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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Nima - Dubcnn.com on April 22, 2007, 04:43:17 PM
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Kurupt Young Gotti reached out to dubcnn to express his thoughts about an "Against The Grain EP" which was advertised on our message boards, which features diss tracks that Kurupt recorded while he was back on Death Row. These songs were never meant to come out, and Kurupt wanted to let everybody know how he feels about this bootleg.
Kurupt also speaks on people on the forums talking down on him, and fans supporting negativity in general. He wants everybody to know that this interview is in no way targeted towards real Dogg Pound fans, if you're a real Dogg Pound fan, this is not for you.
Enough talking though, you can read or listen to this interview. You really need to listen to it though, to hear the emotion and to feel where Kurupt was coming from.
FULL AUDIO: Click Here (http://www.dubcnm.com/audio/interviews/kurupt-against_the_grain_ep_interview_april07-(dubcnn).wma) (2.5MB, Windows Media)
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damn kurupt spoke some truth , im waitin for allthese people that said the shit he talkin bout to come in here n act like they aint said shit
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Kurupt got his shit twisted. This EP is being released by a dude on the internet, not Deathrow. Suge has no involvement with this.
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Kurupt got his shit twisted. This EP is being released by a dude on the internet, not Deathrow. Suge has no involvement with this.
suge must be authorising these projects though because he owns the rights don't he?
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Kurupt got his shit twisted. This EP is being released by a dude on the internet, not Deathrow. Suge has no involvement with this.
suge must be authorising these projects though because he owns the rights don't he?
Like that has ever stopped anyone from bootlegging ::)
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Kurupt got his shit twisted. This EP is being released by a dude on the internet, not Deathrow. Suge has no involvement with this.
suge must be authorising these projects though because he owns the rights don't he?
Like that has ever stopped anyone from bootlegging ::)
??? true but i can't see suge lettin these come out if he aint gonna get shit from it
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then that's why these just got released and suge never publically said shit
Outlawz - Retribution
OFTB - The Missing DR Files
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i respect the fact kurupt aint goin on some lawsuite shit and is just lettin the people know where he stands...
i am mildly interested in that shit. it's not that i want conflict between daz and kurupt but now that it's over, done, and they cool i sort of wanna hear it.
i'm not paying 15 dollars for it though since kurupt isn't gettin a dollar outta that and it's some cheap 5 track cd-r shit.
*kuruption needs to post here 8)
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Kurupt got his shit twisted. This EP is being released by a dude on the internet, not Deathrow. Suge has no involvement with this.
pretty much unless Suge's behind all these albums being bootlegged.
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I aint gona buy this but I gota hear it. I like when I hear Kurupts heated. I feel he comes a lot harder when hes pissed. Dude shouldnt be pissed at the fans for records he recorded.
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Dude shouldnt be pissed at the fans for records he recorded.
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Word. Kurupt shouldnt be gettin heated over shit he recorded at one point in his life. I wouldnt mind hearing that shit at all. But at tha same time I like tha new shit...tracks like "Push Bacc", "DPGC Music", "I Git High 2"...tha whole young gotti cd was dope. and btw, dat puffy track was kinda dope to mee.
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and kurupt sounds like he caught feelings over that P Diddy track
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I thought it was dumb as hell when the dpg was beefing and making diss records. I'm a dpg fan, I hated it when they broke up. I love the dogg food album, dillinger and young gottie, RR&GB. And I don't really give a fuck about this new against the grain. I'll d/l it but I sure as hell won't buy it. I ain't bought a dpg record in years, and I don't plan on it until something classic drops. I am a true fan kurupt, but the bottom line is I don't think u make good music anymore, your rapping is horrific. Take some time to write your verses, everything sounds like a wack ass freestyle nowadays. I think most fans don't give a fuck about the diss records, they want to hear kurupt spit some nice verses, and anyone with a pair of ears knows that kurupt comes wack as fuck these days. I don't give a fuck that you rappin w/ puffy, and I don't wanna hear u dissin snoop or daz...bottom line, I don't like your raps these days, haven't for years.
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kurupt CAN'T ingore decisions he made at 1 point in his career. He did it man, face the facts. I ain't on that "ohh shit i can't wait to hear kurupt dissin tha pound agian" NAH! FUCK THAT!. I can't wait to hear SOME NEW KURUPT MUSIC (even if it WAS recorded a while ago). I'ma bump every muthafuckin Kurupt shit I can, no matter what. Im'a at least give that shit a chance man!!
bottom line is kurupt gotta understand this is HIS LIFE, he made the decisions he made at the time, just like he's making them now. I AINT into the dissing, but i'm into some kurupt music PERIOD
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Im not buying that "against the grain EP",I liked the fact that he accepted reading the forum.
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*kuruption needs to post here 8)
nah that would be a bad decision,people usually tend to attack artists when they are on the forums.
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Nah i dont wescoast beef east vs west is fine but west vs west is not cool i dont support that shit at all not kurupt vs daz vs snoop fuck that i dont that shit hurts me and it hurts them i dont like ice cube and w.c vs mack 10 shade sheist vs damizza dj quik vs sugafree i dont support that shit fuck that im not knocking nobody if you like it cool but i dont i never watched dpg eulogy or none of that bullshit yeah kurupt speak on it my nigga i mean if you dont work with each other cool wish well and shut the fuck up yeah but that shit hurt me too when it was kurupt vs the west cuz i love that nigga
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i feel what cuz is sayin. "IF YOU GON RIDE THEN RIDE, DON'T BE A FAN AND THEN THROW OUT NEGATIVE. STAY DOWN OR LAY THE FUCC DOWN!" REAL TALK...
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and kurupt sounds like he caught feelings over that P Diddy track
that was one of the best tracks on the album in my opinion...
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*kuruption needs to post here 8)
nah that would be a bad decision,people usually tend to attack artists when they are on the forums.
yes. look what happened @ westcoastrydaz.com for example
99% is bullshit on these forums.
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Kurupt got his shit twisted. This EP is being released by a dude on the internet, not Deathrow. Suge has no involvement with this.
suge must be authorising these projects though because he owns the rights don't he?
He owns the rights, but this shit is straight up bootlegs.
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Major thanks on letting us hear this Nima. I laughed my ass off when I heard that shit. I mean just that the fact that he's dissing the fans. I'm suprised he didn't diss who released it. It was a good listen man.
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nima, is suge behind this release or what? did he gave the tracks to dude who sells it on the internet?
by the way. how can you listen to an angry kurupt record full of disses while he's back with his homeboys? that ain't right
everybody need to bootleg the shit out of that EP
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lol @ kurupt ....stop cryin nigga
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eat a bowl of dicks bitch...gobble dicks shyt..
nigga you recorded the shyt!!
now when a nigga pulls it out the closet you mad?
nigga what the fuck...
if its tight its tight even if you was dissing niggaz back then
ya fans love ya shyt...
you had a change of heart but niggaz aint' change on you they buying it cause you on it! wtf?
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Wow Kurupt's heated! Well all I really have to say is:
1) We all have opinions we feel like sharing and this is the place people come to express them, like Kurupt.
and..
2) The type of opinion usually expressed is disproportionately negative because of the simple fact people usually want a soapbox to bitch, rather than to praise, like Kurupt.
And if Kurupt does end up reading this thread he should know that of all the people who came on here and expressed dislike for the songs with puffy or a certain record the DPG put out or whatever, about 95% of them also made that trek to the record store to cop the album. So I can understand the perception of what your reading, but it isn’t really the reality. Truth is if that against the grain ep was released only a couple dozen people would buy it and most of them live in countries that still play disco music fashionably so it doesn’t really represent where the fans heads are at. And as long as kurupt keeps putting out albums like Same Shit Different Day most DPG fans will be happy as pigs in shit! (that was a compliment btw the album was dope.. I’m way too high right now)
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Good Lord that was great
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uhhmm...where is my thread about this release???
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Attacking fans ain't never a good move, expecially when your records don't sell shit.
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For people asking if Suge is behind this, Kurupt was saying that the only way for these people to get these songs is if Suge is beind it.. Kurupt said he knows how Suge works, and he NEVER lets artists get their songs.. After the first Chronic got leaked should didn't even let the artists keep their songs.. And for these songs to come out now, Suge is behind it.
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its sad to see suge is still pullin this shit man.... hes fuckin ruthless... i guess anything to make money.... but he wont make much off of this and kurupt will proly file some lawsuits... i can see why kurupt is heated... but this board is where the fans go to express their feelings and like it has been said before... i just wanna hear some shit from kurupt that i aint never hearrd before.... that doesnt mean i don't like the fact the homeis is back together.... i love that shit man that was the best reunion in hip hop... and it made people feel good.... kurupt needs to know his fans are all about the music... and us being forum members... well i know i have an obsession with unreleased and unheard material from an array of artists... and if we can get our hands on it we will.... THERES NO WAY I AM BUYING THIS EP... but i hope i can get my hands on some of these tracks thru this board.... i love dpg and i'm glad they r bangin out these records and doing ther tahng back together... dont get it twisted
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Suge is not behind this. I don't know if he's the same dude that I know but if he is then he got the tracks from engineers
second of all, have you seen the website? it has no deathrow logos and you know how much suge loves putting that shit on CDs
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Suge is not behind this. I don't know if he's the same dude that I know but if he is then he got the tracks from engineers
second of all, have you seen the website? it has no deathrow logos and you know how much suge loves putting that shit on CDs
That's what I told him too but he was like "If these songs are getting out there, Suge in some way authorized it, I've worked with Suge for many years, I know his M.O., he's SUPER careful with his shit."
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Kurupt sounds like a lil bitch. I didn't hear him complaining about us supporting negativity when we were all excited over "Callin Out Names".
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Suge is not behind this. I don't know if he's the same dude that I know but if he is then he got the tracks from engineers
second of all, have you seen the website? it has no deathrow logos and you know how much suge loves putting that shit on CDs
That's what I told him too but he was like "If these songs are getting out there, Suge in some way authorized it, I've worked with Suge for many years, I know his M.O., he's SUPER careful with his shit."
This is very iffy because the person I was talking about has leaked alot of Deathrow material and I don't think Suge ever authorized it.
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didnt against the grain already come out like 2 years ago? when throw bacc music came out?
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didnt against the grain already come out like 2 years ago? when throw bacc music came out?
these are the tracks that did not end up on the release.
and I've spoken with my sources. SUGE IS NOT involved.
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Dear Ricky,
I need to point out a couple of things so please bare with me:
-You shouldn't shit on your fans in any way whatsoever, makes you look very unprofessional. Fans are always gonna be bickering about how they don't like this or that and so on and so on, you should have known this by now considering your career is like 15 years deep. Just because they critize you about certain things doesn't necessarily mean they don't like you anymore or won't support you.
-You should also understand that any real Kurupt/westcoast hip hop fan simply wants to get a hold of ANY Kurupt material out there, official or unofficial, so you can't knock anyone for anticipating/wanting this unreleased material from the Against The Grain album. Why are you getting so upset about this? We all know you and Snoop, Daz and whoever you didn't get along with from late 2001 till early spring 2005 are all friends again. People know these songs are old and from another era so it's not like this is gonna start another beef or something. Yes everything is positive with Tha Pound now and this little release isn't going to change that so relax. Besides has it ever occurred to you that there are fans such as myself who collect everything D.R. related, I'm getting this because it's from your second D.R. era NOT because it has old disses towards Calvin, Delmaur, Priest or whoever in it.
-You're talking about REAL Kurupt fans should not support that ATG EP so what is a real fan to you? When you got back with Simon I still listened and supported Snoop, Daz and all of them, I bought their records on CD and vinyl, I bought Daz's shitty DVDs hell I even bought Tha Row Killa DVD! At that time you probably would have thought I wasn't a real (Kurupt/D.R.) fan by supporting your enemies you probably would have said 'fuck all y'all'. I was REALLY dissapointed in your decision of leaving D.R. 2 years ago but that didn't stop me from still listening to your new stuff. Snoop and Daz have always been (and still are) on some 'fuck Suge and Death Row' shit but that never didn't stop me from getting their stuff (and it still won't). Now you're about to walk the same path (you said 'fuck Suge' didn't you?) and basically dissing those fans who are gonna get that EP and that also still won't stop me from checking out your upcoming stuff so what's a real fan to you then...
