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Title: Just curious...what would you pick as the best street album of the past year???
Post by: JAG on April 09, 2007, 12:10:30 PM
What would you rate as the best street album (all orginal material) of the past year or so (both west coast and national)?  I think Joe Budden's "Mood Music II" was the best street album put out since 2006, but I think Ya Boy's "Chapter 1: The Rise" is the best street album put out on the west coast.  What do ya'll think?
Title: Re: Just curious...what would you pick as the best street album of the past year???
Post by: d-nice on April 09, 2007, 12:14:15 PM
Bishop Lamont- N*gger Noize
Title: Re: Just curious...what would you pick as the best street album of the past year
Post by: Lunatic on April 09, 2007, 12:49:26 PM
Bishop Lamont- N*gger Noize
Title: Re: Just curious...what would you pick as the best street album of the past year???
Post by: floatin_above_everything on April 09, 2007, 12:59:44 PM
Of '07? Ya Boy The Rise....Unless u count Return of the Mack as a street album.
Title: Re: Just curious...what would you pick as the best street album of the past year???
Post by: J$crILLa on April 09, 2007, 01:01:03 PM
dogg chit !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Just curious...what would you pick as the best street album of the past year???
Post by: Iliveinthefuture on April 09, 2007, 01:03:15 PM
dogg chit !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

this thread is about street albums not "albums" u dumb ass dogg pound cheerleader  8)
Title: Re: Just curious...what would you pick as the best street album of the past year???
Post by: floatin_above_everything on April 09, 2007, 01:04:31 PM
dogg chit !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

this thread is about street albums not "albums" u dumb ass dogg pound cheerleader  8)

OK, well then since it's become your thread, why don't you tell us the criteria of what separates and album from an street album.
Title: Re: Just curious...what would you pick as the best street album of the past year???
Post by: G. Sean Peters on April 09, 2007, 01:04:49 PM
Too $hort - Pimpin Inc.
Title: Re: Just curious...what would you pick as the best street album of the past year???
Post by: Iliveinthefuture on April 09, 2007, 01:10:04 PM
dogg chit !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

this thread is about street albums not "albums" u dumb ass dogg pound cheerleader  8)

OK, well then since it's become your thread, why don't you tell us the criteria of what separates and album from an street album.

unlike real "albums" you can't find "street albums" in every major store




























right mate? 8)


Title: Re: Just curious...what would you pick as the best street album of the past year???
Post by: floatin_above_everything on April 09, 2007, 01:13:40 PM
LOL, youre an idiot. Some "street" album do make the stores. JR Writer, Writer's Block 4 wasn't a street album? It's in every store out here. Even that Ya Boy is in some stores.
Title: Re: Just curious...what would you pick as the best street album of the past year???
Post by: Iliveinthefuture on April 09, 2007, 01:17:38 PM
LOL, youre an idiot. Some "street" album do make the stores. JR Writer, Writer's Block 4 wasn't a street album? It's in every store out here. Even that Ya Boy is in some stores.

but we can all agree that dogg chit isn't a street album

































right mate?  8)
Title: Re: Just curious...what would you pick as the best street album of the past year???
Post by: floatin_above_everything on April 09, 2007, 01:18:40 PM
LOL, youre an idiot. Some "street" album do make the stores. JR Writer, Writer's Block 4 wasn't a street album? It's in every store out here. Even that Ya Boy is in some stores.

but we can all agree that dogg chit isn't a street album

































right mate?  8)

It's got a street feel too it, and it's not on a major ( Koch is still an indie, and even then Koch didn't have much to do with this record ), so I'll call it a street album, mate.
Title: Re: Just curious...what would you pick as the best street album of the past year???
Post by: SmokinDro520 on April 09, 2007, 01:19:53 PM
Ya Boy Chapter 1:The Rise
Title: Re: Just curious...what would you pick as the best street album of the past year???
Post by: d-nice on April 09, 2007, 01:21:07 PM
To me the industry is going the street album route. It is a quick way for a artist to get original material out while his or her mainstream album is being worked on. Bishop Lamont is a perfect example. Why wait around for maybe years at a time before your album come out on Aftermath? He has fresh, new material that is LP worthy and quality and he is putting it out. It's creates a buzz or keeps the buzz a artist already has. It is just called a street album because many times it just comes out. No set street date, no promo, no nothing. It is just another means to getting your music out there.
Title: Re: Just curious...what would you pick as the best street album of the past year???
Post by: floatin_above_everything on April 09, 2007, 01:22:08 PM
To me the industry is going the street album route. It is a quick way for a artist to get original material out while his or her mainstream album is being worked on. Bishop Lamont is a perfect example. Why wait around for maybe years at a time before your album come out on Aftermath? He has fresh, new material that is LP worthy and quality and he is putting it out. It's creates a buzz or keeps the buzz a artist already has. It is just called a street album because many times it just comes out. No set street date, no promo, no nothing. It is just another means to getting your music out there.

