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Title: Who here thinks Suge is a piece of shit?
Post by: Chad Vader on October 14, 2009, 07:49:06 PM

now i know theres alotta suge haters here despite wat he did for the westcoast n alotta artists but ,
cmon,
if he ddnt get sold out by some of his artists, ddnt have legal troubles n ddnt get  blackballed by the industry- deathrow would have been the shit!!!

who thinks it should be returned to him?
with suge at the helm tha roe n the whole coast would be on the map once again..


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Title: Re: Who here thinks Suge is a piece of shit?
Post by: Reprise91 on October 14, 2009, 08:13:25 PM
Im with u, biggzy is the biggest suge groupie its not funny.
Title: Re: Who here thinks Suge is a piece of shit?
Post by: BIGWORM on October 14, 2009, 08:53:50 PM
Defiantly ruined Death Row...
Title: Re: Who here thinks Suge is a piece of shit?
Post by: westsiderider323 on October 14, 2009, 08:54:31 PM
Defiantly ruined Death Row...
Title: Re: Who here thinks Suge is a piece of shit?
Post by: AGeesta on October 14, 2009, 11:33:32 PM
Defiantly ruined Death Row...
Title: Re: Who here thinks Suge is a piece of shit?
Post by: David Mack on October 14, 2009, 11:54:18 PM
Suge was my homie back in tha day but he fucked up and fuck ups are unacceptable plus Ima have more money then dat nigga when ima outta jail. ;D
Title: Re: Who here thinks Suge is a piece of shit?
Post by: AGeesta on October 14, 2009, 11:55:25 PM
Suge was my homie back in tha day but he fucked up and fuck ups are unacceptable plus Ima have more money then dat nigga when ima outta jail. ;D

LOL
Title: Re: Who here thinks Suge is a piece of shit?
Post by: thisoneguy360 on October 15, 2009, 12:29:04 AM
Man you guys are all haters. Suge has done so much good for the industry and the fact that you all sit here and talk shit like bitches really shows how bitter y'all are! If you don't respect Suge you don't respect hip hop!























Just kidding, fuck him.
Title: Re: Who here thinks Suge is a piece of shit?
Post by: AGeesta on October 15, 2009, 12:32:49 AM
Man you guys are all haters. Suge has done so much good for the industry and the fact that you all sit here and talk shit like bitches really shows how bitter y'all are! If you don't respect Suge you don't respect hip hop!























Just kidding, fuck him.

LOL you had me fooled for a minute
Title: Re: Who here thinks Suge is a piece of shit?
Post by: Portugoal on October 15, 2009, 05:16:01 AM
Suge Knight is one of the reasons this message board exists and ya'll are posting here.
Title: Re: Who here thinks Suge is a piece of shit?
Post by: Blasphemy on October 15, 2009, 05:16:32 AM
Man you guys are all haters. Suge has done so much good for the industry and the fact that you all sit here and talk shit like bitches really shows how bitter y'all are! If you don't respect Suge you don't respect hip hop!























Just kidding, fuck him.

LOL you had me fooled for a minute
Suge was my homie back in tha day but he fucked up and fuck ups are unacceptable plus Ima have more money then dat nigga when ima outta jail. ;D

LOL
Title: Re: Who here thinks Suge is a piece of shit?
Post by: ironmike on October 15, 2009, 05:49:42 AM
allthough the music that came out at deathrow was amazing, it wasnt because of suge, it was because of dre who built that label musicwise, and then secondly snoop, and the rest of the artists. suge was helping deathrow fall apart indirectly, by trying to beat up and punk his artists, and then not paying his artists was another factor. everybody wanted to get off the label, because of it.

even if suge became rich again, and started a new label, nobody who has any sense would want to sign to him, besides up and coming artists who are desparate to get into the game, and ignore the fact that they are going to get punked, and will want to leave later.
Title: Re: Who here thinks Suge is a piece of shit?
Post by: A1 on October 15, 2009, 08:18:27 AM
What some of these guys dont understand when they come into the industry, is that acting like a gangster will only get you so far before people have enough of it. You can only bully your way so far up the ladder, then when you get there unless smartin up your coming straight back down. Prime example....suge knight!

