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Title: Pras vs. Wyclef - The war is on !!!!!!!
Post by: Jome on July 06, 2003, 07:22:13 PM
I heard Pras throwing shots @ Wyclef in a few joints..

And Wyclef have replied.. Wyclef KILLS Pras, IMO..
It's almost harder than Dre & 50's Ja Rule-slaying..

Check this out:


Artist: Wyclef
Album:  N/A - DJ L - An incredible mixtape
Song:   Freestyle
Typed by: Jome


[Wyclef talking]
Yeah, this is Wy-CLEF (Preacher son)
Fresh, brand new material
J Records, nahmasaying ? (Preacher son)
Yo, my cuzzin Lee gave me a call from Brooklyn saying "Pras from the Fugees is dissing"
I say "You gotta be KIDDING, I luuv the Fugees"
*Ghetto Superstar, that is (not) what you are*
Let's go..

[Wyclef]
Yo, you and I know you never wrote the +Ghetto Superstar+
Think about it, on +The Score+ every song 8 BARS
An average MC is 16, so you ain't a rap-artist, you a Kon artist
yeah, I seen your movie son, it made my stomach turn
critics in the theater screaming "Burn Hollywood, BURN!"
Me I said, no, I was smoking on a roach
But between me and you: you should murder your acting coach
You getting desperate you want street props
so you went and did a song with Sheek from D-Block
I guess you paid them double, cuz they don't like you
'Cause after that wack ass verse, STYLES SHOULD HAVE STABBED YOU !!
Let me speak English, so you can understand
You was never a Fugee-member, you was a HYPEMAN
So go Hammer, go, me I'm just dope
And every seven years I change faces like the Pope (?)
And you right, I don't drink Coke
I drink Pepsi, nah I ain't pop, they just paid me like Britney
Last of the hiphop-musicians to live
And to the homeless, I give turkeys on Thanksgiving
But back to the battle son, you aint got no armor
You know you gonna die, you're a suicide BOMBER
Matter of fact, I don't want you back
I want that ghostwriter that wrote that wack rhyme for you
Tell him I said it, his name should be anus
Pras, you aint famous, you're almost nameless
But after this song, I'ma make you famous
I'ma give you a record-deal, and sign you to my penis!
And the fans wants the Fugees back together
The only thing they don't want, is the THIRD MEMBER
+Ready or not, Refugees taking over+, that's your rap ?? GIMME MY PUBLISHING BACK!
*How many mics do we rip on the daily
many money say me say many many many*
I'ma call ASCAP, let them know you a phony
Give me the Grammies back, Milli Vanilli!!
Cuz I'ma grown man, I don't play with kids
I'ma drop you harder than SONY DID !!




Title: Re:Pras vs. Wyclef - The war is on !!!!!!!
Post by: .:Hercy Buggz:. on July 06, 2003, 07:28:40 PM
WOush!!!! ouch!!! ,I wonder why they are beefing...they are family
Title: Re:Pras vs. Wyclef - The war is on !!!!!!!
Post by: Noon Bank$ on July 06, 2003, 07:32:34 PM
WOush!!!! ouch!!! ,I wonder why they are beefing...they are family

I know! I was wondering tha same thing. That shit is pretty hot.

Title: Re:Pras vs. Wyclef - The war is on !!!!!!!
Post by: Don Breezio on July 06, 2003, 08:03:50 PM
i hope this isnt the same fuckin reason that the fugees broke up...they have to have some new shit goin on or somethin shit.
Title: Re:Pras vs. Wyclef - The war is on !!!!!!!
Post by: Don Breezio on July 06, 2003, 08:14:04 PM

Let me speak English, so you can understand
You was never a Fugee-member, you was a HYPEMAN

I'ma give you a record-deal, and sign you to my penis!

