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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: Pillow on June 30, 2002, 08:39:19 PM
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man i follow baseball like mad crazy. i got angel season tix and go to about 30 dodger games. there has been serious ass werd going around that the players might strike. if this happend i will be so fucking PISSED along with the rest of baseball fans. this is fucking bullshit, every1 makes enough money to be happy, so just play the fucking game...fucking greedy ass motha fuckers out there. if baseball strikes it will be the end of baseball for EVER more then likley, and not to add i will go into a deep state of depression ova that shit. and.......its fucked up cause all the teams that are doing so weel as the angels, dodgers, expoes, twins, and the rest of the teams that make it every year. well any way, what do u all think..will it actualy happen???????
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I tend to think they will. I personally think Conseco, and company coming out with all these steroid accusations right around the time of a strike being mentioned is a set up. I'd guess MLB is paying Jose to say this shit, so that if the league strikes, It discredits a large majority of the atheletes. I think if they do strike again, it'll be alot harder to bounce back like they did the first time. Peeps like me who are casual fans won't have any desire to watch the divas.
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man i hope not, thats bs if they do. but if so they are, how come they aint saying shit about it on ESPN?
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best move baseball can do is play out tha rest of tha season than go on strike. Do tha players realize that if they strike there is a very strong possibility major league baseball will die. There is no cal ripken 2 save baseball like he did in 95 wit break gherings record. Baseball is in some serious shit. Bud selig said that there r 6-8 teams that wont be able to operate in 3 years if baseball keeps goin this way. They need contraction, bye bye tampa bay an montreal. They desperatly need to get rid of tampa bay. They have no stars, even there farm system is in shambles. Shame about montreal, there finally gettin a good year 2gether but only showin it off to 500 people a NIGHT. remember 94 when baseball went on strike they had tha best record in tha bigs but could baRELy sell out half tha stadium. Some1 needs to kill donald fehr tha players rep. This guy is a cancer, a scumbag an i'll be glad when he dies. We need a commish wit some balls. They need a maximum an minimum salery cap. Drug testing. Baseball is such serious shit right now it aint even funny. I seriously think this could be tha end
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i dont think the strike will happen now that i think about it, america needs baseball right now due to the war, ppl need baseball to be able to kick back and watch there team and not have to think about nothing else, baseball is to great of a team to let this bull shit happen to it. selig or some 1 in baseball will save it. and another thing is they havent said shit about it on ESPN
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They desperatly need to get rid of tampa bay.
Are they gonna get rid of them or are you just speculating?
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it might happen next season. Its a shame that people dont care about this sport cuz its "slow". Those same people like football, which IMO is even slower.
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Are they gonna get rid of them or are you just speculating?
there one of tha teams that r up for contraction. But it will never having b/c of tha players union. But tampa bay is truly a joke of a team
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i dont think the strike will happen now that i think about it, america needs baseball right now due to the war, ppl need baseball to be able to kick back and watch there team and not have to think about nothing else, baseball is to great of a team to let this bull shit happen to it. selig or some 1 in baseball will save it. and another thing is they havent said shit about it on ESPN
baseball players could give 2 fucks that there is a war going on right now. Donald fehr could not give fucks, they want there money an they want it now. Bud selig wont save baseball b/c he is a pussy. He is part to blame for where baseball is now. When things started to go bad he didnt do shit now look at it, its 2 late. A strike might be tha best thing possible if everything gets straightened out which i dont think it will. I have a question. If they go on strike what happenes to tha minor leagues do they keep playing or do they strike 2
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it might happen next season. Its a shame that people dont care about this sport cuz its "slow". Those same people like football, which IMO is even slower.
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Baseball is dead.....
The average or casual fan can give 2 fuck's about the sport.
Watching sport's center & Baseball tonight is a joke......when John Doe has 4o homer's by the all-star break....most people are like who the fuck is that!!!!!
Baseball in the 80's & early 90's was a sport, everyone knew their team had their favorite player's ect...
In the millenium, you can't get attached to a "franchise" player cause the word loyalty has no meaning anymore....let's face it there is only one "Kirby Pucket".
Baseball has been replaced by Basketball as the U.S. pastime.
Baseball will never regain it's spot.
Baseball is like a cancer in sport's right now....it's dying slow.
The recent string of Records being broken were all a set-up to regain fan's to make them forget how much the sport has lost.....it worked for a while, but now all the dirt is coming out from under the rug......(Steriods)...(Juiced ball's) ect..
The skill's are there but the love for the game is gone.
it's no longer the game with bigger than life heroes, more like bigger than life ego's IMO.