Oh and by going public on the internet with your opinion on that ATG EP you have just boosted its potential sales, something you obviously don't want to happen. Out of all people YOU were the one who should have stayed quiet, now everybody sees you're all upset about the lyrical content so that makes it even more controversial.
Just let this go and let the fans enjoy some of your previous work, hell maybe you, Snoop and Daz can smoke some shit and kick back while listening to that EP when it comes out, have some fun and just laught it off.
Now I will be anticipating that EP as well as some new official 2007 Kurupt stuff. And if you don't like that... well... More power to you.
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hmm, so with the bankruptcy of DR who would even own the actual rights to the songs anyway? at first i thought the people puttin out the unreleased kurupt and petey pablo shit had actually bought the rights to the songs from DR but i guess that's not the case. i wonder how far a lawsuit against them would go then. hmm.
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where can u get it?
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Kurupt sounds like a lil bitch. I didn't hear him complaining about us supporting negativity when we were all excited over "Callin Out Names".
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As far as I'm concerned, I'm still checking for Kurupt, but this bullshit he is spitting is retarded and he should learn some PR skills. I wasn't gonna pay for any of these DR bootlegs anyways. Kurupt shouldn't have re-signed with DR if he didn't want to worry about all this controversy. That's like telling his fans not to buy Streetz because he and DMX squashed the beef. Fuck that.
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. I ain't on that "ohh shit i can't wait to hear kurupt dissin tha pound agian" NAH! FUCK THAT!. I can't wait to hear SOME NEW KURUPT MUSIC (even if it WAS recorded a while ago). I'ma bump every muthafuckin Kurupt shit I can, no matter what. Im'a at least give that shit a chance man!!
I AINT into the dissing, but i'm into some kurupt music PERIOD
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kurupt was pissed.... im not supportin this shit... i wanna hear some new kurupt muzik
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Cali is active didnt suck cause diddy was on it, it sucked cause 75% of the tracks were garbage...
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Cali is active didnt suck cause diddy was on it, it sucked cause 75% of the tracks were garbage...
That's a stretch... it was a tight record I was bumpin' it last night for the first time in a few months and kept sayin "Why dudes hate on this record so much?"
As far as the Kurupt EP go, I dunno' why dudes payin' for a bootleg of a bootleg. I mean damn, if this dude on For The People or whatever is REALLY "For The People" he'd just leak the shit to the fans. Not try to make loot off someone else's name... son must be a snake like Suge. I'm not sayin' I wouldn't be interested in hearin' it, but Kurupt really got a point... how you gonna pretend you buyin' Dogg Pound records and download them instead... then put together 15 bills for some CD-R of Kurupt's throw aways.
Now if dude wants to drop that Say Hi To The Bad Guy... LOL that's a different story!!
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kurupt was real pissed in that interview. alot of what he said did make sense though. hes obviously more heated cuz the e.p goes at the dogg pound, the people he's closest too. thats why hes extra heated man
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Cali is active didnt suck cause diddy was on it, it sucked cause 75% of the tracks were garbage...
That's a stretch... it was a tight record I was bumpin' it last night for the first time in a few months and kept sayin "Why dudes hate on this record so much?"
As far as the Kurupt EP go, I dunno' why dudes payin' for a bootleg of a bootleg. I mean damn, if this dude on For The People or whatever is REALLY "For The People" he'd just leak the shit to the fans. Not try to make loot off someone else's name... son must be a snake like Suge. I'm not sayin' I wouldn't be interested in hearin' it, but Kurupt really got a point... how you gonna pretend you buyin' Dogg Pound records and download them instead... then put together 15 bills for some CD-R of Kurupt's throw aways.
Now if dude wants to drop that Say Hi To The Bad Guy... LOL that's a different story!!
Dogg Chit has sold 25K in 3 weeks. There is no way in hell the EP is going to sell anywhere around that amount. It probably won't even sell more than 1,000 copies. Kurupt is getting all uptight about nothing. Hardly anyone knows the EP is being released, and the ones that want to hear it are real DPG fans. They are the same DPG fans that have opportunity to download their albums every chance they log on to the internet, yet they don't, not some run of the mill fans off the street that might or might buy a real DPG album.
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I'm 100% there with Kurupt when he says that true DPG fans should be supporting the positive music that their making. I think there's already enough negativity in hip hop to go around. BUT at the same time, I hope he realises that to a lot of his fans, music like what's being sold on the cd in question, is like an historical record. This represents a brief time in his career. And a lot of fans are completists. They want to be able to listen to the music he made during his seond tenure on Death Row, as well as his old classic music and current music.
I'm sure there have been some people that have said things like "Kurupt sucks now, but he was raw on that "Against the Grain " e.p.," or whatever. But that's only a few peoples' ridiculous opinions. I think the majority of those who want to hear this, are just curious about the unreleased songs he recorded during this time.
I think most people, including most of the people buying this, are happy that DPG is back together. And most would buy this as well as any new albums like "Cali Iz Active," or "Dogg Chit."
That's just my opinion though.
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Lol, it's not like that EP is gonna sell, i mean kurupt never really sold that much, and now at this low-record-sale-era he probably won't sell anything. So i wouldn't worry about "bootlegging the shit outta that EP" since nothing sells.
Second thing; Kurupt recorded those tracks, deal with it. If he regrets it now, he shouldn't have made those records back then. He recorded that shit knowing that there was a chance it would get bootlegged if it felt in the wrong hands (which it did it seems) and the public would hear what he recorded.
Last thing, fuck Kurupt. Diude needs to stop talkin' shit about fans, he fell the fuck off with his lyrics, it went from fresh Westcoast-style battleraps to "bitch eat a bowl of shit" stuff. How are fans not allowed to give their opinion on his lyrics? So instead of shittalking people who have supported him (even when his lyrics were straight garbage) he should actually find some time to write some decent songs, period.
I don't care what he says, i bought almost all his albums except Against Tha Grain, but im dissapointed in his lyrics, thats MY opinion and i am allowed to say it, since we live in a free world. He is a stupid fuck for treating fans like that, and it is NOT a bad thing to listen what the people that buy his records think of his music and listen to it without cussing at them.
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im diggin what hes sayin. when i saw the dogg pound was back together, i was the happiest guy in the world :P ;D
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lol at the muhfuckas sayin that kurupt is pissed at the fans. hes pissed at punk ass haters like some of yall on this forum. yall can have opinions but stop fucking hatin! shit i cant wait for digital smoke! kurupt is def. one of the best in the west! fuck the haters! 8)
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lol at the muhfuckas sayin that kurupt is pissed at the fans. hes pissed at punk ass haters like some of yall on this forum. yall can have opinions but stop fucking hatin! shit i cant wait for digital smoke! kurupt is def. one of the best in the west! fuck the haters! 8)
And you don't know what you're talking about. You don't respect other opinions then you have, and then have the balls to call the persons who have different opinion then you, haters. Now who is the hater?
I like Kurupt's style, and i'm down for any new material he's puttin' out but fact is his lyrics have degraded really hard, especially if you compare it to his earlier lyrics from the Chronic up to Dogg Food. And normally i dont like comparing different styles from the same rapper with eachother since i am a firm believer in evolving different styles throughout a music-career (without saying it's "bad" or "good" like for example Nas or Snoop Dogg), but i can't say Kurupt's lyrics have improved in any way since his "old days".
I feel his flow and lyrics from his last albums, Dogg Pound albums etc. but he is just not what he was used to IN MY OPINION. If you don't agree with me, cool, cuz that's the reason we're all on this forum for, to talk and discuss music (westcoast hiphop mostly) but don't call me a hater, since that doesn't make sense to me at all.
On a sidenote, i think Kurupt still has it in him to be a vicious microphone beast, but he just needs to take a lil' more time in writing a song and not just this half freestyle songs with 100 cusswords each verse. I am really waitin' for that Digital Smoke project, as i am still waitin' for Kurupt to rap supreme verses on a whole album, not just 1 or 2 songs.
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First off props to Nima for puttin this down and props to DJR for speakin the real. And Kurupt if you reading this FUCK YOU ill buy whatever I want and now that he crying about it I will really buy it. Becuz its negitive we cant hear it ??? So I better put away all my other classic Death Row, Snoop, Dogg Pound, Daz, kurupt records cuz they were negitive too huh aint gonna happen. So Dumb gotti Step your game up put out some good music then come to the Dubb and tell us what we can buy.
E-G DeNiro
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In my best WC impression, Dizzam somebody got fucked up!
But seriously though this is a good thread for alot of reasons. I for one and Tanj and quite a few other posters are DPGC/Kurupt fans. I said something similar to what Kurupt was saying about if you don't like the raps don't buy it and if you ain't a fan don't listen to it. Now I take MAD karma hits when he comes up on the forums, but I love the opinions and I am not about to want to have someone kicked off a forum because they don't like him. Here is my stance. I have been a Kurupt fan since Poetic Justice soundtrack. I would buy Snoop albums and listen to his appearances first. Do I think he has slipped a bit? Yes, but not to the point I can't listen to him or think he does not still make dope music.
I think it's obvious the comments are getting to him. There is really nothing that can be done about it and it won't stop just because he said that. I can understand it but like my homie said they hate ya because they ain't ya. What kills me are the people that hate Kurupt and continue to buy his stuff and DPGC and comment how bad it is and how it is not his DR quality. That is stating the obvious, but hey that is what you get from the forum.
The EP thing is how Kurupt felt at the time. That material along with the 12 miunute Roscoe diss and the disses on Gail Gotti's mixtape are out there. That shit hurt me alot being a Dogg Pound fan the way they were dissing each other but they grown men and that was the way they expressed it. Really nothing Kurupt can do about it and we know that he does not feel that way about the homies anymore. Bottom line, this forum I take the good and bad. There are alot of cool peeps on here with alot of music knowledge. The haters come in and say what they want and we get our clown on and that's it at the end of the day.
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so we throw all his other disss song in the bin now that hes made up with these people.you cant have it both way.he made the songs at a stage in his life when he was mad at people,just like he did with songs like callin out names.the fans want to hear these songs just like they still listen to his older song, dont hate the fans just because they want to hear the music they where told so much about.....
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As someone who's thought about this shit a GRIP, Please hear me out, any and all...especially Kurupt if you're out there reading like you say you are:
1. Fans- Kurupt took callin' out names off TSIAM. if you go buy a new copy of TSIAM, Callin out names is not on it anymore. Pisses me off. My old copy is messed up (constant use, real fan, that's the reason) so when I bought the new one it's only 17 tracks. No callin out names. which really sucks, cause his flow and delivery (not to mention fred wrecks production and cuts) are bonkers on that track, regardless of the 'negativity'.
2.Kurupt is misperceiving what he sees on the message board. Whenever a proper DPG album comes out or a Kurupt album, there's a gang of posts saying 'DPG fell off, Kurupt is whack now ' etc... and then when this EP was announced alot of cats were like "gonna cop this" Kurupt just added two and two together. The impression he gets from reading that is "these fools won't buy dogg chit, cia etc. but they'll buy this negative ass shit?" ..Kurupt, if you're reading,-This is NOT the case. I can guarantee you far more people on this board buy your shit than will buy this EP. No doubt.
3. Kurupt- People are not hating on you working with Puffy because he is from the east coast, people are hating on it because historically, Puffy is kind of whack. BUT I will be the first to say, that song is cool. which kind of leads to my next point.
