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Lifestyle => Tha G-Spot => Topic started by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on January 13, 2003, 08:25:39 PM
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Yo...Anyone know any secrets on how to be a good kisser, or have any advice on kissing?...I'd really appreciate it...Holla Back...PeACe
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Yeah homie just don't go TO crazy with your tongue... most bitches hate it if you go overboard with all that action... a little is allllll good though...
Peace
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Just Give'er
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Yeah,
Have her kiss your bellybutton then put it in her mouth...
That ALWAYS makes the girls hot. ;)
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Yea...Cuz this girl was kissing me on wednesday with tongue and all, and I felt like i did a bad job...Holla with some advice if ya'll have any...PeACe
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Well, I wasn't gonna say anything, but oh well, lol what the hay.
The best thing to do is to switch it up, don't just be all soft to her all night, she'll get bored, and don't try to cram your tongue down her throat all night, she'll get sick. You need to do different things, do what you think is fun, I always liked to suck on their bottom lip a little bit,it's just awesome, a little fatty and stuff. You're not trying to brush her teeth, just play with her tongue a little bit with yours. That's about all you need to know. Practice makes perfect.
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Oh, they like you to play with their hair too. Unless your hands are busy somewhere else.
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the best thing to do is to forget all advise, and just clear your mind and do whatever comes natural to you
back when i was starting out , i just tried to do what every one else was telling me to, but i just figured out the best thing to do is to not get nervous don't think of nothin' and just do whatever
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Girls always tell me they like it when I touch their face. And Kiss the neck too.
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All I can say is I never had a stratagy for kissing. I've been doing it for a while, and never plan shit. Just let it happen. Sometimes I'll touch her face, or gently rub my tongue on the ruff of her mouth, gently suck her bottom lip. But never for long, and never forceful. But I don't have stratagy, just experiment and shit, 'cause different girls like different things, and a lot of girls hate other things that other girls like, except that gentle romantic shit... LOL
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Tha gyrl im wit damm near gets wet when I play wit her HAIR while kissin and shit.....I dunno wtf, but it keeps her happy.....Dats good enough 4 me.....And fuc all these advices, Just dun go too krayzie wit yur tongue.....
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you dont slobber all over her lips... or stick your tongue.. to far where the poor girl will gag... best way to do it... is by just relaxing... take a deep breath and slowely stroke your tongue with hers... nothing wrong with those passionate peck kisses... but.. include tongue.. every now and then..
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LOL NIK has reached an all time low :-X haha jk...but common man, how can u go from askin acvice for sex to kissin? lmao work UP 8)
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Just make sure you move your mouth and toungue. I got laughed at in my first kissing experience in 6th grade. Because I froze up, and this girls friends told me that she said, "his mouth just stood there, still" and they laughed about it.
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i know u git confuzed sumtimes NIK...so id say tha best advice for u...on kissing, is first...
Grab her crotch area and make sure there aint a dick there...
;D
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Grab her crotch area and make sure there aint a dick there...
;D
lmao. made bad experiences?
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lad considering you say you can get girls and shit, you shud be good at kissing and fucking and shit, u seem to suck at them all.
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i know u git confuzed sumtimes NIK...so id say tha best advice for u...on kissing, is first...
Grab her crotch area and make sure there aint a dick there...
;D
HAHAHA, that's how he starts a date; he don't even take her word for it, goes
"Hold up a sec, before I let you get in the car, I gotta check somethin'"
LOL
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i know u git confuzed sumtimes NIK...so id say tha best advice for u...on kissing, is first...
Grab her crotch area and make sure there aint a dick there...
;D
HAHAHA, that's how he starts a date; he don't even take her word for it, goes
"Hold up a sec, before I let you get in the car, I gotta check somethin'"
LOL
OHHHHHHH ROTFLMAO Trauma that was some funny shit dude
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^^^
I Don't see NO KARMA, BROTHA!!!!!!!
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LOL dont worry dude, i just hit you up
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the best thing to do is to forget all advise, and just clear your mind and do whatever comes natural to you
The truest shit you ever spoke ;)
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LoL, what is with all these threads lately?
This forum must seem like "The Teen Sex-board" to ppl who just browses through..
Let's see:
Advice on kissing
Help, fuckin sexual activity
How to avoid gettin "bonnerz" in school N shit
etc..
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Just tryna master my game...You guys stop worryin about why I'm makin these threads...PeACe
P.S., some of you fools give the worst advice known to mankind...LoL
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LoL, what is with all these threads lately?
This forum must seem like "The Teen Sex-board" to ppl who just browses through..
Let's see:
Advice on kissing
Help, fuckin sexual activity
How to avoid gettin "bonnerz" in school N shit
etc..
Lol yea its Tha G-Spot! U need Help, we need clients!
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just stay totally relaxed..... NIK... it wont fail you... of course you probably already figured it all out by now... but go with it.. nd girls like laid back guys. unless they are looking for a gay friend... oh well
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just stay totally relaxed..... NIK... it wont fail you... of course you probably already figured it all out by now... but go with it.. nd girls like laid back guys. unless they are looking for a gay friend... oh well
No girls like laid back guys? Thats the dumbest comment I heard in my life...Most girls would take a mature, mellow, laid back type of guy over a hyper, immature, loud type of guy...LoL...Pink, please don't ever say something that dumb again...PeACe
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just stay totally relaxed..... NIK... it wont fail you... of course you probably already figured it all out by now... but go with it.. nd girls like laid back guys. unless they are looking for a gay friend... oh well
No girls like laid back guys? Thats the dumbest comment I heard in my life...Most girls would take a mature, mellow, laid back type of guy over a hyper, immature, loud type of guy...LoL...Pink, please don't ever say something that dumb again...PeACe
she probably meant to say "and girls like laid back guys"...not "no girls like laid back guys"...
awww well..........
