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Title: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on January 11, 2010, 01:29:47 PM
Is it a classic, sure, because of the major hits it had.  But if you really were to break down the album HALF the album is filler.  Some of the filler songs are just down right pathetic.  The only reason people forget that half the album was wack was because the other half the song were classic.



AEOM is really an 4/5, and that is being VERY kind with my rating
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: J.E. on January 11, 2010, 01:36:48 PM
I wouldn't say wack but imo 7 Day Theory, Me Against the World & 2Paclypse Now are better albums. 7 Day Theory is actually a much better album. All Eyez On Me is a classic album (yes, album can be "a classic" without being perfect or even a 5mic album) but lyrically it wasn't as deep as most of Pac's albums. Couple of fillers maybe, but still better than most of the music released now a days.
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: Action! on January 11, 2010, 01:37:44 PM
yeah, i don't like this album...i do prefer strictly 4 my niggaz or me against the world
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: blazeindave213 on January 11, 2010, 01:40:14 PM
well thats you opinion a wack one at that in so many ways its a classic 1 the beats are insane 2 pacs a beast on the mic and tell me this one if it was soooooooo wack tell one only asking for one other album that even come close to all eyes on me in any way sale wise and any other way there is not i know your gonna go on about how no one buys cd any more will if lil wayne can do a milli in a week then any one with a name from the west should be able to do as long as yhey put something out worth am i saying i bought lil waynes cd nope im a die hard west coast fan and dont buy much other then westcoast artist cds so oh and imo relapse would have sold a hell of a lot more then i did if he wouldent have been out of the game for like what 4 5 years !!!!!!!!! " did that whole thing with out caps "  8)
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: SheraZ on January 11, 2010, 01:49:57 PM
even tho it wasnt Pacs best lyrically album, but flow-wise he killed the beats.. and it has dope production on every song! I know some ppl here dont like "whatz ya phone #" but i can listen thru this whole album without skipping a single song! Prob the best overall album from DR! 7Day Theory might be better, but Alleyezonme got songs for every mood imo.. id give the album 5/5!

peace
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: Paul on January 11, 2010, 02:00:37 PM
I agree that every track isnt amazing but the influence and like u say singles make this a classic hip hop album
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: 2euce 7even on January 11, 2010, 02:04:16 PM
AEOM Wasn´t Wack.
AEOM Was Like Presentation Of 2Pac With Death Row.
The Album Wasn´t As Deep As MATW But It Had Dope Songs On It And Yes, Like Tha Otha Guy Said AEOM Had Songs For Every Mood.
The Album Is Perfect.I Missed Some People On AEOM Tho. Spice 1, Lunizl, Rage, O.F.T.B,etc.
It Could Have Been Better But It´s Still A Certified Classic.
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: blazeindave213 on January 11, 2010, 02:15:32 PM
way off topic can any one send the link 2 the threds thats in here some where cant find them

if theres a cure for this pac and snoop

and that one verse of watch your mouth
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: sprite on January 11, 2010, 02:56:35 PM
half the album filler?   seems to me you spend too much time being a critic

that album was dope as fuck, still play it today, pretty much all the tracks are good

rating and comparing albums stop being cool a long time ago...
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: teecee on January 11, 2010, 03:10:04 PM
My favourite Pac album is MATW, but to say half this album is filler isn't accurate...at least to me.

In fact, its incredible how many of these songs could've been huge singles...


Whatz Ya Phone # was horrible though
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: Jay Rome on January 11, 2010, 03:14:17 PM
Is it a classic, sure, because of the major hits it had.  But if you really were to break down the album HALF the album is filler.  Some of the filler songs are just down right pathetic.  The only reason people forget that half the album was wack was because the other half the song were classic.



AEOM is really an 4/5, and that is being VERY kind with my rating

You don't know music at all to say some bullshit like that....I remember bumpin that album in the 12th grade when it came out shit was classic and still gets play to this day.
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: jloco53 on January 11, 2010, 04:05:19 PM
HOW IS ALL EYEZ ON ME WACC HOMIE
what songs are wack on the album
he got club tracks, laid back tracks, street songs
Check out time, tradin war stories, heartz of men, scandalous, All eyez on me,
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on January 11, 2010, 04:05:57 PM
Is it a classic, sure, because of the major hits it had.  But if you really were to break down the album HALF the album is filler.  Some of the filler songs are just down right pathetic.  The only reason people forget that half the album was wack was because the other half the song were classic.



AEOM is really an 4/5, and that is being VERY kind with my rating

You don't know music at all to say some bullshit like that....I remember bumpin that album in the 12th grade when it came out shit was classic and still gets play to this day.


when an album has tracks like Amerikkaz Most Wanted  it's going to bump but then you got trash like What's Ya Phone # you realize the truth about the album.  Half the album should be cut
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: Fuck Your Existence on January 11, 2010, 04:13:32 PM




Whatz Ya Phone # was horrible though
easily his worst
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: DeeezNuuuts83 on January 11, 2010, 04:25:20 PM
Is it a classic, sure, because of the major hits it had.  But if you really were to break down the album HALF the album is filler.  Some of the filler songs are just down right pathetic.  The only reason people forget that half the album was wack was because the other half the song were classic.



AEOM is really an 4/5, and that is being VERY kind with my rating

You don't know music at all to say some bullshit like that....I remember bumpin that album in the 12th grade when it came out shit was classic and still gets play to this day.


when an album has tracks like Amerikkaz Most Wanted  it's going to bump but then you got trash like What's Ya Phone # you realize the truth about the album.  Half the album should be cut
I'm trying very hard to understand your perspective... please list the "half" that should be cut.

Yes, there are some songs that I will skip everytime (i.e., Tradin War Stories, What'z Ya Phone #), but there is a solid album's worth of dope tracks, and most of the remaining tracks are at least decent.
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: Quadruple OG on January 11, 2010, 04:28:45 PM
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Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on January 11, 2010, 04:34:06 PM
Is it a classic, sure, because of the major hits it had.  But if you really were to break down the album HALF the album is filler.  Some of the filler songs are just down right pathetic.  The only reason people forget that half the album was wack was because the other half the song were classic.



AEOM is really an 4/5, and that is being VERY kind with my rating

You don't know music at all to say some bullshit like that....I remember bumpin that album in the 12th grade when it came out shit was classic and still gets play to this day.


when an album has tracks like Amerikkaz Most Wanted  it's going to bump but then you got trash like What's Ya Phone # you realize the truth about the album.  Half the album should be cut
I'm trying very hard to understand your perspective... please list the "half" that should be cut.

Yes, there are some songs that I will skip everytime (i.e., Tradin War Stories, What'z Ya Phone #), but there is a solid album's worth of dope tracks, and most of the remaining tracks are at least decent.


the following should be cut

What's ya Phone #
Wonder why they call you bitch
No More Pain
Tradin War Stories
shorty want to be a thug
when we ride
thug passion
run tha streetz
aint hard 2 find
holla at me
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: rick1 on January 11, 2010, 05:52:46 PM
I agree there s a lot of fillers on All Eyez on Me, beside all of its classics.
They could have trimmed it down to one, really dope disc (- about 10 songs).
But let´s face it... in hiphop in general today, quantity rules over quality...
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: U.N.T.O.U.C.H.A.B.L.E. on January 11, 2010, 06:00:15 PM
Is it a classic, sure, because of the major hits it had.  But if you really were to break down the album HALF the album is filler.  Some of the filler songs are just down right pathetic.  The only reason people forget that half the album was wack was because the other half the song were classic.



