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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: Real American on July 27, 2004, 01:04:35 PM
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I say we do it.....
Why We Must Strike Iran Now
By New York Daily News
New York Daily News | July 27, 2004
Did we invade the wrong country? One of the lessons now being drawn from the 9/11 report is that Iran was the real threat. The Iraq War critics have a new line of attack: We should have done Iran instead.
Well, of course Iran is a threat. But how exactly would the critics have "done" Iran? Iran is a serious country with a serious army. Can you imagine the Iraq War critics actually supporting war with Iran?
If not war, what then? The Bush administration, having decided that invading one Axis-of-Evil country was about as much as the country can bear, has gone multilateral on Iran. Washington delegated the issue to a committee of three - the foreign ministers of Britain, France and Germany - that has been meeting with the Iranians to get them to shut down their nuclear program.
The result? They have been led by the nose. Time is of the essence, and the runaround that the Tehran Three have gotten from the mullahs has meant that we have lost at least nine months in doing anything to stop the Iranian nuclear program.
Iran instead of Iraq? The Iraq critics would have done nothing about either country. There would today be two major Islamic countries sitting on an ocean of oil, supporting terrorism and seeking weapons of mass destruction - instead of one.
Two years ago, there were five countries supporting terror and pursuing WMDs - two junior-leaguers, Libya and Syria, and the axis-of-evil varsity: Iraq, Iran and North Korea. The Bush administration has just eliminated two: Iraq, by direct military means, and Libya, by example and intimidation.
Syria is weak and deterred by Israel. North Korea, having gone nuclear, is untouchable. That leaves Iran. There are only two things that will stop the Iranian nuclear program: revolution from below or an attack on its nuclear facilities.
The country should be ripe for revolution. But the mullahs are very good at police-state tactics. The long-awaited revolution is not happening. Which makes the question of preemptive attack all the more urgent. Iran will go nuclear during the next presidential term. If nothing is done, a fanatical terrorist regime openly dedicated to the destruction of the "Great Satan" will have both nuclear weapons and the terrorists and missiles to deliver them. All that stands between us and that is either revolution or preemptive strike.
Both of which, by the way, are far more likely to succeed with 146,000 American troops and highly sophisticated aircraft standing by just a few miles away - in Iraq.
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Well we could easily defeat iran, but the problem is this.
Who is going to believe the bush administration. "Well we were wrong about iraq, but were telling the truth now."
Two wars, 1 right after another, wont go over well with the world, no matter how much of a threat iran is.
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So according to the first paragraph, "We fucked up by attacking Iraq, so let's go after Iran"?
And I like how the article makes Iran out to be an extremely urgent threat, just like the government did for Iraq.
I don't buy it and will not support it.
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slayer, i commend you on being a moron with a great mastery of the Smiley arts
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Well we could easily defeat iran, but the problem is this.
Who is going to believe the bush administration. "Well we were wrong about iraq, but were telling the truth now."
Two wars, 1 right after another, wont go over well with the world, no matter how much of a threat iran is.
Who gives a fuck if knowone is gunna believe the Bush adminsitraiton. He knows he doing something right, which has been proven and if the world dont like to bad.
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Well we could easily defeat iran, but the problem is this.
Who is going to believe the bush administration. "Well we were wrong about iraq, but were telling the truth now."
Two wars, 1 right after another, wont go over well with the world, no matter how much of a threat iran is.
Who gives a fuck if knowone is gunna believe the Bush adminsitraiton. He knows he doing something right, which has been proven and if the world dont like to bad.
That was something a lot of people were saying when the Administration was pushing hard to attack Iraq.
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That was something a lot of people were saying when the Administration was pushing hard to attack Iraq.
Yes, but that time it wasnt proven that Iraq has nuclear capabilities. Iran has it, and we know. Also they have ties to terriost groups like Al Quiada that was responsible for 9/11.
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slayer, i commend you on being a moron with a great mastery of the Smiley arts
lmao
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I say we do it.....
yea? go join the fuckin army..walk bitch!