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yeah she was saying "and".
pinks advice is right... just be yaself.. like before u said u told that girl u didnt know if u should kiss her or what. that shows things a girl wants to know. it shows that your honest and open with your emotions and not frontin ;) girls dig that shit if they're in for a relationship (if they're in for just "fun times" you'd know already know, coz believe me you wouldnt even be asking these q's). dont even go of just letting them think thats what they're seeing they'll see thru that. they're a lot more perceptive than you think. just loosen up, if ya feel uncomfortable with something let her know if she's cool its cool ;) bottlin shit up and worrying makes it worse and managin them squishy feelins in ya gut takes time too
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yeah she was saying "and".
pinks advice is right... just be yaself.. like before u said u told that girl u didnt know if u should kiss her or what. that shows things a girl wants to know. it shows that your honest and open with your emotions and not frontin ;) girls dig that shit if they're in for a relationship (if they're in for just "fun times" you'd know already know, coz believe me you wouldnt even be asking these q's). dont even go of just letting them think thats what they're seeing they'll see thru that. they're a lot more perceptive than you think. just loosen up, if ya feel uncomfortable with something let her know if she's cool its cool ;) bottlin shit up and worrying makes it worse and managin them squishy feelins in ya gut takes time too
That was beautiful man.
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yeah i meant girls like a laid back guy who is confident...
anways.. relax and just take it easly.... don rush it.. or you and her might feel wierded out by all the rushing..
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Just tryna master my game...You guys stop worryin about why I'm makin these threads...PeACe
P.S., some of you fools give the worst advice known to mankind...LoL
LOL look at this fool gettin all cocky cuz some black chick makes him "her bitch", LMAO. my advice was good man U jus gotta look at her reaction and when the sign is good then go for it...I even gave that hair test example, if she dont resist u play wit her hair then look in his eyes and her liips and eyes again and shell kno wasssup and go for the kill!
Girls do Like laid back guys, but they also like agressive alpha male types its all about confidence but the former tends to not hit on as much chicks so maybe dats y u think laid back guys dont get chicks...man mmore mature girls love laid back guys wit confidence. damn sccit dont be talkin so much shit....u like Narrators reincarnation So Much Shit baby
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yeah i meant girls like a laid back guy who is confident...
^^yup...girlz LUV a guy who they think doesnt care lol
soundz crazy....but damn, femalez are crazy anywayz. If a female see's that u really aint pressed about tryna get at em, they try tah get at u. But if u actually put in a buncha effort tah try n holla at em...then they think u a punk.
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Just tryna master my game...You guys stop worryin about why I'm makin these threads...PeACe
P.S., some of you fools give the worst advice known to mankind...LoL
LOL look at this fool gettin all cocky cuz some black chick makes him "her bitch", LMAO. my advice was good man U jus gotta look at her reaction and when the sign is good then go for it...I even gave that hair test example, if she dont resist u play wit her hair then look in his eyes and her liips and eyes again and shell kno wasssup and go for the kill!
Girls do Like laid back guys, but they also like agressive alpha male types its all about confidence but the former tends to not hit on as much chicks so maybe dats y u think laid back guys dont get chicks...man mmore mature girls love laid back guys wit confidence. damn sccit dont be talkin so much shit....u like Narrators reincarnation So Much Shit baby
Look...It's a 20 year old guy who's never touched a girl in his life...Now go to sleep Quake...PeACe
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LOL here iz da ugly wigger faggot who thinks hes all gangsta ::) both ur accusations r false, but all of mine r true, go figure.
ps. retard, im not even 18
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LOL here iz da ugly wigger faggot who thinks hes all gangsta ::) both ur accusations r false, but all of mine r true, go figure.
ps. retard, im not even 18
Go wash up in some cow piss...Werent u the one who said "Damn, I need to get some pussy, how can i get some?"...
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Hold on didnt you 2 used to date a few months ago?
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Hold on didnt you 2 used to date a few months ago?
Who? Me and ure mom? Naah, we never dated...She was just my hoe for a quick minute...
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Hold on didnt you 2 used to date a few months ago?
Who? Me and ure mom? Naah, we never dated...She was just my hoe for a quick minute...
A quick minute hey....oh shit yer, I heard you bust early.
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Hold on didnt you 2 used to date a few months ago?
Who? Me and ure mom? Naah, we never dated...She was just my hoe for a quick minute...
A quick minute hey....oh shit yer, I heard you bust early.
It looks like u guys are very far behind slang-wise down in the UK...
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Hold on didnt you 2 used to date a few months ago?
Who? Me and ure mom? Naah, we never dated...She was just my hoe for a quick minute...
A quick minute hey....oh shit yer, I heard you bust early.
It looks like u guys are very far behind slang-wise down in the UK...
Hmmmm....Yer you got me there!
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No more advice needed pals...Girl came over today said I was a really really good kisser...she kissed me at least 15 times......I didnt even kiss her once...All the times we kissed, she made the move...PeACe
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No more advice needed pals...Girl came over today said I was a really really good kisser...she kissed me at least 15 times......I didnt even kiss her once...All the times we kissed, she made the move...PeACe
Well done, mission successful. Now come here and give me a big wet lickery kiss.
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all dis iz crap!!! listen 2 wat i tell y'all... 4 them bitches kissin can sometimes be more important, then sex... dat's wat most of them told me... so yeah kissin iz very important. u want it 2 be good? play w/ her mind... they want 2 know dat u'll do everythin 4 her, make her think so by tryin 2 see wat she wants, how she's kissin, its a turn on 4 them, not the opposite... the same thang in 4play, payin enough attention 2 dat iz also significant.. yeah, and as soon she starts thinkin u r under her control, u swithc places and begin manipulatin her.. hehe, she'll do watever u ant from now on... Amen.. lolz
Chuuch!!!!!!
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all dis iz crap!!! listen 2 wat i tell y'all... 4 them bitches kissin can sometimes be more important, then sex... dat's wat most of them told me... so yeah kissin iz very important. u want it 2 be good? play w/ her mind... they want 2 know dat u'll do everythin 4 her, make her think so by tryin 2 see wat she wants, how she's kissin, its a turn on 4 them, not the opposite... the same thang in 4play, payin enough attention 2 dat iz also significant.. yeah, and as soon she starts thinkin u r under her control, u swithc places and begin manipulatin her.. hehe, she'll do watever u ant from now on... Amen.. lolz
Chuuch!!!!!!
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all dis iz crap!!! listen 2 wat i tell y'all... 4 them bitches kissin can sometimes be more important, then sex... dat's wat most of them told me... so yeah kissin iz very important. u want it 2 be good? play w/ her mind... they want 2 know dat u'll do everythin 4 her, make her think so by tryin 2 see wat she wants, how she's kissin, its a turn on 4 them, not the opposite... the same thang in 4play, payin enough attention 2 dat iz also significant.. yeah, and as soon she starts thinkin u r under her control, u swithc places and begin manipulatin her.. hehe, she'll do watever u ant from now on... Amen.. lolz
Chuuch!!!!!!
