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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: PLANT on November 07, 2008, 02:23:22 PM
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Bynum>Amare. you dont understand the game if you try saying this is an absurd statement.
...wow, that comment was thread worthy right there. The basketball genius has spoken!
I wont even try and say Shaq is still better than Bynum, but just so ya know....
SHAQ
12.0 PPG
8.6 RPG
0.6 APG
1.2 BPG
68.8% FG
BYNUM
8.2 PPG
9.2 RPG
1.0 APG
2.8 BPG
44.0% FG
pretty compable stats if you ask me. Bynum has the edge in blocks and a slight edge in rebounds. Shaq has the edge in points and a much better FG %.
I guess Shaq must be better than Amare too ???
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... :o ...
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LOLOL! :laugh: :laugh:
wow, didnt even realize that. I knew Shaq started off pretty good, but i had no idea hes puttin up equal numbers to the Rookie/Legend Andrew "King Of LA/NBA" Bynum. :P
i wonder how many other big men are puttin up stats like those, who are underlooked...
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LOLOL! :laugh: :laugh:
wow, didnt even realize that. I knew Shaq started off pretty good, but i had no idea hes puttin up equal numbers to the Rookie/Legend Andrew "King Of LA/NBA" Bynum. :P
i wonder how many other big men are puttin up stats like those, who are underlooked...
Luis Scola, Paul Milsap, Udonis Haslem, Andres Biedrins = the next Andrew Bynum
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As a Laker fan i wouldn't trade Bynum for Amare at the moment.
That's not absurd at all.
What's the problem tho'? Laker fans are happy about Bynum.
The Lakers have a 4-0 record.
We are happy.
You are happy (you don't have Bynum in your team).
It's all good.
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of course Laker fans are gonna say Bynum > Amare.
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Well Amare is a beast offensive wise and the 1st option on his team , Bynum is coming back from a 6-7 month injury , trying to find his rythm back and is on a very stacked team. When both players are at 100% , Amare has obviously the better offensive arsenal while Bynum has still to develop this aspect of his game but as of now his role is to be a defensive anchor and he's a much better than Amare at that .... Amare has easily the edge on the offensive end and Bynum has it on the defensive end ...
Regarding the stats , it's still way too early in the season for them to be reliable and I still think stats are very overrated i.e you can tell whatever you want if you choose the right stat ... that's why I prefer to compare players impact on their team , their abilities to change the outcome of a game rather than advancing stats ... at the end of the season , Amare stats will be more impressive than KG one , does it mean I will take Stoud over KG ? Hell no
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so what are you trying to say that Bynum is better than Amare? WTF....news flash! Bynum is not the reason the lakers are 4-0! Hes playing a good center roll for you guys but you have the league MVP running the show there incase you forgot. I dont know why you laker fans think Bynum is the next Wilt or something WTF
You guys did pretty fucking good without Bynum last year so I duno ....If he was THAT good then I think you woulda went for a shit once he went down!
Gasol>>>Bynum
Amare>>>>>>>>>>>Gasol
anyday
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how long has Bynum been in the league again? oh yeah and he's already better defensively lol. he has the potential to be a great one,especially now where there is a shortage of dominant big men. give him some time before makin comparisons.
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^^I agree man but the problem is NIK is already saying he is hands down better than Amare, its just plain stupid. It's so funny that NIK talks about Bynum like he is the next Wilt while for example when there is a guy like AL Jefferson who is so young and already so much better and more polished than Bynum and NIK never says anything about a player like that. Regardless of how good the team is, so far Bynum is averaging 8 points a game ok big deal, I mean as far as I'm concerned Andris Biedrins is WAY better than Bynum, I dont think it's even close, Bynum averages 8 points and 9 rebounds a game, Biedrins is averaging 16 points a game and 14 rebounds while shooting 58% from the field, how is Bynum better than Amare when he isnt even close to being on Biedrins level ???
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why do you guys get so riled up over what NIK says, as if it's the law?
you know he loves the attention
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why do you guys get so riled up over what NIK says, as if it's the law?
you know he loves the attention
just keepin the S&E section goin ;D we gota have shit to talk about in here
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To be real, this shit about Amare being a weak defender isn't fair. Playing in that D'antoni system ruined him, he was a decent defender before Mike's no defense policy took over. Bynum's defense is better but Amare's offensive game is so cold its not even comparable. If Amare could get his shot blocking and timing right it would be no contest.
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That nigga also said T-Mac > LeBron. How can anyone in their right mind ever take one ">" statement he makes seriously ever again?
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That nigga also said T-Mac > LeBron.
u know which thread that was in?
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That nigga also said T-Mac > LeBron.
u know which thread that was in?
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=180090.msg1852276#msg1852276
Classic.
Edit: Lol this is the reaction thread, just like this one is the reaction thread to his Bynum >>> Amare statement:
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=181070.0
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As a Laker fan i wouldn't trade Bynum for Amare at the moment.
That's not absurd at all.
What's the problem tho'? Laker fans are happy about Bynum.
The Lakers have a 4-0 record.
We are happy.
You are happy (you don't have Bynum in your team).
It's all good.
im sure your happy with him & he truly is a nice fit for your team, hes a good player too...
but Amare is head and shoulders better. ;)
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^Yeah, I'm also happy with how Brandon Bass is evolving. Does that mean jack shit? LOL
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Theres no possible way you guys dont already know that you cant take NIK seriously on any comparisons made between Laker players and any other players. His judgement is so blinded when it comes to this shit. You know when a retarded kid makes one of those loud outburtsts....and even though you hear, you try to pretend like you didnt? Same thing with NIK.
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Theres no possible way you guys dont already know that you cant take NIK seriously on any comparisons made between Laker players and any other players. His judgement is so blinded when it comes to this shit. You know when a retarded kid makes one of those loud outburtsts....and even though you hear, you try to pretend like you didnt? Same thing with NIK.
yeah real talk
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^Yeah, I'm also happy with how Brandon Bass is evolving. Does that mean jack shit? LOL
lol.
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I already made a thread about this myself a year ago...
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=163339.0
LOL@everyone acting like it's absurd to say Bynum is better when Bynum shitted all over Amare in their head-to-head matchups. Idiots act like Bynum wasn't leading the league in FG% last year before he got injured... just because he's averaging 6 shot attempts per game in the Lakers loaded offense doesn't mean he's any less of a player. You put Amare in Bynum's role and he wouldnt be averaging half of what he's averaging now, what don't you mutherfuckers get?
and Spice, don't even let me start with you. "Biedrins is way better than Bynum"? LMFAO!
Andrew Bynum & Andris Biedriens head-to-head stats:
DECEMBER 9, 2007:
Bynum=20 points, 11 rebounds, 3 assists, 5 blocks
Biedrins=7 points, 6 rebounds, 0 assists, 0 blocks
DECEMBER 14, 2007:
Bynum=17 points, 16 rebounds, 2 assits, 1 block
Biedrins=10 points, 11 rebounds, 1 assist, 2 blocks
LMFAO@that comparison. then people wonder how I question muthafuckaz basketball credibility.
and one last time, Amare & Bynum's head-to-head stats:
NOVEMBER 2ND, 2007:
Bynum=14 points, 13 rebounds, 3 assists
Amare=7 points, 1 rebounds, 0 assits
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/boxscore;_ylt=AqHY4PDk_JupFzlJVsNWdoMhPaB4?gid=2007110221
DECEMBER 25TH, 2007:
Bynum=28 points, 12 rebounds, 4 assists
Amare=19 points, 6 rebounds, 2 assits
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/boxscore;_ylt=Ap6_IW_gbgq.ztmmlPCPbNshPaB4?gid=2007122513
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As a Laker fan i wouldn't trade Bynum for Amare at the moment.
That's not absurd at all.
What's the problem tho'? Laker fans are happy about Bynum.
The Lakers have a 4-0 record.
We are happy.
You are happy (you don't have Bynum in your team).
It's all good.
im sure your happy with him & he truly is a nice fit for your team, hes a good player too...
but Amare is head and shoulders better. ;)
I don't know, man. If you want to put it this way ok, Amare is playing on a level Bynum still has to reach, so he is "better". Ok. But this is almost the same discussion we had about Steve Nash a couple of years ago, talking about his one-dimensional type of play. If you ask me, i'd rather have Derek Fisher in my team than Steve Nash. That probably doesn't mean Fisher is better than Nash (he clearly isn't), but that means Nash has a major gap in his game that doesn't make him perfect for every situation. Take a player like Kobe Bryant: he's the best player in the League cause he can fit in every team in the League, being the best offensive player in the League AND at the same time an All-Defensive type of defender. He doesn't have major gaps in his game. (i'm not dickriding Kobe. I think it's pretty obvious what i'm saying, but you can say the same things about Pierce, KG, Lebron, etc.. those type of players are "complete" and dominant for real, even if they swich teams and scenarios). Like i said, Amare imho can't play Center at all, and he's better as a Power Forward playing with a defensive/power Center (like Shaq). That way he can care about the offensive aspect of his game more, and the team can suffer less on defence. But if you put him as a Center playing against a real offensive Center, he really is embarassing. And i mean embarassing. So the comparision itself is wrong, cause they are two different type of players and they could play very well together (maybe they will, in the future, in the U.S.A. team). If you like those type of x >>>>>>>>>>>< y games go ahead. But i still keep Bynum over him, with no esitation. So that means something.
