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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Meho on January 22, 2006, 03:20:57 AM
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Ok I think its about time to make this controversial thread.
My pick is 50 Cent.Why?He sounds dope over Dre beats and he had proved that he can rip a Dre beat on Never Enough,Heat,In Da Club,G'd Up...Plus we all know 50 was a very talented artisit back then.I have faith in Dre that he will bring that back on Detox (like on Never Enough).Game on the other hand hasn't really ripped a Dre beat except for Start From Scratch and he was drunk as hell when he did that.Plus we all know Game never was really talented,he might improve though.In my opinion his talent probably doesnt go higher then "like this,like that,Air Force Ones,Nwa 4 life,Eazy E..." rhymes.And if you are comparing Game and 50 cent check out the songs they did together.50 ripped Game on Hate It Or Love It and How We Do + his hook on Westside Story was nice.Anyone who denies that is igonrant.
So, who would you pick?
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well im not really sure if i want any of them on Detox...
imo 50 cent will ruin the tracks he gets on... i actually allways wanted to hear a Dre/Game track on a dre beat....
hmm so i guess its The Game....
tho i wouldnt mind if none of them will be on Detox...
but both probally will....
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^^you crazy?? Game all the way. Game grew a lot since the documentary, while 50's only gettin worse. If there's one rapper who's gettin boring it's 50.
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well im not really sure if i want any of them on Detox...
imo 50 cent will ruin the tracks he gets on... i actually allways wanted to hear a Dre/Game track on a dre beat....
hmm so i guess its The Game....
tho i wouldnt mind if none of them will be on Detox...
but both probally will....
Guess thats your opinion.I doubt 50 will ruin the tracks if he spits like this:
My flow's untouchable, now you gotta face it
Uh-oh, it gets worse when I go back to the basics
You gon', say the wrong shit and get your whole face split
The smell of victory love it so much I can taste it
I spot my target, blaze it, direct hit, graze it
Your peace talk, save it, your shit sounds, dated
You're over-rated, I'm obli-gated, to
study your moves then crush you motherfuckers
If I'm the best and the worst then God's gift is a curse
Soldier trained to destroy, you payin attention boy?
I spit shit, slick shit, so quick you miss shit
To be specific I go ballistic it's hieroglyphic
My music is a drug, press play you ain't gotta sniff it
Shoot it or pop it, roll it bag it or chop it
It get you high over and over but you gotta cop it
When it's hot it's hot, your hatin is undeniable, stop it
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^^ That's just the shit I've been thinking of. At least 50 has the potential to turn something into a classic verse on Detox. I don't think Game can.
Voted for 50... I really did :P
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well im not really sure if i want any of them on Detox...
imo 50 cent will ruin the tracks he gets on... i actually allways wanted to hear a Dre/Game track on a dre beat....
hmm so i guess its The Game....
tho i wouldnt mind if none of them will be on Detox...
but both probally will....
Guess thats your opinion.I doubt 50 will ruin the tracks if he spits like this:
My flow's untouchable, now you gotta face it
Uh-oh, it gets worse when I go back to the basics
You gon', say the wrong shit and get your whole face split
The smell of victory love it so much I can taste it
I spot my target, blaze it, direct hit, graze it
Your peace talk, save it, your shit sounds, dated
You're over-rated, I'm obli-gated, to
study your moves then crush you motherfuckers
If I'm the best and the worst then God's gift is a curse
Soldier trained to destroy, you payin attention boy?
I spit shit, slick shit, so quick you miss shit
To be specific I go ballistic it's hieroglyphic
My music is a drug, press play you ain't gotta sniff it
Shoot it or pop it, roll it bag it or chop it
It get you high over and over but you gotta cop it
When it's hot it's hot, your hatin is undeniable, stop it
yup it is my opinion... you did call the topic: "Who would YOU rather see on Detox" :P
i just like game over dre beats more than 50 cent over dre beats...
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well im not really sure if i want any of them on Detox...
imo 50 cent will ruin the tracks he gets on... i actually allways wanted to hear a Dre/Game track on a dre beat....
hmm so i guess its The Game....
tho i wouldnt mind if none of them will be on Detox...
but both probally will....
Guess thats your opinion.I doubt 50 will ruin the tracks if he spits like this:
My flow's untouchable, now you gotta face it
Uh-oh, it gets worse when I go back to the basics
You gon', say the wrong shit and get your whole face split
The smell of victory love it so much I can taste it
I spot my target, blaze it, direct hit, graze it
Your peace talk, save it, your shit sounds, dated
You're over-rated, I'm obli-gated, to
study your moves then crush you motherfuckers
If I'm the best and the worst then God's gift is a curse
Soldier trained to destroy, you payin attention boy?
I spit shit, slick shit, so quick you miss shit
To be specific I go ballistic it's hieroglyphic
My music is a drug, press play you ain't gotta sniff it
Shoot it or pop it, roll it bag it or chop it
It get you high over and over but you gotta cop it
When it's hot it's hot, your hatin is undeniable, stop it
yup it is my opinion... you did call the topic: "Who would YOU rather see on Detox" :P
i just like game over dre beats more than 50 cent over dre beats...
Yup yup, I apologize.Each to his own.
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^^you crazy?? Game all the way. Game grew a lot since the documentary, while 50's only gettin worse. If there's one rapper who's gettin boring it's 50.
Tell me how the hell did Game improve?
