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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: infinite59 on September 11, 2001, 04:11:30 PM
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Just to provide some balance to the subject. First of all, it's terrible what happened, and in no way do I support violence of any kind. In saying that, I will say that America is being hypocritical in saying that it will seek justice, revenge, on whoever must have done this. Because I promise you that is exactly what the terrorist said before commiting this crime, that he wanted to seek justice for whatever America had been doing to opress his people. It's all just one big cycle, somebody needs to step up and say, "the violence stops here."
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Just to provide some balance to the subject. First of all, it's terrible what happened, and in no way do I support violence of any kind. In saying that, I will say that America is being hypocritical in saying that it will seek justice, revenge, on whoever must have done this. Because I promise you that is exactly what the terrorist said before commiting this crime, that he wanted to seek justice for whatever America had been doing to opress his people. It's all just one big cycle, somebody needs to step up and say, "the violence stops here."
you coudlnt be more wrong, they r radical muslims tha believe that christianity is satanic an america is santanic, we've have done nothin to these people, they are sick pieces of shit wit extremist beliefs.
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We HAVE to seek justice for this incident. If we dont, it will make us look weak, and it will make those guilty of this horrid crime that they can do it AGAIN. We need to retaliate, and we need to do so DECISIVELY [even if it means wiping out their ENTIRE country]. This is a very serious situation. I dont like violence either, but we must act upon this in the only way we can: to retaliate. These mothafuckaz need to learn that you cant fuck with the U.S. like that, and if you do, you're gonna get fucked up, and thats all there is to it.
This is worse than Pearl Harbor. Over 50,000 are dead. Im sorry, but America WILL seek justice, and they will do so to the FULLEST extent possible, I would assume. Palesine and Israel have been fighting for years, and we have stayed out of it, but Palestine just fucked up by bringing us into it. They awoke a sleeping giant.
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They only said about 10,000-12,000 will most likely end up dead, I think there's only about 1000 confirmed deaths so far
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it's like Swartzkov said on the news, we (the united states) might've killed many people but most of them were soldiers and had warning (in the gulf war) but these bastards out of no where killed more people with no warning
is the US 100% innocent no!
but has ANYTHING the us done justify this at all? no!
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Tom187um- we have done plenty to these people. They are not radical muslims or extremists, they have been oppressed by America for years, America has consistently lent their help to Isreal while oppresing Palestine. Palestinian families live on $30 a week. America has armed Isreal with guns, while Palestinians can only fight back with rocks. It's to the point where it's worth killing themselves to fight back against their oppressors.
Hellrazor- What we HAVE to do is stop consuming all the Earths resources while leaving third world countries with nothing. The average American consumes 3 times that of the rest of the world. We do this by overpowering other countries, meanwhile we should be sharing with other countries. We are not Americans, and they are not Palestinians, we are all humans.
BigJakeDoggyDogg- Yes. Just because you live here and are blind to what is going on in the rest of the world, or maybe it helps you sleep better at night to think that America is perfect, and these people are just "radical muslims" it is far from the truth. They are people who have emotions just like you have emotions. Be thankful that you have not yet been pushed to the point that you would rather kill yourself than live a life of oppresion.
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see what u americans see is what we do, assuming its for no reason, what u fail to see is what happened to make the muslims act the way they do
when people gotta kill themselves to make a point, when people would rather die than live a life of oppression, theres a problem.
yes, there are people who say fuck those christians, it is a demonic religion, (this is my knock out blow, yall, listen up ;D), there are people like that, but they dont come to that conclusion, reading the bible, or listening to a preacher, they see what the christain people of the US has done to them,
u have to under stand in essence the Israel- US, alliance,
what muslims see is jews and christains uniting and massacring muslims, do u know how powerful the jewish lobby is in america, did u know the american forign policy is so anti muslim, its not even funny.
so the muslims, "radical muslims", say what they say about christianity not because of the religion itself, (did u know that in our holy book, the quran, christians are described as the People of the Book, people to be shown upmost respect to)
we call the christian religion satanic, because we believe devils practice it, the muslims see christains as devils, who else would do what yall have done, and have no conscience about it.???
one last thing, please reflect on this,
what have i consistently seen on this board? fuck the muslims, they wanna kill us all,
a palestinian right now is saying the same thing about you people,
it took one incident and look what yall are saying about us, im not taking it too personal, cuz i doubt any of u have studied our religion, u're saying what youre saying based on what youve seen, sound familiar, ask any muslim, this is the exact situation,
now this was just one incident, imagine decades of this, wouldnt some of u go crazy, and do suicide bombings and shit,
what?
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Techniec, assulamulakum brother. It's good to see another Muslims comments because far too many Americans have tunnel vision. I converted, (reverted) to Islam at the beggining of this year. And almost every Muslim at my mosque is familiar with the Bible, do you think Christians can say the same about their familiarity with The Holy Qu'ran. Most of you have no idea about Islam, you probably just asked your parents and accepted their ignorance. it's a very selfish way of thinking to act as if American problems are somewhat more relevant than those of other nations and religions.
