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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Don Seer on October 10, 2005, 02:10:38 PM
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ok.. i figure i'm one of the few to have both dvd's ... so i'mma lay it down real quick..
1.. there is no question. this is the exact same show.
2.. the quality on the new official death row release is WAY WAY WAY better than the japanese one from a year or two ago
3.. however the japanese one has the Suge Knight intro and danny boy performance before pac kicks off..
AND it also has the soopafly performing I Dont Hang and DPG doing What Would You Do
4.. however the new one has one_ more_ pac.. performance. him doing 2 of americaz most with snoop...
AND it has Do What I feel + Gz+Hustlaz...
THEN daz+kurupt doing "a song from their upcoming album west coast aftershock" called Me In Your World (which ended up on death row's greatest hits disk 2 track 15)
and daz disses Dre in it.. (details in the post below this one) it also has performances of "For my niggaz + bitches" and snoop doing a song from his upcoming album Doggfather.. called um.. Doggfather lol... and Gin+Juice
update: later in this post i've done a FULL set list with the differences highlighted.
also.. i believe the US version of the new Tupac one has a documentary called "G-Funk Just The Music, No Drama" instead of all the full version music videos the european version has (cali love remix/to live and die in LA/hit em up/how do you want it(concert version)/i aint mad at cha)
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more on Daz dissing dre...
in the original song... it goes..
"I caved ya chest in, bruised ya ribs, with a blow of skills
Like Tyson, knockin' your ass out like Bruno
You know I bring death towards your whole fuckin' camp (camp)
Get in your skin, kill anything that lives
Sure enough I never thought, that your ass could come rough
Call your bluff, comin' with skills to smash your stuff
You know it's hardcore, you know it's raw
You know it's hardcore, I'll break your jaw
Too many times with rhymes I combine and blow minds
With the ways I design (hey Daz) too many fuckin' times
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this was changed to...
I caved ya chest in, bruised ya ribs, with a blow of skills
Like Tyson, knockin' your ass out like Bruno
You know I bring death towards your whole fuckin' camp (camp)
Get in your skin, kill anything that lives
I never ever thought, Dr Dre could come rough
Call your bluff, comin' with skills to smash your stuff
You know it's hardcore, you know it's raw
You know it's hardcore, I'll break your jaw
Too many times with rhymes I combine and blow minds
With the ways I design (hey Daz) too many fuckin' times
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i wonder why they cut off the danny boy performance and suge intro.
good post by the way.
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wot dvd would u say is the better 1?
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it depends on your definition of better.
quality + presentation wise the death row one is better hands down.
but both have performances the other doesnt.
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does the dogg pound get long on stage or is it mostly 2pac?
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they get a long time on stage... they've used pac's name to push this.. but in fact on the row version..
pac does 10 songs plus on the euro version there are 5 music videos
snoop+dpg combined.. do 15 songs
its harder to count my jap one since theres no tracklist but pac's set is the same.. and snoop's ends part way through... _but_ daz+kurupt do 1 more song, and soopa does 1 and danny boy does 1 or 2..
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great imma def go and get this......1 problem money :-\
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thats the best thing.. it was 8.99!!!! the jap one probably cost me round 30 quid.. i have no idea :D
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man its all about the live performance with snoop and pac doing 2 of amerikaz most wanted, that shit was crazy.
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^ and i dont think thats on the jap version as it was the finale
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its harder to count my jap one since theres no tracklist but pac's set is the same.. and snoop's ends part way through... _but_ daz+kurupt do 1 more song, and soopa does 1 and danny boy does 1 or 2..
+ don't forget Dolomite's lil preformance, that part was hilarious.
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lol so how many versions are available....does the american version have the music videos?? and is it differnet from the euro version?
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i bought mine in america. and mine doesnt have that g funk documentary. i dont think that documentary is on any of the DVDS. mine has all the music videos.
