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Drake - Thank Me Later
ARTIST.......: Drake
TITLE........: Thank Me Later
GENRE........: Hip-Hop
RELEASE DATE.: Jun-02-2010
LABEL........: Cash Money, Young Money, Universal Motown
QUALITY......: 320 / 44.1Hz / Full Stereo
SIZE.........: 139,10 MB
Tracks:
01 Fireworks (Feat. Alicia Keys) 05:13
02 Karaoke 03:48
03 The Resistance 03:45
04 Over 03:53
05 Show Me A Good Time 03:30
06 Up All Night (Feat. Nicki Minaj) 03:54
07 Fancy (Feat. T.I. & Swizz Beatz) 05:19
08 Shut it Down (Feat. the-Dream) 06:59
09 Unforgettable (Feat. Young Jeezy) 03:33
10 Light Up (Feat. Jay-Z) 04:34
11 Miss Me (Feat. Lil Wayne) 05:05
12 Cece's Interlude 02:34
13 Find Your Love 03:29
14 Thank Me Now 05:28
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61:04 min
Release Notes:
its out, no need for grouprip with a 320
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you beat me to it im bout to check it out tho 8)
after listenin to it it aint even worth downloadin again for the grouprip that Thank Me Later track is dope tho but thats bout it its pretty hot garbage i guess my expectations were too high for this kinda disappointin actually
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production is on point. allows album to have a nice atmosphere.
i still think kid doesn't have the content or the lifestory to continue past this album or at least past another album. seriously, kid's rich already and was before he got into the game. i guess if he pulled off being in degrassi he could do it again.
his singing is dope. nice he cut most the auto-tune.
he seems honest which is always a huge plus.
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Well,just like so far gone Ive reserved judgement and given this a fair shake
I couldnt disagree more about the production,its very sterile and boring.if the atmosphere its painting is shitty beats,then yes it sure is atmospheric.I dont know it cant be just me that thinks his production is very bland and boring.I dont like this 40 guy or bo1da at all it just feels like the same beats from so far gone.
Thiers a couple decent songs and drake isnt doing that annoying punchline rap every song So I can commend him for that.I think the one thing I was looking forward to on this albums was the hook,Ive always thought this was drakes strong point but he fell flat on this album.They were very bland and forgettable.
the album just feels like a remake of so far gone in almost every way.I probably wont ever listen to this album again.
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how come Common isnt credited on "Show Me A Good Time" ??? :-X
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listening to Drakes voice for more than 10min is just too much for me :puke:
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This sounds like an album, not a collection of tracks similar to a best of o hits collection that hip-hop is often plagued with.
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how come Common isnt credited on "Show Me A Good Time" ??? :-X
I'm gonna download this because Common is on one song. Good shit :)
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from what i heard off the songs that leaked a few weeks ago, "Fireworks" was his best song & that was average.
anything better than that?
EDIT: i can bump "Shut It Down".
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there are like 4 good songs on it and only one of them doesnt contain a feature. it was really boring. its a shame when an artist creates a great mixtape, rides their buzz so long until everyone who originally like them is sick of them and then makes a mediocre album.
wale anyone? lol
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i understand that it's different content, different style, different sound, but Tha Carter III is seventeen times better than this album.
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i dont understand why you are comparing them, maybe by realsing a mixtape and creating buzz? still dont get it cause wayne had a TON of mixtapes, drake just had one and it was like 2 years ago
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Content of this album is for the chicks... but it does flow nicely from song to song!
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I like the record and even tho I expected a lotta more I was aware that Drake planed to deliver this type of material
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listening to Drakes voice for more than 10min is just too much for me :puke:
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Downloadin' now. Gonna' listen now.
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i dont understand why you are comparing them, maybe by realsing a mixtape and creating buzz? still dont get it cause wayne had a TON of mixtapes, drake just had one and it was like 2 years ago
really? are there any two rappers in Hip Hop more comparable & similar than Drake & Lil' Wayne?
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Went trough the album real quick, damn I expected way more, imma give it a few more spins but damn donno if im gonna Thank Him Later or ever for this album.
Up All Night bangs hard but imma gonna remove Nicki Minaj from this song, shes a disgrace to the beat.
PS.Why the fuck he didnt use King Leon beat/song, that shit was huge....
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1. Fireworks - Beat is pretty decent. Very intro appropriate and Drake is being honest. Alicia Keys should be doing all of this hook. Alicia does sound good on this though. - 3.5/5
2. Karaoke - Never heard of "Francis & The Lights" but I'm kind of feeling this beat. The singing goes well with it but I'm not sure I'd listen to this again. - 2.5/5