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OK, WHAT DO YOU THINK WHEN YOU SEE THE PICS OF ALL THOSE PALESTINIAN KIDS SHOUTING AND CHEERING ABOUT WHATS HAPPENED.
WANKERS FIRING SHOTS IN TO THE AIR TO CELEBRATE THE FACT THAT THOUSANDS OF AMERICANS, BRITS AND LOADSA OTHER INNOCENT PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE WORD HAVE JUST BEEN KILLED FOR NO REASON !!
I THINK ITS FUCKIN SICK
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HipHopHoe, what do you think when you see footage of Americans parading, partying, and dancing in the streets after we dropped the Atom Bomb on Japan in World War 2? You probably think "good, we killed those fucking gooks! God bless America!"
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TWO WRONGS DONT MAKE A RIGHT SURELY !!
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you know what fuck that hating on America Shit! America ain't a perfect nation , but who is?? and fuck y'all for trying to justify this shit
this is just like a school shooting where the nerds fucking shoot up the school becuase of what a couple fools did to them....unjustifuckingfyable
and if you can honestly stand there as muslums and condone war FUCK Y'ALL! the local news has interviewed local mosque leaders and muslum followers and they say they are SICKENED about what HAPPENED and that it is UNJUSTIFYABLE what these 'so called muslums" have done
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and if you can honestly stand there as muslums and condone war FUCK Y'ALL!
WELL SAID !!
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1. Why Don't We Get Down To THe Bottom Of This, And Admit That This Fight Is About The Dome Of The Rock.
2. What Do You Think Jesus, OR Muhammad Would Have To Say About This? He'd Say It Was Sick.
3. What Do You EXPECT, This Is A Religious War. Naturally, We Are Going To Side With Our Religion In It.
4. This Was The Wrong Way To Handle This, America Is NOT The country To Lash Out Against, Binladin Shall Die, And It's NEEDED, He's A Terror To Innocents.
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BUT AS I SED IN ANOTHA POST
"EVEN IF THEY KILL ME, THERE WIL ALWAYS BE SOMEONE TO TAKE MY PLACE" - BINLADEN PALESTINIAN NEWS - YESTERDAY
peace
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America Won't Take This Lightly, And Likely When They're Done, There Won't BE Anyone To Take His Place. The Entire Government Of Afganistan Will Likely Fall.
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Well this will shock some of you into checking into shit.. but 3 things.
1) Osama Bin Laden does not hold a position with the afghan govt.. so they shouldnt be affected.. however he did help them win against russia. a while back... this is most likely why they have been protecting him.
2) At one point Bin Ladens activities were actually funded by the CIA.
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Bush Has Stated Several Times That Those Harboring Whoever Did It Are Just As Guilty, ANd That's True. If Afganistan Is Hiding Him (They Have Already Defended Him Since), They Will Be Targets.
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3) Bin Laden isnt a Muslim, he is a seikh.
Maybe its just me but aint those the fools that did that big plane crash thing a few years back.
Anyway someone had to pay for these deaths, innocent civilains were killed, i support america (im british) all the way...what who ever did this was a tragic disaster and i like millions others want to see these people pay.
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WELL I NEVA SED HE HELD A POSITION....BUT...
HE IS A GUEST OF THE TALIBHAM REGIME IN AFGHAN - AS THEY HABOURED HIM AFTA HE WAS EXTRADITED FROM HIS OWN COUNTRY. MONEY IS A MAJOR FACTOR
BUT AFTA LOOKIN INTO SHIT AGAIN, I RECKON IF THE U.S CAN PROVIDE PROOF THAT BINLADEN WAS BEHIND IT THEN AFGHAN WILL HAND HIM OVER -
BCOS, AFGHAN IS MORE SCARED OF THE U.S AND ITS ALLYS THAN BINLADENS 'GROUPS'
AN ATTACK BY THE ALLIES WOULD RESULT IN THE COLLAPSE OF THE TALIBHAM REGIME
peace
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Bush Has Stated Several Times That Those Harboring Whoever Did It Are Just As Guilty, ANd That's True. If Afganistan Is Hiding Him (They Have Already Defended Him Since), They Will Be Targets.
well they've already stated that if there is proof they will hand bin laden over.
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That Is Good, I Hadn't Heard That Yet... I Hope We Don't Have To Bomb.
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Islam teaches peacefulness, and that it is more valued to avoid violence at all costs. However, rather than making friends with oppresion, it will not be counted against you by God, if you fight back against your oppressors, if it is in the name of God. (Allah)
Christianity preaches turning the other cheek. Americans forced Christianity on Native Americans and African Americans, and it has been a successful religion in taking over races of people. If Islam had been taught to slaves coming over from Africa, slavery would have never worked, the slaves would have revolted against their oppresors, even if it meant them losing their lives.