AEOM is really an 4/5, and that is being VERY kind with my rating

You don't know music at all to say some bullshit like that....I remember bumpin that album in the 12th grade when it came out shit was classic and still gets play to this day.


when an album has tracks like Amerikkaz Most Wanted  it's going to bump but then you got trash like What's Ya Phone # you realize the truth about the album.  Half the album should be cut
I'm trying very hard to understand your perspective... please list the "half" that should be cut.

Yes, there are some songs that I will skip everytime (i.e., Tradin War Stories, What'z Ya Phone #), but there is a solid album's worth of dope tracks, and most of the remaining tracks are at least decent.


the following should be cut

What's ya Phone #
Wonder why they call you bitch
No More Pain
Tradin War Stories
shorty want to be a thug
when we ride
thug passion
run tha streetz
aint hard 2 find
holla at me

yea id definetly say that you should not be listening to hip hop at all.....you must leave this forum effective immediately...nigga please the only song i would cut off from your list would be what'z ya phone number and replace it with hit em up end of story
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: Jaydc on January 11, 2010, 06:50:29 PM
LOL at this idiot.This is the same guy who said malice in wonderland was an 8.5 out of 10 lol.Nobodoy takes you serious you clown.
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: Quadruple OG on January 11, 2010, 06:51:13 PM
this thread = (http://static.funnyjunk.com/pictures/Epic_Fail.jpg)
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on January 11, 2010, 06:53:52 PM
damn if this album is wack....biggie's albums are trash...lol
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: Blasphemy on January 11, 2010, 07:51:28 PM
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(http://www.homeforthedef.com/GoToHellTItle.jpg)
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: Blood$ on January 11, 2010, 08:00:16 PM
back when I first bought that album when I got into Pac I was in like 8th grade and I do remember some of the tracks took time to grow on me... but I feel it's a classic album regardless now, and there are many dope cuts on both discs  8)
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: teecee on January 11, 2010, 08:23:29 PM
Is it a classic, sure, because of the major hits it had.  But if you really were to break down the album HALF the album is filler.  Some of the filler songs are just down right pathetic.  The only reason people forget that half the album was wack was because the other half the song were classic.



AEOM is really an 4/5, and that is being VERY kind with my rating

You don't know music at all to say some bullshit like that....I remember bumpin that album in the 12th grade when it came out shit was classic and still gets play to this day.


when an album has tracks like Amerikkaz Most Wanted  it's going to bump but then you got trash like What's Ya Phone # you realize the truth about the album.  Half the album should be cut
I'm trying very hard to understand your perspective... please list the "half" that should be cut.

Yes, there are some songs that I will skip everytime (i.e., Tradin War Stories, What'z Ya Phone #), but there is a solid album's worth of dope tracks, and most of the remaining tracks are at least decent.


the following should be cut

What's ya Phone #
Wonder why they call you bitch
No More Pain
Tradin War Stories
shorty want to be a thug
when we ride
thug passion
run tha streetz
aint hard 2 find
holla at me

EVeryone has personal preference (for example, you like SNoop's new album!!!), and I can agree with a few of your cuts...

but Wonder Y they Call U Bitch, THug Passion, Holla At Me, SHorty Wanna Be a Thug, No More Pain?  those, to me, are some of the most underrated tracks on there...great songs that fit the album.   Songs like Thug Passion and Bitch are on there for the ladies...Pac knew how to appeal to everyone.
But I feel you on When We Ride, Run Tha Streetz, Ain't Hard to Find, and definitely Phone ##
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: Makaveli's Food & Liquor on January 11, 2010, 08:28:45 PM
Wonder why they call you bitch
No More Pain
Tradin War Stories
shorty want to be a thug
thug passion
run tha streetz
holla at me

lol at saying they should've been cut, the album isn't perfect but let's face it there'll never be a double-album which contains no filler
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: DeeezNuuuts83 on January 11, 2010, 08:35:16 PM
the album isn't perfect but let's face it there'll never be a double-album which contains no filler
VERY TRUE... even Greatest Hits had a few filler tracks that had no business being on there haha.
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: fabtoxicp on January 11, 2010, 08:39:21 PM
"All Eyez On Me" is on of the best hihop-records of all time.there's no fillers - it's like "Life After Death", a full-no-skipin listeing xperience

"what's a phone #" is tight, just turn it off before the outro comes in
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: EFFeX on January 11, 2010, 08:45:33 PM
Damn, Long Beach Iz Active, out of all the shocking posts you've made, this one really threw me for a loop.

To be honest though, you are completely entitled to your opinion, so in that respect I guess I can't hate you for it.

I have to disagree though, while there were songs I wasn't too happy with, this was not a terrible album by any stretch of the imagination.
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: Jay Rome on January 11, 2010, 09:07:11 PM
I thought What's ya phone number was tight it samples one of Prince classic songs.
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: akcranker - The Dangerous Crew Movement on January 11, 2010, 10:03:56 PM
I enjoy the whole album front to back.  Don't skip a single song.  I don't know about you but to me an album doesn't have to be absolutely perfect on every song.  Every song doesn't have to be a banger.  I think Pac had a nice mix of different types of tracks and I enjoy all of them.
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: Elano on January 11, 2010, 10:43:06 PM
Some of the filler songs are just down right pathetic.

Your LIFE is pathetic
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: J$crILLa on January 11, 2010, 11:34:04 PM


the following should be cut

What's ya Phone #
Wonder why they call you bitch
No More Pain
Tradin War Stories
shorty want to be a thug
when we ride
thug passion
run tha streetz
aint hard 2 find
holla at me

yea id definetly say that you should not be listening to hip hop at all.....you must leave this forum effective immediately...nigga please the only song i would cut off from your list would be what'z ya phone number and replace it with hit em up end of story
yeah i agrree/ though i dont hate whats ya phone number- i used too. i think its  kinda funny now. but yeah wouldve been better if they just put hit em up on it instead/
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: Davizz on January 12, 2010, 12:02:39 AM
It had some fillers no doubt but to me it's still the best Rap album ever made.
The fillers in BOOK 1 I have to skip them everytime (Pain, War Stories and the world famous Phone Number) but the ones on BOOK 2 is str8 West Coast laid back feel good music, I like 'em all (Check Out Time it's the only weak to me but it's still pretty good).

When We Ride is the presentation of the Outlawz, great lyrics all written by Pac I think and bomb beat by Pooh, Thug Passion is one of my favorite (The Outlawz were weak, but the beat was great and DJ Quik killed it with the talkbox), Hard 2 Find is a filler but it's a party with his Bay people, it had to be there and finally Holla At Me to me it's on the same level as Against All Odds, one of the best disses ever.