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well im not really sure if i want any of them on Detox...
imo 50 cent will ruin the tracks he gets on... i actually allways wanted to hear a Dre/Game track on a dre beat....
hmm so i guess its The Game....
tho i wouldnt mind if none of them will be on Detox...
but both probally will....
Guess thats your opinion.I doubt 50 will ruin the tracks if he spits like this:
My flow's untouchable, now you gotta face it
Uh-oh, it gets worse when I go back to the basics
You gon', say the wrong shit and get your whole face split
The smell of victory love it so much I can taste it
I spot my target, blaze it, direct hit, graze it
Your peace talk, save it, your shit sounds, dated
You're over-rated, I'm obli-gated, to
study your moves then crush you motherfuckers
If I'm the best and the worst then God's gift is a curse
Soldier trained to destroy, you payin attention boy?
I spit shit, slick shit, so quick you miss shit
To be specific I go ballistic it's hieroglyphic
My music is a drug, press play you ain't gotta sniff it
Shoot it or pop it, roll it bag it or chop it
It get you high over and over but you gotta cop it
When it's hot it's hot, your hatin is undeniable, stop it
yup it is my opinion... you did call the topic: "Who would YOU rather see on Detox" :P
i just like game over dre beats more than 50 cent over dre beats...
Yup yup, I apologize.Each to his own.
apoligize accepted :P
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I like game more but 50 wins in this one, atleast if he rips his verses like in never enough
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well i voted for Game
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Both... they're both Dre's artists... and I trust whoever Dre wants on the album.
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Game but preferably neither, if 50 was on it he would end up saying he was the reason it was so good.
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to be honest i dont really want any of them on it, if i have to choose id say game
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Game one because he is from teh westcoast and is on the rise and 50 imo is on the way down. Maybe no sales wise but lyrically.
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50 becauses hes just better
would dre make them do verses for the same song, then put them on it together?
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Some of you have voted for 50 based on his verse from Never Enough. That's one verse! Sure, it was a tight one, but look at his songs from The Massacre. They were pretty much garbage with him mumbling on practically every track...
50 Cent doesn't give a single fuck about the music he makes, otherwise he'd try to put more effort into it to deliver more good verses such as on Never Enough. He wouldn't even need somebody like Dr. Dre to bring out the best of him.
Judging from Game's last 3 mixtapes, everyone can tell he's improved lyrically and he has also shown he's able to write some catchy hooks (Walkin' In The Rain, They Sayin', etc...).
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Some of you have voted for 50 based on his verse from Never Enough. That's one verse! Sure, it was a tight one, but look at his songs from The Massacre. They were pretty much garbage with him mumbling on practically every track...
One verse?At least there is a verse thats worth mentioning.Tell me a Game verse over a Dre beat where he rips it.And its not like thats the only Dre song 50 rips(check my first post).Plus if you check 50's pre Aftermath stuff you can see that he is/was very dope.And yes its true 50 was wack on the Massacre most of the time altough he proved his talent on 3,4 songs(Position Of Power,Ski Mask Way,Somebody Gonna Die Tonite).
50 Cent doesn't give a single fuck about the music he makes, otherwise he'd try to put more effort into it to deliver more good verses such as on Never Enough. He wouldn't even need somebody like Dr. Dre to bring out the best of him.
Well you can say the same about Game.He always sticks to his wacky formula of name droping and Compton 4 life stuff.He sounded fresh when he started with his whole G-Unot persona but got dull quick.And Game wouldnt need alcohol to bring out the best of him if he had any more talent.
Judging from Game's last 3 mixtapes, everyone can tell he's improved lyrically and he has also shown he's able to write some catchy hooks (Walkin' In The Rain, They Sayin', etc...).
How the hell did he improve?Yeah,he sounded dope on 300 bars but everybody on dubcc is overrating this song(putting it near No Vaseline or Ether ::) ).Like I said it was fresh and new but then the whole 3 mixtapes sounded exactly the same.G - Unot,fuck 50 Cent,fuck Lloyd Banks and Young Buck.Oh, and Olivia is a man.
Not even mentioning the regular name droping(verse on Jamie Foxx album), tell me how the hell did he improve?
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50 blew himself up and helped game blow up too, both times over dre beats. 50 comes off a lot better on dre beats, should easily be him over the game on detox. my prediction game will get 1 verse, 50 will get a few and perhaps a hook or two and that won't be a bad thing on the lp.
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And its not like thats the only Dre song 50 rips(check my first post).Plus if you check 50's pre Aftermath stuff you can see that he is/was very dope.
My point exactly. He was pretty good on GRODT, but like I said, he should put way more effort into his rhymes instead of having an attitude like "hey, I'm 50 Cent. If people see my name on the album, they'll buy it regardless of the quality".
tell me how the hell did he improve?
In my opinion he has improved on a lyrical level:
1) Some of his rhyme-schemes now are different than the ones on The Documentary. They're more "complex/creative, etc..."
2) On his mixtapes he has proved he can come up with catchy hooks
3) His flow is always on point, there's no denying that.
As for the name-dropping, you got a point there. I'd rather see him leaving that behind, but I guess it's part of his style. At the end of the day, it compensates with the 3 aspects I mentioned above...
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to be honest the game just isn't very good. its more his delivery and flow than any consideration of lyrics and it still seems to be that way on all latest guest features. sure his mixtapes are pretty cool but again its not as if he's lyrically inspired, its just him getting pissed off which matches the delivery style he uses.
my 2 cents
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Oh I ain't even gotta think about this one. The Game, no doubt. Compton on the mic and on the track.
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The Game.