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America has pumped millions into Israel in arms, Israel used American funded arms to slaughter over 117,000 people in Lebanon.
The CIA coached Bin Laden, gave him weapons to try and get Russia.
There is no way of justifying it - but I can understand why they would have done it - if someone murdered your family - you would want revenge
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infinite i have a question for you, u said tha people that commited ths crime are not extremist, how aren't they, they believe that American's, christians, an any country that has a or supports a capolitist goverment are satanic an deserve to die. Bid Laden said he enjoyed what he saw. These people killed themselves just to hurt america, there is a difference between defending your country in war an being pussy's an doin an act like this
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Frankly, I'm Sick Of The U.S. Israel/Palestine Comparisons.
The U.S. Helped Israel Protect It's Country, And Jerusalem.
If The U.S. Were Bullies, They Would Take Over The World. They Don't, Because They Believe That Countries Should Be Safe Against Invasion. That's Why They Help Israel Against The Palestines.
Palestinians Are Like The Little Mean Kid At School. You Can't Let Him Have All The Other Freedoms The Other Kids Have, Because He'll Abuse His Priviledges.
The Palestines Do The Same! You Leave Them Alone, And What do They Do? Invade Israel!
I'm Sick of All The People Taking Up For The People That Did This. You All Say "Oh, It's Horrible, But Understandable".. No, it Isn't Understandable.
Tell Me The Purpose. Do They ACTUALLY Think That The U.S. Will Relax Pressure? Hell No, It'll Be 10 Times Worse, Now. Now, Palestinians Are Being Invaded By Israel, From What I Hear. The American's Will Not Help People Dancing Over Our Innocents Being Killed.
This Was An ATTACK On Our Private Citizens, Not Our Military. We Can't Ignore It, And They Have Ruined It For Everybody. There Will Be MASSIVE Repurcussions For This, Because We Can't Control What Our Government Decides To Do! Afganistan As A Country Is On The Brink Of Destruction, Also. The Anger In America Is At An All Time High, I Have NEVER Seen Everyone So Pissed.
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interesting point:
notice the footage of palestinians celebrating is always the same. there are about five clips maximum. why are these repeatedly shown but never added to. okay western reporters are clearing the fuck out of there, but c'mon this smells like propaganda.
also some people are making palestinians out out be angels or some shit. they have weapons too. they have shown time and again they are perfectly capable of ruthless attacks.
this whole area is a spark plug to talk about tho. im trying to stay impartial and not let the knee-jerk xenophobia take over.
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about those clips...they are saying negative things about today specifically....this was even confirmed by one of my friends Attas who's from Yemen...he said they were saying "God is goood and killed the snake" "America will got what they had coming"
and plus ABC news has shown more clips of another guy being interviewed by forein reporters (i think german or british) were the guy says in english "wow that great i hope it happens again" and he laughs....sick sick shit, i know if America would've done this to their country there would be SWOOOOORMS of protest from millions of Citizens
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Frankly, I'm Sick Of The U.S. Israel/Palestine Comparisons.
The U.S. Helped Israel Protect It's Country, And Jerusalem.
If The U.S. Were Bullies, They Would Take Over The World. They Don't, Because They Believe That Countries Should Be Safe Against Invasion. That's Why They Help Israel Against The Palestines.
Palestinians Are Like The Little Mean Kid At School. You Can't Let Him Have All The Other Freedoms The Other Kids Have, Because He'll Abuse His Priviledges.
The Palestines Do The Same! You Leave Them Alone, And What do They Do? Invade Israel!
I'm Sick of All The People Taking Up For The People That Did This. You All Say "Oh, It's Horrible, But Understandable".. No, it Isn't Understandable.
Tell Me The Purpose. Do They ACTUALLY Think That The U.S. Will Relax Pressure? Hell No, It'll Be 10 Times Worse, Now. Now, Palestinians Are Being Invaded By Israel, From What I Hear. The American's Will Not Help People Dancing Over Our Innocents Being Killed.
This Was An ATTACK On Our Private Citizens, Not Our Military. We Can't Ignore It, And They Have Ruined It For Everybody. There Will Be MASSIVE Repurcussions For This, Because We Can't Control What Our Government Decides To Do! Afganistan As A Country Is On The Brink Of Destruction, Also. The Anger In America Is At An All Time High, I Have NEVER Seen Everyone So Pissed.
THANK YOU TRAUMA!
you've said everything i've been thinking about today
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LOL If I Knew What It Was, Mine's Probably Already Set In.
From The Outside, Looking In, I've Always Thought The War Over There Was Pretty Stupid. They Are ESSENTIALLY fighting Over A Rock. Im' Serious, A Rock. It's About 20 Feet Wide, And They're Fighting Over It. Muslims Owned It, And In The 11th Century, It Was Captured By Israel (When Jerusalem Was) And Turned Into A Jewish/Christian Church. That's What The Palestinians Are Pissed About, Basically... Which is UNDERSTANDABLE. I'd Be Pissed Too.