4. I am VERY VERY offended as a fan by Kurupt. That EP gets made and he throws a tizzy, but when I make a SEVEN PAGE THREAD about Kurupt's discography and d-nice and I say a GRIP of positive shit....he doesn't notice. He has a fucking conniption over this EP and maybe 10 posts saying they want the EP and d-nice and I make a 9 PAGE threadt about Tha Dogg Pound's discography and Kurupt doesn't notice a single word of it. So he flips over the negative and can't even acknowledge the positive. That is BULLSHIT. That means it is HIM, KURUPT who is dwelling on the negative, not US. There is PLENTY PLENTY positive said about Kurupt here often and he's bitching at the 17 or so people that hate on him. That's weak, that's whack, that's american. That's why the news shows negative shit and not positive shit, cause people dwell on the negative and this "interview" with Kurupt is the ultimate proof that NOONE IS MORE GUILTY OF BEING NEGATIVE THAN KURUPT. Just look at the post numbers, how many HUNDREDS of posts were there in my dogg pound/kurupt discography thread? a fucking grip, and i bet you all but a few people in there have bought several Kurupt albums, including myself who have bought most of his albums, some multiple times. but does he notice that? No, he notices a few pages about the EP. It's not like my big ass, virtual tribute posts, were diascreetly labeled it said fuckin 'KURUPT DISCOGRAPHY' in the title, the DP thread had 'DOGG POUND DISCOGRAPHY' in the title and they were huge posts entailing over-all positive reviews of Kurupt and DPG records. I wouldn't be bitching so much about him not noticing my POSITIVE threads if he wasn't so mad at us for the negative ones. You have to acknowledge both sides to an issue, for him to just get pissed at the negative shit and act like the positive shit never happened trying to guilt us and shit....that's chickenshit...and that's worse than a fake fan, it's an artist who's not really giving a fuck about his REAL fans at all.
I bought Dogg Chit, I was planning on downloading this EP, and I bet you that's the main consensus on this board, Kurupt needs to chill.
5. Furthermore, I really like CIA AND ATG LPs. Thought both were dope, regardless of what they were talking about i thought the raps were dope and the beats were banging over-all. of course, anyone that read my DPG/Kurupt discog thread would know that.
6.Kurupt- people don't wanna hear this EP cause the negativity, they want to hear it cause they want to hear you. also, when you're mad, sometimes you flow in a dope different way and people like that. Honestly, you should be glad so many people are so enthusiastically talking about you/checking for you at all. Alot of rappers don't have that anymore, and any one can drop from the radar in minutes. Check more of the forum before you get all pissed at one post.
7. Lastly Kurupt, people don't hate on your new shit because of the content, people hate on the new shit because it sounds like it was more lazily put together often. Songs like 'keep it gangsta' from CIA and 'keep it movin' from that hi-tek joint prove that when you write a verse it's still dope....but we often get the impression you're not writing alot of your shit, but rather freestyling it on the spot which is cool sometimes....but we want to see you rip it up, with calculated skill on some HRSMN tip or something you know? because we know you can. and we don't care if it's negative or positive, we just want it to be dope and well done. Just put that fire in it, and we willl buy it, just like I've BEEN buying your records.
-T
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FURTHERMORE, the interview didn't even confirm for us if kurupt is on every track of digital smoke or not.
-T
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Bottom line, Kurupt has to step his game up. He can't be that mad at the fans, he's gotta know that he's been putting out wack verses. The song with Puff, sounds like they didn't try, just like that whole CIA abum imo. As far as the ATG album, I'd be upset to if I just got back in with my homeboys and some prick wants to dwell on the past. Yes, he made it and he has to deal with it, but that was in the past imo, and Kurupt never released them himself, so I see why he's upset.
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As someone who's thought about this shit a GRIP, Please hear me out, any and all...especially Kurupt if you're out there reading like you say you are:
1. Fans- Kurupt took callin' out names off TSIAM. if you go buy a new copy of TSIAM, Callin out names is not on it anymore. Pisses me off. My old copy is messed up (constant use, real fan, that's the reason) so when I bought the new one it's only 17 tracks. No callin out names. which really sucks, cause his flow and delivery (not to mention fred wrecks production and cuts) are bonkers on that track, regardless of the 'negativity'.
2.Kurupt is misperceiving what he sees on the message board. Whenever a proper DPG album comes out or a Kurupt album, there's a gang of posts saying 'DPG fell off, Kurupt is whack now ' etc... and then when this EP was announced alot of cats were like "gonna cop this" Kurupt just added two and two together. The impression he gets from reading that is "these fools won't buy dogg chit, cia etc. but they'll buy this negative ass shit?" ..Kurupt, if you're reading,-This is NOT the case. I can guarantee you far more people on this board buy your shit than will buy this EP. No doubt.
3. Kurupt- People are not hating on you working with Puffy because he is from the east coast, people are hating on it because historically, Puffy is kind of whack. BUT I will be the first to say, that song is cool. which kind of leads to my next point.
4. I am VERY VERY offended as a fan by Kurupt. That EP gets made and he throws a tizzy, but when I make a SEVEN PAGE THREAD about Kurupt's discography and d-nice and I say a GRIP of positive shit....he doesn't notice. He has a fucking conniption over this EP and maybe 10 posts saying they want the EP and d-nice and I make a 9 PAGE threadt about Tha Dogg Pound's discography and Kurupt doesn't notice a single word of it. So he flips over the negative and can't even acknowledge the positive. That is BULLSHIT. That means it is HIM, KURUPT who is dwelling on the negative, not US. There is PLENTY PLENTY positive said about Kurupt here often and he's bitching at the 17 or so people that hate on him. That's weak, that's whack, that's american. That's why the news shows negative shit and not positive shit, cause people dwell on the negative and this "interview" with Kurupt is the ultimate proof that NOONE IS MORE GUILTY OF BEING NEGATIVE THAN KURUPT. Just look at the post numbers, how many HUNDREDS of posts were there in my dogg pound/kurupt discography thread? a fucking grip, and i bet you all but a few people in there have bought several Kurupt albums, including myself who have bought most of his albums, some multiple times. but does he notice that? No, he notices a few pages about the EP. It's not like my big ass, virtual tribute posts, were diascreetly labeled it said fuckin 'KURUPT DISCOGRAPHY' in the title, the DP thread had 'DOGG POUND DISCOGRAPHY' in the title and they were huge posts entailing over-all positive reviews of Kurupt and DPG records. I wouldn't be bitching so much about him not noticing my POSITIVE threads if he wasn't so mad at us for the negative ones. You have to acknowledge both sides to an issue, for him to just get pissed at the negative shit and act like the positive shit never happened trying to guilt us and shit....that's chickenshit...and that's worse than a fake fan, it's an artist who's not really giving a fuck about his REAL fans at all.
I bought Dogg Chit, I was planning on downloading this EP, and I bet you that's the main consensus on this board, Kurupt needs to chill.
5. Furthermore, I really like CIA AND ATG LPs. Thought both were dope, regardless of what they were talking about i thought the raps were dope and the beats were banging over-all. of course, anyone that read my DPG/Kurupt discog thread would know that.
6.Kurupt- people don't wanna hear this EP cause the negativity, they want to hear it cause they want to hear you. also, when you're mad, sometimes you flow in a dope different way and people like that. Honestly, you should be glad so many people are so enthusiastically talking about you/checking for you at all. Alot of rappers don't have that anymore, and any one can drop from the radar in minutes. Check more of the forum before you get all pissed at one post.
7. Lastly Kurupt, people don't hate on your new shit because of the content, people hate on the new shit because it sounds like it was more lazily put together often. Songs like 'keep it gangsta' from CIA and 'keep it movin' from that hi-tek joint prove that when you write a verse it's still dope....but we often get the impression you're not writing alot of your shit, but rather freestyling it on the spot which is cool sometimes....but we want to see you rip it up, with calculated skill on some HRSMN tip or something you know? because we know you can. and we don't care if it's negative or positive, we just want it to be dope and well done. Just put that fire in it, and we willl buy it, just like I've BEEN buying your records.
-T
Sup, Tanj how was ur 4:20?
As far as your Kurupt disco. thread, I'm guessing the ATG thread was brought to his attention only. I wouldn't be upset about him not noticing. I think Kurupt really wanted to put this beef between him and Daz/Snoop/Soopa in the past and is just upset about it being released now.
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In my best WC impression, Dizzam somebody got fucked up!
But seriously though this is a good thread for alot of reasons. I for one and Tanj and quite a few other posters are DPGC/Kurupt fans. I said something similar to what Kurupt was saying about if you don't like the raps don't buy it and if you ain't a fan don't listen to it. Now I take MAD karma hits when he comes up on the forums, but I love the opinions and I am not about to want to have someone kicked off a forum because they don't like him. Here is my stance. I have been a Kurupt fan since Poetic Justice soundtrack. I would buy Snoop albums and listen to his appearances first. Do I think he has slipped a bit? Yes, but not to the point I can't listen to him or think he does not still make dope music.
I think it's obvious the comments are getting to him. There is really nothing that can be done about it and it won't stop just because he said that. I can understand it but like my homie said they hate ya because they ain't ya. What kills me are the people that hate Kurupt and continue to buy his stuff and DPGC and comment how bad it is and how it is not his DR quality. That is stating the obvious, but hey that is what you get from the forum.
The EP thing is how Kurupt felt at the time. That material along with the 12 miunute Roscoe diss and the disses on Gail Gotti's mixtape are out there. That shit hurt me alot being a Dogg Pound fan the way they were dissing each other but they grown men and that was the way they expressed it. Really nothing Kurupt can do about it and we know that he does not feel that way about the homies anymore. Bottom line, this forum I take the good and bad. There are alot of cool peeps on here with alot of music knowledge. The haters come in and say what they want and we get our clown on and that's it at the end of the day.
Look doggie, i don't like subliminal stabs, i say what i want, and people like you aren't gonna change that. I bought his last album and Dogg Chit to support the westcoast, to support DPG, but does that mean i have no right to say it is weaker then any earlier material they put out? If the answer is yes, then i find you highly pathetic, i am entitled to say what i want about anyone on this world. I like Kurupt's music, i listened to all his latest stuff, but that doesn't mean i can't say he should step his game up.
Does that make me a hater? Does it make me a hater when i bought all his albums (and Dogg Food, Dogg Chit etc.) and support him and Daz? You lost doggie, whenever an artist comes to these forums or talks about it there's always some haters who start gettin' mad at them and there's gonna be dickriders who jump on they nuts asap. You are the last sort D-Nice, get off Kurupt's nuts and get off my dick as well and start respecting everyone's opinion. Like i said before, without different opinions this forum wouldn't even be here, so what you talking about huh?
I will leave you and your idiotic subliminals towards everyone who speaks 1 negative word on your idol alone now, it is not worth my time in any way.
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lol at the muhfuckas sayin that kurupt is pissed at the fans. hes pissed at punk ass haters like some of yall on this forum. yall can have opinions but stop fucking hatin! shit i cant wait for digital smoke! kurupt is def. one of the best in the west! fuck the haters! 8)
As someone who's thought about this shit a GRIP, Please hear me out, any and all...especially Kurupt if you're out there reading like you say you are:
1. Fans- Kurupt took callin' out names off TSIAM. if you go buy a new copy of TSIAM, Callin out names is not on it anymore. Pisses me off. My old copy is messed up (constant use, real fan, that's the reason) so when I bought the new one it's only 17 tracks. No callin out names. which really sucks, cause his flow and delivery (not to mention fred wrecks production and cuts) are bonkers on that track, regardless of the 'negativity'.
2.Kurupt is misperceiving what he sees on the message board. Whenever a proper DPG album comes out or a Kurupt album, there's a gang of posts saying 'DPG fell off, Kurupt is whack now ' etc... and then when this EP was announced alot of cats were like "gonna cop this" Kurupt just added two and two together. The impression he gets from reading that is "these fools won't buy dogg chit, cia etc. but they'll buy this negative ass shit?" ..Kurupt, if you're reading,-This is NOT the case. I can guarantee you far more people on this board buy your shit than will buy this EP. No doubt.
3. Kurupt- People are not hating on you working with Puffy because he is from the east coast, people are hating on it because historically, Puffy is kind of whack. BUT I will be the first to say, that song is cool. which kind of leads to my next point.