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of course Laker fans are gonna say Bynum > Amare.
So idiots and haters alike take what NIK says and think his attitude reflects all Laker fans.
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I wanna show you some other stats.
Against the Spurs, Amare scored 22 with 8 rebounds and............ Duncan outnumbered him scoring 32 on him, with 8 rebounds.
Against the Hornets, Amare scored 21 with 12 rebounds and.......... West scored 18 points with 7 rebounds.
Against the Trail Blazers, Amare scored 23 with 13 rebounds and.......... Aldrige scored 16 with 6 rebounds.
Against the Nets, Amare scored 14 with 5 rebounds and......... Yi outnumbered him scoring 15 with 8 rebounds.
Against the Pacers, Amare scored 49 with 11 rebounds and......... Murphy scored 12 points with 10 rebounds.
That means Amare's opponents are averaging 18.6 points and 7.8 rebounds. Too much. And if you don't take the last game in consideration, they are outscoring him :)
So what's the deal? He's a monster on the offensive end but his opponents outscored him till the last game when he destroyed the Pacers??
If you compare those stats to Bynum's opponents...
Against the Blazers, Bynum scored 8 with 3 rebounds and........... Oden scored 0 points with 5 rebounds (Pryzbilla replacing him scored just 4 points.. so i'll make 4 points for the stats)
Agaisnt the Clippers, Bynum scored 12 with 9 rebounds and......... Kaman scored 8 points with 5 rebounds
Against the Nuggets, Bynum scored 4 with 9 rebounds and......... Nenč scored 8 points with 5 rebounds
Against the Clippers, Bynum scored 9 with 17 rebounds and......... Kaman scored 6 with 11 rebounds
That means Bynum's opponents are averaging 6.5 points and 6.5 rebounds.
Get it?
Bynum is playing an excellent defence and he's not asking the ball on offence. Amare is scoring crazy but so are doing his opponents. Plus Bynum is averaging 2.75 blocks per game against Amare's 1 block per game, and Bynum is averaging 1.50 TO per game against Amare's 2.0 per game.
P.S. Yeah i know Lakers didn't met the Hornets and the Spurs yet, but you compared the stats for those 4-5 matches, and so did i. But you know we can repeat this "game" later in the season and you know i'll still have a legit point.
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I love how stats don't mean shit till it comes time for you to defend Bynum ;)
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As a Laker fan i wouldn't trade Bynum for Amare at the moment.
That's not absurd at all.
What's the problem tho'? Laker fans are happy about Bynum.
The Lakers have a 4-0 record.
We are happy.
You are happy (you don't have Bynum in your team).
It's all good.
im sure your happy with him & he truly is a nice fit for your team, hes a good player too...
but Amare is head and shoulders better. ;)
I don't know, man. If you want to put it this way ok, Amare is playing on a level Bynum still has to reach, so he is "better". Ok. But this is almost the same discussion we had about Steve Nash a couple of years ago, talking about his one-dimensional type of play. If you ask me, i'd rather have Derek Fisher in my team than Steve Nash. That probably doesn't mean Fisher is better than Nash (he clearly isn't), but that means Nash has a major gap in his game that doesn't make him perfect for every situation. Take a player like Kobe Bryant: he's the best player in the League cause he can fit in every team in the League, being the best offensive player in the League AND at the same time an All-Defensive type of defender. He doesn't have major gaps in his game. (i'm not dickriding Kobe. I think it's pretty obvious what i'm saying, but you can say the same things about Pierce, KG, Lebron, etc.. those type of players are "complete" and dominant for real, even if they swich teams and scenarios). Like i said, Amare imho can't play Center at all, and he's better as a Power Forward playing with a defensive/power Center (like Shaq). That way he can care about the offensive aspect of his game more, and the team can suffer less on defence. But if you put him as a Center playing against a real offensive Center, he really is embarassing. And i mean embarassing. So the comparision itself is wrong, cause they are two different type of players and they could play very well together (maybe they will, in the future, in the U.S.A. team). If you like those type of x >>>>>>>>>>>< y games go ahead. But i still keep Bynum over him, with no esitation. So that means something.
i feel what your sayin, but thats just how it is. some people just fit in better. like i think Iverson is just better than Billups (hands down). but i think Billups was a better fit for Detroit, therefore the trade was bad on the Pistons part...but Iverson is still the better player.
the Lakers have the most talent in the league, so you dont need more offense & Bynum might be the better fit. but to a regular/below average team (Knicks, Nets, couple other East teams :P) & they had to take Bynum or Amare, there takin Amare all day everyday.
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Maybe with simple words it will work : Amare is WAY better than Bynum on the offensive end so if u need scoring of course you will go with Amare... but some B-Balls fans as Antonio and me prefer complete players than one-dimensional ones ... AND as of now the Lakers need more a Bynum type of player than Amare .... as Chamilitary Click said if u need a 1st option on a wack team , Amare is a no brainer over Bynum
Spice : Briedrins is putting some impressive numbers I agree with this but again this is just after 5 games and the Warriors need him to score and rbs crazy coz he's the only solid interior presence for the team ...
Another example : the Spurs needs TP to score a lot of points to stay in the game in Gino absence , Duncan needs to score near 30 a game aswell ... TP leads the NBA in scoring and Tim is not far behind , does that mean they are better scorers than Kobe, Lebron , Wade ? hell no
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I love how stats don't mean shit till it comes time for you to defend Bynum ;)
I didn't use stats to express my opinion about them. But since i know you americans loves to refers to them..... i used the same language ;D
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As a Laker fan i wouldn't trade Bynum for Amare at the moment.
That's not absurd at all.
What's the problem tho'? Laker fans are happy about Bynum.
The Lakers have a 4-0 record.
We are happy.
You are happy (you don't have Bynum in your team).
It's all good.
im sure your happy with him & he truly is a nice fit for your team, hes a good player too...
but Amare is head and shoulders better. ;)
I don't know, man. If you want to put it this way ok, Amare is playing on a level Bynum still has to reach, so he is "better". Ok. But this is almost the same discussion we had about Steve Nash a couple of years ago, talking about his one-dimensional type of play. If you ask me, i'd rather have Derek Fisher in my team than Steve Nash. That probably doesn't mean Fisher is better than Nash (he clearly isn't), but that means Nash has a major gap in his game that doesn't make him perfect for every situation. Take a player like Kobe Bryant: he's the best player in the League cause he can fit in every team in the League, being the best offensive player in the League AND at the same time an All-Defensive type of defender. He doesn't have major gaps in his game. (i'm not dickriding Kobe. I think it's pretty obvious what i'm saying, but you can say the same things about Pierce, KG, Lebron, etc.. those type of players are "complete" and dominant for real, even if they swich teams and scenarios). Like i said, Amare imho can't play Center at all, and he's better as a Power Forward playing with a defensive/power Center (like Shaq). That way he can care about the offensive aspect of his game more, and the team can suffer less on defence. But if you put him as a Center playing against a real offensive Center, he really is embarassing. And i mean embarassing. So the comparision itself is wrong, cause they are two different type of players and they could play very well together (maybe they will, in the future, in the U.S.A. team). If you like those type of x >>>>>>>>>>>< y games go ahead. But i still keep Bynum over him, with no esitation. So that means something.
i feel what your sayin, but thats just how it is. some people just fit in better. like i think Iverson is just better than Billups (hands down). but i think Billups was a better fit for Detroit, therefore the trade was bad on the Pistons part...but Iverson is still the better player.
the Lakers have the most talent in the league, so you dont need more offense & Bynum might be the better fit. but to a regular/below average team (Knicks, Nets, couple other East teams :P) & they had to take Bynum or Amare, there takin Amare all day everyday.
Exactly. I'm not dickriding the Lakers. I just see things from my prospective. ;)
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Spice : Briedrins is putting some impressive numbers I agree with this but again this is just after 5 games and the Warriors need him to score and rbs crazy coz he's the only solid interior presence for the team ...
I've always thought Andris was going to be a very excellent player. In fact you can'f find a dozen of quotes of me saying he was as promising as Bynum (maybe NIK remembers that..). I'm honestly not surprised GSW signed him to a $ 62 millions contract, and i'm not surprised he's putting big numbers. Plus Andris is just 1 year older than Bynum, so he still has a lot of time to improve his game, and I think he will.
P.S. I'd rather have Biedrins than Amare, in those Lakers. Once again: it doesn't mean Biedrins is better, but he is clearly a better defender and he'd fit better in purple&gold.
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who cares..when doesnt NIK say something like this?
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so nik do you think bynum is better than dwight howard? and do you think bynum is better than yao ming? fuck it, do you think bynum is the best big man in the league?
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Have you guys read the opinions of other Laker fans in this forum or do you only care about NIK cause you love to have beef with him?
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Have you guys read the opinions of other Laker fans in this forum or do you only care about NIK cause you love to have beef with him?
well usually were talkin about a player, damn he played a great game. god hes awsome & NIK comes stormin through and says things like "ohhh Deron Williams? nah nah nah, Derek Fisher all day!" lol. i think he truly believes the starting 5 for the Lakers are the best 5 players at there postion lol.
and also, its because were not tryin to start beef threads, he just makes us start ones like this lol. in the OG Amare thread i said "Amare is the best big man in the fuckin league!" did i mean that? ehh. i mean Dwight, Bosh, Duncan, right up there with him & that i can understand, BUT BYNUM? hes good, but hes not at the level the guys i named are at, yet.