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all dis iz crap!!! listen 2 wat i tell y'all... 4 them bitches kissin can sometimes be more important, then sex... dat's wat most of them told me... so yeah kissin iz very important. u want it 2 be good? play w/ her mind... they want 2 know dat u'll do everythin 4 her, make her think so by tryin 2 see wat she wants, how she's kissin, its a turn on 4 them, not the opposite... the same thang in 4play, payin enough attention 2 dat iz also significant.. yeah, and as soon she starts thinkin u r under her control, u swithc places and begin manipulatin her.. hehe, she'll do watever u ant from now on... Amen.. lolz
Chuuch!!!!!!
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all dis iz crap!!! listen 2 wat i tell y'all... 4 them bitches kissin can sometimes be more important, then sex... dat's wat most of them told me... so yeah kissin iz very important. u want it 2 be good? play w/ her mind... they want 2 know dat u'll do everythin 4 her, make her think so by tryin 2 see wat she wants, how she's kissin, its a turn on 4 them, not the opposite... the same thang in 4play, payin enough attention 2 dat iz also significant.. yeah, and as soon she starts thinkin u r under her control, u swithc places and begin manipulatin her.. hehe, she'll do watever u ant from now on... Amen.. lolz
Chuuch!!!!!!
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all dis iz crap!!! listen 2 wat i tell y'all... 4 them bitches kissin can sometimes be more important, then sex... dat's wat most of them told me... so yeah kissin iz very important. u want it 2 be good? play w/ her mind... they want 2 know dat u'll do everythin 4 her, make her think so by tryin 2 see wat she wants, how she's kissin, its a turn on 4 them, not the opposite... the same thang in 4play, payin enough attention 2 dat iz also significant.. yeah, and as soon she starts thinkin u r under her control, u swithc places and begin manipulatin her.. hehe, she'll do watever u ant from now on... Amen.. lolz
Chuuch!!!!!!
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dam thats alot of the same posts right there. De Jar Vu like.
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dam thats alot of the same posts right there. De Jar Vu like.
LOLZ, i was just actin up...
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Thank u whoever banned him...LOL
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;D 8)
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No more advice needed pals...Girl came over today said I was a really really good kisser...she kissed me at least 15 times......I didnt even kiss her once...All the times we kissed, she made the move...PeACe
Yeah she makes the movies, cuz ur her bitch ;D
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No more advice needed pals...Girl came over today said I was a really really good kisser...she kissed me at least 15 times......I didnt even kiss her once...All the times we kissed, she made the move...PeACe
Yeah she makes the movies, cuz ur her bitch ;D
lol dam
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Finally that Snoop-groupie disappeared.. fuckin retard.
I bet he has Snoop-blankets, Snoop-pillow, Snoop-curtains, Snoop-desk, Snoop-bed, Snoop-pencil, Snoop-lamps, Snoop-condoms, Snoop-clothing etc.
* Waiting for Prince Tech to come into thread and confirm *
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is Snoop_Da_Boss the same guy aqs Slikkafella?
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is Snoop_Da_Boss the same guy aqs Slikkafella?
nah Snoop_Da_Boss was some dude from the university tech goes to
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ohh yeah.../. lmao... tech slap that foo
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Yo...Anyone know any secrets on how to be a good kisser, or have any advice on kissing?...I'd really appreciate it...Holla Back...PeACe
LMAO WTF??!?!!
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Yo...Anyone know any secrets on how to be a good kisser, or have any advice on kissing?...I'd really appreciate it...Holla Back...PeACe
LMAO WTF??!?!!
try hard much???
but it is funny
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Damn my 2nd daughter was born in 03. And ur learning how to kiss in 03.... damn im old
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Yea...Cuz this girl was kissing me on wednesday with tongue and all, and I felt like i did a bad job...Holla with some advice if ya'll have any...PeACe
this is a cool guy right there +1 good fellow
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haha damn
i know u git confuzed sumtimes NIK...so id say tha best advice for u...on kissing, is first...
Grab her crotch area and make sure there aint a dick there...
;D
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to be young again
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Yo...Anyone know any secrets on how to be a good kisser, or have any advice on kissing?...I'd really appreciate it...Holla Back...PeACe
LMAO WTF??!?!!
try hard much???
but it is funny
lol what do you mean "try hard?" I was looking for that thread about the new wigger rapper from houston and I stumbled upon this and I nearly shit myself.
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Starts with a kiss ends with a diss
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I almost flipped out until I saw the date of this thread lmao
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I almost flipped out until I saw the date of this thread lmao
lol
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Yo...Anyone know any secrets on how to be a good kisser, or have any advice on kissing?...I'd really appreciate it...Holla Back...PeACe
LMAO WTF??!?!!
LOL...as if you were even gettin females at the age of 15.
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LMAO @ kisisng advice. It's kinda self-explanatory.
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LOL
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haha what a loser
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not gonna give you advices, i gotta a beard and most of my exes were telling me to shave it off. Fuck kissing
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Yo...Anyone know any secrets on how to be a good kisser, or have any advice on kissing?...I'd really appreciate it...Holla Back...PeACe
LMAO WTF??!?!!
LOL...as if you were even gettin females at the age of 15.
LOL sit your ass down. I prolly had more bitches at 15 than you had in your whole life but this thread aint about and the bitches i was fuckin at 15. but since you wanna try to clown, its about you asking other niggas how to kiss on the internet like a 12 year old girl. I wasnt even tryna clown about it cause you was obviously young judgin by the date of the post, that shit is just funny that a) you were 15 and didn't know how to kiss and b) that you were insecure enough about it to ask the internet!
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NIK, just let the kiss flow naturally and feel like a dove flowing through the breeze.
-Not Likely
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Just pretend that the girl is Kobe...you'll be ok after that. ;D
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not gonna give you advices, i gotta a beard and most of my exes were telling me to shave it off. Fuck kissing
lol
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NIK, just let the kiss flow naturally and feel like a dove flowing through the breeze.
-Not Likely
LMAO
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ROFLMAO
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Yo...Anyone know any secrets on how to be a good kisser, or have any advice on kissing?...I'd really appreciate it...Holla Back...PeACe
LMAO WTF??!?!!