4. I am VERY VERY offended as a fan by Kurupt. That EP gets made and he throws a tizzy, but when I make a SEVEN PAGE THREAD about Kurupt's discography and d-nice and I say a GRIP of positive shit....he doesn't notice. He has a fucking conniption over this EP and maybe 10 posts saying they want the EP and d-nice and I make a 9 PAGE threadt about Tha Dogg Pound's discography and Kurupt doesn't notice a single word of it. So he flips over the negative and can't even acknowledge the positive. That is BULLSHIT. That means it is HIM, KURUPT who is dwelling on the negative, not US. There is PLENTY PLENTY positive said about Kurupt here often and he's bitching at the 17 or so people that hate on him. That's weak, that's whack, that's american. That's why the news shows negative shit and not positive shit, cause people dwell on the negative and this "interview" with Kurupt is the ultimate proof that NOONE IS MORE GUILTY OF BEING NEGATIVE THAN KURUPT. Just look at the post numbers, how many HUNDREDS of posts were there in my dogg pound/kurupt discography thread? a fucking grip, and i bet you all but a few people in there have bought several Kurupt albums, including myself who have bought most of his albums, some multiple times. but does he notice that? No, he notices a few pages about the EP. It's not like my big ass, virtual tribute posts, were diascreetly labeled it said fuckin 'KURUPT DISCOGRAPHY' in the title, the DP thread had 'DOGG POUND DISCOGRAPHY' in the title and they were huge posts entailing over-all positive reviews of Kurupt and DPG records. I wouldn't be bitching so much about him not noticing my POSITIVE threads if he wasn't so mad at us for the negative ones. You have to acknowledge both sides to an issue, for him to just get pissed at the negative shit and act like the positive shit never happened trying to guilt us and shit....that's chickenshit...and that's worse than a fake fan, it's an artist who's not really giving a fuck about his REAL fans at all.
I bought Dogg Chit, I was planning on downloading this EP, and I bet you that's the main consensus on this board, Kurupt needs to chill.
5. Furthermore, I really like CIA AND ATG LPs. Thought both were dope, regardless of what they were talking about i thought the raps were dope and the beats were banging over-all. of course, anyone that read my DPG/Kurupt discog thread would know that.
6.Kurupt- people don't wanna hear this EP cause the negativity, they want to hear it cause they want to hear you. also, when you're mad, sometimes you flow in a dope different way and people like that. Honestly, you should be glad so many people are so enthusiastically talking about you/checking for you at all. Alot of rappers don't have that anymore, and any one can drop from the radar in minutes. Check more of the forum before you get all pissed at one post.
7. Lastly Kurupt, people don't hate on your new shit because of the content, people hate on the new shit because it sounds like it was more lazily put together often. Songs like 'keep it gangsta' from CIA and 'keep it movin' from that hi-tek joint prove that when you write a verse it's still dope....but we often get the impression you're not writing alot of your shit, but rather freestyling it on the spot which is cool sometimes....but we want to see you rip it up, with calculated skill on some HRSMN tip or something you know? because we know you can. and we don't care if it's negative or positive, we just want it to be dope and well done. Just put that fire in it, and we willl buy it, just like I've BEEN buying your records.
-T
Sup, Tanj how was ur 4:20?
As far as your Kurupt disco. thread, I'm guessing the ATG thread was brought to his attention only. I wouldn't be upset about him not noticing. I think Kurupt really wanted to put this beef between him and Daz/Snoop/Soopa in the past and is just upset about it being released now.
Good post from tanj !!!
I'm a really really big fan of K.U.R.U.P.T !! Too many haters !! (not buy ATG EP but i wanna hear it)
I'll buy Digital Smoke !!
Go buy Dogg Chit !! DPG 4 LIFE
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Oh by the way i find this interview really too pathetic for words. Just look at one lil' part of it:
We don't make music for these [negative] muthafuckas, their opinions can suck a dick, nobody gives a fuck about their opinions!
1. How can opinions suck a dick? Opinions are words or thoughts, i think i missed something. :-\
2. If "nobody don't give a fuck about their opinions" he wouldnt be so upset to say the same shit 100 times in that interview. He is clearly upset about what he saw when reading some posts, so how can he "not give a fuck" when he is so upset about it that he cant even say one thing that is not about the forums or that Against The Grain EP. :-\
No hate intended, i just find it very weak that an artist who makes music responds so weakly and pathetic on fan's opinions. Instead, he should read what EVERYONE says in EVERY Kurupt related topic and THEN do that interview over.
He made music that disses the fuck out of others, and then he blames people for liking that, if you don't want people to like it don't make it, it's as simple as that. All the "negativity" he is talking about in the interview is something he created himself, HE made those disstracks, NOT the fans.
Listening to something is one thing, posting up on this website, which is millions and billions of people looking at this shit right here! The people who don't even know the Dogg Pound is looking at this shit, reading that punk ass shit muthafuckas got up there with their fake ass false muthafucking opinions!
Another nonsense statement. Millions and billions of people on here? Lol, i bet not even 250 active members, that is by far not as big as he thinks (even when he means millions and billions just as a example for huge amounts of people) plus this is a westcoastforum meaning (almost) everyone knows about Kurupt and Dogg Pound already, so yeah. :-\
And second thing, it shows he doesn't respect it when someone has another opinion, just like the homie D-Nice doesn't respect people who don't share his opinion. How is my opinion false? I believe in it, i support it and for me it is true, who is Kurupt to judge who has a right opinion and who a false one? I don't think nobody can judge someone else's opinion like that. But thats just MY opinion.
I can see why Kurupt is mad, and i probably would be too if i were in his position, but on the other hand this makes my skin crawl, instead of doing such a bulshit interview talkin' shit about his fans he should register on this forum and discuss everything face to face with his fans.
And that bullshit about "every rapper who gets on here gets hated on" is the biggest bullshit i have ever heard, look at Meech Wells, he is mad respected. Look at Butch Cassidy. Damizza. Lots of examples of "big dogs" who get love from the forum, i think Kurupt would get the same love from people just for takin' the time to talk to his fans. But yeah, since he is more down for a interview degrading (a part of) his fans that probably won't happen. It's all good though, i still buy his albums, and i still think he got heat, but i will hope for some well-written tracks in the future though, positive or negative, it don't matter me much, i'm down for any good music he puts out.
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I had about 7 different sessions with 7 different groups of people on 420, didn't get to have one big ass session with anyone though. will rectify this next year.
anyway, Reefer: That's bullshit, he shouldn't speak on us (the forum) if he doesn't know what he's talking about. Reading the EP thread and speaking on us without reading a positive thread like my discog threads is like picking up SDDS and speaking on kurupt without having heard dogg food, you know?That's like someone picking up SDDS and saying "Kurupt was never a lyrical MC..."....it'd like dude, you talkin' shit and don't even know the toilet you know? Kurupt shouldn't speak on the negative without acknolwdging the positive, regardless of if he's an artist/celebrity or not...don't speak on what you don't know. Kurupt obviously doesn't know what's up, at all. and as someone WHO BUYS THE VAST MAJORITY OF HIS OUTPUT, I am offended.
From now on, I ain't buying his records unless the shit is FIRE.
Xander: Yo....D-nice would NEVER impose on ANYONE's freedom of speech. ALL he is saying, is that he wonders why people who don't like Kurupt post DR/TSIAM even bother to listen to him/speak on him. D nice would be among the first people to defend freedom of expression, and he is not a hater, subliminally or otherwise. He just didn't mention names, cause he's not trying to diss anyone. yall both my homies, and I don't think d-nice is aiming at anyone in particular, he's just saying he doesn't get why DPG haters bother to speak on them when the things negative to be said about them have already been said time and time again(no new ideas, no idea progression, nothing conducivce to discussion).
xander-i agree with the post you just now made, i hope to see some well written kurupt soon and if he really wanted to air it out, he could talk with us directly and he'd get mad love just like Butch Cassidy, Damizza, and Meech.
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I had about 7 different sessions with 7 different groups of people on 420, didn't get to have one big ass session with anyone though. will rectify this next year.
anyway, Reefer: That's bullshit, he shouldn't speak on us (the forum) if he doesn't know what he's talking about. Reading the EP thread and speaking on us without reading a positive thread like my discog threads is like picking up SDDS and speaking on kurupt without having heard dogg chit, you know?That's like someone picking up SDDS and saying "Kurupt was never a lyrical MC..."....it'd like dude, you talkin' shit and don't even know the toilet you know? Kurupt shouldn't speak on the negative without acknolwdging the positive, regardless of if he's an artist/celebrity or not...don't speak on what you don't know. Kurupt obviously doesn't know what's up, at all. and as someone WHO BUYS THE VAST MAJORITY OF HIS OUTPUT, I am offended.
From now on, I ain't buying his records unless the shit is FIRE.
Xander: Yo....D-nice would NEVER impose on ANYONE's freedom of speech. ALL he is saying, is that he wonders why people who don't like Kurupt post DR/TSIAM even bother to listen to him/speak on him. D nice would be among the first people to defend freedom of expression, and he is not a hater, subliminally or otherwise. He just didn't mention names, cause he's not trying to diss anyone. yall both my homies, and I don't think d-nice is aiming at anyone in particular, he's just saying he doesn't get why DPG haters bother to speak on them when the things negative to be said about them have already been said time and time again(no new ideas, no idea progression, nothing conducivce to discussion).
xander-i agree with the post you just now made, i hope to see some well written kurupt soon and if he really wanted to air it out, he could talk with us directly and he'd get mad love just like Butch Cassidy, Damizza, and Meech.
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I feel you man, and i respect your opinion, it's all good to me, it is what makes this forum a cool place. It's great to be able to discuss stuff like that with real people like you, reefer and everyone who is like that. But man, i bought all his albums as well, same like you, and i feel offended as well, cause he calls people who say "he fell off" fake fans, i think he has fallen off yes, but i also think he still got it in him to make amazing music if he just takes a lil' time to write some songs, hell i don't even ask for a whole album, just maybe the half of an album. But for thinkin' this (and posting) i am called:
reading that punk ass shit muthafuckas got up there with their fake ass false muthafucking opinions!
That is some crazy shit T. I feel offended by that interview, as someone who has supported Kurupt for years and constistantly bought his projects, unless he comes on this board to at least take the time to share his opinion i won't buy any of his next records but bootleg the shit out of it. Nobody can talk shit to me like that.
But like i said youre entitled to have your own opinion and i feel what you are saying. It has truth in it, and i think other people should take the time to think about their comments like you do, since that would avoid a lot of beef on this forum.
+1 homie. ;D
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I had about 7 different sessions with 7 different groups of people on 420, didn't get to have one big ass session with anyone though. will rectify this next year.
anyway, Reefer: That's bullshit, he shouldn't speak on us (the forum) if he doesn't know what he's talking about. Reading the EP thread and speaking on us without reading a positive thread like my discog threads is like picking up SDDS and speaking on kurupt without having heard dogg chit, you know?That's like someone picking up SDDS and saying "Kurupt was never a lyrical MC..."....it'd like dude, you talkin' shit and don't even know the toilet you know? Kurupt shouldn't speak on the negative without acknolwdging the positive, regardless of if he's an artist/celebrity or not...don't speak on what you don't know. Kurupt obviously doesn't know what's up, at all. and as someone WHO BUYS THE VAST MAJORITY OF HIS OUTPUT, I am offended.
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Like I said, I thought that just the ATG thread was brought to his attention, not the other threads. If he made a judgment on the people in the forum based on one thread, then he's in the worng. I dunno if you should take it personally, he didn't name you. But this will be something too touch on in the next interview.
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In my best WC impression, Dizzam somebody got fucked up!
But seriously though this is a good thread for alot of reasons. I for one and Tanj and quite a few other posters are DPGC/Kurupt fans. I said something similar to what Kurupt was saying about if you don't like the raps don't buy it and if you ain't a fan don't listen to it. Now I take MAD karma hits when he comes up on the forums, but I love the opinions and I am not about to want to have someone kicked off a forum because they don't like him. Here is my stance. I have been a Kurupt fan since Poetic Justice soundtrack. I would buy Snoop albums and listen to his appearances first. Do I think he has slipped a bit? Yes, but not to the point I can't listen to him or think he does not still make dope music.
I think it's obvious the comments are getting to him. There is really nothing that can be done about it and it won't stop just because he said that. I can understand it but like my homie said they hate ya because they ain't ya. What kills me are the people that hate Kurupt and continue to buy his stuff and DPGC and comment how bad it is and how it is not his DR quality. That is stating the obvious, but hey that is what you get from the forum.
The EP thing is how Kurupt felt at the time. That material along with the 12 miunute Roscoe diss and the disses on Gail Gotti's mixtape are out there. That shit hurt me alot being a Dogg Pound fan the way they were dissing each other but they grown men and that was the way they expressed it. Really nothing Kurupt can do about it and we know that he does not feel that way about the homies anymore. Bottom line, this forum I take the good and bad. There are alot of cool peeps on here with alot of music knowledge. The haters come in and say what they want and we get our clown on and that's it at the end of the day.
