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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: Z the laidback Virus on July 07, 2003, 09:14:50 AM
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All of us agree Ja Rule sucks greatly as a rapper but why does he even have fans? I mean,his voice is horrible and his tracks suck.He isn't even handsome or something! If you ask me it's only because the media say he's a great artist and because of Jennifer Lopez & Ashanti that people even believe he is.
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That is all of your opnion.... I share that opinion but its beacuse of opinions that he has fans. Some people like his music beacause they have different tastes.. I think you basiclly asked a stupid question.
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That is all of your opnion.... I share that opinion but its beacuse of opinions that he has fans. Some people like his music beacause they have different tastes.. I think you basiclly asked a stupid question.
Maybe I did but you must agree with me that the media brainwashes the people to make them buy the stuff they say is hot.
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listen many girls, and guys dont like real rap, (nas, 2pac, biggie, etc.) but they like shit like ja rule and em (even though he shouldnt fit there) and even 50, becasue the get all the pop fans atention with their radio hits, and thats all ja rule has is pop fans, because true rap fans know he is garbage
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listen many girls, and guys dont like real rap, (nas, 2pac, biggie, etc.) but they like shit like ja rule and em (even though he shouldnt fit there) and even 50, becasue the get all the pop fans atention with their radio hits, and thats all ja rule has is pop fans, because true rap fans know he is garbage
those kind of people like Pac too.. he's up there with Em, Ja and shit who be liked by girls and shit
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because true rap fans know he is garbage
so then im not a true rap fan?...i like ja rule...but at the same time i like nas, jay-z, biggie, pac, atmosphere, aceyalone, blackstar as a group, mos def solo, hi tek, talib kweli, common, heiroglyphics, westside connection, dr. dre, warren g, snoop, wu tang as a group, all the wu tang solo's especially method man....so if im not a true rap fan? then what the fuck is?
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Yo that's interesting Don Breezio.Could you explain us what you find attractive about Ja Rule as an MC?That was the point of this thread you see.....
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I dont like him as a person and nor wud I consider his music to be rap but I do consider his music to be pop/r&b and therefore he does release sum good bumpable summer tunes.
Always on time
Thug Lovin
Liven It Up
I'm Real Remix
Nar mean, in summer time his shit is dope to just jive to, I aint hatin on him but nor am I classing him as a rapper.
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lmao...i never called him an mc...there is a difference between an mc and a rapper. maybe you shouldnt put words in pplz mouths (or fingers)...first off i like ja's style...i always have...the shit he does that doesnt have the R&B bitches on hooks is dope...murder reigns is one of my favorite songs of all time. how can i be down with TQ was a dope track, and here are some others for ya:
lost little girl
never again
so much pain (w/ 2pac)
smokin and ridin
thug luvin (w/ bobby brown)
we did it again (w/ metallica)
rock star
The Pledge Remix (w/ Nas & Ashanti)
War (w/ Pras from the movie "Turn It Up"
Holla Holla
Connected (feat. Eastwood & Crooked I)
The Warning
How Many Wanna (probably the dopest ja track...from "Light It UP OST)
Kill Em All
Race Against Time
Race Against Time Pt. II (Tank feat. Ja Rule)
We Murderes Baby (w/ Vita...From Next Friday OST)
6 Feet Underground
Love Me Hate Me
Fuck You
Extasy
Life Ain't A Game
Cali Disease (with Shade Sheist)
Can I Get A (w/ Jay-Z & Amil)
Anything when he was in Cash Money Click
anymore smartass questions? cuz i think i just answered all of them and every single one of you can find atleast a couple tracks out of that that you were feelin.
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does Ja Rule himself say hes an MC? I just see him as a musician....hes a hard worker...u gotta admit that. Me personally, I dont like him but some people just like MUSIC in general u know. A catchy song is a catchy song.
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i agree with baz 8) ;D
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"true rap fans" ::)
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i agree with baz 8) ;D
I hope you mean Bez you egg ed
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i thought tha same question for years.... im out!!!
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the same reason people like 50...em...dre...snoop...jay-z...nas...nelly...
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the same reason people like you............
THEY DONT! j/p
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That is all of your opnion.... I share that opinion but its beacuse of opinions that he has fans. Some people like his music beacause they have different tastes.. I think you basiclly asked a stupid question.
Maybe I did but you must agree with me that the media brainwashes the people to make them buy the stuff they say is hot.
yeah i do agree with that.. but some of it is just like love for the music.. the same as i love Tech N9nes music, or M&M's music.. u feel me?
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i think ja got a lot worste and more pop, as the years went on
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the same reason people like 50...em...dre...snoop...jay-z...nas...nelly...
Or more likely..
Some people on here likes (or pretends to like) Ja Rule for the simple fact that he disses 50 Cent, Eminem & Dr.Dre.