3. The Resistance - This sounds too much like a lot of Drake tracks. - 3/5
4. Over - 3.75/5 - Everyone and they mama heard this by now. Always liked it.
5. Show Me a Good Time - Beat is ok, Kanye could do better. Song isn't bad. Someone said something about Common on here but I don't hear him at all :-\ - 3.25/5
6. Up All Night - Beat is decent. The beat switch up suits Nicki Minaj's verse. - 3/5
7. Fancy - Beat is alright but hook is annoying. Not sure who told Swizz Beats he could do hooks. T.I. flow worked well on here, he's the best part of this song but that's not saying much. Lol at the B.o.B. line, hopefully he sneakin' in how much better B.o.B. is than Drake. - 2.75.5
8. Shut It Down - Not bad. If your gonna' collab with Dream, you should let Dream produce it though. - 3.25/5
9. Unforgettable - Jeezy's hook is the bright spot. The beat is eyy/ and none of the verses are mind blowing. U makin' a track with Jeezy, make it a fast beat. Lol at the fuck Chilli line though. - 3/5
10. Light Up - Lol at the prom night line. Beat is ok but Drake flow fit it. I'm disappointed with Jay-Z verse. He gave Drake a throwaway. All verses on BP3 are better. - 3/5
11. Miss Me - This sounds like a Drake/Wayne joint from a mixtape. Not album appropriate. Even when the beat switches for Wayne verse, sounds like such a mixtape. - 3/5
12. Cece's Interlude - Sounds like every other Drake singing song. - 2/5
13. Find Your Love - Not gonna lie, this shit has grown on me since it first came out. - 3.5/5
14. Thank Me Now - Love the title. Not the best Timbaland beat, but still good. Probably the best beat on the album. - 3.5/5
This album sucks, wtf. I may have even been generous with some of the ratings. And I'm a Drake fan/defender of most of his music, albeit not a huge fan, I thought he would do way better than this. Too bad this will still sell like hot cakes. Maybe it's first listen syndrome and will grow on me with more listens? I doubt it, but I'll keep SOME [aka little] hope open.
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Bout to give this a listen....its dumb to compare this to the carter w.e cuz its 2 different sounds.
Now lets be for real drake is nothing special, dude can sing but cannot rap nor does he have an above average flow...and hes heavily carried by beats.
That said Hopfully I can enjoy this album somewhat cuz i like him on hooks...and yea that shut it down track is really good cham
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1. Fireworks - Beat is pretty decent. Very intro appropriate and Drake is being honest. Alicia Keys should be doing all of this hook. Alicia does sound good on this though. - 3.5/5
2. Karaoke - Never heard of "Francis & The Lights" but I'm kind of feeling this beat. The singing goes well with it but I'm not sure I'd listen to this again. - 2.5/5
3. The Resistance - This sounds too much like a lot of Drake tracks. - 3/5
4. Over - 3.75/5 - Everyone and they mama heard this by now. Always liked it.
5. Show Me a Good Time - Beat is ok, Kanye could do better. Song isn't bad. Someone said something about Common on here but I don't hear him at all :-\ - 3.25/5
6. Up All Night - Beat is decent. The beat switch up suits Nicki Minaj's verse. - 3/5
7. Fancy - Beat is alright but hook is annoying. Not sure who told Swizz Beats he could do hooks. T.I. flow worked well on here, he's the best part of this song but that's not saying much. Lol at the B.o.B. line, hopefully he sneakin' in how much better B.o.B. is than Drake. - 2.75.5
8. Shut It Down - Not bad. If your gonna' collab with Dream, you should let Dream produce it though. - 3.25/5
9. Unforgettable - Jeezy's hook is the bright spot. The beat is eyy/ and none of the verses are mind blowing. U makin' a track with Jeezy, make it a fast beat. Lol at the fuck Chilli line though. - 3/5
10. Light Up - Lol at the prom night line. Beat is ok but Drake flow fit it. I'm disappointed with Jay-Z verse. He gave Drake a throwaway. All verses on BP3 are better. - 3/5
11. Miss Me - This sounds like a Drake/Wayne joint from a mixtape. Not album appropriate. Even when the beat switches for Wayne verse, sounds like such a mixtape. - 3/5
12. Cece's Interlude - Sounds like every other Drake singing song. - 2/5
13. Find Your Love - Not gonna lie, this shit has grown on me since it first came out. - 3.5/5
14. Thank Me Now - Love the title. Not the best Timbaland beat, but still good. Probably the best beat on the album. - 3.5/5
This album sucks, wtf. I may have even been generous with some of the ratings. And I'm a Drake fan/defender of most of his music, albeit not a huge fan, I thought he would do way better than this. Too bad this will still sell like hot cakes. Maybe it's first listen syndrome and will grow on me with more listens? I doubt it, but I'll keep SOME [aka little] hope open.
Pretty decent review, album really has potential to be one of the biggest disappointments this year.
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After one listen, this album is exactly what i wanted and expected. It's feel good music, a mix of r&b and rap, mood music. I'm real glad he didn't switch it up too much from So Far Gone to his album, it's basically like a polished version of So Far Gone, which is very good.
Btw whoever didn't like Jay Z's verse on "Lights Up" only skimmed through it... That verse is full of gems.
Anyway, hard to judge after a quick listen but from the atmosphere it's exactly what I wanted it to be.
Don't listen to Drake looking for complex lyrics and indredible delivery or amazing singing abilities. Drake makes feel good urban pop music.
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After one listen, this album is exactly what i wanted and expected. It's feel good music, a mix of r&b and rap, mood music. I'm real glad he didn't switch it up too much from So Far Gone to his album, it's basically like a polished version of So Far Gone, which is very good.
Btw whoever didn't like Jay Z's verse on "Lights Up" only skimmed through it... That verse is full of gems.
Anyway, hard to judge after a quick listen but from the atmosphere it's exactly what I wanted it to be.
Don't listen to Drake looking for complex lyrics and indredible delivery or amazing singing abilities. Drake makes feel good urban pop music.
Man, really? This is what you wanted :-\ I completely disagree and it's just opinions I know. I don't think this sounds polished at all. Half the tracks sound like mixtape throwaways. Matter of fact, I'd say some of his mixtapes are definitely better than this. I'd say it takes a giant step back from "So Far Gone" but that's my opinion. Or maybe I'm just tired of hearing the same ol' Drake music? I dunno, but either way, this doesn't sound good.