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only thing i would prefer bynum is because he doesn't wear those ugly ass glasses :P
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Have you guys read the opinions of other Laker fans in this forum or do you only care about NIK cause you love to have beef with him?
well usually were talkin about a player, damn he played a great game. god hes awsome & NIK comes stormin through and says things like "ohhh Deron Williams? nah nah nah, Derek Fisher all day!" lol. i think he truly believes the starting 5 for the Lakers are the best 5 players at there postion lol.
and also, its because were not tryin to start beef threads, he just makes us start ones like this lol. in the OG Amare thread i said "Amare is the best big man in the fuckin league!" did i mean that? ehh. i mean Dwight, Bosh, Duncan, right up there with him & that i can understand, BUT BYNUM? hes good, but hes not at the level the guys i named are at, yet.
I know NIK. I'm in this forum from 2001, maybe before (this is just the last account.. sometimes i loose passwords and shit and i make a new one, lol). But believe me you guys take this shit too personal. NIK is just one of the Laker fans in this board, he doesn't represent the Laker fans from all over the world, lol. Guys like wcsoldier and others (there are actually a few ones, but i have some problems remembering their names, lmao) deserves to be respected and those lame jokes about Laker fans needs to be stopped. I disagree with the statement J.O. >>>>> Bynum, but i don't go out making threads about SPICE, and i don't call all the Pacer fans stupid or dickryders. You feel me?
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I love how stats don't mean shit till it comes time for you to defend Bynum ;)
I didn't use stats to express my opinion about them. But since i know you americans loves to refers to them..... i used the same language ;D
I was talking to NIK. Everytime I've ever posted stats I always got his usual "you're a stat whore" or "stats don't mean shit". Then as soon as someone says something about Bynum he goes right to the stats from those 5-6 games from last season.
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Maybe with simple words it will work : Amare is WAY better than Bynum on the offensive end so if u need scoring of course you will go with Amare... but some B-Balls fans as Antonio and me prefer complete players than one-dimensional ones ... AND as of now the Lakers need more a Bynum type of player than Amare .... as Chamilitary Click said if u need a 1st option on a wack team , Amare is a no brainer over Bynum
Spice : Briedrins is putting some impressive numbers I agree with this but again this is just after 5 games and the Warriors need him to score and rbs crazy coz he's the only solid interior presence for the team ...
Another example : the Spurs needs TP to score a lot of points to stay in the game in Gino absence , Duncan needs to score near 30 a game aswell ... TP leads the NBA in scoring and Tim is not far behind , does that mean they are better scorers than Kobe, Lebron , Wade ? hell no
The point is, Amare is NOT way better on the offensive end...those stats he's putting up are good, but it doesn't prove much when all the offense is running through him. What is Amare better than Bynum at? Exploding. Everything else goes to Bynum...Bynum has better footwork, better back-to-the-basket game, better post moves. Amare scores the bulk of his points off of rebounds and lob passes. so the common misconception of Amare being a WAY better scorer is totally false when you take into account that Bynum is only shooting 6 shots a game and would be averging 20 points a game in a primary offensive role...but he's our defensive anchor and we have a gang of scorers, so Bynum is not gunna be running as much offense as Amare, which DOES NOT mean he's not as capable a scorer, get it? Keep in mind that Bynum was leading the leage in FG% before he got injured last season...muthafucka is efficient as hell. The center of the future...PeACe
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Have you guys read the opinions of other Laker fans in this forum or do you only care about NIK cause you love to have beef with him?
well usually were talkin about a player, damn he played a great game. god hes awsome & NIK comes stormin through and says things like "ohhh Deron Williams? nah nah nah, Derek Fisher all day!" lol. i think he truly believes the starting 5 for the Lakers are the best 5 players at there postion lol.
and also, its because were not tryin to start beef threads, he just makes us start ones like this lol. in the OG Amare thread i said "Amare is the best big man in the fuckin league!" did i mean that? ehh. i mean Dwight, Bosh, Duncan, right up there with him & that i can understand, BUT BYNUM? hes good, but hes not at the level the guys i named are at, yet.
you have no fuckin idea what you're talkin about.
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I love how stats don't mean shit till it comes time for you to defend Bynum ;)
I didn't use stats to express my opinion about them. But since i know you americans loves to refers to them..... i used the same language ;D
I was talking to NIK. Everytime I've ever posted stats I always got his usual "you're a stat whore" or "stats don't mean shit". Then as soon as someone says something about Bynum he goes right to the stats from those 5-6 games from last season.
HEAD-TO-HEAD STATS...theres a difference, son.
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Maybe with simple words it will work : Amare is WAY better than Bynum on the offensive end so if u need scoring of course you will go with Amare... but some B-Balls fans as Antonio and me prefer complete players than one-dimensional ones ... AND as of now the Lakers need more a Bynum type of player than Amare .... as Chamilitary Click said if u need a 1st option on a wack team , Amare is a no brainer over Bynum
Spice : Briedrins is putting some impressive numbers I agree with this but again this is just after 5 games and the Warriors need him to score and rbs crazy coz he's the only solid interior presence for the team ...
Another example : the Spurs needs TP to score a lot of points to stay in the game in Gino absence , Duncan needs to score near 30 a game aswell ... TP leads the NBA in scoring and Tim is not far behind , does that mean they are better scorers than Kobe, Lebron , Wade ? hell no
The point is, Amare is NOT way better on the offensive end...those stats he's putting up are good, but it doesn't prove much when all the offense is running through him. What is Amare better than Bynum at? Exploding. Everything else goes to Bynum...Bynum has better footwork, better back-to-the-basket game, better post moves. Amare scores the bulk of his points off of rebounds and lob passes. so the common misconception of Amare being a WAY better scorer is totally false when you take into account that Bynum is only shooting 6 shots a game and would be averging 20 points a game in a primary offensive role...but he's our defensive anchor and we have a gang of scorers, so Bynum is not gunna be running as much offense as Amare, which DOES NOT mean he's not as capable a scorer, get it? Keep in mind that Bynum was leading the leage in FG% before he got injured last season...muthafucka is efficient as hell. The center of the future...PeACe
so Bynum is better than Dwight Howard too? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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Have you guys read the opinions of other Laker fans in this forum or do you only care about NIK cause you love to have beef with him?
well usually were talkin about a player, damn he played a great game. god hes awsome & NIK comes stormin through and says things like "ohhh Deron Williams? nah nah nah, Derek Fisher all day!" lol. i think he truly believes the starting 5 for the Lakers are the best 5 players at there postion lol.
and also, its because were not tryin to start beef threads, he just makes us start ones like this lol. in the OG Amare thread i said "Amare is the best big man in the fuckin league!" did i mean that? ehh. i mean Dwight, Bosh, Duncan, right up there with him & that i can understand, BUT BYNUM? hes good, but hes not at the level the guys i named are at, yet.
you have no fuckin idea what you're talkin about.
lol, i find it funny that EVERYONE in the sports section has no idea what there talkin about when it comes to the NBA. :D
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Maybe with simple words it will work : Amare is WAY better than Bynum on the offensive end so if u need scoring of course you will go with Amare... but some B-Balls fans as Antonio and me prefer complete players than one-dimensional ones ... AND as of now the Lakers need more a Bynum type of player than Amare .... as Chamilitary Click said if u need a 1st option on a wack team , Amare is a no brainer over Bynum
Spice : Briedrins is putting some impressive numbers I agree with this but again this is just after 5 games and the Warriors need him to score and rbs crazy coz he's the only solid interior presence for the team ...
Another example : the Spurs needs TP to score a lot of points to stay in the game in Gino absence , Duncan needs to score near 30 a game aswell ... TP leads the NBA in scoring and Tim is not far behind , does that mean they are better scorers than Kobe, Lebron , Wade ? hell no
The point is, Amare is NOT way better on the offensive end...those stats he's putting up are good, but it doesn't prove much when all the offense is running through him. What is Amare better than Bynum at? Exploding. Everything else goes to Bynum...Bynum has better footwork, better back-to-the-basket game, better post moves. Amare scores the bulk of his points off of rebounds and lob passes. so the common misconception of Amare being a WAY better scorer is totally false when you take into account that Bynum is only shooting 6 shots a game and would be averging 20 points a game in a primary offensive role...but he's our defensive anchor and we have a gang of scorers, so Bynum is not gunna be running as much offense as Amare, which DOES NOT mean he's not as capable a scorer, get it? Keep in mind that Bynum was leading the leage in FG% before he got injured last season...muthafucka is efficient as hell. The center of the future...PeACe
so Bynum is better than Dwight Howard too? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
I think Dwight is as overrated as Amare, if not more...no way I'd trade Bynum for him.
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Have you guys read the opinions of other Laker fans in this forum or do you only care about NIK cause you love to have beef with him?
well usually were talkin about a player, damn he played a great game. god hes awsome & NIK comes stormin through and says things like "ohhh Deron Williams? nah nah nah, Derek Fisher all day!" lol. i think he truly believes the starting 5 for the Lakers are the best 5 players at there postion lol.
and also, its because were not tryin to start beef threads, he just makes us start ones like this lol. in the OG Amare thread i said "Amare is the best big man in the fuckin league!" did i mean that? ehh. i mean Dwight, Bosh, Duncan, right up there with him & that i can understand, BUT BYNUM? hes good, but hes not at the level the guys i named are at, yet.
you have no fuckin idea what you're talkin about.
lol, i find it funny that EVERYONE in the sports section has no idea what there talkin about when it comes to the NBA. :D
what are you talking about? you're the only one...LOL.
