
:o :o :o
Before his big injury, he was their FIRST scoring option!!! I guess they want Raymond Felton to get more minutes, he improved a lot in Rush's absence...I just HOPE the Lakers pick Rush up. Even for next year! If we wouldn't have signed Jim Jackson, I'm willing to bet we would have signed Rush as soon as he was waived...Maybe next season though.
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I'm totally for a Rush return..... a consistent outside threat 8)
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I'm totally for a Rush return..... a consistent outside threat 8)
Yup...and still developing as well! Remember those vicious three's vs. the T-Wolves in the western conference finals? Rush was playing like an all-star just before his injury...
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if Mavs win tonight, they win the west 8)
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if Mavs win tonight, they win the west 8)
Ummm, no they don't. Dallas is 2 games behind San Antonio...
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my my my, mr. kirilenko has been throwin a block party all week long
avg 5.4 blocks in the last 5 games :o :o..sucks 4 him that the jazz can't make the playoffs
AK-47 is a dangerous mofo, insane on defence, the Jazz really need to find a good offensive player to support AK with that I think they could make a pretty dangerous team
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my my my, mr. kirilenko has been throwin a block party all week long
avg 5.4 blocks in the last 5 games :o :o..sucks 4 him that the jazz can't make the playoffs
AK-47 is a dangerous mofo, insane on defence, the Jazz really need to find a good offensive player to support AK with that I think they could make a pretty dangerous team
Jazz have a team. It's a matter of staying healthy for them.
PG D. Williams
SG AK47
SF Harpring
PF Okur
C Boozer
^^That's a great starting 5. They'll definitely make playoffs next year (assuming they stay together and Boozer doesn't leave for LA).
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praying bosh signs with the lakers, that would be soo sick,one of my fav players
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yet another game jamal crawford has scored the winning basket. 8)
i always liked him in chicago and he's gonna do some damage in the future.
LETS GO KNICKS! ;)
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if Mavs win tonight, they win the west 8)
Ummm, no they don't. Dallas is 2 games behind San Antonio...
says the most optimistic nigga (optimistic when it comes to his team)
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yet another game jamal crawford has scored the winning basket. 8)
i always liked him in chicago and he's gonna do some damage in the future.
LETS GO KNICKS! ;)
I've always liked Jamal Crawford as well. I don't think Larry Brown knows how to use him...It's a fuckin' shame, cuz he's a talent.
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if Mavs win tonight, they win the west 8)
Ummm, no they don't. Dallas is 2 games behind San Antonio...
says the most optimistic nigga (optimistic when it comes to his team)
What you talkin' 'bout? I WANT Dallas to finish first in the west (so we can face them instead of the Spurs if we end up in the 8th seed), but it just seems like the Spurs have their minds set on first place... they have the advantage (still one game up) and they ARE the better team...PeACe
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playoffs are nearing boys......:banana_rock:
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playoffs are nearing boys......:banana_rock:
Yup...It'd be great if the Clippers (or Grizzlies) lost the rest of their games and the Lakers won the rest of theirs. 8)
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playoffs are nearing boys......:banana_rock:
Yup...It'd be great if the Clippers (or Grizzlies) lost the rest of their games and the Lakers won the rest of theirs. 8)
Looking forward to the playoffs myself...
Anyway I wish that would happen but it won't, no way.
In other news, the Queens have a 6 point lead on Phoenix in the 3rd quarter. I want Phoenix to win this game, since I'd rather have the Lakers face Phoenix than San Antonio in the first round. San Antonio is built for the playoffs.
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Queens lose to Phoenix. In other news, Shaq gets triple double.
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looks like shaqs gearing up just in time for the playoffs stepping his game up
gonna be an exciting eastern conferance playoffs im looking for a miami heat detroit pistons show down again like last year in the eastern conf. finals
u guys remember when shaq dropped ben wallace last year
heat gonna get back zo mourning jason williams...
gonna be a great series if these 2 teams meet up again... heat were a bit shaky in the season 2-12 against the elite teams
come play off time though , things that happened in the season are as relevant as a 10$ foodstamp today!