Good explanation D-Nice + 1.
Title: Re: Just curious...what would you pick as the best street album of the past year???
Post by: G. Sean Peters on April 09, 2007, 01:24:06 PM
I think by "street albums" he also means mixtapes that are only sold on the streets and at independent record stores.

Something you won't find at best buy, sam goody, target, etc.
Title: Re: Just curious...what would you pick as the best street album of the past year???
Post by: floatin_above_everything on April 09, 2007, 01:25:33 PM
Nah, mixtape is a mixtape. An album , wheather street or major, should have original beats, like Ya Boy or JR.
Title: Re: Just curious...what would you pick as the best street album of the past year
Post by: Al Bundy on April 09, 2007, 01:28:53 PM
Mixtapes are finally doin it real big gettin sold on retail like JR Writer, Prodigy, Ya Boy, etc.
Title: Re: Just curious...what would you pick as the best street album of the past year???
Post by: d-nice on April 09, 2007, 01:32:56 PM
I think by "street albums" he also means mixtapes that are only sold on the streets and at independent record stores.

Something you won't find at best buy, sam goody, target, etc.

The key like Reefer said is original material. If you rapping over industry beats that is automatically a mixtape IMO. That is just some ready made popular shit to rap over, which the industry really does not mind because it helps to generate money. If you have original beats to rap over, why not just make it a album. You may not have the push of a album on a major, but it's all original material.
Title: Re: Just curious...what would you pick as the best street album of the past year
Post by: Lunatic on April 09, 2007, 01:38:35 PM
I think by "street albums" he also means mixtapes that are only sold on the streets and at independent record stores.

Something you won't find at best buy, sam goody, target, etc.

The key like Reefer said is original material. If you rapping over industry beats that is automatically a mixtape IMO. That is just some ready made popular shit to rap over, which the industry really does not mind because it helps to generate money. If you have original beats to rap over, why not just make it a album. You may not have the push of a album on a major, but it's all original material.

+1

Title: Re: Just curious...what would you pick as the best street album of the past year???
Post by: floatin_above_everything on April 09, 2007, 01:38:53 PM
I think by "street albums" he also means mixtapes that are only sold on the streets and at independent record stores.

Something you won't find at best buy, sam goody, target, etc.

The key like Reefer said is original material. If you rapping over industry beats that is automatically a mixtape IMO. That is just some ready made popular shit to rap over, which the industry really does not mind because it helps to generate money. If you have original beats to rap over, why not just make it a album. You may not have the push of a album on a major, but it's all original material.

Well said.
Title: Re: Just curious...what would you pick as the best street album of the past year???
Post by: d-nice on April 09, 2007, 01:43:45 PM
The flipside I am seeing from that though is the same like street singles. If the fans are not feeling the street single or album, it is a easy out for artists to say "Well that was not the official single, that's why". Most of the rappers I have seen do the street singles and albums have a CRAZY buzz around them and their projects so it usually works out.
Title: Re: Just curious...what would you pick as the best street album of the past year???
Post by: floatin_above_everything on April 09, 2007, 01:45:18 PM
The flipside I am seeing from that though is the same like street singles. If the fans are not feeling the street single or album, it is a easy out for artists to say "Well that was not the official single, that's why". Most of the rappers I have seen do the street singles and albums have a CRAZY buzz around them and their projects so it usually works out.

Well it didn't seem to do much for Prodigy, he had 3-4 videos and didn't do much. DPG had 4 street singles and sold less than they were expected to do even considering how bad sales are down.
Title: Re: Just curious...what would you pick as the best street album of the past year
Post by: Lunatic on April 09, 2007, 01:45:55 PM
The flipside I am seeing from that though is the same like street singles. If the fans are not feeling the street single or album, it is a easy out for artists to say "Well that was not the official single, that's why". Most of the rappers I have seen do the street singles and albums have a CRAZY buzz around them and their projects so it usually works out.