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Maybe with simple words it will work : Amare is WAY better than Bynum on the offensive end so if u need scoring of course you will go with Amare... but some B-Balls fans as Antonio and me prefer complete players than one-dimensional ones ... AND as of now the Lakers need more a Bynum type of player than Amare .... as Chamilitary Click said if u need a 1st option on a wack team , Amare is a no brainer over Bynum
Spice : Briedrins is putting some impressive numbers I agree with this but again this is just after 5 games and the Warriors need him to score and rbs crazy coz he's the only solid interior presence for the team ...
Another example : the Spurs needs TP to score a lot of points to stay in the game in Gino absence , Duncan needs to score near 30 a game aswell ... TP leads the NBA in scoring and Tim is not far behind , does that mean they are better scorers than Kobe, Lebron , Wade ? hell no
The point is, Amare is NOT way better on the offensive end...those stats he's putting up are good, but it doesn't prove much when all the offense is running through him. What is Amare better than Bynum at? Exploding. Everything else goes to Bynum...Bynum has better footwork, better back-to-the-basket game, better post moves. Amare scores the bulk of his points off of rebounds and lob passes. so the common misconception of Amare being a WAY better scorer is totally false when you take into account that Bynum is only shooting 6 shots a game and would be averging 20 points a game in a primary offensive role...but he's our defensive anchor and we have a gang of scorers, so Bynum is not gunna be running as much offense as Amare, which DOES NOT mean he's not as capable a scorer, get it? Keep in mind that Bynum was leading the leage in FG% before he got injured last season...muthafucka is efficient as hell. The center of the future...PeACe
so Bynum is better than Dwight Howard too? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
I think Dwight is as overrated as Amare, if not more...no way I'd trade Bynum for him.
LOL, Dwight averages 20 & 13!
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Maybe with simple words it will work : Amare is WAY better than Bynum on the offensive end so if u need scoring of course you will go with Amare... but some B-Balls fans as Antonio and me prefer complete players than one-dimensional ones ... AND as of now the Lakers need more a Bynum type of player than Amare .... as Chamilitary Click said if u need a 1st option on a wack team , Amare is a no brainer over Bynum
Spice : Briedrins is putting some impressive numbers I agree with this but again this is just after 5 games and the Warriors need him to score and rbs crazy coz he's the only solid interior presence for the team ...
Another example : the Spurs needs TP to score a lot of points to stay in the game in Gino absence , Duncan needs to score near 30 a game aswell ... TP leads the NBA in scoring and Tim is not far behind , does that mean they are better scorers than Kobe, Lebron , Wade ? hell no
The point is, Amare is NOT way better on the offensive end...those stats he's putting up are good, but it doesn't prove much when all the offense is running through him. What is Amare better than Bynum at? Exploding. Everything else goes to Bynum...Bynum has better footwork, better back-to-the-basket game, better post moves. Amare scores the bulk of his points off of rebounds and lob passes. so the common misconception of Amare being a WAY better scorer is totally false when you take into account that Bynum is only shooting 6 shots a game and would be averging 20 points a game in a primary offensive role...but he's our defensive anchor and we have a gang of scorers, so Bynum is not gunna be running as much offense as Amare, which DOES NOT mean he's not as capable a scorer, get it? Keep in mind that Bynum was leading the leage in FG% before he got injured last season...muthafucka is efficient as hell. The center of the future...PeACe
so Bynum is better than Dwight Howard too? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
I think Dwight is as overrated as Amare, if not more...no way I'd trade Bynum for him.
LOL, Dwight averages 20 & 13!
and how many attempts does Dwight average in comparison to Bynum? :D
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Maybe with simple words it will work : Amare is WAY better than Bynum on the offensive end so if u need scoring of course you will go with Amare... but some B-Balls fans as Antonio and me prefer complete players than one-dimensional ones ... AND as of now the Lakers need more a Bynum type of player than Amare .... as Chamilitary Click said if u need a 1st option on a wack team , Amare is a no brainer over Bynum
Spice : Briedrins is putting some impressive numbers I agree with this but again this is just after 5 games and the Warriors need him to score and rbs crazy coz he's the only solid interior presence for the team ...
Another example : the Spurs needs TP to score a lot of points to stay in the game in Gino absence , Duncan needs to score near 30 a game aswell ... TP leads the NBA in scoring and Tim is not far behind , does that mean they are better scorers than Kobe, Lebron , Wade ? hell no
The point is, Amare is NOT way better on the offensive end...those stats he's putting up are good, but it doesn't prove much when all the offense is running through him. What is Amare better than Bynum at? Exploding. Everything else goes to Bynum...Bynum has better footwork, better back-to-the-basket game, better post moves. Amare scores the bulk of his points off of rebounds and lob passes. so the common misconception of Amare being a WAY better scorer is totally false when you take into account that Bynum is only shooting 6 shots a game and would be averging 20 points a game in a primary offensive role...but he's our defensive anchor and we have a gang of scorers, so Bynum is not gunna be running as much offense as Amare, which DOES NOT mean he's not as capable a scorer, get it? Keep in mind that Bynum was leading the leage in FG% before he got injured last season...muthafucka is efficient as hell. The center of the future...PeACe
so Bynum is better than Dwight Howard too? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
I think Dwight is as overrated as Amare, if not more...no way I'd trade Bynum for him.
LOL, Dwight averages 20 & 13!
and how many attempts does Dwight average in comparison to Bynum? :D
well if Bynum was that good, they would try to get him takin 20 shots a game. :P
you also have 3 other great/good players that take shots.
but if Bynum was in Orlando he wouldnt fill Dwights shoes. Dwights so active, if Bynum tried that he would find himself on DL for the season. ;)
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Maybe with simple words it will work : Amare is WAY better than Bynum on the offensive end so if u need scoring of course you will go with Amare... but some B-Balls fans as Antonio and me prefer complete players than one-dimensional ones ... AND as of now the Lakers need more a Bynum type of player than Amare .... as Chamilitary Click said if u need a 1st option on a wack team , Amare is a no brainer over Bynum
Spice : Briedrins is putting some impressive numbers I agree with this but again this is just after 5 games and the Warriors need him to score and rbs crazy coz he's the only solid interior presence for the team ...
Another example : the Spurs needs TP to score a lot of points to stay in the game in Gino absence , Duncan needs to score near 30 a game aswell ... TP leads the NBA in scoring and Tim is not far behind , does that mean they are better scorers than Kobe, Lebron , Wade ? hell no
The point is, Amare is NOT way better on the offensive end...those stats he's putting up are good, but it doesn't prove much when all the offense is running through him. What is Amare better than Bynum at? Exploding. Everything else goes to Bynum...Bynum has better footwork, better back-to-the-basket game, better post moves. Amare scores the bulk of his points off of rebounds and lob passes. so the common misconception of Amare being a WAY better scorer is totally false when you take into account that Bynum is only shooting 6 shots a game and would be averging 20 points a game in a primary offensive role...but he's our defensive anchor and we have a gang of scorers, so Bynum is not gunna be running as much offense as Amare, which DOES NOT mean he's not as capable a scorer, get it? Keep in mind that Bynum was leading the leage in FG% before he got injured last season...muthafucka is efficient as hell. The center of the future...PeACe
so Bynum is better than Dwight Howard too? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
I think Dwight is as overrated as Amare, if not more...no way I'd trade Bynum for him.
LOL, Dwight averages 20 & 13!
and how many attempts does Dwight average in comparison to Bynum? :D
well if Bynum was that good, they would try to get him takin 20 shots a game. :P
you also have 3 other great/good players that take shots.
but if Bynum was in Orlando he wouldnt fill Dwights shoes. Dwights so active, if Bynum tried that he would find himself on DL for the season. ;)
Yea...20 shots a game on a team with Kobe, Gasol, Odom. That makes perfect sense. :laugh:
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Maybe with simple words it will work : Amare is WAY better than Bynum on the offensive end so if u need scoring of course you will go with Amare... but some B-Balls fans as Antonio and me prefer complete players than one-dimensional ones ... AND as of now the Lakers need more a Bynum type of player than Amare .... as Chamilitary Click said if u need a 1st option on a wack team , Amare is a no brainer over Bynum
Spice : Briedrins is putting some impressive numbers I agree with this but again this is just after 5 games and the Warriors need him to score and rbs crazy coz he's the only solid interior presence for the team ...
Another example : the Spurs needs TP to score a lot of points to stay in the game in Gino absence , Duncan needs to score near 30 a game aswell ... TP leads the NBA in scoring and Tim is not far behind , does that mean they are better scorers than Kobe, Lebron , Wade ? hell no
The point is, Amare is NOT way better on the offensive end...those stats he's putting up are good, but it doesn't prove much when all the offense is running through him. What is Amare better than Bynum at? Exploding. Everything else goes to Bynum...Bynum has better footwork, better back-to-the-basket game, better post moves. Amare scores the bulk of his points off of rebounds and lob passes. so the common misconception of Amare being a WAY better scorer is totally false when you take into account that Bynum is only shooting 6 shots a game and would be averging 20 points a game in a primary offensive role...but he's our defensive anchor and we have a gang of scorers, so Bynum is not gunna be running as much offense as Amare, which DOES NOT mean he's not as capable a scorer, get it? Keep in mind that Bynum was leading the leage in FG% before he got injured last season...muthafucka is efficient as hell. The center of the future...PeACe
so Bynum is better than Dwight Howard too? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
I think Dwight is as overrated as Amare, if not more...no way I'd trade Bynum for him.
