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Title: biting overseer's post... do you europeans think all americans.......
Post by: pappy on August 22, 2004, 11:29:22 PM
are gun toting, gang bangin, mob boss, drug dealin criminals.  like just on this board for instance.  When someone brings up crime stats in america, i get the vibe they think everyone in america is involved in some illegal act.  When they talk about rappers they say stuff like he is just talking about daily events in his neighborhoods.  And its like that shit dont happen every minute.  Like i saw someone say loyd banks album is just telling stories about his neighborhood jamaica queens.  an its like do you realize how big jamaica is.  Do you realize you have rich neighborhoods in jamaica an slums.  And in the slums it aint raining bullets like rappers say it is.  I dunno i got a lot to say but i cant put it into words lol.  Jus like seer asked do us americans think europe is some giant 3rd world country.  Do you europeans think america is some giant gang territory where everyone owns a gun or sells drugs. 
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Post by: mauzip on August 22, 2004, 11:34:38 PM
No, but I think I can say out of experience Europeans have a better picture of the USA than Americans have of Europe.
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Post by: hector on August 23, 2004, 12:03:45 AM
hmmm, well I'm actually from America, and I thought that was true.
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Post by: Jome on August 23, 2004, 12:38:07 AM
You just get the general impression that near all Americans have weapons, and it's 100 times easier to purchase weapons there, like e.g. selling it in malls and shit, wether you're mentally fit to own a gun or not.

E.g. on the Munch "Scream & Madonna" theft today, 2 of the witnesses was from America, this is what they told press:

50-60 year old dude:
"This guy was waving around with a, well you know I'm from Texas so I know my guns hehe, I think a .37 caliber or .40"

Woman:
"The man looked crazy and confused, he pointed around with a, I think it was a 40 caliber, it's actually the first time I seen a gun in Norway"

Owning a weapon here in Norway, usually means 3 things:
1. You're a hunter or in a shooting club.
2. You're a policeman or in the military
3. You're a criminal

We don't keep guns for security reasons over here, it's not needed at all.  :)
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Post by: Don Seer on August 23, 2004, 03:28:24 AM

nah we think americans are  fat red neck lazy mcdonalds eating slobs..

coz we get shown that jerry springer and oprah..


either that or they're ultra nice white people.. like on friends, will and grace. etc...



lol.. know its not true.. but its how it looks!



do they show any english soaps in america?
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Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on August 23, 2004, 03:49:31 AM
Every state in America is completely different.
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Post by: 7even on August 23, 2004, 06:27:43 AM
yes  I do think americans own WAY too many guns. from crackers in ohio to niggaz in compton.. everybody. too many guns.
thing is.. if someone is drunk or an asshole or whatever in other countries, there are fistfights in which the fighters are pulled away from each other in a second.
but, if everybody owns 6 guns, the fights are "different"... I can tell from experience that if certain ppl who attacked someone when I was around had guns, I  might be dead by now lol. but since this isnt the case at all, it's all good.
guns are a true problem in the US, yes, I think that.
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Post by: Don Seer on August 23, 2004, 06:35:14 AM
Every state in America is completely different.

just like every state, in every country in europe..

thats a lotta difference..
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Post by: Sikx on August 23, 2004, 07:03:03 AM
No, but I think I can say out of experience Europeans have a better picture of the USA than Americans have of Europe.
yeah ::) some ppl honestly think polar bears walks in streets of Finland, and thats retarded..

and no i dont think all they got guns and shit and bullets flying in every corner, but still america got way more guns and crimes then all europe probably together..*sarcasm*
but u get the idea..

some1 must b very young or very stubid to think that all what tom gotti said is true.. :P
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Post by: Trauma-san on August 23, 2004, 07:41:42 AM
You just get the general impression that near all Americans have weapons, and it's 100 times easier to purchase weapons there, like e.g. selling it in malls and shit, wether you're mentally fit to own a gun or not.

E.g. on the Munch "Scream & Madonna" theft today, 2 of the witnesses was from America, this is what they told press:

50-60 year old dude:
"This guy was waving around with a, well you know I'm from Texas so I know my guns hehe, I think a .37 caliber or .40"

Woman:
"The man looked crazy and confused, he pointed around with a, I think it was a 40 caliber, it's actually the first time I seen a gun in Norway"

Owning a weapon here in Norway, usually means 3 things:
1. You're a hunter or in a shooting club.
2. You're a policeman or in the military
3. You're a criminal

We don't keep guns for security reasons over here, it's not needed at all.  :)



^ Yeah, "it's not needed at all", until they steal the most valuable property IN YOUR ENTIRE FUCKING COUNTRY, lol. 
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Post by: Trauma-san on August 23, 2004, 07:43:46 AM

nah we think americans are  fat red neck lazy mcdonalds eating slobs..

coz we get shown that jerry springer and oprah..


either that or they're ultra nice white people.. like on friends, will and grace. etc...



lol.. know its not true.. but its how it looks!



do they show any english soaps in america?