And personally I'm kinda tired of "it's not deep like...", why 2Pac has always to be deep in his lyrics... what's up with Snoop, Dre and the whole West Coast who's never been deep... he did Life Goes On, Mad at Cha and God Can Judge Me which are among his best, he had fun with the rest.
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: Lucifuge on January 12, 2010, 12:31:50 AM
2pac groupis strikes again ;D ;D

"half song are whack but its clasic"...thats some clasic shit right here..damn ;D ;D :D :D :D

hahahahaha  ;D ;D ;D ;D u make my day..clap clap

encore encore..more more more ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: Mietek23 on January 12, 2010, 01:19:36 AM
LOL at this idiot. This is the same guy who said malice in wonderland was an 8.5 out of 10 lol. Nobodoy takes you serious you clown.
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: outlaw_uk on January 12, 2010, 01:25:59 AM
even tho it wasnt Pacs best lyrically album, but flow-wise he killed the beats.. and it has dope production on every song! I know some ppl here dont like "whatz ya phone #" but i can listen thru this whole album without skipping a single song! Prob the best overall album from DR! 7Day Theory might be better, but Alleyezonme got songs for every mood imo.. id give the album 5/5!

peace

i second that! a song for every mood! a complete album
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: V2DHeart on January 12, 2010, 06:00:29 AM
LOL at this idiot.This is the same guy who said malice in wonderland was an 8.5 out of 10 lol.Nobodoy takes you serious you clown.
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: Africandogg on January 12, 2010, 06:12:09 AM
LBizdeactive fcuk u very much. U like startin shit for no reason. Leave the album alone
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: Okka on January 12, 2010, 06:14:58 AM
It's a classic but there's a few tracks that i never really liked.
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on January 12, 2010, 06:34:11 AM
only snoops albums are classic...lol
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: EFFeX on January 12, 2010, 07:22:09 AM
And personally I'm kinda tired of "it's not deep like...", why 2Pac has always to be deep in his lyrics... what's up with Snoop, Dre and the whole West Coast who's never been deep... he did Life Goes On, Mad at Cha and God Can Judge Me which are among his best, he had fun with the rest.

The album is deep, it may have just gone over people's heads.
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on January 12, 2010, 07:54:47 AM
like I been saying, the album IS CLASSIC, but has mad fillers


only stans can't see this
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: U.N.T.O.U.C.H.A.B.L.E. on January 12, 2010, 07:55:19 AM
2pac groupis strikes again ;D ;D

"half song are whack but its clasic"...thats some clasic shit right here..damn ;D ;D :D :D :D

hahahahaha  ;D ;D ;D ;D u make my day..clap clap

encore encore..more more more ;D ;D ;D

with a sn like yours you shouldnt even talking in this thread fool... ;) way outta your league
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: Matty on January 12, 2010, 07:57:47 AM
quik's involvement with this album in terms of the mixing is what takes AEOM over the top and gives it that 'classic' status. its the reason why the sound has not dated much and it still gets love today.
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: U.N.T.O.U.C.H.A.B.L.E. on January 12, 2010, 07:58:29 AM
like I been saying, the album IS CLASSIC, but has mad fillers


only stans can't see this

so there's 75-80 million stans worldwide & i know you a undercover stan too, probably have his whole catalogue & decided to hide it. u just need attention that u def ain't getting at home.... ;)
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: EFFeX on January 12, 2010, 08:36:18 AM
like I been saying, the album IS CLASSIC, but has mad fillers


only stans can't see this

The problem is that although you gave it a 4 out 5, you still made it perfectly clear on how "WACK" you thought the album was in your thread title.

Perhaps that's where the confusion is coming from?
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: Giesuz on January 12, 2010, 09:12:56 AM

the following should be cut

What's ya Phone #
Wonder why they call you bitch
No More Pain
Tradin War Stories
shorty want to be a thug
when we ride
thug passion
run tha streetz
aint hard 2 find
holla at me

i agree with "what's ya phone #", yes this track could`ve been scrapped or replaced but this was the ONLY wack track on the whole double album. you can easily bump both cd`s on heavy rotation today. i remember when it was released i listened 3 weeks to nothing lese. when cd1 was over i inserted disc 2 and over and over again. this is easily the best rap album ever. yes it`s not the deepest lyrics but it has the best production that was ever put together in one product. the whole thread is a disgrace to your taste of music.
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: Hazzard on January 12, 2010, 09:22:10 AM
Is it a classic, sure, because of the major hits it had.  But if you really were to break down the album HALF the album is filler.  Some of the filler songs are just down right pathetic.  The only reason people forget that half the album was wack was because the other half the song were classic.



AEOM is really an 4/5, and that is being VERY kind with my rating

You don't know music at all to say some bullshit like that....I remember bumpin that album in the 12th grade when it came out shit was classic and still gets play to this day.


when an album has tracks like Amerikkaz Most Wanted  it's going to bump but then you got trash like What's Ya Phone # you realize the truth about the album.  Half the album should be cut
I'm trying very hard to understand your perspective... please list the "half" that should be cut.

Yes, there are some songs that I will skip everytime (i.e., Tradin War Stories, What'z Ya Phone #), but there is a solid album's worth of dope tracks, and most of the remaining tracks are at least decent.


the following should be cut


Wonder why they call you bitch
No More Pain
Tradin War Stories
shorty want to be a thug
when we ridef
thug passion
run tha streetz
aint hard 2 find
holla at me


hahahahaha seriously dude you doin these threads just to piss people off.i feel really sorry for you :(
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: RICHLOS on January 12, 2010, 09:23:21 AM
Is it a classic, sure, because of the major hits it had.  But if you really were to break down the album HALF the album is filler.  Some of the filler songs are just down right pathetic.  The only reason people forget that half the album was wack was because the other half the song were classic.



AEOM is really an 4/5, and that is being VERY kind with my rating

You don't know music at all to say some bullshit like that....I remember bumpin that album in the 12th grade when it came out shit was classic and still gets play to this day.


when an album has tracks like Amerikkaz Most Wanted  it's going to bump but then you got trash like What's Ya Phone # you realize the truth about the album.  Half the album should be cut
I'm trying very hard to understand your perspective... please list the "half" that should be cut.

Yes, there are some songs that I will skip everytime (i.e., Tradin War Stories, What'z Ya Phone #), but there is a solid album's worth of dope tracks, and most of the remaining tracks are at least decent.


the following should be cut

What's ya Phone #
Wonder why they call you bitch
No More Pain
Tradin War Stories
shorty want to be a thug
when we ride
thug passion
run tha streetz
aint hard 2 find
holla at me
cat you trippen, every cut on that doubble disc is sick, even the ones you mentioned, your probbly from bixby noles not LB, cuz I dont know one Long Beach Resident that would agree with you.
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: es-jay on January 12, 2010, 09:29:10 AM
i always liked "Whats Ya Phone #"...
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: cStyle on January 12, 2010, 10:03:56 AM
All Eyez On Me is a dope record, but to me Me Against The World is way better. And how people rate The 7th Day Theory asPacs best album is beyond me to begin with  :P
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: ThaRealSupreme on January 12, 2010, 10:44:46 AM
damn if this album is wack....biggie's albums are trash...lol

Exactly lol

I got this album when I was in Jr.High and loved the first Cd but wasn't really on the 2nd one tough.

Me Against the World
All Eyez On Me
Makaveli
Still I Rise
Better Day= the business
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: Darksider on January 12, 2010, 11:14:08 AM
i stopped overanalyzing albums and comparing every part of the album with other cds  some years ago........its just stupid...especially with the dope death row catalogue
You are just giving your favorite cds a bad image!!
And since i stopped doing that i enjoy them more than ever!!! You need to live with the fact that not every released track can be the most powerfull and fresh track ever and  that songs and Albums sounds different.... which brings me back to this album!!
All eyez on me is a 27 song album with tons of different beat and mixing styles which basically got everything you need
From the super gangsta song  ...to the super funky track!! You got relaxed songs with  nice rnb hooks, emotional tracks, angry songs etc. Tupac just put everything on it! Thats the style of the album...its not perfect ...its not dre mixed....maybe it aint got the MATW flow.....but its great how it is!!!
and something tells me you would like "War Storiez" or "holla at me" if they would be on MATW.............
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: Invincible on January 12, 2010, 11:49:38 AM
I agree with the thread starter in some ways. In no way is this album wack but its not touching MATW. For me the tracks it could do without is:

How Do You Want It (I've never liked this song  :-X)
Whats Ya Phone #
Holla At Me
When We Ride
Thug Passion
Run Tha Streets
Ain't Hard To Find
Heaven Ain't Hard To Find

If you remove them tracks and make it a 1 disc, 19 track album, its a near perfect album. I never listen to the 2nd disc because of the many fillers on it. Let the hate come pouring in.
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: R1ZE on January 12, 2010, 12:37:44 PM
people seriously don't like aint hard 2 find? its one of my favorite tracks, one of the hardest beats on the album
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: U.N.T.O.U.C.H.A.B.L.E. on January 12, 2010, 12:52:53 PM
people seriously don't like aint hard 2 find? its one of my favorite tracks, one of the hardest beats on the album

there's a difference between young fans & og fans i guess.... :)
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: Episcop Cruel Cvrle on January 12, 2010, 01:04:19 PM
Sick album, brings back so many memories.....
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: SheraZ on January 12, 2010, 02:34:45 PM
Is it a classic, sure, because of the major hits it had.  But if you really were to break down the album HALF the album is filler.  Some of the filler songs are just down right pathetic.  The only reason people forget that half the album was wack was because the other half the song were classic.



AEOM is really an 4/5, and that is being VERY kind with my rating

You don't know music at all to say some bullshit like that....I remember bumpin that album in the 12th grade when it came out shit was classic and still gets play to this day.


when an album has tracks like Amerikkaz Most Wanted  it's going to bump but then you got trash like What's Ya Phone # you realize the truth about the album.  Half the album should be cut
I'm trying very hard to understand your perspective... please list the "half" that should be cut.

Yes, there are some songs that I will skip everytime (i.e., Tradin War Stories, What'z Ya Phone #), but there is a solid album's worth of dope tracks, and most of the remaining tracks are at least decent.


the following should be cut

What's ya Phone #
Wonder why they call you bitch
No More Pain
Tradin War Stories
shorty want to be a thug
when we ride
thug passion
run tha streetz
aint hard 2 find
holla at me

(http://i25.tinypic.com/20hvzme.jpg)
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on January 12, 2010, 02:35:17 PM
lol^^^^^
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: westside159 on January 12, 2010, 04:23:12 PM
All eyez on me wacc ?   This thread gets a wtf      i dont agree with it All eyez on me was dope to me , name 1 weak song on the album ..


Got my mind made up
Cali love original
I aint mad at cha
Ambitionz as a ridah
when we ride
picture me rollin
all eyez on me title song
Shorty wannabe a thug

All classics
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: salkku on January 12, 2010, 05:07:37 PM
best 2pac album... :)
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: JohnnyL on January 12, 2010, 05:24:57 PM


the following should be cut

What's ya Phone #
Wonder why they call you bitch
No More Pain
Tradin War Stories
shorty want to be a thug
when we ride
thug passion
run tha streetz
aint hard 2 find
holla at me

yea id definetly say that you should not be listening to hip hop at all.....you must leave this forum effective immediately...nigga please the only song i would cut off from your list would be what'z ya phone number and replace it with hit em up end of story
yeah i agrree/ though i dont hate whats ya phone number- i used too. i think its  kinda funny now. but yeah wouldve been better if they just put hit em up on it instead/



Some of these songs on this list are seriously among my favorites on the album.  And for the record, I really don't mind the "What's Ya Phone #" track either.  I guess I can see why some people don't care for it.  It's not one of the songs on the album that I'm always in the mood to listen to, but I really don't dislike it.  I guess you could say that for a Pac track it's not up to his usual standards, but I don't consider it to be wack either.  
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on January 12, 2010, 05:26:06 PM
maybe not best pac album but it has bangers
IMO better days is better
all eyez on me did have alot of fillers and wack songs but its sill dope (the songs that are that is)



best 2pac album... :)
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on January 12, 2010, 06:24:05 PM
you stans are blinded by his hype post death, you can't see the truth
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on January 12, 2010, 06:25:37 PM
what snoop is a better rapper than pac...lol



you stans are blinded by his hype post death, you can't see the truth
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on January 12, 2010, 06:43:08 PM
what snoop is a better rapper than pac...lol



you stans are blinded by his hype post death, you can't see the truth


Snoop is not a better rapper, but Doggystyle>>>>>any pac album
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on January 12, 2010, 07:42:10 PM
you trippin
doggystyle is dope but not better than all pac albums
and not all pac albums were dope
but all of pac traxx (which is basically what your sayin) are better than snoops doggystyle album
pacs discography>>>>snoops...lol




what snoop is a better rapper than pac...lol



you stans are blinded by his hype post death, you can't see the truth


Snoop is not a better rapper, but Doggystyle>>>>>any pac album
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: J$crILLa on January 12, 2010, 09:34:02 PM

All eyez on me is a 27 song album with tons of different beat and mixing styles which basically got everything you need
From the super gangsta song  ...to the super funky track!! You got relaxed songs with  nice rnb hooks, emotional tracks, angry songs etc. Tupac just put everything on it! Thats the style of the album...its not perfect ...its not dre mixed.........but its great how it is!!!


i agree

its got everything. 5/5 easily.
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: KrazySumwhat on January 12, 2010, 10:00:22 PM
 I do agree the album has whack songs on there ,i do not at all though agree with the thread starters list of songs that should've been cut, some of them were some of the best songs on the album??
 I was in my early teens when the album came out so i didnt like all the r&b songs like "how do u want it" and those type of songs, i didnt even like "aint mad at cha" cos of danny boy, but definately loved that album.
  I didnt really get into Pac until "me against the workd" & "thugg life" so i cant speak on his earlyer albums so much, i do have them but i wasnt really into em in theyre day.
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: fabtoxicp on January 12, 2010, 10:03:10 PM
i guess "the chronic" was wack too, huh?
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: Invincible on January 13, 2010, 05:16:04 AM
what snoop is a better rapper than pac...lol



you stans are blinded by his hype post death, you can't see the truth


Snoop is not a better rapper, but Doggystyle>>>>>any pac album

Agreed.
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: BigNeckBone on January 13, 2010, 05:19:36 AM
Sick album, brings back so many memories.....
Only god can judge me was also a dope song on it
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: Digital Pimpin' on January 13, 2010, 05:36:14 AM
All Eyez On Me is a dope record, but to me Me Against The World is way better. And how people rate The 7th Day Theory asPacs best album is beyond me to begin with  :P

+1
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: Mietek23 on January 13, 2010, 06:10:39 AM
Is it a classic, sure, because of the major hits it had.  But if you really were to break down the album HALF the album is filler.  Some of the filler songs are just down right pathetic.  The only reason people forget that half the album was wack was because the other half the song were classic.



AEOM is really an 4/5, and that is being VERY kind with my rating

You don't know music at all to say some bullshit like that....I remember bumpin that album in the 12th grade when it came out shit was classic and still gets play to this day.


when an album has tracks like Amerikkaz Most Wanted  it's going to bump but then you got trash like What's Ya Phone # you realize the truth about the album.  Half the album should be cut
I'm trying very hard to understand your perspective... please list the "half" that should be cut.

Yes, there are some songs that I will skip everytime (i.e., Tradin War Stories, What'z Ya Phone #), but there is a solid album's worth of dope tracks, and most of the remaining tracks are at least decent.


the following should be cut

What's ya Phone #
Wonder why they call you bitch
No More Pain
Tradin War Stories
shorty want to be a thug
when we ride
thug passion
run tha streetz
aint hard 2 find
holla at me

(http://i25.tinypic.com/20hvzme.jpg)

LOL
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: kuruptDPG on January 13, 2010, 06:13:46 AM
lol anythn for attention ,cant believe ppl are replying back to this
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on January 13, 2010, 08:56:35 AM
i guess "the chronic" was wack too, huh?


how do you figure bitch?


Chronic is miles ahead of AEOM
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on January 13, 2010, 09:16:44 AM
nah
all eyez on me>>>>> chronic
2001>>>>all eyez on me




i guess "the chronic" was wack too, huh?


how do you figure bitch?


Chronic is miles ahead of AEOM
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: Portugoal on January 13, 2010, 09:28:49 AM
the following should be cut

What's ya Phone #
Wonder why they call you bitch
No More Pain
Tradin War Stories
shorty want to be a thug
when we ride
thug passion
run tha streetz
aint hard 2 find
holla at me

Apart from "What'z Ya Phone #" I couldn't disagree more.

Tradin War stories, Thug Passion, Shorty Wanna Be A Thug......... man, those (as well as a lot of other songs on this album) are some of the greatest hip hop songs ever made!
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: Mietek23 on January 13, 2010, 12:03:05 PM
the following should be cut

What's ya Phone #
Wonder why they call you bitch
No More Pain
Tradin War Stories
shorty want to be a thug
when we ride
thug passion
run tha streetz
aint hard 2 find
holla at me

Apart from "What'z Ya Phone #" I couldn't disagree more.

Tradin War stories, Thug Passion, Shorty Wanna Be A Thug......... man, those (as well as a lot of other songs on this album) are some of the greatest hip hop songs ever made!

YES, they are - but remember that your arguing with a guy that says Malice In Wonderland is an 8,5/10 album and "Pronto" is a "ok song" ;)
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: hobomotel on January 13, 2010, 12:52:57 PM
the following should be cut

What's ya Phone #
Wonder why they call you bitch
No More Pain
Tradin War Stories
shorty want to be a thug
when we ride
thug passion
run tha streetz
aint hard 2 find
holla at me

Apart from "What'z Ya Phone #" I couldn't disagree more.

Tradin War stories, Thug Passion, Shorty Wanna Be A Thug......... man, those (as well as a lot of other songs on this album) are some of the greatest hip hop songs ever made!

Completely agree with that.
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: U.N.T.O.U.C.H.A.B.L.E. on January 13, 2010, 02:17:10 PM
the following should be cut

What's ya Phone #
Wonder why they call you bitch
No More Pain
Tradin War Stories
shorty want to be a thug
when we ride
thug passion
run tha streetz
aint hard 2 find
holla at me

Apart from "What'z Ya Phone #" I couldn't disagree more.

Tradin War stories, Thug Passion, Shorty Wanna Be A Thug......... man, those (as well as a lot of other songs on this album) are some of the greatest hip hop songs ever made!

YES, they are - but remember that your arguing with a guy that says Malice In Wonderland is an 8,5/10 album and "Pronto" is a "ok song" ;)

malice is not active should be his new name...
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: LAC/EASTSIDE on January 13, 2010, 02:18:31 PM
Is it a classic, sure, because of the major hits it had.  But if you really were to break down the album HALF the album is filler.  Some of the filler songs are just down right pathetic.  The only reason people forget that half the album was wack was because the other half the song were classic.



AEOM is really an 4/5, and that is being VERY kind with my rating

You don't know music at all to say some bullshit like that....I remember bumpin that album in the 12th grade when it came out shit was classic and still gets play to this day.


when an album has tracks like Amerikkaz Most Wanted  it's going to bump but then you got trash like What's Ya Phone # you realize the truth about the album.  Half the album should be cut
I'm trying very hard to understand your perspective... please list the "half" that should be cut.

Yes, there are some songs that I will skip everytime (i.e., Tradin War Stories, What'z Ya Phone #), but there is a solid album's worth of dope tracks, and most of the remaining tracks are at least decent.


the following should be cut

What's ya Phone #
Wonder why they call you bitch
No More Pain
Tradin War Stories
shorty want to be a thug
when we ride
thug passion
run tha streetz
aint hard 2 find
holla at me

yea id definetly say that you should not be listening to hip hop at all.....you must leave this forum effective immediately...nigga please the only song i would cut off from your list would be what'z ya phone number and replace it with hit em up end of story

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA! WHy is this guy even in the forum! He just fucked up his Credibility!! Whenever i see a post by Long Beach Is Active, i aint even going to waste my time to read it! Holla at me????? Aint Hard To Find, with the whole Oakland Clan???? Shorty Wanna Be A Thug??? Wonder Why They Call u bitch??? I think this dude is a hater!! Point blank or maybe just deaf!! Whoever is in charge of Dubcnn should cancel his Name!!! HAHAHAHA! Trading War Stories????
We tradin war stories, we Outlawz on the rise
Jealous niggaz I despise, look in my eyes!!!
Now can your mind picture, a thug nigga drinkin hard liquor
This ghetto life has got me catchin up to God quicker
Who would figure that all I need was a hair trigger
semi-automatic Mack 11 just to scare niggaz
Pardon my thug poetry, but suckers is born everyday
and fear of man - grow on trees
Criminal ties for centuries, a legend in my own rhymes
So niggaz whisper when they mention
Machiavelli was my tutor Donald Goines, my father figure
Moms sent me to go play with the drug dealers
Hits fall, we thug niggaz and we came in packs.
Every one of niggaz strapped sippin on 'nac (Cognac)
In the back, my AR-15
Thuggin till I die, these streets got me cravin thorazine
My lyrics are blueprints to money makin
Fat as that ass that honey shakin

If that aint some deep shit, dont know what is!!!
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: Darksider on January 14, 2010, 07:39:01 AM
ok back to the overanalyzing ::) ;D 8)
i think the mixing on the first disk could have been better!...You just hear a big difference to the previous Dre mixed records, MATW ( or Doggfather after that)!!!!!
And the 2nd disks problem is the tracklist...too many rnb style tracks...It makes you think some songs are wack when they really arent ....I know some people who never listen to the second disk (stupid)
Final analysis:
Its not the best mixed and best structured album ever but it got so many different styles (too many for some people)....and I really like every song on it...form "No more pain" to "What'Z Ya Phone nr" ..but not allyways at the same time!!
The best thing with this album is to put both disks in your double player and forget about the tracklist and listen to the songs you want
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: fabtoxicp on January 14, 2010, 07:50:04 AM
long_beach_iz_active

u are one weird individual.. I bet snoopy himself would've been disgusted by u  ;)
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: JayfromTheBay on January 15, 2010, 04:50:57 AM
Is it a classic, sure, because of the major hits it had.  But if you really were to break down the album HALF the album is filler.  Some of the filler songs are just down right pathetic.  The only reason people forget that half the album was wack was because the other half the song were classic.



AEOM is really an 4/5, and that is being VERY kind with my rating

You don't know music at all to say some bullshit like that....I remember bumpin that album in the 12th grade when it came out shit was classic and still gets play to this day.


when an album has tracks like Amerikkaz Most Wanted  it's going to bump but then you got trash like What's Ya Phone # you realize the truth about the album.  Half the album should be cut
I'm trying very hard to understand your perspective... please list the "half" that should be cut.

Yes, there are some songs that I will skip everytime (i.e., Tradin War Stories, What'z Ya Phone #), but there is a solid album's worth of dope tracks, and most of the remaining tracks are at least decent.


the following should be cut

What's ya Phone #
Wonder why they call you bitch
No More Pain
Tradin War Stories
shorty want to be a thug
when we ride
thug passion
run tha streetz
aint hard 2 find
holla at me


Buahahaha

Wonder Why They Call U Bitch is one of those classic songs!
rest 2:

tracks that i don't like that much is Holla At Me & shorty want to be a thug.

No more Pain? WTF this track is fuckin dope
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: RedMagic213 on January 15, 2010, 05:21:17 AM
i can seriously believe this thread !!

All Eyes On Me was a ground breaking album for hip hop. which other double-album you know sold 10 mill.

Theres plenty of classic track on this album. the only track I realy skip is Whats Ya Phone Number. not bad for a double...

Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: KURUPTION-81 on January 15, 2010, 12:23:21 PM
To me all eyez on me has everything for any mood you are in. Its not my fav album as a whole but it has so many great tracks.
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: 13th Duke on January 15, 2010, 12:25:51 PM
A sacreligious thread. Mind you, strangely enough I woudnt put Pac in my top 5 (he'd be up there like but not that high) but this is one of those albums that changed hip-hop and took it to a whole new level. So many great tracks.
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: midwestryder on January 15, 2010, 02:51:54 PM
you stans are blinded by his hype post death, you can't see the truth
no the only one bliind is the one with snoops dick in his mouth & that is you . you are the true stan around with snoops dick in your mouth & ass. 2pac's aeom is better then every snoop album after doggy style . 2pac's me against the world & strickly 4 my niggaz is better then doggy style. so take you stupid blind ignorant opinion down the road because you just lost your ghetto & hip hop pass 4 good.

Wonder why they call you bitch
No More Pain
Tradin War Stories
shorty want to be a thug
when we ride
thug passion
run tha streetz
aint hard 2 find
holla at me
 these songs are some of my favorite songs on the album .thug passion is one of the best songs on that album . i rather listen to those songs then california love , how do you want it, or 2 amerikkas most want. this just shows you have no idea what you are talking about at all. you have no idea about what is good hip hop at all. everybody has just told you that on here . so that means you don't know shit at all. so take your snoop stan self down the road with your loser self.
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: Sparegeez on January 15, 2010, 03:16:20 PM
LOL he's got to be an alias or a true fucking idiot
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: SheraZ on January 15, 2010, 06:00:12 PM
he just told me that Pronto is deeper than Tradin War Stories ::)


peace
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: U.N.T.O.U.C.H.A.B.L.E. on January 15, 2010, 06:58:52 PM
he just told me that Pronto is deeper than Tradin War Stories ::)


peace

noticed how the fool ain't saying shyt lmao, yea he know he looking real young n dumb rite now
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on January 15, 2010, 07:04:42 PM
Oh I'm looking real good nigga...



Like I told you stupid niggas before, AEOM has many great classic joints, but also a lot of weak cuts.  This SHOULD NOT have been a double LP.



second, Doggystyle kills AEOM on every level, even Pac's mom would c/s that
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: jeromechickenbone on January 15, 2010, 07:20:35 PM
Don't know if dude's serious or not but I guess lmao either way...

Undisputed classic album.  I remember exactly where I was when I saw California Love on mtv.  We'd leave mtv on all day just to try and catch the song.  So that really set off the album.

Easily the best, and don't forget the first, double album in hip hop.  I see people talkin about removing various tracks which are some of the dopest shit on the album!

Very versatile yet cohesive album. 

I actually copped it on 3 diff occasions...either got scratched to hell from always been played or jacked...this is prior to mp3's...

I always love hearing these young bucks that weren't around when an album like this dropped, and then they talk outta their ass about it.

Some of yall need to do your homework. 

Peace
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: U.N.T.O.U.C.H.A.B.L.E. on January 15, 2010, 07:38:53 PM
Oh I'm looking real good nigga...



Like I told you stupid niggas before, AEOM has many great classic joints, but also a lot of weak cuts.  This SHOULD NOT have been a double LP.



second, Doggystyle kills AEOM on every level, even Pac's mom would c/s that

u better off listening to master p & soulja boy or something, stay down n play the playground lil boy....this is a grown men's game... ;)
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on January 15, 2010, 07:42:19 PM
Oh I'm looking real good nigga...



Like I told you stupid niggas before, AEOM has many great classic joints, but also a lot of weak cuts.  This SHOULD NOT have been a double LP.



second, Doggystyle kills AEOM on every level, even Pac's mom would c/s that

u better off listening to master p & soulja boy or something, stay down n play the playground lil boy....this is a grown men's game... ;)



you want to talk about NOT insulting Pac, yet in your sig you compare one of the all time greats to a mixtape rapper in your sig?  That's the greatest insult he's ever had
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: U.N.T.O.U.C.H.A.B.L.E. on January 15, 2010, 08:00:44 PM
Oh I'm looking real good nigga...



Like I told you stupid niggas before, AEOM has many great classic joints, but also a lot of weak cuts.  This SHOULD NOT have been a double LP.



second, Doggystyle kills AEOM on every level, even Pac's mom would c/s that

  

u better off listening to master p & soulja boy or something, stay down n play the playground lil boy....this is a grown men's game... ;)



you want to talk about NOT insulting Pac, yet in your sig you compare one of the all time greats to a mixtape rapper in your sig?  That's the greatest insult he's ever had

Lmao, is that the best you can come up with lil man? come on go back n listen to pronto already, you lost before you started.... ;)
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: Muhfukka on January 15, 2010, 08:50:36 PM
Oh I'm looking real good nigga...



Like I told you stupid niggas before, AEOM has many great classic joints, but also a lot of weak cuts.  This SHOULD NOT have been a double LP.



second, Doggystyle kills AEOM on every level, even Pac's mom would c/s that

u better off listening to master p & soulja boy or something, stay down n play the playground lil boy....this is a grown men's game... ;)



you want to talk about NOT insulting Pac, yet in your sig you compare one of the all time greats to a mixtape rapper in your sig?  That's the greatest insult he's ever had
hahahahahahahahahahahaha
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on January 15, 2010, 10:24:08 PM
for real
lol @ callin crooked a mixtape rapper cuz he doesnt have a retail album out
crookeds worst song>>>>>snoops "gangsta life"....lol





Oh I'm looking real good nigga...