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^ thats odd as the death row site definitely says its on there
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i believe the US version of the new Tupac one has a documentary called "G-Funk Just The Music, No Drama" instead of all the full version music videos the european version has (cali love remix/to live and die in LA/hit em up/how do you want it(concert version)/i aint mad at cha)
i ordered the usa version, should be here any day now.
ill let you know if its got the doc on.
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my friend jus bought the house of blues one so i mite get the jap one!
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here is a link i used for it.. but it appears to be sold out :(
http://www.hmv.co.jp/product/detail.asp?sku=1937092
here's the set list from it i've put the performances that aren't on the new death row release in italics + spaced out differences
and below listed the performances only on the new death row DVD. When combined this shows the entire set list for that night.
01. Suge Knight Intro
02. Danny Boy - Rock'N Roll
03. Danny Boy - Slip 'N Slide(Remix)
04. 2Pac - Ambitionz Az A Ridah
05. 2Pac - So Many Tears
06. 2Pac - Troublesome '96
07. 2Pac - Hit 'Em Up
08. 2Pac - Tattoo Tears
09. 2Pac - All About U
10. 2Pac - Never Call U Bitch Again
11. 2Pac - Jodeci Interlude (called Freek'n You on the new death row dvd)
12. 2Pac - How Do U Want It
13. Interlude - Chris Tucker, Eddie Griffin and Dolomite
14. Soopafly & Tha Dogg Pound - I Don't Hang
15. Soopafly & Tha Dogg Pound - What Would You Do?
16. Snoop Dogg - Murder Was The Case
17. Snoop Dogg - Tha Shiz Hit
18. Snoop Dogg - If We All
19. Snoop Dogg - Some Bomb Azz Pussy
20. Snoop Dogg - Ain't No Fun featuring Nate Dogg
21. Snoop Dogg - New York, New York
22. Snoop Dogg - Big Pimpin 2
Where the japanese release stops, the new death row release continues with more of snoop/dpg to the end of the show finale
Do What I feel
Gz + Hustlaz.
Me In Your World
For my niggaz + bitches
Doggfather
Gin+Juice
2pac + Snoop + Outlawz + DPG - 2 of Americaz Most Wanted
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cheers imma keep on the lookout for it mite find it on ebay if im lucky
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i've just dubcnn'd this. (192 views before dubcnn'ing..)
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I hate when record labels go and release an album in multiple versions, shit makes no sense >:(
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I hate when record labels go and release an album in multiple versions, shit makes no sense >:(
uh? this shit was bootlegged a couple years ago and a very very poor quality version was put out in japan.
death row have now released an officially put together a dvd of the show with much much better quality picture and audio...
its just that both are missing parts...
The Row one has concentrated on tupac's performances and the ones around snoop by dropping suge introducing the show, danny boy's songs and soopafly's songs and some comedy interludes.
The Japanese one cut off part way through snoops set but was "complete" in that it was 100% uneditted from the start to where it cuts off.
In places virtually NOTHING is visible on the japanese version when people are performing outside the "house of blues" sign at the back of the stage.. on the Death Row release this is all clear.
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They should've just named it Death Row Live At The House Of Blues and drop tha entire show fuck leaving parts of it out >:(
i'm still buyinh it ;D
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well it does say "Death Row" on the cover in tiny letters over Tupac's name.. but not on the spine. odd huh?
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I'll try to pick this up tomorrow at the local shop. Thanks for the info Seer.
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LOL i just got to watching this properly.. theres some footage of Suge on an upper level stood up in a big red suit bouncing away to "Whats my name" :D
noticed a lot more Dre disses too..
example... kurupt on "for all my niggaz and bitches"
instead of "never thought you'd see me bustin with dr dre" is changed to "never thought you'd see me bustin withOUT dr dre"
snoop seems to be staying outta it for the most part..
also...
that "nuttin but a gangsta" chanting from pac/snoop on Doggfather is straight from this show....right before they do 2 of americaz most
suge is on stage loads at the end... grabbing snoop n pac...
u can actually see them pose for this picture onstage really well
(http://www.dab.hi-ho.ne.jp/sugashira/jpeg/qz/sugepacsnoop.jpg)
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thanx for the info..