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After one listen, this album is exactly what i wanted and expected. It's feel good music, a mix of r&b and rap, mood music. I'm real glad he didn't switch it up too much from So Far Gone to his album, it's basically like a polished version of So Far Gone, which is very good.
Btw whoever didn't like Jay Z's verse on "Lights Up" only skimmed through it... That verse is full of gems.
Anyway, hard to judge after a quick listen but from the atmosphere it's exactly what I wanted it to be.
Don't listen to Drake looking for complex lyrics and indredible delivery or amazing singing abilities. Drake makes feel good urban pop music.
yeah, i agree with every point. i like the overall vibe of the album. this is what i expected so i'm happy with it, reminds me a lot of So Far Gone which was probably my most played mixtape last year.
whoever expected a pure rap album is an idiot and needs to pick up a black milk or planet asia album. of course he's gonna do at least 50% r&b alone for the facts that he can sing and its gonna sell better than the rap part.
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I had no expectations on this album because I already knew what kinda stuff Drake wanted to put out on this album just by judging all of his pre stuff.
Album is nice imo. The fact that the majoriity of it is foreign/new producers is gutsy and original.
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Some of the best tracks on here already leaked days ago, so that takes away a lot from the first listening experience. But thats nothing new.
"The Resistance" is dope though.
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this album is kinda slow. More rnb less club bangers.
I totally agree with luna. Most of the songs i liked i already heard but Up All Night def got my head banging, that beat is nice!
This is better than so far gone tho and im expecting it to be a grower, so far gone had weaker beats.
I dunno, lets hope this grows. I was just hoping boi1da would give drizzy more heat rocks of beats then these slow rnb type beats
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If we can compare some of these new generation hip hop rnb wonders albums it would go like this:
Kid Cudi>>>>>Wale===BoB>>>>>Drake
I expected better album, better then his EP on all levels, thats all, and I was disappointed. Tho Im still gonna give few spins to songs like Up All Night,Fireworks,Thank Me Later,Shut It Down, Over, Light Up...
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there are like 4 good songs on it and only one of them doesnt contain a feature. it was really boring. its a shame when an artist creates a great mixtape, rides their buzz so long until everyone who originally like them is sick of them and then makes a mediocre album.
wale anyone? lol
you right about that wale guy, everyone was telling me that equal was knot,i heard em and thought nothing of em,then heard his album thought it was shit,and everyone who liked him for his mixtapes started telling me they ain't braille the album haha yell
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Up All Night def got my head banging, that beat is nice!
Good ear +1 ;D
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After one listen, this album is exactly what i wanted and expected. It's feel good music, a mix of r&b and rap, mood music. I'm real glad he didn't switch it up too much from So Far Gone to his album, it's basically like a polished version of So Far Gone, which is very good.
Btw whoever didn't like Jay Z's verse on "Lights Up" only skimmed through it... That verse is full of gems.
Anyway, hard to judge after a quick listen but from the atmosphere it's exactly what I wanted it to be.
Don't listen to Drake looking for complex lyrics and indredible delivery or amazing singing abilities. Drake makes feel good urban pop music.
i'm glad somebody knows this guy ain't no hell of a singer,cause i swear some people think this guy is like marvin gaye or something,and i'm like wait to you hear this muthafucca sing live then you will checc yo fucc'n self haha yell
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If we can compare some of these new generation hip hop rnb wonders albums it would go like this:
Kid Cudi>>>>>Wale>>BoB>>>>>Drake
i'd say Wale is better than B.o.B.; his singles were ill, but overall his album wasn't as good as Wale.
i plan to put J. Cole at the top of this list, but i can only hope.
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Just had one quick listen. Average. Tracks with Jeezy, T.I., Jay and Wayne stood out. The album has a real cohesive vibe though and production is very nice and unique, mood musik. But his flow is terrible, he has one voice tone through out the whole cd, matter fact since his career started. Now it's time to see what's up with the replay value.
Speaking of new dudes: Cudi>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wale>>> Drake>>>>>>>>>>>>B.O.B.. Bob's album was terrible.
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Shit sounds like the soundtrack to a 14 year old jerking off with glade candles lit
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what's up with all the "production" compliments?
some average ass beats on this; the only ones i liked was Light Up, Over & Unforgettable; none of which sounded unique lol.
what did Drake pay to get a pass on this? :laugh:
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what's up with all the "production" compliments?
some average ass beats on this
for real, none of the beats stand out as dope to me ??? Even Timbo's beat which is good sounds like a throwaway Timbo beat compared to what he's given to Jeezy and other rap artists. Kanye has done WAY better with beats as well. Swizz has had worse than "Fancy" (at least its not all over the place like a lot of his beats) but too has had a lot better..
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Drake - You Know, You Know
http://www.mediafire.com/?cxnyuhyzmzm
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actuallly gave this a quick spin and predictably it's terrible :loopaper:
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How's the sound quality of the rip?
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he has one voice tone through out the whole cd, matter fact since his career started.
yes, that is true.
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Drake - You Know, You Know
http://www.mediafire.com/?cxnyuhyzmzm
they should have put this one on the album. better than the other 2 kanye tracks that made it for sure.
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damn this ti verse is terrible yell
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His & Cudi's album are on par.
BoB has the most disappointing release from the freshman.
Wale's album isn't re-memorable.
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an instrumental of the timbaland track would be cool.
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will wait to buy it ...
y are ppl complaining that its feel good r & b music? were u honestly expecting a gangsta album from Drake?? come on now, dude never faked the funk
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Nice to see majority of dudes in this thread being objective +1 to yall.
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His & Cudi's album are on par.
BoB has the most disappointing release from the freshman.