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wasn't there a magic fan here? they have won 6 straight games and they just beat the spurs, heat & pistons :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
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^^^^ Bombfirst
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i wanna see a piston heat matchup real bad but i got a weird feeling that new jerseys gonna upset and make it to the easternconference finals
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wasn't there a magic fan here? they have won 6 straight games and they just beat the spurs, heat & pistons :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
^^^^ Bombfirst
YES, and it's a beautiful sight :'(
They are shaping up to be a good team
PG Jameer Nelson - can score and is an excellent passer, unlike Francis he knows to get the ball to his teamates.
SG Deshawn Stevenson - He can put up 15 points nothing special but a nice role player
SF Hedo Turkolu - Shows signs of being a versatile player by passing the ball and scoring
PF Dwight Howard - Looks to be a beast on the boards and is improving on his offense, really needs to improve FT shooting
C Darko Milicic - Most likely to start next year. He's avg over 2 blocks in 20 mins in his time in Orlando. Looks a little more refined offensively than Howrad at thid point and has a nice jump shot for a big man.
Plus there is still our 1st RD pick Fran Vasquez, wonder what he can do? The little bitch decided after all not to come and play AFTER they selected him and he said he wasn't a coward >:( He most likely will come next year.
BTW are you back h cottie? So I can start to up the albums again.
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^^^ nah not yet cuz, im in SD at my cousins house playin around on his computer. i couldnt be without DUBCC for a week again, i'd probably lose my mind
but newayz, ill be back home on saturday so u can start uppin them then....*props*
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i wanna see a piston heat matchup real bad but i got a weird feeling that new jerseys gonna upset and make it to the easternconference finals
That wouldn't be an upset. New Jersey>>>Miami...As for Shaq, his first career tripple double 24 points/28 rebounds/15 blocks. His second career tripple double 15 points/11 rebounds/10 assists. See what I'm getting at?...Lamar Odom's tripple double 15 points/13 rebounds/10 assists. Anyone still think it was a bad trade? :laugh: If we offered Kwame & Odom for Shaq right now, Miami would do it in a second...
About the Magic, they're actually looking like a good team. Maybe Francis was holding 'em down, who knows, but they're really tearing shit up right now...They have a really nice future, especially with Dwight Howard...PeACe
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i wanna see a piston heat matchup real bad but i got a weird feeling that new jerseys gonna upset and make it to the easternconference finals
That wouldn't be an upset. New Jersey>>>Miami...As for Shaq, his first career tripple double 24 points/28 rebounds/15 blocks. His second career tripple double 15 points/11 rebounds/10 assists. See what I'm getting at?...Lamar Odom's tripple double 15 points/13 rebounds/10 assists. Anyone still think it was a bad trade? :laugh: If we offered Kwame & Odom for Shaq right now, Miami would do it in a second...
About the Magic, they're actually looking like a good team. Maybe Francis was holding 'em down, who knows, but they're really tearing shit up right now...They have a really nice future, especially with Dwight Howard...PeACe
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LOL @ the EC, the # 5, 6, 7, & 8 seeds are all under .500 ;D ...And the Magic won again, that's 8 straight wins, D.howard had 28/ 26 :o :o :o :o :o :o :rubeyes: :rubeyes: ...pacers lost to da bobcats ;D it'll be funny if the pacers miss the playoffs ;D ..hopefully d.howard & the magic get in the playoffs.
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yea the west is the superior confrence right now overall 8)
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LOL @ the EC, the # 5, 6, 7, & 8 seeds are all under .500 ;D ...And the Magic won again, that's 8 straight wins, D.howard had 28/ 26 :o :o :o :o :o :o :rubeyes: :rubeyes: ...pacers lost to da bobcats ;D it'll be funny if the pacers miss the playoffs ;D ..hopefully d.howard & the magic get in the playoffs.
8) But the Bulls won 2day and Magic are eliminated from playoff contention :'( :'( :'( damn Shaq and the Heat. Fat ass is giving me more reason to hate him >:(