LOL...as if you were even gettin females at the age of 15.
LOL sit your ass down. I prolly had more bitches at 15 than you had in your whole life but this thread aint about and the bitches i was fuckin at 15. but since you wanna try to clown, its about you asking other niggas how to kiss on the internet like a 12 year old girl. I wasnt even tryna clown about it cause you was obviously young judgin by the date of the post, that shit is just funny that a) you were 15 and didn't know how to kiss and b) that you were insecure enough about it to ask the internet!
LOL...a 15 year old wanting advice on how to be a good kisser...how pathetic!
i bet you're a virgin.
and for the slow ones, this thread is 6+ years old.
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15 years old isnt really that young. arent you jewish? shit accordingto your religion you were already a man for 2 years
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15 years old isnt really that young. arent you jewish? shit accordingto your religion you were already a man for 2 years
never said it was that young, but to wanna know advice on makin out with bitches at that age isn't supposed to be a bad thing...lol, this board is mostly made up of adult virgins in the first place. man up, you childish ass bitches. i bet most of you dubcc fruitcups still couldnt kiss a bitch for shit if your life depended on it.
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nik how old are you now ? 21 ?
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haha man thats funny, at 15 i was worried about this kind of shit too
thats why looking back at our younger days its hilarious to see how priorities changed so much
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15 years old isnt really that young. arent you jewish? shit accordingto your religion you were already a man for 2 years
never said it was that young, but to wanna know advice on makin out with bitches at that age isn't supposed to be a bad thing...lol, this board is mostly made up of adult virgins in the first place. man up, you childish ass bitches. i bet most of you dubcc fruitcups still couldnt kiss a bitch for shit if your life depended on it.
LMAO
Sccit you cant blame the Euros dude they have horrible teeth
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Yo...Anyone know any secrets on how to be a good kisser, or have any advice on kissing?...I'd really appreciate it...Holla Back...PeACe
LMAO WTF??!?!!
LOL...as if you were even gettin females at the age of 15.
LOL sit your ass down. I prolly had more bitches at 15 than you had in your whole life but this thread aint about and the bitches i was fuckin at 15. but since you wanna try to clown, its about you asking other niggas how to kiss on the internet like a 12 year old girl. I wasnt even tryna clown about it cause you was obviously young judgin by the date of the post, that shit is just funny that a) you were 15 and didn't know how to kiss and b) that you were insecure enough about it to ask the internet!
LOL...a 15 year old wanting advice on how to be a good kisser...how pathetic!
i bet you're a virgin.
and for the slow ones, this thread is 6+ years old.
LOL sure buddy, I'm the virgin, but when I was 15 I was GETTING PUSSY. When you were 15 you knew so little about KISSING you had to ask dubcc how to do it! LMAO get the fuck outta here you ol cuddly ass nigga!
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Yo...Anyone know any secrets on how to be a good kisser, or have any advice on kissing?...I'd really appreciate it...Holla Back...PeACe
LMAO WTF??!?!!
LOL...as if you were even gettin females at the age of 15.
LOL sit your ass down. I prolly had more bitches at 15 than you had in your whole life but this thread aint about and the bitches i was fuckin at 15. but since you wanna try to clown, its about you asking other niggas how to kiss on the internet like a 12 year old girl. I wasnt even tryna clown about it cause you was obviously young judgin by the date of the post, that shit is just funny that a) you were 15 and didn't know how to kiss and b) that you were insecure enough about it to ask the internet!
LOL...a 15 year old wanting advice on how to be a good kisser...how pathetic!
i bet you're a virgin.
and for the slow ones, this thread is 6+ years old.
LOL sure buddy, I'm the virgin, but when I was 15 I was GETTING PUSSY. When you were 15 you knew so little about KISSING you had to ask dubcc how to do it! LMAO get the fuck outta here you ol cuddly ass nigga!
yea, cuz wanting to improve on something is terrible. i knew your pops was rapin u at 15, but what does that have to do with asking advice?
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Yo...Anyone know any secrets on how to be a good kisser, or have any advice on kissing?...I'd really appreciate it...Holla Back...PeACe
LMAO WTF??!?!!
LOL...as if you were even gettin females at the age of 15.
LOL sit your ass down. I prolly had more bitches at 15 than you had in your whole life but this thread aint about and the bitches i was fuckin at 15. but since you wanna try to clown, its about you asking other niggas how to kiss on the internet like a 12 year old girl. I wasnt even tryna clown about it cause you was obviously young judgin by the date of the post, that shit is just funny that a) you were 15 and didn't know how to kiss and b) that you were insecure enough about it to ask the internet!
LOL...a 15 year old wanting advice on how to be a good kisser...how pathetic!
i bet you're a virgin.
and for the slow ones, this thread is 6+ years old.
LOL sure buddy, I'm the virgin, but when I was 15 I was GETTING PUSSY. When you were 15 you knew so little about KISSING you had to ask dubcc how to do it! LMAO get the fuck outta here you ol cuddly ass nigga!
yea, cuz wanting to improve on something is terrible. i knew your pops was rapin u at 15, but what does that have to do with asking advice?
lol I would love to engage in a battle of wits with you, but you're clearly unarmed.
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^wits? no wit involved in you lackin bitches to fuck...u make it too obvious, homie. tryna clown a 15 year old on wanting to improve his kissing skills like you're some pimp ass mack. come on, son...everyone knows im the only one on wcc who gets pussy.
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^wits? no wit involved in you lackin bitches to fuck...u make it too obvious, homie. tryna clown a 15 year old on wanting to improve his kissing skills like you're some pimp ass mack. come on, son...everyone knows im the only one on wcc who gets pussy.
you got a gf it doesnt count ;D
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^wits? no wit involved in you lackin bitches to fuck...u make it too obvious, homie. tryna clown a 15 year old on wanting to improve his kissing skills like you're some pimp ass mack. come on, son...everyone knows im the only one on wcc who gets pussy.
LOL no YOU think I'm tryna act like some "pimp ass mack" (god dammit I feel so corny even quoting you on that. LMAO "pimp ass mack?" GTFOH) because you get so little pussy that you think its impossible for a 15 year old to actually get pussy. I mean come on for God's sake, you think I dont get no ass but I was fuckin before you knew how to kiss!
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How did this thread turn even funnier and lamer then it already was?