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why not nuke the whole middle east wile were at it
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why are you ppl so fuckin' evil? I dont get it. Why killing ppl of a country that has never done shit to you?
Im not even argue why it's unjustified and pure evilness, since as I read your posts, yall prolly even know that, which is even more shocking.
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why are you ppl so fuckin' evil? I dont get it. Why killing ppl of a country that has never done shit to you?
Im not even argue why it's unjustified and pure evilness, since as I read your posts, yall prolly even know that, which is even more shocking.
the same thing could be said for both sides
why did terrorists crash planes into they WTC? those people never went over and killed people in the middle east
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why are you ppl so fuckin' evil? I dont get it. Why killing ppl of a country that has never done shit to you?
Im not even argue why it's unjustified and pure evilness, since as I read your posts, yall prolly even know that, which is even more shocking.
the same thing could be said for both sides
why did terrorists crash planes into they WTC? those people never went over and killed people in the middle east
but the country they represented fucked things up, as you remember, noone said shit when you attacked Afghanistan, but Iraq and Iran ... that's like arab terrorists crashing planes into Iceland. Im not saying 9/11 was right either, and if I was to talk to terrorists on this board I would tell them that believe me, but right now I talk to ppl who are looking forward to genocide in the purest of its form and even KNOW how unjustified and fucked up it is and still like it, and I can hardly believe what I read in this thread.
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why are you ppl so fuckin' evil? I dont get it. Why killing ppl of a country that has never done shit to you?
Im not even argue why it's unjustified and pure evilness, since as I read your posts, yall prolly even know that, which is even more shocking.
the same thing could be said for both sides
why did terrorists crash planes into they WTC? those people never went over and killed people in the middle east
but the country they represented fucked things up, as you remember, noone said shit when you attack Afghanistan, but Iraq and Iran ... that's like arab terrorists crashing planes into Iceland
how so? last time i checked you guys were complaining how we helped all the terrorists in afghanistan if we were so helpful to them, why would they bomb us in the first place?
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why are you ppl so fuckin' evil? I dont get it. Why killing ppl of a country that has never done shit to you?
Im not even argue why it's unjustified and pure evilness, since as I read your posts, yall prolly even know that, which is even more shocking.
the same thing could be said for both sides
why did terrorists crash planes into they WTC? those people never went over and killed people in the middle east
but the country they represented fucked things up, as you remember, noone said shit when you attack Afghanistan, but Iraq and Iran ... that's like arab terrorists crashing planes into Iceland
how so? last time i checked you guys were complaining how we helped all the terrorists in afghanistan if we were so helpful to them, why would they bomb us in the first place?
lol, for the other board users: he's referring to the US training bin laden and stuff.. arent you?
talking about trying to wash your hands clean in blood.. if you get that.. if not just ask me
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well i guess just some of you condone killing, but when it's done on more of a televised scale it's sich a horrid thing
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i swear bush is hitler
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Why killing ppl of a country that has never done shit to you?
ever heard of the Terrorists Attacks of September 11th 2001 which killed over 3,000 innocent people and injured over 30,000 people in New York and Washington. ::)
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Why killing ppl of a country that has never done shit to you?
ever heard of the Terrorists Attacks of September 11th 2001 which killed over 3,000 innocent people and injured over 30,000 people in New York and Washington. ::)
for some people that's ok because we send money to Israel ::)
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Iraq borders Iran, that's in America's advantage. I think that if America invades another country they're gonna be invading Syria and Iran at the same time.
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Why killing ppl of a country that has never done shit to you?
ever heard of the Terrorists Attacks of September 11th 2001 which killed over 3,000 innocent people and injured over 30,000 people in New York and Washington. ::)
::) Yes... As if it were the country, as a whole, that sent out those attacks.
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ever heard of the Terrorists Attacks of September 11th 2001 which killed over 3,000 innocent people and injured over 30,000 people in New York and Washington. ::)
yea and IRAN had SO MUCH to do wit that.