Now, The U.S. Has Decided (NOT Alone, But With The United Nations) That Israel needs Protection, To Save It's Land (Israel) So They Provide Guns To Israel, And Generally Help Them Out, And Keep Jerusalem Safe.
Of Course The Palestinians Can't Stand This. So, Now They Attack Us On Our Home. That Was SO Stupid, Because It Will Just Complicate The Already Complicated Situation.
I'm Not Saying The U.S. Is right, But The Palestinians Are HELLA Wrong. (The Ones That agree, For Instance, NOt ALL palestinians Agree, I Would Assume).
I've Been Told By SEVERAL Muslims Today That We "Deserved It", Or Such. Fuck That. And I've Heard SO Many Hatefull comments. BinLadin Said He Was Happy To See It. Others In Afganistan Have Said It's In Retaliation To Our Policies, Etc. I've Heard Us Called "The American Cowboy"... When NOBODY'S Saying Anything About Them. THATS Why This Is Getting WAY Out Of Hand.
The U.S. For YEARS Now (Most Noteably Clinton) Has Tried To Get The Palestines And Israelis To Agree To Peace. Each Time, They Can't Do It. Now, We're Attacked, The Peace Bargainers!
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Islam teaches peacefulness, and that it is more valued to avoid violence at all costs. However, rather than making friends with oppresion, it will not be counted against you by God, if you fight back against your oppressors, if it is in the name of God. (Allah)
Christianity preaches turning the other cheek. Americans forced Christianity on Native Americans and African Americans, and it has been a successful religion in taking over races of people. If Islam had been taught to slaves coming over from Africa, slavery would have never worked, the slaves would have revolted against their oppresors, even if it meant them losing their lives.
oh please infinate! the bible clearly states in the end times there will be flocks of wolves in sheep's clothing don't lable a FEW wolves to the MAJORITY of the way christians really are
don't take cheap shots like that becuase you have just as many fakes phonies , wolves, in your religion as christianity and the things that religion has done over the years , i can say the same negative stuff about your religion too but i know that the majority of the muslum religion is the total opposite from those wolves so shut your mouth before you try to say something like this again
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Firstly, this attack is inhumane and watching CNN, and seeing those two, once proud buildings, filled with innocent people (including a few hundred Brits) burning slowly to death made me feel physically sick and brought a tear to my eye as i prayed to the lord in heaven. :'(
Having said that i can see why the Palestinians (IF it was them) did this. They too have had many peeps slaughtered, by Israeli controlled American arms, Americans will never see this fully but thats just how your government like it. This doesnt make these attacks right in any way, but understand there are 2 sides to this story.
However, not only have America taken this as an act of war against them, so have we, the British taken this as an act of war against us, and we intend to fight alongside our American brothers and bring this evil to justice, i assure you...
Condolences to those killed, injured or affected by this awful tradegy, your all in my prayers... :'(
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ahh too much bullshit in this thread and in the world,and dont blame the whole muslim religion, that isnt right. dont speak on it if ya dont know about it.
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I just recently spent some time speaking with some Muslim scholars at the mosque and this is what I gained from it. I was wrong in speaking before gathering more information on the subject.
-First off, the terrorist acts may have been done by Muslims, but those acts do not reflect Islam or the teachings of the Qu'ran. Islam does not support the killing of innocent civilians. The prophet Muhammad was always clear that in battle no innocent women, children, or elderly people should be killed.
-Timothy McVay may be a Christian, but what he did does not make all Christians responsible, and he did not act as a Christian.
-The US has bombed Muslim countries, killed thousands, and many Palestinians have had their families and homes taken away by America/Isrealites. This is simply a matter of where you are from. If you are from Palestine, you think America is bad, if you are from America you think America is good. I stand nuetral, I will not take sides, and if I am drafted to go to war, I will respect my duties as an American citizen, but I will explain that I am a Muslim and that I need to be sent to where I won't be forced to kill, and to a non-muslim country. I found out that America has to respect that because the constitution gives us freedom of religion.
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HELLRAZOR U R A DEAD SET FUCKEN MORON
what would wipen out their whole country achieve?
u will kill millions caus of about 100??
showz how stupid sum people r
n then if america goes bombing them
afganistan has established itself in chemical warfare
they r advanced in germ warfare
and its ppl like u who should shut yo fucken mouth with these outburstz
i know what happened was devastating
BUT their is innocence in that country
whoeva is behind all dat ish should be strung out to fucken die slow
but shut yo hoe ass mouth up unless u gonna think radically
~1~
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i think you all need to listen to pts made by infinite and techniec with more of an open mind...