Like I told you stupid niggas before, AEOM has many great classic joints, but also a lot of weak cuts.  This SHOULD NOT have been a double LP.



second, Doggystyle kills AEOM on every level, even Pac's mom would c/s that

  

u better off listening to master p & soulja boy or something, stay down n play the playground lil boy....this is a grown men's game... ;)



you want to talk about NOT insulting Pac, yet in your sig you compare one of the all time greats to a mixtape rapper in your sig?  That's the greatest insult he's ever had

Lmao, is that the best you can come up with lil man? come on go back n listen to pronto already, you lost before you started.... ;)
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: Jaydc on January 16, 2010, 12:11:00 AM
Crookeds  worst mixtape is better then half of snoops retail albums.
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: Salo on January 16, 2010, 12:21:52 AM
THE GUY WHO STARTED THIS THREAD MUST HAVE BEEN BORN IN LIKE 2000. Dude Probly thinks D4L, J-Kwon & Souljah Boy Are RAP LEGENDS. Funny Post. It's Your Opinion Homie, & I Respect It.
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: YoungCrookedI on January 16, 2010, 04:08:08 AM
dubcnn can we ban this fool forever from this forum???
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: Invincible on January 16, 2010, 04:49:02 AM
dubcnn can we ban this fool forever from this forum???

He hasn't really done anything wrong has he? The thing is, he is right. Not all the tracks on this album are masterpieces. This album is far from perfect.
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: Hatesrats™ on January 16, 2010, 05:08:24 AM
Here is my 2 cent's...
If I can play an entire album thru it's entirety without skipping a track, Then It's a classic.
AEOM falls into that catagory for me, yes including "Whatz Ya Phone #" gotta love that Time sample..

But far from "wack" as can be.
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: One2free on January 16, 2010, 06:02:41 AM
^^Surely not the GOAT of albums, but damn calling it 'wack', that can only come from a 'soulja boy type of sound rider' or a str8 hater, speaking of which.......


THE GUY WHO STARTED THIS THREAD MUST HAVE BEEN BORN IN LIKE 2000. Dude Probly thinks D4L, J-Kwon & Souljah Boy Are RAP LEGENDS. Funny Post. It's Your Opinion Homie, & I Respect It.

I did not visit dubcc since last october.
I just read/open every damn thread since that month in 3days.

& I can assume that this thread starter made 2 or 3 threads in a month that u can find, & which talking shit about 2Pac.
looks like a hater, but keep hating on him man, im sure that's to pissed off some of members here.
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: 13th Duke on January 16, 2010, 06:14:55 AM
Here is my 2 cent's...
If I can play an entire album thru it's entirety without skipping a track, Then It's a classic.AEOM falls into that catagory for me, yes including "Whatz Ya Phone #" gotta love that Time sample..

But far from "wack" as can be.

Being able to play a full album in its entirety doesn't make it anywhere near a classic mate it just means its good! It should actually be a prerequisite that its good enough to play all the way through.
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on January 16, 2010, 06:31:01 AM

so all eyez on me isnt classic then....there are many fans in this thread who cant play it thru without skippin...lol




Here is my 2 cent's...
If I can play an entire album thru it's entirety without skipping a track, Then It's a classic.AEOM falls into that catagory for me, yes including "Whatz Ya Phone #" gotta love that Time sample..

But far from "wack" as can be.

Being able to play a full album in its entirety doesn't make it anywhere near a classic mate it just means its good! It should actually be a prerequisite that its good enough to play all the way through.
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: scarface2oh4 on January 16, 2010, 02:14:37 PM
Let's face the facts, "Malice In Wonderland" was in many ways WACK
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: Gambler on January 16, 2010, 04:03:19 PM


when a poster shows so much bias towards a rapper who doesn't deserve it, and so much hate towards another rapper that doesn't deserve it, how can anyone take their opinion seriously? I mean the thread title is how the album was "wack" in many ways, but the post says it is wack but a classic? seriously?

the album has a couple filler tracks that I don't like, but it is certified classic. I'm surprised not many on the board like Holla at Me - a track I consider to be quite a good diss track. Hit em Up had the venom, Holla at me had the emotion.

but "back to the lecture at hand", certified stans such as the thread starter have no right to then defend their post by calling other users stans. it is just ... well, retarded. :)
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: Chamillitary Click on January 16, 2010, 04:05:13 PM
All Eyez On Me was a classic.

nobody can make a double disc classic. 8)
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: killakastro on January 16, 2010, 04:25:04 PM
"Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK".....i stopped reading here

Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: westside159 on January 16, 2010, 08:05:34 PM
Man All Eyez On Me was dope period  Even Whatz Ya Phone Number is on some Morris Day and the Time and Prince type 80's vibe to it ,  it wasnt wack , it was just something different from Pac
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on January 16, 2010, 08:36:33 PM
be careful cham....you got people screamin we want biggie wit that 1...lol




All Eyez On Me was a classic.

nobody can make a double disc classic. 8)
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on January 17, 2010, 01:43:41 PM
"Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK".....i stopped reading here




because that's really all you need to know
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: B.A. on January 17, 2010, 02:50:02 PM
I think most of the songs on AEOM get 10/10 or 9/10 rating, there are some that get 8/10 and 7/10 which are still good songs but not classics, Whatz Ya Phone Number just doesn't fit Pac and doesn't fit the rest of the album. They could have trimmed some of the fat off and made just one classic album (would have been hard to pick and choose with all the great songs to choose from), my favorite is still Me Against the World but AEOM is definitally not wack. It's kinda crazy to me that the original poster would qoute classic lines from Snoops "It Ain't No Fun" and use it as his sig. and then think that Malice In Wonderland was a good album. Let's face it, the Snoop on Doggy Style and the Snoop on Malice In Wonderland are two completely different artists (lyrically, creatively and gangsterally speaking; you know what I mean ;D) , the Snoop Doggy Dogg from Doggy Style would have bitch slapped the Malice In Wonderland Snoop Dogg for even thinking about putting out some bulls#!t like that. I'm not hating on Snoop, I'm a big fan of his (old Snoop that is) but I can't take the original posters comment on AEOM seriously when he likes both Snoops but that's just my opinion and it really don't mean s#!t. Maybe he just likes the Malice In Wonderland cover? I admit it's tight, it's gangsta but it's false advertizing as hell.
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on January 17, 2010, 05:04:52 PM
snoop ya boy is rollin in hsi grave....stop hatin on him you rollin 20 crip you




"Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK".....i stopped reading here




because that's really all you need to know
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: U.N.T.O.U.C.H.A.B.L.E. on January 17, 2010, 05:15:20 PM
"Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK".....i stopped reading here




because that's really all you need to know

u gotta be a whiteboy for sure lmao....
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on January 17, 2010, 05:56:22 PM
"Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK".....i stopped reading here




because that's really all you need to know

u gotta be a whiteboy for sure lmao....


funny coming from a bitch
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: soulja85 on January 17, 2010, 06:07:23 PM
I'd love to see any other rapper recored a better album in the same amount of time tupac spent on it, which was 2 weeks right?
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on January 17, 2010, 06:10:29 PM
2 weeks on a double album?




I'd love to see any other rapper recored a better album in the same amount of time tupac spent on it, which was 2 weeks right?
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: U.N.T.O.U.C.H.A.B.L.E. on January 17, 2010, 06:15:19 PM
"Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK".....i stopped reading here




because that's really all you need to know

u gotta be a whiteboy for sure lmao....


funny coming from a bitch

aww did i hurt your feelings hoe... ;)
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on January 17, 2010, 06:28:02 PM
"Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK".....i stopped reading here




because that's really all you need to know

u gotta be a whiteboy for sure lmao....


funny coming from a bitch

aww did i hurt your feelings hoe... ;)

LMAO, you in my threads bitch, you the one that I got wrapped around my finger
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on January 17, 2010, 06:37:09 PM
everyone loves you snoop...everyone is wrapped about your finger baby cuz....lol
hows ya album sales doin over there?
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: U.N.T.O.U.C.H.A.B.L.E. on January 17, 2010, 06:46:51 PM
"Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK".....i stopped reading here




because that's really all you need to know

u gotta be a whiteboy for sure lmao....


funny coming from a bitch

aww did i hurt your feelings hoe... ;)

LMAO, you in my threads bitch, you the one that I got wrapped around my finger

yea im your wack ass thread makin you look stupid constantly....it aint my fault you was born retarded... ;)
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: soulja85 on January 18, 2010, 03:20:42 AM
2 weeks on a double album?




