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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Elano on December 29, 2008, 02:14:33 PM
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I did about a good year of promoting off of that single when I was tapped by MCA Records to join their label in 2002. With them I produced one of the best West coast albums to release since the days of Doggystyle and All Eyez on Me.
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http://www.planeturban.com.au/features/interview_shade_sheist
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Whats your obsession with Shade Sheist now, u should show some respect, he had a #1 single and a classic album and still fucks with us (fans) here on dubcnn
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Whats your obsession with Shade Sheist now, u should show some respect, he had a #1 single and a classic album and still fucks with us (fans) here on dubcnn
hes mad at him cause shade shitted on him :laugh:
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he did drop a great fucking album. i would say his album and "knocs landin" were 2 of the best in a long time for the west coast. and both shade and knoc came up at the same time. hopefully some 'new west' artists can achieve similar goals.
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Whats your obsession with Shade Sheist now, u should show some respect, he had a #1 single and a classic album and still fucks with us (fans) here on dubcnn
hes mad at him cause shade shitted on him :laugh:
he shitted on me ? where ? in that 4 PASSPORTS thread ? :D :D :D :D
c'mon ::)
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he did drop a great fucking album.
Ok,BUT not one of the best West coast albums since the days of Doggystyle and All Eyez on Me. :nawty: :nawty:
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Didn't say that, but why are u mad at him ?
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Didn't say that, but why are u mad at him ?
MAD ? NO,i've just started a thread about a ridiculous statement imho...
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It's the truth.
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It's a matter of opinion. And how was that album not one of the best West Coast releases after All Eyez On Me? He didn't say it's the best or in the top 5 or something like that. He just said it's one of the best. A lot of rappers these days are big headed and cocky but I don't consider that statement either.
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Talk about a backfire.. LMAO..
and LMFAO @ You Moving To a New Thread Cause I Ate All Your Points Up In The Last One!
Forreal homie.. don't be mad at me for maintaining my relevancy..
that's like somebody telling you to STFU because you are amp'd up on your Birthday..
I do my thang and I'm not afraid to brag about my acheivements..
..if you too have any acheivements in your life, you should feel what I feel!
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Talk about a backfire.. LMAO..
and LMFAO @ You Moving To a New Thread Cause I Ate All Your Points Up In The Last One!
Forreal homie.. don't be mad at me for maintaining my relevancy..
that's like somebody telling you to STFU because you are amp'd up on your Birthday..
I do my thang and I'm not afraid to brag about my acheivements..
..if you too have any acheivements in your life, you should feel what I feel!
did any of your relevace have to do with DAMIZZA ???
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sheist is gangsta,dinamo u bitch
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If Informal introduction was at all a decent album it was due to production and features. Where I Wanna Be was successful due to Nates hook and Kurupt, it could have been any old nobody rapping a 16 on there with them and it would have done the same. also i havent seen any releases from Shade that werent filled with songs recorded at Baby Ree.....make something of your career without a guy that had radio pull at the time of your introduction and then you can say you are relevant.
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If Informal introduction was at all a decent album it was due to production and features.
Where I Wanna Be was successful due to Nates hook and Kurupt,
it could have been any old nobody rapping a 16 on there with them and it would have done the same.
also i havent seen any releases from Shade that werent filled with songs recorded at Baby Ree.....
make something of your career without a guy (Damizza) that had radio pull at the time of your introduction and then you can say you are relevant.
Damizza power #4 (out of 30) in The Source Magazine feb.99
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hate or not,but that´s....
.....the truth.
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Well to be fair...how much success did Shade Sheist have after him and Damizza split? The album was damn good but lets take our blindfolds off for a minute.
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Shade coming under fire here. That album was above average , no doubt. Had some duds on it too, though. The video was outstanding ( Money Owners ), and this album is a complement to the west catalogue for sure. It's not a classic for sure , but , like Knoc's albums , it never leaves my changer !!!!!
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If you know my history then you know that Damizza and I spearheaded everything that eventually lead to our success..
but you haters are bitchmade and I will tell you why..
-Back in 98 Yall claimed I cheated the game because I partnered up with a cat who WASN'T EVEN THE MAN AT RADIO YET WHEN I DID <<
-But then yall wanna try to flip it now to make a point... apparently mad because my history can't be erased no matter wat (you) say.. lol..
What is the point of showing me an old Source article? I have ALL 3 framed. Mizz and I nearly drank and smoked ourselves to death out of celebration.
Don't I say in "Not From" - "..Power 30 Three Times? Yea, He Holdin It Down.." ...?
>> It is obvious that some of you rely too much on hearsay to make your points.. which is typical.. nothing new.
--But let me ask you this:
How are any of you gonna tell me my business?
Furthermore, for all you who say you could've added any rapper to WIWB and made it a success.. THEN WHY DIDN'T YOU!?
I guess if any dancer would've moonwalked first they would be MJ right now, yea?
I feel what yall goin through.. been dealing with it since the days of Gangstaville.. anytime I show a lil confidence yall start crying..
Such is Life.. LMAO.
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You haters need to shut the fuck up seriously. He is obviously talented so you need to get off his dick. Just let him do him and you do you. You are all mad because he's doing something and ur still living with mommy and daddy. Get a fucking life.
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That's only obvious J..
But really wat they are tryin to do is stir up shit between Mizza and I, not knowing we are so far past that..
you will not get me to run down my list just so it seems like i'm sayin that other folx ain't doin sh*t like me..
In case yall failed to see the video.. we squashed that..