Wale's album isn't re-memorable.
Is it just me who liked BOB's album and didnt like Cudi's album??
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i gave it a quick listen and its way better than i expected....im not a fan of dudes music at all and really just downloaded it outta curiosity...i give dude credit for being introspective alot of the time
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so should i bother checking?
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I gave this a spin last night, here's my thoughts
the ok:
Fireworks (Feat. Alicia Keys)
Over
Show Me A Good Time
Up All Night (Feat. Nicki Minaj)
Unforgettable (Feat. Young Jeezy)
Light Up (Feat. Jay-Z)
Miss Me (Feat. Lil Wayne)
Find Your Love - can't front, this one kinda grew on me for what type of track it is, I HATED it at first
Thank Me Now
the bad:
Karaoke
The Resistance
Fancy (Feat. T.I. & Swizz Beatz)
the ugly:
Shut It Down (Feat. Dream)
I had no expectations for this album so I wasn't disappointed or surprised, but it isn't complete garbage so I'll give it a fair 3/5... my only complaint is Drake's monotone flow and voice and I also don't get the hype with Boi-1da and 40, even Kanye's beats were mediocre
you already know this will sell and go on to be one of the most over-rated albums this year and groupies/dumbasses everywhere will soon be calling this a classic
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I thought the album was good. Not terrible.
And I liked Wale's album, one of my favorites from last year. I guess I got bad taste :'(
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Ya. what the hell wrong with Wale? his album was dope as fuck
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karaoke and show me a good time have grown on me and they sound dope as fucc now!
whats up with Shut It Down? Dream thought he would tone down the cursing for the final version?
I def think the leaked version was better, Dream was hitting better notes.
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Okay now my feedback. I have supported drakes music ever since I heard him on a weezy mixtape, dedication 3 with the track stuntin. Good track btw. Three tracks I only like..
Light It Up; The production grows on you, also jay's verse does too. Pretty nice track, favourite on the album.
Miss Me; Drakes flow is undeniably sweet in this, some great punchlines. Weezy, meh.
Fireworks; Dont like this finished version where Drake sings the first part of the hook, I prefer the unfinished version where its just Alicia.
Dissapointed with it over all. I bought So Far Gone and that had around what, 6-7 tracks? And that is still better than this. Its more of a summer album, especially for the ladies. Not a fan of that singing shit, but you know, life goes on.
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Okay now my feedback. I have supported drakes music ever since I heard him on a weezy mixtape, dedication 3 with the track stuntin. Good track btw. Three tracks I only like..
Light It Up; The production grows on you, also jay's verse does too. Pretty nice track, favourite on the album.
Miss Me; Drakes flow is undeniably sweet in this, some great punchlines. Weezy, meh.
Fireworks; Dont like this finished version where Drake sings the first part of the hook, I prefer the unfinished version where its just Alicia.
Dissapointed with it over all. I bought So Far Gone and that had around what, 6-7 tracks? And that is still better than this. Its more of a summer album, especially for the ladies. Not a fan of that singing shit, but you know, life goes on.
so far gone had 17 tracks, you are talking about the ep
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pretty good album, but far from perfect. Sounds like Kanye produced the whole album, it has that 808 and Heartbreak vibe to it. I think the biggest problem with the album is that it doesn't have any real stand out tracks. All of the songs are very similar, so I am afraid the album might get repetitive fast.
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Ya. what the hell wrong with Wale? his album was dope as fuck
i also liked wales album.It wasnt amazing but it was solid and showed real promised.And probably my favourite track with pharrell in a long time as well as songs like 90210.I also enjoyed bobs album and thought cudis was vastly over rated.
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Ya. what the hell wrong with Wale? his album was dope as fuck
i also liked wales album.It wasnt amazing but it was solid and showed real promised.And probably my favourite track with pharrell in a long time as well as songs like 90210.I also enjoyed bobs album and thought cudis was vastly over rated.
90210 was dope as shit. The joint with Gucci, J Cole, Bun B, etc. Mirrors, Mama Told Me, etc. So many dope tracks.
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this might be the softest "hip-hop" album I've ever heard. It makes Jodeci's "Show, Hotel, Afterparty" album look like "Straight outta Compton".
SMH at hip-hop cosigning this.
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Wale's album was weak....I think he can spit, but he needed to switch his flow up on that album...sounded the same on every track
As for THIS album, I don't give a fuck what a nigga says, this shit is actually enjoyable....It's not on that Food & Liquor exitement tip like I was hoping for, but the album is in a lane of its own, and it works IMO
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Wale's album was weak....I think he can spit, but he needed to switch his flow up on that album...sounded the same on every track
As for THIS album, I don't give a fuck what a nigga says, this shit is actually enjoyable....It's not on that Food & Liquor exitement tip like I was hoping for, but the album is in a lane of its own, and it works IMO
it's in the same lane as a 15 year old girl who just got her learner's permit
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lol Common isnt on "Show Me A Good Time". but Drake sounds just like him in certain spots.
guess my joke failed.
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too many female oriented songs. production was decent but the subject matter just ruined it.
shame. could have been a dope record.
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i see alot of y'all like rappers albums who would sell they mamas just so white folks can like them, i hope you equals like p.m dawn, urban dance squad and groups like that if not yall some hypocrites, a couple of songs are cool but overall with the hype this equal had yall cannot say he matched it even with his own style,stop grade'n on a fucc'n remedial scale with these new equals yell
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How did Drake sell out? How did he go "R&B" on this album?
