West Coast Connection Forum

DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: LIL GUY on August 15, 2002, 03:26:12 PM

Title: MAN VS. MACHINE NOT LOOKIN GOOD
Post by: LIL GUY on August 15, 2002, 03:26:12 PM
IS IT JUST ME OR HAS ALL THE XZIBIT SONGS OF THIS ALBUM THAT HAVE BEEN LEAKED BEEN TRASH.  SO FAR WE HEARD 3 SONGS AND ALL THREE HAVE BEEN AVG OR BELOW.  SIMPHONY X IS TRASH, MULTIPLY IS TRASH, AND LOSE YOUR MIND IS TRASH.  IT SEEMS LIKE XZIBIT IS STARTING TO RHYME LIKE EMINEM SAYING COMEDIC SHIT TRYIN TO BE FUNNY, SHIT LIKE, "MAGIC JOHNSON SHOULD RUN FOR MAYOR, LITTLE KIM SOLD ME PUSSY BUT I DIDDNT PAY HER".  THIS SHOULD GO INTO THE TOP 100 WORST RHYMES OF ALL TIME.
XZIBIT WAS SAYING THAT HE PUT HIS ALL INTO THIS ALBUM LYRICALY BUT SO FAR IM NOT SEEING IT.
Title: Re: MAN VS. MACHINE NOT LOOKIN GOOD
Post by: Jome on August 15, 2002, 03:31:11 PM
::)

I heard 2 joints so far, and they were both bangers.
Title: Re: MAN VS. MACHINE NOT LOOKIN GOOD
Post by: Juice on August 15, 2002, 03:37:31 PM
Quote
IS IT JUST ME OR HAS ALL THE XZIBIT SONGS OF THIS ALBUM THAT HAVE BEEN LEAKED BEEN TRASH.  SO FAR WE HEARD 3 SONGS AND ALL THREE HAVE BEEN AVG OR BELOW.  SIMPHONY X IS TRASH, MULTIPLY IS TRASH, AND LOSE YOUR MIND IS TRASH.  IT SEEMS LIKE XZIBIT IS STARTING TO RHYME LIKE EMINEM SAYING COMEDIC SHIT TRYIN TO BE FUNNY, SHIT LIKE, "MAGIC JOHNSON SHOULD RUN FOR MAYOR, LITTLE KIM SOLD ME PUSSY BUT I DIDDNT PAY HER".  THIS SHOULD GO INTO THE TOP 100 WORST RHYMES OF ALL TIME.
XZIBIT WAS SAYING THAT HE PUT HIS ALL INTO THIS ALBUM LYRICALY BUT SO FAR IM NOT SEEING IT.

You right, but let's give him another chance. That's the do or die album IMO. Restless had great productions but was a lil bit disappointing IMO. 2nd disappointing album means :'(
Title: Re: MAN VS. MACHINE NOT LOOKIN GOOD
Post by: platinumk777 on August 15, 2002, 03:39:37 PM
Yup, I gotta say, things are looking bad for X to the Z. I thought Restless was a very solid, bangin album, contrary to what many people think. It just goes to show what my standards are, and if Man vs Machine can't even live up to em, I can't imagine what others are gonna say. But I'm goin way over my head, we'll see how things play out once I get my hands on the retail album
Title: Re: MAN VS. MACHINE NOT LOOKIN GOOD
Post by: S.G.V. on August 15, 2002, 03:50:02 PM
Quote
IS IT JUST ME OR HAS ALL THE XZIBIT SONGS OF THIS ALBUM THAT HAVE BEEN LEAKED BEEN TRASH.  SO FAR WE HEARD 3 SONGS AND ALL THREE HAVE BEEN AVG OR BELOW.  SIMPHONY X IS TRASH, MULTIPLY IS TRASH, AND LOSE YOUR MIND IS TRASH.  IT SEEMS LIKE XZIBIT IS STARTING TO RHYME LIKE EMINEM SAYING COMEDIC SHIT TRYIN TO BE FUNNY, SHIT LIKE, "MAGIC JOHNSON SHOULD RUN FOR MAYOR, LITTLE KIM SOLD ME PUSSY BUT I DIDDNT PAY HER".  THIS SHOULD GO INTO THE TOP 100 WORST RHYMES OF ALL TIME.
XZIBIT WAS SAYING THAT HE PUT HIS ALL INTO THIS ALBUM LYRICALY BUT SO FAR IM NOT SEEING IT.

Title: Re: MAN VS. MACHINE NOT LOOKIN GOOD
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on August 15, 2002, 03:54:25 PM
The game is over, and u guys lose...
Title: Re: MAN VS. MACHINE NOT LOOKIN GOOD
Post by: Murrow on August 15, 2002, 04:04:29 PM
I don't think this album will do well.  West coast hip-hop needs help.
Title: Re: MAN VS. MACHINE NOT LOOKIN GOOD
Post by: Real_G on August 15, 2002, 04:05:52 PM
Actully we've heard 5 songs...

Multiply
Symphony X
Gambler
Break ya self
lose your mind

I didnt think this sounded that good at first but Gambler is driven my crazy. I cant wait to hear this in full. I wasnt sure bout buyin this at first but damn I still got some faith n xzibit. I can tell this aint no classic but im sure it'll be worth the $20.
Title: Re: MAN VS. MACHINE NOT LOOKIN GOOD
Post by: Real_G on August 15, 2002, 04:09:29 PM
Quote
I don't think this album will do well.  West coast hip-hop needs help.