fighting a war and killing them isnt gonna solve that much its only gonna lose more lives.... what was done was wrong but like hiphop hoe said two wrongs dont make a right... going to war and killing them isnt gonna make anything right... you think people just want to go bombing the US for no reason??? obviously they have shit they are pissed about
going to war with them is only gonna make them more pissed.... and they arent gonna fight a str8 up war.... even if you kill there whole country there is still gonna be like 15 crazy nuts left that are gonna be like "our whole country died for allah and went to heaven now we must do the same and revenge our country by nuking the capitol of the US"
when you fight terrorists you dont meet up at a battlefield and get shit done... they hide out and make plans for sneaky strikes that are gonna fuck us to hell.. and they do so beacuse thats all they can do... if we had to go US against a nation 1000 times larger than us we arent gonna go head to head and give them a definite win... only thing they can do against us is bomb....
going to war is only gonna piss them off more.... they see things over there a lot different than we see things over here.... neither side is 100 percent right but whats going to war gonna solve? its obviously gonna happen but whatever
it would help if people werent running around like fuck the towel heads they all must die though
and btw im catholic and american
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All The Peeps On Here Sympathizing With The Palestinians, Saying That They Know Where They're Coming From Are Mistaken.
If You'll Look INto The Palestinians, You'll See That They Do NOT Think Rationally! They're Trying To Retake Control Of A Fucking ROCK. Come On. Think About that. All This Over A ROCK!
A Year Ago, The U.S. Tried To Bargain A Peace Treaty Between The 2, And You Know What? The Palestinians Rejected It, And Returned To Violence Against The Israelis, Who Were Reaching Out A Peace Leaf! And Now, They're The Victims? Bullshit. Now, They Strike Out At Us, The Peace Bargainers! Granted, It Was Not All Palestinians, But A Few Acting On Their Behalf (without their approval), And Palestinians Rejoice In Our Destruction On T.V.! Yall HATE FUCKING PEACE.
Fuck All Yall That Are Rationalizing This Attack.
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All your arabic, muslim folks keep saying
"We Deserved it because... well we are anti-muslim"
Give us facts people, don't just go around and express opinions. As Bush said...
"Don't harm communities because of individuals"
In fact government here has already said to stop the hating on arabic and muslim communities... its wrong, but I learned a lot when I was speaking to one of the kids in my design class... he is of middle eastern decent and moved to america for the freedom, yes the freedom... in the middle east, you get forced to follow rules, forced to do what the government does, women have no rights at all... in fact american women who marry middle eastern men, then take "family vacations" to the middle east and never return to america and are forced to live by the laws of the middle eastern countries. Women get their heads chopped off if they have affairs, murdered for now wearing vails, arguing with your husband could mean jail time... yet America doesn't show enough respect to them... so they take down three american buildings to prove their point...
WHAT POINT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Like I said, no one has given any facts, just kept saying
"america deserved this cause they ... they... yea you dont know what they... do"
Anyway this homie in my design class said that in the middle east, they have no respect for life, but give all respect to god and religion runs their life. Also religion is corrupted in the middle east as he said. Religous leaders make the people think that some "evil" acts will be your first class ticket into heaven. It's been brought up many times... these people who do "suicide missions" are corrupted by sick religious acts. These guys truly believed that by doing this they would go to heaven... even though they died and committed horrible acts.
There is no reason to hate the USA, nothing SO IMPORTANT should arouse these acts.
People hate this country because of our PROSPERITY, WEALTH, FREEDOM, WAY OF LIFE, OUR DEMOCRACY, OUR EASE OF LIFE... why do we have an ease of life, because we give freedom to all... life is easy here because we run it the right way... countries who don't have what we have... hate us for it and will kill... thats the reason...
-Big BpG
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The U.S. Feels Israel Is Being Attacked (Or Was) So They Gave Israel Guns, Which The Israelis Then Used To Invade The Palestinians, Not Just for Self Defense. The Israelis Even Went So Far To Just Kill Mass Muslims, And Killed Many Innocent People, All With American Weapons. America Didn't Penalize, Or Punish Israel For Any Of This, This Is Why The Palestinians Are Mad.
That's Where The Anger At The U.S. Comes From, But These Assholes Took It Too Far, Their Fight Is With Israel, Not With Us. Also, From A Practical Point Of View, It Would Be Much Easier For Them To Negotiate Through Violence With Israel, Then Through Violence Through America, Because America Does Not Cater To Terrorism! Now, They've Put Their Entire Religion In Danger, Unfortunately.
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ok....as many of you people know already im from
israel...and I can analize tha whole shit from inside....
ill try to xplain what palastinian muslim fanatic organizasions r doin.....
they r takin lil kidz....and from school dayz they teach them that itz good to die in a holly death (SHAHIDS) AS A PROMISS FROM THEIR SENDERS .........WHEN THA XPLODIN SHAHID GETZ TO HEAVEN HE GETZ 70 SOMTHIN, PREVIOUSLY UNTOUCHED, YOUNG GIRLS (IM SERIOUS...THEY EVEN PUT SOME PROTECTION SHEILD ON THEIR SEX ORGANZ WHEN THEY GOIN" TO MAKE
AN XPLOSION..CRAZY ASSES).........AND WHAT IS LEFT FOR THA POOR PALASTINIAN KIDS TO DO BUT TO BELIEVE (WHEN INSTED OF TAKIN CARE OF ITZ SITISENTZ THA AUTONOMY RIPZ ITZ PPZ OF) ...AS TO BELIEVE...BECAUZE MANY OF THEM LIVE IN POORNESS...
