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ARTIST: Mobb Deep
TITLE: Blood Money
LABEL: G-Unit/Interscope
GENRE: Rap
BITRATE: 199kbps avg
PLAYTIME: 0h 59min total
RELEASE DATE: 2006-05-02
RIP DATE: 2006-04-19
Track List
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01. Smoke It 2:57
02. Put Em In Their Place 3:56
03. Stole Something (Feat. Lloyd 3:57
Banks)
04. Creep (Feat. 50 Cent) 4:01
05. Speakin So Freely 3:11
06. Backstage Pass 3:05
07. Give It To Me (Feat. Young 3:08
Buck)
08. Click Click (Feat. Tony Yayo) 4:25
09. Pearly Gates (Feat. 50 Cent) 4:16
10. Capital P, Capital H 4:15
11. Daydreamin' 3:07
12. The Infamous (Feat. 50 Cent) 3:53
13. In Love With The Moula 3:13
14. It's Alright (Feat. 50 Cent & 4:25
Mary J. Blige)
15. Have A Party (Feat. 50 Cent & 4:00
Nate Dogg)
16. Outta Control (Remix) (Feat. 4:07
50 Cent)
Release Notes:
Blood Money marks the 7th release by Mobb Deep. This doesn’t include solo
efforts like Prodigy’s critically acclaimed solo effort, H.N.I.C, in 2002 or
their made-for-the-streets mix-tape album. It does however signal a new
chapter in Havoc and Prodigy’s rise from New York City mainstays to
international rap delegates.
If anyone wants it, PM me
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50 on 6 songs haha.
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9 G-unit features out of 16 songs...that must be an ultimate record! What a joke.
Anyway, the bosses at Interscope are probably getting furious right now because of the leak.
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9 G-unit features out of 16 songs...that must be an ultimate record! What a joke.
Anyway, the bosses at Interscope are probably getting furious right now because of the leak.
Well Outta Control and Have A Party are meant to be bonus tracls.
And they wont be too happy but I think they preticted it,since Havoc and P will be playing songs from BM on Sirius radio on staurday.
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doesn't make difference cant see too many people buying this shit.
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At track 4 so far. Has that dark, grimey eastcoast sound to it. Loving the Havoc production, but wtf is the beat for Creep :D
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I won't even bother listenin' 2 it...
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Where the hell is Nightmares? Is it just renamed something else? Or maybe they are gonna wait about 4 months and re-release the album with the beat on there? Maybe 50 decided he was gonna keep the beat?
That song was the only thing I wanted to hear, and thats just cuz I wanted to hear a new Dre beat. This album will be garbage.
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i want this :)
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Nightmares is Creep.
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After the 1st listen I am very pleased. The LP has that dark,grimey eastcoast feel to it. Havoc did his thing on the boards. As usuall he is ripping his verses too, P sucks though.
Wack tracks:
Captila P, Capital H
Creep (becuase of the wierd beat)
Give It To Me
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gonna get this, glad to hear its got that grimey eastcoast feel.
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NVM. Creep was produced by Havoc. My bad.
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fuck it, ill give it a shot
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fuck it, ill give it a shot
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Really curious how Mobb will do on their first G-Unit album, though my hopes aren't very high I'm sure gonna listen to it!
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i think if there's a dre track on the album, daydreamin' is probably it... it sounds kind of like "g'd up," uses some of the same instruments, the beat has a very "full" sound, and is structured in a pretty complex way
EDIT: people who got the credits are saying sha money did daydreamin, and that dre did creep. ???
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Uh, okay. I might as well give it a shot, after hearing all those positive opinions. Still don't have my hopes up high, but I guess it's worth a try.
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After one listen , a good album, I'd say a 3.5 album, 2-3 fillers (including the wack Creep). The G Unit influence is undeniable but there are still some grimey songs.... This gonna have a lot of hate though...
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50 on 6 songs haha.
Only 4 of which are new songs, tho.
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Wooooow... I had this release pegged as DOA for a few weeks but some part of me still held out hope that maybe, maybe the mobb and interscope would rearrange a few things to keep this half/half but this is worse than even I thought. This is a G-unit compilation featuring Mobb Deep!?! :'(
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EDIT: people who got the credits are saying sha money did daydreamin, and that dre did creep. ???
Maybe it's a similar situation to Game's "Don't Need Your Love" where Havoc did the beat, sent it to Game, and then Dre refined it? Except vice-versa this time?
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No way Dre did Creep.
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+1
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good album
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this album is pretty good. not hella great, i wouldnt buy it. but a cd-r is going to be in my car for a little.
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No way Dre did Creep.
I dunno, I ain't heard it yet, but P and Hav both said that the song (when it was still called "Nightmares") wouldn't sound anything like a Dre beat. I could be wrong, but it's just impossible for me to think a Dre beat would fail to make the cut for the album. The fact that all of the reviewers who got to hear this album first mentioned hearing the song means it's gotta be somewhere...
Where the hell is Nightmares? Is it just renamed something else? Or maybe they are gonna wait about 4 months and re-release the album with the beat on there? Maybe 50 decided he was gonna keep the beat?
Damn, nigga, youre still on this "50 stealing hot beats for himself" shit? Somebody already proved in the other topic that Dre gave the "Outta Control" remix beat to 50 first, not P and Hav.
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PMs sent, hope I sent them to you all.
you forgot me
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BLOOD MONEY = ABSOLUTE GARBAGE
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BLOOD MONEY = ABSOLUTE GARBAGE
i thought so.. still wanna give it a listen
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OK, be warned (in case you care): 50 appears on "Backstage Pass" even tho it's not listed. Only for like 5 seconds, tho.
So far, I'm alright with it...it ain't "The Infamous" (which isn't what I was expecting, anyway), but it lives up to G-Unit standards in terms of production and lyrics, so it's at least satisfying.
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LMAO that creep beat sounds like those racks I used for math when i was like 8 or somethin
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shit sound good in the car///
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Aiight, I'm up to the two bonus tracks, which I've already heard, so here's my impressions:
Pros:
-It's hardly pop at all (like everyone was scared would be the case), definitely the most street album ever to come outta G-Unit
-The production is some of the best they've ever had, even if it ain't necesarily what suits their style best
-Havoc comes through on this album on both the rhymes and the beats, which is important because he's better than P now, obviously
-Overall, it's definitely an improvement over "Infamy" and even "Amerikaz Nightmare" (which I actually thought was decent, in spite of all the hate it got)
Cons:
-It's still a major step down from "The Infamous" days - that is, no grimy street narratives or dope battle raps (but then again, that ain't what I was expecting)
-P is still lazy and gets easily outshined by Havoc and even 50 (plus, he can't seem to shut the fuck up about how rich they are now that they're on G-Unit)
-Even if it's not pop the way most of 50's club joints are, there's a lot of commercialism on here (references to cars and jewels and shit)
-There are definitely some weaker tracks
DOPE songs: "Stole Something", "Daydreamin", "The Infamous", "In Love With The Moula"
Songs I was feeling: "Smoke It", "Put Em In They Place", "Give It To Me", "Click Click", "Capital P, Capital H", "It's Alright"
Songs I wasn't feeling: "Creep", "Speakin So Freely", "Backstage Pass", "Pearly Gates"
Overall: 3.5 out of 5 sounds about right. I'm still really dissappointed about "Nightmares" being left off, but all I can say is, maybe it was for the better if the song turned out wack...then it would just ruin the album for us.