This is exactly the tip he's been on from the jump! How can anyone who liked So Far Gone hate on Thank Me Later? Similar concepts all the way through, rapped verses with a soft r&b breakdown/bridge.
3 days into listening to this, it's exactly what I wanted it to be. He stayed in his zone, didn't experiment, didn"t attempt to force a club banger in there... He did him. I respect that.
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After a couple of spins solid album. Wouldn't call it SFG on steroids because it sounds like SFG leftovers. But it's got really nice cohesive vibe, the album flows, it's not just 15 random tracks thrown together. And it's cool to see so many introspective tracks even though he sometimes sounds corny. Too much tracks about chicks too and he really needs to switch up his flow. But he definitely knows how to make an album.
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How can anyone who liked So Far Gone hate on Thank Me Later?
because it sounds like SFG leftovers.
& basically like Luna's review on this, a bunch of 3/5 songs, just average ass music; maybe a few songs (2-3) to spin here & there when i'm in the mood to, but other than that, it's just "blah".
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Wouldn't call it SFG on steroids because it sounds like SFG leftovers.
That's the problem man ???
This dude has a serious hype, u 'pose to keep the best shit for your album when your buzz that big. He didn't deliver. This sounds like mixtape throwaways u just said, how could that be a good thing ???
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At the very least, the production is as good as So Far Gone. I don't agree that it's So Far Gone on steroids but it would be appropriate to call it a continuation of the style in So Far Gone. It's subtler, quiter and more reflective where as So Far Gone was bouncier and more excited. The tracks almost transition perfectly like an ALBUM SHOULD. They also all have a similar atmosphere like an ALBUM SHOULD. That Swizz Beats track really hinders the flow of the album.
Karoke is my personal favorite track on the album.
I hope he takes a couple years before he releases a follow up.
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How can anyone who liked So Far Gone hate on Thank Me Later?
because it sounds like SFG leftovers.
& basically like Luna's review on this, a bunch of 3/5 songs, just average ass music; maybe a few songs (2-3) to spin here & there when i'm in the mood to, but other than that, it's just "blah".
exactly, a bunch of 3/5, average ass music. I haven't heard anything yet that I loved.
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I haven't heard anything yet that I loved.
yeah, that's the perfect thing to say.
every album usually has a few songs, might even just be one or two, that you can bump for a while; "oh, that's my shit".
but this album has none of that; most of it is a RnB album & he's not all that great of a singer, so i fail to see where some of this love is coming from.
go listen to a Ne-Yo album is you want some good RnB lol.
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lol thats what i dont get about these negative reactions... TML is just a thicker SFG, yet everyone seems to think it has nothing on SFG.
The problem is the hype. People bought into it too easiily with the media calling him hip hop's savior.
I still dont think this album is radio friendly, the content is pretty raw and simple.
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I'm amazingly confused how the people who are giving this shit a pass are the same ones saying "its not SFG on steroids", "the production is as good as SFG" (so not better), "it sounds like SFG leftovers" ??? How does that please you? Have hip hop fans lowered there standards THAT much? (And remember, this all comes from me, who LIKES Drake) When your an artist with that much of a buzz, your DEBUT album should not sound like mixtape leftovers.
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lol thats what i dont get about these negative reactions... TML is just a thicker SFG, yet everyone seems to think it has nothing on SFG.
The problem is the hype. People bought into it too easiily with the media calling him hip hop's savior.
I still dont think this album is radio friendly, the content is pretty raw and simple.
but So Far Gone had, "Best I Ever Had", "Successful", "Uptown", "Fear"; those are jams that you can listen to time & time again; shit on this album is just like a half assed version of all of those songs.
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but So Far Gone had, "Best I Ever Had", "Successful", "Uptown", "Fear"; those are jams that you can listen to time & time again; shit on this album is just like a half assed version of all of those songs.
For real! I'll admit some of the songs have grown on me with more listens, but this is still disappointing, and these songs got nothin' on "Uptown", "Fear" or "Successful."
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At the very least, the production is as good as So Far Gone. I don't agree that it's So Far Gone on steroids but it would be appropriate to call it a continuation of the style in So Far Gone. It's subtler, quiter and more reflective where as So Far Gone was bouncier and more excited. The tracks almost transition perfectly like an ALBUM SHOULD. They also all have a similar atmosphere like an ALBUM SHOULD. That Swizz Beats track really hinders the flow of the album.
Karoke is my personal favorite track on the album.
I hope he takes a couple years before he releases a follow up.
I totally agree. This album is fine with me, everything flows well. Couple tracks are weak for me like Fireworks, Resistance but Karaoke is that jam man. And i think Swizz Beatz won worst hook of the year for his input on this album.
"oh you fancy huh? nail done hair done everything done"
god damn this nigga has lost his mind
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Guess we're gonna have to agree to disagree, Luna. I really enjoy the album, as I said, it's exactly what I wanted it to be. Not because I have low standards, but because a lot of artists have failed to transition from great mixtape to great album, because they forced themselves to switch it up, make a club banger etc etc, but Drake stayed in his line and did what he does best, enjoyable, light hearted yet introspective mood music that you can both put on as background music but also turn up in the headphones and enjoy.
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Drake stayed in his line and did what he does best
you mean an average version of what he does best?
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Drake stayed in his line and did what he does best
you mean an average version of what he does best?
wrong...please tell me the difference
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So this is basically elevator music where you're glad to get off at your floor.