I've seen that happen COUNTLESS TIMES (especially recently)

snoop - vato
T.I. - front back
game - 1 blood
etc.

damn, d-nice talkin some real shit 2day ;D
Title: Re: Just curious...what would you pick as the best street album of the past year
Post by: Lunatic on April 09, 2007, 01:46:57 PM
The flipside I am seeing from that though is the same like street singles. If the fans are not feeling the street single or album, it is a easy out for artists to say "Well that was not the official single, that's why". Most of the rappers I have seen do the street singles and albums have a CRAZY buzz around them and their projects so it usually works out.

Well it didn't seem to do much for Prodigy, he had 3-4 videos and didn't do much. DPG had 4 street singles and sold less than they were expected to do even considering how bad sales are down.

I'm not to sure i'd even count them youtube videos as street singles, lol

I look at that as more of a gift from them to there fans. Not even street singles have videos that simple :D
Title: Re: Just curious...what would you pick as the best street album of the past year???
Post by: Tanjential on April 09, 2007, 01:47:19 PM
The flipside I am seeing from that though is the same like street singles. If the fans are not feeling the street single or album, it is a easy out for artists to say "Well that was not the official single, that's why". Most of the rappers I have seen do the street singles and albums have a CRAZY buzz around them and their projects so it usually works out.

so would you say an indie album counts as a street album? cause that's really what the clarification requests were about in the first place.

-T
Title: Re: Just curious...what would you pick as the best street album of the past year???
Post by: d-nice on April 09, 2007, 01:48:52 PM
The flipside I am seeing from that though is the same like street singles. If the fans are not feeling the street single or album, it is a easy out for artists to say "Well that was not the official single, that's why". Most of the rappers I have seen do the street singles and albums have a CRAZY buzz around them and their projects so it usually works out.

Well it didn't seem to do much for Prodigy, he had 3-4 videos and didn't do much. DPG had 4 street singles and sold less than they were expected to do even considering how bad sales are down.

Prodigy's actually did ok, better than I thought, and I thought for sure he would drop after the Blood Money album. But the 3 videos he dropped were nice songs so I put him in the same boat as Kurupt, fans still listen because they remember how dope they spit back in the day and they think they will still get a album like the 90's from them.
Title: Re: Just curious...what would you pick as the best street album of the past year
Post by: Lunatic on April 09, 2007, 01:49:26 PM
The flipside I am seeing from that though is the same like street singles. If the fans are not feeling the street single or album, it is a easy out for artists to say "Well that was not the official single, that's why". Most of the rappers I have seen do the street singles and albums have a CRAZY buzz around them and their projects so it usually works out.

so would you say an indie album counts as a street album? cause that's really what the clarification requests were about in the first place.

-T

that's not what I toke from it. I think d-nice is trying to say is something like if the fans aren't feeling the street single, the artist quickly says "well it don't matter, i just put it out for the sake of doing so, it's not the official single, i guarantee they'll enjoy the real single much more" etc.

Snoop did that with vato, t.i. with front back, game with 1 blood (i think) etc.
Title: Re: Just curious...what would you pick as the best street album of the past year???
Post by: floatin_above_everything on April 09, 2007, 01:51:35 PM
The flipside I am seeing from that though is the same like street singles. If the fans are not feeling the street single or album, it is a easy out for artists to say "Well that was not the official single, that's why". Most of the rappers I have seen do the street singles and albums have a CRAZY buzz around them and their projects so it usually works out.

Well it didn't seem to do much for Prodigy, he had 3-4 videos and didn't do much. DPG had 4 street singles and sold less than they were expected to do even considering how bad sales are down.

Prodigy's actually did ok, better than I thought, and I thought for sure he would drop after the Blood Money album. But the 3 videos he dropped were nice songs so I put him in the same boat as Kurupt, fans still listen because they remember how dope they spit back in the day and they think they will still get a album like the 90's from them.

Prod & Kurupt have both improved in the last year as well imo.
Title: Re: Just curious...what would you pick as the best street album of the past year???
Post by: floatin_above_everything on April 09, 2007, 01:52:53 PM
I'm gonna call it: A street album is an album with NO major label help at all, but mixtapes are mixtapes, not albums. I think that's a fair enough assesment.
Title: Re: Just curious...what would you pick as the best street album of the past year???
Post by: Tanjential on April 09, 2007, 01:53:56 PM
I'm not speaking on the singles thing at all. I'm asking about the original question reefer asked iliveinthefuture....is an independently released album a 'street' album?

-T
Title: Re: Just curious...what would you pick as the best street album of the past year???
Post by: d-nice on April 09, 2007, 01:54:11 PM
The flipside I am seeing from that though is the same like street singles. If the fans are not feeling the street single or album, it is a easy out for artists to say "Well that was not the official single, that's why". Most of the rappers I have seen do the street singles and albums have a CRAZY buzz around them and their projects so it usually works out.

so would you say an indie album counts as a street album? cause that's really what the clarification requests were about in the first place.