In case yall failed to download my USA Worldtape.. Mizza produced on it..
We work for our own respective companies but that bad blood has long but ceased..
If beef is what you want.. then you better find another artist..
If you just wanna hate because it's the trend.. by all means, do wat u do!
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shade,
u r a known artist,why do u even reply to that fag ???? he maybe a 45 years old wanker who wanks over bush's pics ??
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My continuation speaks for itself, I know.. but sometimes you gotta say something back!
I will continue to tour and release.. ignorance will carry on as such.
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me and my cousins will visit u in germany fa sho !!!! ur music is gangsta and ur succesfull every rapper has haters !!every !!
dinamo fuck off i bitchslap u
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You ain't gotta worry.. I'm not going anywhere..
and I will continue to invite other artists to come on DUBCC to chat with yall.. as I have been.
a Few Idiots Don't Stop a Show.. They Just Get Kicked Out The Venue.
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No matter where u go there are always fuckheads like The Krasnoe Dinamo (the guy with a pic of his bitch in his sig).
Thanks for postin on dubcnn, shade. Makes the forum so much better 8)
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You ain't gotta worry.. I'm not going anywhere..
:D
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The guy has a lot of big talk, but he does make dope music and that's all I really care about.
and about that statement... I agree with it actually
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Criticism is all good.. I'm a grown man, I can take it..
but Hating is not to be confused with an opinion!
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lol
This thread was an interesting read....
that's it I ain't got nothin constructive to add....
What up Shade?
You've had success, but Much more to ya in the future!
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Much appreciated.. I always attempt 2 do my best!
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We need more hungry musicians like Shade. I never hear Shade claiming sets like that mark Snoop , just grinding away. Why no REAL sophomore album ? The debut did solid as far debuts go , and was an outstanding effort in general.
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"BTWBTH" was a real sophmore album.. it even released in different versions in different countries.
"What Would U Do" was the lead single.. and I once again charted on Billboard with no deal,
so history was about to repeat itself when unforseen circumstances caused a seperation in the company, yall know the rest...
Folks never fully recognized BTWBTH as my 2nd solo because I spilled the beans that half the lp was "II" leftovers, by why front on yall?
"PNLA" is my 3rd and final installment in my series of solo g-funk albums.
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we need to hear some new Shade & Knoc-turn'al!
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I've been trying to reach out to Knoc to guage his interest in being included in some of this international work!
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I've been trying to reach out to Knoc to guage his interest in being included in some of this international work!
how is that going?
peep this Shade:
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=204779.0
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lmao @ the sheist's groupies,they become sensitive and emotional just to have a nice reply from him.
"hey me and my cousins will visit u in germany fa sho,i hope we can smoke some joints together so i can feel like a true o.g." :D
"u r a known artist,why do u even reply to that fag ? please do a show with crooked I"
more to come :D
And sure,i'm an hater ::)
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lmao @ the sheist's groupies,they become sensitive and emotional just to have a nice reply from him.
"hey me and my cousins will visit u in germany fa sho,i hope we can smoke some joints together so i can feel like a true o.g." :D
"u r a known artist,why do u even reply to that fag ? please do a show with crooked I"
more to come :D
And sure,i'm an hater ::)
LOL, ok now I got somethin constructive to say.....
Yo Dinamo, you are a hater because your comments are snide, not constructive, or objectional....
You are being inherently negative with no evidential base to it.... AKA a hater.....
and for the record, I'm not a big Shade Sheist fan(I like ya music pimp, but I'll admit that I don't own any of it), but at this point I might become one just to spite you!
Don't hate, appreciate pimp... a true hustler knows when to pay attention and learn somethin so that he can advance and do better than his predecessors, Shade Sheist has proven that he can do that, and for that he gets much props from me....
As for anyone else who is a fan of his music (or in your words, a groupie) well.... what? you jealous? stop it... work harder and make them your fans (or in your words, groupies)...
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Shade should jump on a track with knoc and crook
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lmao @ the sheist's groupies,they become sensitive and emotional just to have a nice reply from him.
"hey me and my cousins will visit u in germany fa sho,i hope we can smoke some joints together so i can feel like a true o.g." :D
"u r a known artist,why do u even reply to that fag ? please do a show with crooked I"
more to come :D
And sure,i'm an hater ::)
LOL, ok now I got somethin constructive to say.....
Yo Dinamo, you are a hater because your comments are snide, not constructive, or objectional....
You are being inherently negative with no evidential base to it.... AKA a hater.....
and for the record, I'm not a big Shade Sheist fan(I like ya music pimp, but I'll admit that I don't own any of it), but at this point I might become one just to spite you!
Don't hate, appreciate pimp... a true hustler knows when to pay attention and learn somethin so that he can advance and do better than his predecessors, Shade Sheist has proven that he can do that, and for that he gets much props from me....
I think i'm a hater because i'm not on his nuts,and i'm not negative.....i've just just laughed about what he said during an interview,if you take a look @ the first page you can see that i'm not the one that have talked about damizza,so....i'm not an hater.
I don't give a fuck if you become a big shade sheist fan,i care as much as AZ.
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As for anyone else who is a fan of his music (or in your words, a groupie) well.... what? you jealous? stop it... work harder and make them your fans (or in your words, groupies)...
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jealous ? :D
i wasn't talking about all the fans of his music.....i was referring to some of the posters of this thread :loser:
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Fuck the haters! Shade you the man!
