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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: white Boy on November 04, 2004, 09:55:13 AM
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I don't like Encore that much, but I hated 50s CD, so I disagree.
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better production.. better topics.. em lyrics aint that much better.. more serious.. more hits.. almost every song on GRODT is pretty good.. encore is garbage.. the obie , g - unit, lloyd, young buck, 50, are all better than encore..
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I agree only cuz Eminem was singing and acting too goofy on a lot of songs.
Obie Trice's cd was good but Im not sure if its better than Encore...yet
G-Unit, Lloyd Banks, and Young Buck cd's sucked, Encore was better than those
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I'm not defending Encore. I just hate 50s CD.
Better topics? Other than 21 Questions, he only had one topic. "I'm a gangster, you're not, so I'll kill you if you fuck with me". The whole album revolved around that.
At least Em had Mockingbird, and Yellow Brick Road to add a little depth. Even evil deeds was deeper than it seemed. It was a weird breakdown of his life and actioins. Once again, I don't think it's good, but I really didn't like Get Rich...
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gangsta talk >>>>>>>>>>> farting, throwing up, mumblin senseless bullshit in weird accents
I gotsta agree
an Eminem album with 9 Dre beats not living up to a 50 album with 4 Dre beats.. pretty sad
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I'll take second rate comedy over the same gangster fairy tales I've been hearing since 1991. At least Eminem is different. I'd rather have different and bad then cookie cutter and bad.
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Too simple one, White Boy.... 8)
I would throw this one up: Cheers > Encore.... ;D
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GRODT & Cheers both better than Encore. 100%
Gangsta Shit over Eminem clowning 90% of his album? all day lonng
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Too simple one, White Boy.... 8)
I would throw this one up: Cheers > Encore.... ;D
but cheers > grodt
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Marshall mathers LP>Eminem show>Get rich or die trying>Slim shady LP>Encore
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MM LP > Infinite > SS LP = TES >>>>>
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i agree with the topic title...easily
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I haven't heard Encore yet, but I doubt it.
Get Rich or Die Trying = 1/5
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^ come on.. but u rate the chronic and doggystyle like 3/5 so...
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^ come on.. but u rate the chronic and doggystyle like 3/5 so...
3/5? I give them both a solid 4.25 and 4.5 respectively. They are good but overrated, bogged down by skits which lower the rating for me.
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Eminem, easily...topics are better than 50's...if you actually listen to eminem's album, every song..you'd see why..production on both are tight..Dre produces differently for eminem than he does for 50's gangsta persona
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Too simple one, White Boy.... 8)
I would throw this one up: Cheers > Encore.... ;D
but cheers > grodt
:o I think you're the first person I saw who has this opinion... Man, GRODT was straight fire... Well anyway, discussing about taste is always difficult ;)
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Hell no, Encore beats GRODT consistency-wise. 50 had huge hits though, so I guess it's debatable.
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Eminem, easily...topics are better than 50's...if you actually listen to eminem's album, every song..you'd see why..
yea, songs like Rain Man und Ass like That are some deep shit ...
the topics on Encore are a fucking JOKE - literally and methaphorically speaking...
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shit is just hot garbage
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50's CD was definately better,Encore doesnt stand a chance.
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Hell no, Encore beats GRODT consistency-wise. 50 had huge hits though, so I guess it's debatable.
lol.. you say hell no.. then u say sdebatible.. wat do u mean consistency wise.. every song on grodt was at least listenable.. to me every song was dope.. at least the best were pretty sick.. who cares if 50s lyrics aint that good.. i can listen to grodt front to back with the exeption of pimp and enjoy it..
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"Don't Push Me" alone > Encore
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If ya patiently waitin to make it through all the hatin
Debatin whether or not you can even weather the storm
Unless you lay on the table they operatin to save you
It's like an angel came to you sent from the heavens above
They think they crazy but they ain't crazy, let's face it
Shit basically they just playin sick
They ain't shit, they ain't sayin shit, spray em' fifty
A to the K get in the way I'll bring Dre and them wit me
And turn this day into fuckin mayhem, you stayin wit me?
Don't let me lose you, I'm not tryna confuse you
When I let loose wit this uzi and just shoot through your Isuzu
You get the messege? Am I gettin through to you?
You know what's comin, you motherfuckers don't even know, do you?
Take some Big and some Pac and you mix em' up in a pot
Sprinkle a little Big L on top, what the fuck do you got?