-T

Nah not really. Most street albums are not even approved by record labels. It is put out by the artists. If a label wanted the album so bad they would put it out. Rappers like Roccett and Bishop and Ya Boy are just doing it themselves as a warm up to the official album. You figure for Bishop Lamont he is at what 100k downloads? Lets say that is all new fans or people checking out his album. He just gained 100k more people interested in his project than before if he would have just waited for his Aftermath project. Money can't buy that if it ain't set up properly. He got it for free to the fans but it sets up his Aftermath project even better.
Title: Re: Just curious...what would you pick as the best street album of the past year
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on April 09, 2007, 01:54:47 PM
One Blood did do well on the charts.
Title: Re: Just curious...what would you pick as the best street album of the past year
Post by: Lunatic on April 09, 2007, 01:55:19 PM
The flipside I am seeing from that though is the same like street singles. If the fans are not feeling the street single or album, it is a easy out for artists to say "Well that was not the official single, that's why". Most of the rappers I have seen do the street singles and albums have a CRAZY buzz around them and their projects so it usually works out.

so would you say an indie album counts as a street album? cause that's really what the clarification requests were about in the first place.

-T

Nah not really. Most street albums are not even approved by record labels. It is put out by the artists. If a label wanted the album so bad they would put it out. Rappers like Roccett and Bishop and Ya Boy are just doing it themselves as a warm up to the official album. You figure for Bishop Lamont he is at what 100k downloads? Lets say that is all new fans or people checking out his album. He just gained 100k more people interested in his project than before if he would have just waited for his Aftermath project. Money can't buy that if it ain't set up properly. He got it for free to the fans but it sets up his Aftermath project even better.
Title: Re: Just curious...what would you pick as the best street album of the past year???
Post by: floatin_above_everything on April 09, 2007, 01:55:41 PM
Another example

Daz's Dogg Pound Gangsta LP=street album

So So Gangsta=major

Title: Re: Just curious...what would you pick as the best street album of the past year???
Post by: J$crILLa on April 09, 2007, 01:55:52 PM
LOL, youre an idiot. Some "street" album do make the stores. JR Writer, Writer's Block 4 wasn't a street album? It's in every store out here. Even that Ya Boy is in some stores.

damn i dont know what the dif is between street album i guess so fuck it then
Title: Re: Just curious...what would you pick as the best street album of the past year
Post by: Lunatic on April 09, 2007, 01:56:12 PM
One Blood did do well on the charts.

not like his prev. singles
Title: Re: Just curious...what would you pick as the best street album of the past year
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on April 09, 2007, 01:56:43 PM
Nah not really. Most street albums are not even approved by record labels. It is put out by the artists. If a label wanted the album so bad they would put it out. Rappers like Roccett and Bishop and Ya Boy are just doing it themselves as a warm up to the official album. You figure for Bishop Lamont he is at what 100k downloads? Lets say that is all new fans or people checking out his album. He just gained 100k more people interested in his project than before if he would have just waited for his Aftermath project. Money can't buy that if it ain't set up properly. He got it for free to the fans but it sets up his Aftermath project even better.
Bishop Lamont did NOT gain 100K fans from nigger noize. Most the people were probably his fans and Aftermath groupies downloadin it.
Title: Re: Just curious...what would you pick as the best street album of the past year
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on April 09, 2007, 01:57:18 PM
One Blood did do well on the charts.

not like his prev. singles
None of his new ones did.
Title: Re: Just curious...what would you pick as the best street album of the past year
Post by: Lunatic on April 09, 2007, 01:58:29 PM
One Blood did do well on the charts.

not like his prev. singles
None of his new ones did.

his "new 1s" didn't come b4 1 blood
Title: Re: Just curious...what would you pick as the best street album of the past year???
Post by: Tanjential on April 09, 2007, 01:59:15 PM
Another example

Daz's Dogg Pound Gangsta LP=street album

So So Gangsta=major



if we're going off of d-nice's definition...DPG LP would not be because it's an indie still.

-T
Title: Re: Just curious...what would you pick as the best street album of the past year
Post by: d-nice on April 09, 2007, 02:01:12 PM
Nah not really. Most street albums are not even approved by record labels. It is put out by the artists. If a label wanted the album so bad they would put it out. Rappers like Roccett and Bishop and Ya Boy are just doing it themselves as a warm up to the official album. You figure for Bishop Lamont he is at what 100k downloads? Lets say that is all new fans or people checking out his album. He just gained 100k more people interested in his project than before if he would have just waited for his Aftermath project. Money can't buy that if it ain't set up properly. He got it for free to the fans but it sets up his Aftermath project even better.
Bishop Lamont did NOT gain 100K fans from nigger noize. Most the people were probably his fans and Aftermath groupies downloadin it.