LOL, Dwight averages 20 & 13!
and how many attempts does Dwight average in comparison to Bynum? :D
well if Bynum was that good, they would try to get him takin 20 shots a game. :P
The point of my previous OG topic was that he's playing so well as a teammate even if he ain't getting 20 shots a game.
20.2 Bryant
14.2 Fisher
10.5 Radmanovic
10.5 Gasol
9.0 Farmar
8.0 Ariza
8.0 Vujacic
7.5 Odom
6.7 Bynum
4.0 Mihm
1.7 Walton
1.6 Powell
^ This list right here (shots per game) is, along with a great new team defence Lakers is playing, the main reason why Lakers have a 4-0 record and looks unbeatable. We have our superstar Kobe Bryant talking 20 shots per game, and the rest of the team sharing the ball extremely well. And people are giving it all even if they ain't getting 15-20 shots per game like other superstars do.
Radmanovic used to average 15-16 shots per game in Seattle and at the Clippers. Now he's shooting less, but this year, like i said, he improved on the defensive end and he's not playing like a role player only. He moves the ball, he defends, he plays triangle, he's studying to became a "real" starter. Stats don't mean shit for him. He's a better player than he was when he averaged 15-16 shots per game and scored always in double unit. Get it?
Gasol is not taking 15-16 shots like he used to do in Memphis, but for sure he's a better player now. Even if he's averaging almost 10 points per game less than he did in Memphis.
etc.. etc...
That means Lakers have an excellent team chemistry, and that Phil Jackson's staff is working really great motivating those players to defend and play "so" well even if they ain't shooting like they used to do. I'm happy with Bynum shooting 6.75 times per game, honestly. If he continues to defend this way (almost 3 blocks per game) and to grab 17 rebounds like he did in his last game....... who needs him to score 20?
LAKERS RANKS 1ST IN THE NBA IN POINTS PER GAME AVERAGING 105 PPG.
AND THEY ARE THE BEST DEFENSIVE TEAM IN THE LEAGUE CONCEDING JUST 85 PPG
Chemistry is perfect this way.
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Lol you guys give Nik too much attention, you know he loves it
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Maybe with simple words it will work : Amare is WAY better than Bynum on the offensive end so if u need scoring of course you will go with Amare... but some B-Balls fans as Antonio and me prefer complete players than one-dimensional ones ... AND as of now the Lakers need more a Bynum type of player than Amare .... as Chamilitary Click said if u need a 1st option on a wack team , Amare is a no brainer over Bynum
Spice : Briedrins is putting some impressive numbers I agree with this but again this is just after 5 games and the Warriors need him to score and rbs crazy coz he's the only solid interior presence for the team ...
Another example : the Spurs needs TP to score a lot of points to stay in the game in Gino absence , Duncan needs to score near 30 a game aswell ... TP leads the NBA in scoring and Tim is not far behind , does that mean they are better scorers than Kobe, Lebron , Wade ? hell no
The point is, Amare is NOT way better on the offensive end...those stats he's putting up are good, but it doesn't prove much when all the offense is running through him. What is Amare better than Bynum at? Exploding. Everything else goes to Bynum...Bynum has better footwork, better back-to-the-basket game, better post moves. Amare scores the bulk of his points off of rebounds and lob passes. so the common misconception of Amare being a WAY better scorer is totally false when you take into account that Bynum is only shooting 6 shots a game and would be averging 20 points a game in a primary offensive role...but he's our defensive anchor and we have a gang of scorers, so Bynum is not gunna be running as much offense as Amare, which DOES NOT mean he's not as capable a scorer, get it? Keep in mind that Bynum was leading the leage in FG% before he got injured last season...muthafucka is efficient as hell. The center of the future...PeACe
so Bynum is better than Dwight Howard too? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
I think Dwight is as overrated as Amare, if not more...no way I'd trade Bynum for him.
LOL, Dwight averages 20 & 13!
and how many attempts does Dwight average in comparison to Bynum? :D
well if Bynum was that good, they would try to get him takin 20 shots a game. :P
The point of my previous OG topic was that he's playing so well as a teammate even if he ain't getting 20 shots a game.
20.2 Bryant
14.2 Fisher
10.5 Radmanovic
10.5 Gasol
9.0 Farmar
8.0 Ariza
8.0 Vujacic
7.5 Odom
6.7 Bynum
4.0 Mihm
1.7 Walton
1.6 Powell
^ This list right here (shots per game) is, along with a great new team defence Lakers is playing, the main reason why Lakers have a 4-0 record and looks unbeatable. We have our superstar Kobe Bryant talking 20 shots per game, and the rest of the team sharing the ball extremely well. And people are giving it all even if they ain't getting 15-20 shots per game like other superstars do.
Radmanovic used to average 15-16 shots per game in Seattle and at the Clippers. Now he's shooting less, but this year, like i said, he improved on the defensive end and he's not playing like a role player only. He moves the ball, he defends, he plays triangle, he's studying to became a "real" starter. Stats don't mean shit for him. He's a better player than he was when he averaged 15-16 shots per game and scored always in double unit. Get it?
Gasol is not taking 15-16 shots like he used to do in Memphis, but for sure he's a better player now. Even if he's averaging almost 10 points per game less than he did in Memphis.
etc.. etc...
That means Lakers have an excellent team chemistry, and that Phil Jackson's staff is working really great motivating those players to defend and play "so" well even if they ain't shooting like they used to do. I'm happy with Bynum shooting 6.75 times per game, honestly. If he continues to defend this way (almost 3 blocks per game) and to grab 17 rebounds like he did in his last game....... who needs him to score 20?
LAKERS RANKS 1ST IN THE NBA IN POINTS PER GAME AVERAGING 105 PPG.
AND THEY ARE THE BEST DEFENSIVE TEAM IN THE LEAGUE CONCEDING JUST 85 PPG
Chemistry is perfect this way.
i understand what your saying, chemistry is important & i already agreed that Bynum is a perfect fit for the Lakers, but overally Dwight & Amare are better! ;D
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Yeah, in NBA 2K9 their overall values are better than Bynum's ones. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Bynum isnt even as good as Gasol, so I dont see how the fuck he is better than Amare. Gasol is worse on D than Amare. Gasol is soft down low, but hes still a better player than Bynum right now.
So yeah
Amare>>>>>>Bynum or Gasol
anyday
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Yeah, in NBA 2K9 their overall values are better than Bynum's ones. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
thats what i base all my opinons on. ;) :D
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Yeah, in NBA 2K9 their overall values are better than Bynum's ones. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
thats what i base all my opinons on. ;) :D
lmao...me 2 son... 8) 2k9 iz :o
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2k9 iz :o
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Maybe with simple words it will work : Amare is WAY better than Bynum on the offensive end so if u need scoring of course you will go with Amare... but some B-Balls fans as Antonio and me prefer complete players than one-dimensional ones ... AND as of now the Lakers need more a Bynum type of player than Amare .... as Chamilitary Click said if u need a 1st option on a wack team , Amare is a no brainer over Bynum
Spice : Briedrins is putting some impressive numbers I agree with this but again this is just after 5 games and the Warriors need him to score and rbs crazy coz he's the only solid interior presence for the team ...
Another example : the Spurs needs TP to score a lot of points to stay in the game in Gino absence , Duncan needs to score near 30 a game aswell ... TP leads the NBA in scoring and Tim is not far behind , does that mean they are better scorers than Kobe, Lebron , Wade ? hell no
The point is, Amare is NOT way better on the offensive end...those stats he's putting up are good, but it doesn't prove much when all the offense is running through him. What is Amare better than Bynum at? Exploding. Everything else goes to Bynum...Bynum has better footwork, better back-to-the-basket game, better post moves. Amare scores the bulk of his points off of rebounds and lob passes. so the common misconception of Amare being a WAY better scorer is totally false when you take into account that Bynum is only shooting 6 shots a game and would be averging 20 points a game in a primary offensive role...but he's our defensive anchor and we have a gang of scorers, so Bynum is not gunna be running as much offense as Amare, which DOES NOT mean he's not as capable a scorer, get it? Keep in mind that Bynum was leading the leage in FG% before he got injured last season...muthafucka is efficient as hell. The center of the future...PeACe
so Bynum is better than Dwight Howard too? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
I think Dwight is as overrated as Amare, if not more...no way I'd trade Bynum for him.
LMAO
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Yeah, in NBA 2K9 their overall values are better than Bynum's ones. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
thats what i base all my opinons on. ;) :D
lmao...me 2 son... 8) 2k9 iz :o
word, its not even like they can be wrong, they got the living roster features. :D
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2k9 is amazing
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howard > yao > amare > Kyrylo Fesenko > bynum
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howard > yao > amare > Kyrylo Fesenko > bynum
lol.
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bynum better than amare....trippin.....maybe in five years.. or ten
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Im gonna put my opinion in this
First off who takes NIK's comments that serious enough to make a fuckin thread about it?
second off its too early in Bynum's career to say exactly how good he is or how good he is going to be.