Title: Re: Who here thinks Suge is a piece of shit?
Post by: Mackin on October 15, 2009, 08:21:15 AM
He did what he did, cuz he was given the Opportunity..
Title: Re: Who here thinks Suge is a piece of shit?
Post by: Dre-Day on October 15, 2009, 08:41:20 AM
this could make DJR cry though
Title: Re: Who here thinks Suge is a piece of shit?
Post by: MOB on October 15, 2009, 08:55:47 AM
He started that mathorfucker gangsta shit and that's the motherfucker thanks he got???
Title: Re: Who here thinks Suge is a piece of shit?
Post by: Dre-Day on October 15, 2009, 08:56:22 AM
He started that mathorfucker gangsta shit and that's the motherfucker thanks he got???
basically
Title: Re: Who here thinks Suge is a piece of shit?
Post by: Jimmy H. on October 15, 2009, 11:43:03 AM
Suge Knight is one of the reasons this message board exists and ya'll are posting here.
Did he help design the forum?
Title: Re: Who here thinks Suge is a piece of shit?
Post by: o g s u e s o n e on October 15, 2009, 11:47:10 AM
i dont think hes a piece of shit but i think hes a fu**in :loser:
Title: Re: Who here thinks Suge is a piece of shit?
Post by: Invincible on October 15, 2009, 11:52:51 AM
allthough the music that came out at deathrow was amazing, it wasnt because of suge, it was because of dre who built that label musicwise, and then secondly snoop, and the rest of the artists. suge was helping deathrow fall apart indirectly, by trying to beat up and punk his artists, and then not paying his artists was another factor. everybody wanted to get off the label, because of it.

even if suge became rich again, and started a new label, nobody who has any sense would want to sign to him, besides up and coming artists who are desparate to get into the game, and ignore the fact that they are going to get punked, and will want to leave later.

He did start a new label didn't he? Black Ball Records or something? Or was that just a rumour?
Title: Re: Who here thinks Suge is a piece of shit?
Post by: DeeezNuuuts83 on October 15, 2009, 12:28:48 PM
He did start a new label didn't he? Black Ball Records or something? Or was that just a rumour?
That was a label he was connected to (and there weren't any explanations as to his actual involvement), but it was only ever mentioned in the preview of his reality TV show (Unfinished Business) that never got picked up by a network.
Title: Re: Who here thinks Suge is a piece of shit?
Post by: Jay Rome on October 15, 2009, 12:33:52 PM
I don't think Suge is a piece of shit he done no different then Jimmy Iovine, P. Diddy, Eazy-E, Master P, Baby and other crocked Ceo's in the rap game. Suge also gave back a lot to the community which the media never mentioned at all. The only reason many on here hate on Suge because they are Dre,Snoop and DPG dick riders.
Title: Re: Who here thinks Suge is a piece of shit?
Post by: Blasphemy on October 15, 2009, 12:36:19 PM
allthough the music that came out at deathrow was amazing, it wasnt because of suge, it was because of dre who built that label musicwise, and then secondly snoop, and the rest of the artists. suge was helping deathrow fall apart indirectly, by trying to beat up and punk his artists, and then not paying his artists was another factor. everybody wanted to get off the label, because of it.

even if suge became rich again, and started a new label, nobody who has any sense would want to sign to him, besides up and coming artists who are desparate to get into the game, and ignore the fact that they are going to get punked, and will want to leave later.

He did start a new label didn't he? Black Ball Records or something? Or was that just a rumour?

He tried 2 make Blac Ball Records, but it never got started (during its inception he was filming Unfinished business). But because a Rock Label under the same name was already in business,s they filed a lawsuit as such he can't get the name so the company doesn't exist.
Title: Re: Who here thinks Suge is a piece of shit?
Post by: V2DHeart on October 15, 2009, 12:53:25 PM
allthough the music that came out at deathrow was amazing,it wasnt because of suge, it was because of dre who built that label musicwise, and then secondly snoop, and the rest of the artists. suge was helping deathrow fall apart indirectly, by trying to beat up and punk his artists, and then not paying his artists was another factor. everybody wanted to get off the label, because of it.

even if suge became rich again, and started a new label, nobody who has any sense would want to sign to him, besides up and coming artists who are desparate to get into the game, and ignore the fact that they are going to get punked, and will want to leave later.