I said lets say. I really do not believe everyone liked the album. I was speaking on promotional purposes.
Title: Re: Just curious...what would you pick as the best street album of the past year
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on April 09, 2007, 02:01:58 PM
One Blood did do well on the charts.

not like his prev. singles
None of his new ones did.

his "new 1s" didn't come b4 1 blood
Well you justification was that since One Blood didn't do as good as his old singles, then they are street singles. But One Blood, Wouldn't Get Far, and Let's Ride didn't do as good as How We Do or Hate It or Love It. WGF didn't do as well as Dreams either. Are they all street singles?
Title: Re: Just curious...what would you pick as the best street album of the past year
Post by: Lunatic on April 09, 2007, 02:04:12 PM
One Blood did do well on the charts.

not like his prev. singles
None of his new ones did.

his "new 1s" didn't come b4 1 blood
Well you justification was that since One Blood didn't do as good as his old singles, then they are street singles. But One Blood, Wouldn't Get Far, and Let's Ride didn't do as good as How We Do or Hate It or Love It. WGF didn't do as well as Dreams either. Are they all street singles?

no, I didn't say it was a street single. I said that when a single doesn't do good, an artist seems to jump to that "its a street single"
Title: Re: Just curious...what would you pick as the best street album of the past year???
Post by: d-nice on April 09, 2007, 02:06:43 PM
Another example

Daz's Dogg Pound Gangsta LP=street album

So So Gangsta=major



See he has his own label and put money into it. If he were to go to Nima and say "Hey drop this album on the site for me", I would consider that more of a street album. Or having DJ Skee help him put it out.
Title: Re: Just curious...what would you pick as the best street album of the past year???
Post by: d-nice on April 09, 2007, 02:13:36 PM
Actually you do put money into a street album but like I said if you have a label or are on a major and you are either posting it on a website or funding it yourself, it is more of a street album. If the label approves the material, you defeat the whole purpose of putting out the album yourself unless you think the label won't promote it well or is just not feeling the material that is submitted. Even in that case you are taking the album out "to the streets" and selling it yourself. It is hard to give examples because alot of artists are just now doing it. I used to work in the music industry at FYE/Wherhouse and I went to a couple music seminars they had so I seen a little bit of how the music industry works.
Title: Re: Just curious...what would you pick as the best street album of the past year???
Post by: floatin_above_everything on April 09, 2007, 02:23:02 PM
Another example

Daz's Dogg Pound Gangsta LP=street album

So So Gangsta=major



See he has his own label and put money into it. If he were to go to Nima and say "Hey drop this album on the site for me", I would consider that more of a street album. Or having DJ Skee help him put it out.

Alright so, any thing that comes out on Gangsta Advisory, or maybe something that comes out on Diplomat records ( without Koch ), would NOT be a street album? If a rapper puts out an album independently, that doesn't constitute as a street album? I mean, we could put every Bay album in that category if that's the case.
Title: Re: Just curious...what would you pick as the best street album of the past year???
Post by: d-nice on April 09, 2007, 02:32:37 PM
Another example

Daz's Dogg Pound Gangsta LP=street album

So So Gangsta=major



See he has his own label and put money into it. If he were to go to Nima and say "Hey drop this album on the site for me", I would consider that more of a street album. Or having DJ Skee help him put it out.

Alright so, any thing that comes out on Gangsta Advisory, or maybe something that comes out on Diplomat records ( without Koch ), would NOT be a street album? If a rapper puts out an album independently, that doesn't constitute as a street album? I mean, we could put every Bay album in that category if that's the case.

I guess to me if you are going to take the time to have your own label and set it up then it is more official than just putting a record out. If you are still having a major distributor put the records out then that is more official. Koch to me is a major distributor. Artists want the freedom to decide what kind of music they want to put out when they want to it. But they still want the album to be distributed to all the major markets. I guess if you are on independent label yourself, you have the freedom to put out whatever you want anyway. It fits more artists on majors. You said the Bay, Mistah Fab is putting a street album out before his official album on Atlantic.
Title: Re: Just curious...what would you pick as the best street album of the past year???
Post by: floatin_above_everything on April 09, 2007, 02:34:02 PM
Well I meant, no Bay artists ( 40, Short, and alledgedly Mista Fab ) are on majors. Most have there own labels, so would you consider all Bay albums as street or no?
Title: Re: Just curious...what would you pick as the best street album of the past year???
Post by: Tanjential on April 09, 2007, 02:36:25 PM
Another example

Daz's Dogg Pound Gangsta LP=street album

So So Gangsta=major



See he has his own label and put money into it. If he were to go to Nima and say "Hey drop this album on the site for me", I would consider that more of a street album. Or having DJ Skee help him put it out.