Both are raw players with good attributes to the game...
ya'll suck too much dick in this section of the board.
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Bynum isnt even as good as Gasol, so I dont see how the fuck he is better than Amare. Gasol is worse on D than Amare. Gasol is soft down low, but hes still a better player than Bynum right now.
So yeah
Amare>>>>>>Bynum or Gasol
anyday
LOL...first of all, I'd take Bynum over Gasol any day. Second of all, Gasol is not soft down low playing the 4 and he's a WAY better defender than Amare.
Bynum>Gasol>Amare
Amare=Overrated
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Maybe with simple words it will work : Amare is WAY better than Bynum on the offensive end so if u need scoring of course you will go with Amare... but some B-Balls fans as Antonio and me prefer complete players than one-dimensional ones ... AND as of now the Lakers need more a Bynum type of player than Amare .... as Chamilitary Click said if u need a 1st option on a wack team , Amare is a no brainer over Bynum
Spice : Briedrins is putting some impressive numbers I agree with this but again this is just after 5 games and the Warriors need him to score and rbs crazy coz he's the only solid interior presence for the team ...
Another example : the Spurs needs TP to score a lot of points to stay in the game in Gino absence , Duncan needs to score near 30 a game aswell ... TP leads the NBA in scoring and Tim is not far behind , does that mean they are better scorers than Kobe, Lebron , Wade ? hell no
The point is, Amare is NOT way better on the offensive end...those stats he's putting up are good, but it doesn't prove much when all the offense is running through him. What is Amare better than Bynum at? Exploding. Everything else goes to Bynum...Bynum has better footwork, better back-to-the-basket game, better post moves. Amare scores the bulk of his points off of rebounds and lob passes. so the common misconception of Amare being a WAY better scorer is totally false when you take into account that Bynum is only shooting 6 shots a game and would be averging 20 points a game in a primary offensive role...but he's our defensive anchor and we have a gang of scorers, so Bynum is not gunna be running as much offense as Amare, which DOES NOT mean he's not as capable a scorer, get it? Keep in mind that Bynum was leading the leage in FG% before he got injured last season...muthafucka is efficient as hell. The center of the future...PeACe
so Bynum is better than Dwight Howard too? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
I think Dwight is as overrated as Amare, if not more...no way I'd trade Bynum for him.
LMAO
what's so funny? you'd trade Bynum for Dwight? Did you even watch Dwight in the Olympics? LMAO@you.
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BTW, anybody seen Bynum outplaying Yao last night? 8)
Bynum=13 points, 7 rebounds, 2 assists, 2 steals, 3 blocks, 1 turnover
Yao=12 points, 8 rebounds, 0 assists, 1 steal, 1 block, 5 turnovers
Bynum is the real. 8)
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BTW, anybody seen Bynum outplaying Yao last night? 8)
Bynum=13 points, 7 rebounds, 2 assists, 2 steals, 3 blocks, 1 turnover
Yao=12 points, 8 rebounds, 0 assists, 1 steal, 1 block, 5 turnovers
Bynum is the real. 8)
Wow Bynum is the real cuz he had 13 points and 7 rebounds LMAO...Yao had a pretty shitty game dude.
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Maybe with simple words it will work : Amare is WAY better than Bynum on the offensive end so if u need scoring of course you will go with Amare... but some B-Balls fans as Antonio and me prefer complete players than one-dimensional ones ... AND as of now the Lakers need more a Bynum type of player than Amare .... as Chamilitary Click said if u need a 1st option on a wack team , Amare is a no brainer over Bynum
Spice : Briedrins is putting some impressive numbers I agree with this but again this is just after 5 games and the Warriors need him to score and rbs crazy coz he's the only solid interior presence for the team ...
Another example : the Spurs needs TP to score a lot of points to stay in the game in Gino absence , Duncan needs to score near 30 a game aswell ... TP leads the NBA in scoring and Tim is not far behind , does that mean they are better scorers than Kobe, Lebron , Wade ? hell no
The point is, Amare is NOT way better on the offensive end...those stats he's putting up are good, but it doesn't prove much when all the offense is running through him. What is Amare better than Bynum at? Exploding. Everything else goes to Bynum...Bynum has better footwork, better back-to-the-basket game, better post moves. Amare scores the bulk of his points off of rebounds and lob passes. so the common misconception of Amare being a WAY better scorer is totally false when you take into account that Bynum is only shooting 6 shots a game and would be averging 20 points a game in a primary offensive role...but he's our defensive anchor and we have a gang of scorers, so Bynum is not gunna be running as much offense as Amare, which DOES NOT mean he's not as capable a scorer, get it? Keep in mind that Bynum was leading the leage in FG% before he got injured last season...muthafucka is efficient as hell. The center of the future...PeACe
so Bynum is better than Dwight Howard too? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
I think Dwight is as overrated as Amare, if not more...no way I'd trade Bynum for him.
LMAO
what's so funny? you'd trade Bynum for Dwight? Did you even watch Dwight in the Olympics? LMAO@you.
Whats so funny is...
Bynum's best year: 07-08
13ppg, 10rpg, 1apg, 2bpg - in 35 games
Howard's WORST year: 04-05 (rookie year)
12ppg, 10pg, 0apg, 1bpg - in 82 games
^ meaning, Bynum on his best day hasn't fucked with Dwight Howard's rookie year. And don't give me that bullshit about age cuz Howard is only 2 years older than Bynum. He's just a better player. What did Howard put up last year? 20ppg, 14rpg, 1apg, 2bpg and played all 82 games for the 4th year in a row. If the Lakers had Howard we would've already had a ring.
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. If the Lakers had Howard we would've already had a ring.
Howard or Amare, the Lakers would have a ring, no doubt.
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. If the Lakers had Howard we would've already had a ring.
Howard or Amare, the Lakers would have a ring, no doubt.
no doubt.
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Maybe with simple words it will work : Amare is WAY better than Bynum on the offensive end so if u need scoring of course you will go with Amare... but some B-Balls fans as Antonio and me prefer complete players than one-dimensional ones ... AND as of now the Lakers need more a Bynum type of player than Amare .... as Chamilitary Click said if u need a 1st option on a wack team , Amare is a no brainer over Bynum
Spice : Briedrins is putting some impressive numbers I agree with this but again this is just after 5 games and the Warriors need him to score and rbs crazy coz he's the only solid interior presence for the team ...
Another example : the Spurs needs TP to score a lot of points to stay in the game in Gino absence , Duncan needs to score near 30 a game aswell ... TP leads the NBA in scoring and Tim is not far behind , does that mean they are better scorers than Kobe, Lebron , Wade ? hell no
The point is, Amare is NOT way better on the offensive end...those stats he's putting up are good, but it doesn't prove much when all the offense is running through him. What is Amare better than Bynum at? Exploding. Everything else goes to Bynum...Bynum has better footwork, better back-to-the-basket game, better post moves. Amare scores the bulk of his points off of rebounds and lob passes. so the common misconception of Amare being a WAY better scorer is totally false when you take into account that Bynum is only shooting 6 shots a game and would be averging 20 points a game in a primary offensive role...but he's our defensive anchor and we have a gang of scorers, so Bynum is not gunna be running as much offense as Amare, which DOES NOT mean he's not as capable a scorer, get it? Keep in mind that Bynum was leading the leage in FG% before he got injured last season...muthafucka is efficient as hell. The center of the future...PeACe
so Bynum is better than Dwight Howard too? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
I think Dwight is as overrated as Amare, if not more...no way I'd trade Bynum for him.
LMAO
what's so funny? you'd trade Bynum for Dwight? Did you even watch Dwight in the Olympics? LMAO@you.
Whats so funny is...
Bynum's best year: 07-08
13ppg, 10rpg, 1apg, 2bpg - in 35 games
Howard's WORST year: 04-05 (rookie year)
12ppg, 10pg, 0apg, 1bpg - in 82 games
^ meaning, Bynum on his best day hasn't fucked with Dwight Howard's rookie year. And don't give me that bullshit about age cuz Howard is only 2 years older than Bynum. He's just a better player. What did Howard put up last year? 20ppg, 14rpg, 1apg, 2bpg and played all 82 games for the 4th year in a row. If the Lakers had Howard we would've already had a ring.
LOL! nice find with the stats. :laugh:
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BTW, anybody seen Bynum outplaying Yao last night? 8)
Bynum=13 points, 7 rebounds, 2 assists, 2 steals, 3 blocks, 1 turnover
Yao=12 points, 8 rebounds, 0 assists, 1 steal, 1 block, 5 turnovers
Bynum is the real. 8)
Wow Bynum is the real cuz he had 13 points and 7 rebounds LMAO...Yao had a pretty shitty game dude.
true, when Shaq had a great game your defense was Quinten Richardson had 29 & 8 or something. showing anyone can have a breakout game, so as easily as you can have a breakout game, you can have a shitty game. ;)
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Maybe with simple words it will work : Amare is WAY better than Bynum on the offensive end so if u need scoring of course you will go with Amare... but some B-Balls fans as Antonio and me prefer complete players than one-dimensional ones ... AND as of now the Lakers need more a Bynum type of player than Amare .... as Chamilitary Click said if u need a 1st option on a wack team , Amare is a no brainer over Bynum
Spice : Briedrins is putting some impressive numbers I agree with this but again this is just after 5 games and the Warriors need him to score and rbs crazy coz he's the only solid interior presence for the team ...