Why? For one: 50 Cent hasn't released any decent track since his Get Rich Or Die Trying album. The Game proved he's an above average rapper and he's improving as well.
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its shocking to see there a 6 stupid people so far
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^^you crazy?? Game all the way. Game grew a lot since the documentary, while 50's only gettin worse. If there's one rapper who's gettin boring it's 50.
Tell me how the hell did Game improve?
i think people are being ignorant if they dont see Game grew lyrically bigtime since the Doc
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You a steroid addict, you need Detox
Hopefully you make it out in time to be on Detox
Game
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hittman.
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FUCK 50
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^^you crazy?? Game all the way. Game grew a lot since the documentary, while 50's only gettin worse. If there's one rapper who's gettin boring it's 50.
Tell me how the hell did Game improve?
i think people are being ignorant if they dont see Game grew lyrically bigtime since the Doc
Its not ignorant,its the truth.Like it or not its still "I do this like___(a popular artist in the industry),its Compton,Eazy E.,Dr.Dre..
I mean he even metioned Dr.Dre in that Katrina song!
And you cant compare his mixtape stuff(and even that is nothing special) to his major release verses(Jamie Foxx,Kanye West-the remix...?
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The Game.
Why? For one: 50 Cent hasn't released any decent track since his Get Rich Or Die Trying album. The Game proved he's an above average rapper and he's improving as well.
Theres the trick.When you were listening to GRODT or his pre Math songs you could really say: "Damn this guy is talented!".
Now tell me any Game tracks that made you say that...
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And its not like thats the only Dre song 50 rips(check my first post).Plus if you check 50's pre Aftermath stuff you can see that he is/was very dope.
My point exactly. He was pretty good on GRODT, but like I said, he should put way more effort into his rhymes instead of having an attitude like "hey, I'm 50 Cent. If people see my name on the album, they'll buy it regardless of the quality".
Yeah but Game is also doing the same thing.He said he will have almost all the producers he had on The Doc,because you dont fix what sells.I bet you his new Lp(if it ever comes out) will be Doc part 2.With all the same rhyme - schemes...
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^Game said he wants his new CD to sound more "NWA'ish".Anyways Game all the way, see cause while Game is evolving, 50 is devolving or however you'd call it.
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The Game.
Why? For one: 50 Cent hasn't released any decent track since his Get Rich Or Die Trying album. The Game proved he's an above average rapper and he's improving as well.
Theres the trick.When you were listening to GRODT or his pre Math songs you could really say: "Damn this guy is talented!".
Now tell me any Game tracks that made you say that...
Higher, 120, Ghost Unit intro, Dreams, Church For Thugs, The Documentary
^^ just a few that come to mind
You used to be on Game's dick. What happened?
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The Game.
Why? For one: 50 Cent hasn't released any decent track since his Get Rich Or Die Trying album. The Game proved he's an above average rapper and he's improving as well.
Theres the trick.When you were listening to GRODT or his pre Math songs you could really say: "Damn this guy is talented!".
Now tell me any Game tracks that made you say that...
Higher, 120, Ghost Unit intro, Dreams, Church For Thugs, The Documentary
^^ just a few that come to mind
You used to be on Game's dick. What happened?
he's the biggest 50 dickrider/game hater on this forum
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The Game.
Why? For one: 50 Cent hasn't released any decent track since his Get Rich Or Die Trying album. The Game proved he's an above average rapper and he's improving as well.
Theres the trick.When you were listening to GRODT or his pre Math songs you could really say: "Damn this guy is talented!".
Now tell me any Game tracks that made you say that...
Higher, 120, Ghost Unit intro, Dreams, Church For Thugs, The Documentary
^^ just a few that come to mind
You used to be on Game's dick. What happened?
Nah man, I was just caught up in the westcoast hype.Im just being realistic and objective.
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The Game.
Why? For one: 50 Cent hasn't released any decent track since his Get Rich Or Die Trying album. The Game proved he's an above average rapper and he's improving as well.
Theres the trick.When you were listening to GRODT or his pre Math songs you could really say: "Damn this guy is talented!".
Now tell me any Game tracks that made you say that...
Higher, 120, Ghost Unit intro, Dreams, Church For Thugs, The Documentary
^^ just a few that come to mind
You used to be on Game's dick. What happened?
Nah man, I was just caught up in the westcoast hype.Im just being realistic and objective.
The Massacre was in your top 5 albums of 2005 right? :D
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The Game.
Why? For one: 50 Cent hasn't released any decent track since his Get Rich Or Die Trying album. The Game proved he's an above average rapper and he's improving as well.
Theres the trick.When you were listening to GRODT or his pre Math songs you could really say: "Damn this guy is talented!".
Now tell me any Game tracks that made you say that...
Higher, 120, Ghost Unit intro, Dreams, Church For Thugs, The Documentary
^^ just a few that come to mind
You used to be on Game's dick. What happened?
Nah man, I was just caught up in the westcoast hype.Im just being realistic and objective.
The Massacre was in your top 5 albums of 2005 right? :D
Yup and Games was 1st.Whats your point?
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this:
Im just being realistic and objective.
The Massacre was in your top 5 albums of 2005 right? :D
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The Game.
Why? For one: 50 Cent hasn't released any decent track since his Get Rich Or Die Trying album. The Game proved he's an above average rapper and he's improving as well.
Theres the trick.When you were listening to GRODT or his pre Math songs you could really say: "Damn this guy is talented!".
Now tell me any Game tracks that made you say that...