Alright so, any thing that comes out on Gangsta Advisory, or maybe something that comes out on Diplomat records ( without Koch ), would NOT be a street album? If a rapper puts out an album independently, that doesn't constitute as a street album? I mean, we could put every Bay album in that category if that's the case.

I guess to me if you are going to take the time to have your own label and set it up then it is more official than just putting a record out. If you are still having a major distributor put the records out then that is more official. Koch to me is a major distributor. Artists want the freedom to decide what kind of music they want to put out when they want to it. But they still want the album to be distributed to all the major markets. I guess if you are on independent label yourself, you have the freedom to put out whatever you want anyway. It fits more artists on majors. You said the Bay, Mistah Fab is putting a street album out before his official album on Atlantic.

Uh...I'm pretty sure Mistah FAB is putting out an indepent record first, not a 'street' album. I believe he's putting out a Thizz(which is indie) a record before the Universal one.

-T
Title: Re: Just curious...what would you pick as the best street album of the past year???
Post by: d-nice on April 09, 2007, 02:40:07 PM
Well I meant, no Bay artists ( 40, Short, and alledgedly Mista Fab ) are on majors. Most have there own labels, so would you consider all Bay albums as street or no?

No because they set up their own labels or albums on their own, so those are official albums for them because you are putting it out indie. If the indie artists do not want to make money off the album and they give it away (N*gger Noize 4 example) that is a street album to me for a indie artist. Artists on majors I think it is a way to put out material maybe the label does not deem suitable for their album and still make money/give it away to fans.
Title: Re: Just curious...what would you pick as the best street album of the past year???
Post by: d-nice on April 09, 2007, 02:41:54 PM
Another example

Daz's Dogg Pound Gangsta LP=street album

So So Gangsta=major



See he has his own label and put money into it. If he were to go to Nima and say "Hey drop this album on the site for me", I would consider that more of a street album. Or having DJ Skee help him put it out.

Alright so, any thing that comes out on Gangsta Advisory, or maybe something that comes out on Diplomat records ( without Koch ), would NOT be a street album? If a rapper puts out an album independently, that doesn't constitute as a street album? I mean, we could put every Bay album in that category if that's the case.

I guess to me if you are going to take the time to have your own label and set it up then it is more official than just putting a record out. If you are still having a major distributor put the records out then that is more official. Koch to me is a major distributor. Artists want the freedom to decide what kind of music they want to put out when they want to it. But they still want the album to be distributed to all the major markets. I guess if you are on independent label yourself, you have the freedom to put out whatever you want anyway. It fits more artists on majors. You said the Bay, Mistah Fab is putting a street album out before his official album on Atlantic.

Uh...I'm pretty sure Mistah FAB is putting out an indepent record first, not a 'street' album. I believe he's putting out a Thizz(which is indie) a record before the Universal one.

-T

You're right. I am reading the interview right now. That would be a official album, just indie.
Title: Re: Just curious...what would you pick as the best street album of the past year
Post by: 4108 on April 09, 2007, 02:44:57 PM
Same Day Different Shit
Title: Re: Just curious...what would you pick as the best street album of the past year???
Post by: floatin_above_everything on April 09, 2007, 02:47:05 PM
But Ya Boy's Chapter 1 had the Precise music group logo on the back of the CD. I'm fucking confused so that will lead me to this:

There is NO such thing as a "street" album, it's just a term used by rappers to promote an indy album, usually if they are going to release an album on a major in the next coming months. There is no category on Billboard for street album, I think if Ya Boy ( I'm using him, since The Rise seems to be the one that most people picked ), had sold 20-30K on this album, he would have charted on the independant charts.

I think the line between "street" and "indy" is blurred to much to deciper between the 2. 2 out of the 3 pages in this topic don't have anything to do with the best street/indy album of 07, it's too hard of an argument.
Title: Re: Just curious...what would you pick as the best street album of the past year???
Post by: d-nice on April 09, 2007, 02:52:29 PM
But Ya Boy's Chapter 1 had the Precise music group logo on the back of the CD. I'm fucking confused so that will lead me to this:

There is NO such thing as a "street" album, it's just a term used by rappers to promote an indy album, usually if they are going to release an album on a major in the next coming months. There is no category on Billboard for street album, I think if Ya Boy ( I'm using him, since The Rise seems to be the one that most people picked ), had sold 20-30K on this album, he would have charted on the independant charts.