I can tell you dont know shit about underground westcoast. Its doing just fine if you ask me. And im sure im repeating myself when i say this....SALES DONT MEAN SHIT ON QUALITY!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: MAN VS. MACHINE NOT LOOKIN GOOD
Post by: Murrow on August 15, 2002, 04:14:19 PM
Quote


I can tell you dont know shit about underground westcoast. Its doing just fine if you ask me. And im sure im repeating myself when i say this....SALES DONT MEAN SHIT ON QUALITY!!!!!!!!



[size=8]West Coast Hip-Hop needs help[/size]

Who the fuck are you?  The only people who give a fuck about West Coast hip-hop are peeps on the West coast.  I live on the East coast, and over here no one gives a fuck about it.  I'm not talkin bout sales, over all, it's not getting heard.
Title: Re: MAN VS. MACHINE NOT LOOKIN GOOD
Post by: Real_G on August 15, 2002, 04:20:19 PM
Quote


Who the fuck are you?  The only people who give a fuck about West Coast hip-hop are peeps on the West coast.  I live on the East coast, and over here no one gives a fuck about it.  I'm not talkin bout sales, over all, it's not getting heard.


You still hear it dont you? Its getting heard by everyone on this board. Everyone that likes rap knows about westcoast rap and im sure most of them like at least ONE west rapper. Like i said im sure you dont know about underground west because the quality of the music is still great. ANd what does this have to do with the east. People on the east like it dont they? The quality of the music will change if all you listen to is the popular artists. The underground scene will always be great and that'll never change.
Title: (JAE)
Post by: HairWuzEre on August 15, 2002, 05:54:06 PM
Quote
You still hear it dont you? Its getting heard by everyone on this board.
That's because this board is a Westcoast forum.

Quote
Everyone that likes rap knows about westcoast rap
Of course everybody "knows about Westcoast rap," but that doesn't mean that they like it.

Quote
I'm sure most of them like at least ONE west rapper.
Liking only one westcoast rapper isn't good enough.

Quote
Like i said im sure you dont know about underground west
That happens to be the problem that Incognito is addressing when he says that Westcoast is "not getting heard."

Quote
underground west...the quality of the music is still great.
True.

Quote
And what does this have to do with the east?
::) ::) ::)Westcoast hip hop needs to be (and should be) heard everywhere (including the east, and NOT just on the westcoast. That's what Incognito means when he says that "West coast hip-hop needs help."

Quote
People on the east like it dont they?
Yes, you are correct, people on the east coast do like west coast hip hop. However, very few eastcoast people actually like westcoast hip hop because of the fact that very few eastcoast people actually get to hear westcoast hip hop!

Quote
The quality of the music will change if all you listen to is the popular artists.
That's my point exactly (most eastcoast cats only listen to popular westcoast rap).

Quote
The underground scene will always be great and that'll never change.
That's (also) true, but that's not enough. You see, we need the mainstream scene to be great, as well (and not just the underground scene).

Peace.
Title: Re: MAN VS. MACHINE NOT LOOKIN GOOD
Post by: Sikotic™ on August 15, 2002, 06:27:47 PM
So far from what I heard its a step up from Restless. I still miss the shit from At the Speed of Life. That's when X was in his prime.
Title: Re: MAN VS. MACHINE NOT LOOKIN GOOD
Post by: Young Dan Iza on August 15, 2002, 06:41:46 PM
i like multiply alot i think that is 10x better than X,,,i also like lose your mind,,,,i wasnt really feelin the beat on symphony doe
Title: Re: (JAE)
Post by: Real_G on August 15, 2002, 07:01:28 PM
Quote

That's because this board is a Westcoast forum.

Of course everybody "knows about Westcoast rap," but that doesn't mean that they like it.

Liking only one westcoast rapper isn't good enough.

That happens to be the problem that Incognito is addressing when he says that Westcoast is "not getting heard."

True.

::) ::) ::)Westcoast hip hop needs to be (and should be) heard everywhere (including the east, and NOT just on the westcoast. That's what Incognito means when he says that "West coast hip-hop needs help."

Yes, you are correct, people on the east coast do like west coast hip hop. However, very few eastcoast people actually like westcoast hip hop because of the fact that very few eastcoast people actually get to hear westcoast hip hop!

That's my point exactly (most eastcoast cats only listen to popular westcoast rap).

That's (also) true, but that's not enough. You see, we need the mainstream scene to be great, as well (and not just the underground scene).

Peace.


Ok but you broke up what i said too much and missed my point. I dont care if people on the east hear it or not, all i know is that i hear it and like it. But I know they do because no matter where you are you can hear music. east or west. Some of the stuff you said was really stupid. "liking only one west rapper isnt good enough" Ok why? I like way more than one so dont get me wrong but why do you care what other people like. People dont have to like westcoast rap at all. They should but if they dont then its they're loss.

"Westcoast hip hop needs to be (and should be) heard everywhere (including the east, and NOT just on the westcoast. That's what Incognito means when he says that "West coast hip-hop needs help."

Why? As long as we hear it does it matter? And it is heard everywhere. As long as you have the internet you can hear it. And Ive never been to a cd store and never seen a west cd. How do you know what Incognito means anyway. He might mean westcoast hip hop is shitty and thats why it needs help. I sure hope thats not what he ment...

"we need the mainstream scene to be great, as well (and not just the underground scene)."

Again i ask, WHY? who cares as long as we can hear it then thats great. I DO NOT EVEN CARE THE SLITEST BIT IF WESTCOAST RAP IS POPULAR! in fact id rather it wasnt so it could still hav the underground sound to (some of) it. who cares if the mainstream is great. I hate 3 quarters of what is considered "mainstream".