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^^^^ that's a very good review imo, think almost the same about this album 8)
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OK, I just noticed Havoc says "My daydreams are more like nightmares" on "Daydreamin'. Hmmm...still sounds absolutely nothing like a Dre beat, but it is one of the best songs on the album.
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the album should be called "Featuring 50 Cent"
that track with Mary J. Blige is nice, but I don't see why 50 had to be on that.
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OK, if you go to http://www.myspace.com/chadbeatz, it lists "Daydreamin" under his production credits, so I guess it's confirmed that he didn't do this song. Excellent beat, tho, arguably better than anything Havoc did on this album.
the album should be called "Featuring 50 Cent"
that track with Mary J. Blige is nice, but I don't see why 50 had to be on that.
Who cares, as long as he still lets Mobb Deep do Mobb Deep. And you gotta give him credit, he did just that.
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Can anyone hook up that Nightmares track?
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You can end the producer speculation, dunno why y'all speculating and gossiping when The Vault is right in front of your nose. :grumpy:
Advance tracklist/producers: http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=106539.0
Retail tracklist/producers: http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=108017.0
And "Nightmares" haven't leaked Nice Guy.
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BLOOD MONEY = ABSOLUTE GARBAGE
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looks like Mobb Deep got Dre beats just like Banks, Buck and Yayo :laugh:
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actually , i like this album on a first listen 8) only the creep song is wack the rest is kinda dope, i think imma show this some love acutally..
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Normally, I don't download albums but I decided I'ma do so with this one. Anyone with a link to it?
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besides Capital P/H, Stole Something and Give It To Me...this album blows even by Gunit standards
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Somebody hook me up too 8)
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No way Dre did Creep.
YEAH BOOOOIIIIIIIIIIII!!!! That's Dre's new direction for Detox!
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I appreciate the hookup, but still... I'm not feeling this album at all! It got some nice tracks, but overall I think it sucks. And I really dont think it got any Dre productions, nothing sounds like anything Dre would make
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Taken from the latest issue of Scratch...
Creep f\ 50 Cent Produced by Havoc
Havoc: "I bought that record overseas. Me and Alchemist, whenever we are overseas, we find the record stores and we be digging. I found that record, an Indian record. It was the type of record that if you didn't listen to the whole thing, you wouldn't have found the sample. And that shit sounded different to me. Even when I hear it, I'm still trying to wonder what kind of fuckin' instrument is that. I sat in the studio listening to that for about five hours, just zoning."
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i knew it was an Indian instrument, the instrument that makes that weird noise is called a "tabla"
dude should have phoned me instead of stressin himself :nawty:
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Hookup anyone ???
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Hookup anyone ???
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OK, I listened to this album again in the erg room today, since I was the only dude there and I didn't have to worry about the other rowers fighting over the stereo with me. Overall, I'm still reasonably satisfied with this album, even if it ain't up to "Infamous"/"Hell On Earth" standards. The main thing that's kinda surprising is that a lot of the production kinda grows on you...there's far more layers on each track than you think, and the choice of samples is definitely interesting (although I admit "Creep" just still doesn't work for me). As far as lyrics, go, tho...I put on "Survival of the Fittest" immediately when I got back, and I'm longing for something like that from P and Hav again.
At the very least, I'm happy Mobb Deep stuck to what they do best (gritty street shit), not what they do worst (crossover club joints). On the other hand, I do wonder how well this album's gonna sell when it comes out. I'm pretty sure I'll buy it, but that's cause I'm a Mobb fan. I dunno how the rest of the public's gonna feel, tho...everything on this album seems a bit too dark to cross over besides "Put 'Em In They Place" and maybe "It's Alright." The fact that "Put 'Em In They Place" doesn't seem to be charting ain't a good sign for them, either.
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At the very least, I'm happy Mobb Deep stuck to what they do best (gritty street shit), not what they do worst (crossover club joints). On the other hand, I do wonder how well this album's gonna sell when it comes out. I'm pretty sure I'll buy it, but that's cause I'm a Mobb fan. I dunno how the rest of the public's gonna feel, tho...everything on this album seems a bit too dark to cross over besides "Put 'Em In They Place" and maybe "It's Alright." The fact that "Put 'Em In They Place" doesn't seem to be charting ain't a good sign for them, either.
Yep, Im glad they kept that Mobb sound. I have a feeling this album is a grower.
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At the very least, I'm happy Mobb Deep stuck to what they do best (gritty street shit), not what they do worst (crossover club joints). On the other hand, I do wonder how well this album's gonna sell when it comes out. I'm pretty sure I'll buy it, but that's cause I'm a Mobb fan. I dunno how the rest of the public's gonna feel, tho...everything on this album seems a bit too dark to cross over besides "Put 'Em In They Place" and maybe "It's Alright." The fact that "Put 'Em In They Place" doesn't seem to be charting ain't a good sign for them, either.
Yep, Im glad they kept that Mobb sound. I have a feeling this album is a grower.
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Props for the hookup, Detox... 8)
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Sent you a message half hour ago. Props if you send the album.
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Propz on the hookup detox, Im gonna give it a listen
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first three songs are coo, creep is wack, im gonna keep listening to the album though
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I could be wrong, but it's just impossible for me to think a Dre beat would fail to make the cut for the album.
You mean like how you believe 50 had the OC remix the whole time but it failed to make the original pressing? LMAO!
Damn, nigga, youre still on this "50 stealing hot beats for himself" shit? Somebody already proved in the other topic that Dre gave the "Outta Control" remix beat to 50 first, not P and Hav.
Nobody proved shit. It's all on who you believe - Hav said it was given to Mobb Deep. 50 allegedly said he had it all along at Making the Video or whatever. So it's all on who is more credible.
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i actually like creep i think it might grow on me in a bit
giving my first listen right now
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this shit is garbage...im only feelin about 3 songs outta the whole album...