IRAN is nothin like these other arab countries U see on TV. America is juss afraid of the power that IRAN has, they can't take it. Plus, they will have more oil in their possession if they take over. So they figure why not? all these so called lil reasons 2 invade they are bringin up NOW is bogus.
"I say we do it"
^SHUT THA FUC UP AND DIE SLOW.
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ever heard of the Terrorists Attacks of September 11th 2001 which killed over 3,000 innocent people and injured over 30,000 people in New York and Washington. ::)
yea and IRAN had SO MUCH to do wit that.
IRAN is nothin like these other arab countries U see on TV. America is juss afraid of the power that IRAN has, they can't take it. Plus, they will have more oil in their possession if they take over. So they figure why not? all these so called lil reasons 2 invade they are bringin up NOW is bogus.
"I say we do it"
^SHUT THA FUC UP AND DIE SLOW.
lol and exactly what kind of power does iran have? they will be wiped out in less than a month if the US were to invade
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ever heard of the Terrorists Attacks of September 11th 2001 which killed over 3,000 innocent people and injured over 30,000 people in New York and Washington. ::)
yea and IRAN had SO MUCH to do wit that.
IRAN is nothin like these other arab countries U see on TV. America is juss afraid of the power that IRAN has, they can't take it. Plus, they will have more oil in their possession if they take over. So they figure why not? all these so called lil reasons 2 invade they are bringin up NOW is bogus.
"I say we do it"
^SHUT THA FUC UP AND DIE SLOW.
lol and exactly what kind of power does iran have? they will be wiped out in less than a month if the US were to invade
If I were to bet I'd say 5 weeks :P They whooped Iraq's ass in 3 weeks. Iran is how many times as big? 3? ???
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that shit's still funny..... a military expert from europe said that all the countries in Europe can't match the US's military......and here comes ROD thinking that america is afraid of them....lol
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Why killing ppl of a country that has never done shit to you?
ever heard of the Terrorists Attacks of September 11th 2001 which killed over 3,000 innocent people and injured over 30,000 people in New York and Washington. ::)
lol, I just looked at your profile. youre 14 years old, explains A LOT, and I wont argue with you anymore. all Im just gonna say now is youre a racist fuck, and this comment proves it ^ since youre just generalized arabs, by your thoughts it's like bin laden = arab --> let's whipe out all arabian countries. but who gives a shit, youre 14, no way Id talk to a dumb 14 year old in real life, so what's the point in doing it here.
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Iraq borders Iran, that's in America's advantage. I think that if America invades another country they're gonna be invading Syria and Iran at the same time.
dont you hypocritical ass ever dare to claim to be neutral ever again
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Why killing ppl of a country that has never done shit to you?
ever heard of the Terrorists Attacks of September 11th 2001 which killed over 3,000 innocent people and injured over 30,000 people in New York and Washington. ::)
lol, I just looked at your profile. youre 14 years old, explains A LOT, and I wont argue with you anymore. all Im just gonna say now is youre a racist fuck, and this comment proves it ^ since youre just generalized arabs, by your thoughts it's like bin laden = arab --> let's whipe out all arabian countries. but who gives a shit, youre 14, no way Id talk to a dumb 14 year old in real life, so what's the point in doing it here.
lol
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lol, I just looked at your profile. youre 14 years old, explains A LOT, and I wont argue with you anymore. all Im just gonna say now is youre a racist fuck, and this comment proves it ^ since youre just generalized arabs, by your thoughts it's like bin laden = arab --> let's whipe out all arabian countries. but who gives a shit, youre 14, no way Id talk to a dumb 14 year old in real life, so what's the point in doing it here.
Show me where I generalized arabs. Also 50% of people their suport Bin Laden.
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Iraq borders Iran, that's in America's advantage. I think that if America invades another country they're gonna be invading Syria and Iran at the same time.
dont you hypocritical ass ever dare to claim to be neutral ever again
Why did you make that comment?
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LOL @ this thread.
"Hey guys, what country should we do next ?"
