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Title: '94 Case Get 2pac Killed? & Amaru Tarnishing 2pac's Legacy - Natasha Walker Part
Post by: jmix on February 19, 2014, 09:03:09 PM
Final Part With Natasha Walker Press Play!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x81n22v9yyY
Title: Re: '94 Case Get 2pac Killed? & Amaru Tarnishing 2pac's Legacy - Natasha Walker Part
Post by: abusive on February 20, 2014, 09:01:52 AM
What a minute now! Is she saying Pac snitched and that's how he got out of jail and was able to sign to DR? Or is she talking about the NY daily news article that AJ Benza ran that got the hit put out on Pac? That was told to AJ in a night club off record and ran in the gossip section of the paper. Pac probably never attended for that to be public knowledge. He got labeled a snitch but t wasn't his fault.
Title: Re: '94 Case Get 2pac Killed? & Amaru Tarnishing 2pac's Legacy - Natasha Walker Part
Post by: Black Excellence on February 20, 2014, 09:03:56 AM
What a minute now! Is she saying Pac snitched and that's how he got out of jail and was able to sign to DR? Or is she talking about the NY Post article that AJ Benza ran that got the hit put out on Pac? That was told to AJ in a night club off record and ran in the gossip section of the paper. Pac probably never attended for that to be public knowledge. He got labeled a snitch but t wasn't his fault.
that ny post article is what got pac hit up in '94.
Title: Re: '94 Case Get 2pac Killed? & Amaru Tarnishing 2pac's Legacy - Natasha Walker Part
Post by: Black Excellence on February 20, 2014, 09:07:59 AM
he wasn't a snitch but he damn sure was dry snitchin' puttin' the nigga's names who set him up in a record.
Title: Re: '94 Case Get 2pac Killed? & Amaru Tarnishing 2pac's Legacy - Natasha Walker Part
Post by: DeeezNuuuts83 on February 20, 2014, 01:25:25 PM
he wasn't a snitch but he damn sure was dry snitchin' puttin' the nigga's names who set him up in a record.
That's not really dry snitching though... dry snitching is more telling other people's business and airing out their dirty laundry when you don't have anything to do with it.

Regardless, I don't count that against Pac, since he was basically dared to do it.  When he went at Big and Puff on Hit 'Em Up and in interviews, I remember one of them (probably Puffy) saying that it was lame for Pac to diss them for supposedly setting it up but not going at his actual shooters or the guys behind it.  So he dissed them too.
Title: Re: '94 Case Get 2pac Killed? & Amaru Tarnishing 2pac's Legacy - Natasha Walker Part
Post by: Black Excellence on February 20, 2014, 01:28:24 PM
he wasn't a snitch but he damn sure was dry snitchin' puttin' the nigga's names who set him up in a record.
That's not really dry snitching though... dry snitching is more telling other people's business and airing out their dirty laundry when you don't have anything to do with it.

Regardless, I don't count that against Pac, since he was basically dared to do it.  When he went at Big and Puff on Hit 'Em Up and in interviews, I remember one of them (probably Puffy) saying that it was lame for Pac to diss them for supposedly setting it up but not going at his actual shooters or the guys behind it.  So he dissed them too.
he dry snitched all over against all odds.
Title: Re: '94 Case Get 2pac Killed? & Amaru Tarnishing 2pac's Legacy - Natasha Walker Part
Post by: DeeezNuuuts83 on February 20, 2014, 01:35:22 PM
Not anymore than any other rapper does when dissing someone else.  You could say Snoop and Dre were dry snitching all over Fuck wit Dre Day.

I finally listened to this interview... this lady is overdramatizing so much shit.  Fucking everybody and their mama is all on some "I almost went to Vegas and could've been shot if I went so I'm glad I didn't go" shit.  I'm tired of everyone acting like if they had rolled to Vegas they would've been in the backseat of the BMW and caught some of those bullets.
Title: Re: '94 Case Get 2pac Killed? & Amaru Tarnishing 2pac's Legacy - Natasha Walker Part
Post by: GangstaBoogy on February 20, 2014, 06:43:51 PM
Not anymore than any other rapper does when dissing someone else.  You could say Snoop and Dre were dry snitching all over Fuck wit Dre Day.

No you couldn't. Not the same thing at all.

Hip-Hop fans are full of double standards. Example: 2Pac called out the names of real street niggas who he had run ins with....he's labeled being honest / keeping it real. 50 did the exact same thing...he's a dry snitched / he got niggas locked up.

Now to be fair 50 has done done other questionable things that seems like he was trying to get other rappers into legal trouble but sorry not buying into him being a snitch for calling a spade a spade.
Title: Re: '94 Case Get 2pac Killed? & Amaru Tarnishing 2pac's Legacy - Natasha Walker Part
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on February 20, 2014, 07:12:15 PM
50 cent had no reason to drop names on ghetto quaran


he wasn't shot by then
Title: Re: '94 Case Get 2pac Killed? & Amaru Tarnishing 2pac's Legacy - Natasha Walker Part
Post by: Black Excellence on February 20, 2014, 07:26:54 PM
50 cent had no reason to drop names on ghetto quaran


he wasn't shot by then
tupac had no reason to drop street dudes names on against all odds they weren't rappers
Title: Re: '94 Case Get 2pac Killed? & Amaru Tarnishing 2pac's Legacy - Natasha Walker Part
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on February 20, 2014, 07:28:48 PM
50 cent had no reason to drop names on ghetto quaran


he wasn't shot by then
tupac had no reason to drop street dudes names on against all odds they weren't rappers

had no reason?  they set him up and were working in the rap industry (lil shawn, wyclef etC)
Title: Re: '94 Case Get 2pac Killed? & Amaru Tarnishing 2pac's Legacy - Natasha Walker Part
Post by: Black Excellence on February 20, 2014, 07:33:03 PM
50 cent had no reason to drop names on ghetto quaran


he wasn't shot by then
tupac had no reason to drop street dudes names on against all odds they weren't rappers

had no reason?  they set him up and were working in the rap industry (lil shawn, wyclef etC)
wyclef had nothin' to do wit that. pac got shot for runnin' his mouth to the press and tryin' to be somethin' he wasn't. it's funny how dudes give pac props for bussin' at the cops in atl but he did not shoot them niggas back that set him up.
Title: Re: '94 Case Get 2pac Killed? & Amaru Tarnishing 2pac's Legacy - Natasha Walker Part
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on February 20, 2014, 09:05:45 PM
Pac never snitched on anyone like TI so you get insecure about other rappers it's okay baby cakes
Title: Re: '94 Case Get 2pac Killed? & Amaru Tarnishing 2pac's Legacy - Natasha Walker Part
Post by: DeeezNuuuts83 on February 20, 2014, 10:24:55 PM
Not anymore than any other rapper does when dissing someone else.  You could say Snoop and Dre were dry snitching all over Fuck wit Dre Day.

No you couldn't. Not the same thing at all.

Hip-Hop fans are full of double standards. Example: 2Pac called out the names of real street niggas who he had run ins with....he's labeled being honest / keeping it real. 50 did the exact same thing...he's a dry snitched / he got niggas locked up.

Now to be fair 50 has done done other questionable things that seems like he was trying to get other rappers into legal trouble but sorry not buying into him being a snitch for calling a spade a spade.
It's not a double standard.  People say what they say about 50 because he was speaking on stuff that didn't have to do with him and naming street figures and talking about what they did and describing what they looked like, all for the sake of telling a story that didn't really involve him.  But he did also speak on his own shooting and went at some of them lyrically along with some other rappers who were down with them.  If he only did the latter, then people wouldn't call 50 a snitch... though part of that whole snitch thing is from the accusations that Murder Inc. was throwing at him for the alleged restraining order shit and having police escorts or whatever.  Definitely not the same situation, certainly not enough to say it's a double standard.

50 cent had no reason to drop names on ghetto quaran


he wasn't shot by then
tupac had no reason to drop street dudes names on against all odds they weren't rappers
And before that, he named people who WERE rappers, and then they were calling him out for not actually going at the guys who actually handled it, then he did.  I'm not sure what the problem is with that, especially since if he never dissed them, then people would be saying shit anyway about how he only dissed rappers.

It was a precursor to modern battle rap... watch anything these days from URL or UW, people are dissing people's girlfriends and finding out which other battle rappers the girl fucked before, dissing rappers' family members (whether they are disabled, locked up or dead) and speaking on street situations too, if it takes away from their opponent's credibility.

50 cent had no reason to drop names on ghetto quaran


he wasn't shot by then
tupac had no reason to drop street dudes names on against all odds they weren't rappers

had no reason?  they set him up and were working in the rap industry (lil shawn, wyclef etC)
wyclef had nothin' to do wit that. pac got shot for runnin' his mouth to the press and tryin' to be somethin' he wasn't. it's funny how dudes give pac props for bussin' at the cops in atl but he did not shoot them niggas back that set him up.
Shooting two off-duty cops who were harassing someone else isn't the same as getting ambushed in an elevator by two guys with guns going straight for you when you don't see it coming.
Title: Re: '94 Case Get 2pac Killed? & Amaru Tarnishing 2pac's Legacy - Natasha Walker Part
Post by: jmix on March 13, 2014, 09:08:48 PM
in her defense, she did say it was a topic that most people dont wanna talk about..  its her tale, she can tell it.. but ouch, And I think it is just a personal thing with her. She loves PAC, but she seems mad or disappointed at him that he is dead..my take.


and to who ever said the thing about vegas and how everyone act like they woulda been shot too. That was classic. true shit. everytime i ask where were you when you heard Pac had been shot, they like I was in South Africa... on my way to VEGAS, and I CTFU on the inside.

 8)
Title: Re: '94 Case Get 2pac Killed? & Amaru Tarnishing 2pac's Legacy - Natasha Walker Part
Post by: kuruptDPG on March 14, 2014, 03:16:56 PM
again now shes also mentioned that shes awaiting pay from afeni...im strugglin to understand...this only suggest pac never pays anyone
Title: Re: '94 Case Get 2pac Killed? & Amaru Tarnishing 2pac's Legacy - Natasha Walker Part
Post by: DeeezNuuuts83 on March 14, 2014, 04:04:58 PM
again now shes also mentioned that shes awaiting pay from afeni...im strugglin to understand...this only suggest pac never pays anyone
It's hard for Pac to pay people when he's been dead for almost 18 years.
Title: Re: '94 Case Get 2pac Killed? & Amaru Tarnishing 2pac's Legacy - Natasha Walker Part
Post by: abusive on March 14, 2014, 07:42:00 PM
again now shes also mentioned that shes awaiting pay from afeni...im strugglin to understand...this only suggest pac never pays anyone
Or it could be royalties she's after. Pay usual comes out of an artist budget which the label pays anyway.
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Post by: 3rd Coast on March 14, 2014, 08:10:58 PM
he wasn't a snitch but he damn sure was dry snitchin' puttin' the nigga's names who set him up in a record.


nigga was a snitch, pac muhfuckin ass couldnt hold ice water

he ran his mouth to the news paper n to magazines


his greed got em in the situation he was in the first time... u got ya so called homeboy in biggie its not a good idea to fuck with them cats...then u got mike tyson...one of the baddest men alive at the time...tellin u the same shit...

nigga didnt listen...got caught up in a rape case...got shot ..blamed biggie n puffy...he was right biggie knew...the whole point of biggie tellin him in the beginnin when he 1st pac with them niggas, it wasnt a good ideal did he listen nope..

u got 2 niggas tellin u the same shit u get caught up anyway...he got shot and if i was biggie i would do the same exact shit biggie was doin..kuz as ya homeboy i looked out for ya best interest tellin u...dont..u did it anyway...


vegas...frank sorry as fuck, if he was a real bodyguard, regardless of who payin em, pac wouldnt have even been in that shit..then u got niggas tellin u to leave ya heat behind ...frank should have been on pac like white on rice

that whole situation was like a scene from juice...instead bishop didnt get stopped by the nigga with sense, when bishop wanted to go help blizzard stick up bar..and ended up gettin killed...

if tray wasnt man enough to keep his chain he shouldnve been wearin it in the first place


snoop should have let pac use his bodyguard mckinley wasnt a push over like frank...frank was too pretty

amaru aint tarnishing shit...june 16 n sept 13th pac life is still celebrated by his fans new n old
Title: Re: '94 Case Get 2pac Killed? & Amaru Tarnishing 2pac's Legacy - Natasha Walker Part
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on March 15, 2014, 12:09:16 AM
biggie knew what was gonna happen and should have fully warned Pac
Title: Re: '94 Case Get 2pac Killed? & Amaru Tarnishing 2pac's Legacy - Natasha Walker Part
Post by: 3rd Coast on March 15, 2014, 07:52:33 PM
biggie knew what was gonna happen and should have fully warned Pac


biggie wasnt built that way, and what happen was above his pay grade

biggie told em before hand not to fuck with them cats, everything afterwards was on pac

the way pac was he woulda ran his mouth sayin thanks to my nigga biggie...or somethin...would have gotten biggie in trouble
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Post by: AxleF on March 15, 2014, 10:02:47 PM
That's an interesting take on his release from prison.  I've always wondered about how on All Eyes he refers to himself as "On Bail."  We'll we all know that he got convicted and sentenced.  Bail is granted during pre-trial... I mean, he would have been required to wait for a parole hearing in that case, right? 

I'm not saying he straight up snitched to get out.  I would think paper work would have hit "the smoking gun" or something by now but it is odd how the conditions of his release were never really made clear... and obviously he wasn't on bail pending trial.. he was convicted and sentenced and like any convicted person... would be required to await parole.. or fight the appeals process.  So how did he get out and what exactly was the 1.5 front from Deathrow for?  Anyway... food for thought.. great interview.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupac_Shakur
"Shakur entered the courthouse in a wheelchair and was found guilty of three counts of molestation and not guilty of six others, including sodomy. On February 6, 1995, he was sentenced to one-and-a-half to four-and-a-half years in prison on the sexual assault charges."
Title: Re: '94 Case Get 2pac Killed? & Amaru Tarnishing 2pac's Legacy - Natasha Walker Part
Post by: MontrealCity's Most on March 15, 2014, 11:00:17 PM
Whos this girl she featured on two of his songs so she knows all this shit????
I dont really care about her opinion
Title: Re: '94 Case Get 2pac Killed? & Amaru Tarnishing 2pac's Legacy - Natasha Walker Part
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on March 16, 2014, 02:22:45 AM
Whos this girl she featured on two of his songs so she knows all this shit????
I dont really care about her opinion

I feel you homie about her acting like she knows everything... kind of funny... but ohh well, still great to see JMix rounding up all these contributors to the Death Row/Pac golden era.
Title: Re: '94 Case Get 2pac Killed? & Amaru Tarnishing 2pac's Legacy - Natasha Walker Part
Post by: abusive on March 16, 2014, 11:13:18 AM
That's an interesting take on his release from prison.  I've always wondered about how on All Eyes he refers to himself as "On Bail."  We'll we all know that he got convicted and sentenced.  Bail is granted during pre-trial... I mean, he would have been required to wait for a parole hearing in that case, right? 

I'm not saying he straight up snitched to get out.  I would think paper work would have hit "the smoking gun" or something by now but it is odd how the conditions of his release were never really made clear... and obviously he wasn't on bail pending trial.. he was convicted and sentenced and like any convicted person... would be required to await parole.. or fight the appeals process.  So how did he get out and what exactly was the 1.5 front from Deathrow for?  Anyway... food for thought.. great interview.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupac_Shakur
"Shakur entered the courthouse in a wheelchair and was found guilty of three counts of molestation and not guilty of six others, including sodomy. On February 6, 1995, he was sentenced to one-and-a-half to four-and-a-half years in prison on the sexual assault charges."

Another theory is David Kenner's sheer power within the legal system that he displayed for years. It has also been suggested that he has Genovese crime family ties as well. If so his mafia ties could possibly influence the court system enough to make a release happen. Just think training day when homie bought a warrant. Speaking of training day, can anyone confirm whether or not david mack is the inspiration behind Denzel's character? There are many similarities there. Spanish, robbing drug dealers, the blood connection etc.
Title: Re: '94 Case Get 2pac Killed? & Amaru Tarnishing 2pac's Legacy - Natasha Walker Part
Post by: jmix on April 01, 2014, 01:53:49 PM
well, natasha did more than 2 songs.. she did at least 5 by my count and was sleeping with Pac. Alot of artist did not get paid until they showed up at afenis door.. nutt so, although a different senario, is a prime example. If he hadnt handed over masters he would have probably not been paid, imo.