Maybe the plug need's to be pulled from the season.....It's fucked 2, cause the two team's I follow are having stellar season's..(Dodger's & Angels).....but baseball might need to be taken off life support in order to see if it can survive without the casual fan.
In my opinion....the answer is no. (rating's wise)
But the sport will survive, it always has, and it always will.
It just will never have the following it used to have when it was just a game.
I love Baseball, just in the last couple of seasons me & Baseball have been like a divorced couple....I hate the hoe for the stupid shitt she has put our relationship though.
And sometimes I wish I can order a hitt out on the bitch.....lol
And the fan's have spoken.....2002 the hitt has been made.
IMO
Peace
Hatesrats 2oo2
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well i think baseball is FAR from dead man, that TV rating are still up and last years world series got more ratings then any other WS EVER televised. and attendence has stayed firm with the dodgers, they are still averging the same fan base as last year, and the angels are up. so baseball is still loved by lots of ppl, it still rules over basketball. look at the angels vs dodgers this year, the angels broke a attendece rec in a 3 day span, they got more the 130,00 in the 3 day series, the fans want baseball and need baseball, some 1 will save baseball, i dont know who, but some 1 will.....
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if baseball does go on strike how long do u think it would last 4
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we need a 30 game winner.....
we need a 50/50 Batter.
we need another guy that can hit .400..
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30 game winner: ISHII
50/50 batter: not sure
.400 hitter: ICHIRO
and i heard some good news on ESPN, peter gammons said it was likley for them NOT to strike ;D
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30 game winner: ISHII
50/50 batter: not sure
.400 hitter: ICHIRO
and i heard some good news on ESPN, peter gammons said it was likley for them NOT to strike ;D
50/50- SOrriano next year, IM POSSITIVE
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if baseball dont strike, than what happens to all tha shit that is wrong wit baseball. I think they will play tha season out but than go on strike. thats tha best possible scenario
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na, the best possible senerio is that no strike at all and baseball fixes all its bullshit
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na, the best possible senerio is that no strike at all and baseball fixes all its bullshit
ok, now its time to come back 2 reality
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give baseball time, it will fix all its BS sooner or later
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give me ur thoughts on this.........
Members of the Major League Baseball Players Association did not vote to set a strike date in a meeting of the executive board at a Chicago airport hotel Monday.
Instead, the union sent its player representatives out to ask their teammates if they would authorize the board to set a date for such a contingency, said Don Fehr, the executive director of the union.
By the end of July, Fehr will have visited each of the teams to brief them on the status of contract negotiations as he gets a consensus from the players on when and if to strike this season. He has addressed seven of the 30 teams already in the past few weeks.
"From the player's point of view, a strike is a last resort," Fehr said Monday after the five-hour session. "It would not be entered into unless the players feel they have no other viable option. It is our hope over the next few weeks that we will enter some serious and substantive discussions with the owners. That's the goal. We're going to do everything we can to make sure that goal is realized."
Word of the decision not to yet set a strike date circulated as players began to leave the all-afternoon session.
In Milwaukee, where All-Star festivities are under way in preparation for Tuesday's annual midsummer game, the decision to stop short of setting a strike date met with some anticipation.
"We're delighted that they didn't set a strike date," said Rob Manfred, MLB's vice president of labor relations and human resources. "We look forward to getting back to the table and negotiating."
Eight collective bargaining sessions are scheduled for this month with the next one slated for Thursday in New York.
What the players heard from their union leadership was enough to keep the talks as a focal point.
In 1994, nearly a month before the players walked out, they authorized the board to set a strike date at a pre-All-Star Game meeting in Pittsburgh. Two weeks later, the board, which is made up of player representatives from each team and eight at-large members, designated Aug. 12. The sport was then shutdown for the season when the players went on strike.
But the players in attendance Monday refrained from exercising that option.
"We formulated some ideas and opinions," said Michael Barrett, the player representative for the Montreal Expos. "The last thing we want to do is set a strike date. It's a last resort. But we are prepared to do it just in case."
Tony Clark, the Boston Red Sox's player rep, said Monday's session was by and large informational. He said not enough of that information has been delivered yet to baseball's 750 players on Major League rosters. Thus, it's too soon to set a strike date.
"We got a chance to talk over all the issues," Clark said. "Our focus is still the same - to go back to the table and get a deal done in the best interest of everyone involved."
The union meeting came with the backdrop of slow progress in collective bargaining sessions.
The previous basic agreement expired this past November and the two sides have been operating under its auspices since then.
