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Title: Question 4 tha eminem haters
Post by: HBKid_Jr on July 04, 2002, 02:06:45 PM
I see a lot of people, not so much on this board even tho there is a few of u that hate on him.  A lot of it has 2 do wit his content.  He came a lot more mature on this album an people still bitch about his content,  what do u want 2 hear him spit.  Would u rather hear him be a pimp,  or maybe how he slangs rock wit tha occasional crip chant.  what tha fuck u want from him
Title: Re: Question 4 tha eminem haters
Post by: Maestro Minded on July 04, 2002, 03:59:59 PM
im not a hater (but i dislike  most of eminem tracks)... but ima try to answer anyway

his latest album is his better of the 3 released...stil avreage i think... the first to were kindergarden rap combined with parental advisory language... talkin about how he's killing females, talkin shit about britney, cristina, fred durst, other postars, gay people... basicly people that cant defend theirself...

in this new album he's laying low with that, but insted he's acting to much of a gansta, a veteran who've seen everything and done everthig... the goverment-conslusion he's rhyming about is something every american who use their mind have figured out.. so if i check the content, he's not bringin something new...

lyricly, his last album aint much.. he's mixing wack lyrics like "superman", White America" (Yo.. never was a thug, just infatuated with guns / Never was a gangsta, 'til I graduated to one) .. he cant say that he never been a thug, and then claim that he became a gangsta... thug and gangsta is the same thing in hiphop... and i dont think eminem ment that he became "Em Corleone" or something... and i dont think that the rest of that track is hella impressive either... but there are "decent" tracks too.. i cant ignor them..


i think most eminem haters hates eminem because eminem changes thaught all the time, in track 1, he claims being a gangster, in track 2 he claims being a good father, in track to he claims being a bad father, in track 4 he claims watever..




now i dont people will start bitchin over this post and call me hater for dissing thei biggest hero, but tom187 asked a question and i gave me response

Title: Re: Question 4 tha eminem haters
Post by: topdogg187 on July 04, 2002, 04:05:09 PM
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im not a hater (but i dislike  most of eminem tracks)... but ima try to answer anyway

his latest album is his better of the 3 released...stil avreage i think... the first to were kindergarden rap combined with parental advisory language... talkin about how he's killing females, talkin shit about britney, cristina, fred durst, other postars, gay people... basicly people that cant defend theirself...

in this new album he's laying low with that, but insted he's acting to much of a gansta, a veteran who've seen everything and done everthig... the goverment-conslusion he's rhyming about is something every american who use their mind have figured out.. so if i check the content, he's not bringin something new...

lyricly, his last album aint much.. he's mixing wack lyrics like "superman", White America" (Yo.. never was a thug, just infatuated with guns / Never was a gangsta, 'til I graduated to one) .. he cant say that he never been a thug, and then claim that he became a gangsta... thug and gangsta is the same thing in hiphop... and i dont think eminem ment that he became "Em Corleone" or something... and i dont think that the rest of that track is hella impressive either... but there are "decent" tracks too.. i cant ignor them..


i think most eminem haters hates eminem because eminem changes thaught all the time, in track 1, he claims being a gangster, in track 2 he claims being a good father, in track to he claims being a bad father, in track 4 he claims watever..




now i dont people will start bitchin over this post and call me hater for dissing thei biggest hero, but tom187 asked a question and i gave me response



i agree wit u 100% IBO. I would also like to add that i like rappers that entered the game wit a new style and didn't get famous bby sayin fuck the world and copyin pacs concept of rap.
Title: Re: Question 4 tha eminem haters
Post by: Sub-Z on July 04, 2002, 05:25:23 PM
i want him to quit rappin
Title: Re: Question 4 tha eminem haters
Post by: HBKid_Jr on July 04, 2002, 05:45:17 PM
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i agree wit u 100% IBO. I would also like to add that i like rappers that entered the game wit a new style and didn't get famous bby sayin fuck the world and copyin pacs concept of rap.

an how many rapper enter tha game wit a new style,  we might as well hate,  snoop,  daz,  kurupt an majority of tha west for copyin NWA an gangsta rap,  that guy drops more real shit than most tha rappers out there.  How many rappers have dropped songs like rock bottom, if i had, kim,  sing 4 tha moment,  cleaning out my closet etc... an also if u dont like what he rappin bout what should rap about than,  tha life he never lived
Title: Re: Question 4 tha eminem haters
Post by: topdogg187 on July 04, 2002, 07:03:32 PM
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an how many rapper enter tha game wit a new style,  we might as well hate,  snoop,  daz,  kurupt an majority of tha west for copyin NWA an gangsta rap,  that guy drops more real shit than most tha rappers out there.  How many rappers have dropped songs like rock bottom, if i had, kim,  sing 4 tha moment,  cleaning out my closet etc... an also if u dont like what he rappin bout what should rap about than,  tha life he never lived


actually he already be switchin up his styles every fucken song just like the homie IBO pointed out. I just think he should quit fucken around and get back to what he wuz on the slim shady lp and until he does that i will always hate him. IMO he had one good album. heres my ratings for his albums:

SSLP- 4.25/5
MMLP- 3/5
eminem show- 3.25/5

P.S. Snoop did bring his own style to the game. Before snoop came into the game no other rapper was known for their smooth voices while still maintaining hard lyrics. Every other gangsta rapper tried being all hard and shit while snoop stayed laid back and still brought us hard gangsta classics. While eminem broughtt nothin new to us because IMO the fuck the world act had already been around too long for having somone else use it as their main theme so eminem brrought nothin new to the rap game.
Title: Re: Question 4 tha eminem haters
Post by: HBKid_Jr on July 04, 2002, 07:10:16 PM
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actually he already be switchin up his styles every fucken song just like the homie IBO pointed out. I just think he should quit fucken around and get back to what he wuz on the slim shady lp and until he does that i will always hate him. IMO he had one good album. heres my ratings for his albums:

SSLP- 4.25/5
MMLP- 3/5
eminem show- 3.25/5

whats so different from sslp an eminem show,  he has hsi commercial song (whats my name-  without me) his serious joints (if i had,  rock bottom-cleanin out my closet, sing for tha moment),  hes got hs funny shit (guilty consicience-business).  U never answered my question tho,  if u dont like what he's spittin what do u want him 2
Title: Re: Question 4 tha eminem haters
Post by: The Watcher on July 04, 2002, 07:21:14 PM
Em comes with his own style I think. SSLP is probably my alltime fav album, altho I admit he has gone a bit downhill since that album and I'm not really into the serious stuff. It's good none the less, but i'd like it a bit better like most people if he switched his style back, rather than being serious. Too many serious people in the world, the world needs laughter!
Title: Re: Question 4 tha eminem haters
Post by: Sikotic™ on July 04, 2002, 07:52:40 PM
Thats what I enjoy about this last album, the subject matter changes on nearly every song. I dont see how you anyone can hate him for that.

The previous 2 was full of constant immature BS that just bored me. The Em Show got my attention alot longer.
Title: Re: Question 4 tha eminem haters
Post by: .:R-E-L:. on July 04, 2002, 07:55:00 PM
people might hate on him cuz hes white
Title: Re: Question 4 tha eminem haters
Post by: topdogg187 on July 04, 2002, 08:10:16 PM
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whats so different from sslp an eminem show,  he has hsi commercial song (whats my name-  without me) his serious joints (if i had,  rock bottom-cleanin out my closet, sing for tha moment),  hes got hs funny shit (guilty consicience-business).  U never answered my question tho,  if u dont like what he's spittin what do u want him 2


oh sorry bout that homie i thought i did answer it but i'll say it again. I want em to go back to his original style that he had on the SSLP. He used to spit way better lyrics and he back then wasn't dissin popstars constantly liike he is now. So i want him to start spittin lyrics that are funny like he used to without doin bullshit like sayin dumb shit bout nsync and britney spears. OH I ALMOST FORGOT THE MOST IMPORTANT REASON I HATE EMINEM AND THAT IS BEACAUSE HE GETS BORING AND ANNOYING QUICKER THEN ANY OTHER RAPPER IN THE GAME RIGHT NOW.
Title: Re: Question 4 tha eminem haters
Post by: HBKid_Jr on July 04, 2002, 08:14:08 PM
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oh sorry bout that homie i thought i did answer it but i'll say it again. I want em to go back to his original style that he had on the SSLP. He used to spit way better lyrics and he back then wasn't dissin popstars constantly liike he is now. So i want him to start spittin lyrics that are funny like he used to without doin bullshit like sayin dumb shit bout nsync and britney spears.

he ddint mention britney once on his new album an he mentioned one member of nysnc once on tha album.  so whats wit this constantly shit.  
Title: Re: Question 4 tha eminem haters
Post by: topdogg187 on July 04, 2002, 08:22:31 PM
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he ddint mention britney once on his new album an he mentioned one member of nysnc once on tha album.  so whats wit this constantly shit.  


read the part i just added into my post and u'll find the main reason that i completely forgot about. Thats the MAIN reason i hate and can't stand listenin to eminem.
Title: Re: Question 4 tha eminem haters
Post by: Gangsta_T on July 04, 2002, 09:13:11 PM
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I want em to go back to his original style that he had on the SSLP. He used to spit way better lyrics and he back then wasn't dissin popstars constantly liike he is now. So i want him to start spittin lyrics that are funny like he used to without doin bullshit like sayin dumb shit bout nsync and britney spears. OH I ALMOST FORGOT THE MOST IMPORTANT REASON I HATE EMINEM AND THAT IS BEACAUSE HE GETS BORING AND ANNOYING QUICKER THEN ANY OTHER RAPPER IN THE GAME RIGHT NOW.



i agree totally !
Title: Re: Question 4 tha eminem haters
Post by: Gangsta_T on July 04, 2002, 10:17:32 PM
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i want him to quit rappin


word
Title: Re: Question 4 tha eminem haters
Post by: Maestro Minded on July 04, 2002, 11:29:03 PM
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Thats what I enjoy about this last album, the subject matter changes on nearly every song. I dont see how you anyone can hate him for that.

The previous 2 was full of constant immature BS that just bored me. The Em Show got my attention alot longer.


thats how a mixtape should be.. not am album.. an album gotta have a topic... an album shall speak one language.. eminems album speak 20 languages each time
Title: Re: Question 4 tha eminem haters
Post by: =[Euthanasia]= on July 05, 2002, 04:11:27 AM
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thats how a mixtape should be.. not am album.. an album gotta have a topic... an album shall speak one language.. eminems album speak 20 languages each time


Umm, The Eminem Show did have a topic, it was Em spitting about things that HE see's, that HE's been through, how HE see's the world, hence the name. If you can't see/hear that maybe your not listening hard enough. The whole point of the SSLP, MMLP & TES is that it's like a series, looking at all the different sides of his personality and how he's grown and how his opinions and feelings have changed throughout the years. Maybe if you listen to them in sequence you'll realise this and appreciate him more. His style and purpose is really not as simple as it may seem.
Title: Re: Question 4 tha eminem haters
Post by: ghank on July 05, 2002, 06:32:07 AM
Man, it just keep getting worse for tha haters. Everyone knows em spits ill lyrics. Although I could do without dissing popstars and all that, it doesn't mean Em isn't a tight M.C./
Yall seem to forget Em got to where he is by battling other M.C.'s and although I'm a big Snoop dog fan (couldn;t imagine the rap game without the godfather), Snoop, wasn't battling M.C.'S. In fact, if we're just going for M.C. skills Em is the shit. I have to agree with the master on one thing the beats could've been better but other than that Em kills it lyrically. Like  this .... "  Somebody you would give a lung to be, hUNGARY like a f_ckin younger me!! F_ck the fee I could get you jump for free../// It's ill how Em speaks about being young and hungry.. You have to admit the industry has alot of pull on what you can and cannot say. Yall made some good points but EM is tight..
Title: Re: Question 4 tha eminem haters
Post by: shlomid1 on July 05, 2002, 08:46:21 PM
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i want him to quit rappin

i want em stop rappin beacous i want dre too get of his nuts and go back to ride with snoop and all the others from the west.
Title: Re: Question 4 tha eminem haters
Post by: On The Edge of Insanity on July 07, 2002, 06:09:40 AM
Well to me Eminem has always just been a cheap imitation of Chino XL, except for the fact that he just disses people who he knows won't diss back, and he is constantly trying to appeal to a pop audience. You see Chino rapped contraversial things about other MC's and the state of America in general. I mean look at who Eminem disses:

Britney, Christina, N Sync, Moby, Limp Bizkit.