Higher, 120, Ghost Unit intro, Dreams, Church For Thugs, The Documentary
^^ just a few that come to mind
You used to be on Game's dick. What happened?
he's the biggest 50 dickrider/game hater on this forum
Got offended or what?Im just being realistic.And you are the last person to say this with your Game sig and just for example:
Documentary all the way..There were some really boring tracks on Restless
Ha ha
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this:
Im just being realistic and objective.
The Massacre was in your top 5 albums of 2005 right? :D
And Documentary was number 1.Whats your point???
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If you wouldn't be a 50 Cent/Aftermath dickrider, you wouldn't even consider to put The Massacre in your top 5 of last year.
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You know what makes my decision easy? Listening to 50's unreleased "Power of the Dollar" and any of Game's "Untold Story" albums from Get Low Recordz. "Power of the Dollar" was an excellent record, while both volumes of "Untold Story" and "West Coast Resurrection" were boring. Now, both rappers have improved since those albums, but the simple fact is, the entire reason Game got over is because he was on Dre-produced beats with 50 singing his hooks. 50 also had Dre behind him, but it wasn't as if nobody cared besides that - 50 came up through the mixtape scene and underground word-of-mouth, which is how he even got his Shady/Aftermath deal in the first place. Nobody gave a fuck about Game before "Westside Story" and "How We Do" were leaked out.
Game still has potential - "300 Bars" was excellent (even if it wasn't quite what I'd call "classic"), but no matter how hard he tries, he just doesn't have 50's charisma and mic presence. He's simply a pretty good West Coast rapper who's also a fanboy of West Coast rap and lets it show on the mic. So from a musical perspective, I think 50 would sound better on "Detox". Seriously, how many of you would say what you say if it wasn't for the fact that Game is a West Coast rapper and the fact that 50's been acting like an asshole lately? 50 may not be a nice person, but that doesn't make him the lesser rapper.
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If you wouldn't be a 50 Cent/Aftermath dickrider, you wouldn't even consider to put The Massacre in your top 5 of last year.
Well I'm not the only one that put in in their top 10 list.And the album is not that bad as everyone is saying.
And you are the last person to call someone a dickryder---> TQ. Must I say anything else?
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You know what makes my decision easy? Listening to 50's unreleased "Power of the Dollar" and any of Game's "Untold Story" albums from Get Low Recordz. "Power of the Dollar" was an excellent record, while both volumes of "Untold Story" and "West Coast Resurrection" were boring. Now, both rappers have improved since those albums, but the simple fact is, the entire reason Game got over is because he was on Dre-produced beats with 50 singing his hooks. 50 also had Dre behind him, but it wasn't as if nobody cared besides that - 50 came up through the mixtape scene and underground word-of-mouth, which is how he even got his Shady/Aftermath deal in the first place. Nobody gave a fuck about Game before "Westside Story" and "How We Do" were leaked out.
Game still has potential - "300 Bars" was excellent (even if it wasn't quite what I'd call "classic"), but no matter how hard he tries, he just doesn't have 50's charisma and mic presence. He's simply a pretty good West Coast rapper who's also a fanboy of West Coast rap and lets it show on the mic. So from a musical perspective, I think 50 would sound better on "Detox". Seriously, how many of you would say what you say if it wasn't for the fact that Game is a West Coast rapper and the fact that 50's been acting like an asshole lately? 50 may not be a nice person, but that doesn't make him the lesser rapper.
Damn you get a prop.You took the words right out of my mouth.
Dont get me wrong I dont hate Game and like 50.I like them both but the fact is 50 is way more talented.It takes balls to admit this on a westcoast forum but hey thats the way it is.
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"The Massacre" has made a lot of Top 10 lists this year...just check out RapReviews.com; half the staff has it in their lists.
Is it really not possible to like 50's and G-Unit's music without being called a dickrider? I always thought I was completely objective about music, compared to all these wiggers and other suburban muthafuckas who are quick to join the G-Unot campaign. A lot of them are probably just projecting - they're actually Game dickriders.
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"The Massacre" has made a lot of Top 10 lists this year...just check out RapReviews.com; half the staff has it in their lists.
Is it really not possible to like 50's and G-Unit's music without being called a dickrider? I always thought I was completely objective about music, compared to all these wiggers and other suburban muthafuckas who are quick to join the G-Unot campaign. A lot of them are probably just projecting - they're actually Game dickriders.
*props*
As soon as you say something postive about 50 youre a dickryder.But all this Game fans saying G-Unot,Tony Gayo and fucc 50 are of course just normal fans.Yeah right ::)
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The Game > 50 Cent
With that being said, I'm not saying 50 Cent has no talent, but he sure hasn't showcased his talent after GRODT. I don't wanna hear him on Detox. He's a curse to rap.
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Dont get me wrong I dont hate Game and like 50.I like them both but the fact is 50 is way more talented.It takes balls to admit this on a westcoast forum but hey thats the way it is.
Yeah. If 50 was really that much less talented, then why was Game biting his style on the same song ("How We Do")? I can still appreciate Game's music, but 50 is ultimately the more talented. It's just too bad he's also such an obnoxious muh'fucka...
As soon as you say something postive abotu 50 youre a dickrydre.But all this Game fans saying G-Unot,Tony Gayo and fucc 50 are of course just normal fans.Yeah right ::)
Yeah, exactly. They're definitely the real dickriders.
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How We Do = garbage
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collaboration with good charlotte = plain silly
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Game is not talented period.