Another example : the Spurs needs TP to score a lot of points to stay in the game in Gino absence , Duncan needs to score near 30 a game aswell ... TP leads the NBA in scoring and Tim is not far behind , does that mean they are better scorers than Kobe, Lebron , Wade ? hell no
The point is, Amare is NOT way better on the offensive end...those stats he's putting up are good, but it doesn't prove much when all the offense is running through him. What is Amare better than Bynum at? Exploding. Everything else goes to Bynum...Bynum has better footwork, better back-to-the-basket game, better post moves. Amare scores the bulk of his points off of rebounds and lob passes. so the common misconception of Amare being a WAY better scorer is totally false when you take into account that Bynum is only shooting 6 shots a game and would be averging 20 points a game in a primary offensive role...but he's our defensive anchor and we have a gang of scorers, so Bynum is not gunna be running as much offense as Amare, which DOES NOT mean he's not as capable a scorer, get it? Keep in mind that Bynum was leading the leage in FG% before he got injured last season...muthafucka is efficient as hell. The center of the future...PeACe
so Bynum is better than Dwight Howard too? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
I think Dwight is as overrated as Amare, if not more...no way I'd trade Bynum for him.
LMAO
what's so funny? you'd trade Bynum for Dwight? Did you even watch Dwight in the Olympics? LMAO@you.
Whats so funny is...
Bynum's best year: 07-08
13ppg, 10rpg, 1apg, 2bpg - in 35 games
Howard's WORST year: 04-05 (rookie year)
12ppg, 10pg, 0apg, 1bpg - in 82 games
^ meaning, Bynum on his best day hasn't fucked with Dwight Howard's rookie year. And don't give me that bullshit about age cuz Howard is only 2 years older than Bynum. He's just a better player. What did Howard put up last year? 20ppg, 14rpg, 1apg, 2bpg and played all 82 games for the 4th year in a row. If the Lakers had Howard we would've already had a ring.
what the fuck is your point? seriously...you're on your typical bullshit, using numbers as reasoning when Dwight is not playing the same role Orlando as Bynum is for the Lakers (I use head-to-head stats to compare how players match up).. Are Wade and LeBron better than Kobe cuz they put better numbers? Come on, now, BabyG. Dwight Howard is extremely overrated due to his numbers, so don't give me that typical bullshit. If you actually watch Dwight play and not just go by the numbers you'd realize that the ball touches his hands on almost every possession. You'd also realize that that he has not back-to-the-basket game and that most of his points are off of putback dunks and lob passes. Who would you rather throw the ball to on the block, Dwight or Bynum? Honestly? Watch Bynum before he got injured and then watch Dwight in the Olympics. If you really think the disparity between them as players is as big as the disparity between their numbers, then you clearly have no clue what you're talking about...PeACe
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BTW, anybody seen Bynum outplaying Yao last night? 8)
Bynum=13 points, 7 rebounds, 2 assists, 2 steals, 3 blocks, 1 turnover
Yao=12 points, 8 rebounds, 0 assists, 1 steal, 1 block, 5 turnovers
Bynum is the real. 8)
Wow Bynum is the real cuz he had 13 points and 7 rebounds LMAO...Yao had a pretty shitty game dude.
you can't be this stupid...why do you think Yao had a shitty game, genius? who was guarding him? is it common to have sense around where you're from?
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. If the Lakers had Howard we would've already had a ring.
Howard or Amare, the Lakers would have a ring, no doubt.
and what if they were injured in the finals ala Bynum? that statement is extremely stupid, you don't even know...Bynum does way more for us than Amare is capable of.
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if you guys had Amare you would be like the real version if the 80s Lakers instead with Bynum your like a wanabe version of the late 90s ealry 00 lakers
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. If the Lakers had Howard we would've already had a ring.
Howard or Amare, the Lakers would have a ring, no doubt.
and what if they were injured in the finals ala Bynum? that statement is extremely stupid, you don't even know...Bynum does way more for us than Amare is capable of.
And like I said...Howard has played all 82 games every year he's been active. If we would've had Howard we wouldn't have had to depend on Kwame Brown while he developed. I like Bynum but lets not get stupid; he's a good player with the potential to be great...Howard is already great.
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Howard is beasting and i'd prefeer him to Amare with no hesitation. He doesn't have a good offensive game (Bejing exposed him), but fuck that, he got power, he takes rebounds, he can defend. At the moment he's better than Bynum, but Andrew clearly isn't still playing at full potential (like he started to do before he got injured). I wouldn't change Bynum with Amare to finish this season. But i would change him with Howard (for this season only).
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if you guys had Amare you would be like the real version if the 80s Lakers instead with Bynum your like a wanabe version of the late 90s ealry 00 lakers
LMAO. Amare doesn't fill in the void we had last season (interior defense)...Bynum DOES. you're soundin really ignorant right about now.
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. If the Lakers had Howard we would've already had a ring.
Howard or Amare, the Lakers would have a ring, no doubt.
and what if they were injured in the finals ala Bynum? that statement is extremely stupid, you don't even know...Bynum does way more for us than Amare is capable of.
And like I said...Howard has played all 82 games every year he's been active. If we would've had Howard we wouldn't have had to depend on Kwame Brown while he developed. I like Bynum but lets not get stupid; he's a good player with the potential to be great...Howard is already great.
No way Dwight is GREAT...not after how he played in the Olympics. Is he great for his team? Yes. Is he great for the image of the leauge? Yes. But overall, he's not a great player...seriously, now, the guy has no post moves. He gets lost when he catches the ball on the block. He's very powerful and a great rebounder, but he's not a great player...and if he is, so is Bynum. Lets not forget, Bynum is still getting his game legs under him. The way Bynum played before he got injured is definitely preferred to Dwights style, any time, any place...PeACe
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howard > yao > amare > Kyrylo Fesenko > bynum
lol.
its true ;)
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^^no fuckin way
yeah Howard is better then Bynum but no fuckin way any of those other douche's are
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^^no fuckin way
yeah Howard is better then Bynum but no fuckin way any of those other douche's are
Yao Ming isn't?? Amare Staduimire???
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^^no fuckin way
yeah Howard is better then Bynum but no fuckin way any of those other douche's are
Yao Ming isn't?? Amare Staduimire???
Amare goes hard i mean its hard to say who is better...
but Yao is straight fuckin garbage makes me sick
did you see that clear dunk he had against the celtics and the ball didnt go in...
ridiculous
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amare is getting 25 and 10 a night, i'll take him over bynum
yao when healthy is the best center in the game
kaman is solid too, and Okafor.
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amare is getting 25 and 10 a night, i'll take him over bynum
yao when healthy is the best center in the game
kaman is solid too, and Okafor.
im going to have to disagree with you when you say Yao is the best C in the game when healthy
so far Bynum has proved that lol
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yao when healthy is the best center in the game
lmao...+1 for the laugh cud...
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amare is getting 25 and 10 a night, i'll take him over bynum
yao when healthy is the best center in the game
kaman is solid too, and Okafor.
im going to have to disagree with you when you say Yao is the best C in the game when healthy
so far Bynum has proved that lol
Bynum had what, 13 PPG and 10 boards???
Yao gets 20-25 and 10 boards
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amare is getting 25 and 10 a night, i'll take him over bynum
yao when healthy is the best center in the game
kaman is solid too, and Okafor.
im going to have to disagree with you when you say Yao is the best C in the game when healthy
so far Bynum has proved that lol
Bynum had what, 13 PPG and 10 boards???
Yao gets 20-25 and 10 boards
Yao only did that twice this season then plays like shit
atleast Bynum is consistent
i mean dont get me wrong im pulling for the Rockets but i just NEVER liked Yao and i never will
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LOL@Hack's only argument- "Amare gets 25-10" "Yao gets 25-10"...shit gets old. If playing the game was about numbers, Shawn Marion would be a top 3 player every year. LeBron would be better than Kobe. Bruce Bowen would be a useless player. Jose Calderon would be more valuable than Joe Johnson, Brandon Roy, Andre Iguodala, and Paul Pierce. Get the point?
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LOL@Hack's only argument- "Amare gets 25-10" "Yao gets 25-10"...shit gets old. If playing the game was about numbers, Shawn Marion would be a top 3 player every year. LeBron would be better than Kobe. Bruce Bowen would be a useless player. Jose Calderon would be more valuable than Joe Johnson, Brandon Roy, Andre Iguodala, and Paul Pierce. Get the point?
so how would you like us to compare players? take your word for it, whose better? ::)
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LOL@Hack's only argument- "Amare gets 25-10" "Yao gets 25-10"...shit gets old. If playing the game was about numbers, Shawn Marion would be a top 3 player every year. LeBron would be better than Kobe. Bruce Bowen would be a useless player. Jose Calderon would be more valuable than Joe Johnson, Brandon Roy, Andre Iguodala, and Paul Pierce. Get the point?
so how would you like us to compare players? take your word for it, whose better? ::)
watch them play, smart guy.
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LOL@Hack's only argument- "Amare gets 25-10" "Yao gets 25-10"...shit gets old. If playing the game was about numbers, Shawn Marion would be a top 3 player every year. LeBron would be better than Kobe. Bruce Bowen would be a useless player. Jose Calderon would be more valuable than Joe Johnson, Brandon Roy, Andre Iguodala, and Paul Pierce. Get the point?
so how would you like us to compare players? take your word for it, whose better? ::)
watch them play, smart guy.
i watched Amare play & score 50 on the Pacers & apperently that doesnt make you good in this league.