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Drake stayed in his line and did what he does best
you mean an average version of what he does best?
wrong...please tell me the difference
all the songs me & Luna wrote about before are easily his best songs & he doesn't have anything on his debut album close to them.
go through all the other album discussion threads on this forum & check through the pages, you'll see tons of comments like "oh man, 'Track 5' is my fucking song man!"; you don't have that with this album because nothing stands out.
just think if he would have saved "Successful" for the album or "Fear", either of those songs would of stood out among all of these as a great song.
so basically, everybody saying "this is the same as 'So Far Gone', if you liked that, you gotta like this" isn't making sense to me because the songs on SFG are much better than almost all the songs on here.
Fireworks might be the best song & be real, that song isn't so great.
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When I said SFG leftovers I didn't mean it in such a negative way. On the one hand it's good that he kept it the same, didn't go too left field (he could have a whole album of that ignorant Young Money shit) but at the same time it's not as good as the mixtape, none of the tracks really stand out (well, maybe the tracks with Alicia, Dream, Jeezy and Jay). BUT even with that he showed a lot of the so called real MC's how to create an album that flows from top to bottom and is cohesive.
And Lunatic are you sure you're not being so judgmental just because of the natural comparison of Drake and B.O.B. and with general reception for B.O.B.'s debut being very unfavorable. Because I know your taste and all of a sudden some things bother you with Drake that don't bother you with other artists you're so fond of.
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Guess we're gonna have to agree to disagree, Luna. I really enjoy the album, as I said, it's exactly what I wanted it to be. Not because I have low standards, but because a lot of artists have failed to transition from great mixtape to great album, because they forced themselves to switch it up, make a club banger etc etc, but Drake stayed in his line and did what he does best, enjoyable, light hearted yet introspective mood music that you can both put on as background music but also turn up in the headphones and enjoy.
Yes sir, we can definitely agree to disagree. I will say I see your point of him not "forcing" a switch up on here. That's a good thing.
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When I said SFG leftovers I didn't mean it in such a negative way. On the one hand it's good that he kept it the same, didn't go too left field (he could have a whole album of that ignorant Young Money shit) but at the same time it's not as good as the mixtape, none of the tracks really stand out (well, maybe the tracks with Alicia, Dream, Jeezy and Jay). BUT even with that he showed a lot of the so called real MC's how to create an album that flows from top to bottom and is cohesive.
And Lunatic are you sure you're not being so judgmental just because of the natural comparison of Drake and B.O.B. and with general reception for B.O.B.'s debut being very unfavorable. Because I know your taste and all of a sudden some things bother you with Drake that don't bother you with other artists you're so fond of.
I see your point of keeping it the same and not going left field and that is indeed a good thing. He made "Drake" music instead of trying to force something. But at the same time, like Chamill said, I have a problem that other "Drake style" music released in the past such as "Successful" and "Fear" would be the two best songs on this album.
Not sure why your bringing up B.o.B., your making this too complex with the B.o.B thing while I'm keeping it simple. This is a lot of 3/5 music imo. Whether it's typical Drake or left field, it's too much 3/5 where-as there are some "Drake style" songs that he's released on mixtapes that are 5/5.
I could care less what people think about B.o.B.'s album and it doesn't cause me to judge music any differently than I ever have. At least B.o.B. had some stand out songs (Airplanes, The Kids, etc.)
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Over is the best song..
I think you guys expected a more uptempo production choice. If you put some of these lyrics on some more bouncier or COMPLETE beats, the Hip-Hop heads would eat it more.
I knew the limits of Drake's lyrical ability, and I knew it would make this album subpar for the hype he got.. Dunno if anyone picked up on that, but when you get a full album of it, it is quite clear.. His style really does sound like an offspring of today's Lil Wayne...
I don't see a difference in the subject content or delivery of these songs compared to the other "good" songs you guys are mentioning from So Far Gone, etc. There is just no production that is "making" the songs on this CD. With the exception of Fear, where he made the song, his production has masked him a fair bit, like it or not...
3.5/5 - Whether you're a casual listener, or you have a niche for him. Not a solid effort, but one you would expect from a young debut artist that came up more from connects than skill.
I will still look forward to a sophomore effort, I expect either a more Hip-Hop sounding album, or a more polished sound of that what appeared on Thank Me Later. Drake has alot of evolving and learning to do, I can already read the interviews a year from now where he talks about what was missing on this album.
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so just making music to say oh i stayed in my known lane ='s good to people now? come on now,i think this guy got some talent but all i heard was a safe album,when this album has it's run it's over (no pun),and i think this equal could do way better, but i guess that's what the game is now, em just came out with two safe songs,guess i got to put faith in kanye as a rapper that sells in the mainstream now yell
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so just making music to say oh i stayed in my known lane ='s good to people now? come on now,i think this guy got some talent but all i heard was a safe album,when this album has it's run it's over (no pun),and i think this equal could do way better, but i guess that's what the game is now, em just came out with two safe songs,guess i got to put faith in kanye as a rapper that sells in the mainstream now yell
Well, it works two ways. Either you try to create something that isn't you, and end up with some awkward "forced' music, that doesn't work for you... Or you make the music you feel like, the music you want to make, and people who fit your niche will know what you're talking about.
I honestly think this is the limits of Drake's ability, I don't think he was "playing it safe", just that this is all he's capable of at this point. I am betting his second CD will dwarf this effort though. He needs growth, that's all.
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@Luna. Ok then. I just got the feeling you were being extra critical in some aspects that is in contrast with your usual taste/ posting history.
Speaking of sophomore albums and longevity, I don't think that Drake has it in him. The hype will die down in a year or two and he doesn't seem to have anything else to rap about that money, bitches and fame and that will get old quick especially with such one dimensional rap flow.