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Yea...Cuz this girl was kissing me on wednesday with tongue and all, and I felt like i did a bad job...Holla with some advice if ya'll have any...PeACe
hahahahahhahahahaha WHAT
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Yea...Cuz this girl was kissing me on wednesday with tongue and all, and I felt like i did a bad job...Holla with some advice if ya'll have any...PeACe
hahahahahhahahahaha WHAT
I guess it can be confirmed that this loser has always been a weenie
he hasn't come far from those days... still acting like a little kid :laugh:
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"pimp ass mack". only in suburbia.
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How did this thread turn even funnier and lamer then it already was?
Because NIK has had 6 more years to become even more lame.
I like how people are clownin on his lack of skills, and he has the defense of "hey what's wrong with wanting to improve yourself" and then simultaneously makes fun of whatever members of the board hadn't got pussy yet. Somehow he still doesn't see why people don't take him serious.
Back to the subject, I first made out with a chick in 6th grade while watching a movie at the theater. At middle school dances all the guys competed w/ each other to see who could "get some". I remember I had a bet w/ a homie that I could kiss my girl longer than he could kiss his...I went an entire song pretty much (about 3 mins) sure as hell that motherfucker blows me outta the water w/ like 20 mins lol.
And then in my mid-late teens / early 20's I had a steady count of how many broads I banged. Used to be real proud of it, but now I couldn't guess w/ much accuracy - too many fuzzy nights. Funny how when you get older that stuff becomes inconsequential but it's still funny.
If I was 15 and one of my friends was posting on the internet about how to kiss, he would have gotten clowned relentlessly at the time.
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pimp ass mack haha
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And then in my mid-late teens / early 20's I had a steady count of how many broads I banged. Used to be real proud of it, but now I couldn't guess w/ much accuracy - too many fuzzy nights.
How the fuck old are you man? Come the hell on with that shit lol. Starting to think DubC is all 1. Fags 2. Eurofags 3. Old people
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^^^LMAO great post!
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And then in my mid-late teens / early 20's I had a steady count of how many broads I banged. Used to be real proud of it, but now I couldn't guess w/ much accuracy - too many fuzzy nights.
How the fuck old are you man? Come the hell on with that shit lol. Starting to think DubC is all 1. Fags 2. Eurofags 3. Old people
lol i'm 28...Fuck that, we need some wise elders on this board to guide the youth. Some of you young bucks have a brotha like me concerned for the future...
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And then in my mid-late teens / early 20's I had a steady count of how many broads I banged. Used to be real proud of it, but now I couldn't guess w/ much accuracy - too many fuzzy nights.
How the fuck old are you man? Come the hell on with that shit lol. Starting to think DubC is all 1. Fags 2. Eurofags 3. Old people
lol i'm 28...Fuck that, we need some wise elders on this board to guide the youth. Some of you young bucks have a brotha like me concerned for the future...
lol for real. and since we on the subject of advice for kissing, here is lesson #1 - never ask another man how to kiss
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"pimp ass mack". only in suburbia.
lol...the whiteboy from canada...also clearly has no game.
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And then in my mid-late teens / early 20's I had a steady count of how many broads I banged. Used to be real proud of it, but now I couldn't guess w/ much accuracy - too many fuzzy nights.
How the fuck old are you man? Come the hell on with that shit lol. Starting to think DubC is all 1. Fags 2. Eurofags 3. Old people
LMAO seriously...why do these fags feel the need to brag and look cool on the internet? telling stories and shit hahaha. tryna look all hard like they never wanted advice, and then tryna laugh cuz im clownin their obvious lack of game...that's right, i said pimp ass mack. none of yall are pimpin shit, and none of yall can mack a fee like me...guaranteed. who cares if i was 15 and not scared to ask for advice on shit...thats part of what made me the tremendous muthafucka i am today. yall can suck a fatty. 8)
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youve got problems
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"pimp ass mack". only in suburbia.
lol...the whiteboy from canada...also clearly has no game.
I'm not from Canada.
You are white too. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_race (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_race)
You went on the internet in search of life skills you were better off learning through real life.
Stop being so bitter. It's not a good look.
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"pimp ass mack". only in suburbia.
lol...the whiteboy from canada...also clearly has no game.
I'm not from Canada.
You are white too. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_race (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_race)
You went on the internet in search of life skills you were better off learning through real life.
Stop being so bitter. It's not a good look.
im not bitter, i just think yall are gay for caring that a 15 year old wanted advice on mackin females from the internet. who wants to ask real life homies for advice on shit like that?...and who didnt do stupid shit when they were 15 to begin with? im just sayin, yall are marks for hoppin on the dick.
and im not white...by that definition, a lot of foreign ethnicities would be considered white, which doesn't really happen.
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Why is your race such a source of contention for you? Are you that insecure and wiggerish you need to identify yourself as someone other than suburban and Caucasian? WHO ARE YOU ELIOR WHO ARE YOU? lol
Stop talking like you're from the btw, not a good look.
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Why is your race such a source of contention for you? Are you that insecure and wiggerish you need to identify yourself as someone other than suburban and Caucasian? WHO ARE YOU ELIOR WHO ARE YOU? lol
Stop talking like you're from the btw, not a good look.
wtf are you talking about, fruitcake? i'm israeli...lmao. what a fuckin idiot.
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"pimp ass mack". only in suburbia.
lol...the whiteboy from canada...also clearly has no game.
I'm not from Canada.
You are white too. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_race (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_race)
You went on the internet in search of life skills you were better off learning through real life.
Stop being so bitter. It's not a good look.
im not bitter, i just think yall are gay for caring that a 15 year old wanted advice on mackin females from the internet. who wants to ask real life homies for advice on shit like that?...and who didnt do stupid shit when they were 15 to begin with? im just sayin, yall are marks for hoppin on the dick.
and im not white...by that definition, a lot of foreign ethnicities would be considered white, which doesn't really happen.
lol nobody "cares." We just think its funny. and sorry to have to be the one to break the news, but Jews are white.
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this thread rules
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NIK, just let the kiss flow naturally and feel like a dove flowing through the breeze.
-Not Likely
LMAO ;D
this thread is on some classic shit hahahaa
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"pimp ass mack". only in suburbia.
lol...the whiteboy from canada...also clearly has no game.
I'm not from Canada.
You are white too. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_race (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_race)
You went on the internet in search of life skills you were better off learning through real life.