AND A HARD ONE.......AND WHY ??? BECAUZE...ARAFAT (FUCK DIS BITCH..!!!) KEEPS ALL THA MONEY DAT THA STATEZ AND ISRAEL DONATED TO THA AUTONOMY ON HIZ PERSONAL BANK ACOUNT.....THIS IS NOT A RELIGOUS WAR...AS IT MIGHT LOOK FROM OUTSIDE....ITS A POLITICAL MONIPULATIN BULLSHIT...DAT IS ORGANIZED BY THA BRAINWSAHIN LEADERS OF
ORGANIZATIONS....
ITS VERY VERY SAD...DAT THIS KIND OF SHIT GOT TO THA STATES TOO... :-[ WE IN ISRAEL KNOW...HOW IT IS TO GET ON A BUS....AND NOT KNOW IF WELL COME HOME DEAD OR ALIVE.....
THA ONE WHO MENTIONED PALESTINIAN VICTOMS....
ILL TELL YOU HOW THA SO CALLED VICTZ BECOME VICTZ....WHEN PALESTINIANZ R HAVIN THA FUNERALS OF THA HEADZ OF THA TERORISTIC ORGZ
DAT WAZ ASSASED BY OUR SECRET SERIVISES.....
AND THEY START GETTIN HEATED.....AND THROWIN STONES....EVEN MIGHT SHOOT THA SOLDIERS DAT R
THERE TO PREVENT THA WHOLE SHIT TO A BIG MESS.....THEY HAVE TO PROTECT THEMSELVES....
AND WHAT DO THA DEMONSTRANTS DO ...THEY PUT THA YOUNGSTAZ ON THA FIRST LINES....WHILE THEY R THROWIN STONES...THA FOLOWIN IZ A METTER OF SECZ ...I GAVE THIS FUNERALS AS AN EXAMPLE BUT SOMETIMES THA DEMONSTARATIONS MAY START WITHOUT ANY FUNERAL.....
AND TO END...ISREAL HAS NO INTEREST IN HAVIN A WAR.......THEY R THA ONES WHO R AKSIN FOR IT...
IN FACT OUR LEFTWINGAZ R THA ONCE THAT PROVIDED ALL THA WEAPONS TO THA PALASTINIAN POLICE...DAT IZ NOW BEING USED AGAINST US.
P.S....ITS SAD....BUT THA HORRIBLE SHIT DAT HAPPEND IN THA STATEZ MAY BE THA ONLY THING THAT WILL PUSH THA STATES TO REALISE...THAT TERORISM IS NOT SOMETHIN DAT YOU CANT SIT WIT YOUR HEANDS CROSSED WHILE IT HAPPENS....
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The Thing That Strikes Me Is, Last Year, We Tried To Make Peace. Israel Was In Agreement, Then Arrafat Quit Talking, Rejected The Agreement, And Bombed Israel. So.... You Tell Me Who's The Dick.
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I Agree with BIGjakeDoggyDAWG
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America is not completely innocent in all this
:o DUH :o
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i gotta say these terroistsand bin laden are biggest DICKHEADDS and Biggest ASSHOLES in the world!!!!
and that palestinian leader is also a DICK, why couldnt he just aggree and have peace?
these people are making things worse for their people and other muslims all round the world
they are giving bad names to muslims and arabs
and to set somethin else straight. not all arabs feel the same way about things they are human too. i know some white americans that are saying harsh things
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Man these muthafuckas are givin a reeeal bad name 2 middle easterns...........
And I hate these ignorant "white power" muthafuckas 2...........Today they poured blood infront of a mosque here in frisco, fuckin bastards......How tha fuck are they seein all middle easterns involved? I dunno wat goes through their minds........Maybe we should start fuckin wit Germans cause of wat hitler use 2 do.........
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Man these muthafuckas are givin a reeeal bad name 2 middle easterns...........
And I hate these ignorant "white power" muthafuckas 2...........Today they poured blood infront of a mosque here in frisco, fuckin bastards......How tha fuck are they seein all middle easterns involved? I dunno wat goes through their minds........Maybe we should start fuckin wit Germans cause of wat hitler use 2 do.........
For real, I'm afraid for my dad now cause he gets confused as an Arab sometimes since most americans can't tell a African from a Philipino.
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Man these muthafuckas are givin a reeeal bad name 2 middle easterns...........
And I hate these ignorant "white power" muthafuckas 2...........Today they poured blood infront of a mosque here in frisco, fuckin bastards......How tha fuck are they seein all middle easterns involved? I dunno wat goes through their minds........Maybe we should start fuckin wit Germans cause of wat hitler use 2 do.........