*Bumps where I wanna be*
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lol^another one :D
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It's crazy.. Shade posts here all the time, and answers all our questions. He keeps putting out great music, for free! I can understand if you do not agree with his statement about his debut album, but damn dude, why make a thread about it? This board will be so much better if these threads stop.
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It's crazy.. Shade posts here all the time, and answers all our questions. He keeps putting out great music, for free! I can understand if you do not agree with his statement about his debut album, but damn dude, why make a thread about it? This board will be so much better if these threads stop.
Because,in my opinion,it's a ridiculous statement. You know what's crazy ? With the "artists" in general, if you don't lick their balls 24/7, you're considered an hater. ::)
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It's crazy.. Shade posts here all the time, and answers all our questions. He keeps putting out great music, for free! I can understand if you do not agree with his statement about his debut album, but damn dude, why make a thread about it? This board will be so much better if these threads stop.
Because,in my opinion,it's a ridiculous statement. You know what's crazy ? With the "artists" in general, if you don't lick their balls 24/7, you're considered an hater. ::)
yeah, people are quick to call you a hater, that is true. I can understand if you made a thread and compared the album, song by song to other westcoast classics, that would be a good thread!. But just posting, calling out shade and really not much more, is kind of haterish.
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It's crazy.. Shade posts here all the time, and answers all our questions. He keeps putting out great music, for free! I can understand if you do not agree with his statement about his debut album, but damn dude, why make a thread about it? This board will be so much better if these threads stop.
Because,in my opinion,it's a ridiculous statement. You know what's crazy ? With the "artists" in general, if you don't lick their balls 24/7, you're considered an hater. ::)
yeah, people are quick to call you a hater, that is true. I can understand if you made a thread and compared the album, song by song to other westcoast classics, that would be a good thread!. But just posting, calling out shade and really not much more, is kind of haterish.
Well.....imho his album is not a west coast classic,that's why i don't make a thread and compared the album with other TRUE west coast classics.
But since i'm "talking" with a #1 Billboard Charting Artist/International Indie Icon from Inglewood/one of California's most internationally-known artist,i must praise him 24/7,you know.... ::)
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elaine keeps on losing. give it up.
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elaine keeps on losing. give it up.
es-gay keep on sucking
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LMFAO @ the hardcore dickryders on here..
Shade posts on dubcnn and all of a sudden he's yo favorite rapper? smh..
Shade is aight.. dont big him up to be the G.O.A.T.
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LMFAO @ the hardcore dickryders on here..
Shade posts on dubcnn and all of a sudden he's yo favorite rapper? smh..
you know....they're talkin with a celebrity,they must lick his nuts
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pretty obvious... shits disgusting..
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haha, lets just forget this..
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Don't forget it.. Praise it.
If it's not clear enough... think about this...
FOLX COULD (NOT) BE TALKING ABOUT YOU!
..and to me that's worse than a bunch of did-nothings.. lmao.
I never claimed to be the GOAT.. yall are just running out of shit to say.. figures..
In a debate, the loser always tends to start pullin comments out his ass, ie. John McCain in LOSS.
I've been in the studio (recently) with the majority of the rappers yall talk about in these forums,
I even have convinced some of them to come in here and talk to yall.. yes, even the idiots..
.... I've sat backed and watched yall poppin off about Glasses, Bishop, Crooked as so forth and so on...
and as I said, I won't stop returning.. ...so don't expect the negativity to!
Embrace it.. Cause Hating is 24 Hour Job.. Which Would Explain Why Most of Them Never Acheived Sh*t <<<<
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^how is it going shade trying to knoc some of that int'l work? pm me
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Knoc should move to MIA cause that's where he always ends up!
Holla @ Me..
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lunatic you are OFFTOPIC,you can use the pms
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If people stayed on topic in threads then they would be a lot smaller.any time you see a thread with a few pages its because people are argueing about dumb shit
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lunatic you are OFFTOPIC,you can use the pms
youre the one with PMS you fucking bitch
:sshh: :psych:
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lunatic you are OFFTOPIC,you can use the pms
youre the one with PMS you fucking bitch
:laugh:
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lunatic you are OFFTOPIC,you can use the pms
youre the one with PMS you fucking bitch
:laugh:
:laugh: +1
why did you delete this post?
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HONESTLY KRASNOE WHEN U STATE UR OPINION ACCEPT THAT PEOPLE HAVE THEIR OPINIONS ABOUT YOUR STATEMENT ISNT THAT WHY U ARE POSTING IT IN THE FIRST PLACE? I DONT UNDERSTAND YOU.
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nice to see the usual dumb fuckers kdub and ján itor even in this thread :-* :loser:
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*kicks back, eats popcorn, and observes* 8)
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I did about a good year of promoting off of that single when I was tapped by MCA Records to join their label in 2002. With them I produced one of the best West coast albums to release since the days of Doggystyle and All Eyez on Me.
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http://www.planeturban.com.au/features/interview_shade_sheist
Yeah he did i have absolutly no problem with that statement
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pretty obvious... shits disgusting..
no shit.
last time i look @ this topic or even think mr. sheisty could do anything besides websurf with netnerds to get that buzz.
i'm truely not a hating type dude, but you in the studio with crooked i, glasses, sly boogie, and all these other cats. AND with no serious buzz surrounding you seems to me like a recreation of YOUR craft is in order.
CATCH YA ON THE FLIP SIDE BRAH....AND HAPPY NEW YEAR. GOOD LUCK ON THE FUTURE 8)
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If you don't bother to take the time to really research all that I do.. I'm not here to convince you.
LMAO @ anyone non-industry trying to tell me about a Buzz.. HAHAHAHA...
a Video on Tv and Song on a Radio do not define a Buzz.. FYI..
..an international prescence however, guarantees a steady income.. which is why I still do Music in the 1st place.
yall got me confused with the mainstream-hungry artist I used to be.. ironically, I'm more wealthier now than I was in 00-04.
Drop your opinions on my music... STFU tellin me how to do my business.. know your role in this equation!
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he said since the "days" of Doggystyle and All Eyes On Me...and he's right...his fuckin album was SICK...
Shade is sick man...man has talent... I remember when i first heard WIWB, Money Owners....oh yeah and PAPER PAPER daaaaaamn almost for got about that track. needless to say as a fan of the westcoast i never heard shit like in a while and to the album is still one of my favorites...
keep it up homie and can't wait to hear more dope shit in the future...
when u coming back to canada mang! lmao
be easy shiest!
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Ok This is the future dislike me wit this or love and if you disagree with me shade sorry i know your pyo but it time to get more major ok here it is shade sheist butch cassidy and damizza collabos for the 2009.
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LMAO @ anyone "non-industry" trying to tell me about a Buzz.. HAHAHAHA... Mr. 24 oz.
yall got me confused with a hungry artist I want to be.. ironically, I'm more self confident now than I was in 00-04.
Drop your opinions on my music... and jock my swag!
Is what you wanted to really type. I'm no sucka bro. Just drop a CLASSIC and we'll all feel that hype you want us to peep. Till then... i still feel the same way about you.
ONE!
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we can go all day with this.. the battery in my phone is fully charged..
let's use another example...
With N.U.N.E., we have the #1 radio show on SWURV which is the #1 internet radio station in the world..
which means.. on average.. 2 Million folx worldwide are listening to us weekly..
(You) are ONE individual.
Your uneducated opinion is worth about as much as the money I gave the runner for dinner tonight.
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man. i didnt think this topic would grow so much & into such an argument...
*kicks back, eats popcorn, and observes* 8)
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we can go all day with this.. the battery in my phone is fully charged..
let's use another example...
With N.U.N.E., we have the #1 radio show on SWURV which is the #1 internet radio station in the world..
which means.. on average.. 2 Million folx worldwide are listening to us weekly..
(You) are ONE individual.
Your uneducated opinion is worth about as much as the money I gave the runner for dinner tonight.
SWURVE....is that on shade 45. Cause i know alotta FOLX' are peeping that internet radio shit. SHADE SHEIST let me ask you one thing. WHATS ONE QUALITY SONG YOU'VE PUT OUT IN THE LAST 5 YEARS! GIVE ME ONE SONG TO DOWNLOAD SO I CAN BE PROVED WRONG...
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its war time!!!!!
haha!!!!
we can go all day with this.. the battery in my phone is fully charged..
let's use another example...
With N.U.N.E., we have the #1 radio show on SWURV which is the #1 internet radio station in the world..
which means.. on average.. 2 Million folx worldwide are listening to us weekly..
(You) are ONE individual.
Your uneducated opinion is worth about as much as the money I gave the runner for dinner tonight.
SWURVE....is that on shade 45. Cause i know alotta FOLX' are peeping that internet radio shit. SHADE SHEIST let me ask you one thing. WHATS ONE QUALITY SONG YOU'VE PUT OUT IN THE LAST 5 YEARS! GIVE ME ONE SONG TO DOWNLOAD SO I CAN BE PROVED WRONG...
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(There's no war.. I'm simply making good use of my free time while I wait for delivery..)
Editing your posts... lol.. gotta make sure it's worth sumthin huh..?
"Baby We Can Do It"
"Pull Up Get Out"
"That's Where We From"
"Lights Out!"
and since you said last 5 years.. then I can include "What Would U Do"
another Billboard charting single from 04..
how many more did you need?
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If you don't bother to take the time to really research all that I do.. I'm not here to convince you.
LMAO @ anyone non-industry trying to tell me about a Buzz.. HAHAHAHA...
a Video on Tv and Song on a Radio do not define a Buzz.. FYI..
..an international prescence however, guarantees a steady income.. which is why I still do Music in the 1st place.
yall got me confused with the mainstream-hungry artist I used to be.. ironically, I'm more wealthier now than I was in 00-04.
Drop your opinions on my music... STFU tellin me how to do my business.. know your role in this equation!
This topic is about something you said about your music,but you went crazy.......
It's nice to chat with an open minded internationally-known artist like you ::)
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(There's no war.. I'm simply making good use of my free time while I wait for delivery..)
Editing your posts... lol.. gotta make sure it's worth sumthin huh..?
"Baby We Can Do It"
"Pull Up Get Out"
"That's Where We From"
"Lights Out!"
and since you said last 5 years.. then I can include "What Would U Do"
another Billboard charting single from 04..
how many more did you need?
WENT TO THAT MYSPACE PAGE AND GOTTA SAY YOU GOT OUTSHINED ON EVERY VERSE YOU SPIT DAWG. NO MORE HATE FROM ME. 8)
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lol.. and I wanna thank you personally for helping me clock just over 10K downloads of my YER today!
Keep up the great work!!
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There are A LOT of records better Informal Introduction,i'm feeling embarassed for him.....
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Shade....your not a bad talent. I've had a couple listens and i think your a skilled dude. Stay Up 8)
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" where i wanna be"
Classic is all i gotta say
what up Shade
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Where I Wanna Be was successful due to Nates hook and Kurupt, it could have been any old nobody rapping a 16 on there with them and it would have done the same.
SO FUCKIN TRUE
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Look I never was or ever will be on anybodys nut sack or dick. I am however a huge westcoast rap fan though and maybe I haven't heard a lot from Shade Sheist but what I have heard I have not been disapointed with. With that being said I wanna say thanx to Shade for coming in here to talk to us fans and even the low life ass clowns that love to hate people. Do what you do best Shade and that is make that money and entertain people and how can you be mad at someone for doing whats best for them unless your just a bitch. Anyways good luck on the music thing. Peace
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im on hating or on no ones dick... "where i wanna be" was a good song, but when was it released?.. some 7 years ago? lets face it who still bigs up what they did 7 years ago?.. ur really clutching straws if u do that.. its ok to be cocky if u can back it up with recent performances/work whatever field or industry ur line of work is.... but if ur a commercial rapper and u aint dun shit on a mainstream level for 7 years.. and ur bigging urself up.. then you shouldn't wonder why u get hate from other dudes..
its like dudes who show-off after they've banged a girl everyone else has.. u only gonna get hate for bigging urself up for something which isnt a biggie.. ur gonna b a laughing stock..
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If you don't bother to take the time to really research all that I do.. I'm not here to convince you.
LMAO @ anyone non-industry trying to tell me about a Buzz.. HAHAHAHA...
a Video on Tv and Song on a Radio do not define a Buzz.. FYI..
..an international prescence however, guarantees a steady income.. which is why I still do Music in the 1st place.
yall got me confused with the mainstream-hungry artist I used to be.. ironically, I'm more wealthier now than I was in 00-04.
Drop your opinions on my music... STFU tellin me how to do my business.. know your role in this equation!
What strikes me is that so many rapper have the urge to tell how much money they make whenever a discussion about their music comes up. Sometimes I have the feeling they want to avoid a discussion about their music... It's the usual reflex for criticism
Of course, Elaine's thread was some cheap provocation and not to discuss music , but I wouldn't even repond...
nice to see the usual dumb fuckers kdub and ján itor even in this thread :-* :loser:
u sound mad Elaine... PMS sucks huh?
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im on hating or on no ones dick... "where i wanna be" was a good song, but when was it released?.. some 7 years ago? lets face it who still bigs up what they did 7 years ago?.. ur really clutching straws if u do that.. its ok to be cocky if u can back it up with recent performances/work whatever field or industry ur line of work is.... but if ur a commercial rapper and u aint dun shit on a mainstream level for 7 years.. and ur bigging urself up.. then you shouldn't wonder why u get hate from other dudes..
its like dudes who show-off after they've banged a girl everyone else has.. u only gonna get hate for bigging urself up for something which isnt a biggie.. ur gonna b a laughing stock..
Is Shade a commercial rapper now?
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BE THANKFUL BITCHES. WHEN DUDES LIKE SHADE AND GLASSES COME THROUGH ALL YALL CAN DO IS HATE. FAN COMMUNICATION IS A LOST ART AND YOU ARE SOON REMOVING IT FROM ITS EXISTENCE.
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Is Shade a commercial rapper now?
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no becos he's unable to be... dyu really if he could be commercial.. he wouldnt choose to be? if he knew he cud sell 2 mill an album..do u think he;d say "na nigga i dont wanna sell records, i dont wana make my bread"
lol at thinkig a nigga wud be happy selling 5k on independent
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I'll say it again..
If you've never done anything in this industry, you really have no place to do anything but form an opinion..
but with inaccurate information, you won't be able to make an educated one, thus making a debate with you pointless..
I assist other artists/producers/employees in this industry, so while you may not care for my music, I have influence over individuals that YOU DO like!
..so no matter what you feel, you won't stop hearing from me, so start getting used to it.
It's funny how I'm supposed to be this big talker and I'm so cocky blah blah yet everyone continues to ask me "How?"..
..if I was doing something wrong.. why would anybody want to know how I'm doing it?
Now I know as well as you all know that your points are biased and you just don't like me as a person,
but this is when I say "good thing you're not a relative then!"
My point: If you don't like me (or my music).. Don't appear interested.. Enterting a SS thread only shows that you care!
..and for caring, I will always Thank You!!
P.S. No matter when I dropped my last 'hit' single.. YOU HAVE NEVER DROPPED ONE, AT ANY POINT IN YOUR EXISTENCE!
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Case Closed.
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lol at thinkig a nigga wud be happy selling 5k on independent
I try to restrain.. but damn uneducated folks say some of the dumbest things..
DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY 5K INDIE RECORDS BRINGS IN!!?
now multiply that by 10 and u have the stats for "BTWBTH".. my 1st official independently-released album.
Anybody looking to sign a 'major' deal in today's economic climate is just as dumb as the statement you just made.
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im not hating SS .. i like some of ur songs... i respect ur hustle.. ur still known on the west..
its just that on a mainstream level.. since informal intro.. well nothing personal.. but u aint been visible worldwide.. granted u had a hit record and got worldwide exposure.. but id rather see the west coast as a major player in the hip hop.. with 4-5 big hitters coming out every year goin multi-plat.. where is the west's equivalent of TI, Kanye, Lil'Wayne?? i mean like in the 21st century all we've had really is The Game as a new rapper whose comin out and goin multi platinum.. even now since Dre stopped fuckin wid him.. his beats have gone downhill..
i mean like outside the west people are like "what happened to Knoc and sheist?" .. these are people that actually liked "where i wanna be" or "the knoc ft missy"... what we wanna see is artists with longevity :)
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In the UK Where I Wanna Be is played a hell of alot, still.
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NORTH AMERICA
SOUTH AMERICA
THE UNITED KINGDOM
JAPAN
TAIWAN
CANADA
GREECE
SPAIN
Just some of the countries I have and continue to perform in..
..that looks to be about.. hmmm.... ALL OF THE MAJOR ONES!
so yeah.. I aint really been visible worldwide.. I just have toured more than every other WC artist outside of Snoop. ;D
(would've said Tech9ne but then yall would say "he ain't westcoast" lmao)
2). Every single I dropped while mainstream charted on Billboard. "Where I Wanna Be" was the biggest.
You only refer to WIWB yet "John Doe" and "Wake Up" acheived a very similar success
as did "Money Owners" and "What Would U Do"..
We could also talk about 'Shady Montage' but some of you weren't even born yet!
**And I'm Not Bragging.. Just Stating The Facts.. Cause You Asked For It**
and furthermore.. I've never wanted the title you speak of..
as I stated on my track "I'm Still Here" - "I ain't tryna to be the King but I'm cool with being close."
I'm not no Westcoast savior.. I just do my part to ensure the West reaches outside of the USA. That's it.
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I don't see what's wrong with that statement. Other than couple of albums from Xzibit, Game and Eastsidaz I can't think of any better albums. I bought it back in the 02 I think and it was money well spent. I don't think Shade is anything special lyrically but he is a good songwriter, like 50 or Snoop, he knows how to make hits. That statement about replacing any other rapper with him on Where I Wanna Be is completley retarted. Last time I heard him was on Lights Out and it looks like he still got it.
Anyways, what's this "BTWBTH" I keep hearing about ?
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^that is his sophomore album
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^that is his sophomore album
It's a dope one for that... Sure, he's not my favorite rapper and you can say and think about Shade Sheist what you want, but he does release good music. To be honest I can't think of any SS song that I dislike.
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I don't think Shade is anything special lyrically but he is a good songwriter, like 50 or Snoop, he knows how to make hits.
This is an example of true criticism. A statement I can actually use to better myself and my art.
That statement about replacing any other rapper with him on Where I Wanna Be is completley retarted.
We don't trip on statements like this.
According to everyone, they could've also had Kobe's draft pick if they only played basketball! LMAO.
Sure, he's not my favorite rapper and you can say and think about Shade Sheist what you want, but he does release good music.
Again.. constructive criticism.
I'm not looking to hear that everything I do is great. I wanna know what you think!
Yo Pen.. that lil piece at the end of my "2008 Year-End Review" was for you. Merry Xmas.. LoL.
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I had no idea you had a sophomore album, I need to check that out.
Anways, that statement wasn't really critisizm, good songwriters are a rare breed in these days. You have these mixtape rappers who are lyrical as hell but can't write a good song if their life depended on it.
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Very true.
The thing folks don't realize about me is that I am a true artist in every sense of the word.
-I don't just get a beat cd and then rap on top..
-I work with my producers, I co-produce..
-I choose my guest appearances based on who ( I ) think would sound best on a track..
-I mix myself or sit in on both the mixing and mastering sessions..
I learned from the best from watching the best. Dr.Dre, Dj Quik, Timbaland, Teddy Riley, Nate Dogg,
all of them gave me constructive criticism I still use to this day to better myself..
I might come off a bit braggadocious but I'm a cat that's been around these parts since 93..
I just feel blessed.. Sue Me!
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Yo Pen.. that lil piece at the end of my "2008 Year-End Review" was for you. Merry Xmas.. LoL.
Less than 10 seconds of a track, but that sounded good. In fact: it sounded great ;D Thanks 8) What's the name of that song?
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Very true.
The thing folks don't realize about me is that I am a true artist in every sense of the word.
-I don't just get a beat cd and then rap on top..
-I work with my producers, I co-produce..
-I choose my guest appearances based on who ( I ) think would sound best on a track..
-I mix myself or sit in on both the mixing and mastering sessions..
I learned from the best from watching the best. Dr.Dre, Dj Quik, Timbaland, Teddy Riley, Nate Dogg,
all of them gave me constructive criticism I still use to this day to better myself..
I might come off a bit braggadocious but I'm a cat that's been around these parts since 93..
I just feel blessed.. Sue Me!
Man, I ain't seen/heard that word for years! LMAO
You're an intelligent dude, and I hope this question doesn't turn out to be ignorant, but do you do any political or so-called "conscious" tracks? I don't know your catalog nearly as well as any of these folks in this thread, so forgive the question....
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I had no idea you had a sophomore album, I need to check that out.
1. (I Got) What U Need Ft. Damizza & LT Hutton
2. I'm Still Here Ft. N.U.N.E
3. Makes Me Wanna Fuck You Ft. Knoc-Turn'Al & N.U.N.E
4. Enjoy Myself Ft. Knoc-Turn'Al & Jayo Felony
5. Bigger Than Rap Ft. Jayo Felony, Kurupt, Y.A
6. What Would U Do Ft. N.U.N.E, Nate Dogg, Mariah Carey
7. Not From
8. Stack Bangin' Ft. Mack 10 & Techniec
9. X The Club Up Ft. Fingazz & The Goodfellas
10. Paper Paper Ft. Bone Thugs-N-Harmony
11. R.I.C.O Gangstas Ft. Kurupt
12. Makes Me Wanna Fuck You (Remix) Ft. Knoc-Turn'Al
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I had no idea you had a sophomore album, I need to check that out.
1. (I Got) What U Need Ft. Damizza & LT Hutton
2. I'm Still Here Ft. N.U.N.E
3. Makes Me Wanna Fuck You Ft. Knoc-Turn'Al & N.U.N.E
4. Enjoy Myself Ft. Knoc-Turn'Al & Jayo Felony
5. Bigger Than Rap Ft. Jayo Felony, Kurupt, Y.A
6. What Would U Do Ft. N.U.N.E, Nate Dogg, Mariah Carey
7. Not From
8. Stack Bangin' Ft. Mack 10 & Techniec
9. X The Club Up Ft. Fingazz & The Goodfellas
10. Paper Paper Ft. Bone Thugs-N-Harmony
11. R.I.C.O Gangstas Ft. Kurupt
12. Makes Me Wanna Fuck You (Remix) Ft. Knoc-Turn'Al
that negro Meho needs to check The Vault more often
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I had no idea you had a sophomore album, I need to check that out.
1. (I Got) What U Need Ft. Damizza & LT Hutton
2. I'm Still Here Ft. N.U.N.E
3. Makes Me Wanna Fuck You Ft. Knoc-Turn'Al & N.U.N.E
4. Enjoy Myself Ft. Knoc-Turn'Al & Jayo Felony
5. Bigger Than Rap Ft. Jayo Felony, Kurupt, Y.A
6. What Would U Do Ft. N.U.N.E, Nate Dogg, Mariah Carey
7. Not From
8. Stack Bangin' Ft. Mack 10 & Techniec
9. X The Club Up Ft. Fingazz & The Goodfellas
10. Paper Paper Ft. Bone Thugs-N-Harmony
11. R.I.C.O Gangstas Ft. Kurupt
12. Makes Me Wanna Fuck You (Remix) Ft. Knoc-Turn'Al
that negro Meho needs to check The Vault more often
LOL! Meho is the shit :P I'm sure he'll check out the album, I think he'll be feeling that tracklisting 8)
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wow for some reason i dont see the album credited in the vault ???
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LOL! Meho is the shit :P I'm sure he'll check out the album, I think he'll be feeling that tracklisting 8)
All Meho needs is my opinion. :-*
wow for some reason i dont see the album credited in the vault ???
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=204810.0
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damn, i am going to bump BTWBTH right now 8)
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You're an intelligent dude, and I hope this question doesn't turn out to be ignorant, but do you do any political or so-called "conscious" tracks?
Not full-on conscious.. I can't lie.. I'm a product of G-Funk!
I did it more as 'Shady Montage'.. one track I recorded with Lord G, "Real Street Blues" stands out..
I let Bishop Lamont hold down the "Souls of Mischief" seat.. whereas I wanna sit in the Quik section.
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Less than 10 seconds of a track, but that sounded good. In fact: it sounded great ;D Thanks 8) What's the name of that song?
"All Nite Long" from my forthcoming 3rd solo lp "PNLA".
wow for some reason i dont see the album credited in the vault ???
Just updated it.
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Keep doing your thang , you're a good rapper .. the fact that you take time to chat with the fans and not being sensitive about potential criticism has to be hugely respected ...
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DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY 5K INDIE RECORDS BRINGS IN!!?
now multiply that by 10 and u have the stats for "BTWBTH".. my 1st official independently-released album.
no,school me.
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I had no idea you had a sophomore album, I need to check that out.
1. (I Got) What U Need Ft. Damizza & LT Hutton
2. I'm Still Here Ft. N.U.N.E
3. Makes Me Wanna Fuck You Ft. Knoc-Turn'Al & N.U.N.E
4. Enjoy Myself Ft. Knoc-Turn'Al & Jayo Felony
5. Bigger Than Rap Ft. Jayo Felony, Kurupt, Y.A
6. What Would U Do Ft. N.U.N.E, Nate Dogg, Mariah Carey
7. Not From
8. Stack Bangin' Ft. Mack 10 & Techniec
9. X The Club Up Ft. Fingazz & The Goodfellas
10. Paper Paper Ft. Bone Thugs-N-Harmony
11. R.I.C.O Gangstas Ft. Kurupt
12. Makes Me Wanna Fuck You (Remix) Ft. Knoc-Turn'Al
Love this track 8)
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how many did Informal Introduction sell?
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Constructive Criticism:
I bought the album Informal Introduction and I really liked it mainly cause of the features and the production.
When I first heard Shade Sheist , I was like this cat is cool , laid back flow , im feeling it.
But after a while it got on my nerves.
Shade´s flow is like hes hiding a secret. Always whispering, like a spy-rapper.
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DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY 5K INDIE RECORDS BRINGS IN!!?
now multiply that by 10 and u have the stats for "BTWBTH".. my 1st official independently-released album.
no,school me.
im not sure but i think $5 for each cd.. while rappers like game get $1... correct me if im wrong
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I'ma add to your's since your's is almost like mine:
I think he's got talent (possible mainstream appeal, more than crooked but less than game)
but like you mentioned main reasons I was feelin his album is cuz of the features and production.
IMO he choose a bad single, and that shit was str8 up jus a bad song. but then again the album didnt really have a commercial hit on it as some would say.
as for his style-I mena its unique and some fans like it, some dont. I think he can spit and I'd say he's better than Damizza as a rapper on rapper comparison.
Constructive Criticism:
I bought the album Informal Introduction and I really liked it mainly cause of the features and the production.
When I first heard Shade Sheist , I was like this cat is cool , laid back flow , im feeling it.
But after a while it got on my nerves.
Shade´s flow is like hes hiding a secret. Always whispering, like a spy-rapper.
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it would be better to go independent after uve released a few non-independent albums i.e Cube ..
now whilst game gets less per CD.. becos of the greater exposure .. he can make money thru other ventures which can make u probably more money then rap.. ie acting, video game, sneakers, clothing line...
look at like Will Smith & Ice Cube, in some of there recent films theyve probably made more money then in royalties for all of there rap careers especailly when u consider the the fact that Smith & Cube direct/produce/write/co-write in many of their films too..
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it would be better to go independent after uve released a few non-independent albums i.e Cube ..
now whilst game gets less per CD.. becos of the greater exposure .. he can make money thru other ventures which can make u probably more money then rap.. ie acting, video game, sneakers, clothing line...
look at like Will Smith & Ice Cube, in some of there recent films theyve probably made more money then in royalties for all of there rap careers especailly when u consider the the fact that Smith & Cube direct/produce/write/co-write in many of their films too..
will smith and ice cube are in completely different leagues
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it would be better to go independent after uve released a few non-independent albums i.e Cube ..
now whilst game gets less per CD.. becos of the greater exposure .. he can make money thru other ventures which can make u probably more money then rap.. ie acting, video game, sneakers, clothing line...
look at like Will Smith & Ice Cube, in some of there recent films theyve probably made more money then in royalties for all of there rap careers especailly when u consider the the fact that Smith & Cube direct/produce/write/co-write in many of their films too..
thier nor there yo
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DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY 5K INDIE RECORDS BRINGS IN!!?
now multiply that by 10 and u have the stats for "BTWBTH".. my 1st official independently-released album.
no,school me.
im not sure but i think $5 for each cd.. while rappers like game get $1... correct me if im wrong
Rappers on majors barely make money off record sales. Tours, merchandise, etc. is important for their pockets. They should be happy with a few cents per sold unit.
Independent rappers get like 5 to 9 bucks per sold unit, depending on their contract(s). Internet sales make them more money than physical sales. Go figure.
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DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY 5K INDIE RECORDS BRINGS IN!!?
now multiply that by 10 and u have the stats for "BTWBTH".. my 1st official independently-released album.
no,school me.
im not sure but i think $5 for each cd.. while rappers like game get $1... correct me if im wrong
ya i know
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this is one of the most entertaining things ive ever read on the internet. nice job shade 8).
was your second album officially released? i never knew it existed and i was thinking about copping it last night but its only digital on amazon. guest spots and production credits look nice as hell.
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You can get it digitally or purchase a DOD physical disc of it from: www.PutYourselfOut.net (http://www.PutYourselfOut.net)
as for sales, you are pretty much correct.. The majors will leave you with $1 a unit (what I got for II)..
Independently however, depending on the project, I can earn anywhere from $5 (minimum) to $9 (maximum)..
BTWBTH and NUNETIME brought us the most operational capital we ever seen in 2005 and then the
06.06.06 free release of "GTA3" caused a relapse in sales of both.. providing for the 2007 year.
The beauty of independent sales is that even years later.. you still collect that $5 a unit, not the typical $1..
so I can still promote an older release and end up with unexpected change just cause a new interview released or
somebody was talking about me in a store, on the forums (lmao) etc.. Majors stop promoting after a "cut-off" point..
Indie has no "cut-off"... Indie has no real rules, for that matter!
...and indeed the trick is to gain mainstream appeal and then go independent..
It is for this reason I am able to keep touring internationally while most other artists are stuck in their backyards!
PUT YOURSELF OUT.
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Shade.. my bad if uve already answered this question, but other then the Str8 west coast remix.. what tracks have u done with Dre either rapping or ghost writing.. i know cos of legal implications u mite not be allowed to say certain tracks, but which ones can u tell us about?
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Shade.. my bad if uve already answered this question, but other then the Str8 west coast remix.. what tracks have u done with Dre either rapping or ghost writing.. i know cos of legal implications u mite not be allowed to say certain tracks, but which ones can u tell us about?
I have answered this but it's all good..
This is Dr. Dre we are talking about.. so if you can't mention one you can't mention any!
a typical disclosure agreement lasts upwards 10 years.. just FYI..
Publishers commonly use them to protect publishing information..
in some instances you may receive a performance fee and sign a confidentiality agreement in return for your work.
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hey sheis thanks to all those indie sales now you live in a mansion in beverly park or in calabasas near travis barker ?
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man a lot of your fav. artists on the west (and PERIOD) are struggling to make ends meat in the industry right now...this guy is on his fucking grind why can't anyone respect someone's hustle...this guy is touring, making music, etc. ... and making a living off of this shit...the guy has a lot of industry knowledge telling by his posts and just off knowing his past....man a few of you guys hating would be better trying to network with dude instead of trying to hate so hard lol
all i know is i'd sure like to be touring the world doing what i love and making cash...even if it was decent cash...
anyways...the guy is at least coming in the forums and providing us all with some entertainment....thats more than even some of my fav. artists who have more time to waste and are prolly making less money...lol
thanks mang!
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hate ? ::)
i've started a thread about what he said during an interview.
there's no hate from me
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^what was your intention then?
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yeah I saw it as a opinion or givin thoughts
hate ? ::)
i've started a thread about what he said during an interview.
there's no hate from me
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too bad this topic has been ruined by shade sheist.....
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hey sheis thanks to all those indie sales now you live in a mansion in beverly park or in calabasas near travis barker ?
LMFAO