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So "Give It to me" is a single??!
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You mean like how you believe 50 had the OC remix the whole time but it failed to make the original pressing? LMAO!
You do realize he held back "Talk About Me" from the "The Massacre", and that's also a Dre beat? Not to mention there was also that song "In The Hood" from the bonus disc of the "New Breed" DVD; that was a Dre beat that failed to make "Get Rich Or Die Tryin". So yeah, it's quite possible.
Nobody proved shit. It's all on who you believe - Hav said it was given to Mobb Deep. 50 allegedly said he had it all along at Making the Video or whatever. So it's all on who is more credible.
Maybe you just shouldn't be taking Hav's words so literally. It makes a lot more sense than your theory that 50 signed Mobb Deep just so that he could jack a Dre beat from them (not to mention that it don't make sense Dre would even toss them a beat in the first place when he had ZERO working relationship with them before they were on G-Unit).
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You mean like how you believe 50 had the OC remix the whole time but it failed to make the original pressing? LMAO!
You do realize he held back "Talk About Me" from the "The Massacre", and that's also a Dre beat? Not to mention there was also that song "In The Hood" from the bonus disc of the "New Breed" DVD; that was a Dre beat that failed to make "Get Rich Or Die Tryin". So yeah, it's quite possible.
Yes, but those were never released as singles.
Nobody proved shit. It's all on who you believe - Hav said it was given to Mobb Deep. 50 allegedly said he had it all along at Making the Video or whatever. So it's all on who is more credible.
Maybe you just shouldn't be taking Hav's words so literally. It makes a lot more sense than your theory that 50 signed Mobb Deep just so that he could jack a Dre beat from them (not to mention that it don't make sense Dre would even toss them a beat in the first place when he had ZERO working relationship with them before they were on G-Unit).
Maybe you shouldn't take 50's words so literally. It goes both ways. I believe Hav, You believe 50. Anyways, when is this supposed to drop in stores? Is it like 2 weeks? I wonder if it'll fade as quickly as Yayo's album? I'm actually hoping it does so 50 drops them, then maybe I can buy their next album and not have to worry about hearing fucking G-Unit all over it.
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Yes, but those were never released as singles.
Why does that matter?
Maybe you shouldn't take 50's words so literally. It goes both ways. I believe Hav, You believe 50.
I believe 50 because what he says makes far more sense than your bullshit theory. Especially given your vehemently anti-G-Unit bias.
Anyways, when is this supposed to drop in stores? Is it like 2 weeks? I wonder if it'll fade as quickly as Yayo's album? I'm actually hoping it does so 50 drops them, then maybe I can buy their next album and not have to worry about hearing fucking G-Unit all over it.
Well, you can have your opinion, but I don't see how a supposed fan of any group can want them to fail, especially a group like Mobb Deep which has been putting in so much work for so long and yet has been rewarded with so little success.
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They completely edited out p's verse on pearly gates. So far i got mixed opinions on it. The songs that are good are gems and the songs that arent that good really arent good at all. Im statisfied with it so far.
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Can someone please hook me up 8)
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Why does that matter?
Because OC remix was a single.
I believe 50 because what he says makes far more sense than your bullshit theory. Especially given your vehemently anti-G-Unit bias.
Well I believe Havoc over 50. Big fuckin deal. And what exactly is your theory? That 50 really likes Hav and P, and wants to help them out cuz he's a nice guy? NEGRO PLEASE. And again, I'm not anti G-Unit. I'm anti having G-Unit on over half of a MOBB DEEP album. Why is that concept so fuckin hard for you to grasp? You seem like an intelligent guy (albeit an intelligent guy with a hard on for 50 cent).
Well, you can have your opinion, but I don't see how a supposed fan of any group can want them to fail, especially a group like Mobb Deep which has been putting in so much work for so long and yet has been rewarded with so little success.
You're horrible at taking quotes out of text, and makes me not want to waste time arguing with you. I said I hope this album flops so I can get a Mobb Deep album without G-Unit all over it. So don't be twistin words.
Let me ask you this, would you be in favor of every rap artist signing to G-Unit? Yes, they'd probably get more exposure, but at what cost? I want a new Tribe album - haven't had one in 8 years. If they signed to G-Unit, and had 50, buck, banks, yayo on over half the album i think I would literally vomit. And I wouldn't support it on principal alone. That's not hating, thats having a shred of integrity. If thats the only way I get them back, then I don't want it. If I want to hear Yayo, 50, Buck, and Banks, I'll cop their shit - Not Mobb Deep.
They've already been Gold and Platinum artists. They've dropped albums that many heads consider to be CLASSIC. They didn't need 50 cent to do all that. I wouldn't mind one 50 cent cameo on the album, or hell even a posse cut a la "Mobb Unit" or something. They had a fuckin Lil Jon beat on AN. I wasn't really feelin it, but its not like they had his ass screamin up and down all over the album. And they coulda done that and probably had some success because at the time, Lil Jon was EVERYWHERE. But whoring themselves by putting out an album like this is a joke. I'm not supporting this bullshit.
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sounds ok, ima bout half way through it, my favorite track is Speaking so Freely so far but Im only hearing it over my computer speakers which are pretty weak....I gotta agree that Havoc has surpassed Prodigy by alot, and I dont feel P at all anymore. Im not really seeing the grimey street feel, alot of the beats are softer than anything theve done, which is no problem to me but i dont see this as a grimey record
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Ive listened to half of it aswell, only really like 2 out of the first 9 tracks. Not very impressed at all
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song 13 has a dope ass beat but the concept feels rushed.
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Why does that matter?
Because OC remix was a single.
I believe 50 because what he says makes far more sense than your bullshit theory. Especially given your vehemently anti-G-Unit bias.
Well I believe Havoc over 50. Big fuckin deal. And what exactly is your theory? That 50 really likes Hav and P, and wants to help them out cuz he's a nice guy? NEGRO PLEASE. And again, I'm not anti G-Unit. I'm anti having G-Unit on over half of a MOBB DEEP album. Why is that concept so fuckin hard for you to grasp? You seem like an intelligent guy (albeit an intelligent guy with a hard on for 50 cent).
Well, you can have your opinion, but I don't see how a supposed fan of any group can want them to fail, especially a group like Mobb Deep which has been putting in so much work for so long and yet has been rewarded with so little success.
You're horrible at taking quotes out of text, and makes me not want to waste time arguing with you. I said I hope this album flops so I can get a Mobb Deep album without G-Unit all over it. So don't be twistin words.