Westcoast rap isnt in danger, It isnt dead and never was. Ill be just as happy lisening to my DJ Quik cd if I was the only person in this whole world that bought it.
Title: Re: Re: (JAE)
Post by: HairWuzEre on August 15, 2002, 07:58:21 PM
Quote
Ok but you broke up what i said too much and missed my point. I dont care if people on the east hear it or not, all i know is that i hear it and like it. But I know they do because no matter where you are you can hear music. east or west.
Alright, I'm feeling you.

Quote
Some of the stuff you said was really stupid. "liking only one west rapper isnt good enough" Ok why? I like way more than one so dont get me wrong but why do you care what other people like. People dont have to like westcoast rap at all. They should but if they dont then its they're loss.
"Stupid"? No. I didn't mean that people "have to" like western rappers; what I meant by "liking only one west rapper isnt good enough," was basically just that west coast artists need more support right now (especially from non-west coast people) because they're not getting enough props from other areas of the country (because, if they don't, they may not get the motivation that they need to continue making music).

Quote
"Westcoast hip hop needs to be (and should be) heard everywhere (including the east, and NOT just on the westcoast. That's what Incognito means when he says that "West coast hip-hop needs help."

Why? As long as we hear it does it matter? And it is heard everywhere. As long as you have the internet you can hear it. And Ive never been to a cd store and never seen a west cd. How do you know what Incognito means anyway. He might mean westcoast hip hop is shitty and thats why it needs help. I sure hope thats not what he ment...
Eastern radio stations don't play Westcoast tracks nearly as much as Western radio stations play Eastcoast tracks. Also, I don't know that that is what Incognito meant, but IMO it sure seemed like it, especially based on the overall message of his posts.

Quote
"we need the mainstream scene to be great, as well (and not just the underground scene)."

Again i ask, WHY? who cares as long as we can hear it then thats great. I DO NOT EVEN CARE THE SLITEST BIT IF WESTCOAST RAP IS POPULAR! in fact id rather it wasnt so it could still hav the underground sound to (some of) it. who cares if the mainstream is great. I hate 3 quarters of what is considered "mainstream".
We need the mainstream scene to be strong, because then Western hip hop will be more likely to be gain play in different areas of the country, thereby promoting unity (between different areas).

Quote
Westcoast rap isnt in danger, It isnt dead and never was. Ill be just as happy lisening to my DJ Quik cd if I was the only person in this whole world that bought it.
No, it's not in danger, but it could certainly use a boost (i.e. "Oh My God" and "Detox"). ;)

Peace
Title: Re: MAN VS. MACHINE NOT LOOKIN GOOD
Post by: West Coast Veteran on August 15, 2002, 08:10:14 PM
I'm feelin' all the tracks.
Title: Re: MAN VS. MACHINE NOT LOOKIN GOOD
Post by: Hatesrats™ on August 15, 2002, 08:14:21 PM

I just love when S.G.V. post's......

Whoa!!! Aria...

That ass is so amazing... :P

Snoop or any muzik can't fuck wit' that funk!

Peace
Hatesrats 2oo2
Title: Re: MAN VS. MACHINE NOT LOOKIN GOOD
Post by: Don Seer on August 15, 2002, 09:00:21 PM
i'm not feelin it either... multiply was 'aiiight' but nothing amazing..
Title: Re: MAN VS. MACHINE NOT LOOKIN GOOD
Post by: js83 on August 15, 2002, 09:03:11 PM
Quote



Symphony X


that song is wack as fuck..and the hook really kills it..
Title: Re: MAN VS. MACHINE NOT LOOKIN GOOD
Post by: Lil Jay on August 15, 2002, 09:31:25 PM
Quote
Yup, I gotta say, things are looking bad for X to the Z. I thought Restless was a very solid, bangin album, contrary to what many people think. It just goes to show what my standards are, and if Man vs Machine can't even live up to em, I can't imagine what others are gonna say. But I'm goin way over my head, we'll see how things play out once I get my hands on the retail album

Title: Re: MAN VS. MACHINE NOT LOOKIN GOOD
Post by: themovie on August 15, 2002, 09:33:17 PM
All of you hate on xzibit for the beef with snoop dogg ?
According to jome,we are all snoop dickryda for that  ::)
Title: Re: MAN VS. MACHINE NOT LOOKIN GOOD
Post by: DJ_Jay_Deee on August 15, 2002, 10:07:03 PM
Quote
IS IT JUST ME OR HAS ALL THE XZIBIT SONGS OF THIS ALBUM THAT HAVE BEEN LEAKED BEEN TRASH.  SO FAR WE HEARD 3 SONGS AND ALL THREE HAVE BEEN AVG OR BELOW.  SIMPHONY X IS TRASH, MULTIPLY IS TRASH, AND LOSE YOUR MIND IS TRASH.  IT SEEMS LIKE XZIBIT IS STARTING TO RHYME LIKE EMINEM SAYING COMEDIC SHIT TRYIN TO BE FUNNY, SHIT LIKE, "MAGIC JOHNSON SHOULD RUN FOR MAYOR, LITTLE KIM SOLD ME PUSSY BUT I DIDDNT PAY HER".  THIS SHOULD GO INTO THE TOP 100 WORST RHYMES OF ALL TIME.
XZIBIT WAS SAYING THAT HE PUT HIS ALL INTO THIS ALBUM LYRICALY BUT SO FAR IM NOT SEEING IT.