You got the realest and illest killas tied up in a knot
The juggernauts of this rap shit, like it or not
It's like a fight to the top just to see who'd die for the spot
You put ya life in this, nothin like survivin a shot
Y'all know what time it is, soon as fifty signs on this dot
Shit what you know about death threats, cause I get a lot
Shady Records was eighty seconds away from the towers
Them cowards fucked wit the wrong building, they meant to hit ours
Better evacuate all children, its nuclear showers
There's nothin spookier
Ya now about to witness the power of fuckin fifty
sicker than anything on encore
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If ya patiently waitin to make it through all the hatin
Debatin whether or not you can even weather the storm
Unless you lay on the table they operatin to save you
It's like an angel came to you sent from the heavens above
They think they crazy but they ain't crazy, let's face it
Shit basically they just playin sick
They ain't shit, they ain't sayin shit, spray em' fifty
A to the K get in the way I'll bring Dre and them wit me
And turn this day into fuckin mayhem, you stayin wit me?
Don't let me lose you, I'm not tryna confuse you
When I let loose wit this uzi and just shoot through your Isuzu
You get the messege? Am I gettin through to you?
You know what's comin, you motherfuckers don't even know, do you?
Take some Big and some Pac and you mix em' up in a pot
Sprinkle a little Big L on top, what the fuck do you got?
You got the realest and illest killas tied up in a knot
The juggernauts of this rap shit, like it or not
It's like a fight to the top just to see who'd die for the spot
You put ya life in this, nothin like survivin a shot
Y'all know what time it is, soon as fifty signs on this dot
Shit what you know about death threats, cause I get a lot
Shady Records was eighty seconds away from the towers
Them cowards fucked wit the wrong building, they meant to hit ours
Better evacuate all children, its nuclear showers
There's nothin spookier
Ya now about to witness the power of fuckin fifty
sicker than anything on encore
Yeah but when the highlight of your album is a guest verse then something is wrong. 50 sucks on that whole album. No matter how bad encore is I just can't say Get Rich is better.
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but i can.. and i will...
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but i can.. and i will...
Cry me a river...
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^ ??? .. dude r u high ? or just pickin fight? wtf r u talking about
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its not even debatable. every beat on 50's cd was hot, with the exception of one or two. theres maybe only 1 or or 2 dope beats on encore. lol. its sad how eminem dickriders will never let their hero be 2nd rate...just admit the man put out a garbage album...not even 2pac dickriders are as bad as eminems, its sad...
*bumps low, down, and dirty*
this is the eminem i remember
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^ i actuall get sad when i listen to old em..
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its not even debatable. every beat on 50's cd was hot, with the exception of one or two. theres maybe only 1 or or 2 dope beats on encore. lol. its sad how eminem dickriders will never let their hero be 2nd rate...just admit the man put out a garbage album...not even 2pac dickriders are as bad as eminems, its sad...
*bumps low, down, and dirty*
this is the eminem i remember
I'm not an Em dickryder, I just hate 50. Shit, Timberlake's album was better than Get Rich in my eyes, and I hate Timberlake's album with a passion. However I cannot stand when a rap cd is judged on it's production.
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its not even debatable. every beat on 50's cd was hot, with the exception of one or two. theres maybe only 1 or or 2 dope beats on encore. lol. its sad how eminem dickriders will never let their hero be 2nd rate...just admit the man put out a garbage album...not even 2pac dickriders are as bad as eminems, its sad...
*bumps low, down, and dirty*
this is the eminem i remember
I'm not an Em dickryder, I just hate 50. Shit, Timberlake's album was better than Get Rich in my eyes, and I hate Timberlake's album with a passion. However I cannot stand when a rap cd is judged on it's production.
which means you LIKE it MORE. its not BETTER. there is a DIFFERENCE. im sure that im considered one of the biggest 50 "haters", on this site, and even i can admit that his album is 10x better than that garbage called encore. you seem like you are trying to convince yourself that you aren't an eminem dickrider.
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How many times do I have to say this on this board, and to you? There is no better when it comes to art. How can you objectively say an album is "better" than another? You can't. Go ask some local gangster in Long Beach what album is better; Doggiestyle or Paranoid by Black Sabbath. You'll most likely hear them say it was Snoop's album. Go ask some 40 year old biker in Cleveland the same thing, and you'll get Paranoid as the answer. Both could be just as interested in music as the other, but both have completely different answers. It all depends on the persons tastes.