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thanks for the info. you should rip the suge/db performances.
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damn suge looks coked out
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I could be wrong but: Big Axle F from our forum was at this show, *imagne watchin this show live :o* lucky mofo
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yeah i think he may have been.. u know u posted the same in the thread that was made when the jap dvd first surfaced..
btw.. anyone spoken to axle lately? he's not signed into dubcc for nearly 2 months.. or been in IRC.. but he's been on my private ftp..
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yeah i think he may have been.. u know u posted the same in the thread that was made when the jap dvd first surfaced..
btw.. anyone spoken to axle lately? he's not signed into dubcc for nearly 2 months.. or been in IRC.. but he's been on my private ftp..
Its been a while yea, one busy dad :)
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i've just dubcnn'd this. (192 views before dubcnn'ing..)
48 hours later... on 1130 hits :)
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So the New Pac DVD doesn't have DPG performin "What Would U Do?" ?
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correct
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correct
Damn, i wish it would've been on the new DVD too...
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This is a great thread.
Can we download the Jap version?.
Was it just them rapping different words on stage live to the songs dissin etc, not actual SUGE changing them?.
Cheers.
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Can we download the Jap version?.
no.
Was it just them rapping different words on stage live to the songs dissin etc, not actual SUGE changing them?.
yes. its a liveeeeeee show.. very hard to switch up.. it was in 96.. dre was off starting aftermath
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yeah kool, i new that it was live, just thought Suge was pullin sum more shit. lol.
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Just copped the audio from mIRC.
I'm gonna cop this DVD ASAP.
Sounds like lots of energy from Pac.
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here is a link i used for it.. but it appears to be sold out :(
http://www.hmv.co.jp/product/detail.asp?sku=1937092
here's the set list from it i've put the performances that aren't on the new death row release in italics + spaced out differences
and below listed the performances only on the new death row DVD. When combined this shows the entire set list for that night.
01. Suge Knight Intro
02. Danny Boy - Rock'N Roll
03. Danny Boy - Slip 'N Slide(Remix)
04. 2Pac - Ambitionz Az A Ridah
05. 2Pac - So Many Tears
06. 2Pac - Troublesome '96
07. 2Pac - Hit 'Em Up
08. 2Pac - Tattoo Tears
09. 2Pac - All About U
10. 2Pac - Never Call U Bitch Again
11. 2Pac - Jodeci Interlude (called Freek'n You on the new death row dvd)
12. 2Pac - How Do U Want It
13. Interlude - Chris Tucker, Eddie Griffin and Dolomite
14. Soopafly & Tha Dogg Pound - I Don't Hang
15. Soopafly & Tha Dogg Pound - What Would You Do?
16. Snoop Dogg - Murder Was The Case
17. Snoop Dogg - Tha Shiz Hit
18. Snoop Dogg - If We All
19. Snoop Dogg - Some Bomb Azz Pussy
20. Snoop Dogg - Ain't No Fun featuring Nate Dogg
21. Snoop Dogg - New York, New York
22. Snoop Dogg - Big Pimpin 2
Where the japanese release stops, the new death row release continues with more of snoop/dpg to the end of the show finale
Do What I feel
Gz + Hustlaz.
Me In Your World
For my niggaz + bitches
Doggfather
Gin+Juice
2pac + Snoop + Outlawz + DPG - 2 of Americaz Most Wanted
By the way, the audio I copped from 2_Pac_-_Live_At_The_House_Of_Blues_(2005)_-_FST has What Would U Do on it. So it aint on the DVD? That sux.
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Just actually noticed you see Pac next to Suge dancing during Whats My Name...
Also interesting to notice that 'Me In Your World' sounds fucken amazing live... the crowd (on the stage as well lol) gets right into it... that first Daz verse is fire...