Suge & co. got Dre out of a soiled contract. Suge also hussled to get the money to fund the company. The people surrounding him brought it down IMO. The affiliated police staff, known drug dealers, greedy accountants/financers. Suge was just a middle man, it was even said he had NO CLUE to management or business, so you can see why his power, muscle, or posture only got him so far. I think he done well. At least he never stole his artists shine
Title: Re: Who here thinks Suge is a piece of shit?
Post by: Jeremy812 on October 15, 2009, 02:51:16 PM
Dude made some mistakes yes but I respect him a lot. If it hadn't been for him there would prolly be no Chronic, Doggystle, All Eyez On Me, and so on so I can't hate on him.
Title: Re: Who here thinks Suge is a piece of shit?
Post by: acgrundy on October 15, 2009, 03:24:10 PM
Suge was a piece of the greatest part of rap history.  I don't hate the guy.  Everyone makes mistakes.
Title: Re: Who here thinks Suge is a piece of shit?
Post by: Blood$ on October 15, 2009, 04:37:48 PM
the title of this thread is classic alone
Title: Re: Who here thinks Suge is a piece of shit?
Post by: Jay Rome on October 15, 2009, 06:27:59 PM
I don't think Suge is a piece of shit he done no different then Jimmy Iovine, P. Diddy, Eazy-E, Master P, Baby and other crocked Ceo's in the rap game.

(http://journeyamerica.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/idiot.jpg)

it is easy to talk shit behind your keyboard and call names so I want even insult you. You are just an angry euro who gets no pussy and hate on other niggas.....I mean men because you not even Black.
Title: Re: Who here thinks Suge is a piece of shit?
Post by: Dre-Day on October 16, 2009, 04:09:28 AM
I don't think Suge is a piece of shit he done no different then Jimmy Iovine, P. Diddy, Eazy-E, Master P, Baby and other crocked Ceo's in the rap game.

(http://journeyamerica.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/idiot.jpg)

it is easy to talk shit behind your keyboard and call names so I want even insult you. You are just an angry euro who gets no pussy and hate on other niggas.....I mean men because you not even Black.
faggot :nahnah:
Title: Re: Who here thinks Suge is a piece of shit?
Post by: Jay Rome on October 16, 2009, 11:13:03 AM
I don't think Suge is a piece of shit he done no different then Jimmy Iovine, P. Diddy, Eazy-E, Master P, Baby and other crocked Ceo's in the rap game.

(http://journeyamerica.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/idiot.jpg)

it is easy to talk shit behind your keyboard and call names so I want even insult you. You are just an angry euro who gets no pussy and hate on other niggas.....I mean men because you not even Black.
faggot :nahnah:

The man that had you is a faggot for having a certified male groupie such as yourself.....Now run along little fun boy.
Title: Re: Who here thinks Suge is a piece of shit?
Post by: Dre-Day on October 16, 2009, 12:15:27 PM
that's a huge bitch
Title: Re: Who here thinks Suge is a piece of shit?
Post by: Chad Vader on October 16, 2009, 04:01:30 PM
I don't think Suge is a piece of shit he done no different then Jimmy Iovine, P. Diddy, Eazy-E, Master P, Baby and other crocked Ceo's in the rap game.

(http://journeyamerica.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/idiot.jpg)

it is easy to talk shit behind your keyboard and call names so I want even insult you.
You are just an angry euro who gets no pussy and hate on other niggas.....
I mean men because you not even Black.


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Title: Re: Who here thinks Suge is a piece of shit?
Post by: Dre-Day on October 17, 2009, 02:42:15 AM
hahahahaha ;D
Title: Re: Who here thinks Suge is a piece of shit?
Post by: YSH on October 17, 2009, 05:55:46 AM
dat fat fuck dumber than my 4 year old cousin
Title: Re: Who here thinks Suge is a piece of shit?
Post by: Mr. VIP on October 17, 2009, 09:41:30 AM
biggest idiot in the history of the music business fuck the devil in the red dress
 
8)
Title: Re: Who here thinks Suge is a piece of shit?
Post by: eNgIeS on October 17, 2009, 10:21:30 PM
Its funny, dude was behind getting Biggie killed, he beats up women, etc etc and yet some people admire him. Let alone ruining what could've been a dynasty that lasted until this day!