Stop being so bitter. It's not a good look.
im not bitter, i just think yall are gay for caring that a 15 year old wanted advice on mackin females from the internet. who wants to ask real life homies for advice on shit like that?...and who didnt do stupid shit when they were 15 to begin with? im just sayin, yall are marks for hoppin on the dick.
and im not white...by that definition, a lot of foreign ethnicities would be considered white, which doesn't really happen.
lol nobody "cares." We just think its funny. and sorry to have to be the one to break the news, but Jews are white.
"Jews are white"...LOL...what an idiot. Jews can be any race. :stupid:
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I actually agree with NIK. the dude was only 15 and wanted some advice. we all have needed advice on one thing or another and STILL DO.
I'm actually surprised I even got laid at 15 LOL.
those were the days...
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"pimp ass mack". only in suburbia.
lol...the whiteboy from canada...also clearly has no game.
I'm not from Canada.
You are white too. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_race (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_race)
You went on the internet in search of life skills you were better off learning through real life.
Stop being so bitter. It's not a good look.
im not bitter, i just think yall are gay for caring that a 15 year old wanted advice on mackin females from the internet. who wants to ask real life homies for advice on shit like that?...and who didnt do stupid shit when they were 15 to begin with? im just sayin, yall are marks for hoppin on the dick.
and im not white...by that definition, a lot of foreign ethnicities would be considered white, which doesn't really happen.
lol nobody "cares." We just think its funny. and sorry to have to be the one to break the news, but Jews are white.
"Jews are white"...LOL...what an idiot. Jews can be any race. :stupid:
technically yes, but in reality when people think of Jews they think of these
(http://arjewtino.com/wp-content/uploads/orthodox-jews-2.JPG)
not these
(http://afronetizen.blogs.com/afronetizen/sammy_davis.jpg)
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only kissing done is the kiss on my little bawse. bawse.
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"pimp ass mack". only in suburbia.
lol...the whiteboy from canada...also clearly has no game.
I'm not from Canada.
You are white too. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_race (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_race)
You went on the internet in search of life skills you were better off learning through real life.
Stop being so bitter. It's not a good look.
im not bitter, i just think yall are gay for caring that a 15 year old wanted advice on mackin females from the internet. who wants to ask real life homies for advice on shit like that?...and who didnt do stupid shit when they were 15 to begin with? im just sayin, yall are marks for hoppin on the dick.
and im not white...by that definition, a lot of foreign ethnicities would be considered white, which doesn't really happen.
lol nobody "cares." We just think its funny. and sorry to have to be the one to break the news, but Jews are white.
"Jews are white"...LOL...what an idiot. Jews can be any race. :stupid:
technically yes, but in reality when people think of Jews they think of these
(http://arjewtino.com/wp-content/uploads/orthodox-jews-2.JPG)
not these
(http://afronetizen.blogs.com/afronetizen/sammy_davis.jpg)
those are white american jews, dumbass...have you seen what israelis from israel look like? you're basically saying arabs, persians, and all middle-easterns are white. soundin stupid as fuck.
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whatever, YOU are still white. It is obvious from your unapologetic use of the term "pimp ass mack"
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whatever, YOU are still white. It is obvious from your unapologetic use of the term "pimp ass mack"
i was being sarcastic, dumbass. and if you called me white in front of anyone else, they'd think you were a retard. do i really look white to you? explain why the only place ive ever gotten that was this message board. some of you bitches on this site really are dumber than dumb.
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whatever, YOU are still white. It is obvious from your unapologetic use of the term "pimp ass mack"
i was being sarcastic, dumbass. and if you called me white in front of anyone else, they'd think you were a retard. do i really look white to you? explain why the only place ive ever gotten that was this message board. some of you bitches on this site really are dumber than dumb.
I've never seen you so I don't know if you are actually white, but I do know that you put the words pimp, ass and mack together and thought it was cool. Either really white, or really suburban.
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You should all kiss eachother cuz you straight up sound like a bunch of females
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whatever, YOU are still white. It is obvious from your unapologetic use of the term "pimp ass mack"
i was being sarcastic, dumbass. and if you called me white in front of anyone else, they'd think you were a retard. do i really look white to you? explain why the only place ive ever gotten that was this message board. some of you bitches on this site really are dumber than dumb.
I've never seen you so I don't know if you are actually white, but I do know that you put the words pimp, ass and mack together and thought it was cool. Either really white, or really suburban.
yea, i was trying my hardest to sound cool there. caught me red-handed!...btw, aren't you white? i coulda sworn you were just by your style of posting, so wtf are u on to begin with?
(http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/7597/licensezm5.jpg)
^and if you think that's white, you a fuckin moron.
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NIK you could pass for mexican you look like my cousin Jorge :D
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lmao
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NIK you could pass for mexican you look like my cousin Jorge :D
I believe its pronounced....."Yorge"! ;D
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NIK you could pass for mexican you look like my cousin Jorge :D
but how is that possible? according to these idiots I'm white...LOL. sometimes i think they say it to make themselves feel better about who they are.
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NIK you could pass for mexican you look like my cousin Jorge :D
I believe its pronounced....."Yorge"! ;D
Or Whore-Hey
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JORGE?? HAHAHAHAAHAHHA
perfect thread
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all dis iz crap!!! listen 2 wat i tell y'all... 4 them bitches kissin can sometimes be more important, then sex... dat's wat most of them told me... so yeah kissin iz very important. u want it 2 be good? play w/ her mind... they want 2 know dat u'll do everythin 4 her, make her think so by tryin 2 see wat she wants, how she's kissin, its a turn on 4 them, not the opposite... the same thang in 4play, payin enough attention 2 dat iz also significant.. yeah, and as soon she starts thinkin u r under her control, u swithc places and begin manipulatin her.. hehe, she'll do watever u ant from now on... Amen.. lolz
Chuuch!!!!!!
hahahahahaha
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NIK you could pass for mexican you look like my cousin Jorge :D
but how is that possible? according to these idiots I'm white...LOL. sometimes i think they say it to make themselves feel better about who they are.
True, cus there are no white Mexicans...
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this thread deserves a bump :laugh:
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this thread deserves a bump :laugh:
NIK's mom does too
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Remember this is the guy who only speaks the real and we are all envious of lol
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^if i wasnt real i wouldn't have the nuts to ask something like this....such as yourself, nutless. you're probably the type of fag who's scared to ask for directions when he's lost.