I agree 100%
Title: Re: MAN VS. MACHINE NOT LOOKIN GOOD
Post by: Juice on August 15, 2002, 11:37:42 PM
I agree. And i'm the last person in the world who can be labelled as a Snoop dickrida. ;D
Title: Re: MAN VS. MACHINE NOT LOOKIN GOOD
Post by: Banjo on August 16, 2002, 12:47:41 AM
Quote
i'm not feelin it either... multiply was 'aiiight' but nothing amazing..

Title: Re: MAN VS. MACHINE NOT LOOKIN GOOD
Post by: Jome on August 16, 2002, 02:50:16 AM
Quote
All of you hate on xzibit for the beef with snoop dogg ?
According to jome,we are all snoop dickryda for that  ::)



Xzibit doesn't have beef with Snoop Dogg, but Snoop Dogg gave Xzibit a little sharp remark on a track to diss Suge Knight.
That's not much of a beef.
And you are the only one on this board who apparently SWITCHED on Xzibit after your hero gave him a little remark in a song.


You always blowing things out of proportion to make Snoop come out on top.
You are the prime example of a extreme Snoop-fan together with Slickkafella.

And Antonio: What you mean about do or die album?
Restless went 2x plat.

I have only heard 2 tracks yet, so I can't judge anything, but those 2 tracks were both dope. Both with dope Dre-production, and with NICE guest-spots from Snoop & Nate Dogg.
Title: Re: MAN VS. MACHINE NOT LOOKIN GOOD
Post by: themovie on August 16, 2002, 02:54:26 AM
Quote



Xzibit doesn't have beef with Snoop Dogg, but Snoop Dogg gave Xzibit a little sharp remark on a track to diss Suge Knight.
That's not much of a beef.
And you are the only one on this board who apparently SWITCHED on Xzibit after your hero gave him a little remark in a song.


You always blowing things out of proportion to make Snoop come out on top.
You are the prime example of a extreme Snoop-fan together with Slickkafella.

And Antonio: What you mean about do or die album?
Restless went 2x plat.

I have only heard 2 tracks yet, so I can't judge anything, but those 2 tracks were both dope. Both with dope Dre-production, and with NICE guest-spots from Snoop & Nate Dogg.


Maybe u are high off too much crack.
I've said Xzibit is a bitch but i will support his music cuz i think his album will be tight,i don't think i'm a xzibit hater.
ARE U ABLE TO UNDERSTAND ?
Title: Re: MAN VS. MACHINE NOT LOOKIN GOOD
Post by: Juice on August 16, 2002, 03:02:45 AM
Quote
And Antonio: What you mean about do or die album?
Restless went 2x plat.

I was referring to my consideration for Xz. It's a do or die album for me. He betta make it good like his first 2, or i'll start loosing respect for him. That's all. 2x plat doesnt mean a shit. Da Game Is To Be Sold Not To Be Sold was a 3x plat if i'm right. Does it mean it's a good album? Naw, cause IMO it's garbage!
Title: Re: MAN VS. MACHINE NOT LOOKIN GOOD
Post by: Gangsta_T on August 16, 2002, 03:09:32 AM
Quote
So far from what I heard its a step up from Restless. I still miss the shit from At the Speed of Life. That's when X was in his prime.


word silkotic !!!
at the speed of life is da shit !!!

hey..btw..the honey looks dope ass fuck !!!!!
much love :D
Title: Re: MAN VS. MACHINE NOT LOOKIN GOOD
Post by: themovie on August 16, 2002, 03:11:54 AM
Quote

I was referring to my consideration for Xz. It's a do or die album for me. He betta make it good like his first 2, or i'll start loosing respect for him. That's all. 2x plat doesnt mean a shit. Da Game Is To Be Sold Not To Be Sold was a 3x plat if i'm right. Does it mean it's a good album? Naw, cause IMO it's garbage!

Xzibit will be worried if u will start loosing respect for him,
so worried he will end his music career
Title: Re: MAN VS. MACHINE NOT LOOKIN GOOD
Post by: Juice on August 16, 2002, 04:20:24 AM
Quote

Xzibit will be worried if u will start loosing respect for him,
so worried he will end his music career

Will you ever stop? Another example for Overseer.
Title: Re: MAN VS. MACHINE NOT LOOKIN GOOD
Post by: DJ_Jay_Deee on August 16, 2002, 05:15:03 AM
Quote
And Antonio: What you mean about do or die album?Restless went 2x plat.


So?? His first 2 albums were way better than Restless. And they didn't sell that much. Xzibit never should of hooked up with dre. I fear the same thing might happen to Rakim.
Title: Re: MAN VS. MACHINE NOT LOOKIN GOOD
Post by: budsmokeronly on August 16, 2002, 05:21:00 AM
I personally think restless is a dope album, and I can play it all the way through and enjoy all the tracks, plus there are some major heaters on there.  The only song I have heard so far off man vs machine is multiply, and I am not that impressed.  I think X was a much better first single.  But I will wait till I hear the whole album to make a judgment.
Title: Re: MAN VS. MACHINE NOT LOOKIN GOOD
Post by: Gangsta_T on August 16, 2002, 05:37:48 AM
Quote


So?? His first 2 albums were way better than Restless. And they didn't sell that much. Xzibit never should of hooked up with dre. I fear the same thing might happen to Rakim.


word up dogg !!!