If Suge didnt be so fraudulent and kept the streets out the label, Dre may not have left, 2Pac may not have ever died, Sam Sneed RBX and Rage may have seen there albums come out etc etc etc
Title: Re: Who here thinks Suge is a piece of shit?
Post by: Dre-Day on October 20, 2009, 02:39:37 AM
Its funny, dude was behind getting Biggie killed, he beats up women, etc etc and yet some people admire him.


add this to your list;
-Convincing a coked out D.O.C to get in Dr.Dre's ear.  >:( >:(
-Broke up NWA  >:(
-Harassed and robbed Jerry Heller's house


woah, i'm not so sure about that.
if anything, greed made the group fall apart
Title: Re: Who here thinks Suge is a piece of shit?
Post by: WestCoastR3DUBZ on October 20, 2009, 04:25:44 PM
I do
Title: Re: Who here thinks Suge is a piece of shit?
Post by: The "Untouchable" DJR on October 20, 2009, 10:39:19 PM
Its funny, dude was behind getting Biggie killed, he beats up women, etc etc and yet some people admire him.


add this to your list;
-Convincing a coked out D.O.C to get in Dr.Dre's ear.  >:( >:(
-Broke up NWA  >:(
-Harassed and robbed Jerry Heller's house



woah, I'm not so sure about that.
if anything, greed made the group fall apart


indirectly  ;)


He was also responsible for Renny Harlin and Geena Davis' divorce, the sarin gas attack on the Tokyo metro, New Kids On The Block breaking up, the attack on Nancy Kerriga and more recently Live Free Or Die Hard getting a PG13 rating rather than an R...


































Indirectly  ;)

Title: Re: Who here thinks Suge is a piece of shit?
Post by: Dre-Day on October 21, 2009, 01:08:08 AM
Suge Knight is still cancer though
Title: Re: Who here thinks Suge is a piece of shit?
Post by: Mackin on October 21, 2009, 05:34:40 AM
..Well the old adage is best "Power Corrupts, Absolute Powers  corrupts absolutely..
I really do believe that Suge had the best intention that rapidly diminished as the company/label grew and mixed street life with business.
It happens..

What is really important here, is where are his former artists, what have they achieved since severing ties with the Label Mogul, Are the still performing?

Regardless of what the critics may say, But Dre And Snoop have been doing good ever since..
That to me, is important-post DR era-not whether Suge is a piece of Sh*t or not...
Just my two euros! ;)
Title: Re: Who here thinks Suge is a piece of shit?
Post by: Taclivin on October 21, 2009, 02:52:04 PM
Its funny, dude was behind getting Biggie killed, he beats up women, etc etc and yet some people admire him.


add this to your list;
-Convincing a coked out D.O.C to get in Dr.Dre's ear.  >:( >:(
-Broke up NWA  >:(
-Harassed and robbed Jerry Heller's house



woah, I'm not so sure about that.
if anything, greed made the group fall apart


indirectly  ;)


He was also responsible for Renny Harlin and Geena Davis' divorce, the sarin gas attack on the Tokyo metro, New Kids On The Block breaking up, the attack on Nancy Kerriga and more recently Live Free Or Die Hard getting a PG13 rating rather than an R...


































Indirectly  ;)


lmao funny shit. But why are we arguing this fact shit deathrow was over back in 96 let the label die in peace. and let wideawake release a few gems from time to time!
Title: Re: Who here thinks Suge is a piece of shit?
Post by: The "Untouchable" DJR on October 22, 2009, 04:07:42 AM
Its funny, dude was behind getting Biggie killed, he beats up women, etc etc and yet some people admire him.


add this to your list;
-Convincing a coked out D.O.C to get in Dr.Dre's ear.  >:( >:(
-Broke up NWA  >:(
-Harassed and robbed Jerry Heller's house



woah, I'm not so sure about that.
if anything, greed made the group fall apart


indirectly  ;)


He was also responsible for Renny Harlin and Geena Davis' divorce, the sarin gas attack on the Tokyo metro, New Kids On The Block breaking up, the attack on Nancy Kerriga and more recently Live Free Or Die Hard getting a PG13 rating rather than an R...