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hell no 50 IS talented, yes I do hate him nowadays but I LOVE power of the dollar infact, i love all his shit from GRODT and before... I only wished he would care about making good music instead of money so he can show us what he got, TALENT.
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50 cent at his best >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Game
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i heard game wrote 50's verse for how we do???...that wuz b4 the beef too....
i prefer Game....Game has punches an metafores....50 has
"i love you like a fat kid love cake"
oh an isnt "like father like son" a dre beat?...idk always thought it was...game kills that.....
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i heard game wrote 50's verse for how we do???...that wuz b4 the beef too....
i prefer Game....Game has punches an metafores....50 has
"i love you like a fat kid love cake"
oh an isnt "like father like son" a dre beat?...idk always thought it was...game kills that.....
Nah Buckwild produced that.
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well...i think he still served dat beat...
an the fact is...50 has had a lot more chances to rhyme over dre beats....hes had 2 solos was on the 8 mile soundtrack an im pretty sure derell be sum dre produced shit on GRODT soundtrack....
main reason i wouldnt like to see 50...is it opens the door 4 g-unit guest spots....can u imagine gettn tony yayo on detox?....nah...i jus wanna see bishop game an the good doc get down....
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50 used to be dope, Game is dope right now & the present is what counts.
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The Game > 50 Cent
With that being said, I'm not saying 50 Cent has no talent, but he sure hasn't showcased his talent after GRODT. I don't wanna hear him on Detox. He's a curse to rap.
Oh so his verses on Hate It Or Love It,Never Enough,G'd Up and some other tracks from the GUnit album were all wack?
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The Game > 50 Cent
With that being said, I'm not saying 50 Cent has no talent, but he sure hasn't showcased his talent after GRODT. I don't wanna hear him on Detox. He's a curse to rap.
Oh so his verses on Hate It Or Love It,Never Enough,G'd Up and some other tracks from the GUnit album were all wack?
the only song in that list that i can recall is hate it or love it. 50 wasn't wack, he was good on the track. game was a lot better in that track though.
sorry to disappoint you
50 used to be dope, Game is dope right now & the present is what counts.
^^^^^^
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50 used to be dope, Game is dope right now & the present is what counts.
Ok at least you have a normal argument.I respect that.
My point is this : I would also rather hear Eminem than Game becuase I know that Dre will bring out the best of him and he'll spit like he did back in the days.Just like 50 was.On the other hand Game is at his prime now(porbably) and didnt show half the talent 50 and Eminem used to have.
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50 used to be dope, Game is dope right now & the present is what counts.
Ok at least you have a normal argument.I respect that.
My point is this : I would also rather hear Eminem than Game becuase I know that Dre will bring out the best of him and he'll spit like he did back in the days.Just like 50 was.On the other hand Game is at his prime now(porbably) and didnt show half the talent 50 and Eminem used to have.
I doubt Eminem would spit like seven years ago. You can count the decent songs he made after MMLP on one hand.
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The Game > 50 Cent
With that being said, I'm not saying 50 Cent has no talent, but he sure hasn't showcased his talent after GRODT. I don't wanna hear him on Detox. He's a curse to rap.
Oh so his verses on Hate It Or Love It,Never Enough,G'd Up and some other tracks from the GUnit album were all wack?
the only song in that list that i can recall is hate it or love it. 50 wasn't wack, he was good on the track. game was a lot better in that track though.
sorry to disappoint you
50 used to be dope, Game is dope right now & the present is what counts.
^^^^^^
Game outshined fifty on Hate it or Love it ? Let me doubt it
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^Yeah on 1 track, whoopty fuckin' doo.Now lets compare 50's & Game's recent work.Yeah, thats what I thought.
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50 used to be dope especially on tracks like "Youre Lifes On The Line", "How To Rob", and "U Not Like Me" but ever since he lost all respect from all the great producers and artists he used to work with he fell off tremendously. Game right now hasn't made a good track since The Documentary that wasn't a diss track so i really don't know who i would rather see. I highly doubt either of them wouldn't be on Detox though. If Jay-Z and Nas can both be on Scarfaces "The Fix" album right in the middle of their heated rivalry, 50 and Game can be on Detox and it will still be a great album.
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^Yeah on 1 track, whoopty fuckin' doo.Now lets compare 50's & Game's recent work.Yeah, that what I thought.
Yeah Doc >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><< Massacre
But we must not forget Massacre is 50's 2nd album and Doc is Game's debut
GRODT>>Doc
Ski Mask Way>>any track on Doc
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^Yeah on 1 track, whoopty fuckin' doo.Now lets compare 50's & Game's recent work.Yeah, that what I thought.
Yeah Doc >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><< Massacre
But we must not forget Massacre is 50's 2nd album and Doc is Game's debut
GRODT>>Doc
Ski Mask Way>>any track on Doc
LMFAO
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^Yeah on 1 track, whoopty fuckin' doo.Now lets compare 50's & Game's recent work.Yeah, that what I thought.
Yeah Doc >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><< Massacre
But we must not forget Massacre is 50's 2nd album and Doc is Game's debut
GRODT>>Doc
Ski Mask Way>>any track on Doc
LMFAO
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^Yeah on 1 track, whoopty fuckin' doo.Now lets compare 50's & Game's recent work.Yeah, that what I thought.
Yeah Doc >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><< Massacre
But we must not forget Massacre is 50's 2nd album and Doc is Game's debut
GRODT>>Doc
Ski Mask Way>>any track on Doc
LMFAO
Care to name a better track?