Give me the Grammies back, Milli Vanilli!!
Cuz I'ma grown man, I don't play with kids
I'ma drop you harder than SONY DID !!


oooh god damn! that had to hurt! especially that hype man line...damn clef killed him.
Title: Re:Pras vs. Wyclef - The war is on !!!!!!!
Post by: Don Breezio on July 06, 2003, 09:57:52 PM
Album:  N/A - DJ L - An incredible mixtape

this is from the new streetsweepers compilation (Checkmate: It's Your Move Queen)
Title: Re:Pras vs. Wyclef - The war is on !!!!!!!
Post by: Jome on July 06, 2003, 10:00:40 PM
Album:  N/A - DJ L - An incredible mixtape

this is from the new streetsweepers compilation (Checkmate: It's Your Move Queen)

Naww, 2 different mixtapes.
This track is probably gonna be on 10 diff. mixtapes anyways..
Title: Re:Pras vs. Wyclef - The war is on !!!!!!!
Post by: Don Breezio on July 06, 2003, 10:03:02 PM
Album:  N/A - DJ L - An incredible mixtape

this is from the new streetsweepers compilation (Checkmate: It's Your Move Queen)

Naww, 2 different mixtapes.
This track is probably gonna be on 10 diff. mixtapes anyways..


lol true dat...any idea where i can get the wyclef disses by pras?
Title: Re:Pras vs. Wyclef - The war is on !!!!!!!
Post by: S.G.V. on July 06, 2003, 10:17:03 PM
lauryn murdered wyclef...he knew he cant go at lauryn...shed destroy him...but pras...poor guy...he always the outcast...i need to get this track...
Title: Re:Pras vs. Wyclef - The war is on !!!!!!!
Post by: Dj Eskimo on July 07, 2003, 05:47:38 AM
download the track at http://www.digiwaxx.com/ Clef fucked pras up!
Title: Re:Pras vs. Wyclef - The war is on !!!!!!!
Post by: Don Seer on July 07, 2003, 05:51:22 AM
damn now they all fallen out... shame they used to be so tight  :(
Title: Re:Pras vs. Wyclef - The war is on !!!!!!!
Post by: On The Edge of Insanity on July 07, 2003, 10:33:55 AM
Damn, Wyclef totally killed him. I can't really see how Pras is gonna reply to that. He probably knows that he is seen as the least talented member of the Fugees, and I don't think he has got anything that can beat what Wyclef has said. Oh well, maybe we can still hope for a Lauren Hill and Wyclef duo album, but it looks like a full on Fugees reunion is very unlikely now.
Title: Re:Pras vs. Wyclef - The war is on !!!!!!!
Post by: Don Breezio on July 07, 2003, 11:40:55 AM
while wyclef did kill him easily...i have to disagree w/ one thing he said:

Quote
yeah, I seen your movie son, it made my stomach turn
critics in the theater screaming "Burn Hollywood, BURN!"

i loved "Turn It Up"...that movie was so dope...and pras is not a bad actor. in fact it is one of my top 10 movies of all time. the performance of war by pras & ja rule was off the hook. and jason stathams part as "B" was great...i guess clef didnt like the movie or he is just using that as part of his rhyme to attack pras more...but i really loved this movie.
Title: Re:Pras vs. Wyclef - The war is on !!!!!!!
Post by: OpTiCaL on July 07, 2003, 12:59:47 PM

     Wyclef Jean - Fake Ass Pras (Pras Diss)    


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Title: Re:Pras vs. Wyclef - The war is on !!!!!!!
Post by: STILLDRE IS THE GODFATHER on July 07, 2003, 01:51:09 PM
this is hot

clef ripped that shit
Title: Re:Pras vs. Wyclef - The war is on !!!!!!!
Post by: S.G.V. on July 07, 2003, 01:54:21 PM
i want a new wyclef album..hes got the dopest albums...
Title: Re:Pras vs. Wyclef - The war is on !!!!!!!
Post by: Jome on July 07, 2003, 09:04:08 PM
Hopefully Clef will move away from the soul/singing part.. and more into raw hiphop again.. limit the singing to a few choruses..
I don't wanna see Santana, Shania Twain or Bruce Springsteen on a Clef-album.. but then again he's known to move boundaries.
Title: Re:Pras vs. Wyclef - The war is on !!!!!!!
Post by: S.G.V. on July 08, 2003, 12:44:47 AM
Hopefully Clef will move away from the soul/singing part.. and more into raw hiphop again.. limit the singing to a few choruses..
I don't wanna see Santana, Shania Twain or Bruce Springsteen on a Clef-album.. but then again he's known to move boundaries.
lmao...u dont like singin do u?...damn...clef gets down on tracks where he harmonizes...i guess ur not open to different music tho...clef caters not just to hip hop...but to all music...
Title: Re:Pras vs. Wyclef - The war is on !!!!!!!
Post by: Don Jacob on July 08, 2003, 02:09:47 AM
personally i thought that rhyme was whack as fuck, i don't know how wyclef can sit there and say pras is whack when he's writing shit like that,lol.


but yeah he did go hard at him
Title: Re:Pras vs. Wyclef - The war is on !!!!!!!
Post by: Mua ha ha on July 08, 2003, 02:54:21 AM
personally i thought that rhyme was whack as fuck, i don't know how wyclef can sit there and say pras is whack when he's writing shit like that,lol.


but yeah he did go hard at him

So it was whack... but he went hard at him?  Uh....  ???
Title: Re:Pras vs. Wyclef - The war is on !!!!!!!
Post by: Don Jacob on July 08, 2003, 02:59:04 AM
his rhymes (as in the way he chose to rhyme his words ) was straight WHACK he sounded like he was just talking


but what he was saying (his point) went at him hard
Title: Re:Pras vs. Wyclef - The war is on !!!!!!!
Post by: On The Edge of Insanity on July 08, 2003, 01:35:07 PM
Clef's singing is actually better than his rapping sometimes, and that's what I buy Clef albums for. He has harmonies and shit in his songs but for the most part they still dope as hell songs cause he does that shit well. It's not like he's just some rapper who is a wannabe rnb singer, because his singing, both rnb style and reggae style is dope as hell.
Title: Re:Pras vs. Wyclef - The war is on !!!!!!!
Post by: Don Rizzle on July 08, 2003, 03:06:52 PM
and wyclef was always goin on about doin a reunion album.... ::)
Title: Re:Pras vs. Wyclef - The war is on !!!!!!!
Post by: Twentytwofifty on July 08, 2003, 03:16:34 PM
His lyrics on this track are good, some nice disses but it's too bad he sounds like ass on this track, his delivery sucks here.  His flow is pretty good.
Title: Re:Pras vs. Wyclef - The war is on !!!!!!!
Post by: -KuNiVaA- on July 08, 2003, 03:46:16 PM
man.. wycelf could not rap to save his life, i remember when he tried to freestyle with Jin on B.E.T and he was horrible... overrall, he had sum nice baby rhymes, but as always, his delievery was real weak.. Lauren was never interested in a Fugree reunion, i could have sworn she was glad when they broke up because she never had any freedom.  
Title: Re:Pras vs. Wyclef - The war is on !!!!!!!
Post by: Hater Player on July 08, 2003, 08:07:07 PM
when did lauren go at him n shit?
Title: Re:Pras vs. Wyclef - The war is on !!!!!!!
Post by: Trauma-san on July 09, 2003, 04:18:15 PM
I think Lauryn only did a couple stabs here and there, I know on her miseducation album she said some stuff about him indiscreet like on that Doo Wop song.  

Anyways, this song is alright.  It's not amazing or anything, LOL I was reading the lyrics, and figured Wyclef would rhyme it with his cool voice, when he's sounding all surprised and excited like Eminem or something "Dr. DRE! Don't Just SIT THERE, OPERATE!!!" you know what I'm saying.  If wyclef came with that voice, like he USUALLY does, this diss would have killed Pras.