Indirectly  ;)


Since you can't connect the dots:
Stealing Dre from Ruthless >>>> The end of NWA  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(


Nobody actually stole him away from Ruthless he wanted to get out of there himself, at the time he probably was happy meeting up with someone like Suge.

What would you have rather had, Dre staying at Ruthless reluctantly cause the way things were going there NWA was finished anyway. Honestly it fucked me up at the time when he left there cause I was a huge NWA/Eazy fan but by the time The Chronic had been released I was happy with the way things turned out.

The end of NWA gave birth to something much bigger and better...
Title: Re: Who here thinks Suge is a piece of shit?
Post by: Tutlock on October 22, 2009, 09:27:41 AM


Nobody actually stole him away from Ruthless he wanted to get out of there himself, at the time he probably was happy meeting up with someone like Suge.



suge was n.w.a.īs bodyguard so he was around and convinced dre to leave . of course the whole 90s music scene would have been different without death row. good music that started a new era that gave us some good music, a lot of crappy followers and a shitload of wiggers around the world.

the guy is still a piece of shit. at least he used to be entertaining, not so much these days
Title: Re: Who here thinks Suge is a piece of shit?
Post by: Dre-Day on October 22, 2009, 09:49:25 AM
Its funny, dude was behind getting Biggie killed, he beats up women, etc etc and yet some people admire him.


add this to your list;
-Convincing a coked out D.O.C to get in Dr.Dre's ear.  >:( >:(
-Broke up NWA  >:(
-Harassed and robbed Jerry Heller's house



woah, I'm not so sure about that.
if anything, greed made the group fall apart


indirectly  ;)


He was also responsible for Renny Harlin and Geena Davis' divorce, the sarin gas attack on the Tokyo metro, New Kids On The Block breaking up, the attack on Nancy Kerriga and more recently Live Free Or Die Hard getting a PG13 rating rather than an R...

Indirectly  ;)


Since you can't connect the dots:
Stealing Dre from Ruthless >>>> The end of NWA  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(


Nobody actually stole him away from Ruthless he wanted to get out of there himself, at the time he probably was happy meeting up with someone like Suge.

What would you have rather had, Dre staying at Ruthless reluctantly cause the way things were going there NWA was finished anyway. Honestly it fucked me up at the time when he left there cause I was a huge NWA/Eazy fan but by the time The Chronic had been released I was happy with the way things turned out.

The end of NWA gave birth to something much bigger and better...
you're right, Dre was so stupid to listen to the idiots Suge Knight & The D.O.C.

Title: Re: Who here thinks Suge is a piece of shit?
Post by: Chad Vader on October 22, 2009, 10:02:22 AM
Its funny, dude was behind getting Biggie killed, he beats up women, etc etc and yet some people admire him.


add this to your list;
-Convincing a coked out D.O.C to get in Dr.Dre's ear.  >:( >:(
-Broke up NWA  >:(
-Harassed and robbed Jerry Heller's house



woah, I'm not so sure about that.
if anything, greed made the group fall apart


indirectly  ;)


He was also responsible for Renny Harlin and Geena Davis' divorce, the sarin gas attack on the Tokyo metro, New Kids On The Block breaking up, the attack on Nancy Kerriga and more recently Live Free Or Die Hard getting a PG13 rating rather than an R...

Indirectly  ;)


Since you can't connect the dots:
Stealing Dre from Ruthless >>>> The end of NWA  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(


Nobody actually stole him away from Ruthless he wanted to get out of there himself, at the time he probably was happy meeting up with someone like Suge.

What would you have rather had, Dre staying at Ruthless reluctantly cause the way things were going there NWA was finished anyway. Honestly it fucked me up at the time when he left there cause I was a huge NWA/Eazy fan but by the time The Chronic had been released I was happy with the way things turned out.

The end of NWA gave birth to something much bigger and better...