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^Yeah on 1 track, whoopty fuckin' doo.Now lets compare 50's & Game's recent work.Yeah, that what I thought.
Yeah Doc >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><< Massacre
But we must not forget Massacre is 50's 2nd album and Doc is Game's debut
GRODT>>Doc
Ski Mask Way>>any track on Doc
Im not sure about that. "How We Do" and "Start From Scratch" are just as good as "Ski Mask Way" but i got tired of all three tracks just as fast.
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^Yeah on 1 track, whoopty fuckin' doo.Now lets compare 50's & Game's recent work.Yeah, that what I thought.
Yeah Doc >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><< Massacre
But we must not forget Massacre is 50's 2nd album and Doc is Game's debut
GRODT>>Doc
Ski Mask Way>>any track on Doc
Im not sure about that. "How We Do" and "Start From Scratch" are just as good as "Ski Mask Way" but i got tired of all three tracks just as fast.
How We Do definetly not and plus that had 50 on it who we know is the wackest of them all :D
Start From Scratch yep probably my fav song from last year.But Game needed a lot of alcohol to do that.
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^Yeah on 1 track, whoopty fuckin' doo.Now lets compare 50's & Game's recent work.Yeah, that what I thought.
Yeah Doc >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><< Massacre
But we must not forget Massacre is 50's 2nd album and Doc is Game's debut
GRODT>>Doc
Ski Mask Way>>any track on Doc
ski mask way - somebody gonna die tonite - ryder music >>>> any track on doc
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the only song in that list that i can recall is hate it or love it. 50 wasn't wack, he was good on the track. game was a lot better in that track though.
sorry to disappoint you
thats a lie, and u know it
i dont know how any of you can compare the documentary with anything of 50
he says he wrote half of it
game says he didnt
no one actually knows apart from those 2 people
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This has been an interesting discussion. Now what?
Game and 50 will BOTH be on Detox. That's simply based on their popularity; you know Dre will put them on there, just like Busta, Eminem and Snoop. That being said, it's time to move on, lads! This discussion is leading nowhere.
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Game is not talented period.
Explain yourself instead of stating it.
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This has been an interesting discussion. Now what?
Game and 50 will BOTH be on Detox. That's simply based on their popularity; you know Dre will put them on there, just like Busta, Eminem and Snoop. That being said, it's time to move on, lads! This discussion is leading nowhere.
ya just assuming things...drop some proof with it.
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Just game ,, Nothin' mo 2 add .,
I just like his flow
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50 for sure. game still isn't up to 50's level lyrically.
the only song in that list that i can recall is hate it or love it. 50 wasn't wack, he was good on the track. game was a lot better in that track though.
sorry to disappoint you
Uh what tracks did Game ruin? Buck's Stomp and Bank's when the chips are down. When I listen to those verses I can't believe the game could ever get signed with crap like that.
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Bishop Lamont should be playing a more prominent role than either of those 2, although lyrically Game is better than 50, however the power of the dollar 50 cent lyrically shits all over Game.
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Game.
IMO, 50 has an incredible business mind (although he's moving dangerously close to over saturation) and a talented songwriter. He is not a particularly strong lyricist, although he drops a notable verse now and then. Even "Get Rich Or Die Tryin" owes the majority of it's praise to a) the beats and b) 50's ability to craft a 'complete' song. In no way is it due to 50 being on the 'Pac and BIG lyricism scale, as ludicrously suggested circa GRODT hype-mania.
Game is a West Coast rapper who released an album that I feel is on par with "Get Rich Or Die Tryin". Anybody who says that Game has never served a Dre beat with the same flair that 50 is clearly ignoring "Higher", a record (minus 50) that damn near every fan who heard it wanted to be the lead single off "The Doc...". As for the person that suggested that before Game got on Dre beats with 50 on the hook, no-one cared - well, it just so happens that the first chance Game's fans got to hear him on a Dre beat was with 50. HAD he dropped those same cuts without 50 on the chorus, he still would have generated one hell of a buzz. It's a virtual certainty. Plus, he was already buzzing off of "UKNOWWHATITIS" Vol. 1.
Now 50 seems unmotivated and boring. To quote XXL's review of "The Massacre", it's like Fiddy "got rich and stopped trying". Plus, he has shown several signs of disrespect to Dre lately in the form of suggesting that he would leave Aftermath and that, should the Doc continue to work with Game, he would have problems with him. Frankly, he doesn't deserve to be part of a legendary artist's swan song.
Game on the other hand has done nothing but improve. His name-dropping of his mentor (while irritating) proves his allegiance to Dre and you can really feel how eager he is to mould a classic album without G-Unit involvement. He flexed his lyricist muscle on "Dreams" (and countless other mixtape disses) - 50 Cent has never made a record that touching and when he tries it comes off as brash and obvious ("God Gave Me Style"). I believe that's why 50 won't respond to Game - he knows he can't fuck with him lyrically. At least, not now...he just does his shit-talking over the instrumental.
Finally, anyone who suggests Game relied on 50 to sell, the same thing could be said about 50 and beef. I'll excuse Ja, but try putting out an record without having to stir up controversy by pathetically starting a war with two rappers you've never had any real contact with ('Kiss and Fat Joe).