I think the line between "street" and "indy" is blurred to much to deciper between the 2. 2 out of the 3 pages in this topic don't have anything to do with the best street/indy album of 07, it's too hard of an argument.

Yeah I am getting a headache trying to figure it out myself. LOL! O guess if they say it is then it is, fuck it. I would consider N*gger Noize a street album just being the only way you can get it is on music sites. Same with Snoop's Unrelased Heatrocks. You can't buy it in stores, you can only buy it on his myspace. But, to say on topic  ;D, I like Bishop and Topic's albums and Ya Boy's. Crooked I's from last year also still gets crazy spins from me.
Title: Re: Just curious...what would you pick as the best street album of the past year
Post by: Tanjential on April 09, 2007, 03:08:36 PM
Same Day Different Shit

indie, not street.

But Ya Boy's Chapter 1 had the Precise music group logo on the back of the CD. I'm fucking confused so that will lead me to this:

There is NO such thing as a "street" album, it's just a term used by rappers to promote an indy album, usually if they are going to release an album on a major in the next coming months. There is no category on Billboard for street album, I think if Ya Boy ( I'm using him, since The Rise seems to be the one that most people picked ), had sold 20-30K on this album, he would have charted on the independant charts.

I think the line between "street" and "indy" is blurred to much to deciper between the 2. 2 out of the 3 pages in this topic don't have anything to do with the best street/indy album of 07, it's too hard of an argument.

Yeah I am getting a headache trying to figure it out myself. LOL! O guess if they say it is then it is, fuck it. I would consider N*gger Noize a street album just being the only way you can get it is on music sites. Same with Snoop's Unrelased Heatrocks. You can't buy it in stores, you can only buy it on his myspace. But, to say on topic  ;D, I like Bishop and Topic's albums and Ya Boy's. Crooked I's from last year also still gets crazy spins from me.

I think i got it:

a mixtape is a mix of original songs and sampled music, often has DJ drops.

a street album is a mixtape with all originally produced music/songs (nigger noise)

anything else is an official album, even online available stuff like hittman's album and heat rocks are albums being sold by independent companies...they're still albums.

-T
Title: Re: Just curious...what would you pick as the best street album of the past year
Post by: d-nice on April 09, 2007, 03:13:09 PM
Same Day Different Shit

indie, not street.

But Ya Boy's Chapter 1 had the Precise music group logo on the back of the CD. I'm fucking confused so that will lead me to this:

There is NO such thing as a "street" album, it's just a term used by rappers to promote an indy album, usually if they are going to release an album on a major in the next coming months. There is no category on Billboard for street album, I think if Ya Boy ( I'm using him, since The Rise seems to be the one that most people picked ), had sold 20-30K on this album, he would have charted on the independant charts.

I think the line between "street" and "indy" is blurred to much to deciper between the 2. 2 out of the 3 pages in this topic don't have anything to do with the best street/indy album of 07, it's too hard of an argument.

Yeah I am getting a headache trying to figure it out myself. LOL! O guess if they say it is then it is, fuck it. I would consider N*gger Noize a street album just being the only way you can get it is on music sites. Same with Snoop's Unrelased Heatrocks. You can't buy it in stores, you can only buy it on his myspace. But, to say on topic  ;D, I like Bishop and Topic's albums and Ya Boy's. Crooked I's from last year also still gets crazy spins from me.

I think i got it:

a mixtape is a mix of original songs and sampled music, often has DJ drops.

a street album is a mixtape with all originally produced music/songs (nigger noise)

anything else is an official album, even online available stuff like hittman's album and heat rocks are albums being sold by independent companies...they're still albums.

-T

Sounds good to me. It's funny because DJ Crazy Toones does not even call most of the mixtapes out mix tapes. He said where is the mixing and the scratching at? But Tanj the way you broke it down makes sense. If a album has those annoying DJ drops on it, but still original material, it's a street album.
Title: Re: Just curious...what would you pick as the best street album of the past year???
Post by: floatin_above_everything on April 09, 2007, 03:14:29 PM
How can it be a mixtape if there's only original beats/lyrics? Why would that not be an album too?
Title: Re: Just curious...what would you pick as the best street album of the past year???
Post by: Tanjential on April 09, 2007, 03:19:29 PM
How can it be a mixtape if there's only original beats/lyrics? Why would that not be an album too?