Let me ask you this, would you be in favor of every rap artist signing to G-Unit? Yes, they'd probably get more exposure, but at what cost? I want a new Tribe album - haven't had one in 8 years. If they signed to G-Unit, and had 50, buck, banks, yayo on over half the album i think I would literally vomit. And I wouldn't support it on principal alone. That's not hating, thats having a shred of integrity. If thats the only way I get them back, then I don't want it. If I want to hear Yayo, 50, Buck, and Banks, I'll cop their shit - Not Mobb Deep.
They've already been Gold and Platinum artists. They've dropped albums that many heads consider to be CLASSIC. They didn't need 50 cent to do all that. I wouldn't mind one 50 cent cameo on the album, or hell even a posse cut a la "Mobb Unit" or something. They had a fuckin Lil Jon beat on AN. I wasn't really feelin it, but its not like they had his ass screamin up and down all over the album. And they coulda done that and probably had some success because at the time, Lil Jon was EVERYWHERE. But whoring themselves by putting out an album like this is a joke. I'm not supporting this bullshit.
Well, thats the whole point. Just like Snoop was all over DPG and Tha Eastsidaz.Or Eminem over D12.
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^Eminem is in D12, can I get a hookup???
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you know what, i've listened to it for like 3 times now, i love this album 8) don't care what y'all think, it's tite, even that creep song is starting to grow on me... despite the weird ass beat
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Dope tracks: Put Them In Their Place, Daydreamin, In Love With The Moula, Outta Control (Remix), Backstage Pass, Give It To Me & Have A Party
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(http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/2001/50wanted9fo.jpg)
It's an OK album, best tracks are "Put Them In Their Place" & "In Love With The Moula"
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Because OC remix was a single.
Yeah, that still ain't relevent. The point is, just because 50's got a Dre beat in pocket don't mean he'll use it as soon as he gets it.
Well I believe Havoc over 50. Big fuckin deal. And what exactly is your theory? That 50 really likes Hav and P, and wants to help them out cuz he's a nice guy? NEGRO PLEASE.
No, he wants to help them because it's in his financial interests to see them cross over and sell Platinum, especially after Yayo's album did so poorly. Why the fuck else? Ain't that what the music industry's about?
Although I do think that, even though you might not agree, 50 does have respect for Mobb Deep. He has said before that they were one of his influences when he was starting to rap (then again, a lot of the current generation of East Coast thug rappers were probably inspired by Mobb Deep). The one thing you can't deny is that 50 has been giving Mobb Deep far more dedication and promotion than Jive (and even Loud) ever gave them, not to mention he's paid them far better. Doesn't that tell you anything?
And again, I'm not anti G-Unit. I'm anti having G-Unit on over half of a MOBB DEEP album. Why is that concept so fuckin hard for you to grasp?
Have you even listened to the album yet? If so, you'd realize it hardly even matters. The truth is, they aren't relying on 50 and he doesn't steal the spotlight from them at all on this album (the way he stole the spotlight on "The Documentary", anyway). Trust me, 50's presence ain't overbearing on "Blood Money". But Mobb Deep is a part of the G-Unit family now, so of course, they're going to be guesting on the record. The only thing that should matter to you is whether or not it impacts the music.
And yeah, I'd say you must be against G-Unit. Clearly, you think that having G-Unit on the album automatically equals wackness, which is ludicrous by itself.
You seem like an intelligent guy (albeit an intelligent guy with a hard on for 50 cent).
Maybe I'm just sick of all the hating? Is there really anything wrong with enjoying G-Unit's music and not being a hater? I'm not ashamed to say that I bump 50's music, and that I enjoy it more than 99% of the other commercial hip-hop out there right now.
You're horrible at taking quotes out of text, and makes me not want to waste time arguing with you. I said I hope this album flops so I can get a Mobb Deep album without G-Unit all over it. So don't be twistin words.
Still the same thing. You shouldn't want your favorite group to flop under any circumstances. Granted, you shouldn't want them to sell out, either, but that's not something Mobb Deep did here. True Mobb fans should be happy to see them getting a break like this after going 5 years without a major hit and seeing their albums get mis-marketed and under-promoted.
Let me ask you this, would you be in favor of every rap artist signing to G-Unit? Yes, they'd probably get more exposure, but at what cost? I want a new Tribe album - haven't had one in 8 years. If they signed to G-Unit, and had 50, buck, banks, yayo on over half the album i think I would literally vomit. And I wouldn't support it on principal alone. That's not hating, thats having a shred of integrity. If thats the only way I get them back, then I don't want it. If I want to hear Yayo, 50, Buck, and Banks, I'll cop their shit - Not Mobb Deep.
The only thing I'm going to say (as I've said before) is that you shouldn't care unless it affects the quality of the music. If (and this is hypothetical) Tribe signed to G-Unit and found that being with 50 got their creative juices and energy flowing again, and the outcome was that they released another album as good as "The Low End Theory" or "Midnight Marauders", would you really mind? Do I think that would happen? No, that's a stretch. Mobb Deep, on the other hand, it ain't nearly as much of a stretch for them to be down with 50 because they're the same breed of rapper - thugs from Queens - while Tribe is in entirely different genre that G-Unit doesn't seem set up to produce. But Mobb Deep being down with G-Unit? Easier to see, and indeed, "Blood Money" makes me feel like I'm right.
They've already been Gold and Platinum artists. They've dropped albums that many heads consider to be CLASSIC. They didn't need 50 cent to do all that.
Yeah, that was 10 years ago. The rap game has changed, and Mobb Deep's sound and even their style would be dated at this point. If Mobb Deep were to release another album like "The Infamous" - with the same sparse, simple production and P rapping like he's still in "juvenile hell" more than 10 years later - I would just yawn. Just because it was dope back then doesn't mean it'll be dope today.
50's sound, whether we want to accept it or not, is the current sound of New York gangsta rap. If you're going to re-invent yourself for a present-day audience to sound relevent again, then yeah, I'd most def say that being with 50 is advantageous.
I wouldn't mind one 50 cent cameo on the album, or hell even a posse cut a la "Mobb Unit" or something. They had a fuckin Lil Jon beat on AN. I wasn't really feelin it, but its not like they had his ass screamin up and down all over the album. And they coulda done that and probably had some success because at the time, Lil Jon was EVERYWHERE. But whoring themselves by putting out an album like this is a joke. I'm not supporting this bullshit.
Again, I'm really curious to know if you've even heard the whole thing by now. I get the impression you haven't. If not, why the fuck am I even talking to you?
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(http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/2001/50wanted9fo.jpg)
That's really funny to me, because Mobb Deep pretty much destroyed their own career by failing to update themselves and starting to sound irrelevent. Being with 50 has at least given them a chance at a career comeback.