"Uhh, something easy, that we are guaranteed to win"
"Hey, what about Iran ?"
"Sounds good, we'll easily do 'em"
Some people should be banned from ToT, or at least have a age limit.. :-X
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One should do backround history studying on the US's involvement in Iran's politics to see why Iran hates them so much.
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That unimaginable ignorance.
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LOL dude just playing around
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well, I don't mind americans saying "lets invade iran"...IF THEY'RE IN THE FUCKING ARMY.
(wrote iraq instead of iran..ima a dumbass :-\)
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Iraq borders Iran, that's in America's advantage. I think that if America invades another country they're gonna be invading Syria and Iran at the same time.
dont you hypocritical ass ever dare to claim to be neutral ever again
Why did you make that comment?
over all your posts regarding such issues it becomes clear that you dont give a shit about those middle-eastern countries and those palestinians. although you sometimes claim to be neutral, which sucks. other ppl admit they are damn right wing (trauma, engel...), or in favor of jews (nik), or in favor of muslims (infinite, tech) because of their heritage, or that they dont know shit about all this (machiavelli).
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I never denied I am right winged and what's wrong with having a right winged opinion? Does it matter to you I didn't give my opinion on this yet?
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I never denied I am right winged and what's wrong with having a right winged opinion? Does it matter to you I didn't give my opinion on this yet?
aight I never heard that stuff comin outta your mouth before. Glad you admit it finally. It's coo'.
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whatever... but is there something wrong with being right winged?
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LOL @ some of yall thinking invading Iran is just like invading Iraq
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LOL @ some of yall thinking invading Iran is just like invading Iraq
exactly....they don't have the knowledge....and most likely don't know much about the history.
One should do backround history studying on the US's involvement in Iran's politics to see why Iran hates them so much.
^exactly....but here's the thing, the people of Iran don't hate America, they will do anything to come live out here, they just hate how the government has been operating in the past. They hate their own government also, ever since the Shah was put out of power, they been trying to make movements, but it's hard, U have like 80 million people out there, U can't revolt just like that, it takes major organization, but they have been doing their thing, the college students out there are a major factor, something like 60% of people out there is under 25. My cuzzins out there tell me how the rules and regulations have softened over the years, women no longer have to cover themselves as much, and I remember back in the days, you would go to jail just for wearing sun glasses or anything that would classified as 'cool', none of that is around no more. My cuzzins tell me some people even be sporting doo rags out there nowadays instead of just a shirt around the head. They be throwin parties and shit, not no bullshit either, they be bumpin 2pac out there for god's sake. It's nothing like other Arabic countries, they have a HUGE potential to be considered a MODERN country. But what stops that? The muthafucin Mullahs and tha punk muthafucaz controlling the government. I would more than happy if America puts those muthafucaz out of power, BUT....1st come up wit a legit reason to go out there, and 2nd find a way to defeat them without killin 20,000 more innocent civilians. And have an actual agenda, present it to the public, this isn't IRAQ, U can't set up a puppet out there and think U own the place. The shit will erupt. When I say America is afraid of Iran, I didn't mean WAR-wise, ofcourse America will take em out if it was full on battle. What I was trying to say was Iran is a major factor in the middle east and America is aware of that, dats why they are finding BOGUS ass reasons to get @ them. If they take Iran, they pretty much OWN the middle east. But U gotta go at this the RIGHT way. Bush doesn't understand that, he juss wanna take over and cash in more checks. He doesn't have no real agenda. Kerry CLAIMS he has better ways to fight this war. U figure it out.............
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I LOVE IT!, moron we wiped out iraq in 3 weeks, ya the regime but u sitll got an average of 3 americans dieing a day to peasants who just deicded to pick up a gun cuz u wont leave there country. thats a damn shame. and go to IRan see how far it gets you, USA believes they have nuke capabilities. NEWS FLASH. they already have the weapons. there just waiting for USA to really threat so we can say ok go ahead btw we have our nukes. cuz if they admit to it now USA would push hard to cut off all there suppliers from Europe. and last time America supported IRaq to fight Iran, iran almost took over iraq instead. USA if afraid of IRan cuz of its Muslim Government that is a "disadvantage to USA" cuz they have no control over it, and they were afraid it would influence in Ira at that time. well now its about to happen again, the biggest Government leaders in Iraq are all for the same ogvernment Iran has so USA is still there trying to bring up the government as a democracy to beenfit them and they are afraid of Iran for it again. and Mach to further more prove ur ignorance Iran supports people involved with 9/11 attacks is abotu as 100% right as Sudaam supporting it. moron, bcuz the CIA could say sumtin like ya the terrorists went through Iran is funny cuz, we cant control our border problems with afghanistan...and to further more clarify this, its no wonder 80% of Afghanistan speaks Farsi (iranian language) and if USA has got a border problem with Iran, fix urs with mexico and cubans and haitians and such. USA is jus lookin for more exuses to take over countries to benefit them and CIA is looking for a way out of there mistake with Iraq. this is just another mistake. Bush already is leader of this country, why he wanna rule other countries now? its a damn shame, and all Iran supports and Aides is hezbollah in lebanon who sits on THEIR BORDER protecting there countries from the ISrealies who want that certian peice of the land. but America would fail to report the precise Iranian Aide to the hezbollah, funny isnt it.
BTW id like to further more apoligize for all my typo's and such cuz i just woke up and im to lazy to correct any of them. and i suck at typing =p
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LOL @ all the fools that have posted already thinking hey iran seems easy we'll wipe em out in 4.
YEAH RIGHT, Iran is in the top 10 militaries in the WORLD, Iraq barely had one,lol Sadaam had to call his brother in law to come fight with fatigues. Iran is more stable than any of you think. Another Iraq? NO, Iraq is 98% desert, the top half of Iran just might remind some of a war we had not too long ago called Vietnam. Its not all desert in Iran, it has mountains,forests,jungles, much more cities than Iraq and the population is much much more. No one even in the Arab world liked Iraq, Iraq was a country with no ties or allies. Iran has plenty, just a while ago even the UK sold arms to Iran. You think they would send troops? Iran is a big no no.
Iraq being a country with not many allies still had the whole world protesting against the war. Now Iran, you think it could happen just like that? Now attacking Iran would really ignite another world war. Cause as soon as they know its on. they'd strike Israel at ease. and then israel would strike and then the whole world would go nuts. Cause you know as soon as that would happen, countries like north korea, russia, turkey, germany, all those fuckers would get involved.
America isn't afriad? america should be afraid cause you know theres a line and the world is just sitting back and taking shit, you know their gonna snap. and if the world does snap, it won't be to America's advantage.
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YEAH RIGHT, Iran is in the top 10 militaries in the WORLD, Iraq barely had one,lol Sadaam had to call his brother in law to come fight with fatigues. Iran is more stable than any of you think. Another Iraq? NO, Iraq is 98% desert, the top half of Iran just might remind some of a war we had not too long ago called Vietnam. Its not all desert in Iran, it has mountains,forests,jungles, much more cities than Iraq and the population is much much more. No one even in the Arab world liked Iraq, Iraq was a country with no ties or allies. Iran has plenty, just a while ago even the UK sold arms to Iran. You think they would send troops? Iran is a big no no.
Man your taliking about the United Statesof America hear. We have best Militarty in the world. We have improved out military alot since the 60s. Better technology, resources,weapons, ect...It would be better if it was jungle. US troops mainly train in jungle and mountains. Also the main fighting would be in the major cities that have flat terrain like Tehran
and if it gets bad, then we allways have to option of nukes ;)
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its not about just Iran vs US, the world isnt going to sit out on this one. Read my post again, the whole terrain thing was just 1 of the many things I mentioned. Shits gonna get set off. WWIII is gonna be comin to a city near you if this happens
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its not about just Iran vs US, the world isnt going to sit out on this one. Read my post again, the whole terrain thing was just 1 of the many things I mentioned. Shits gonna get set off. WWIII is gonna be comin to a city near you if this happens
K i read it, maybe your right. But the problem is, is that many countries are enemys with Iran including, Isreal, Pakistan, Iraq, Russia, Turkey, Tezvakistan, ect.....