Yeah !!! thats what ive been tryin to say. America should be one
now tha7th Loc Trauma all get what im sayin and they are all mature and come with the right info. i wish there were more people like them. sikotic is on point too.
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so basically the only thing the US has done is not penalize isreal for invading palestein....
FUCK ANYONE WHO THINKS THAT REASON ENOUGH TO RETALIATE ON THE US FOR THIS SHIT!
FUCK THIS SHIT AMERICA OFFICIALLY DOESN'T NOT DESERVE NONE OF THIS TO HAPPEN TO US!!!
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im tryin to get to a whole different point and your point is way off of what i we in the last few posts were saying.
so im wondering is this outta nowhere or is it from misunderstanding what we said, cause i am a full suporter of the U.S. and we definitley did not deserve this, but did ya see what i was saying?
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Israel are the good guys...
In Palastine, they are teaching kids that it's good to kill yourself and commit suicide bombings...
The only people the Israeli's kill are Palastinien Soldiers, not the innocent people...On the other hand, Palastineins bomb Israel about every week and kill a bunch of innocent people, and not the soldiers...
I've heard of Palastiniens kidnapping little 2 year old children and killing them...An Israeli would never do such a thing to a little kid, Palastiniens are cold hearted...It's kinda hard to explain on the Internet...
No offence to the normal Palastinien people who are actually nice people and hate this war, but the one's who kill the innocent, and throw rocks at suviliens are sick!
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Actually, Some Of The Israelis In The Past, Have Done Some Horrible Things. The U.S. Initially Helped The Israelis, Then Kinda Did A "Hands Off" On The Whole Subject. That's Why The Palestinians Are Pissed, Because They Think We Support The Israelis Killing Palestinians.
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So many Americans have NO IDEA what has gone on in Israel/Palestine, being British we get to see shit your country do, that Americans dont get to see, and vice versa no doubt. Trauma and Infinate seem to be the only U.S cats who know the FULL (or at least most of it) story...
NOTHING can be said to justify this act of murder apon innocent civillians from America and around the world, and victimising America's Muslim and Middle Eastern inhabitants is wrong...
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Ok, lemme try to add my opinion.
I'm italian and christian, but.. lemme add some real shit right here: it's hella wrong to say "fuck Muslims, fuck Middle East, fuck Afghanistan, etc..".
First of all, if i was a Palestinian, today i was like making some noise and party and shit like this. They dont care about the Lakers, or about the Pentagon or McDonald's. America is supporting Israel, and Israel is bombing Palestina. They are killing palestinian, brothers, families, etc.. so.. what the fuck do u want from these guys? U want em to say: "Hell no! That's wrong! They can kill only us! Continue to bomb us, please!"? When i hear guys (expecially Americans) saying "kill em all: they was happy!" i go crazy. Have u seen the soccer match between Galatasaray and Lazio? Well.. the same day of the attack, the refree ordered a minute of silence, and turkish guys were like" Booooooooh.. Fuck Americans" and shit. Do u want to kill em all too? The problem is that guys in Turkey dont like America supporting Israel too. Trying to decide the sorts of the whole Middle East. Saddam Hussein said he was happy because of the tragedy, iranian guys were happy, guys in Liban were happy, etc.. But this got nothing to do with the Twin Towers, for real. This is about em. Em being bombed by America or Israel. That's why they hate America and are happy now. Not for the deads of the Twin Towers. 90% of em dont even know what the WTC is! They only know America is devil.When u talk about a country or a religion, u gotta understand that u aint talking about 20 guys. And that they are dying too, because of wars. To kill all those guys is a terrible act, and nobody can neglect this shit. BUT........ these guys aint fools, or racists. These terrorists are armed with American guns, they are financed by the USA, they learned how to flight in America, etc.. America gave money to their boss to fight Russia, he got family in Boston, he got billions of $ in Boston, etc.. And a lot of em were killed by Americans. They dont care to live or die cause they lost mothers, daddy's, friends, brothers. They wanna only revenge em. And this is what happens when u try to make peace (i'm talking about America).
TO MAKE PEACE, U ALWAYS GOTTA KILL SOME1.
Remember this. And that "some1" will hate you, for ever, for life.
This is what happened. And this is the reason of the attack.
R.I.P. FALLEN ANGELS. GOD BLESS THE DEADS OF THE WTC AND PENTAGON.