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i think its hot, fuck g-unit haters, FUCK EM 8)
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(http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/2001/50wanted9fo.jpg)
That's really funny to me, because Mobb Deep pretty much destroyed their own career by failing to update themselves and starting to sound irrelevent. Being with 50 has at least given them a chance at a career comeback.
A chance at a career comeback or career suicide???
Even if Curtis succeedz in bringin' Mobb Deep 2 tha mainstream and they go triple platinum will it be worth tha price they paid?
Fuck that and that pic iz funny as hell propz 4 that!!
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A chance at a career comeback or career suicide???
Their career has already been fucking dead for several years now..."Amerikaz Nightmare" made that pretty clear.
Even if Curtis succeedz in bringin' Mobb Deep 2 tha mainstream and they go triple platinum will it be worth tha price they paid?
What price did they pay? We've heard the record, they didn't sell out. The music is overall decent.
Fuck that and that pic iz funny as hell propz 4 that!!
White kids like you really need to stop trying so hard to sound black.
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A chance at a career comeback or career suicide???
Their career has already been fucking dead for several years now..."Amerikaz Nightmare" made that pretty clear.
Even if Curtis succeedz in bringin' Mobb Deep 2 tha mainstream and they go triple platinum will it be worth tha price they paid?
What price did they pay? We've heard the record, they didn't sell out. The music is overall decent.
Fuck that and that pic iz funny as hell propz 4 that!!
White kids like you really need to stop trying so hard to sound black.
1. I wouldn't consider it dead besidez tha Mobb alwayz had itz core fan base, I'm not a hardcore Mobb Deep fan myself but I thought Amerikaz Nightmare was dope (matter of taste I guess)..
2. I'm not talkin' bout tha muzik what went through ur mind when U first heard Mobb Deep was gonna sign 2 G-unit (same 4 M.O.P.)? In my opinion Mobb Deep (and M.O.P. 4 that matter) simply do NOT belong on tha G-Unit roster! Okay so their career went downhill next thang U know they signed 2 G-Unit??! C'mon mane...
3. People like U really need 2 think b4 sayin' somethin' so cliche and stupid like that! <<<Nuff said about this...
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the price they paid? naw 50 paid them the new cars and shit + he gave them acces to lots of producers and he promoted their album like craaazy. 50 did a good job actually, and the album is nice.
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Damn, this album is real nice.Definately getting myself a copy of this 8)
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1. I wouldn't consider it dead besidez tha Mobb alwayz had itz core fan base, I'm not a hardcore Mobb Deep fan myself but I thought Amerikaz Nightmare was dope (matter of taste I guess)..
Maybe calling it "dead" would be an exaggeration, but commercially, Mobb Deep's career was most def on life support before 50 signed them. It still is, actually, but at least the chances of recovery seem higher now than they did only about a year ago. "Amerikaz Nightmare" was a much better album than "Infamy", but the public simply wasn't interested (and neither were a lot of Mobb fans, actually, if the reviews were any indication).
2. I'm not talkin' bout tha muzik what went through ur mind when U first heard Mobb Deep was gonna sign 2 G-unit (same 4 M.O.P.)? In my opinion Mobb Deep (and M.O.P. 4 that matter) simply do NOT belong on tha G-Unit roster! Okay so their career went downhill next thang U know they signed 2 G-Unit??! C'mon mane...
Wait a sec...back the FUCK up, young blood. You ain't talkin about the music? If so, then why the hell should I care? See, this is why so-called "hip-hop heads" like yourself are far more shallow than you claim you are...It's very clear to me that like most suburban kids who ain't ever seen a housing project in their lives, your sole concern with Mobb Deep is their "street cred", and that the only thing you hate about them being on G-Unit is that it seems to threaten their street cred.
This is what makes me a true Mobb fan...I am only concerned with one thing, the only thing a fan of any group should be concerned with: The quality of their music. These other cats are just upset they're signing with a label associated with "pop".
3. People like U really need 2 think b4 sayin' somethin' so cliche and stupid like that! <<<Nuff said about this...
Nah, I know exactly what I'm talking about. You think I haven't seen enough of your kind by now?
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This album is pretty solid if you ask me. Quick review...
01. Smoke It - tight opener, the beat's nice...Just Blaze sampled the same song for Jay-Z's "U Don't Know" I noticed...
02. Put Em In Their Place - the brassy beat is good, but gets repetitive...decent 1st single, but I don't think it will chart too high...
03. Stole Something - Havoc's production is dark but I'm not feeling this too much...Banks sounds like he's trying too hard to be grimey...I think the beat might grow on me...
04. Creep - this song could definitely be used to torture people...the cartoonish loop doesn't do much for me, neither do the vocals...50's got a little flow going on in the 3rd verse...worst beat on the album.
05. Speaking So Freely - this is more like that...very ill production, a catchy hook and a nice performance all around...one of the best cuts on Blood Money.
06. Backstage Pass - another one that grows on you...I'm digging the instrumental, I can trace pieces of the Clipse song "Grindin" if you listen close you'll hear it...not a bad track at all.
07. Give It To Me - nothing special...same played out G-Unit shit, the beat sounds tired, and Buck doesn't add much...
08. Click Click - the beat's OK, Yayo drops one of the whackest verses I've heard in a while, but Mobb doesn't disappoint on the whole...Christ, Yayo's garbage.
09. Pearly Gates - I don't like this cut...the beat isn't tight, 50 sounds like he's trying to be Mase on the hook, Havoc is decent and Prodigy gets hella edited, which is good, because his lyrics on this track are bullshit.
10. Capital P, Capital H - nice beat, hook is aight, verses are nothing really to check for.
11. Daydreamin' - the best song off this album, imo. The beat is crazy dope, and Mobb puts it down lovely. Don't sleep on this one...
12. The Infamous - I didn't like this at first, but it grew on me. Alchemist drops a nice track, and the vocals are pretty good. The video's great if you little big booties and titties...
13. In Love With The Moula - dope concept, and J.R.'s beat is very good. Mobb lays it down pretty decent.
14. It's Alright - I'm feeling this one....production is stellar, and the performances are nice.
15. Have A Party - banger, because of Nate's hook and Fredwreck's dope beat.
16. Outta Control Remix - Dre's beat is fire, we've heard this before...Havoc's got the best verse here.
I didn't really feel like rating the tracks, because it's too soon for that. Both Havoc and P do their thing, 50 lets them shine and the beats bang. Not a bad album at all.
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uh, i want to hear the dre track. :)
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This mobb record is Prodigy and Havoc "going for broke" and wagering their entire fan base, legacy and credibility for a shot at 50 Cent-rock-star-like stardom. They don’t even try to hide it with their blatant ripping of 50 Cent style harmonization and characteristic every-song radio appeal, not to mention the shameless 60% to 30% features to solo’s ratio, the Mobb have shown clearly that they’ve cashed in all their chips and are betting everything on 50.