DJ drops, free release etc. Nigger noise is the perfect example.

-T
Title: Re: Just curious...what would you pick as the best street album of the past year???
Post by: floatin_above_everything on April 09, 2007, 03:38:20 PM
How can it be a mixtape if there's only original beats/lyrics? Why would that not be an album too?

DJ drops, free release etc. Nigger noise is the perfect example.

-T

I c. Haven't heard the Bishop CD.
Title: Re: Just curious...what would you pick as the best street album of the past year???
Post by: Tanjential on April 09, 2007, 03:43:14 PM
How can it be a mixtape if there's only original beats/lyrics? Why would that not be an album too?

DJ drops, free release etc. Nigger noise is the perfect example.

-T

I c. Haven't heard the Bishop CD.

it's definitely worth a listen.

-T
Title: Re: Just curious...what would you pick as the best street album of the past year???
Post by: floatin_above_everything on April 09, 2007, 03:46:05 PM
How can it be a mixtape if there's only original beats/lyrics? Why would that not be an album too?

DJ drops, free release etc. Nigger noise is the perfect example.

-T

Up that if u can, I like Bishop's verse on Guerilla Pimpin, Barbershop and that last song off Warren's album.

I c. Haven't heard the Bishop CD.

it's definitely worth a listen.

-T
Title: Re: Just curious...what would you pick as the best street album of the past year???
Post by: Tanjential on April 09, 2007, 03:47:32 PM
How can it be a mixtape if there's only original beats/lyrics? Why would that not be an album too?

DJ drops, free release etc. Nigger noise is the perfect example.

-T

Up that if u can, I like Bishop's verse on Guerilla Pimpin, Barbershop and that last song off Warren's album.

I c. Haven't heard the Bishop CD.

it's definitely worth a listen.

-T

i'm sure it's still available on the dubcnn main site

-T
Title: Re: Just curious...what would you pick as the best street album of the past year???
Post by: floatin_above_everything on April 09, 2007, 03:51:17 PM
Found it on albumbase, looks like another DJ Skee tape.
Title: Re: Just curious...what would you pick as the best street album of the past year???
Post by: Tanjential on April 09, 2007, 03:53:23 PM
Found it on albumbase, looks like another DJ Skee tape.

i suppose it is, but there's some dope shit...in all honesty...there's a doper fan-made bishop mixtape that someone on this board hooked me up with that was called "Bishop Lamont-The Introduction" and it has alot of the songs from NNOISE with no drops and some other dope songs that aren't on nigger noise, and it feels even more like an album than nnoise to me, i'd suggest looking for that.

-T
Title: Re: Just curious...what would you pick as the best street album of the past year???
Post by: floatin_above_everything on April 09, 2007, 03:55:08 PM
Found it on albumbase, looks like another DJ Skee tape.

i suppose it is, but there's some dope shit...in all honesty...there's a doper fan-made bishop mixtape that someone on this board hooked me up with that was called "Bishop Lamont-The Introduction" and it has alot of the songs from NNOISE with no drops and some other dope songs that aren't on nigger noise, and it feels even more like an album than nnoise to me, i'd suggest looking for that.

-T

I might check that, I'm not a fan of fan-made mixtapes unless I'm the one making them though. Nigger Noize is being d/l as we speak.
Title: Re: Just curious...what would you pick as the best street album of the past year???
Post by: Tanjential on April 09, 2007, 03:57:47 PM
Found it on albumbase, looks like another DJ Skee tape.

i suppose it is, but there's some dope shit...in all honesty...there's a doper fan-made bishop mixtape that someone on this board hooked me up with that was called "Bishop Lamont-The Introduction" and it has alot of the songs from NNOISE with no drops and some other dope songs that aren't on nigger noise, and it feels even more like an album than nnoise to me, i'd suggest looking for that.

-T

I might check that, I'm not a fan of fan-made mixtapes unless I'm the one making them though. Nigger Noize is being d/l as we speak.

well if you really like it and wanna hear a bunch of the songs with no skee screams, get that introduction mixtape. there are no dj drops at all, all songs are full length and cdq and all original music.

-T
Title: Re: Just curious...what would you pick as the best street album of the past year???
Post by: West Coast Veteran on April 09, 2007, 04:07:43 PM
nigga noize
Title: Re: Just curious...what would you pick as the best street album of the past year???
Post by: NiCc_FrUm_ThA_nO on April 09, 2007, 04:23:32 PM
Mood Muzik 2