Also why would north Korea get involved
BTW...I do think wwIII is aproching.
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I do not support any war with Iran, or any other middle east country minding their own damn business. They have a nuclear weapons program...so what? So do we. So does UK, France, Germany, Russia, China, India, and Pakistan. Are we gonna start a war with them? Fuck no.
True, I did support the Iraq war at first...but then I woke up. Iraq has no WMD, never had WMD, nor will they ever have WMD's. If Iran wants WMD, fine...let em is what I say. If they use those WMD, THEN we start a war with them...but not now.
However, I honestly don't think the world would (or could for that matter) do much about it. Do you honestly think if America invaded Iran that the rest of the world would declare war on America? I sure as hell dont. It would take a huge combining of forces and resources to stop America. But that WILL NOT happen under any circumstances, because the world is too civilized and diplomatic for another world-scale war to break out.
Face it people, World War III WILL NOT HAPPEN
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Iraq is dead and Russia is on good terms with Iran, who do you think is helping Iran with their nuclear system, didnt you ever read the articles about the US telling russia to back off? this was more back in 01-02. North Korea is just dying for a reason to launch one at the US, you know they'd want to get involved. Israel of course would get involved but their bassicly the U.S.'s major station in the middle east, like the right testicle of the US. Pakistan I dont think would get involved, their shaky. Either way the world WILL get involved if this shit went down, and if Europe gets involved which they would...Its over....
To Artemis... No they might not attack the US for invading Iran, but I bet many countries will support Iran and then the US will threaten those helping and that could get others involved. It can twist up is so many ways, its not really predictable. WWIII is very possible IMO
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However, I honestly don't think the world would (or could for that matter) do much about it. Do you honestly think if America invaded Iran that the rest of the world would declare war on America? I sure as hell dont. It would take a huge combining of forces and resources to stop America. But that WILL NOT happen under any circumstances, because the world is too civilized and diplomatic for another world-scale war to break out.
Face it people, World War III WILL NOT HAPPEN
"The World is too civilized and diplomatic" What do you call those extrme terriosts who cut be peoples heads off and crash planes into buildings? the fact is that, not all of the World is civilized.
I think WWIII will be about religion....
Jews and Christans vs Muslims
which will result in the comming of Christ.
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To Artemis... No they might not attack the US for invading Iran, but I bet many countries will support Iran and then the US will threaten those helping and that could get others involved. It can twist up is so many ways, its not really predictable. WWIII is very possible IMO
Theres the problem. I honestly believe that if enough countries (Russia, UK, France, Germany, China, etc) backed Iran, Bush and the US would back down immediately. Bush has been criticized and made fun of for being a little "slow"...but comeon, he's not that fucking dumb. If World War 3 did start, I really don't believe it would be over Iran. Besides, like I said before, the world is too diplomatic now. NOONE (except maybe US) truely wants a war, and EVERYONE (except maybe, once again, US) would take as many steps needed and try as hard as possible to avoid war.
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However, I honestly don't think the world would (or could for that matter) do much about it. Do you honestly think if America invaded Iran that the rest of the world would declare war on America? I sure as hell dont. It would take a huge combining of forces and resources to stop America. But that WILL NOT happen under any circumstances, because the world is too civilized and diplomatic for another world-scale war to break out.
Face it people, World War III WILL NOT HAPPEN
"The World is too civilized and diplomatic" What do you call those extrme terriosts who cut be peoples heads off and crash planes into buildings? the fact is that, not all of the World is civilized.
I'm talking about the major nations in the security council of the UN...UK, Germany, Russia, France, China. There is a world beyond the Middle East, you know.
Coming of the Christ? Whoa man...easy there cowboy.