Can you really imagine any of those people dissing him back?

Lets be honest here, in a way Eminem is even more pop than say Nelly, cause I don't think Nelly is trying to be pop, it is just that he isn't very good at rapping, whereas Eminem does have Emceeing skills, but he trys to gain fans of pop music, by dissing people who also sell pop, and thereby putting himself into competition with them rather than other rappers.

What I really want from Eminem, is for him to break away from Dre, and his cheap imitation of Dre's production style, and go back to his roots, and start making records like the Infinite LP or the Slim Shady EP, cause back then he was hot. And finally, get rid of D12, even if they are his homies, the only decent one of them is Proof, and the rest, especially Bizarre are pretty shit.
Title: Re: Question 4 tha eminem haters
Post by: ExZit on July 08, 2002, 01:21:32 AM
the reason why the most ppl dont like him is because he is overrated... i dont like him very much, he is good at rappin.. with OK lyrics.. he is OK... nuthin more IMO  :-/
Title: Re: Question 4 tha eminem haters
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on July 08, 2002, 08:11:55 AM
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the reason why the most ppl dont like him is because he is overrated... i dont like him very much, he is good at rappin.. with OK lyrics.. he is OK... nuthin more IMO  :-/






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Title: Re: Question 4 tha eminem haters
Post by: DPGC2001 on July 08, 2002, 08:21:32 AM
I know alot of black dudes who like Eminem and alot of white dudes who think he's wack...I think people think he's wack cause they know he's on MTV all the time and makes comercialized tracks like Without Me...I don't hate the guy but I do think dude is overrated especially about him being a great lyricist...He really ain't saying nothing deep, it's just that his flow and delivery are so on point and he rides a beat like probably no other rapper today...
Title: Re: Question 4 tha eminem haters
Post by: BL7 on July 08, 2002, 08:41:09 AM
Well tha beats he produced on his new album are str8 garbage. I wasn't feeling any of them. Lyrically he's good, nice flow, but he gets boring fast to me. Just don't like his style, I ain't hatin' or anything, just never liked him much.
Title: Re: Question 4 tha eminem haters
Post by: caTASHtrophe on July 08, 2002, 09:39:00 AM
U the man BL7..

Mario is gonna rock...

Oh and what u think of Eternal Darkness, Its ok but not as good as ppl made out i think.


Oh and as far as this Eminem thing goes, i liked Infinite and "Murder Murder" but other than that im with "Say Hi To The Bad Guy"

:)
Title: Re: Question 4 tha eminem haters
Post by: BL7 on July 08, 2002, 09:48:39 AM
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U the man BL7..

Mario is gonna rock...

Oh and what u think of Eternal Darkness, Its ok but not as good as ppl made out i think.


Oh and as far as this Eminem thing goes, i liked Infinite and "Murder Murder" but other than that im with "Say Hi To The Bad Guy"

:)


Damn str8! You'll get smacked if ya hate on Mario. ;D As for Eternal Darkness, I think some people may have overrated it, but it IS incredible. Best game I've played in a while.
Title: Re: Question 4 tha eminem haters
Post by: infinite59 on July 08, 2002, 10:00:20 AM
Nobody really answered Tom's question.  I mean, what the fuck do ya'll want him to rap about?

People hate him because he's white, and he threatens their brief, narrow vision of what a rapper should be.

Title: Re: Question 4 tha eminem haters
Post by: topdogg187 on July 08, 2002, 10:15:09 AM
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Nobody really answered Tom's question.  I mean, what the fuck do ya'll want him to rap about?

People hate him because he's white, and he threatens their brief, narrow vision of what a rapper should be.



no i dislike him because he is annoying as fuck and his albums/songs have no replay value whatsoever.
Title: Re: Question 4 tha eminem haters
Post by: HBKid_Jr on July 08, 2002, 10:33:58 AM
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Nobody really answered Tom's question.  I mean, what the fuck do ya'll want him to rap about?

People hate him because he's white, and he threatens their brief, narrow vision of what a rapper should be.


word.  tha best is when eazy-e faNs say he his voice is annoying
Title: Re: Question 4 tha eminem haters
Post by: Nima - Dubcnn.com on July 08, 2002, 11:34:11 AM
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word.  tha best is when eazy-e faNs say he his voice is annoying


lol