People on this board seem so confused at why the Mobb would get hated on for this move but it seems pretty self-evident to me. Here you have a classic case of artists who’ve reached a point in their career where their personal finances are more important than their art. Plain and simple. Prodigy and Havoc are willing to change their artistic styles and wear whatever facade necessary to make more money. There is a term for that and its called "selling out." And that's exactly what happened here with "Blood Money," Mobb Deep sold themselves out; cashed in their artistic stock, credibility and legacy for money.... Blood Money.
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^^^^ You and I obviously heard completely different records. The version of "Blood Money" I heard was hardly crossover-friendly at all. And where's this "60%-30%" shit? There's only 7 NEW tracks where G-Unit appears, "Have A Party" and "Outta Control" don't count because they're bonus tracks. And stop acting like my views are the majority when I'm fending off a lotta hate from cats like yourself.
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^^^^ You and I obviously heard completely different records. The version of "Blood Money" I heard was hardly crossover-friendly at all. And where's this "60%-30%" shit? There's only 7 NEW tracks where G-Unit appears, "Have A Party" and "Outta Control" don't count because they're bonus tracks. And stop acting like my views are the majority when I'm fending off a lotta hate from cats like yourself.
So "Have a party" and "Outta Control" don’t count huh? I think they sure as hell do considering Mobb Deep recorded just under a hundred songs for this project and these two some how made the final cut. 10 of the songs on this album have a guest feature, 10 out of 16 that's 62% my friend. And you must have been just listening to the first 15 seconds of each song dude because 50's fingerprints are ALL OVER THIS RECORD. Even when 50's not rapping/singing/backupvocaling/ghostwriting/ Havoc and Pee are trying to rap like him. I mean just listen, Mobb Deep are singing... SINGING! Purposely slurring words, overly annunciating vowels, harmonizing their vocals this shit sounds like a 50 Cent cover band… its as clear as day.
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So "Have a party" and "Outta Control" don’t count huh? I think they sure as hell do considering Mobb Deep recorded just under a hundred songs for this project and these two some how made the final cut. 10 of the songs on this album have a guest feature, 10 out of 16 that's 62% my friend. And you must have been just listening to the first 15 seconds of each song dude because 50's fingerprints are ALL OVER THIS RECORD. Even when 50's not rapping/singing/backupvocaling/ghostwriting/ Havoc and Pee are trying to rap like him. I mean just listen, Mobb Deep are singing... SINGING! Purposely slurring words, harmonizing their vocals this shit sounds like a 50 Cent cover band… its as clear as day.
Yeah, those two don't count. Even if you do count them, tho, that's only NINE songs with guest appearances. But I don't count them b/c they've been on other albums and are just included as bonus tracks (probably to make up for "Nightmares" being cut).
I listened to this album many times. P and Hav do try some singsong shit, but it's not THAT frequent. You exaggerate everything; this is a FAR cry from selling out...that implies they're trying to go completely pop, which characterized a lotta songs on "Infamy". This album at least has the sort of haunting, sparse production that best suits their style, and even if P is still wack, at least Hav sounds hungry in comparison. So no, I don't see how this is as bad as you say. Honestly, you ain't feeling "Daydreamin", "The Infamous", etc.?
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I wanna hear this
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One thing I will admit is this is def not a pop album, its got that grimey sound to it
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The Beat in Creep ruins any chance of the song being tight, however when it comes to the verses in the track 50 definently flows the best
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okay artistically this isn't that great of an album, lyrics are sub par...
but I STILL LOVE IT. the beats are crazy, these guys got charisma and flow and its good music to bump to. i'm not g-units biggest fan but i can't deny this shits hot
EDIT: oh yeah and tony yayo stayed on beat!!!!! lmao, who the fuck knows what's going on with all of prodigy's fee fi fo fum bullshit though
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It's an dope album, that Alchemist produced track is fuckin dope 8)
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how do beats like creep make final cuts? wow i dont know
they should have replaced that creep beat with one of mines
http://www.soundclick.com/d1g1t4l
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YO can u send me a link?
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this album is ass. i give credit to havoc because he carried this album. but most of prodigys rhymes dont rhyme at all, i have to suffer through 50 on every other track, and the production sounds either wack our dated. typical g-unit quality
bring on mase
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After the 1st listen I am very pleased.
After one listen , a good album
good album
this album is pretty good.
shit sound good in the car///
actually , i like this album on a first listen 8) only the creep song is wack the rest is kinda dope, i think imma show this some love acutally..
i think its hot, fuck g-unit haters, FUCK EM 8)
Damn, this album is real nice.Definately getting myself a copy of this 8)
This album is pretty solid if you ask me. .
okay artistically this isn't that great of an album, lyrics are sub par...
but I STILL LOVE IT. the beats are crazy, these guys got charisma and flow and its good music to bump to. i'm not g-units biggest fan but i can't deny this shits hot
It's an dope album.
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BLOOD MONEY = ABSOLUTE GARBAGE
BLOOD MONEY = ABSOLUTE GARBAGE
...this album blows even by Gunit standards
I'm not feeling this album at all! It got some nice tracks, but overall I think it sucks.
this shit is garbage...
Not very impressed at all
this album is ass.
here is a term for that and its called "selling out." And that's exactly what happened here with "Blood Money"
Gotta love Dubcc.. whenever a album drops, it's usually praised as dope by some people, and absolute garbage by others.. ;D
Got mixed feelings about this album, I miss some real bangers. Amerikaz Nightmare >> Blood Money.
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^^^^ You and I obviously heard completely different records. The version of "Blood Money" I heard was hardly crossover-friendly at all. And where's this "60%-30%" shit? There's only 7 NEW tracks where G-Unit appears, "Have A Party" and "Outta Control" don't count because they're bonus tracks. And stop acting like my views are the majority when I'm fending off a lotta hate from cats like yourself.
So "Have a party" and "Outta Control" don’t count huh? I think they sure as hell do considering Mobb Deep recorded just under a hundred songs for this project and these two some how made the final cut. 10 of the songs on this album have a guest feature, 10 out of 16 that's 62% my friend. And you must have been just listening to the first 15 seconds of each song dude because 50's fingerprints are ALL OVER THIS RECORD. Even when 50's not rapping/singing/backupvocaling/ghostwriting/ Havoc and Pee are trying to rap like him. I mean just listen, Mobb Deep are singing... SINGING! Purposely slurring words, overly annunciating vowels, harmonizing their vocals this shit sounds like a 50 Cent cover band… its as clear as day.