Title: Re: MAN VS. MACHINE NOT LOOKIN GOOD
Post by: Smooth on August 16, 2002, 05:48:40 AM
Yeah im not feeling many of these tracks either. "Multiply" is the only decent track I have heard so far, and im not feelin "Symphony X" at all...
Title: Re: MAN VS. MACHINE NOT LOOKIN GOOD
Post by: min0rity on August 16, 2002, 06:44:13 AM
xzibit is been whack ever since restless...his first 2 albums were very dope and xzibit said himself man v. machine is gonna have the same formula restless had so damn..another whack album

btw where did you guys heard restless went 2 million???? i thought he only sold 800000 copies..show the proof

oh yeah WESTCOAST is straight up dead..that snoop allstars is mostly garbage, paid the cost to be the boss would be another last meal so it will be alright i hope, crooked i's album COULD be dope but i have a feeling it will be ruined production and guest spots wise, this is the life i lead was alright but not as good as RAW, it takes dre 3289472394 years to produce one song that he REALLY didn't even produce himself lol, knoc is probably the most horrible rapper since vanilla ice, and eminem and rakim ain't even west coast...but for eminem, his album is another mmlp so it was whack, and rakim's shit would be dope if it ever gets out..lol...anyways, sorry i just had to get that off my chest..so basically west coast is in 3 people's hands=ras kass, snoop(maybe), crooked i(maybe)
Title: Re: MAN VS. MACHINE NOT LOOKIN GOOD
Post by: J.Roller on August 16, 2002, 06:51:34 AM
Quote
I don't think this album will do well.  West coast hip-hop needs help.


FOR REAL! Westcoast aint doin shit!! What a shame
Title: Re: MAN VS. MACHINE NOT LOOKIN GOOD
Post by: Real_G on August 16, 2002, 08:45:53 AM
Quote


oh yeah WESTCOAST is straight up dead..that snoop allstars is mostly garbage, paid the cost to be the boss would be another last meal so it will be alright i hope, crooked i's album COULD be dope but i have a feeling it will be ruined production and guest spots wise, this is the life i lead was alright but not as good as RAW, it takes dre 3289472394 years to produce one song that he REALLY didn't even produce himself lol, knoc is probably the most horrible rapper since vanilla ice, and eminem and rakim ain't even west coast...but for eminem, his album is another mmlp so it was whack, and rakim's shit would be dope if it ever gets out..lol...anyways, sorry i just had to get that off my chest..so basically west coast is in 3 people's hands=ras kass, snoop(maybe), crooked i(maybe)


Ok this is the last time ill be replying to these stupid ass posts about the west being dead. If my words can keep anyone from thinking this ill be happy.

Ok let me catch my breath here.....because WHoly Shit! how can you say that! ras kass, snoop and crooked i have the west in there hands?!? thats such bullshit. You can hav your opinion but thats just bullshit. The west consists of so much more than those people. Forget DPG theres so much outside of it. And you know what, you didnt even MENTION dj quik in your list. Which shows me either you forgot about him or your just really ignorent and dont know much about westcoast rap. Now dont take this as a diss because you could of wrote that really fast and forgot to mention some people.

You guys just dont get it do you? I know some people are feelin me here. WESTCOAST RAP HAS MORE THAN 10 PEOPLE IN ITS LIST!!!! try getting a fuckin celly cel or spice 1 cd. Try Richie Rich, Suga Free(everyone in quiks camp), C-bo, B-legit, Dru Down, Luniz, E-A-Ski, Kam.....

There is so much more than what you guys think, When you think theres no new cds out your wrong, theres always a new west cd out. Because if dre, snoop, knoc, Daz, kurupt or anyone along that line never makes a cd again im sure ill be able to sleep at night.

The west aint dead, never was, never will be.
Title: Re: MAN VS. MACHINE NOT LOOKIN GOOD
Post by: budsmokeronly on August 16, 2002, 09:25:47 AM
Quote
You guys just dont get it do you? I know some people are feelin me here. WESTCOAST RAP HAS MORE THAN 10 PEOPLE IN ITS LIST!!!! try getting a fuckin celly cel or spice 1 cd. Try Richie Rich, Suga Free(everyone in quiks camp), C-bo, B-legit, Dru Down, Luniz, E-A-Ski, Kam.....


word up
Title: Re: MAN VS. MACHINE NOT LOOKIN GOOD
Post by: Jome on August 16, 2002, 10:25:17 AM
Quote


Maybe u are high off too much crack.
I've said Xzibit is a bitch but i will support his music cuz i think his album will be tight,i don't think i'm a xzibit hater.
ARE U ABLE TO UNDERSTAND ?



::)
And why is Xzibit a bitch?
Because Snoop mentioned him in ONE rhyme in a diss DIRECTED AT SUGE ??
Title: Re: MAN VS. MACHINE NOT LOOKIN GOOD
Post by: VinZz on August 16, 2002, 12:00:36 PM
i've been reading this shit and i agree with jome.. its seems coo' to call xzibit a bitch now

sammy damn that pic alone irritates me.. dumb soccer fuck and oh yeah.... i think man vs machine is gonna be like restless 2.. still good enough to bump
Title: Re: MAN VS. MACHINE NOT LOOKIN GOOD
Post by: D.R.E.-Dogg on August 16, 2002, 02:42:28 PM
It's a shame how yall be hatin on X now.


Quote


I fear the same thing might happen to Rakim.



to me this is straight up hatin, did u ever hear Rakim over a Dre beat?

Dre said he wants this to be one of the best album he ever worked on and he's been workin on it for a LONG as time.
It'll be off tha fuckin hook and Rakim himself wanted Dre to produce tha majority of his album.