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@Luna. Ok then. I just got the feeling you were being extra critical in some aspects that is in contrast with your usual taste/ posting history.
Speaking of sophomore albums and longevity, I don't think that Drake has it in him. The hype will die down in a year or two and he doesn't seem to have anything else to rap about that money, bitches and fame and that will get old quick especially with such one dimensional rap flow.
Yes sir.
80% of it is marketing. Drake has DOPE marketing. I think he'll be alright.
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@Luna. Ok then. I just got the feeling you were being extra critical in some aspects that is in contrast with your usual taste/ posting history.
Speaking of sophomore albums and longevity, I don't think that Drake has it in him. The hype will die down in a year or two and he doesn't seem to have anything else to rap about that money, bitches and fame and that will get old quick especially with such one dimensional rap flow.
That's all 50 rapped about.. Again, it will come down to him evolving his penmanship, so that he can "make" a song with his lyrics, something he did not do here; and the production of the beats themselves. I have no problem with the choice of producers, but the beats need to be more polished for him to succeed.
And obviously as he gets older he is gonna experience more shit and have new views. Whoever said he should wait longer than usual to release his next effort is right. Alot of growth as a person and as an artist should happen before he puts something out.
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How did Drake sell out? How did he go "R&B" on this album?
This is exactly the tip he's been on from the jump! How can anyone who liked So Far Gone hate on Thank Me Later? Similar concepts all the way through, rapped verses with a soft r&b breakdown/bridge.
3 days into listening to this, it's exactly what I wanted it to be. He stayed in his zone, didn't experiment, didn"t attempt to force a club banger in there... He did him. I respect that.
Doesn't matter if he sold out or kept it real, the music industry co-signed this guy to be the biggest thing to happen to hip-hop since the microphone was invented. The music industry conspired to build this hype around a Canadian Nickelodeon actor who couldn't decide whether to be an R&B singer or rapper.
Point blank, the guy is the blandest artist out there now.
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Man, fear was such a great track. Everything about it was on point. But meh, what can you do? Light Up was by far the best track for me
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so just making music to say oh i stayed in my known lane ='s good to people now? come on now,i think this guy got some talent but all i heard was a safe album,when this album has it's run it's over (no pun),and i think this equal could do way better, but i guess that's what the game is now, em just came out with two safe songs,guess i got to put faith in kanye as a rapper that sells in the mainstream now yell
Well, it works two ways. Either you try to create something that isn't you, and end up with some awkward "forced' music, that doesn't work for you... Or you make the music you feel like, the music you want to make, and people who fit your niche will know what you're talking about.
I honestly think this is the limits of Drake's ability, I don't think he was "playing it safe", just that this is all he's capable of at this point. I am betting his second CD will dwarf this effort though. He needs growth, that's all.
i think it deals with who he works with as the executive producer, i mean if he had one to push him to make better material he could,instead of the kiss asses who say oh this worked for you and it's working for bob so lets do the singing thing more, and with artist in hip hop i always go bacc to two artist b.i.g. and group home, big wasn't really trying to do that gloss rap but what he did with it was still sound ill and make the best pop record possible when he did those joints, and also the group home album, them equals wasn't no great rappers or good rappers but premo and guru production and executive producing that shit made they average rhymes sound better, hell it's even that way with william roberts if the album is put together right even if equals ain't braille'n you as a person or your image or what not they will fucc with your project yell
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I'm amazingly confused how the people who are giving this shit a pass are the same ones saying "its not SFG on steroids", "the production is as good as SFG" (so not better), "it sounds like SFG leftovers" ??? How does that please you? Have hip hop fans lowered there standards THAT much? (And remember, this all comes from me, who LIKES Drake) When your an artist with that much of a buzz, your DEBUT album should not sound like mixtape leftovers.
Why does it have to be So Far Gone on steroids? Just because Drake described it as that? So, okay, he failed to reach that accomplishment but it's still dope. It's not any worse than So Far Gone. It's on par and in ways it's better. When you say it's "as good as" it means that it's not any worst than it but it could be better which I happen to think it is. I don't think it's So Far Gone production on steroids but I think it's more effective.
So Far Gone was never really a mixtape. It was given away for free because nobody knew who he was.
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Why is it so hard to accept that to some people the album is really good and to some it's average?
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I'm enjoying the album for what it is.
Chilling with a beer listenng to it now.
Kareoke is the best track IMO. The album flows well untill the Swizz track ( which I like ) :-X
I hate nicki minaj.
The Timbaland production was weak.
No need for Alicia Keys.
Just a few thoughts.
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I'm very satisfied with the album, I expected this type of music from him and it came out nice IMO. A few of the tracks could've been better, Dream coulda produced the track he was on, Cece's Inter coulda been taken off the album, Nicki Minaj coulda been removed from Up All Night. Those changes would've helped. Aside from the interlude I liked those tracks anyways.
[3.25-4/5] Tracks I really liked: Karaoke, The Resistance, Over, Show Me A Good Time, Fancy, Unforgettable, Light Up, Miss Me, Find Your Love, Thank Me Now
[3/5] Tracks I liked: Fireworks, Up All Night(woulda been ^ there if not for Nicki), Shut It Down
[2.5 & Below] Meh: Cece's Interlude
I'd give it about 3.75/5 close to a 4 cuz I enjoyed a large majority of the album. Before the leak the only tracks I heard was Miss Me & Over. I resisted listening to Light Up, Unforgettable, and Find Your Love, which i'm glad I did, gave the album a better listening experience. I'll be picking this up on the 15th, 2nd buy of the year :laugh:
In terms of debut albums because the comparisons are inevitable
Drake > Fash > Asher Roth >>> KiD CuDi(grown on me, the shit hes been releasing post debut has been fire tho) >>>> B.O.B
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Why is it so hard to accept that to some people the album is really good and to some it's average?