Instead he basically just read it, maybe he's freestyling, I dunno?  He's not hyped up at all, he just sounds like he's bored, or half drunk, or both.

Wyclef is one of those guys that's a bored genius.  This guy is a straight up MUSICAL GENIUS, the kind we don't see very much, but he gets bored, and just puts out weird stuff because it's interesting to him.  If he gets in the mood, he can murder most emcees, in my opinion, he's really talented.  He's just bored, and doesn't feel like being inspired.  It's the same disease busta, snoop, missy elliot, etc. all have.  They all have the potential to be mindblowing, but they're just bored.  Snoop ain't really a geinus, he's just tight with rhymes, the other 3 are straight up musical geniuses.  Even If I can't spell it.  

Examples of musical geniuses who stay creative, and don't get bored:

R. Kelly
Dr. Dre (sort of, right now he's stagnant, but I think that's on purpose)
DJ Quik
DJ Premiere
Title: Re:Pras vs. Wyclef - The war is on !!!!!!!
Post by: Trauma-san on July 09, 2003, 04:20:46 PM
and wyclef was always goin on about doin a reunion album.... ::)

Wyclef has been innocent in ALL this crap, though.  He's been talking like the fugees never even broke up, from day 1.  The entire time, he's been wanting to do another fugee album, since they completed their last one, he's never said a negative thing about either one of them.

Then Lauryn gets out, and breaks out as a star, and just forgets about him, they talked a little about an album and nothing came of it.  

Meanwhile, Wyclef's saying he'll go in the studio at any time to start a new album.

Then Pras goes around doing this type of stuff.  Wyclef's not the one to blame here, it's all on the other 2.  
Title: Re:Pras vs. Wyclef - The war is on !!!!!!!
Post by: .:Hercy Buggz:. on July 09, 2003, 04:24:32 PM
Hopefully Clef will move away from the soul/singing part.. and more into raw hiphop again.. limit the singing to a few choruses..
I don't wanna see Santana, Shania Twain or Bruce Springsteen on a Clef-album.. but then again he's known to move boundaries.

dont agree with that my Brotha
Title: Re:Pras vs. Wyclef - The war is on !!!!!!!
Post by: Trauma-san on July 09, 2003, 04:27:48 PM
^^ Yeah, I agree too, his album "The Carnival" (I THINK that's what it was called, right?) was off the hook, and he sang all over it.  His first solo album.  "Guantanamera", LOL
Title: Re:Pras vs. Wyclef - The war is on !!!!!!!
Post by: S.G.V. on July 10, 2003, 12:17:21 PM
when did lauren go at him n shit?
u might win some....but u really lost one...



lost ones...
Title: Re:Pras vs. Wyclef - The war is on !!!!!!!
Post by: Don Breezio on July 10, 2003, 12:35:43 PM
clef is one of the most talented mc's out there...the carnival was straight fire...that had some of the dopest tracks ive ever heard (guantanamera, bubblegoose, year of the dragon, to all the girls, street jeopardy, stayin alive, mona lisa, and many others)...and the ecleftic album was dope as well...some of the tracks on there werent as good but it had some hot tracks too (where fugees at?, it doesnt matter, thug angel, diallo, 911, etc...) and then the masquerade album i havent listened to much because the first time i heard it i didnt pay much attention (like a year ago lol) and i havent gotten around to listening to it again sadly...i will though and im sure its just as dope. imo wyclef is way better as a solo artist than he was with the fugees...lauryn hill aint shit...and pras had some good songs but the majority of his ghetto superstar album was bullshit. i do think clef came a little weak in his flow on this freestyle and the lyrics could've been better...but even saying that...that freestyle would've still killed most mc's...thats why i would say wyclef is probably one of the best mc's of all time and he deserves a lot more respect than he gets...his style is so diverse...he can rap, sing, or do reggae...even have a little bit of rock on an album and it is all dope. i would never call wyclef a straight hip hop artist...in general he is but he doesnt just do hip hop and thats one thing i respect the most about him. clef is dope as a mf