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Lol stop defending yourself for asking for advice for kissing on an internet forum.dude if someone took a survey of 100 people and said what do you think of a guy that asks for advice for kissing on an hip hop forum I bet you every single one says your a loser.
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Lol stop defending yourself for asking for advice for kissing on an internet forum.dude if someone took a survey of 100 people and said what do you think of a guy that asks for advice for kissing on an hip hop forum I bet you every single one says your a loser.
stop trying, son...i'm not guna feel ashamed over asking advice on kissing when i was 15. get over it and go find someone elses nuts to ride.
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Lol you can't even admit your a loser.you live on this forum its quite sad I feel sorry for you
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Lol you can't even admit your a loser.you live on this forum its quite sad I feel sorry for you
I'm at work, making money to post, ya bitch. you're spending your FREE time riding my nuts...I owe you one ;)
foreal, though, go get some pussy or something...
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NIK's a cool guy
quit hating
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Dude 90 percent of my posts are made while I'm at work
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Haha, damn.
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who cares, wow a teenager asks for advice in kissing, that's a first..... not.
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Mono nucleosus
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Mono nucleosus
The disease of whores.
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Now_i_know you asking people on the internet for advice on kissing?
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;D
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upping for King Petey to see
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wtf is this bullshit?
is this serious....LMFOAAOAOAOAOJKDOAJKDOJIODODOIODIOAKDOPsfkFK
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wtf is this bullshit?
is this serious....LMFOAAOAOAOAOJKDOAJKDOJIODODOIODIOAKDOPsfkFK
and I'm supposed to believe this same nigga NIK is now fucking mad dimes?
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NIK was 17 or 18 when he started this thread btw
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only a GEEK would ask for advice on kissing on a FORUM.
fruitcup stays losing. :loser:
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Yea...Cuz this girl was kissing me on wednesday with tongue and all, and I felt like i did a bad job...Holla with some advice if ya'll have any...PeACe
He was freaked out by the tongue HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA.
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Yea...Cuz this girl was kissing me on wednesday with tongue and all, and I felt like i did a bad job...Holla with some advice if ya'll have any...PeACe
He was freaked out by the tongue HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA.
NIK is scared of the pussy LMAO
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Yo...Anyone know any secrets on how to be a good kisser, or have any advice on kissing?...I'd really appreciate it...Holla Back...PeACe
LMAO WTF??!?!!
LOL...as if you were even gettin females at the age of 15.
LOL sit your ass down. I prolly had more bitches at 15 than you had in your whole life but this thread aint about and the bitches i was fuckin at 15. but since you wanna try to clown, its about you asking other niggas how to kiss on the internet like a 12 year old girl. I wasnt even tryna clown about it cause you was obviously young judgin by the date of the post, that shit is just funny that a) you were 15 and didn't know how to kiss and b) that you were insecure enough about it to ask the internet!
LOL...a 15 year old wanting advice on how to be a good kisser...how pathetic!
i bet you're a virgin.
and for the slow ones, this thread is 6+ years old.
Damn have a sense of humor, Elior. If you can't find humor in this thread then you take yourself way too seriously.
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Yo...Anyone know any secrets on how to be a good kisser, or have any advice on kissing?...I'd really appreciate it...Holla Back...PeACe
LMAO WTF??!?!!
LOL...as if you were even gettin females at the age of 15.
LOL sit your ass down. I prolly had more bitches at 15 than you had in your whole life but this thread aint about and the bitches i was fuckin at 15. but since you wanna try to clown, its about you asking other niggas how to kiss on the internet like a 12 year old girl. I wasnt even tryna clown about it cause you was obviously young judgin by the date of the post, that shit is just funny that a) you were 15 and didn't know how to kiss and b) that you were insecure enough about it to ask the internet!
LOL...a 15 year old wanting advice on how to be a good kisser...how pathetic!
i bet you're a virgin.
and for the slow ones, this thread is 6+ years old.
Damn have a sense of humor, Elior. If you can't find humor in this thread then you take yourself way too seriously.
Not sure if he was talking about Floyd in this thread...but the first word of advice I'd give would be, dont eat anything before kissing. If your breath even smells like food....she more than likely will, eat your tongue.
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Not sure if he was talking about Floyd in this thread...but the first word of advice I'd give would be, dont eat anything before kissing. If your breath even smells like food....she more than likely will, eat your tongue.
LMAO
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i cant believe i wasted time even creating disses and meme generators for this nerd.
hes not worthy.
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i cant believe i wasted time even creating disses and meme generators for this nerd.
hes not worthy.
hahaha but the meme's are great. he's stuck in a world where LA is everything and if you aren't from there you aren't worthy of being cool to him
and if you are from there he'll find another reason to diss you
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Not sure if he was talking about Floyd in this thread...
It's gotta be. Its just sad Nik lost his virginity to an experienced hoe and stayed with her. This is the girl who married another dude just to get money for a nosejob.
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Not sure if he was talking about Floyd in this thread...
It's gotta be. Its just sad Nik lost his virginity to an experienced hoe and stayed with her. This is the girl who married another dude just to get money for a nosejob.
Floyd getting a nose job is like taking a run down, fat, disgusting building...and putting a new door on it.
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Not sure if he was talking about Floyd in this thread...
It's gotta be. Its just sad Nik lost his virginity to an experienced hoe and stayed with her. This is the girl who married another dude just to get money for a nosejob.
Floyd getting a nose job is like taking a run down, fat, disgusting building...and putting a new door on it.
at least the building can serve a purpose
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funniest thread ever
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Not sure if he was talking about Floyd in this thread...
It's gotta be. Its just sad Nik lost his virginity to an experienced hoe and stayed with her. This is the girl who married another dude just to get money for a nosejob.
Floyd getting a nose job is like taking a run down, fat, disgusting building...and putting a new door on it.
at least the building can serve a purpose
LOL
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Not sure if he was talking about Floyd in this thread...
It's gotta be. Its just sad Nik lost his virginity to an experienced hoe and stayed with her. This is the girl who married another dude just to get money for a nosejob.
Floyd getting a nose job is like taking a run down, fat, disgusting building...and putting a new door on it.
at least the building can serve a purpose
Have you ever had a car...and you thought, "man...i wish I had a better lookin car". Then some fool pulls up next to you in a beat up 84 Ford Pinto? And now you feel better about the shit you drivin??