As for X
Just like Jome I only heard 2 tracks and I feel both of them.
Loosin' Yout Mind was DOPE.
And when yall heard it first u agreed it was dope (I don't know who exactly but nearly everybody was feelin it)
plus most people said Multiply grew on them and they would really like it after some time

suddenly they wack...
Title: Re: MAN VS. MACHINE NOT LOOKIN GOOD
Post by: Twentytwofifty on August 16, 2002, 02:46:47 PM
I've only heard Multiply and that's all I want to hear until it comes out.  Then I judge.
Title: Re: MAN VS. MACHINE NOT LOOKIN GOOD
Post by: Murrow on August 16, 2002, 03:43:20 PM
I know Dre did "Multiply," but who did "Lose Your Mind"?
Title: Re: MAN VS. MACHINE NOT LOOKIN GOOD
Post by: topdogg187 on August 16, 2002, 03:52:11 PM
Quote
I know Dre did "Multiply," but who did "Lose Your Mind"?


dre produced that song too homie.
Title: Re: MAN VS. MACHINE NOT LOOKIN GOOD
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on August 16, 2002, 04:43:15 PM
Quote
I know Dre did "Multiply," but who did "Lose Your Mind"?





If u say "Gangsta Lovin" sounds like a Dre beat, than "Losin Your Mind" sounds like a Dre beat X 10...Go figure...
Title: Re: MAN VS. MACHINE NOT LOOKIN GOOD
Post by: teecee on August 16, 2002, 05:51:38 PM
I don't think people are "hatin" on Xzibit if they say his new shit is wack.......people can have an opinion.  I have been an Xzibit fan since his increible verse on King tee's Freestyle Ghetto, and i continue to be a big fan..  Unlike many people, i thought Restless was awesome for what it was supposed to be (a commercial album with all single-type songs)......

However, when Xzibit says he is stepping up the lyrics on this one, how can he explain the lyrics on the five leaked songs?  Cuz, compared to even his lyrics on Restless, they are trash.  You could honestly take any five songs of the Restless and they would be better than the leaked Man vs. Machine songs...

THe beats sound hollow & the songs sound rushed.......i Still have faith that his album will be strong, but i honestly don't feel it will be near album of the year quality.  I am sure there are going to be some amazing songs on the album, along with some pretty bad ones. Xzibit has always been a little inconsistent, so this is why noone should be surprised.  

i wish Xzibit could make an album with some of his original producers like E-Swift, as well as Premier, Alchemist, Hi-tek, Dre, and Quik producing.  Dre would have a lot less control for it to be a true Xzibit album (Dre is the shit, and as i said, so was Restless, but to me Xzibit's new shit is mostly his version of Dre's 2001......and it doesn't always work for him)
Title: Re: MAN VS. MACHINE NOT LOOKIN GOOD
Post by: Juice on August 17, 2002, 12:38:25 AM
Quote
to me this is straight up hatin, did u ever hear Rakim over a Dre beat?

Dre said he wants this to be one of the best album he ever worked on and he's been workin on it for a LONG as time.
It'll be off tha fuckin hook and Rakim himself wanted Dre to produce tha majority of his album.

Btw the answer is YES. Look at the Truth Hurts album. But i hope you right cause Rakim aint a fucking newbie.
Title: Re: MAN VS. MACHINE NOT LOOKIN GOOD
Post by: serv-on on August 17, 2002, 12:44:40 AM
i didn't even hear the sampler. I just hope the album has some good features, because them songs will be the only one i play.
Title: Re: MAN VS. MACHINE NOT LOOKIN GOOD
Post by: Gangsta_T on August 19, 2002, 02:05:05 AM
Quote
i didn't even hear the sampler. I just hope the album has some good features, because them songs will be the only one i play.


hehe
Title: Re: MAN VS. MACHINE NOT LOOKIN GOOD
Post by: +[=PHI@SK0=]+ on August 19, 2002, 02:14:08 AM
I've heard Multiply which I think is wack, because it's nothing new to me. Symphony In X Major was tyte because it was pretty original for a westcoast beat, I liked it alot. As far as Xzibit's rhymes on his last album, and ya'll are saying his new album's lyrics are wack, I'm unimpressed. Thats true about how he's always saying he's putting all his effort into writing the dopest lyrics, but I'm not impressed. Especially when the other day I heard him on the radio freestyle the greatest verse I've ever heard him spit (if it was really a freestyle or if they just said it was). Either way, it was better than anything I've ever heard from him.
Title: Re: MAN VS. MACHINE NOT LOOKIN GOOD
Post by: min0rity on August 19, 2002, 05:39:27 AM
Quote


Ok this is the last time ill be replying to these stupid ass posts about the west being dead. If my words can keep anyone from thinking this ill be happy.

Ok let me catch my breath here.....because WHoly Shit! how can you say that! ras kass, snoop and crooked i have the west in there hands?!? thats such bullshit. You can hav your opinion but thats just bullshit. The west consists of so much more than those people. Forget DPG theres so much outside of it. And you know what, you didnt even MENTION dj quik in your list. Which shows me either you forgot about him or your just really ignorent and dont know much about westcoast rap. Now dont take this as a diss because you could of wrote that really fast and forgot to mention some people.

You guys just dont get it do you? I know some people are feelin me here. WESTCOAST RAP HAS MORE THAN 10 PEOPLE IN ITS LIST!!!! try getting a fuckin celly cel or spice 1 cd. Try Richie Rich, Suga Free(everyone in quiks camp), C-bo, B-legit, Dru Down, Luniz, E-A-Ski, Kam.....

There is so much more than what you guys think, When you think theres no new cds out your wrong, theres always a new west cd out. Because if dre, snoop, knoc, Daz, kurupt or anyone along that line never makes a cd again im sure ill be able to sleep at night.

The west aint dead, never was, never will be.