I know for a fact that people wouldn't cheer for Ja Rules music, if he didn't diss the mentioned..
I have trouble seeing a real hiphop-fan applauding "Mesmerize", "I'm real" or any other tracks Ja Rule have put out the last few years.
"The Wrap" and "The Wrap" remix is the exceptions, but that's not real tracks, because both uses other peoples beats..
But it might be a sign that Ja wants to get back to hiphop.. who knows.
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It's Muuuuuuurrrrrrrrddddddaaaaaa!!!!
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Ja is hip hop. He raps and uses harmony. His first album was good, the rest suck. He has catchy singles and a few hardcore songs on his albums. I don't like him but you can still be a ::)real::) hip hop head if you like him because I see ::)real::) hip hop fans liking 50 Cent, Loon, Fabolous, etc. who are pretty much the same type of rapper. To me they all have some good songs from time to time.
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lol.. i never like Ja-rule... i think i even made a thread about it.. sometime ago.. lol
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Ja is hip hop. He raps and uses harmony. His first album was good, the rest suck. He has catchy singles and a few hardcore songs on his albums. I don't like him but you can still be a ::)real::) hip hop head if you like him because I see ::)real::) hip hop fans liking 50 Cent, Loon, Fabolous, etc. who are pretty much the same type of rapper. To me they all have some good songs from time to time.
I can't see how you can classify his last 2 efforts as hiphop..
But then again.. some people classify Missy Elliott as hiphop..
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To me hip hop = rap music. I don't have this fictitious divider between the two. I just go by the original meaning of hip hop. So I'm saying Ja is rap music not R&B. I haven't listened to his too latest releases in their entirety so I don't know what they are like but I am sure he kept it balanced between pop tracks and hard tracks like he did with Rule 3:36 which was the last Ja album I have heard.
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this is a very interesting post indeed ;D
i like ja's music and 50's and em's but at the same time i listen to talib kweli, sly boogy, gangstarr, brotha lynch, techn9ne etc.....
ja's first album was dope, y'all gotta admit that, he wasnt no commercial act, his single "holla" was the only commercial song on that cd, the rest of it was raw and hardcore
HOWEVER since that album ja has gone away from that style, his last album was hmmmm cheesy, too poppy but i liked a few songs on that album
for the peeps interested in why i like ja's music, well his music is very bumpable, he has released some catchy songs, "Livin it Up" has a very dope beat and some of his other songs are dope too
he aint the best rapper but his rhymes arent as simple as the big tymers, in other words he could be worse
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Or more likely..
Some people on here likes (or pretends to like) Ja Rule for the simple fact that he disses 50 Cent, Eminem & Dr.Dre.
I know for a fact that people wouldn't cheer for Ja Rules music, if he didn't diss the mentioned..
I have trouble seeing a real hiphop-fan applauding "Mesmerize", "I'm real" or any other tracks Ja Rule have put out the last few years.
"The Wrap" and "The Wrap" remix is the exceptions, but that's not real tracks, because both uses other peoples beats..
But it might be a sign that Ja wants to get back to hiphop.. who knows.
ive said it before...ill say it again...i dont like ja...im just defendin him because everyone is gangin up on him...but ja is hip hop...he still makes hip hop records...with HARMONIZING incorporated...i guess..by ur definition..Bone Thugs arent hip hop either...right?
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I did like JA, but it became too much. I bought RUle 3:36 becasue it did have some decent tracks on there. Tracks like "6 Ft. Underground" made it worth the money I spent on the album. I then bought "Pain IS LOve." It definitly was a steo down fron his previous efforts, nad he'd come to make way too many R&B tracks. If he would've kept it balanced, I wouldn't have mind those tracks. Then, 50 came out, and I lost a lot of respect for JA when I found out how childish he was being over the whole beef at the start. Aroun late 2001, i heard about 50 and learned about the beef with JA, and how JA pretty much started the whole thing by being a damn fool about the whole situation. Finally, the 2Pac copying came to the point where it was no longer just subtle. It became so obvious that Stevie Wonder could see it. The LAst Temptation album was the last straw. JA wasn't even trying to make good music anymore, and the album cover and pictures where too much like something Pac would do. I just lost intrest in JA through overexposure, and not being able to make a better product. That's why me, and about 2 Million other people, stopped listening to No limit in 1999. THe product was overexposed, and it was redundant as hell. Nothing new and more of the same thing. Who knows what will happen with Ja now? We'll have to wait and see.
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Ohh word.. ja's older shit.. 3:36 and that other one that i can never say the name of is dope.. no doubt
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the same people who are talking about "real hiphop fans" not liking ja are the same ones who used to bump that type of shit hmm what a coincidence...if u say vvv isn't dope your playing yourself...