Nope.  I think we can get BBC comedy? Or something like that... I think it's called BBC America, I dunno.  I saw a commercial for one of the shows one time, looked hilarious.  There was some fat guy @ an office, with people standing around, and he was like, I've got good news, and I've got bad news... the bad news is, 5 of us are going to be laid off.....  the good news is, I just got a raise.  Everybody's quiet, and he goes "Eh.... still  miffed about the bad news, eh?"  Or something like that. 
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Post by: pappy on August 23, 2004, 10:55:36 AM


Owning a weapon here in Norway, usually means 3 things:
1. You're a hunter or in a shooting club.
2. You're a policeman or in the military
3. You're a criminal





OMFG THOSE ARE THE 3 MAIN REASON PEOPLE OWN GUNS IN AMERICA... WELL I'D BE DAMNED
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Post by: Z the laidback Virus on August 23, 2004, 01:49:06 PM
Everybody knows the biggest difference between Europe and America is the size of the egocentral view of their citizens.. :)
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Post by: Sikotic™ on August 23, 2004, 03:03:29 PM
I know alot of gun toting Americans thats for damn sure
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Post by: mauzip on August 23, 2004, 03:24:04 PM
No, but I think I can say out of experience Europeans have a better picture of the USA than Americans have of Europe.
yeah ::) some ppl honestly think polar bears walks in streets of Finland, and thats retarded..

and no i dont think all they got guns and shit and bullets flying in every corner, but still america got way more guns and crimes then all europe probably together..*sarcasm*
but u get the idea..

some1 must b very young or very stubid to think that all what tom gotti said is true.. :P

Why did you use the rolleyes smilie?
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Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on August 23, 2004, 03:26:54 PM


Owning a weapon here in Norway, usually means 3 things:
1. You're a hunter or in a shooting club.
2. You're a policeman or in the military
3. You're a criminal






OMFG THOSE ARE THE 3 MAIN REASON PEOPLE OWN GUNS IN AMERICA... WELL I'D BE DAMNED



That's not true...I own a gun just for the hell of it and/or saftey reasons.
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Post by: Trauma-san on August 23, 2004, 03:58:27 PM
Lest there be any doubt, I own several guns.  I have pistols, I have rifles, I have shotguns, I even have guns that are almost impossible to fire because they're antiques.  I have a Russian machine gun, too, LOL. 
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Post by: Don Seer on August 23, 2004, 04:13:32 PM

nah we think americans are  fat red neck lazy mcdonalds eating slobs..

coz we get shown that jerry springer and oprah..


either that or they're ultra nice white people.. like on friends, will and grace. etc...



lol.. know its not true.. but its how it looks!



do they show any english soaps in america?

Nope.  I think we can get BBC comedy? Or something like that... I think it's called BBC America, I dunno.  I saw a commercial for one of the shows one time, looked hilarious.  There was some fat guy @ an office, with people standing around, and he was like, I've got good news, and I've got bad news... the bad news is, 5 of us are going to be laid off.....  the good news is, I just got a raise.  Everybody's quiet, and he goes "Eh.... still  miffed about the bad news, eh?"  Or something like that. 

bbc america.. i know about that.. u should check out the american version of "top of the pops"  :)

that programs called "the office".. it won lots of awards. the guy that wrote it is also comedian...

btw check out the cover for his stand up DVD..  up your street.. lol


(http://www.davegeeonline.com/ricky-gervais-live-dvd/ricky-gervais-live-dvd-animals.jpg)
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Post by: Trauma-san on August 23, 2004, 05:35:44 PM
LOL, that pictures gangsta
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Post by: Woodrow on August 23, 2004, 06:13:20 PM
[that programs called "the office".. it won lots of awards. the guy that wrote it is also comedian...
The Office is my second favorite show of all time. I own the DVDs. 
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Post by: Primo on August 23, 2004, 07:32:23 PM
I don't have a gun. But I know alot of people that do...  I do think some of the laws are bullshit too. I got charged with Assault and Battery today. Get this it was some dudes that came into my neighborhood to jump me.  I went outside alone and 4 of them were in there car and when I got like 3 feet from the car the started it up. I knew they were there earlier with bats and shit. So I popped the dude in the face while he was in the car and he drove off and i smashed there back window out. This was Wednesday night. I get a call this morning that I am being charged with assault and battery becuase the dudes went to the cops. Now what kind of pussies come to jump me and then when I punch one of them they call 5-0. Granted I did break the bone under his eye and his nose, So he is pressing charges. The cops don't care one bit that they were down there with bats just that i defended myself. Thats gay. 
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Post by: Jome on August 23, 2004, 08:43:33 PM
Owning a weapon here in Norway, usually means 3 things:
1. You're a hunter or in a shooting club.
2. You're a policeman or in the military
3. You're a criminal
OMFG THOSE ARE THE 3 MAIN REASON PEOPLE OWN GUNS IN AMERICA... WELL I'D BE DAMNED

Oh well, you get the impression it's mostly #3, with some additional #2..

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That's not true...I own a gun just for the hell of it and/or saftey reasons.

That's what you always hear in those gun arguments.
"I HAVE THE RIGHT TO DEFEND MYSELF, MY CHILDREN, AND MY HOUSE"
lol


^ Yeah, "it's not needed at all", until they steal the most valuable property IN YOUR ENTIRE FUCKING COUNTRY, lol. 

LoL
The general Norwegian doesn't give a shit about some crappy painting.
It's the tourists loss anyways, we're not losing any money on that either way...  ;D

It's not like there's a actual risk of somebody breaking into your house or getting robbed in a backalley..  :D
Whenever the politicians discuss gun politics, this argument is always brought up: "We DO NOT want American conditions".  :)

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Post by: DAYUM on August 23, 2004, 10:37:10 PM
in america every city has a ghetto and every city has a rich side... some have gangs some just have drugs some have guns it all depends where you live my city has mainly all but gangs have been cut down alot and so has guns.. but drugs are still bad...
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Post by: DAYUM on August 23, 2004, 10:38:17 PM
P.S. i live in Texas and we get alot of drugs cuzz looks whos right below us... ;)
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Post by: mauzip on August 24, 2004, 01:30:15 AM
In Arizona you have those plants or trees (I don't know what they are) and they grow really high in the air, about 4 or 5 meters. We used to cut them off with a samurai sword :D
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Post by: .:DayGoStyLz:. on August 24, 2004, 01:39:40 AM
i dont think the people on this board can speak for EVERYone from their country tho. I mean, i dont think shit about Europeans really. Obviously they arent all the same. Ask the Germans if they are the same as the Polish lol. But its silly to think we all the same too. Shit, like Tom said...just in one neighborhood....it can be ghetto as hell, and nice on tha other side. I understand tho why people might believe what they see on tv or hear on cd's about us. For someone who never been here, thats all they have to know what its like here.
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Post by: Don Jacob on August 27, 2004, 11:37:43 PM
it's funny how ignorant europeans like jome make america out to be when they havn't even been to the most gun affluent cities in america

compton? not 90% as bad as people make it out to be......the most unsafe place to be in LA at night is not compton, watts,e. LA, long beach or inglewood, but skidrow.