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How many times do I have to say this on this board, and to you? There is no better when it comes to art. How can you objectively say an album is "better" than another? You can't. Go ask some local gangster in Long Beach what album is better; Doggiestyle or Paranoid by Black Sabbath. You'll most likely hear them say it was Snoop's album. Go ask some 40 year old biker in Cleveland the same thing, and you'll get Paranoid as the answer. Both could be just as interested in music as the other, but both have completely different answers. It all depends on the persons tastes.
they are two completely different genres. these arent. stop tryin to save face. everyone who went to school, knows theres a difference between what you you like more, and whats better. i guess that explains why you dont understand that FACT.
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I dont know how many eminem fans we got here (white boy me and 7even are all i know of), but were not dick ryders and sticking with eminem through everything. We all have admitted that this cd blows.
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How many times do I have to say this on this board, and to you? There is no better when it comes to art. How can you objectively say an album is "better" than another? You can't. Go ask some local gangster in Long Beach what album is better; Doggiestyle or Paranoid by Black Sabbath. You'll most likely hear them say it was Snoop's album. Go ask some 40 year old biker in Cleveland the same thing, and you'll get Paranoid as the answer. Both could be just as interested in music as the other, but both have completely different answers. It all depends on the persons tastes.
they are two completely different genres. these arent. stop tryin to save face. everyone who went to school, knows theres a difference between what you you like more, and whats better. i guess that explains why you dont understand that FACT.
I'm getting tired of this ignorance. Explain how you can call an album better. Please.
In running you can time the two runners and see who's faster. In weight lifting you can have two guys lift weight after weight and see who lifts more. In Football you can tell by the score, or by the record at the end of the season. In boxing you can just let the two guys fight and see who wins. If one guy runs the 100 in 10 seconds, the 200 in 20, the 400 in 40, and the other guy does each in 12, 25, and 46 respectively, it is easy to tell who the better runner is. If one guy can lift 400 pounds over his head 10 times and the other can't do it once, you can tell who the better lifter is. If one football teams beats the other 6 times by at least 21 points each time, you can tell who the better team is. If one boxer knocks out the other in each of their 3 fights, you know who the better fighter is. How do you know what the better album is?
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The TRUE dickriders have appeared. Shallow, drop the dick.
I don't like 50 and even I can admit, Get Rich... >>>>>>> Encore.
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The TRUE dickriders have appeared. Shallow, drop the dick.
I don't like 50 and even I can admit, Get Rich... >>>>>>> Encore.
How am I dickryding if I have admitted in multple threads that I hate Encore? I think both albums suck. In my eyes Em's just sucks less. I never once defended Encore. I just despise Get Rich.
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How many times do I have to say this on this board, and to you? There is no better when it comes to art. How can you objectively say an album is "better" than another? You can't. Go ask some local gangster in Long Beach what album is better; Doggiestyle or Paranoid by Black Sabbath. You'll most likely hear them say it was Snoop's album. Go ask some 40 year old biker in Cleveland the same thing, and you'll get Paranoid as the answer. Both could be just as interested in music as the other, but both have completely different answers. It all depends on the persons tastes.
they are two completely different genres. these arent. stop tryin to save face. everyone who went to school, knows theres a difference between what you you like more, and whats better. i guess that explains why you dont understand that FACT.
I'm getting tired of this ignorance. Explain how you can call an album better. Please.
In running you can time the two runners and see who's faster. In weight lifting you can have two guys lift weight after weight and see who lifts more. In Football you can tell by the score, or by the record at the end of the season. In boxing you can just let the two guys fight and see who wins. If one guy runs the 100 in 10 seconds, the 200 in 20, the 400 in 40, and the other guy does each in 12, 25, and 46 respectively, it is easy to tell who the better runner is. If one guy can lift 400 pounds over his head 10 times and the other can't do it once, you can tell who the better lifter is. If one football teams beats the other 6 times by at least 21 points each time, you can tell who the better team is. If one boxer knocks out the other in each of their 3 fights, you know who the better fighter is. How do you know what the better album is?
we already had this discussion in the last topic, which you ran out of. just like everytime you get proved wrong, but wont admit it. lol, i just noticed something. since you think eminems album is better, how is it better? the irony in your statements never ceases to amaze me. you dont count production, because you know that eminem is the worst producer ever, and anyone who goes up against him will have a better produced album.
HERES AN EASY WAY TO END THIS DISCUSSION(ehh i know you will find some way to prolong it, but i will end it on this note), do you really think the chronic would be considered a classic, without some of the best production ever? the lyricism displayed on that album is garbage, save 2 or 3 tracks which have kurupt, rbx, and rage. the way you respond to this will either let me know one of two things: that you will flip flop on your previous statements, or you will run out of the topic, like usual.8)
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How many times do I have to say this on this board, and to you? There is no better when it comes to art. How can you objectively say an album is "better" than another? You can't. Go ask some local gangster in Long Beach what album is better; Doggiestyle or Paranoid by Black Sabbath. You'll most likely hear them say it was Snoop's album. Go ask some 40 year old biker in Cleveland the same thing, and you'll get Paranoid as the answer. Both could be just as interested in music as the other, but both have completely different answers. It all depends on the persons tastes.
they are two completely different genres. these arent. stop tryin to save face. everyone who went to school, knows theres a difference between what you you like more, and whats better. i guess that explains why you dont understand that FACT.