Look doggie, i don't like subliminal stabs, i say what i want, and people like you aren't gonna change that. I bought his last album and Dogg Chit to support the westcoast, to support DPG, but does that mean i have no right to say it is weaker then any earlier material they put out? If the answer is yes, then i find you highly pathetic, i am entitled to say what i want about anyone on this world. I like Kurupt's music, i listened to all his latest stuff, but that doesn't mean i can't say he should step his game up.
Does that make me a hater? Does it make me a hater when i bought all his albums (and Dogg Food, Dogg Chit etc.) and support him and Daz? You lost doggie, whenever an artist comes to these forums or talks about it there's always some haters who start gettin' mad at them and there's gonna be dickriders who jump on they nuts asap. You are the last sort D-Nice, get off Kurupt's nuts and get off my dick as well and start respecting everyone's opinion. Like i said before, without different opinions this forum wouldn't even be here, so what you talking about huh?
I will leave you and your idiotic subliminals towards everyone who speaks 1 negative word on your idol alone now, it is not worth my time in any way.
I really was not talking about you Xander. If I had a problem with something you said, I would say it and address you properly like I am doing right now. There are people that come into the forums and make comments with no backing. THOSE WERE THE ONES I WAS TALKING ABOUT. You always back up what you say so you need to slow down like Bobby V with those comments on me. I enjoy Kurupt's music but I am a die hard Ice Cube fan. Dogg Pound has been at one time one of my favorites and I ain't going to feel bad about it. If you got some inner feelings you want to vent about me like you did in the post, pm me and we will straighten it out. I am going to take the high road on this and hopefully you do the same. If not L.I.G. it and keep moving
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Did i send you an email? I don't remember that.
Anyways, like i said twice already, from my point of view it's cool if you have another opinion then i have, cause then we can discuss it and talk about it, which is basically what this forum is made for (next to the news-factor)
I got nothing against you, i just felt offended by your post since you talked about people hatin' on Kurupt, i didn't feel i hated on him, i was just pointing towards some stuff i rather see different.
+1 man, i'm sorry if i offended you, and let's keep it real and keep the beef for the butcher. :D
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Props to Xander I respect everything you said homie and I think your making valid points I see your karma dropin lower though So heres sum Props to you homie Have sum of that Piff if any1 is looking like a bitter ass hater it is definitely Kurupt.
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Did i send you an email? I don't remember that.
Anyways, like i said twice already, from my point of view it's cool if you have another opinion then i have, cause then we can discuss it and talk about it, which is basically what this forum is made for (next to the news-factor)
I got nothing against you, i just felt offended by your post since you talked about people hatin' on Kurupt, i didn't feel i hated on him, i was just pointing towards some stuff i rather see different.
+1 man, i'm sorry if i offended you, and let's keep it real and keep the beef for the butcher. :D
I meant a post in the thread. ;D
Whether it is G-Unit, Game or other issues, whether we agree or not, I respect your opinion. I am talking about the peeps that come in and worry about Kurupt album sales or clown how much his and Daz's checks are or base ANY album, not just Kurupt's, success on soundscan and not quality. That hating on someone else's paycheck is on some ho ass shit to me. Why would you care how much money someone is making? Your posts never come that way whether you like the artists or not. It is simply "This is what I like about the artist and this I don't like"
I also said on the same post that I have to accept the fact that these are the type of people that are in this forum and they got they piece to speak on also. Fans or no fans. I got over 4000 albums, from Dipset to G-Unit to WSCG to DPGC. I listen to everything, not just DPG. When I get my collection together I will put a picture up. I was one of the few including yourself maybe, that said I actually ENJOYED Lloyd Banks last album and I got mad negative karma hits. I never do that dumb karma shit with people when they say something I don't agree with. But I have accepted that is the way this forum is and it gets to the point I only interact with a couple people on this forum about music because half these people have no fucking clue.
Misunderstanding that's all. +1 to you, just like The Dogg Pound we keep it moving.
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I heard Kurupt isn't really into the internet thing so I doubt he'll ever read this thread.
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I heard Kurupt isn't really into the internet thing so I doubt he'll ever read this thread.
Naw he'll read it, he already asked for the link, he'll be reading it..
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I heard Kurupt isn't really into the internet thing so I doubt he'll ever read this thread.
Naw he'll read it, he already asked for the link, he'll be reading it..
You should of asked Dumb Gotti what he thought about the DMX comments NIMA ???
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I actually read the interview first and now I have listened to it and I can see where alot of people, fans included, would be offended.
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I think if Suge really owned the rights to these tracks he would have put them on Against The Grain the first time Dont cha think ??? Was Kurupt pokin Crooked I a little bit when he said "The West Coast public was loving that shit when I dropped Callin' Out Names, but the whole game [the industry] turned they back on me. Now everybody getting rich off doing what I was doing! This is the first time I'm really speaking on this cause I was really ignoring it cuzz hmmmm
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I understand him and why he's upset about HATERS !!!
As a big KURUPT AND DPG fan I feel what he's saying
You can't hide behind tha freedom to speak you opinions and say he fall of or this is wack blablablabla
U CAN SAY I LIKED IT OR DIDN'T BUT in no way U can say he's wack or his l
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lol at the muhfuckas sayin that kurupt is pissed at the fans. hes pissed at punk ass haters like some of yall on this forum. yall can have opinions but stop fucking hatin! shit i cant wait for digital smoke! kurupt is def. one of the best in the west! fuck the haters! 8)
As someone who's thought about this shit a GRIP, Please hear me out, any and all...especially Kurupt if you're out there reading like you say you are:
1. Fans- Kurupt took callin' out names off TSIAM. if you go buy a new copy of TSIAM, Callin out names is not on it anymore. Pisses me off. My old copy is messed up (constant use, real fan, that's the reason) so when I bought the new one it's only 17 tracks. No callin out names. which really sucks, cause his flow and delivery (not to mention fred wrecks production and cuts) are bonkers on that track, regardless of the 'negativity'.
2.Kurupt is misperceiving what he sees on the message board. Whenever a proper DPG album comes out or a Kurupt album, there's a gang of posts saying 'DPG fell off, Kurupt is whack now ' etc... and then when this EP was announced alot of cats were like "gonna cop this" Kurupt just added two and two together. The impression he gets from reading that is "these fools won't buy dogg chit, cia etc. but they'll buy this negative ass shit?" ..Kurupt, if you're reading,-This is NOT the case. I can guarantee you far more people on this board buy your shit than will buy this EP. No doubt.
3. Kurupt- People are not hating on you working with Puffy because he is from the east coast, people are hating on it because historically, Puffy is kind of whack. BUT I will be the first to say, that song is cool. which kind of leads to my next point.
4. I am VERY VERY offended as a fan by Kurupt. That EP gets made and he throws a tizzy, but when I make a SEVEN PAGE THREAD about Kurupt's discography and d-nice and I say a GRIP of positive shit....he doesn't notice. He has a fucking conniption over this EP and maybe 10 posts saying they want the EP and d-nice and I make a 9 PAGE threadt about Tha Dogg Pound's discography and Kurupt doesn't notice a single word of it. So he flips over the negative and can't even acknowledge the positive. That is BULLSHIT. That means it is HIM, KURUPT who is dwelling on the negative, not US. There is PLENTY PLENTY positive said about Kurupt here often and he's bitching at the 17 or so people that hate on him. That's weak, that's whack, that's american. That's why the news shows negative shit and not positive shit, cause people dwell on the negative and this "interview" with Kurupt is the ultimate proof that NOONE IS MORE GUILTY OF BEING NEGATIVE THAN KURUPT. Just look at the post numbers, how many HUNDREDS of posts were there in my dogg pound/kurupt discography thread? a fucking grip, and i bet you all but a few people in there have bought several Kurupt albums, including myself who have bought most of his albums, some multiple times. but does he notice that? No, he notices a few pages about the EP. It's not like my big ass, virtual tribute posts, were diascreetly labeled it said fuckin 'KURUPT DISCOGRAPHY' in the title, the DP thread had 'DOGG POUND DISCOGRAPHY' in the title and they were huge posts entailing over-all positive reviews of Kurupt and DPG records. I wouldn't be bitching so much about him not noticing my POSITIVE threads if he wasn't so mad at us for the negative ones. You have to acknowledge both sides to an issue, for him to just get pissed at the negative shit and act like the positive shit never happened trying to guilt us and shit....that's chickenshit...and that's worse than a fake fan, it's an artist who's not really giving a fuck about his REAL fans at all.
I bought Dogg Chit, I was planning on downloading this EP, and I bet you that's the main consensus on this board, Kurupt needs to chill.
5. Furthermore, I really like CIA AND ATG LPs. Thought both were dope, regardless of what they were talking about i thought the raps were dope and the beats were banging over-all. of course, anyone that read my DPG/Kurupt discog thread would know that.
6.Kurupt- people don't wanna hear this EP cause the negativity, they want to hear it cause they want to hear you. also, when you're mad, sometimes you flow in a dope different way and people like that. Honestly, you should be glad so many people are so enthusiastically talking about you/checking for you at all. Alot of rappers don't have that anymore, and any one can drop from the radar in minutes. Check more of the forum before you get all pissed at one post.
7. Lastly Kurupt, people don't hate on your new shit because of the content, people hate on the new shit because it sounds like it was more lazily put together often. Songs like 'keep it gangsta' from CIA and 'keep it movin' from that hi-tek joint prove that when you write a verse it's still dope....but we often get the impression you're not writing alot of your shit, but rather freestyling it on the spot which is cool sometimes....but we want to see you rip it up, with calculated skill on some HRSMN tip or something you know? because we know you can. and we don't care if it's negative or positive, we just want it to be dope and well done. Just put that fire in it, and we willl buy it, just like I've BEEN buying your records.
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Sup, Tanj how was ur 4:20?
As far as your Kurupt disco. thread, I'm guessing the ATG thread was brought to his attention only. I wouldn't be upset about him not noticing. I think Kurupt really wanted to put this beef between him and Daz/Snoop/Soopa in the past and is just upset about it being released now.
Good post from tanj !!!
I'm a really really big fan of K.U.R.U.P.T !! Too many haters !! (not buy ATG EP but i wanna hear it)
I'll buy Digital Smoke !!
Go buy Dogg Chit !! DPG 4 LIFE
thats what im sayin!
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I know there's true die hard KURUPT's fans in this board !! (what up Tang,D nice etc...) ;) and as for the haters these motherfuckers are everywhere so why giving them attention??? ::) ::)
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Was Kurupt pokin Crooked I a little bit when he said "The West Coast public was loving that shit when I dropped Callin' Out Names, but the whole game [the industry] turned they back on me. Now everybody getting rich off doing what I was doing! This is the first time I'm really speaking on this cause I was really ignoring it cuzz hmmmm
interesting, but I don't think he was. first off i think he was generalizing the whole industry and not a particular person, and how can he say Crooked is suddenly rich from dissing DMX? LOL!! nah, i don't think so.
Yeah I feel ya
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I find it funny how Daz has been scamming people online for years yet this bootleg is what Kurupt decides to take a stance against lol
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I find it funny how Daz has been scamming people online for years yet this bootleg is what Kurupt decides to take a stance against lol
HAHA so true
I finally read the interview and Kurupt is wrong for telling us our opinions are bullshit. I always though he was kinda a wack person, but he's gotta realize, we are his true fans. Dudes can't accept that fact that they put out some weak ass records. IMO a guy like Kurupt needs someone in his ear to tell him alot of the shit he does is wack.
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KURUPT KEEP DOING UR THING AND KEEP IT G'D UP NIGGA 8) 8)
DON'T TRIP OF THA BULLSHIT THAT BABY'ASS INTERNET PUT ON LINE !!
AND AS FAR AS THIS FAKE ASS ATG EP BOOTLEG IT'S JUST SOMEBODY TRYING TO GET MONEY OUT OF KURUPT RAP AND MAYBE EVEN GET HIM TO BEEF WITH HIS HOMEBOYS (DAZ,SNOOP,SOOPAFLY ETC...) SO WHO ESLE BUT THIS FAT BITCH'ASS SUGE CAN DO THIS ??? >:( >:(
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Kurupt voiced his opinion and I give him props for it. He spoke his mind while others artists wouldn't have even touched on the subject or try to make amends.
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BTW NIMA KURUPT AND HOT DOLLAR HAS BEEF OR WHAT???
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Lol, it's not like that EP is gonna sell, i mean kurupt never really sold that much, and now at this low-record-sale-era he probably won't sell anything. So i wouldn't worry about "bootlegging the shit outta that EP" since nothing sells.
Second thing; Kurupt recorded those tracks, deal with it. If he regrets it now, he shouldn't have made those records back then. He recorded that shit knowing that there was a chance it would get bootlegged if it felt in the wrong hands (which it did it seems) and the public would hear what he recorded.
Last thing, fuck Kurupt. Diude needs to stop talkin' shit about fans, he fell the fuck off with his lyrics, it went from fresh Westcoast-style battleraps to "bitch eat a bowl of shit" stuff. How are fans not allowed to give their opinion on his lyrics? So instead of shittalking people who have supported him (even when his lyrics were straight garbage) he should actually find some time to write some decent songs, period.
I don't care what he says, i bought almost all his albums except Against Tha Grain, but im dissapointed in his lyrics, thats MY opinion and i am allowed to say it, since we live in a free world. He is a stupid fuck for treating fans like that, and it is NOT a bad thing to listen what the people that buy his records think of his music and listen to it without cussing at them.
I 100% agree.
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Lol, it's not like that EP is gonna sell, i mean kurupt never really sold that much, and now at this low-record-sale-era he probably won't sell anything. So i wouldn't worry about "bootlegging the shit outta that EP" since nothing sells.
Second thing; Kurupt recorded those tracks, deal with it. If he regrets it now, he shouldn't have made those records back then. He recorded that shit knowing that there was a chance it would get bootlegged if it felt in the wrong hands (which it did it seems) and the public would hear what he recorded.
Last thing, fuck Kurupt. Diude needs to stop talkin' shit about fans, he fell the fuck off with his lyrics, it went from fresh Westcoast-style battleraps to "bitch eat a bowl of shit" stuff. How are fans not allowed to give their opinion on his lyrics? So instead of shittalking people who have supported him (even when his lyrics were straight garbage) he should actually find some time to write some decent songs, period.
I don't care what he says, i bought almost all his albums except Against Tha Grain, but im dissapointed in his lyrics, thats MY opinion and i am allowed to say it, since we live in a free world. He is a stupid fuck for treating fans like that, and it is NOT a bad thing to listen what the people that buy his records think of his music and listen to it without cussing at them.
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Real Talk^^^............Why the fuck does he give a shit about what fans type on an internet Board?????..............He needs to concentration on makin good music.....
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Kurupt voiced his opinion and I give him props for it. He spoke his mind while others artists wouldn't have even touched on the subject or try to make amends.
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everybody gets upset from time to time... no big deal. enjoy the music!
bring me that kurupt solo album that snoop is overseeing 8)
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yep and I hope it got DAZ,BATTLECAT,FREDWRECK,MEECH WELLS and SOOPAFLY production on it
This will be dope 8)
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Like alot of other people said we don't want to listen to Kurupt to hear him dissing people, we want to hear Kurupt shit we've never heard before. That EP is unreleased material so of course we want to hear it. I could give a fuck who beefs with who, if i listen to someone dissing someone else that doesn't mean I have ill feelings towards whoever they're dissing. Overall Kurupt is and always will be one of my all time favorites but I think he needs to chill the fuck out/word his shit so it doesn't look like he's calling out his fans that support him and just want to hear new shit from him
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I will support Kurupt only if he proves that he's still that Lyrical Monster that he once was, I mean the fact that fans are dissing the fuck of him should boost him into putting more work into his lyrics and delivery, Kurupt used to be respected a few years back, you could hear him rap with people like Inspectah Deck, Gangstarr and some some of the greatest, now its like Who the fuck is a Kurupt Young Gotti, i still think its not too late though. everyone deserves a second chance, so yeah if he can bring me quality music, I'll support and if he's reading this, He should spend some more time in the studio, wilth People like Rage, Soopafly, or people that knows how to bring out the best of him
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Kurupt voiced his opinion and I give him props for it. He spoke his mind while others artists wouldn't have even touched on the subject or try to make amends.
this is true, I will not deny.
props to Kurupt for reaching out to the board to speak in some form.
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kurupt's style right now can't be fucked with. his presence on same shit, cali iz active, and dogg chit is so dope its retarded. he can just yell shit and it adds to the song, even more so than during the late 90's. the lyrics aren't as sharp though and i think thats the only problem. i thought all the hate on that diddy track was because of his verse rather than the guest spot because i remember people talking about how snoop tore that shit up. then with this whole EP...kurupts past bit him on the ass. if he's reading this..why not look at that as something positive and be more careful about your artwork? everyone wants you to rap out of your mind again...im not saying what to do by any means, but if you run stricter quality control on your work its gonna show. there's a definite upgrade (edit: since C.I.A.) too..i think everyone is going to admit that. dude is one of the most talented and respected, to be 100% real it just feels like something is missing right now. that comes from 10+ years of listening.
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^^^ Yeah, his latest shit is cool I agree. I've had his verses from 'where u from' and 'good azz day' stuck in my head alot lately. "MARS ain't FAR" so simple, but such a great line.
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uhhmm...where is my thread about this release???
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Him and Rage'd be so great cuz I love how she raps she's the most consistant female raper of the game and maybe of all the time ( 4 me)
SSDD album was really good people been sleeping on this one I love this album it has some bangers like ride & roll, I get hight 2 , I did it
and matter of fact we can't hate on him expressing his feelings on the situation with this bootleg EP or even with the HATERS cuz he wasn't addressing the fans but the fake fans wich are haters sometime and fans sometime so don't hate on him and let a nigga do what he got do to feed his family and his kids
now chuuuuuuuchhhhhhhhhhh 8) 8)
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I think if Suge really owned the rights to these tracks he would have put them on Against The Grain the first time Dont cha think ??? Was Kurupt pokin Crooked I a little bit when he said "The West Coast public was loving that shit when I dropped Callin' Out Names, but the whole game [the industry] turned they back on me. Now everybody getting rich off doing what I was doing! This is the first time I'm really speaking on this cause I was really ignoring it cuzz hmmmm
He tried, but Koch removed the tracks.
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but this shit got leaked so I blame SUGE fat'ass for this and as said KURUPT we all know how he works !!
I'll always be mad at Suge for fucking up Death Row with the biggest artists in the world could you imagine how strong the roster was??? :o :o :o
Snoop,Dre,DOC,Nate Dogg,Warren g (even if he wasn't signed he was around),RBX,Rage,Kurupt,Daz,Soopafly,Bad ass,Sam Sneed,Tupac,Jewel and so on and so on now this shit IS DEAD because of SUGE KNIGHT so fuck him for this !!
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but this shit got leaked so I blame SUGE fat'ass for this and as said KURUPT we all know how he works !!
I'll always be mad at Suge for fucking up Death Row with the biggest artists in the world could you imagine how strong the roster was??? :o :o :o
Snoop,Dre,DOC,Nate Dogg,Warren g (even if he wasn't signed he was around),RBX,Rage,Kurupt,Daz,Soopafly,Bad ass,Sam Sneed,Tupac,Jewel and so on and so on now this shit IS DEAD because of SUGE KNIGHT so fuck him for this !!
you're stubborn aren't you? suge has no involvement. you just want to say fuck suge regardless.
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If Kurupt is really gonna read this thread, here's my two cents on all this:
1) Fans don't care who you do tracks with as long as they're good. The Puffy and Paul Wall tracks were garbage and besides Soppafly's production, the song "Cali iz Active", and Rage's verses, CIA sucked. Even Daz acknowledged this in a couple of online interviews when hyping up Dogg Chit. This is why IMO leaking albums is good, because as a fan I was able to listen to both, and I wound up buying Dogg Chit because it was a much better overall album than CIA.
2) I want to hear the leaked tracks. I remember Kurupt even agreeing with Suge in a couple interviews not to support the release by koch because they took off the tracks. Daz hasn't caught feelings about people talking about his dis tracks towards Kurupt, so Kurupt shouldn't be feeling the same. The past is the past, there's no turning back time so that you can opt not to record those songs.
3) With more and more music leaking, and with the high demand of unreleased DR music, it's inevitable that some shit was bound to be leaked. OFTB, Tha Outlawz, and Tha Realest haven't really made much of a big deal of their DR shit being leaked.
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If Kurupt is really gonna read this thread, here's my two cents on all this:
1) Fans don't care who you do tracks with as long as they're good. The Puffy and Paul Wall tracks were garbage and besides Soppafly's production, the song "Cali iz Active", and Rage's verses, CIA sucked. Even Daz acknowledged this in a couple of online interviews when hyping up Dogg Chit. This is why IMO leaking albums is good, because as a fan I was able to listen to both, and I wound up buying Dogg Chit because it was a much better overall album than CIA.
2) I want to hear the leaked tracks. I remember Kurupt even agreeing with Suge in a couple interviews not to support the release by koch because they took off the tracks. Daz hasn't caught feelings about people talking about his dis tracks towards Kurupt, so Kurupt shouldn't be feeling the same. The past is the past, there's no turning back time so that you can opt not to record those songs.
3) With more and more music leaking, and with the high demand of unreleased DR music, it's inevitable that some shit was bound to be leaked. OFTB, Tha Outlawz, and Tha Realest haven't really made much of a big deal of their DR shit being leaked.
hopefully crooked i is next ;D
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Man, I think CIA is good. How can you say Daz & Kurupt arent killin Thrown Up Da C? I think people will look back and know they slept on this...
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How is my opinion false? I believe in it, i support it and for me it is true, who is Kurupt to judge who has a right opinion and who a false one? I don't think nobody can judge someone else's opinion like that. But thats just MY opinion.
An artist can say who the fuck he is to judge my music like that when he is not even a producer or a songwriter.
instead of doing such a bulshit interview talkin' shit about his fans he should register on this forum and discuss everything face to face with his fans.
that would hurt his career,the best thing to do for an artist is not to interact directly with fans on the net.
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I heard Kurupt isn't really into the internet thing so I doubt he'll ever read this thread.
mostly of artists will say that,but they check the net.
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but he's gotta realize, we are his true fans. Dudes can't accept that fact that they put out some weak ass records. IMO a guy like Kurupt needs someone in his ear to tell him alot of the shit he does is wack.
You know whats the problem with rappers today?
They make like 100 or 200 songs for an album but none of those songs met the standards for a classic song,in fact mostly of them are mediocre tracks.
Instead of making like 2 or 3 songs in just one day they should focus,in just making one song for the time that it requires,to be sure that they gonna record a track that is classic material,they should just write like 16 or 17 songs with great lyrics before steppin in front of the mic and then they should demand excellent beats from their producers and just pick 17 beats that they consider met the standards for a classic track,and be sure that their album has at least 3 or 4 tracks with potential to become a hit when they release their lp.
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How is my opinion false? I believe in it, i support it and for me it is true, who is Kurupt to judge who has a right opinion and who a false one? I don't think nobody can judge someone else's opinion like that. But thats just MY opinion.
An artist can say who the fuck he is to judge my music like that when he is not even a producer or a songwriter.
You don't have to be in the music industry to know what sounds good. If that were the case, there might as well be only one artist releasing music.
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How is my opinion false? I believe in it, i support it and for me it is true, who is Kurupt to judge who has a right opinion and who a false one? I don't think nobody can judge someone else's opinion like that. But thats just MY opinion.
An artist can say who the fuck he is to judge my music like that when he is not even a producer or a songwriter.
You don't have to be in the music industry to know what sounds good. If that were the case, there might as well be only one artist releasing music.
I know what you mean but I was trying to make a point about how an artist can justify his opinion when the other side did the same thing.
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How is my opinion false? I believe in it, i support it and for me it is true, who is Kurupt to judge who has a right opinion and who a false one? I don't think nobody can judge someone else's opinion like that. But thats just MY opinion.
An artist can say who the fuck he is to judge my music like that when he is not even a producer or a songwriter.
You don't have to be in the music industry to know what sounds good. If that were the case, there might as well be only one artist releasing music.
I know what you mean but I was trying to make a point about how an artist can justify his opinion when the other side did the same thing.
When artists make statements like Kurupt did, there will always be a backlash of disgruntled fans that have supported their music and feel like they are being shitted on. But it's a never ending battle. There will always be something to criticize creatively on an album. Just because the artist might think a certain way doesn't necessarily mean he is right, or vice versa. Any musical act should know that and just keep making the music they want to make and just keep it moving.
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http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=141480.0;topicseen
Kurupt discography thread
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=140681.0
Dogg Pound discography thread
Kurupt, if you still cared enough about this to read the thread, these are some posts where myself (and many others) do our best to do even-handed looks at your solo discography and the dogg pound duo album discography.
Nima, if you talk to dude soon, it'd be cool to point him towards those threads, if not...I understand.
peace-T
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Did i send you an email? I don't remember that.
Anyways, like i said twice already, from my point of view it's cool if you have another opinion then i have, cause then we can discuss it and talk about it, which is basically what this forum is made for (next to the news-factor)
I got nothing against you, i just felt offended by your post since you talked about people hatin' on Kurupt, i didn't feel i hated on him, i was just pointing towards some stuff i rather see different.
+1 man, i'm sorry if i offended you, and let's keep it real and keep the beef for the butcher. :D
I meant a post in the thread. ;D
Whether it is G-Unit, Game or other issues, whether we agree or not, I respect your opinion. I am talking about the peeps that come in and worry about Kurupt album sales or clown how much his and Daz's checks are or base ANY album, not just Kurupt's, success on soundscan and not quality. That hating on someone else's paycheck is on some ho ass shit to me. Why would you care how much money someone is making? Your posts never come that way whether you like the artists or not. It is simply "This is what I like about the artist and this I don't like"
I also said on the same post that I have to accept the fact that these are the type of people that are in this forum and they got they piece to speak on also. Fans or no fans. I got over 4000 albums, from Dipset to G-Unit to WSCG to DPGC. I listen to everything, not just DPG. When I get my collection together I will put a picture up. I was one of the few including yourself maybe, that said I actually ENJOYED Lloyd Banks last album and I got mad negative karma hits. I never do that dumb karma shit with people when they say something I don't agree with. But I have accepted that is the way this forum is and it gets to the point I only interact with a couple people on this forum about music because half these people have no fucking clue.
Misunderstanding that's all. +1 to you, just like The Dogg Pound we keep it moving.
I enjoyed Rotten Apple much yes, i still think it's a pretty good album, but almost anything with the G-Unit stamp on it gets hated on and labeled as trash before it is even released.
And i TOTALLY agree with worrying about sales, why would you give a fuck about someone else's money? Do you do that to your neighbors? Do you ask them if they get enough money, what they spend it on etc. I don't think so, so why do it with the rappers, shit don't make sense to me, and i agree with you D-Nice.
And personally i love this karma, since it shows how upset some people can get over someone else. They get mad over some words on an internetforum, that is pathetic for 2 reasons:
- It is not even in real life, so why worry about someone who you probably never will meer anyways (i take it this is the same thing as the money/sales issues.)
- They never say who they are, so they basically don't want people to know who gave them bad karma, lol. So they some rats at the same time.
Peeps on this bitch here worry too much about other people, that's the cause. Just enjoy this forum, the music, and life, and leave the bullshit for the rodeo, you know.
I always thought you was a cool dude on this forum, someone who doesn;t just post shit for the postcount and actually put some more in then "props" or "cool" you know, but your post talked about fake Kurupt fans or something (i don't even know anymore, lol) and i just posted a post which had some critics about Kurupt a minute before that, so i thought your post was aimed at me, i'm sorry for takin' it the wrong way, like you said, a lil' misunderstanding.
Oh btw, put that pic up if you completed your collection, i'm curious to it. 8)
+1 Homie.
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Kurupt got his shit twisted. This EP is being released by a dude on the internet, not Deathrow. Suge has no involvement with this.
suge must be authorising these projects though because he owns the rights don't he?
NO, this release is being released by one of Kurupt's former webmaster. His name is John Hyland, lives in Georgia. Also known as AM7.
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Kurupt got his shit twisted. This EP is being released by a dude on the internet, not Deathrow. Suge has no involvement with this.
suge must be authorising these projects though because he owns the rights don't he?
NO, this release is being released by one of Kurupt's former webmaster. His name is John Hyland, lives in Georgia. Also known as AM7.
THANK YOU. I was tired of babysitting this fucking thread.
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honestly i think kurupts prob just trippin cuz snoop/daz an all of em are gonna hear that shit and might spark up some flames....anyone agree?
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honestly i think kurupts prob just trippin cuz snoop/daz an all of em are gonna hear that shit and might spark up some flames....anyone agree?
i'm sure he could speak with them personally. but i see what you're saying
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Peep this Kurupt has no idea the person behind his bootleg is actually his OWN webmaster. AM7/John Hyland from LaGrange, Georgria. He is bootlegging Kurupt's material. He also did Kurupt's page a few years or pretended to
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Did i send you an email? I don't remember that.
Anyways, like i said twice already, from my point of view it's cool if you have another opinion then i have, cause then we can discuss it and talk about it, which is basically what this forum is made for (next to the news-factor)
I got nothing against you, i just felt offended by your post since you talked about people hatin' on Kurupt, i didn't feel i hated on him, i was just pointing towards some stuff i rather see different.
+1 man, i'm sorry if i offended you, and let's keep it real and keep the beef for the butcher. :D
I meant a post in the thread. ;D
Whether it is G-Unit, Game or other issues, whether we agree or not, I respect your opinion. I am talking about the peeps that come in and worry about Kurupt album sales or clown how much his and Daz's checks are or base ANY album, not just Kurupt's, success on soundscan and not quality. That hating on someone else's paycheck is on some ho ass shit to me. Why would you care how much money someone is making? Your posts never come that way whether you like the artists or not. It is simply "This is what I like about the artist and this I don't like"
I also said on the same post that I have to accept the fact that these are the type of people that are in this forum and they got they piece to speak on also. Fans or no fans. I got over 4000 albums, from Dipset to G-Unit to WSCG to DPGC. I listen to everything, not just DPG. When I get my collection together I will put a picture up. I was one of the few including yourself maybe, that said I actually ENJOYED Lloyd Banks last album and I got mad negative karma hits. I never do that dumb karma shit with people when they say something I don't agree with. But I have accepted that is the way this forum is and it gets to the point I only interact with a couple people on this forum about music because half these people have no fucking clue.
Misunderstanding that's all. +1 to you, just like The Dogg Pound we keep it moving.
I enjoyed Rotten Apple much yes, i still think it's a pretty good album, but almost anything with the G-Unit stamp on it gets hated on and labeled as trash before it is even released.
And i TOTALLY agree with worrying about sales, why would you give a fuck about someone else's money? Do you do that to your neighbors? Do you ask them if they get enough money, what they spend it on etc. I don't think so, so why do it with the rappers, shit don't make sense to me, and i agree with you D-Nice.
And personally i love this karma, since it shows how upset some people can get over someone else. They get mad over some words on an internetforum, that is pathetic for 2 reasons:
- It is not even in real life, so why worry about someone who you probably never will meer anyways (i take it this is the same thing as the money/sales issues.)
- They never say who they are, so they basically don't want people to know who gave them bad karma, lol. So they some rats at the same time.
Peeps on this bitch here worry too much about other people, that's the cause. Just enjoy this forum, the music, and life, and leave the bullshit for the rodeo, you know.
I always thought you was a cool dude on this forum, someone who doesn;t just post shit for the postcount and actually put some more in then "props" or "cool" you know, but your post talked about fake Kurupt fans or something (i don't even know anymore, lol) and i just posted a post which had some critics about Kurupt a minute before that, so i thought your post was aimed at me, i'm sorry for takin' it the wrong way, like you said, a lil' misunderstanding.
Oh btw, put that pic up if you completed your collection, i'm curious to it. 8)
+1 Homie.
Yeah I was shocked at first and it made me look back at my posts to see what I said. LOL! I agree Kurupt is not the same mc he once was, but I more than anything with him just post or talk about some cool songs he has done recently or how I think he might improve his rhymes if he would focus more on what he is saying. He is FRUSTRATING to listen to at times knowing the material he did put out at one time, but I can still enjoy his stuff and I liked the last record.
I gave up on karma a long time ago. I guess I am not doing too bad. Tanj's numbers are +40 one week and minus 40 the next so I don't think it reflects the fact that there are some good points brought up by alot of people on this forum, especially about this subject. But yeah I take a beating when I mention a good G-Unit or Dipset album, but I don't give a shit.
Yeah I moved in another 200 albums, including alot of my classic west coast material. I am trying to buy the multimedia shelves that hold almost 800 cds and I know I am going to need about 4 or 5 of those so I am thinking about just building one. I got alot of free music when I worked at the Wherehouse but my collection is getting insane.
BTW, that new Young Buck is dope as fuck. My favorite artist out of the south.
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Bottom line there are about 20,000 diehard DPG fans who bought the Dogg Chit album and for the most part is has been getting good feedback, Against the Grain EP you might be able to count on both hands the amount of people who are gonna purchase that, Kurupt needs to fall back a little and not criticizethe fans for wanting to purchase anything he puts out because the DPG fans are real passionate about their music and want to hear anything new or old, Kurupt is my favorite MC of all time so I will always support dude, rite now bumping Push Bacc 8)
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Bottom line there are about 20,000 diehard DPG fans who bought the Dogg Chit album and for the most part is has been getting good feedback, Against the Grain EP you might be able to count on both hands the amount of people who are gonna purchase that, Kurupt needs to fall back a little and not criticizethe fans for wanting to purchase anything he puts out because the DPG fans are real passionate about their music and want to hear anything new or old, Kurupt is my favorite MC of all time so I will always support dude, rite now bumping Push Bacc 8)
I'm one of them 20,000 that cop'd Dogg Chit. It's really a good album tho. Kurupt is also one one my top MC's of all time too.
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As someone who's thought about this shit a GRIP, Please hear me out, any and all...especially Kurupt if you're out there reading like you say you are:
1. Fans- Kurupt took callin' out names off TSIAM. if you go buy a new copy of TSIAM, Callin out names is not on it anymore. Pisses me off. My old copy is messed up (constant use, real fan, that's the reason) so when I bought the new one it's only 17 tracks. No callin out names. which really sucks, cause his flow and delivery (not to mention fred wrecks production and cuts) are bonkers on that track, regardless of the 'negativity'.
2.Kurupt is misperceiving what he sees on the message board. Whenever a proper DPG album comes out or a Kurupt album, there's a gang of posts saying 'DPG fell off, Kurupt is whack now ' etc... and then when this EP was announced alot of cats were like "gonna cop this" Kurupt just added two and two together. The impression he gets from reading that is "these fools won't buy dogg chit, cia etc. but they'll buy this negative ass shit?" ..Kurupt, if you're reading,-This is NOT the case. I can guarantee you far more people on this board buy your shit than will buy this EP. No doubt.
3. Kurupt- People are not hating on you working with Puffy because he is from the east coast, people are hating on it because historically, Puffy is kind of whack. BUT I will be the first to say, that song is cool. which kind of leads to my next point.
4. I am VERY VERY offended as a fan by Kurupt. That EP gets made and he throws a tizzy, but when I make a SEVEN PAGE THREAD about Kurupt's discography and d-nice and I say a GRIP of positive shit....he doesn't notice. He has a fucking conniption over this EP and maybe 10 posts saying they want the EP and d-nice and I make a 9 PAGE threadt about Tha Dogg Pound's discography and Kurupt doesn't notice a single word of it. So he flips over the negative and can't even acknowledge the positive. That is BULLSHIT. That means it is HIM, KURUPT who is dwelling on the negative, not US. There is PLENTY PLENTY positive said about Kurupt here often and he's bitching at the 17 or so people that hate on him. That's weak, that's whack, that's american. That's why the news shows negative shit and not positive shit, cause people dwell on the negative and this "interview" with Kurupt is the ultimate proof that NOONE IS MORE GUILTY OF BEING NEGATIVE THAN KURUPT. Just look at the post numbers, how many HUNDREDS of posts were there in my dogg pound/kurupt discography thread? a fucking grip, and i bet you all but a few people in there have bought several Kurupt albums, including myself who have bought most of his albums, some multiple times. but does he notice that? No, he notices a few pages about the EP. It's not like my big ass, virtual tribute posts, were diascreetly labeled it said fuckin 'KURUPT DISCOGRAPHY' in the title, the DP thread had 'DOGG POUND DISCOGRAPHY' in the title and they were huge posts entailing over-all positive reviews of Kurupt and DPG records. I wouldn't be bitching so much about him not noticing my POSITIVE threads if he wasn't so mad at us for the negative ones. You have to acknowledge both sides to an issue, for him to just get pissed at the negative shit and act like the positive shit never happened trying to guilt us and shit....that's chickenshit...and that's worse than a fake fan, it's an artist who's not really giving a fuck about his REAL fans at all.