Thats kinda the same purpose Floyd serves.
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NIK was 17 or 18 when he started this thread btw
15, groupie...
my nuts are starting to sag really bad.
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my nuts are starting to sag really bad.
WTF? :-\
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ah ah ah nik practices on balloons and mannequins
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my nuts are starting to sag really bad.
WTF? :-\
I figured they hadnt dropped yet
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my nuts are starting to sag really bad.
WTF? :-\
wait wait...he has nuts??
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LMAO @ NIK AND HIS GAYNESS
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Yo...Anyone know any secrets on how to be a good kisser, or have any advice on kissing?...I'd really appreciate it...Holla Back...PeACe
smh
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this thread deserves a bump :laugh:
NIK's mom does too
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only a GEEK would ask for advice on kissing on a FORUM.
fruitcup stays losing. :loser:
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only a GEEK would ask for advice on kissing on a FORUM.
fruitcup stays losing. :loser:
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(http://www.midwestsportsfans.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/mj-laughing.gif)
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:-*
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LMAO @ NIK AND HIS GAYNESS
Fucking nerds arent even this bad. It must be that fag gene he has, which is why he didn't know what to do with girls. That shit just explains everything.
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Blasphemy, quit lyin. Uv never kissed a girl in ur life. All good, secret safe with me.
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Blasphemy, quit lyin. Uv never kissed a girl in ur life. All good, secret safe with me.
While you being scared about the tongue, and kissing a bitch, I was fucking nutting in em. Go get your eye brows permed or whatever bitch shit you do. Woodland hills OG
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So at age 14, u were nutting in girls?
Ur dumbass kind is the reason that gayass teen mom show airs on MTV... Pull out, u dumb Mexican
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So at age 14, u were nutting in girls?
Ur dumbass kind is the reason that gayass teen mom show airs on MTV... Pull out, u dumb Mexican
It's called the condom and the pill. The only ones I knew going in unwrapped where the blacks and some of the more ignorant vatos.
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Blasphemy, quit lyin. Uv never kissed a girl in ur life. All good, secret safe with me.
attacking someone with false information again? how insecure
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only bumping because Tom asked me to
he also asked me to support my local deli and not go to Subway anymore lmao
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Yea...Cuz this girl was kissing me on wednesday with tongue and all, and I felt like i did a bad job...Holla with some advice if ya'll have any...PeACe
LMAO "i felt like i did a bad job"
this bumps for Tommy, go mets
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The softer and slower the better, in my experience.
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How many girls have you kissed by now?
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i wonder how many faggots on here have never kissed a girl.
im lookin at you will and elano.
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i wonder how many faggots on here have never kissed a girl.
im lookin at you will and elano.
:-[
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How many girls have you kissed by now?
if u know how many girls uv kissed, then u haven't kissed enough
How many gats have u shoved in your pussy?
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How many girls have you kissed by now?
if u know how many girls uv kissed, then u haven't kissed enough
quoted for truth
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I've kissed only 5 girls in my life, realness.
when it comes to getting knob though, that's where I can't keep track :P
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How many girls have you kissed by now?
if u know how many girls uv kissed, then u haven't kissed enough
How many gats have u shoved in your pussy?
LOL
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How many girls have you kissed by now?
if u know how many girls uv kissed, then u haven't kissed enough
How many gats have u shoved in your pussy?
LOL
:D
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How many girls have you kissed by now?
if u know how many girls uv kissed, then u haven't kissed enough
How many gats have u shoved in your pussy?
LOL
didn't catch that one at first til I read dude's username :D
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How many girls have you kissed by now?
if u know how many girls uv kissed, then u haven't kissed enough
How many gats have u shoved in your pussy?
LOL
How is that funny?
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How many girls have you kissed by now?
if u know how many girls uv kissed, then u haven't kissed enough
How many gats have u shoved in your pussy?
LOL
How is that funny?
well your name is "kahnt-gat" which sounds like "cunt gat"... you figure the rest out 8)
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poor nikky :-*
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How many girls have you kissed by now?
if u know how many girls uv kissed, then u haven't kissed enough
How many gats have u shoved in your pussy?
LOL
How is that funny?
lmao..poor pussygun, wasnt really the sharpest tool in the shed growin up
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*waits for comedy connoisseur will b to come in here and tell nik it wasnt funny*
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In my persenal expairience I realised that tha slower u kissed her tha better... most girlz don't like it wheyn u be hell of aggression an shiiet!!! Take ya time, get her in da mude, mayby litt sum condles and try to romanse her!!!! Goodlukk!! ;D
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nah they fantasize about being kissed all softly n shit but they dont like that unless shes a bore.
how do you like to kiss your mom will since thats the only experience u ever had kissin a woman?
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yeah common sense it's better to start slow with a chick but if she wants to get all wild and aggressive I'll go right with it... like for example the last chick I was with, I would always be "respectful" and just be kissing on her but then she's the one who would put my hand up her shirt/in her pants/around her throat/etc. 8)
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yeah common sense it's better to start slow with a chick but if she wants to get all wild and aggressive I'll go right with it... like for example the last chick I was with, I would always be "respectful" and just be kissing on her but then she's the one who would put my hand up her shirt/in her pants/around her throat/etc. 8)
thats a good girl.
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yeah common sense it's better to start slow with a chick but if she wants to get all wild and aggressive I'll go right with it... like for example the last chick I was with, I would always be "respectful" and just be kissing on her but then she's the one who would put my hand up her shirt/in her pants/around her throat/etc. 8)
thats a good girl.
I low key miss her lol
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:-*
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smh carlton gettin desperate now, bumpin threads from when i was 14
:snoopfacepalm:
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smh carlton gettin desperate now, bumpin threads from when i was 14
:snoopfacepalm:
Did this thread benefit you? I'm gonna go with no because I never saw a girl in the truck with you. Only hairy men.
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smh carlton gettin desperate now, bumpin threads from when i was 14
:snoopfacepalm:
Did this thread benefit you? I'm gonna go with no because I never saw a girl in the truck with you. Only hairy men.
not this thread specifically .. i forget who, but someone off this forum who saw the sexual activity (lmao) thread told me to read a book called “multi orgasmic man” though. that shit had some gems in it.
at least my advice threads was for girls tho... you were tanners husband before tanners husband
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=214338.0