I'd love to see any other rapper recored a better album in the same amount of time tupac spent on it, which was 2 weeks right?

Yeah there is a video of him giving the outlawz a bollocking cause they're to slow and he goes on to say he only spent a few weeks doing the whole album.
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: One2free on January 18, 2010, 03:44:18 AM
hows ya album sales doin over there?


Good question.

Let me guess...

My answer is:

'more than a wack album like AEOM, riiiiiiiiight?
So how many did Malice In Wonderland sell yet?














Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on January 18, 2010, 05:55:50 AM
haha whoopin on the lawz...lol
thats waz up but damn 2weeks thats crazy




2 weeks on a double album?




I'd love to see any other rapper recored a better album in the same amount of time tupac spent on it, which was 2 weeks right?

Yeah there is a video of him giving the outlawz a bollocking cause they're to slow and he goes on to say he only spent a few weeks doing the whole album.
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: Mac Dre Fan on January 18, 2010, 08:20:34 AM
Here is my 2 cent's...
If I can play an entire album thru it's entirety without skipping a track, Then It's a classic.
AEOM falls into that catagory for me, yes including "Whatz Ya Phone #" gotta love that Time sample..

But far from "wack" as can be.


agreed exactly
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: Detox Iz Not Active on January 18, 2010, 05:01:33 PM
Outlawz should have been banned from music
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on January 18, 2010, 05:15:20 PM
haha i actually agree....they overrated but only reason they made it is cuz of pac imo



Outlawz should have been banned from music
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: Styles1 on January 18, 2010, 07:39:51 PM
I thought What's ya phone number was tight it samples one of Prince classic songs.

technically Morris Day & The Time, but they were under Prince, so yes.... and the song isn't as bad as some here make it to be. Then again, I am a fan of 777-9311.
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: jeromechickenbone on January 18, 2010, 07:45:58 PM
I thought What's ya phone number was tight it samples one of Prince classic songs.

technically Morris Day & The Time, but they were under Prince, so yes.... and the song isn't as bad as some here make it to be. Then again, I am a fan of 777-9311.

how do u feel about 867-5309??
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: Styles1 on January 18, 2010, 08:05:34 PM
I thought What's ya phone number was tight it samples one of Prince classic songs.

technically Morris Day & The Time, but they were under Prince, so yes.... and the song isn't as bad as some here make it to be. Then again, I am a fan of 777-9311.

how do u feel about 867-5309??

It's ok...... classic only because so many people dialed that number after that song came out. 
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: V2DHeart on January 19, 2010, 02:22:21 AM
haha i actually agree....they overrated but only reason they made it is cuz of pac imo



Outlawz should have been banned from music

Outlawz died with Kadadi
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: Jaydc on January 19, 2010, 02:27:29 AM
kadafi was over rated as hell.Fatal and napoleon were far superior.
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: V2DHeart on January 19, 2010, 03:18:07 AM
kadafi was over rated as hell.Fatal and napoleon were far superior.

Kadafi & Fatal together - sh!ts on any other Outlaw member period!! If fatal (and Interscope) would drop some of the material they have together, it would prove that. Kadafi was poetic, and resembled a younger 2Pac, at 19 he had years to improve despite being far superior lyrically to people like Napoleon, EDI etc. There are rumours he even ghost wrote 2 Outlaw tracks as well after 2Pacs death. If you think Napoleon was superior than Kadafi you'll hear Thug Scriptures and laugh. Rah Rah can out-rap him syllable-wise, or any other young pre-schooler. Only so much I can stand "High, Sky, Bye, Die"/"Good, Hood, Should, Would" being rhymed and realise how wack Napoleon actually is/was
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: papa-smurf on January 19, 2010, 09:43:47 AM
u crazy in yo head,this is some pf 2pac best work,all eyez on me is my favorite pac album
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: V2DHeart on January 20, 2010, 01:04:53 PM
u crazy in yo head,this is some pf 2pac best work,all eyez on me is my favorite pac album

The guy who wrote the topic isn't a Hip Hop fan though. He likes Soulja Boy, Modern pop Snoop Dogg, and other pop stuff
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: fabtoxicp on January 20, 2010, 01:24:23 PM
Hussein Fatal was the best Outlaw - and Young Noble evolved into a really dope mc. Gonzoe is tight too.. today at least
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: U.N.T.O.U.C.H.A.B.L.E. on January 20, 2010, 02:08:09 PM
u crazy in yo head,this is some pf 2pac best work,all eyez on me is my favorite pac album

The guy who wrote the topic isn't a Hip Hop fan though. He likes Soulja Boy, Modern pop Snoop Dogg, and other pop stuff

in other words he's a bubble gum fan..yes
 
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on January 20, 2010, 09:00:14 PM
yeah that chicken noodle soup...lol





u crazy in yo head,this is some pf 2pac best work,all eyez on me is my favorite pac album

The guy who wrote the topic isn't a Hip Hop fan though. He likes Soulja Boy, Modern pop Snoop Dogg, and other pop stuff

in other words he's a bubble gum fan..yes
 
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: V2DHeart on January 21, 2010, 04:11:05 AM
u crazy in yo head,this is some pf 2pac best work,all eyez on me is my favorite pac album

The guy who wrote the topic isn't a Hip Hop fan though. He likes Soulja Boy, Modern pop Snoop Dogg, and other pop stuff

in other words he's a bubble gum fan..yes
 

Yes. That would have done as well  8) Corny pop rap, girly hip hop, young pre-teen rap. Lots would have done :D
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: midwestryder on February 03, 2010, 10:58:39 AM
Outlawz should have been banned from music
if Outlawz should have been banned from music then you should have been banned from this website .
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on February 03, 2010, 04:55:40 PM
damn your response could have been much worse...haha




Outlawz should have been banned from music
if Outlawz should have been banned from music then you should have been banned from this website .
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: SheraZ on February 04, 2010, 11:08:09 AM
outlawz still droppin heat 2day.. Fatal's Born Legendary, FATAL, in the line of fire.....   Nobe's Noble Justice.. Outlaw 4 life 2005 LP, We Want In, neva surrenda, ride wit us or collide wit us... Nobe & sticMan, soldier 2 soldier, Nobe & EDI against all odds...

And now im pretty sure that their album droppin with Detox and BOSS will be dope aswell.. with Fatal on it etc..

peace
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: Chamillitary Click on February 04, 2010, 12:07:52 PM
well after six pages of nonsense, i think it's safe to say it's one of the greatest albums; just a pure classic. 8)
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: Blood$ on February 04, 2010, 12:09:40 PM
damn your response could have been much worse...haha




Outlawz should have been banned from music
if Outlawz should have been banned from music then you should have been banned from this website .

LOL
Title: Re: Let's face the facts, "All Eyez On Me" was in many ways WACK
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on February 04, 2010, 12:31:23 PM
6 pages on this in 2010.  STILL hatin' on Tha Outlawz.  LOL them niggaz from tha westside left niggaz on stuck