WTF?? west will never be dead??? LMAO....kid don't joke like that..west HAS been dead for years....dude you act like those peeps i forgot to mention are supposed to be tight??? lol come on man....c-bo, b-legit, dru-down??? lol yeah i gave spice one credit he has put on dope shit, and to dj quik but what have they been doing now??? i won' speak on quik cuz i haven't heard his new shit yet but i heard its garbage...thats why i didnt mention those ones that you mention cuz to me they haven't came with shit that i like, maybe for you they're dope so i'm not going to question your taste in music but to me they ain't shit NOW!! i mean don't act like you're so smart in west coast music or something....lol...i treat underground the same as commerical rap but i could guarntee you that all those names you mentioned outside of cali..NOBODY would know them..just tell me, what impact have they made??? how many classic albums have they made???? i understand you're probably from the west and are just supporting the artists but don't get so fucking technical about this shit cuz the west is dead...i mean you want to name west coast artists...you forgot..mc eiht, too short, e-40, technine, bad azz, above the law, WARREN G!!! JUST to name a few.... ::) i only mention the ones i mentioned cuz they actually have released good shit recently and they might have the potential...the ones you named...lmao DON'T JOKE.....
Title: Re: MAN VS. MACHINE NOT LOOKIN GOOD
Post by: LIL GUY on August 19, 2002, 07:01:29 AM
HOW ARE WE HATIN ON XZIBIT IF WE SAY HIS SHIT IS TRASH,  IF I SAY "THE GAME IS TO BE SOLD" IS WACK AM I HATIN ON SNOOP? IF I SAY "NASTRADAMAS" WAS WACK AM I HATIN ON NAS?
IM SURE SOME PEEPS LIKE THOSE ALBUMS, BUT JUST CAUSE I DONT IM HATIN ON THOSE ARTIST.  I DONT HATE XZIBT, I HATE THOSE GARBAGE ASS SONGS THAT HE MADE.  I DONT KNOW XZIBIT WHY SHOULD I HATE HIM.  IF HIM AND SNOOP HAVE BEEF WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH ME.  I THINK JAY-Z MAKES GOOD MUSIC SOMETIMES AND IM A NAS FAN.  YOU CAN STILL BE A XZIBIT FAN ADMIT HIS SHIT IS TERRIBLE.  IF SNOOP'S SOUNDS LIKE THE PROMO THAN I WILL BE THE FIRST TOO SAY THAT ITS WACK,  I DID NOT LIKE THE ADVANCE.  DOES THAT MEAN IM HATIN ON SNOOP?  YALL NEED TO DEFINE WHAT HATIN IS.
Title: Re: MAN VS. MACHINE NOT LOOKIN GOOD
Post by: Real_G on August 19, 2002, 09:40:37 AM
Quote


WTF?? west will never be dead??? LMAO....kid don't joke like that..west HAS been dead for years....dude you act like those peeps i forgot to mention are supposed to be tight??? lol come on man....c-bo, b-legit, dru-down??? lol yeah i gave spice one credit he has put on dope shit, and to dj quik but what have they been doing now??? i won' speak on quik cuz i haven't heard his new shit yet but i heard its garbage...thats why i didnt mention those ones that you mention cuz to me they haven't came with shit that i like, maybe for you they're dope so i'm not going to question your taste in music but to me they ain't shit NOW!! i mean don't act like you're so smart in west coast music or something....lol...i treat underground the same as commerical rap but i could guarntee you that all those names you mentioned outside of cali..NOBODY would know them..just tell me, what impact have they made??? how many classic albums have they made???? i understand you're probably from the west and are just supporting the artists but don't get so fucking technical about this shit cuz the west is dead...i mean you want to name west coast artists...you forgot..mc eiht, too short, e-40, technine, bad azz, above the law, WARREN G!!! JUST to name a few.... ::) i only mention the ones i mentioned cuz they actually have released good shit recently and they might have the potential...the ones you named...lmao DON'T JOKE.....



I dont understand, how can it be dead if westcoast rappers keep makin albums. As long as cds are being made by west artists then the west is still alive. Yeah i didnt name ALL of them because I dont know every single west rapper. But how can you say some of that shit has no potential?  alot of them have recently come out with albums or are working on them. Plus your acting like they hav to make classics just to be good. Plus its in your opinion. ALOT of people on this board like all those artists i mentioned so dont act like they aint shit.
Title: Re: MAN VS. MACHINE NOT LOOKIN GOOD
Post by: caTASHtrophe on August 19, 2002, 10:26:27 AM
First things first, the only track i heard from the new X album is "Loosing your mind" which i think is cool..

I think Man V Machine is gonna be a good album and better than Restless. I just don't understand why u all are hating on the album? when it drops and turns out better than u expected u all are gonna look silly.

Don't pass judgement on it til u got it.

And the West ain't dead, non while....

Ras
Saafir
Dre
Snoop
Crooked I
Lootpack
Defari
Alkoholiks
King T
Kurupt
Soopafly
Xzibit

etc etc as long as these ppl exist and bring out great stuff, west is alive and kicking
Title: Re: MAN VS. MACHINE NOT LOOKIN GOOD
Post by: Now_Im_Not_Banned on August 19, 2002, 07:15:38 PM
Who ever says the west is dead must be retarded...
Title: Re: MAN VS. MACHINE NOT LOOKIN GOOD
Post by: Gangsta_T on August 20, 2002, 05:16:32 AM
Quote
Who ever says the west is dead must be retarded...



word dogg...
fuck em...aint knowin shit bout the west...
only dpg and aftermath
hahahah
Title: Re: MAN VS. MACHINE NOT LOOKIN GOOD
Post by: min0rity on August 20, 2002, 06:08:00 AM
whoever says west ain't dead must be a dickriding faggot
Title: Re: MAN VS. MACHINE NOT LOOKIN GOOD
Post by: Real_G on August 20, 2002, 09:57:42 AM
Quote
whoever says west ain't dead must be a dickriding faggot