Here's the scenario as I see it; (some speculation,some facts  :P ;))
D.O.C is at the time drugged the fuck out and depressed.
His throat is damaged,his career is basicilly over.... He's no longer priority for Ruthless/Eazy-E.
He feels like he's kicked to the curb. This makes him talk a whole lot of shit about Eazy. (creating bad vibes around the studio)
Then Suge present D.O.C some plans that can save his record business career. > D.O.C gets in Dre's ear.
Dre at the time is a little fragile because his brother recently got killed,so when D.O.C present him with plans that can make their lives brighter, he jumps on board.

So indirectly Suge broke up NWA..... directly,I blame The D.O.C  :P



"The Chronic" would probably seen the light no matter what.
It's not like Suge found the artists featured on The Chronic...  ;)
Title: Re: Who here thinks Suge is a piece of shit?
Post by: xover on October 22, 2009, 10:05:43 AM
was behind the best label ever.....but could not stay out of jail...so fucked up.....did some silly stuff along the way but also did alot of good things, mothers day,fathers day and christmas (which people dont like to bring up).....
Title: Re: Who here thinks Suge is a piece of shit?
Post by: xover on October 22, 2009, 10:07:33 AM
Its funny, dude was behind getting Biggie killed, he beats up women, etc etc and yet some people admire him.


add this to your list;
-Convincing a coked out D.O.C to get in Dr.Dre's ear.  >:( >:(
-Broke up NWA  >:(
-Harassed and robbed Jerry Heller's house



woah, I'm not so sure about that.
if anything, greed made the group fall apart


indirectly  ;)


He was also responsible for Renny Harlin and Geena Davis' divorce, the sarin gas attack on the Tokyo metro, New Kids On The Block breaking up, the attack on Nancy Kerriga and more recently Live Free Or Die Hard getting a PG13 rating rather than an R...


































Indirectly  ;)


  remember.....what ever it was.....suge did it!!!!! ;) ;D
Title: Re: Who here thinks Suge is a piece of shit?
Post by: scarface2oh4 on October 22, 2009, 10:37:06 AM
HAHA, what a stupid question...
Title: Re: Who here thinks Suge is a piece of shit?
Post by: Dre-Day on October 22, 2009, 10:39:25 AM
Its funny, dude was behind getting Biggie killed, he beats up women, etc etc and yet some people admire him.


add this to your list;
-Convincing a coked out D.O.C to get in Dr.Dre's ear.  >:( >:(
-Broke up NWA  >:(
-Harassed and robbed Jerry Heller's house



woah, I'm not so sure about that.
if anything, greed made the group fall apart


indirectly  ;)


He was also responsible for Renny Harlin and Geena Davis' divorce, the sarin gas attack on the Tokyo metro, New Kids On The Block breaking up, the attack on Nancy Kerriga and more recently Live Free Or Die Hard getting a PG13 rating rather than an R...

Indirectly  ;)


Since you can't connect the dots:
Stealing Dre from Ruthless >>>> The end of NWA  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(


Nobody actually stole him away from Ruthless he wanted to get out of there himself, at the time he probably was happy meeting up with someone like Suge.

What would you have rather had, Dre staying at Ruthless reluctantly cause the way things were going there NWA was finished anyway. Honestly it fucked me up at the time when he left there cause I was a huge NWA/Eazy fan but by the time The Chronic had been released I was happy with the way things turned out.

The end of NWA gave birth to something much bigger and better...


Here's the scenario as I see it; (some speculation,some facts  :P ;))
D.O.C is at the time drugged the fuck out and depressed.
His throat is damaged,his career is basicilly over.... He's no longer priority for Ruthless/Eazy-E.
He feels like he's kicked to the curb. This makes him talk a whole lot of shit about Eazy. (creating bad vibes around the studio)
Then Suge present D.O.C some plans that can save his record business career. > D.O.C gets in Dre's ear.
Dre at the time is a little fragile because his brother recently got killed,so when D.O.C present him with plans that can make their lives brighter, he jumps on board.

So indirectly Suge broke up NWA..... directly,I blame The D.O.C  :P



"The Chronic" would probably seen the light no matter what.
It's not like Suge found the artists featured on The Chronic...  ;)

exactly, Suge didn't create that album.

but hey, the guy you're responding to has a t-shirt of Suge Knight :laugh: