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Title: Why did No Limit albums always have the worst replay value?
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on April 15, 2017, 08:46:02 AM
That shit would sound like crack when you'd first listen to it... like you were a part of a movement that would take over rap... and the whole world...you'd look through the liner notes and start fiendin' for all the other albums advertised...shit was like crack... then by the 3rd listen your depressed and crashing down from the high--and then go about your life with a IQ deficit of a few points as the reward for the whole experience.

Anyone agree?  I think it was because P was like a great hype man almost like a WWE wrestler but it was mostly a facade--like 80% entertainment and 20% sport... maybe on another label a few artists like Mystical were quality...
Title: Re: Why did No Limit albums always have the worst replay value?
Post by: Blood$ on April 15, 2017, 09:06:05 AM
pretty much all of them have more replay value now more than ever especially C-Murder and Fiend's joints
Title: Re: Why did No Limit albums always have the worst replay value?
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on April 15, 2017, 10:02:22 AM
pretty much all of them have more replay value now more than ever especially C-Murder and Fiend's joints

I tried going back and listening and it still has the same effect.  Fast food music, insulin spike followed by bottoming out.
Title: Re: Why did No Limit albums always have the worst replay value?
Post by: doggfather on April 15, 2017, 10:10:23 AM
couse they wack.
Title: Re: Why did No Limit albums always have the worst replay value?
Post by: Blood$ on April 15, 2017, 10:23:03 AM
couse they wack.

have you even heard any No Limit albums to critique? their catalog is definitely better than Sick Wid It's, no question
Title: Re: Why did No Limit albums always have the worst replay value?
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on April 15, 2017, 10:52:40 AM
couse they wack.

have you even heard any No Limit albums to critique? their catalog is definitely better than Sick Wid It's, no question

Yeah it's better than Sick Wit It and better than most Bay Area rap (but that's not saying much)
Title: Re: Why did No Limit albums always have the worst replay value?
Post by: Sccit on April 15, 2017, 12:10:33 PM
couse they wack.

have you even heard any No Limit albums to critique? their catalog is definitely better than Sick Wid It's, no question

Yeah it's better than Sick Wit It and better than most Bay Area rap (but that's not saying much)

lol no


master p made his best shit in the bay
Title: Re: Why did No Limit albums always have the worst replay value?
Post by: doggfather on April 15, 2017, 01:03:13 PM
couse they wack.

have you even heard any No Limit albums to critique? their catalog is definitely better than Sick Wid It's, no question

Name a good album. Just one.
Title: Re: Why did No Limit albums always have the worst replay value?
Post by: Okka on April 15, 2017, 01:55:03 PM
couse they wack.

have you even heard any No Limit albums to critique? their catalog is definitely better than Sick Wid It's, no question

Name a good album. Just one.

"No Limit Top Dogg" and "Tha Last Meal".
Title: Re: Why did No Limit albums always have the worst replay value?
Post by: Blood$ on April 15, 2017, 03:22:13 PM
couse they wack.

have you even heard any No Limit albums to critique? their catalog is definitely better than Sick Wid It's, no question

Name a good album. Just one.

answer the original question I asked you first before coming at me with one lol but to answer:

Master P - The Ghettos Tryin to Kill Me!
Master P - 99 Ways to Die
TRU - True
Down South Hustlers: Bouncin' and Swingin'
Master P - Ice Cream Man
TRU - Tru 2 da Game
Master P - Ghetto D
Mystikal - Unpredictable
C-Murder - Life or Death
I Got the Hook Up Soundtrack
Fiend - There's One in Every Family
Soulja Slim - Give It 2 'Em Raw
Master P - MP Da Last Don
Mac - Shell Shocked
Snoop Dogg - Da Game Is to Be Sold, Not to Be Told
Skull Duggery - These Wicked Streets
Mean Green Compilation
Steady Mobb'n - Black Mafia
Mystikal - Ghetto Fabulous
C-Murder - Bossalinie
Snoop Dogg - No Limit Top Dogg
TRU - Da Crime Family
Fiend - Street Life
C-Murder - Trapped in Crime
Snoop Dogg - Tha Last Meal

and that's just based off what I heard or own, plus I probably missed a few
Title: Re: Why did No Limit albums always have the worst replay value?
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on April 15, 2017, 11:40:20 PM
couse they wack.

have you even heard any No Limit albums to critique? their catalog is definitely better than Sick Wid It's, no question

Name a good album. Just one.

"No Limit Top Dogg" and "Tha Last Meal".

Those only count from a legal (contract) standpoint.  He was still under contract with No Limit at the time.  But spiritually, Snoop had already gone back to his homies out West and back to the Long Beach sound (thank God) and subsequently Snoop had the resurgent period of his career from 99-2001.

The only album of Snoop's that is truly a No Limit album is the Game is To Be Sold album.  Which was good by No Limit standards, but was aided by Meach who, if nothing else, at least hooked Snoop up with a quality (non Beats By The Pound) lead single.





Title: Re: Why did No Limit albums always have the worst replay value?
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on April 15, 2017, 11:44:29 PM

Down South Hustlers: Bouncin' and Swingin'
 


"How Ya Do Dat Dere" was a fucking banger.  It lowered my IQ a few points but I remember bumping that shit for nearly a year straight in 97-98 the first year my friends and I started getting our license everyone was bumping that one.  In typical P fashion he milked it for all it was worth, I think it ended up on like 3 other albums like Young Bleeds album and I'm Bout It.  "I'm Bout It" was the best No Limit project they ever did.  The movie was kind of cool for a Low Budget Film and the Soundtrack had a lot of their best cuts.  That was right as No Limit was breaking through to the mainstream.
Title: Re: Why did No Limit albums always have the worst replay value?
Post by: doggfather on April 15, 2017, 11:56:05 PM
couse they wack.

have you even heard any No Limit albums to critique? their catalog is definitely better than Sick Wid It's, no question

Name a good album. Just one.

"No Limit Top Dogg" and "Tha Last Meal".

Those only count from a legal (contract) standpoint.  He was still under contract with No Limit at the time.  But spiritually, Snoop had already gone back to his homies out West and back to the Long Beach sound (thank God) and subsequently Snoop had the resurgent period of his career from 99-2001.

The only album of Snoop's that is truly a No Limit album is the Game is To Be Sold album.  Which was good by No Limit standards, but was aided by Meach who, if nothing else, at least hooked Snoop up with a quality (non Beats By The Pound) lead single.








+1

The others: all no limit albums feels like compilation from the actual label roaster. Too much and same feats and producers. If you listening just a single track you cant decide Which album from. None of em real albums IMO.
Title: Re: Why did No Limit albums always have the worst replay value?
Post by: Dogg Ly Dogg on April 16, 2017, 12:25:02 AM
couse they wack.

have you even heard any No Limit albums to critique? their catalog is definitely better than Sick Wid It's, no question

No, it's not.
Title: Re: Why did No Limit albums always have the worst replay value?
Post by: S.J on April 16, 2017, 02:00:49 AM
I liked No Limit when it was in the bay

Lil Ric - Deep N Tha Game
E-A-Ski - 1 Step Ahead of Yall
West Coast Bad Boyz Vol. 1 Anotha Level of the Game
Dangerous Dame - Escape from the Mental Ward
Master P - 99 Ways to Die
Master P - The Ghettos Tryin to Kill Me!
West Coast Bad Boyz: High Fo Xmas
Rally Ral - Something Kind Of Funky 

I never listened to much of the later stuff apart from Snoop Dogg and Master P MP Da Last Don
Title: Re: Why did No Limit albums always have the worst replay value?
Post by: Sccit on April 19, 2017, 11:09:38 AM
I liked No Limit when it was in the bay

Lil Ric - Deep N Tha Game
E-A-Ski - 1 Step Ahead of Yall
West Coast Bad Boyz Vol. 1 Anotha Level of the Game
Dangerous Dame - Escape from the Mental Ward
Master P - 99 Ways to Die
Master P - The Ghettos Tryin to Kill Me!
West Coast Bad Boyz: High Fo Xmas
Rally Ral - Something Kind Of Funky 

I never listened to much of the later stuff apart from Snoop Dogg and Master P MP Da Last Don


easily the best no limit era
Title: Re: Why did No Limit albums always have the worst replay value?
Post by: Don Seer on April 19, 2017, 11:27:35 AM
couse they wack.

have you even heard any No Limit albums to critique? their catalog is definitely better than Sick Wid It's, no question

Name a good album. Just one.

"No Limit Top Dogg" and "Tha Last Meal".

 :) :) :)
Title: Re: Why did No Limit albums always have the worst replay value?
Post by: bouli77 on April 19, 2017, 05:05:17 PM
I liked No Limit when it was in the bay

Lil Ric - Deep N Tha Game
E-A-Ski - 1 Step Ahead of Yall
West Coast Bad Boyz Vol. 1 Anotha Level of the Game
Dangerous Dame - Escape from the Mental Ward
Master P - 99 Ways to Die
Master P - The Ghettos Tryin to Kill Me!
West Coast Bad Boyz: High Fo Xmas
Rally Ral - Something Kind Of Funky 

I never listened to much of the later stuff apart from Snoop Dogg and Master P MP Da Last Don


easily the best no limit era

musically no doubt. E-A Ski & CMT, K-Lou, DJ Daryl, Larry D, Al Eaton produced classic songs. however, that's not the sound they're famous for and that's not what made them permanently leave a mark in the industry. it's kinda sad how people just think of No Limit as mediocre rappers over mediocre beats when they had skilled mc's (Mac, Young Bleed, Mia X, Fiend) and talented musicians and producers (K-Lou, Mo B. Dick, KLC)

As for good, cohesive No Limit projects, there are a host of them :

TRU - True
Master P - 99 Wayz To Die
Master P - Ice Cream Man
Mo B. Dick - Gangsta Harmony
Steady Mobb'n - Premeditated Drama
Young Bleed - My Balls & My Word

Not to mention classic compilations like the West Coast Badd Boyz Vol. 1&2 + High fo' X-Mas.

It's funny how Infinite talks about No Limit albums' replay value when he hasn't heard 1% of their catalogue.

Title: Re: Why did No Limit albums always have the worst replay value?
Post by: Blood$ on April 19, 2017, 05:18:51 PM
couse they wack.

have you even heard any No Limit albums to critique? their catalog is definitely better than Sick Wid It's, no question

No, it's not.

more classic albums released from artists = greater by default and strength in numbers... but I will say B-Legit is probably a better rapper than the whole No Limit roster
Title: Re: Why did No Limit albums always have the worst replay value?
Post by: bouli77 on April 19, 2017, 05:47:38 PM
couse they wack.

have you even heard any No Limit albums to critique? their catalog is definitely better than Sick Wid It's, no question

No, it's not.

more classic albums released from artists = greater by default and strength in numbers... but I will say B-Legit is probably a better rapper than the whole No Limit roster

more classic albums probably if you think of the impact of No Limit back then. but as far as 1) musical quality and 2) rap quality, I'd say that even the very best No Limit album will never come close to Sick Wid It's best releases. All in all, No Limit's catalogue is more stacked and has more depth, but Sick Wid It's level of quality is ridiculous.

B-Legit - Hemp Museum
Celly Cel - Killa Kali
E-40 - In A Major Way
Playaz Tryna Strive - All Frames of The Game
The Click - Game Related

are in my opinion intrinsically better than any album released on No Limit, all eras combined.
Title: Re: Why did No Limit albums always have the worst replay value?
Post by: Sccit on April 19, 2017, 07:14:45 PM
yea, thats a pretty bold claim...the best sick wid it shit absolutely shits on the best no limit shit.
Title: Re: Why did No Limit albums always have the worst replay value?
Post by: Blood$ on April 19, 2017, 10:22:47 PM
I'm just saying No Limit has more classics under their belt collectively as a label than Sick Wid It does lol you can only compare them musically to a degree since Master P's earlier shit was heavily Bay influenced and later on was more Southern
Title: Re: Why did No Limit albums always have the worst replay value?
Post by: on April 29, 2017, 01:41:21 PM
I do agree that NL albums drip retroactive wack juice, to me its because they felt mass produced and rushed out of the door (which they were).

Snoops first release when he jumped ship was absolutely horrendous as he went from well mixed, mastered and produced albums that had at least an element of cohesion into some cheap, tacky, beefed up MIDI produced sounds with semi coherent artists that could barely flow.

I often wonder if P and the south would have got as big as they did without the demise of DR and with it the dominance of the west.
Title: Re: Why did No Limit albums always have the worst replay value?
Post by: Blood$ on April 29, 2017, 03:50:25 PM
I just recently found Snoop's first album on No Limit for a few bucks and it was in the OG blue case so I bought it, after playing it in entirety for the first time in many years in the whip I have to say it really wasn't bad at all, granted I could see the backlash because it wasn't "real west coast"

I used to think it was just very average when I had it downloaded back in the day but now I would actually rank it higher than Doggfather (over-rated as fuck, only gets credit for the DPG features), Paid Da Cost To Be Da Boss (has some classics but inconsistent overall), and Malice N Wonderland (should have never even came out) lol maybe even Ego Trippin' too granted they are all very different musically

Title: Re: Why did No Limit albums always have the worst replay value?
Post by: Sccit on April 29, 2017, 09:01:27 PM
I just recently found Snoop's first album on No Limit for a few bucks and it was in the OG blue case so I bought it, after playing it in entirety for the first time in many years in the whip I have to say it really wasn't bad at all, granted I could see the backlash because it wasn't "real west coast"

I used to think it was just very average when I had it downloaded back in the day but now I would actually rank it higher than Doggfather (over-rated as fuck, only gets credit for the DPG features), Paid Da Cost To Be Da Boss (has some classics but inconsistent overall), and Malice N Wonderland (should have never even came out) lol maybe even Ego Trippin' too granted they are all very different musically

lol no way it's better than doggfather or even paid the cost