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Well if China got in a war, eveyone would be fucked...LoL
No i really think that sooner or later Christ is gunna put end to all this turmoil and end it
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No i really think that sooner or later Christ is gunna put end to all this turmoil and end it
And you call those terrorists in the Middle East extremists
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it's funny how people bring up the current deaths in Iraq to show weakness of the American military..... the war in iraq is over, we are now rebuilding and safeguarding the place....the WAR was a complete success
and lastly
Top Ten By Combat Power
United States
China
Israel
India
Russia
Korea, South
Korea, North
United Kingdom
Turkey
Pakistan
The most unusual entry here is Israel. But this is because Israel is one of the few nations to have a reserve army that can be mobilized for action more quickly than most countries can get their active duties into shape for combat. The mobilized Israeli armed forces number over half a million troops. In addition, the Israelis have world class equipment and weapons, as well as exceptional intangibles. The downsize of this is that mobilizing its armed forces also cripples the Israeli economy. Under these conditions, Israel must conduct a war that ends within a few months. After that, supplying the armed forces becomes difficult and actual combat power begins to decline.
The other nations in the top ten have large armed forces that are well equipped and trained, at least compared to most nations farther down on the list. Britain抯 armed forces, like Israel抯, are better equipped, trained and more experienced than most. Turkey benefits from having a strong military tradition and excellent leadership at the small unit level, as well as good combat training.
Overall, the U.S. combat power is about three times that of second place China, and ten times that of tenth place Pakistan. But another modifying factor is how you plan to use that combat power. Wars are not fought in a vacuum, but in places that often inconvenient places for one side. Most armed forces are optimized for fighting on their own borders; for defending the homeland. Only the United States is capable of quickly moving lots of combat power to anywhere on the planet. Moreover, given a few months, the United States can put enough combat power just about anywhere, and become the major military force in that neighborhood. Countries like Britain and France can move some forces to just about anywhere on the planet. But no one can put forces anywhere quite like the United States.
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i like that last paragraph
our military is 3x's stronger than that of china's
plus Israel, south korea, and the UK are usually on our sides
along with the maybe's; russia, pakistan
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Word to that shit!
China is only good beacuse it has so many people. There tehnology i decent.
Top US Allies - I got this from a website
1. UK
2. Isreal
3. Canada
4. Austrailia
5. South Korea
6. Italy
7. Pakistan
8.Turkey
9.Russia
10. Germany
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i've said it dozens of times before, china has the largest army....it beats all other armies by sheer numbers alone.....but you only have to be afraid if you live on their land mass
most of their navy was given to them by russia after WW2....their navy is highly undermanned and undertrained.... so without transportation of these soldiers, US doesn't have to worry about the army at all...
oh and another thing i found interesting was this article about the russian submarine that sank a few years ago during training called the Kursk...
the reason the russians didn't want anyone to help was because they had top secret technology aboard the sub...Russia doesn't have the money to spend on technology like the US does so just imagine all the Top Secret things the US has ;)
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LOL @ all the fools that have posted already thinking hey iran seems easy we'll wipe em out in 4.
YEAH RIGHT, Iran is in the top 10 militaries in the WORLD, Iraq barely had one,lol Sadaam had to call his brother in law to come fight with fatigues. Iran is more stable than any of you think. Another Iraq? NO, Iraq is 98% desert, the top half of Iran just might remind some of a war we had not too long ago called Vietnam. Its not all desert in Iran, it has mountains,forests,jungles, much more cities than Iraq and the population is much much more. No one even in the Arab world liked Iraq, Iraq was a country with no ties or allies. Iran has plenty, just a while ago even the UK sold arms to Iran. You think they would send troops? Iran is a big no no.
Iraq being a country with not many allies still had the whole world protesting against the war. Now Iran, you think it could happen just like that? Now attacking Iran would really ignite another world war. Cause as soon as they know its on. they'd strike Israel at ease. and then israel would strike and then the whole world would go nuts. Cause you know as soon as that would happen, countries like north korea, russia, turkey, germany, all those fuckers would get involved.