Because people can't agree to disagree lol. Nah Nima but I feel pretty much the same way you do about the album and this is coming from someone that honestly before the leak only listened to 1, maybe 2 of his songs.
That is the one thing I can say for me I dig about early leaks. If I am not sure about a artist, I will burn it first to check it out.
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And oh btw, If some of you didnt know, the track 9am in Dallas will be a bonus track
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And oh btw, If some of you didnt know, the track 9am in Dallas will be a bonus track
could be the best song on the album. ;D
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so just making music to say oh i stayed in my known lane ='s good to people now? come on now,i think this guy got some talent but all i heard was a safe album,when this album has it's run it's over (no pun),and i think this equal could do way better, but i guess that's what the game is now, em just came out with two safe songs,guess i got to put faith in kanye as a rapper that sells in the mainstream now yell
Well, it works two ways. Either you try to create something that isn't you, and end up with some awkward "forced' music, that doesn't work for you... Or you make the music you feel like, the music you want to make, and people who fit your niche will know what you're talking about.
I honestly think this is the limits of Drake's ability, I don't think he was "playing it safe", just that this is all he's capable of at this point. I am betting his second CD will dwarf this effort though. He needs growth, that's all.
i think it deals with who he works with as the executive producer, i mean if he had one to push him to make better material he could,instead of the kiss asses who say oh this worked for you and it's working for bob so lets do the singing thing more, and with artist in hip hop i always go bacc to two artist b.i.g. and group home, big wasn't really trying to do that gloss rap but what he did with it was still sound ill and make the best pop record possible when he did those joints, and also the group home album, them equals wasn't no great rappers or good rappers but premo and guru production and executive producing that shit made they average rhymes sound better, hell it's even that way with william roberts if the album is put together right even if equals ain't braille'n you as a person or your image or what not they will fucc with your project yell
Well Wiki says he exec prod. his own album, so there is the smoking gun right there. Also, Wayne and Birdman obviously oversaw alot of the project, which also doesn't help you.
The talent and potential is there, just gotta wait for it to develop...
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so just making music to say oh i stayed in my known lane ='s good to people now? come on now,i think this guy got some talent but all i heard was a safe album,when this album has it's run it's over (no pun),and i think this equal could do way better, but i guess that's what the game is now, em just came out with two safe songs,guess i got to put faith in kanye as a rapper that sells in the mainstream now yell
Well, it works two ways. Either you try to create something that isn't you, and end up with some awkward "forced' music, that doesn't work for you... Or you make the music you feel like, the music you want to make, and people who fit your niche will know what you're talking about.
I honestly think this is the limits of Drake's ability, I don't think he was "playing it safe", just that this is all he's capable of at this point. I am betting his second CD will dwarf this effort though. He needs growth, that's all.
i think it deals with who he works with as the executive producer, i mean if he had one to push him to make better material he could,instead of the kiss asses who say oh this worked for you and it's working for bob so lets do the singing thing more, and with artist in hip hop i always go bacc to two artist b.i.g. and group home, big wasn't really trying to do that gloss rap but what he did with it was still sound ill and make the best pop record possible when he did those joints, and also the group home album, them equals wasn't no great rappers or good rappers but premo and guru production and executive producing that shit made they average rhymes sound better, hell it's even that way with william roberts if the album is put together right even if equals ain't braille'n you as a person or your image or what not they will fucc with your project yell
Well Wiki says he exec prod. his own album, so there is the smoking gun right there. Also, Wayne and Birdman obviously oversaw alot of the project, which also doesn't help you.
The talent and potential is there, just gotta wait for it to develop...
drake killed it on his first mixtape, he def has the ability to rap. I think he dumbed his shit down to follow the money making formula (singing on the hook, easy to remember punchlines, talking about money and fame in his songs etc)
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i went back and did what i said i wasnt gon do i downloaded the grouprip and givin it another spin and the second time around there are a few tracks im feelin i guess im givin this more of a chance then last time the beats are pretty dope drake comes correct on some its an aight album not mind blown but decent
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drake talking tough about lil kims comments hahahaha this kid know if kim stepped to him he would call the slicc bitches on her,hahaha i hate when cowards talk tough knowing damn well they cream puffs, album is pop and with each listen it doesn't get better, and this guy ain't executive produce this album hahaha birdman will get that checc i put chipper jones on it, these new equals make to many dumb ass statements today to, from jay electronica to this guy,i fuccs with the music but like that skit prodigy had on the infamous album alot of these herbs make you want to just walk up to em and punch em in the mouth on some high school shit foreal yell
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I was originally going to wait until this dropped on the 15th but I couldn't resist the temptation :laugh:.
I thought it was a pretty solid album. "Show Me A Good Time" and "Over" were on replay for most of my day, the rest I either didn't bother to listen to thoroughly yet (Find Your Love) or wished they could've sounded better (Shut It Down).
I did enjoy this enough to convince myself to buy a copy on the 15th though :).
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i dont know why im listening to this, but its doing nothing for me, production is so boring, and his raping its too much like lil wayne (not a good thing) despite being very corny and elementary, his r &b sounds too forced and i hate r&b not from the early mid 90s.... my 2 pennies.
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Thank Me Later>>>>Recovery
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Thank Me Later>>>>Recovery
Thats like saying this cat shit>>that dog shit.