Detroit? pretty much the crime capitol of the US BUT it's no more less safe than london is

New york? IMO new york gets the worst rap as this "home of the mafia" 'rough neck" "ghetto of all ghettos" NY ain't nothing like that ...if anything it's one of the safest , the only scary thing is all those people on the side walk ....mu fucker might scuff my jordans.

Jome you're an ignorant idiot...
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Post by: pappy on August 28, 2004, 12:19:37 AM
it's funny how ignorant europeans like jome make america out to be when they havn't even been to the most gun affluent cities in america

compton? not 90% as bad as people make it out to be......the most unsafe place to be in LA at night is not compton, watts,e. LA, long beach or inglewood, but skidrow.

Detroit? pretty much the crime capitol of the US BUT it's no more less safe than london is

New york? IMO new york gets the worst rap as this "home of the mafia" 'rough neck" "ghetto of all ghettos" NY ain't nothing like that ...if anything it's one of the safest , the only scary thing is all those people on the side walk ....mu fucker might scuff my jordans.

Jome you're an ignorant idiot...

new york aint nothing like it was.  Through out the 70's an 80's you had 2000 muderes a year.  Shit was crazy.  But that all went away basically.  Drug Turf is settled now an all the big time dealers in ny went down south.  and the mafia is more legit than in years an arent as reckless where there pop off at the drop of a dime.  seriously,  the best tho was when jome said loyd banks cd is telling a story of growing up in jamaica queens lol.
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Post by: Jome on August 28, 2004, 06:12:25 PM
it's funny how ignorant europeans like jome make america out to be when they havn't even been to the most gun affluent cities in america

compton? not 90% as bad as people make it out to be......the most unsafe place to be in LA at night is not compton, watts,e. LA, long beach or inglewood, but skidrow.

Detroit? pretty much the crime capitol of the US BUT it's no more less safe than london is

New york? IMO new york gets the worst rap as this "home of the mafia" 'rough neck" "ghetto of all ghettos" NY ain't nothing like that ...if anything it's one of the safest , the only scary thing is all those people on the side walk ....mu fucker might scuff my jordans.

Jome you're an ignorant idiot...

Why.. ??
Because I'm breaking down the stereotype American for you.. ?
And neither I nor Europeans make that stereotype, AMERICANS CREATE IT, you moron!

But then again, you probably never set your foot outside U.S., and neither do you understand the term "stereotype".
Americans like to describe Englishmen as "Americans except wack dental hygiene, without proper sports, and without good looking women" and Frenchmen as "Feminine pussies with a stupid language, closet homosexuals and what worse is".

IF ANYBODY shouldn't be talking about other cultures and stereotypes, it's Americans !!!
The stereotypes Americans have of other cultures, are the least educated and dumbest stereotypes there is, this board should be proof enough. (Like always, this doesn't go for every American, there are smart ones, but then again there's dumbasses like Jake who ruins for the smart Americans)

And for the last time, let me make this simple for you:
When you ask for the term "Stereotype American", it does NOT EQUAL "my opinion", it's the picture the rest of the world have of Americans based on Americans actions, behavior, culture, etc.

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ster·e·o·type 
n

   1. A conventional, formulaic, and oversimplified conception, opinion, or image.
   2. One that is regarded as embodying or conforming to a set image or type.

Feel free to not reply, take a history or geography class instead.
Jake, you're a dumbass.
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Post by: Sikotic™ on August 28, 2004, 08:56:19 PM

The stereotypes Americans have of other cultures, are the least educated and dumbest stereotypes there is, this board should be proof enough.

I never knew there was a well educated, smart stereotype
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Post by: Z the laidback Virus on August 29, 2004, 01:24:46 AM
Aren't nerds and professors stereotyped as smart and well-educated?(Along with characteristic grey hair and white coat for the professor and glasses,pimples and celibatic lifestyle for the nerd)
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Post by: Woodrow on August 29, 2004, 01:35:34 AM
IF ANYBODY shouldn't be talking about other cultures and stereotypes, it's Americans !!!
The stereotypes Americans have of other cultures, are the least educated and dumbest stereotypes there is, this board should be proof enough. (Like always, this doesn't go for every American, there are smart ones, but then again there's dumbasses like Jake who ruins for the smart Americans)

LOL @ YOU STEREOTYPING AMERICANS!!!!!
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Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on August 30, 2004, 04:19:00 AM
Jome, you really made yourself sound like a complete moron with that one.
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Post by: Jome on August 30, 2004, 10:37:30 AM
Coming from you, I take that as a compliment.
Thanks.

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Post by: Don Jacob on August 30, 2004, 09:59:53 PM
it's funny how ignorant europeans like jome make america out to be when they havn't even been to the most gun affluent cities in america

compton? not 90% as bad as people make it out to be......the most unsafe place to be in LA at night is not compton, watts,e. LA, long beach or inglewood, but skidrow.

Detroit? pretty much the crime capitol of the US BUT it's no more less safe than london is

New york? IMO new york gets the worst rap as this "home of the mafia" 'rough neck" "ghetto of all ghettos" NY ain't nothing like that ...if anything it's one of the safest , the only scary thing is all those people on the side walk ....mu fucker might scuff my jordans.

Jome you're an ignorant idiot...

Why.. ??
Because I'm breaking down the stereotype American for you.. ?
And neither I nor Europeans make that stereotype, AMERICANS CREATE IT, you moron!

But then again, you probably never set your foot outside U.S., and neither do you understand the term "stereotype".
Americans like to describe Englishmen as "Americans except wack dental hygiene, without proper sports, and without good looking women" and Frenchmen as "Feminine pussies with a stupid language, closet homosexuals and what worse is".

IF ANYBODY shouldn't be talking about other cultures and stereotypes, it's Americans !!!
The stereotypes Americans have of other cultures, are the least educated and dumbest stereotypes there is, this board should be proof enough. (Like always, this doesn't go for every American, there are smart ones, but then again there's dumbasses like Jake who ruins for the smart Americans)

And for the last time, let me make this simple for you:
When you ask for the term "Stereotype American", it does NOT EQUAL "my opinion", it's the picture the rest of the world have of Americans based on Americans actions, behavior, culture, etc.

Quote
ster·e·o·type 
n

   1. A conventional, formulaic, and oversimplified conception, opinion, or image.
   2. One that is regarded as embodying or conforming to a set image or type.

Feel free to not reply, take a history or geography class instead.
Jake, you're a dumbass.


lol jome you're a hypocrit....americans create their stereotype? Fine ....well so do black a being watermelon and fried chicken eating basketball player who can't speak right, well so do white people as being robotic souless racists, so do germans as being militant angry nazi's, so do asians as being rice eating samari sword throwing kung fu fighters.....jome shut your bitch ass up with that logic.

so since i'm american i can never talk about stereotypes...oh okay sorry i didn't know you were Jesus Christ. And for the record i've been to Spain Italy England and Germany so jack me off slowly bitch i've got a healthier view of europe than you do ....besides you're putting words in my mouth with those stereotypes...i never once said that crap about those nationalities. ...jome shut your bitch ass up with your gay logic

How would you know how all americans think? now you're just making assumptions and grabbing shit out of the air. If what you say is true , that all americans have the worst and most ignorant views of other countries....that ain't our fault....the only reason why you know so much about us is because you got our great culture's cock down your throats.....if you want americans to have a better view of Europe develope something over there that is of interest besides the Spice Girls and Ace of Base. I see america as being one of those popular people in highschool that everyone knows about...and i see some european countires as those angry goth chicks who hate the popular .....jome shut up with your gothic girl ass.

i don't know why you felt the need to define stereotype......i know what it is, and i know what you know what it is, now that you looked it up.

but if you want people to stop stereotyping your insignificant ass and your insignificant country .....don't stereotype ours


i think you ma'am need to take a history class and learn some american culture.
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Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on August 31, 2004, 12:29:41 AM
it's funny how ignorant europeans like jome make america out to be when they havn't even been to the most gun affluent cities in america

compton? not 90% as bad as people make it out to be......the most unsafe place to be in LA at night is not compton, watts,e. LA, long beach or inglewood, but skidrow.

Detroit? pretty much the crime capitol of the US BUT it's no more less safe than london is

New york? IMO new york gets the worst rap as this "home of the mafia" 'rough neck" "ghetto of all ghettos" NY ain't nothing like that ...if anything it's one of the safest , the only scary thing is all those people on the side walk ....mu fucker might scuff my jordans.

Jome you're an ignorant idiot...

Why.. ??
Because I'm breaking down the stereotype American for you.. ?
And neither I nor Europeans make that stereotype, AMERICANS CREATE IT, you moron!

But then again, you probably never set your foot outside U.S., and neither do you understand the term "stereotype".
Americans like to describe Englishmen as "Americans except wack dental hygiene, without proper sports, and without good looking women" and Frenchmen as "Feminine pussies with a stupid language, closet homosexuals and what worse is".

IF ANYBODY shouldn't be talking about other cultures and stereotypes, it's Americans !!!
The stereotypes Americans have of other cultures, are the least educated and dumbest stereotypes there is, this board should be proof enough. (Like always, this doesn't go for every American, there are smart ones, but then again there's dumbasses like Jake who ruins for the smart Americans)

And for the last time, let me make this simple for you:
When you ask for the term "Stereotype American", it does NOT EQUAL "my opinion", it's the picture the rest of the world have of Americans based on Americans actions, behavior, culture, etc.

Quote
ster·e·o·type 
n

   1. A conventional, formulaic, and oversimplified conception, opinion, or image.
   2. One that is regarded as embodying or conforming to a set image or type.

Feel free to not reply, take a history or geography class instead.
Jake, you're a dumbass.


lol jome you're a hypocrit....americans create their stereotype? Fine ....well so do black a being watermelon and fried chicken eating basketball player who can't speak right, well so do white people as being robotic souless racists, so do germans as being militant angry nazi's, so do asians as being rice eating samari sword throwing kung fu fighters.....jome shut your bitch ass up with that logic.

so since i'm american i can never talk about stereotypes...oh okay sorry i didn't know you were Jesus Christ. And for the record i've been to Spain Italy England and Germany so jack me off slowly bitch i've got a healthier view of europe than you do ....besides you're putting words in my mouth with those stereotypes...i never once said that crap about those nationalities. ...jome shut your bitch ass up with your gay logic

How would you know how all americans think? now you're just making assumptions and grabbing shit out of the air. If what you say is true , that all americans have the worst and most ignorant views of other countries....that ain't our fault....the only reason why you know so much about us is because you got our great culture's cock down your throats.....if you want americans to have a better view of Europe develope something over there that is of interest besides the Spice Girls and Ace of Base. I see america as being one of those popular people in highschool that everyone knows about...and i see some european countires as those angry goth chicks who hate the popular .....jome shut up with your gothic girl ass.

i don't know why you felt the need to define stereotype......i know what it is, and i know what you know what it is, now that you looked it up.

but if you want people to stop stereotyping your insignificant ass and your insignificant country .....don't stereotype ours


i think you ma'am need to take a history class and learn some american culture.


LMAO...Sonned. 8)
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Post by: Don Jacob on August 31, 2004, 12:18:52 PM
it's funny how ignorant europeans like jome make america out to be when they havn't even been to the most gun affluent cities in america

compton? not 90% as bad as people make it out to be......the most unsafe place to be in LA at night is not compton, watts,e. LA, long beach or inglewood, but skidrow.

Detroit? pretty much the crime capitol of the US BUT it's no more less safe than london is

New york? IMO new york gets the worst rap as this "home of the mafia" 'rough neck" "ghetto of all ghettos" NY ain't nothing like that ...if anything it's one of the safest , the only scary thing is all those people on the side walk ....mu fucker might scuff my jordans.

Jome you're an ignorant idiot...

Why.. ??
Because I'm breaking down the stereotype American for you.. ?
And neither I nor Europeans make that stereotype, AMERICANS CREATE IT, you moron!

But then again, you probably never set your foot outside U.S., and neither do you understand the term "stereotype".
Americans like to describe Englishmen as "Americans except wack dental hygiene, without proper sports, and without good looking women" and Frenchmen as "Feminine pussies with a stupid language, closet homosexuals and what worse is".

IF ANYBODY shouldn't be talking about other cultures and stereotypes, it's Americans !!!
The stereotypes Americans have of other cultures, are the least educated and dumbest stereotypes there is, this board should be proof enough. (Like always, this doesn't go for every American, there are smart ones, but then again there's dumbasses like Jake who ruins for the smart Americans)

And for the last time, let me make this simple for you:
When you ask for the term "Stereotype American", it does NOT EQUAL "my opinion", it's the picture the rest of the world have of Americans based on Americans actions, behavior, culture, etc.

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ster·e·o·type 
n

   1. A conventional, formulaic, and oversimplified conception, opinion, or image.
   2. One that is regarded as embodying or conforming to a set image or type.

Feel free to not reply, take a history or geography class instead.
Jake, you're a dumbass.




. And for the record i've been to Spain Italy England and Germany so jack me off slowly bitch i've got a healthier view of europe than you do ....

i meant to put OF AMERICA at the end of that
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Post by: Jome on August 31, 2004, 12:24:04 PM
Damn Jake, you must be an embarrassment to all Americans, or are they all this stupid.. ?? (Stereotype alert!!)
Simpler and dumber argumentation I haven't heard since elementary school.
(I went to school with a dumb fat ugly American girl, do I assume that all Americans are fat, ugly and dumb like you would assume. ? No.)

You proved once and for all, that you're a ignorant, simple-minded moron.
I think you need to look up the definition of stereotype again, get back here when you get it.


LMAO...Sonned. 8)

LMAO @ this dickriding fag.
Couldn't come up with any arguments yourself, only useless commenting from the sideline.. ?

. And for the record i've been to Spain Italy England and Germany so jack me off slowly bitch i've got a healthier view of europe than you do ....
i meant to put OF AMERICA at the end of that
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Doesn't matter.
I've been to all of those countries except Germany, + dozens more.

You sound like you need to jack yourself off, fucking fag !!
Lmao @ this closet homo.
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Post by: Don Jacob on August 31, 2004, 01:07:28 PM
^ you fail to show me how i don't understand the meaning of stereotyping. either way you're falling for more stereotypes than me...wow there you go jome something you can do better than me. now you can walk away from this post feeling better about yourself.

so just because you've gone to more european countries than me you have a better understanding about america than i have of europe?? LMAO have you ever even been to the US? and if you have i doubt you've even seen the many many many many many many many many many many many different parts of the US, no two parts of the US are the same. my whole point is I actually have been to your neck of the woods and explored for myself what thoset culutures over the pond are like. while you're sitting on your fat ass talking about a country you havn't even experienced.


Jome the day you tavle the west coast , the east coast, the bible belt, the southwest, the north, the midwest and middle america.....you have no place in a conversation about american culture

it's so obvious your the one here embracing stereotypes
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Post by: .:DayGoStyLz:. on August 31, 2004, 01:20:28 PM
it's funny how ignorant europeans like jome make america out to be when they havn't even been to the most gun affluent cities in america

compton? not 90% as bad as people make it out to be......the most unsafe place to be in LA at night is not compton, watts,e. LA, long beach or inglewood, but skidrow.

Detroit? pretty much the crime capitol of the US BUT it's no more less safe than london is

New york? IMO new york gets the worst rap as this "home of the mafia" 'rough neck" "ghetto of all ghettos" NY ain't nothing like that ...if anything it's one of the safest , the only scary thing is all those people on the side walk ....mu fucker might scuff my jordans.

Jome you're an ignorant idiot...

i dunno. ive had a quite a few people from England that ive worked wit. And i wouldnt say London is AS UNSAFE as most major cities here.
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Post by: Don Jacob on August 31, 2004, 01:27:07 PM
well it was like you were saying earlier about tom's post, queens might be considered "ghetto" but it's got it's nice parts. I went there a couple of years ago and it's just like New York in A LOT of ways, it's got it's really popular places that are hollowed and cool, then they got nice places, then they got average places, then there's the underbelly where it's all grungy and "ghetto"
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Post by: Jome on August 31, 2004, 04:26:28 PM
well it was like you were saying earlier about tom's post, queens might be considered "ghetto" but it's got it's nice parts. I went there a couple of years ago and it's just like New York in A LOT of ways, it's got it's really popular places that are hollowed and cool, then they got nice places, then they got average places, then there's the underbelly where it's all grungy and "ghetto"

EVERY city and EVERY country have nice parts, we're talking about the general picture.
You'll find nice rich parts of cities in Romania, Bulgaria, Ukraine... what's your point.. ??

^ you fail to show me how i don't understand the meaning of stereotyping. either way you're falling for more stereotypes than me...wow there you go jome something you can do better than me. now you can walk away from this post feeling better about yourself.

You get all personal and touchy when stereotypes are brought up.
You also mix personal prejudices, inferiority complexes, views & opinions up with stereotypes.

Let's take an example here:
In the European stereotypes thread, these stereotypes was brought up for Scandinavia, where I'm from:

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Windmills, Vikings. Wooden Shoes.Blonde supermodels, just like canada, cold , full of happy go lucky blonde people.
Cold, lots of fields and farms, and green when there is no snow. Not many people, but the ones that are there are borderline Communist. In case of war, they defend themselves with hockey sticks
They Wear Wooden shoes And Dance in skirts and pigtails and everyone is blond hair blue eyes
Fine ass blond chicks, very sexual.

The only thing I feel familiar with from these quotes, are blonde supermodels, and that it's colder than most of Europe..

I have never seen a wooden shoe except on museums, we don't have many farms, the communist party gets 0.001% of the votes (probably Russian immigrants), hockey is a very small sport here, and far from everyone is blonde, neither do we dance in skirts and pigtails.

Do I get all mad and mushy and say "We're not using wooden shoes, and we don't have windmills, god damn it!!" or "Fucking dumbass Americans, we're not communists! aaaarrrgghh fucking morons, I'm soooo maaad"

Do I.. ?
Nope.

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Post by: Don Jacob on August 31, 2004, 06:14:00 PM

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EVERY city and EVERY country have nice parts, we're talking about the general picture.
You'll find nice rich parts of cities in Romania, Bulgaria, Ukraine... what's your point.. ??

i believe i was talking to daygo, but New york and London are on the same "unsafe" scale.



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You get all personal and touchy when stereotypes are brought up.
You also mix personal prejudices, inferiority complexes, views & opinions up with stereotypes.

lol i get all personal.....wow correct me if i'm wrong but i walked out of this post (after my first post) and went to bed...you on the other hand walked away from this post , made a whole other post saying "stupid jake don't know shit so i'm making a new thread to TRY to son him blah blah"........seriously jome who's the one getting butt hurt here?

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Let's take an example here:
In the European stereotypes thread, these stereotypes was brought up for Scandinavia, where I'm from:

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Windmills, Vikings. Wooden Shoes.Blonde supermodels, just like canada, cold , full of happy go lucky blonde people.
Cold, lots of fields and farms, and green when there is no snow. Not many people, but the ones that are there are borderline Communist. In case of war, they defend themselves with hockey sticks
They Wear Wooden shoes And Dance in skirts and pigtails and everyone is blond hair blue eyes
Fine ass blond chicks, very sexual.

The only thing I feel familiar with from these quotes, are blonde supermodels, and that it's colder than most of Europe..

I have never seen a wooden shoe except on museums, we don't have many farms, the communist party gets 0.001% of the votes (probably Russian immigrants), hockey is a very small sport here, and far from everyone is blonde, neither do we dance in skirts and pigtails.

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Do I get all mad and mushy and say "We're not using wooden shoes, and we don't have windmills, god damn it!!" or "Fucking dumbass Americans, we're not communists! aaaarrrgghh fucking morons, I'm soooo maaad"

Do I.. ?
Nope.

wow you have great skill in contradictiing yourself....you get upset that you're being stereotyped ....then say you don't get mad....great skill jome great skill.

say what you will but you're still the one getting mad over the whole stereotype thing
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Post by: Jome on August 31, 2004, 07:30:32 PM
wow you have great skill in contradictiing yourself....you get upset that you're being stereotyped ....then say you don't get mad....great skill jome great skill.

say what you will but you're still the one getting mad over the whole stereotype thing

Damn, I'm talking to a 12 year old.
Read the last part of my post again, and THINK before you reply.


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lol i get all personal.....wow correct me if i'm wrong but i walked out of this post (after my first post) and went to bed...you on the other hand walked away from this post , made a whole other post saying "stupid jake don't know shit so i'm making a new thread to TRY to son him blah blah"........seriously jome who's the one getting butt hurt here?

No, I made the post to see what impression Americans have of Europeans, and what the stereotypes are like.

And my assumptions proved correct regarding the replies, not surprisingly.


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Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on September 02, 2004, 03:40:40 AM

Couldn't come up with any arguments yourself, only useless commenting from the sideline.. ?





I don't waste my time on people who sleep with Mauzip for positive karma, and post about Alchemist in the Outbound section just cuz he works with the East.
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Post by: 7even on September 02, 2004, 03:51:07 AM
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lol jome you're a hypocrit....americans create their stereotype? Fine ....well so do black a being watermelon and fried chicken eating basketball player who can't speak right, well so do white people as being robotic souless racists, so do germans as being militant angry nazi's, so do asians as being rice eating samari sword throwing kung fu fighters.....jome shut your bitch ass up with that logic.


Bullshit. With racist stuff on whites it's a pure double standard, and with claiming Germans are militant angry nazis you're as wrong as they come. The todays German wont even dare to say anything patriotic or even racist. Patriotism = non-existent in Germany. Militant? LoL. Look at our military then look at yours, look at our passed 4 years military-wise then look at yours.  My friends and me rather go feeding old ppl or something (that's what you have to do here for a year if you refuse to go to the military) than joining the Bundeswehr. It's just your old-fashioned image of Germans, they dont create it. Our grand-grandfathers created it and you still call us Nazis. What a shame. It's like Europeans calling todays Americans Pilgrims and claiming that you always get into ships and try to conquer new land with barettas. Also nice how you left out the Mexican stereotype part in your great talk. What a subtle coincidence.
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Post by: pappy on September 02, 2004, 08:14:42 AM
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lol jome you're a hypocrit....americans create their stereotype? Fine ....well so do black a being watermelon and fried chicken eating basketball player who can't speak right, well so do white people as being robotic souless racists, so do germans as being militant angry nazi's, so do asians as being rice eating samari sword throwing kung fu fighters.....jome shut your bitch ass up with that logic.


Bullshit. With racist stuff on whites it's a pure double standard, and with claiming Germans are militant angry nazis you're as wrong as they come. The todays German wont even dare to say anything patriotic or even racist. Patriotism = non-existent in Germany. Militant? LoL. Look at our military then look at yours, look at our passed 4 years military-wise then look at yours.  My friends and me rather go feeding old ppl or something (that's what you have to do here for a year if you refuse to go to the military) than joining the Bundeswehr. It's just your old-fashioned image of Germans, they dont create it. Our grand-grandfathers created it and you still call us Nazis. What a shame. It's like Europeans calling todays Americans Pilgrims and claiming that you always get into ships and try to conquer new land with barettas. Also nice how you left out the Mexican stereotype part in your great talk. What a subtle coincidence.
LMFAO ARE YOU STUPID.   Jake wasnt dissing germans or anyone there lol.  It was a jab at jome's logic.  Not a jab at germans.
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Post by: 7even on September 02, 2004, 10:27:26 AM
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lol jome you're a hypocrit....americans create their stereotype? Fine ....well so do black a being watermelon and fried chicken eating basketball player who can't speak right, well so do white people as being robotic souless racists, so do germans as being militant angry nazi's, so do asians as being rice eating samari sword throwing kung fu fighters.....jome shut your bitch ass up with that logic.


Bullshit. With racist stuff on whites it's a pure double standard, and with claiming Germans are militant angry nazis you're as wrong as they come. The todays German wont even dare to say anything patriotic or even racist. Patriotism = non-existent in Germany. Militant? LoL. Look at our military then look at yours, look at our passed 4 years military-wise then look at yours.  My friends and me rather go feeding old ppl or something (that's what you have to do here for a year if you refuse to go to the military) than joining the Bundeswehr. It's just your old-fashioned image of Germans, they dont create it. Our grand-grandfathers created it and you still call us Nazis. What a shame. It's like Europeans calling todays Americans Pilgrims and claiming that you always get into ships and try to conquer new land with barettas. Also nice how you left out the Mexican stereotype part in your great talk. What a subtle coincidence.
LMFAO ARE YOU STUPID.   Jake wasnt dissing germans or anyone there lol.  It was a jab at jome's logic.  Not a jab at germans.

I am stupid? Well, then you're a hypocrite. LoL.
He used it to fuck Jome up, although, it was  still a diss. He didnt use to show that such stereotypes are untrue, but to show that it is normal that stereotyped ppl create their own stereotype which makes it irrelevant that this is also the case with Americans because it's banal and normal. That doesnt imply that it's untrue, it implies that Germans, Asians, Negros, Whites etc .. create their (true) stereotypes themselves. I felt offended, just like you sometimes do. So, I shared my view with Wcc. A noble thing. I shouldnt be dissed for that, Tommy.
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Post by: Don Jacob on September 02, 2004, 11:52:20 AM
lol why am i the subject of analysis of what i meant ....first trauma , NIK ,and some dude, now tom and some one from the 3rd riech (joke)


anyways like tom said, thanks btw tom for knowing what i'm talking about, it was me using Jome's logic against him. not once did i say in that post that's how all germans are, hell i've been to germany and they ain't nazi's(more like ravers and techno fiends if anything)....that's just  the stereotype y'all got LIKE IT OR NOT! seriously if you got offended by what i said you truely are a tampon case.
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Post by: Jome on September 02, 2004, 01:15:50 PM
i've been to germany and they ain't nazi's(more like ravers and techno fiends if anything)....that's just  the stereotype y'all got LIKE IT OR NOT! seriously if you got offended by what i said you truely are a tampon case.


LMAO!!

So the American stereotype about having easier access to weapons and having more crime than the average European country + most things in U.S. is XXL (buildings, people, food, sport stadiums etc.), that's American bashing propaganda bullshit from Jome, but it's totally OK and accepted that the German stereotype is that they are ugly angry militant nazis... ??

LM motherfucking AO !!!!



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Post by: Don Jacob on September 02, 2004, 09:46:55 PM
Jome you're a true and prime example of a tampon case.


seriously jome i'm not arguing with the german dude over the stereotype him and germany have. Germans have that stigma of being uptight militant body building nazi's ....that's the Stereotype not reality. i'm not trying to argue over reality unlike some little boy whose been locked up in some insignificant part of the world comenting on a place he doesn't understand or has even been to . i'm not running around telling him how germany is...you on the other hand are running around telling us how america is from STEREOTYPES.....i could care less about what you see stereotypically, the problem is that you actually believe them. you actually believe people in Jamaica queens stand on their front porches and shoot randomly in the sky, you actually believe that eazy e woke up every morning went to the corner store and robbed the vietnamese liquor store for breakfast. It's amazing how much you're judging america...off of some stereotypes. again jome until you've even seen LA or NY like me and tom....don't even bother to comment on "how bad the US gun control policies are"

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Post by: Jome on September 02, 2004, 10:25:58 PM
OMG, you're so fucking dumb.

When the fuck did I say "people in Jamaica queens stand on their front porches and shoot randomly in the sky" or "eazy e woke up every morning went to the corner store and robbed the vietnamese liquor store for breakfast".....  ??

You're making bullshit up, because you're a braindead dimwit.

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again jome until you've even seen LA or NY like me and tom....don't even bother to comment on "how bad the US gun control policies are"

Map & Graph: Crime: Murders with firearms (Top 100 Countries)

1.   South Africa   31,918 (2000)   
2.   Colombia   21,898 (2000)   
3.   Thailand   20,032 (2000)   
4.   United States   8,259 (1999)   
5.   Mexico   3,589 (2000)   
6.   Zimbabwe   598 (2000)   
7.   Germany   384 (2000)   
8.   Belarus   331 (2000)   
9.   Czech Republic   213 (2000)   
10.   Ukraine   173 (2000)   
11.   Poland   166 (2000)   
12.   Canada   165 (1999)   
13.   Costa Rica   126 (1999)   
14.   Slovakia   117 (2000)   
15.   Spain   97 (2000)   
16.   Uruguay   84 (2000)   
17.   Portugal   84 (2000)   
18.   Lithuania   83 (2000)   
19.   Bulgaria   63 (2000)   
20.   United Kingdom   62 (1999)
...
53.   Norway   49 (2000)    

Doesn't that tell you something, dumbass.. ??
This is 1999, but from 1999 to 2002, you went from 8000 to more than 15.000...
Does that tell you anything about gun politics, or is this propaganda based on rappers ducktales.. ??

You're up there with South Africa & Colombia, 2 of the most outlaw countries in the world, not comparable huh.. ??
Fall back moron!

And don't even get us started on burglaries:

1.   United States   2,099,700 (1999)   
2.   United Kingdom   836,027 (2000)   
3.   Australia   436,865 (2000)   
4.   South Africa   394,557 (2000)   
5.   France   370,993 (2000)

And don't even bring up assaults:

1.   United States   2,238,480 (1999)   
2.   South Africa   535,461 (2000)   
3.   United Kingdom   450,865 (2000)   
4.   Mexico   255,179 (2000)   
5.   India   236,313 (1999)   

Car thefts you say.. ??

1.   United States   1,147,300 (1999)   
2.   United Kingdom   338,796 (2000)   
3.   Japan   309,638 (2000)   
4.   France   301,539 (2000)   
5.   Italy   243,890 (2000)   

Crime & weapons crimes IS a lot bigger in U.S. than in Europe, it's not even a stereotype, it's F-A-C-T.
FBI made these statistics, don't even try blaiming U.N. lmao!

Don't even bother replying, you're gonna make yourself look like a even bigger fruitcake, if that's even possible.


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Post by: mauzip on September 03, 2004, 03:13:30 AM
^^dude, america is a whole lot bigger than south africa and the uk
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Post by: Jome on September 03, 2004, 01:48:57 PM
^^^ I know, but U.S. is top 5 to top 10 in all the crime "per capita" statistics as well.
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Post by: Don Jacob on September 03, 2004, 10:35:04 PM
i want to see some crimes per capitas then.... you're statistics mean nothing right now since the state of california is bigger than most of those countires



again jome get this through your skull......compton and Jamaica queens are not even 90% as bad as YOU THINK THEY ARE YOU FUCKING EUROPEAN FUCK!

you got me AND tom........two people who KNOW what these places are like ....and they're not 90% as bad as the media (US and europe) make them out to be!!!!! get that through your mother fucking god damn skull bitch!

i'm sorry that the united states isn't a bunch of people picking daisys and hugging trees, and I"M GLAD, i'm glad america is more rough, i'm glad i'm not some sesitive white boy  who'd cry if he saw someone's car stereo get robbed. seriously i live in East Bakersfield considered as a really high crime neighbor hood.....when i walk down the street after pay day with 1,000 dollars in my pocket ,i'm not affraid of being robbed! even in LA i'm not affraid. Hell RIGHT NOW i have a my front door unlocked in the middle of the night. my cousins in EAST LA sleep with the front door open and the screen door unlocked. hell right now i have my car outside without the alarm on with both windows down and the drop top back....and i do the same when im in LA.......seriously man IT"S NOT AS BAD AS YOU IGNORANT ASS THINKS

you can throw as many statistics up as you want but the fact of the matter is, the numbers don't speak as loud as the reality! Jome have you EVER been to the UNITED STATES!?
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Post by: pappy on September 03, 2004, 10:55:12 PM
i want to see some crimes per capitas then.... you're statistics mean nothing right now since the state of california is bigger than most of those countires



again jome get this through your skull......compton and Jamaica queens are not even 90% as bad as YOU THINK THEY ARE YOU FUCKING EUROPEAN FUCK!

you got me AND tom........two people who KNOW what these places are like ....and they're not 90% as bad as the media (US and europe) make them out to be!!!!! get that through your mother fucking god damn skull bitch!

i'm sorry that the united states isn't a bunch of people picking daisys and hugging trees, and I"M GLAD, i'm glad america is more rough, i'm glad i'm not some sesitive white boy  who'd cry if he saw someone's car stereo get robbed. seriously i live in East Bakersfield considered as a really high crime neighbor hood.....when i walk down the street after pay day with 1,000 dollars in my pocket ,i'm not affraid of being robbed! even in LA i'm not affraid. Hell RIGHT NOW i have a my front door unlocked in the middle of the night. my cousins in EAST LA sleep with the front door open and the screen door unlocked. hell right now i have my car outside without the alarm on with both windows down and the drop top back....and i do the same when im in LA.......seriously man IT"S NOT AS BAD AS YOU IGNORANT ASS THINKS

you can throw as many statistics up as you want but the fact of the matter is, the numbers don't speak as loud as the reality! Jome have you EVER been to the UNITED STATES!?
pretty much what he said lol.
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Post by: Jome on September 03, 2004, 10:56:11 PM
YOU THINK THEY ARE YOU FUCKING EUROPEAN FUCK!
 get that through your mother fucking god damn skull bitch!

Lmao, angry little boy huh.. cursing and getting mad on the computer makes you a real bad ass..  ;D
A good way to escape the real discussion, and avoid actually bringing up facts.

Might as well lock this up, ain't no reason to go back and forth in circles with a 3rd grader..