America isn't afriad? america should be afraid cause you know theres a line and the world is just sitting back and taking shit, you know their gonna snap. and if the world does snap, it won't be to America's advantage.
exactly I hate when people stereotype IRAN, as a wasteland that has no buildings and some actually think its all sand and all muslims, when in reality there are people there just like us, and many of them who are fighting for there rights which most of you probabbly dont know how hard people in iran are working to get rid of the stupid mullahs and them for messing up the democracy and messing up all the people in irans life...thats why I want to quote Rod
^exactly....but here's the thing, the people of Iran don't hate America, they will do anything to come live out here, they just hate how the government has been operating in the past. They hate their own government also, ever since the Shah was put out of power, they been trying to make movements, but it's hard, U have like 80 million people out there, U can't revolt just like that, it takes major organization, but they have been doing their thing, the college students out there are a major factor, something like 60% of people out there is under 25. My cuzzins out there tell me how the rules and regulations have softened over the years, women no longer have to cover themselves as much, and I remember back in the days, you would go to jail just for wearing sun glasses or anything that would classified as 'cool', none of that is around no more. My cuzzins tell me some people even be sporting doo rags out there nowadays instead of just a shirt around the head. They be throwin parties and shit, not no bullshit either, they be bumpin 2pac out there for god's sake. It's nothing like other Arabic countries, they have a HUGE potential to be considered a MODERN country. But what stops that? The muthafucin Mullahs and tha punk muthafucaz controlling the government. I would more than happy if America puts those muthafucaz out of power, BUT....1st come up wit a legit reason to go out there, and 2nd find a way to defeat them without killin 20,000 more innocent civilians. And have an actual agenda, present it to the public, this isn't IRAQ, U can't set up a puppet out there and think U own the place. The shit will erupt. When I say America is afraid of Iran, I didn't mean WAR-wise, ofcourse America will take em out if it was full on battle. What I was trying to say was Iran is a major factor in the middle east and America is aware of that, dats why they are finding BOGUS ass reasons to get @ them. If they take Iran, they pretty much OWN the middle east. But U gotta go at this the RIGHT way. Bush doesn't understand that, he juss wanna take over and cash in more checks. He doesn't have no real agenda. Kerry CLAIMS he has better ways to fight this war. U figure it out.............
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just in case you dont know.. Christ/God dont exist.
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No i really think that sooner or later Christ is gunna put end to all this turmoil and end it
And you call those terrorists in the Middle East extremists
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just in case you dont know.. Christ/God dont exist.
And how the fuck do you know? You got proof?
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just in case you dont know.. Christ/God dont exist.
And how the fuck do you know? You got proof?
Let's turn it around. Do you got proof God does exist? No. End of discussion.
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Let's turn it around. Do you got proof God does exist? No. End of discussion.
Yes, the bible.
Do you have a book or something that says that God doesn't exist. Also if you think about it, how the fuck did everything get here. Big Bang? Ya, it might of but how did the Big Bang get their?
Now your probably gonna say how did God get here? Well he never got here in the first place, he was always their. The human mind is to weak to comprehend God.
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I'm not gonna discuss why God doesn't exist. I did that too many times already, but I am gonna say that the Bible doesn't proof shit. It doesn't proof anything at all.
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Let's turn it around. Do you got proof God does exist? No. End of discussion.
Yes, the bible.
Do you have a book or something that says that God doesn't exist. Also if you think about it, how the fuck did everything get here. Big Bang? Ya, it might of but how did the Big Bang get their?
Now your probably gonna say how did God get here? Well he never got here in the first place, he was always their. The human mind is to weak to comprehend God.
mach ur ruining a way to show people how god exists, now your gonna make them think even more of how he doesnt exist...
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Cool im a 'G' ;D
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dont get off topic people
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i think USA is bluffing to see if they can get Iran to stop doing worth with Russia and other countries in europe who supply them with the nuclear subtances and such