I bought Dogg Chit, I was planning on downloading this EP, and I bet you that's the main consensus on this board, Kurupt needs to chill.
5. Furthermore, I really like CIA AND ATG LPs. Thought both were dope, regardless of what they were talking about i thought the raps were dope and the beats were banging over-all. of course, anyone that read my DPG/Kurupt discog thread would know that.
6.Kurupt- people don't wanna hear this EP cause the negativity, they want to hear it cause they want to hear you. also, when you're mad, sometimes you flow in a dope different way and people like that. Honestly, you should be glad so many people are so enthusiastically talking about you/checking for you at all. Alot of rappers don't have that anymore, and any one can drop from the radar in minutes. Check more of the forum before you get all pissed at one post.
7. Lastly Kurupt, people don't hate on your new shit because of the content, people hate on the new shit because it sounds like it was more lazily put together often. Songs like 'keep it gangsta' from CIA and 'keep it movin' from that hi-tek joint prove that when you write a verse it's still dope....but we often get the impression you're not writing alot of your shit, but rather freestyling it on the spot which is cool sometimes....but we want to see you rip it up, with calculated skill on some HRSMN tip or something you know? because we know you can. and we don't care if it's negative or positive, we just want it to be dope and well done. Just put that fire in it, and we willl buy it, just like I've BEEN buying your records.
-T
Exactly.Well said man.
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I bet sum of you catz really aint gonna fuck with the atg ep becuz Kurupt said not to huh :laugh:
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As someone who's thought about this shit a GRIP, Please hear me out, any and all...especially Kurupt if you're out there reading like you say you are:
1. Fans- Kurupt took callin' out names off TSIAM. if you go buy a new copy of TSIAM, Callin out names is not on it anymore. Pisses me off. My old copy is messed up (constant use, real fan, that's the reason) so when I bought the new one it's only 17 tracks. No callin out names. which really sucks, cause his flow and delivery (not to mention fred wrecks production and cuts) are bonkers on that track, regardless of the 'negativity'.
2.Kurupt is misperceiving what he sees on the message board. Whenever a proper DPG album comes out or a Kurupt album, there's a gang of posts saying 'DPG fell off, Kurupt is whack now ' etc... and then when this EP was announced alot of cats were like "gonna cop this" Kurupt just added two and two together. The impression he gets from reading that is "these fools won't buy dogg chit, cia etc. but they'll buy this negative ass shit?" ..Kurupt, if you're reading,-This is NOT the case. I can guarantee you far more people on this board buy your shit than will buy this EP. No doubt.
3. Kurupt- People are not hating on you working with Puffy because he is from the east coast, people are hating on it because historically, Puffy is kind of whack. BUT I will be the first to say, that song is cool. which kind of leads to my next point.
4. I am VERY VERY offended as a fan by Kurupt. That EP gets made and he throws a tizzy, but when I make a SEVEN PAGE THREAD about Kurupt's discography and d-nice and I say a GRIP of positive shit....he doesn't notice. He has a fucking conniption over this EP and maybe 10 posts saying they want the EP and d-nice and I make a 9 PAGE threadt about Tha Dogg Pound's discography and Kurupt doesn't notice a single word of it. So he flips over the negative and can't even acknowledge the positive. That is BULLSHIT. That means it is HIM, KURUPT who is dwelling on the negative, not US. There is PLENTY PLENTY positive said about Kurupt here often and he's bitching at the 17 or so people that hate on him. That's weak, that's whack, that's american. That's why the news shows negative shit and not positive shit, cause people dwell on the negative and this "interview" with Kurupt is the ultimate proof that NOONE IS MORE GUILTY OF BEING NEGATIVE THAN KURUPT. Just look at the post numbers, how many HUNDREDS of posts were there in my dogg pound/kurupt discography thread? a fucking grip, and i bet you all but a few people in there have bought several Kurupt albums, including myself who have bought most of his albums, some multiple times. but does he notice that? No, he notices a few pages about the EP. It's not like my big ass, virtual tribute posts, were diascreetly labeled it said fuckin 'KURUPT DISCOGRAPHY' in the title, the DP thread had 'DOGG POUND DISCOGRAPHY' in the title and they were huge posts entailing over-all positive reviews of Kurupt and DPG records. I wouldn't be bitching so much about him not noticing my POSITIVE threads if he wasn't so mad at us for the negative ones. You have to acknowledge both sides to an issue, for him to just get pissed at the negative shit and act like the positive shit never happened trying to guilt us and shit....that's chickenshit...and that's worse than a fake fan, it's an artist who's not really giving a fuck about his REAL fans at all.
I bought Dogg Chit, I was planning on downloading this EP, and I bet you that's the main consensus on this board, Kurupt needs to chill.
5. Furthermore, I really like CIA AND ATG LPs. Thought both were dope, regardless of what they were talking about i thought the raps were dope and the beats were banging over-all. of course, anyone that read my DPG/Kurupt discog thread would know that.
6.Kurupt- people don't wanna hear this EP cause the negativity, they want to hear it cause they want to hear you. also, when you're mad, sometimes you flow in a dope different way and people like that. Honestly, you should be glad so many people are so enthusiastically talking about you/checking for you at all. Alot of rappers don't have that anymore, and any one can drop from the radar in minutes. Check more of the forum before you get all pissed at one post.
7. Lastly Kurupt, people don't hate on your new shit because of the content, people hate on the new shit because it sounds like it was more lazily put together often. Songs like 'keep it gangsta' from CIA and 'keep it movin' from that hi-tek joint prove that when you write a verse it's still dope....but we often get the impression you're not writing alot of your shit, but rather freestyling it on the spot which is cool sometimes....but we want to see you rip it up, with calculated skill on some HRSMN tip or something you know? because we know you can. and we don't care if it's negative or positive, we just want it to be dope and well done. Just put that fire in it, and we willl buy it, just like I've BEEN buying your records.
-T
Exactly.Well said man.
KURUPT JUST GOT ETHERED. GOOD POST TANJ.
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Great post Tanj...for the dude above me...if u really understood what Tanj was talkin about, I don't think u would have said Kurupt just got ethered...that statement just adds more fire and prevents further understanding.
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Kurupt just hit me up saying he just finished reading everything in the thread... He was overwhelmed, ya'll got him all emotional! He wanted to let everybody know that he really appreciated ya'll taking the time to adress all of this and speak to him, and that he was very surprised by how positive a lot of the responses were, he was expecting a big backlash after the interview, but most of ya'll, came off very supportive.
So he wants to thank everybody, those who had something positive to say, he loves ya'll, those who had something negative to say, he appreciates the feedback. He'll keep checking in with ya'll!
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Good shit, ssup with Daz? He was a member here, right? Why he ain't been writin anythin?
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yo Tang is you sure your new copy of TSIAM doesnt have callin out names on it?
cause I brought that album last week & callin out names isnt listed on the back but comes on after the joint wit krs like a hidden track or somethin.
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Good shit, ssup with Daz? He was a member here, right? Why he ain't been writin anythin?
He still reads, but I haven't seen him post lately.
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I hope that he lets mr shadow spit a 16 on his upcoming solo album.
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I hope that he lets mr shadow spit a 16 on his upcoming solo album.
knoc-turn'al for me ;D
i don't think they have ever been on the same song together, and that's a collabo that would be DOPE :o
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I understand Kurupt but as a fan I want to hear that songs.. Not that I want to beef them again .. I'm happy that DPG is back 2 together. I bought DoggChit but not Cali Is Active cuz I live in The Netherlands and they didn't released it here.. 2 bad cuz it's a descent album. Yo Kurupt release this song
Kurupt - I Don't Bang No More Ft Jewell & Dr.Dre
and than ya get the positive out of everybody!!
Peace
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Kurupt just hit me up saying he just finished reading everything in the thread... He was overwhelmed, ya'll got him all emotional! He wanted to let everybody know that he really appreciated ya'll taking the time to adress all of this and speak to him, and that he was very surprised by how positive a lot of the responses were, he was expecting a big backlash after the interview, but most of ya'll, came off very supportive.
So he wants to thank everybody, those who had something positive to say, he loves ya'll, those who had something negative to say, he appreciates the feedback. He'll keep checking in with ya'll!
I hope I wasn't considered negative especially considering he's one of my favorite artists, i was just saying he should see all the good we say before condemning the bad. either way, I'm glad that Kurupt got something out of this experience. props to you and him, Nima.
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Hey T you spoke as a true fan so if he can't see you speaking from that perspective then he has issues.
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Hey T you spoke as a true fan so if he can't see you speaking from that perspective then he has issues.
+1
-T
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Kurupt just hit me up saying he just finished reading everything in the thread... He was overwhelmed, ya'll got him all emotional! He wanted to let everybody know that he really appreciated ya'll taking the time to adress all of this and speak to him, and that he was very surprised by how positive a lot of the responses were, he was expecting a big backlash after the interview, but most of ya'll, came off very supportive.
So he wants to thank everybody, those who had something positive to say, he loves ya'll, those who had something negative to say, he appreciates the feedback. He'll keep checking in with ya'll!
I hope I wasn't considered negative especially considering he's one of my favorite artists, i was just saying he should see all the good we say before condemning the bad. either way, I'm glad that Kurupt got something out of this experience. props to you and him, Nima.
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Naw he wasn't talking about you!
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props to all on page
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www.dubcnn.com
(http://www.dubcnn.com/interviews/kurupt/kurupt.jpg)
Kurupt Young Gotti reached out to dubcnn to express his thoughts about an "Against The Grain EP" which was advertised on our message boards, which features diss tracks that Kurupt recorded while he was back on Death Row. These songs were never meant to come out, and Kurupt wanted to let everybody know how he feels about this bootleg.
Kurupt also speaks on people on the forums talking down on him, and fans supporting negativity in general. He wants everybody to know that this interview is in no way targeted towards real Dogg Pound fans, if you're a real Dogg Pound fan, this is not for you.
Enough talking though, you can read or listen to this interview. You really need to listen to it though, to hear the emotion and to feel where Kurupt was coming from.
FULL AUDIO: Click Here (http://www.dubcnm.com/audio/interviews/kurupt-against_the_grain_ep_interview_april07-(dubcnn).wma) (2.5MB, Windows Media)
http://www.dubcnn.com/interviews/kurupt/
Kurupt literally made me laugh out loud multiple times in the interview, but I agree with him. If you are supporting Against the Grain strictly because it's on some negativity, then F*CK YOU. I want the Dogg Pound to do well together. No more fracturing. They're a team, man. If you a Lakers fan, you shouldn't have enjoyed seeing Kobe and Shaq beefing.
By the same token, I wish Kurupt would spend some more time revising his rhymes to make them perfect and stuff like he did in the old days. Get back together with the D.O.C. and have him go over your lyrics.
Regardless though, Kurupt and Treach will ALWAYS be my favorite MCs, and Dogg Pound and Naughty by Nature will ALWAYS be my favorite group.
Props to Kurupt.
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Kurupt sounds like a lil bitch. I didn't hear him complaining about us supporting negativity when we were all excited over "Callin Out Names".
His point being that he learned his lesson from that and he doesn't want to go through that experience again. That's the difference.
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And lastly, my dream track would be a collaboration between Treach and Kurupt going back and forth on a track...will never happen, I know, but I think it would be an instant classic. 8)
I respect Kurupt immensly because no matter how hard I practiced rapping, I know I would never ever be as good a rapper as Kurupt is.
True story.
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yeah Kurupt is ill. I wanna hear it cause I thought ATG was a cool experiment with his whole sound. his production line up was all new, so it was like an alternate dimension of Kurupt you know? and I'm down for that music too cause ATG is really banging to me. but it was whack to me when I found out DPG broke up. damn, i'm blown.
-T