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50, for the simple fact that he can be dope when he wants to be
with GRODT, he had a point to prove and it came out a pretty dope album, with The Massacre he wanted to sell and it turned out ass, but when he wants to spit something dope (ie: Never Enough), he can, and that's what Dre will make him spit if he wants to get on the album
Game is nice but isnt really on 50's level yet, i don't think .. the documentary was all about name dropping and compton this, compton that, he's improving based on the mixtape shit he's put out, but he needs to get over the gunit beef if he wants to get any better
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^^you crazy?? Game all the way. Game grew a lot since the documentary, while 50's only gettin worse. If there's one rapper who's gettin boring it's 50.
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game for a verse. 50 for a hook
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voted: The Game
And if 50 is there, i hope he's doin a a few hooks or somethin'...
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i'd prefer game to be on there, but i know 50 would prob do a better job when it came down to it. but snoop dogg > all other possible guest appearances on detox. it'll be kinda wack if detox revives 50's career. that will be so fucking wack.
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Fuck em both. They don't deserve it.
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Fuck em both. They don't deserve it.
and who deserve it...? hittman?LOL
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HAD he dropped those same cuts without 50 on the chorus, he still would have generated one hell of a buzz. It's a virtual certainty. Plus, he was already buzzing off of "UKNOWWHATITIS" Vol. 1.
Not true.He had no buzz on the mainstream level.Uknowhatitis vol.1?C'mon only people on the internet knew about that.50 brought in the mainstream audience,Nobody knew about Game until he signed with G- Unit.Thats a fact
Game on the other hand has done nothing but improve. His name-dropping of his mentor (while irritating) proves his allegiance to Dre and you can really feel how eager he is to mould a classic album without G-Unit involvement. He flexed his lyricist muscle on "Dreams" (and countless other mixtape disses) - 50 Cent has never made a record that touching and when he tries it comes off as brash and obvious ("God Gave Me Style"). I believe that's why 50 won't respond to Game - he knows he can't fuck with him lyrically. At least, not now...he just does his shit-talking over the instrumental.
Never made a record that touching?Check out Ghetto Quaran or some more tracks on his pre Math stuff.Plus Dreams isnt that touching anyways.It was too forced in my opinion.Like he wanted to make Breathe part 2.
Finally, anyone who suggests Game relied on 50 to sell, the same thing could be said about 50 and beef. I'll excuse Ja, but try putting out an record without having to stir up controversy by pathetically starting a war with two rappers you've never had any real contact with ('Kiss and Fat Joe).
Yep thats true.50 and Game are both the same.Attention whores.
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game no doubt to me, i think he will fit the scene more, plus he westcoast, 50cent is dope over dre beats but if 50 starts spittin hooks on detox, i aint gonna be feeling that shit......to me, id rather have a 50 verse than hook on detox but if i had to choose from one, itd be game, he growing and getting better while 50...naaaaaw
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And its not like thats the only Dre song 50 rips(check my first post).Plus if you check 50's pre Aftermath stuff you can see that he is/was very dope.
My point exactly. He was pretty good on GRODT, but like I said, he should put way more effort into his rhymes instead of having an attitude like "hey, I'm 50 Cent. If people see my name on the album, they'll buy it regardless of the quality".
Yeah but Game is also doing the same thing.He said he will have almost all the producers he had on The Doc,because you dont fix what sells.I bet you his new Lp(if it ever comes out) will be Doc part 2.With all the same rhyme - schemes...
his next LP should sound like documentary part 2...it should follow it uo, just be more grimey and some mo westcoast cats on it, look what happened to 50 when he tried switching it up, massacre was a clowns cd...everyone pretty much thought doc was sick, so why should he change it, once he cemented than he can start experimenting, he only one cd deep yet, he gotta sell records with that first than he can start thinking about switcing it up...and about 300 bars, man that shit is crazy....at the moment, game is doing better than anybody on gunit records and he has improved, but ofcourse his still going to talk about some of the stuff like nikes n shit and name dropping, that made him, why should he stop it all together, he just needs to cut it down IMO......
peace
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I doubt Eminem would spit like seven years ago. You can count the decent songs he made after MMLP on one hand.
Renegades, Till I Collapse, Sing for the Moment, Rabbit Run, Lose Yourself, nail in the coffin...oh wait, how many fingers you got?
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^Yeah on 1 track, whoopty fuckin' doo.Now lets compare 50's & Game's recent work.Yeah, that what I thought.
Yeah Doc >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><< Massacre
But we must not forget Massacre is 50's 2nd album and Doc is Game's debut
GRODT>>Doc
Ski Mask Way>>any track on Doc
homie stop....see i aint no dickrider and shit and i respect ppls opinions, but thats straight up jokes.....
all the dre tracks on doc plus alot of others are way better than that
oh and doc=grodt........no way is grodt better....or probably worse, i think they basically the eastcoast and westcoast version of a certain bliueprint dre was involved in
pz
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eminem will spit normal verses on detox, no bullshit, dre wouldnt let him, but i dont think he'll stand out like he use to, games starting to become real ill at the moment, speaking about verses.....check games verse on the dont body yourself remix with nas, he kills that, but i mean.......speaking of dre beats....
how we do was off the hook, i dunno why some of y'all hate on that, it was like a follow up 2 in da club, not as sick, but everyone was bangin that shit in their rides, in clubs, everywhere i was at, that was the joint to get shit cracking, games verse was sick on that, but no doubt 50 came better, hook was weak
and game rips higher, he came real nice on westside story and kills start from scratch and has had less dre beats than 50 to work with....
i aint even saying 50 is wack, because he is not, but recently his been garbage, while game has really stepped up, 300 bars was a monster joint........
to me, i think 50 might be ahead in his devlopment as a artist than game no doubt, but i think game can be better with work, his potentially a better mc, 50s a better song writer overall imo
peace
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And its not like thats the only Dre song 50 rips(check my first post).Plus if you check 50's pre Aftermath stuff you can see that he is/was very dope.