I'm getting tired of this ignorance. Explain how you can call an album better. Please.
In running you can time the two runners and see who's faster. In weight lifting you can have two guys lift weight after weight and see who lifts more. In Football you can tell by the score, or by the record at the end of the season. In boxing you can just let the two guys fight and see who wins. If one guy runs the 100 in 10 seconds, the 200 in 20, the 400 in 40, and the other guy does each in 12, 25, and 46 respectively, it is easy to tell who the better runner is. If one guy can lift 400 pounds over his head 10 times and the other can't do it once, you can tell who the better lifter is. If one football teams beats the other 6 times by at least 21 points each time, you can tell who the better team is. If one boxer knocks out the other in each of their 3 fights, you know who the better fighter is. How do you know what the better album is?
we already had this discussion in the last topic, which you ran out of. just like everytime you get proved wrong, but wont admit it. lol, i just noticed something. since you think eminems album is better, how is it better? the irony in your statements never ceases to amaze me. you dont count production, because you know that eminem is the worst producer ever, and anyone who goes up against him will have a better produced album.
HERES AN EASY WAY TO END THIS DISCUSSION(ehh i know you will find some way to prolong it, but i will end it on this note), do you really think the chronic would be considered a classic, without some of the best production ever? the lyricism displayed on that album is garbage, save 2 or 3 tracks which have kurupt, rbx, and rage. the way you respond to this will either let me know one of two things: that you will flip flop on your previous statements, or you will run out of the topic, like usual.8)
I just do, and you just don't. There isn't a problem here. I'm not trying to convince you it's better, I'm not trying to get you to say it's better. I'm simply trying to get you to accept the fact that you cannot objectively say one album is better than the other. You can say you think it's better, but you cannot say it's a fact that it is better.
What discussion did I run out on? I'm the most stubborn person I know. I don't run out on arguments. I must've forgotten about it. I'll look around the board.
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answer the question about the chronic...
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answer the question about the chronic...
What was the question about the Chronic?
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(ehh i know you will find some way to prolong it, but i will end it on this note), do you really think the chronic would be considered a classic, without some of the best production ever? the lyricism displayed on that album is garbage, save 2 or 3 tracks which have kurupt, rbx, and rage. the way you respond to this will either let me know one of two things: that you will flip flop on your previous statements, or you will run out of the topic, like usual.8)
Thats the question
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I agree with the topic title aswell. Im not really a big fan or 50 or Eminem so I can judge with an un-biased opinion. So IMO, GRODT is wayyy better than Encore.
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Masta T, thank you kindly.
Now to argue that the public doesn't think the Chronic is a classic, because they do. As for what I think of it, well here's what I said about production, the way you guys see it. (Because production isn't really "the beat", that's just what hip hop makes it seem like)
Musically Hip Hop sucks, always has. It was the lyrics, flow, delivery, and rhyme patterns that were supposed to be significant, not the beats. This is why I don't think Lil Wyte's album has the potential to be better than Em's. Lesser MCs can make better albums, but when one MC is light years worse than the other, it isn't possible in my eyes.
I say musically it's looped and replayed bits from old compositions from the 70s. So I will not say it's good musically because it wasn't original. However it was a lot more than instrumentals that made that album. Dr Dre and Snoop were the two prominent MCs on the album, and both are very goog at flow, delivery, and rhyme patterns. They weren't great at lyrics, and Dre wasn't even a lyricist, but doing amazing on the other 3 out of the 4 categories I require to consider something a classic, is enough for me to consider it a classic. When compared to Get Rich I think Chronic's lyrics are better (Lil Ghetto Boy), flow is better(Dre Day), Delivery is better (G THang), and I think the rhyme patterns are better (Nigga with a Gun, and all the crew songs). That's my opnion.
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lol Encore is weak and I am an Eminem fan. "Get Rich or Die Tryin" is way out of its league, 50 had his flow on point, and the beats knocked. Like someone already said, Eminem did too much accent rapping and singin.
"Spend Some Time" is gone be on repeat for a long time tho, I love that song already. Encore got about 5 good songs overall.