So im a dickriding faggot because I listen to westcoast music and enjoy it and pick up the new albums and support it....And believe its not dead? Look if its dead then why the fuck are you posting here? This is a westcoast forum and if you can read then youd notice the threads on all the NEW westcoast albums coming out......hmmmm so if theres new westcoast cds coming out then how can it be dead?........
Title: Re: MAN VS. MACHINE NOT LOOKIN GOOD
Post by: budsmokeronly on August 20, 2002, 10:21:49 AM
Quote
whoever says west ain't dead must be a dickriding faggot


you said in a earlier post that you didn't even listen to Quik's new album but heard that it was garbage, so you just take someone else's word for it.  Shit the west is far from dead.  Just cause you don't like it, and these little groupie kids who buy nelly, ja rule, will smith, puffy, juvenile, etc. ect., and don't know artists on the west don't mean that its dead.  Hell I have bought at least 15 west coast albums that came out this year and are damn good.  Just cause people are ignorant of good music doesn't mean that it is dead.
Title: Re: MAN VS. MACHINE NOT LOOKIN GOOD
Post by: Gangsta_T on August 21, 2002, 12:05:26 AM
Quote


you said in a earlier post that you didn't even listen to Quik's new album but heard that it was garbage, so you just take someone else's word for it.  Shit the west is far from dead.  Just cause you don't like it, and these little groupie kids who buy nelly, ja rule, will smith, puffy, juvenile, etc. ect., and don't know artists on the west don't mean that its dead.  Hell I have bought at least 15 west coast albums that came out this year and are damn good.  Just cause people are ignorant of good music doesn't mean that it is dead.


word man !!!
tell em whus goin on
Title: Re: MAN VS. MACHINE NOT LOOKIN GOOD
Post by: min0rity on August 21, 2002, 06:26:03 AM
man WTF?!?! dude i think ya'll took my point in a different way....to make the long story short...what i meant was that the west currently now isn't like what it was during the "golden days" from 1988-1996..don't get so fucking defensive about this shit...i'm pretty sure ya'll from the west but i love west coast music just as much as you do and i want to hear some good music thats all...and to JAE..its about quality NOT quantity...lmao....and acgrundy dude if your gonna diss me..diss me right..i never said quik's album was garbage...i said i HEARD it was garbage but i ALSO SAID I WASN'T GONNA SPEAK ON IT....meaning i didn't hear it yet so i'll judge later...READ carefully BEFORE posting anything ...and oh yeah i would like to see you actually name 15 albums by west coast artists so far in 2002..lmao
Title: Re: MAN VS. MACHINE NOT LOOKIN GOOD
Post by: Real_G on August 21, 2002, 06:31:30 AM
Quote
man WTF?!?! dude i think ya'll took my point in a different way....to make the long story short...what i meant was that the west currently now isn't like what it was during the "golden days" from 1988-1996..don't get so fucking defensive about this shit...i'm pretty sure ya'll from the west but i love west coast music just as much as you do and i want to hear some good music thats all...and to JAE..its about quality NOT quantity...lmao....and acgrundy dude if your gonna diss me..diss me right..i never said quik's album was garbage...i said i HEARD it was garbage but i ALSO SAID I WASN'T GONNA SPEAK ON IT....meaning i didn't hear it yet so i'll judge later...READ carefully BEFORE posting anything ...and oh yeah i would like to see you actually name 15 albums by west coast artists so far in 2002..lmao



Yeah I know its bout quality not quantity and thats what im hearin from westcoast rappers quality. As for the 15 albums, I dont feel like doin it now because its early in the mornning and i cant remember all of them but your an idiot if you dont think 15 westcoast albums have come out in 2002. Remember if all you're listening to is whats popular then you cant judge a whole coast because theres more than whats popular comin out.
Title: Re: MAN VS. MACHINE NOT LOOKIN GOOD
Post by: budsmokeronly on August 21, 2002, 06:39:11 AM
of course the music ain't as good as it was back then, but what the fuck are we going to do about it.

Quote
and to dj quik but what have they been doing now i won' speak on quik cuz i haven't heard his new shit yet but i heard its garbage...thats why i didnt mention those ones that you mention cuz to me they haven't came with shit that i like, maybe for you they're dope so i'm not going to question your taste in music but to me they ain't shit NOW!!


you heard it's garbage and haven't even givin it a chance.  And I wasn't even dissing you, don't be so damn uptight.  As for the 15 albums:

C-Bo-life as a rider
C-Bo-West Coast Mafia
Daz-This is the life I lead
DJ Quik-Under the influence
Keita Rock-Lets get it crackin
Doggystyle allstars
Knocturnal
tray Deee- Presents the generals list
MC Eiht- Underground Hero
Spice 1- Spiceberg Slim
SCC- I forget the name
Foesum- Foefathers
Eazy E-the dvd and ep
king T-Thy Kingdom Come
Luniz-Silver and Black
sherm- shermsmoke
we from the lbc
E-40

I am sure there is more, but I can't remember.  Sure all these are not classics or their best albums, but they are still good and better than 90% of the crap that gets released nowadays.
Title: Re: MAN VS. MACHINE NOT LOOKIN GOOD
Post by: Gangsta_T on August 22, 2002, 04:36:49 AM
Quote



SCC- I forget the name






hahaha..dont smoke to much shit...
We have the Right to remain violent !!!

peace acgrundy !
Gangsta T