Lmao the hate for GUnit on this forum is amazing. Mobb Deep definetly didnt sell out. They dont have a party,club track with 50 on the hook as a 1st single. Theyve keept their grimey sound. The GUnit verses are all dope,except for Yayos and even he was that bad.
Documentary was more GUnit influenced than Blood Money.
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crap...not impressed at all
peace
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i was disappointed blood money is garbage there last album was a lot better
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anyone hook me up with it?
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In the run up to the release of Mobb Deep's "Bloody Money" album, their first release since joing G-Unit, we had a chance to interview Mobb Deep's Havoc about the album and it's leak onto the Internet before it's release, joining G-Unit and the recent death of D12's Proof.
Havoc: Yo, what’s up?
JD: Hey, how you doing?
Havoc: Aiight
JD: I want to start off with a few questions about the album. What can we expect from the album? Is it going to be a typical Mobb Deep album?
Havoc: You know basically, it's another Mobb Deep classic, we put our heart into it and the album is crazy, you know what I’m saying?
JD: Yeah, what can we expect as far as guest appearances go?
Havoc: Well we kept it limited to the G-Unit family and ourselves, so of course we got 50, we got Yayo, Young Buck, Lloyd Banks and even a special feature from Mary J. Blige.
JD: Did you handle all of the production or did you get others in as well?
Havoc: I produced about half of the album, of course we got other producers on there, which is a good thing, you know what I mean? You get to hear Mobb Deep over different and various tracks.
JD: You've got a track on the album produced by Dre haven't you?
Havoc: Yeah, yeah, it's called Nightmares, man that's tight.
JD: What was it like working with Dre?
Havoc: I mean, it was a good experience because I am a producer myself. So working with him was like an honour, you know to sit there and watch him do his thing, that was crazy.
JD: Did you just sit back and take notes?
Havoc: Yeah of course, I took a lot of mental notes, you know what I mean, I was glad I was a part of that.
JD: Where do you think Bloody Money ranks amongst your other albums?
Havoc: Ah man, it's right there at the top, you know what I mean, for real.
JD: So you think it is the best Mobb Deep material?
Havoc: Yeah man.
JD: What is your favourite track from the album?
Havoc: Errm, I would have to say, there's a song that I did called Creep, it's real crazy.
JD: And what makes it your favourite?
Havoc: I mean just the beat in general, you know what I mean, and our flow is real crazy.
JD: When you were recording the album, did you feel pressured that you had to live up to your previous material?
Havoc: Well, you know, I am always trying to out do myself, so that feeling is always there, you know what I mean, within myself.
JD: I'm not sure if you've heard yet, but the album actually leaked onto the Internet yesterday (April 19).
Havoc: Yeah, I heard about that.
JD: How do you feel about albums being leaked onto the Internet before they're release date?
Havoc: I mean, sometimes it's hard to control that situation, but I think of it as a preview. If people want it that much that they leak it onto the Internet, you know, it works both ways, it could be a good thing depending on how early it gets leaked. In this case it was only about 2 weeks, so it's not that bad.
JD: I hear you are planning to preview the album on Shade 45 this weekend.
Havoc: Yep.
JD: What can people expect. Are you going to play the entire album or just snippets of tracks?
Havoc: Yeah, we will probably play snippets and a couple of tracks, just to get people warmed up.
JD: I just want to talk about the move over to G-Unit. How did it feel to be part of a rap super group like G-Unit?
Havoc: I mean, for real it was a good feeling, you know its a family, its a family atmosphere, you know what I mean, that's what we [Mobb Deep], we been searching for that for a long time. We did good on our own, but its always good to be part of a family.
JD: How did the deal come about because it seemed to come out of nowhere.
Havoc: what happened was, we were on Jive and we got released from Jive through our differences with each other. A week later I got a call from 50 Cent saying that he heard we were free agents and that he wanted to work with our next project.
JD: Was it an easy decision to make once you found out 50 was interested?
Havoc: Yeah, obviously we had to think about it and when we had the meeting with 50 we were confident that he would do what he said and come through, you know what I mean.
JD: Do you think it was a good move based on the fact you will get much more international exposure?
Havoc: Urm yeah because music most of the time is all about exposure and we always looking for that so yeah, it's a good thing.
JD: Did 50 Cent have much input on the album?
Havoc: Oh yeah definitely, he is who he is and with the creative mind that he has, you know alongside of ours it just turns out that we made a classic album because of that.
JD: Have you learnt anything from working with 50, or have you actually taught him a thing or two?
Havoc: Basically, no matter where you think you are in your life, you still gotta work hard.
JD: Now that you're a part of G-Unit, I mean G-Unit do much more than music nowadays, have you got any plans to sign any of your own artists or do books or DVDs or anything?
Havoc: Yeah, for sure. Now that you mention that, we do have a couple of artists, we got 40 Glocc, who is from L.A. California and we got Nyce from Jamaica, Queens, so yeah we definitely gonna be putting our artists on the Infamous/G-Unit label.
JD: A lot of people have been wondering that since you joined G-Unit, have you inherited their beefs, in particular the one with The Game?
Havoc: I mean, it is what it is, I mean us being signed to G-Unit, if people dislike it of course they are going to come at us, so I just take it day by day and I don't pay attention to it, I just make music.
JD: M.O.P. also signed to G-Unit around the same time as you, have you got any plans to do any collaborations with them?
Havoc: Yeah definitely, its inevitable, you know what I’m saying, we get along real well, so we definitely going to be doing an album with them.
JD: You're going to make an album together?
Havoc: Yeah, if not an album, definitely songs.
JD: How come they aren't on the new album?
Havoc: We didn't get a chance to collaborate on this one, but in the future they will be.
JD: Outside of G-Unit, is there anyone you would like to work with who you haven't had chance to?
Havoc: You know I’m a producer so that’s natural that I’ma work with other artists anyway, so I don't have anyone specifically in mind, but it's definitely something I will do.
JD: Are you going to be handling some of the production for G-Unit now?
Havoc: I mean, I been doing work with G-Unit since before I signed to them, I’ve been producing for a couple of their artists.
JD: Are you going to continue doing production for people outside of G-Unit?
Havoc: Oh yeah, of course, like I said, its only natural, I’m a producer, so for sure, yeah.
JD: Have you got any plans for a tour this year and are you coming to the UK?
Havoc: Yeah, we start the tour in the US May 3rd and we will be in Europe I would say by the beginning of July.
JD: You've been in the rap game for quite a long time now, how do you think it's changed since you started out?
Havoc: Of course a lot of things have changed, you know, I don't mind, I welcome change and I remain and still do what I do.