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LOL@Hack's only argument- "Amare gets 25-10" "Yao gets 25-10"...shit gets old. If playing the game was about numbers, Shawn Marion would be a top 3 player every year. LeBron would be better than Kobe. Bruce Bowen would be a useless player. Jose Calderon would be more valuable than Joe Johnson, Brandon Roy, Andre Iguodala, and Paul Pierce. Get the point?
so how would you like us to compare players? take your word for it, whose better? ::)
watch them play, smart guy.
i watched Amare play & score 50 on the Pacers & apperently that doesnt make you good in this league.
when did I say Amare is no good? LOL
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LOL@Hack's only argument- "Amare gets 25-10" "Yao gets 25-10"...shit gets old. If playing the game was about numbers, Shawn Marion would be a top 3 player every year. LeBron would be better than Kobe. Bruce Bowen would be a useless player. Jose Calderon would be more valuable than Joe Johnson, Brandon Roy, Andre Iguodala, and Paul Pierce. Get the point?
so how would you like us to compare players? take your word for it, whose better? ::)
watch them play, smart guy.
i watched Amare play & score 50 on the Pacers & apperently that doesnt make you good in this league.
when did I say Amare is no good? LOL
well if your giving Bynum the greater than sign, id say you think pretty low of him. ::)
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LOL@Hack's only argument- "Amare gets 25-10" "Yao gets 25-10"...shit gets old. If playing the game was about numbers, Shawn Marion would be a top 3 player every year. LeBron would be better than Kobe. Bruce Bowen would be a useless player. Jose Calderon would be more valuable than Joe Johnson, Brandon Roy, Andre Iguodala, and Paul Pierce. Get the point?
so how would you like us to compare players? take your word for it, whose better? ::)
watch them play, smart guy.
i watched Amare play & score 50 on the Pacers & apperently that doesnt make you good in this league.
when did I say Amare is no good? LOL
well if your giving Bynum the greater than sign, id say you think pretty low of him. ::)
Just because Bynum is better and has a more complete game, that doesn't mean Amare isn't good. is common sense common around where you're from?
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LOL@Hack's only argument- "Amare gets 25-10" "Yao gets 25-10"...shit gets old. If playing the game was about numbers, Shawn Marion would be a top 3 player every year. LeBron would be better than Kobe. Bruce Bowen would be a useless player. Jose Calderon would be more valuable than Joe Johnson, Brandon Roy, Andre Iguodala, and Paul Pierce. Get the point?
so how would you like us to compare players? take your word for it, whose better? ::)
watch them play, smart guy.
i watched Amare play & score 50 on the Pacers & apperently that doesnt make you good in this league.
when did I say Amare is no good? LOL
well if your giving Bynum the greater than sign, id say you think pretty low of him. ::)
Just because Bynum is better and has a more complete game, that doesn't mean Amare isn't good. is common sense common around where you're from?
lol, more complete? you mean just defense? Amare owns him on the offensive end of the ball & is a slightly below average defender. ill take the power, explosive offense all day!
btw, common sense isnt real because common sense is uncommon. ;D
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Amare's talents are far superior to Bynums. Ill take a guy whos gona get me 25+ and 10+ boards a game every season over a guy whos under 10 ppg and 10 rpg all day.
The explosive offensive skills easily make up for Bynum being abit better on the defensive end. Bynums good defence isnt going to make up for The 15-20 more PPG that Amare will give you. Not to mention hes the most explosive player on the floor night in and night out.
Amare is still young as shit too, so dont give me this "Bynum will develope" crap. Same thing with Howard, both are young and running the bigman game in the NBA. Bynum is known as a role player right now with potential to develope into something more. Amare and DH are bonafied superstars in the league.
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LOL@Hack's only argument- "Amare gets 25-10" "Yao gets 25-10"...shit gets old. If playing the game was about numbers, Shawn Marion would be a top 3 player every year. LeBron would be better than Kobe. Bruce Bowen would be a useless player. Jose Calderon would be more valuable than Joe Johnson, Brandon Roy, Andre Iguodala, and Paul Pierce. Get the point?
so how would you like us to compare players? take your word for it, whose better? ::)
watch them play, smart guy.
i watched Amare play & score 50 on the Pacers & apperently that doesnt make you good in this league.
when did I say Amare is no good? LOL
well if your giving Bynum the greater than sign, id say you think pretty low of him. ::)
Just because Bynum is better and has a more complete game, that doesn't mean Amare isn't good. is common sense common around where you're from?
lol, more complete? you mean just defense? Amare owns him on the offensive end of the ball & is a slightly below average defender. ill take the power, explosive offense all day!
btw, common sense isnt real because common sense is uncommon. ;D
More complete meaning he can play both ends of the court and actually has post moves and footwork, as opposed to relying on his power and athleticism to score points.
and I guess i was right...common sense isn't very common where you're from. :D
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Amare's talents are far superior to Bynums. Ill take a guy whos gona get me 25+ and 10+ boards a game every season over a guy whos under 10 ppg and 10 rpg all day.
The explosive offensive skills easily make up for Bynum being abit better on the defensive end. Bynums good defence isnt going to make up for The 15-20 more PPG that Amare will give you. Not to mention hes the most explosive player on the floor night in and night out.
Amare is still young as shit too, so dont give me this "Bynum will develope" crap. Same thing with Howard, both are young and running the bigman game in the NBA. Bynum is known as a role player right now with potential to develope into something more. Amare and DH are bonafied superstars in the league.
would you stop repeating the numbers like you have nothing to say? I already mentioned that Bynum averages 6 attempts a game to Amare's 13...what you're saying makes no sense. and Bynum isn't "a bit better" on the defensive end...Bynum is a defensive anchor in the post, while Amare almost always gives the man he's guarding an advantage with his lack of size and defensive skills.
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LOL@Hack's only argument- "Amare gets 25-10" "Yao gets 25-10"...shit gets old. If playing the game was about numbers, Shawn Marion would be a top 3 player every year. LeBron would be better than Kobe. Bruce Bowen would be a useless player. Jose Calderon would be more valuable than Joe Johnson, Brandon Roy, Andre Iguodala, and Paul Pierce. Get the point?
so how would you like us to compare players? take your word for it, whose better? ::)
watch them play, smart guy.
i watched Amare play & score 50 on the Pacers & apperently that doesnt make you good in this league.
when did I say Amare is no good? LOL
well if your giving Bynum the greater than sign, id say you think pretty low of him. ::)
Just because Bynum is better and has a more complete game, that doesn't mean Amare isn't good. is common sense common around where you're from?
lol, more complete? you mean just defense? Amare owns him on the offensive end of the ball & is a slightly below average defender. ill take the power, explosive offense all day!
btw, common sense isnt real because common sense is uncommon. ;D
More complete meaning he can play both ends of the court and actually has post moves and footwork, as opposed to relying on his power and athleticism to score points.
and I guess i was right...common sense isn't very common where you're from. :D
whats the difference? Bynum uses post moves to score his 8 PPG & Amare uses sheer force to score, which very few (if any) can stop. Amare is begginning to develop a mid-range game, just overall a better offensive player.
and I guess i was right...common sense isn't very common where you're from. :D
omg NIK, that was so funny! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
you should take serious concideration for stand-up comedy, im serious get out in the world before you reach 40,000 (Laker biased) posts. stand-up is in a drought these days & nows your chance, esspecially with jokes like that. :D
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LOL@Hack's only argument- "Amare gets 25-10" "Yao gets 25-10"...shit gets old. If playing the game was about numbers, Shawn Marion would be a top 3 player every year. LeBron would be better than Kobe. Bruce Bowen would be a useless player. Jose Calderon would be more valuable than Joe Johnson, Brandon Roy, Andre Iguodala, and Paul Pierce. Get the point?
why do you cry about Nash winning MVP over Kobe then??
you were arguing points and stats, insteada recognizing Nash for owning the lakers
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Amare's talents are far superior to Bynums. Ill take a guy whos gona get me 25+ and 10+ boards a game every season over a guy whos under 10 ppg and 10 rpg all day.
The explosive offensive skills easily make up for Bynum being abit better on the defensive end. Bynums good defence isnt going to make up for The 15-20 more PPG that Amare will give you. Not to mention hes the most explosive player on the floor night in and night out.
Amare is still young as shit too, so dont give me this "Bynum will develope" crap. Same thing with Howard, both are young and running the bigman game in the NBA. Bynum is known as a role player right now with potential to develope into something more. Amare and DH are bonafied superstars in the league.
would you stop repeating the numbers like you have nothing to say? I already mentioned that Bynum averages 6 attempts a game to Amare's 13...what you're saying makes no sense. and Bynum isn't "a bit better" on the defensive end...Bynum is a defensive anchor in the post, while Amare almost always gives the man he's guarding an advantage with his lack of size and defensive skills.
That's a fact. Amare's opponents scores as points as he does, if not more. I proved it. He ain't a good defender. He can have a pair of blocks per game, but that means nothing when your opponents scores 20. On the other hand, he's a very good offensive player.
Howard is by far superior. He's a rebounding machine, he defends, he can block, and that's basically all i need from a Center. Then he's capable of scoring 20+ points too, and that makes him "so" dominant and the n.1 center in the league.
It's not about points. Howard is superior because he can ALSO score.