My point exactly. He was pretty good on GRODT, but like I said, he should put way more effort into his rhymes instead of having an attitude like "hey, I'm 50 Cent. If people see my name on the album, they'll buy it regardless of the quality".
Yeah but Game is also doing the same thing.He said he will have almost all the producers he had on The Doc,because you dont fix what sells.I bet you his new Lp(if it ever comes out) will be Doc part 2.With all the same rhyme - schemes...
his next LP should sound like documentary part 2...it should follow it uo, just be more grimey and some mo westcoast cats on it, look what happened to 50 when he tried switching it up, massacre was a clowns cd...everyone pretty much thought doc was sick, so why should he change it, once he cemented than he can start experimenting, he only one cd deep yet, he gotta sell records with that first than he can start thinking about switcing it up...and about 300 bars, man that shit is crazy....at the moment, game is doing better than anybody on gunit records and he has improved, but ofcourse his still going to talk about some of the stuff like nikes n shit and name dropping, that made him, why should he stop it all together, he just needs to cut it down IMO......
peace
Yeah you have some strong points.Massacre was shit compred to Grodt.
Only one thing that you said I dont agree with and it really has nothing to do with the music,but fuck it.How is Game doing better then anyone on GUnit?They went platinum with GRODT Ost in 2 weeks,signed 2 of New Yorks finest groups M.O.P. and Mobb Deep.On the other hand Game cant get a distribution deal for BWS,is signing bunch of rappers that aint gonna release anything and having beef with his own brother.
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The Game.
Why? For one: 50 Cent hasn't released any decent track since his Get Rich Or Die Trying album. The Game proved he's an above average rapper and he's improving as well.
50's verse on warrior part 2 >>>>>>>> games entire catalogue, i swear this whole forum is overrun with west coast nuthuggers, be serious 50 >> game. its not even a debate, at least 50 can rap 4 bars without droppin a name ::)
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And its not like thats the only Dre song 50 rips(check my first post).Plus if you check 50's pre Aftermath stuff you can see that he is/was very dope.
My point exactly. He was pretty good on GRODT, but like I said, he should put way more effort into his rhymes instead of having an attitude like "hey, I'm 50 Cent. If people see my name on the album, they'll buy it regardless of the quality".
Yeah but Game is also doing the same thing.He said he will have almost all the producers he had on The Doc,because you dont fix what sells.I bet you his new Lp(if it ever comes out) will be Doc part 2.With all the same rhyme - schemes...
his next LP should sound like documentary part 2...it should follow it uo, just be more grimey and some mo westcoast cats on it, look what happened to 50 when he tried switching it up, massacre was a clowns cd...everyone pretty much thought doc was sick, so why should he change it, once he cemented than he can start experimenting, he only one cd deep yet, he gotta sell records with that first than he can start thinking about switcing it up...and about 300 bars, man that shit is crazy....at the moment, game is doing better than anybody on gunit records and he has improved, but ofcourse his still going to talk about some of the stuff like nikes n shit and name dropping, that made him, why should he stop it all together, he just needs to cut it down IMO......
peace
Yeah you have some strong points.Massacre was shit compred to Grodt.
Only one thing that you said I dont agree with and it really has nothing to do with the music,but fuck it.How is Game doing better then anyone on GUnit?They went platinum with GRODT Ost in 2 weeks,signed 2 of New Yorks finest groups M.O.P. and Mobb Deep.On the other hand Game cant get a distribution deal for BWS,is signing bunch of rappers that aint gonna release anything and having beef with his own brother.
ah my bad dawg, i meant like his doing better on the mic than any of the current artists on gunit.....is spittin better than banks and buck at the moment, mase is a confused brother, mobb spittin staright garbage, m.o.p be sick but i aint really heard much of them recently no doubt and spider loc needs to get his head checked, how he gonna come from the west and then shit on everyname that made the coast....plus i aint really feeling his shit......yayo is wack.....olivcia gonna never release a cd probably and game has some part to do with that,lol...shit was lame but funny...and in regeards to sales, i think documentary has sold more than any gunit release apart from 50 but i was speaking about sales........and on a side note, the more bishop lament shit im hearing the more impressed im getting with his shit, i think him and glass malaone got nuff talent....along with game i think they could really step shit up, three different types of mc's but all dope...for the westcoast.....again nuttin to do with the topic.......but yeah, game n his brother shit is weak, on the internet to, talk about no respect between family members......but niggaz in hiphop to anything for talktime..thats the biggest difference between todays cats and the old school cats who done retired or made........look how new cats alwasy tryna spit a flashy 16 but old school cats always say something in a 16 rather than tryna be cool with metaphors and shit but at the end of the verse, u come with the thought of......did he just say anything?.....thats why snoop(even in the state he is now)....nas and jigga are still the best three rappers out....cuz most these news cats really aint shit......anywayns im totally off topic now so im done, but back to the topic, i prefer game over 50 cuy i could imagine game spitting something worth listening to like his second verse off the here we go again joint while 50 wil just spit another flashy 16 and be done...and only xzibit can do that and come off sick still to me
peace
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Yeah I agree with GUnit being wack excpet for Mobb,M.O.P. and Young Buck >>> Game
You didnt like 50's verse on Never Enough?
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50 killed his verse on never enough, no doubt