JD: What are your thoughts on the whole Proof situation in Detroit?
Havoc: Yeah, I think about that and it's a bad situation, I knew him, he was on the road with us and any time there is an untimely death, it's never good, it's never good, you know and I send my condolences out to his family and pray that they get good because people like family and you never want to see family go.
JD: Finally, is there anything you would like to tell the fans?
Havoc: I just want to thank the fans for supporting Mobb Deep, you know, for the time they have supported us and definitely go and pick up the album because it's a collectable item for real.
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1. I wouldn't consider it dead besidez tha Mobb alwayz had itz core fan base, I'm not a hardcore Mobb Deep fan myself but I thought Amerikaz Nightmare was dope (matter of taste I guess)..
Maybe calling it "dead" would be an exaggeration, but commercially, Mobb Deep's career was most def on life support before 50 signed them. It still is, actually, but at least the chances of recovery seem higher now than they did only about a year ago. "Amerikaz Nightmare" was a much better album than "Infamy", but the public simply wasn't interested (and neither were a lot of Mobb fans, actually, if the reviews were any indication).
2. I'm not talkin' bout tha muzik what went through ur mind when U first heard Mobb Deep was gonna sign 2 G-unit (same 4 M.O.P.)? In my opinion Mobb Deep (and M.O.P. 4 that matter) simply do NOT belong on tha G-Unit roster! Okay so their career went downhill next thang U know they signed 2 G-Unit??! C'mon mane...
Wait a sec...back the FUCK up, young blood. You ain't talkin about the music? If so, then why the hell should I care? See, this is why so-called "hip-hop heads" like yourself are far more shallow than you claim you are...It's very clear to me that like most suburban kids who ain't ever seen a housing project in their lives, your sole concern with Mobb Deep is their "street cred", and that the only thing you hate about them being on G-Unit is that it seems to threaten their street cred.
This is what makes me a true Mobb fan...I am only concerned with one thing, the only thing a fan of any group should be concerned with: The quality of their music. These other cats are just upset they're signing with a label associated with "pop".
3. People like U really need 2 think b4 sayin' somethin' so cliche and stupid like that! <<<Nuff said about this...
Nah, I know exactly what I'm talking about. You think I haven't seen enough of your kind by now?
First of all I'mma be honest wit U:
I really really dislike 50 and G-Unit and tha fact that they've got tha rap game on lock 4 several yearz now really really botherz me, now I'm not gonna front I LIKED 50 when I first heard him on Onyx'z React and when How To Rob came out, I bought those on vinyl along wit Thug Luv and I was really anticipatin' Columbia releasin' that Power Of The Dollar EP. I don't know quite how 2 explain this but ever since 50 signed wit Dre and Em and blew up big time I started 2 dislike him more and more, now ur rite about tha muzik aspect cause that comez first but I simply did NOT like Get Rich Or Die Trying (tha beatz, tha lyricz nah I wasn't feelin' it) and I also didn't like tha rapperz (Banks, Yayo and them) he brought along and tha whole vibe that went wit it... Fair enuff rite? Okay so I'm not feelin' Curtis' muzik anymore look what happened ever since Get Rich Or Die Trying came out: he goes on a rampage against other artistz 4 no apparent reason at all but 2 start up beef (controversy sells) and not tha least of artistz I might add, his muzik becomez more and more sing along rap 4 which he critized Ja Rule and The Inc so much 4 in tha first place, his outrageous commentz he makez in tha media don't help either etc etc etc... 2 sum it all up I don't like tha whole aura surroundin' G-Unit AND tha muzik they put out and I'm not hoppin' on tha fuck 50 bandwagon here this was my opinion waaay b4 G-Unot, tha Kiss beef, tha Joe beef etc...
On tha Mobb Deep thang:
I haven't heard 1 Mobb Deep G-Unit song (save 4 Outta Control) so I can't really comment on tha musical side of thangz BUT besidez all of tha above I think Efrain (look up his post) said it best about Prod and Hav sacrifyin' their ARTISTIC style 4 stardom and fame, whether they got sum good jointz on that album or not 2 me, and this iz my personal opinion, itz also about what an artist makez U feel like... Now I assume this iz probably just sum bullshit 2 U but itz also a matter of principle 4 me not 2 go out and support that Mobb Deep G-Unit album because of that, I think (again this iz just my opinion) tha quality of an artist'z muzik iz tied in wit tha artist'z motivation 4 doin' certain thangz and rite now Mobb Deep iz not doin' tha rite thang! And I'm not talkin' bout Mobb Deep'z street cred I'm talkin' bout Mobb Deep'z reason 4 makin' certain decisionz AND tha place they decided 2 go... I'm dissapointed that they and M.O.P. as well decided 2 take that route and where they ended up bein' on...
On tha (white) suburban kid thang:
Lemme make it very clear here that I'm not pretendin' 2 be a thug, gangsta or whatever or claimin' 2 be from tha ghetto I'm not even from tha US! I'm perfectly aware however that tha line between fact and fiction should NOT be crossed and that violence within tha hip hop industry AND tha African American communtiez iz a very serious matter that should not be taken lightly nor should it be glorified or looked upon as somethang that iz just entertainment! And yes I AM a hip hop fan been so ever since 1986, I am NOT glorifyin' (gang) violence, I do NOT condone video gamez like GTA: SA or tha True Crime seriez or any other "urban" (hate that word) video game that exploitz tha real life experiencez in certain partz of tha US, I do NOT glorify "hood" (also hate that word) moviez like Menace II Society and Boyz N The Hood by thinkin' that tha eventz that are played out in those moviez are kool or whatever... I am also very well aware of tha fact that tha form of muzik I happen 2 luv involvez greater and more serious issuez than just entertainment and on that note I think thatz why hip hop iz a special form of art where certain thangz should be takin' into consideration... Everytime I read an article or watched sumthang on tv/dvd dealin' wit hip hop regarding violence or issuez havin' 2 do wit (young) black people in Amerika I think 2 myself that 4 sum people this iz real life shit, be it Pac'z murder, all tha beefz, tha "keep it real" motto etc.
So regarding that comment U made about me tryin' so hard 2 be "black" just because of tha way I type doesn't automatically mean I am that kind that U've seen enuff of...
Sorry 4 bein' off topic U can now continue discussin' Mobb Deep'z Blood Money...
Pz
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mobb sound sick over that daydreamin beat, that beat is serious ill, the beat sounds crazy, not really impressed with alot of the tracks i heard so far though just going through with quik listens, im skipping alot of shit half way through, suprising for me, the production has let it down so far, sounds kinda stale, thought im just giving it a quik listen at the moment