In eight collective bargaining sessions since June 1, the two sides have resolved or tentatively resolved two packages of non-economic issues. The owners have also made some adjustments to their initial proposals on the core issues of increased revenue sharing and a reinstitution of the luxury tax. The players have not responded.
What the owners have proposed is to increase the percentage of local revenue each team would share, from 20 percent to 50 percent, and a 50 percent tax on the portions of payrolls above $98 million, which combined would help slow the increase in salaries. Player salaries have soared from an average of $51,500 in 1976 to $2.38 million this year.
Fehr said Monday that there will be an increase of sharing from the current 20 percent of local revenue, but that the union was fundamentally against the luxury tax.
"The luxury tax is a significant penalty for hiring someone," Fehr said.
In its previous form, the luxury tax was not higher than 35 percent and the threshold for the tax was not higher than $58.9 million per team.
Bob DuPuy, MLB's president and chief operating officer, said that at its previous rate, the combination of revenue sharing and the luxury tax was not enough to abate the growth of salaries.
DuPuy agreed that MLB would eventually come to terms with the union on sharing of local revenues.
"It just depends on the percentage of luxury tax that the owners are going to be able to live with," he said.
Denny Hocking, the Minnesota Twins player rep, said he was still optimistic that all these issues could be resolved at the bargaining table.
"We believe we can get something done before it gets down to setting a date," Hocking said.
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tha players wont strike, i think they know better. but tha issue wont be resolved. i think tha owners will lock out tha players next year. There is no way baseball can completely work out all there problems if there is no work stopage. They may come up wit a temporary solution but in tha long run it will kill baseball. remember tha strike of 94. You know how they resolved that, they got tired of tha bull shit an both sides jus agreed to use tha same contract they had been previously using. Now when that happened everything seemed fine an dandy. year an a half strike was over, ripken is on tha verge of breaking tha record. Things got worse but than came mac an sosa. so that diverted tha fans attention from tha BS. Now things have gotten much worse an there is nutin to save it cept a stopage. If there is no stopage ther will be a temporary solution an things will jus get worse untill major league baseball is dead. Tha 1st thing baseball needs to do is get rid of bud selig. He is an extremely shady person. major league baseball owes tha expos. why do u think tha pos r suddenly make all these big trades. so it raises up tha price of tha franchise so when some1 buys tha expos major league baseball is makin more money. an also, how tha fuck do tha yankees get all tha good players an give up nutin in return. why would tha tigers give up a good youg pitcher makin nutin at all still has a few years left on his contract. I honestly believe there is a lot of bull shit goin on in baseball an no1 has no clue of what so ever an its only a matter of time b4 baseball is exposed. c'mon how could selig tell congress baseball lost money than i think it was forbes that said they made money. Baseball needs a work stopage more than anything b/c there is so much fucked up shit goin on that no fan knows of. Now your goin say tom stop smokin that crack but when we find out tha real remember who said it
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well if they do strike, which i doubt they will, i hope its after this season, because my to teams are doing to fucking good to have a stopage
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well if they do strike, which i doubt they will, i hope its after this season, because my to teams are doing to fucking good to have a stopage
if tha players know whats good 4 them there atleast finish off this season
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well i am watching ESPN and peter gammons says the strtike will not occur but.....tim cerchin (or however u spell his last name) said it is likley to happen, i dont know who to fucking belive.......
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well i am watching ESPN and peter gammons says the strtike will not occur but.....tim cerchin (or however u spell his last name) said it is likley to happen, i dont know who to fucking belive.......
gammons is always wrong
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Im 95% sure the strike will happen now. is just a matter of when, right before the playoffs? one month before the playoffs?
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i hope they do, the markett is so unfair....of course the yankees will be close to winning every year...with its payroll double everyone elses....baseball is a joke
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i hope they do, the markett is so unfair....of course the yankees will be close to winning every year...with its payroll double everyone elses....baseball is a joke
tha skankees payroll is 140 million
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any1 who HOPES they do is a joke, it will kill baseball for at least 4 years
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well something has to change...every other sport has some kinda salary cap....why not baseball....so the yankees can be in the world series every year....how can one team spend 140 mil and other teams spend less than 50 mil can there be a somewhat close competive field....BASEBALL IS A JOKE...and i hope and will be happy when they go on strike...if the players cant agree to a some kind of cap....
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any1 who HOPES they do is a joke, it will kill baseball for at least 4 years
it wont be 4 years, 2 at tha most. But if baseball is non existant for 2 years it would be worth than rather keep tha status quo an have mlb dead in 10 years
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^^ no dude, if they go on stike they wil play next year, i mean it will kill baseball as far as 4 years due to fan base