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antonio.....i don see no real shit in yo opinion.....
you europeans...may be EXEpt for ENGLAND...jus don get tha WHOLE PIC.....yos govz jus talk shit to overweight tha statez opinion.....
sec.....trauma...your point bout Arafat not wantin PEACE WHEN EHUD BARAK GAVE HIM 97% OF THA DEMAND.....that is surely tha highest that any israeli prime would ever give.....YOU RIGHT
yea.....AND ARAFAT WOULD GET HIZ ASS OFF....IF HE WOULD AGREE ...HE GOT TO MUCH TERORISTIC ORGZ....LEGITED FO 80 PLUS %....IN THA AUTONOMY
(THERE IS OFFISIALY NO SUCH THING AS PALESTINE RIGHT NOW)
Israel DOES WHATEVER IT CAN NOT TO HEART INOCENT PIPZ.....THO ITZ HARD...WHEN THA YOUNGSTAZ R MOTIVATED TO RUN TO THA FRONT LINE......NIK ...YOU RIGHT...ALTHOUGH PALESTINIANZ DON HAVE NO SOLDIERS...THEY GOT THA FATAH....ITZ THEIR POLICE...DAT NOW USEZ THA WEAPONS THAT THA ISRAELI GOVERMENT GAVE THEM AT PEACE TIMES TO PROTECT THEMSELVES AND NOW ITS USED AGAINST OUR SOLJAS....
ANTONIO...YOU NEED TO CHECK MY PREVIOUS POST BOUT THA WHOLE SHIT.....
THA ISRAELI GOVERMENT IS THA ONE DAT PAYZ FOR THA AUTONOMIES ELECTRISITY...PROVIDES JOBS TO MANY ..MANY WORKAZ....THAT WERE RECENTLY KILLING THEIR ISRAELI BOSSSEZ.....
AND MY OPINION IS THAT THEIR IS VIRTUALY NO INOCENT PERSON IN THESE RAGE DEMONSTRATIONZ THA PALESTINIANZ DO.....
MOST OF THEM R SOONER OR LATETR R GOIN TO PUL A SUCIDAL XPLOSION SOMEWHERE IN ISRAEL...AND THEN WELL HAVE INOCENT PIPZ DEAD....AND DATZ FUCKED UP...HOW WOULD YOU FEEL BEIN SCARED TO GET ON BUSEZ AND SHIT.....
OR GO EAT IN SOME FULLO PPZ RESTAURANT.....
I SWARE THAT IF IT WAZNT FOR THESE TERORISTIC ORGZ AND ARAFATZ 2 FACE POLICY...THA PALESTINIANZ WOULDNT HAVE ANY LOSEZ...ISRAEL HAZ NO INTEREST IN KILLING OR TAKIN OVER TERITORY RIGHT NOW (IF IT WAZNT FOR TERORISM)...OUR ACONOMY IZ PRETTY GOOD....WE GOT ONE OF THA BEST ARMIES IN THA WORLD IF NOT THA BEST....AND WE GOT STATEZ AS OUR PARTNER...WHAT ELSE DO WE NEED....ALL OF THEIR PROBZ R FROM THEM....
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i dunno bout all this shit but i'm pissed about everything that those islamic fundamentalists did and i condemn them to hell...but if i see a white boy harrassing a "normal" looking arab, muslim, or whatever i'm gonna beat the fuckin shit outta him..."i thought this was america people"...everything is fuckin sickening...those fuckin terrorist and those fuckin hicks waving the confederate flag while beating innocent people...
and to all the ignorant fuckers on this board saying "fuck muslims, fuck arabs, and fuck middle east" FUCK YOU! don't generalize bitch!
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antonio.....i don see no real shit in yo opinion.....
you europeans...may be EXEpt for ENGLAND...jus don get tha WHOLE PIC
THIS FIRST PERIOD IS THE PROOF THAT U CANT JUDGE NO POSTS, MAN! U ARE A LIL ISRAELIAN GUY WHO WAS TOLD TO HATE PALESTINA AND U DONT KNOW EVEN WHY. WHAT THE FUCK ARE U TALKING ABOUT? EXCEPT FOR ENGLAND? MORON! JUST CAUSE BLAIR SUCKS BUSH'S DICK? AND JUST CAUSE HE'S PROTECTING YOUR ASS? SHUT YA MOUTH, IT'S BETTER.
Israel DOES WHATEVER IT CAN NOT TO HEART INOCENT PIPZ
TOTALLY BULLSHIT! I DONT NEED TO COMMENT THIS SHIT. ANYWAY THEY BOMBED PALESTINA JUST TODAY! FUCK THIS SHIT. ISRAEL AINT THE VICTIM! AND U.S.A. AINT THE VICTIM IN THE MIDDLE EAST. PERDIOD.
HOW WOULD YOU FEEL BEIN SCARED TO GET ON BUSEZ AND SHIT..... OR GO EAT IN SOME FULLO PPZ RESTAURANT..... I SWARE THAT IF IT WAZNT FOR THESE TERORISTIC ORGZ AND ARAFATZ 2 FACE POLICY...THA PALESTINIANZ WOULDNT HAVE ANY LOSEZ...
ARE U TOTALLY ON CRACK? WHAT???????????? NO LOSEZ??? CHECK YOUR INFOS BETTER, MAN! PALESTINIAN GUYS ARE THE VICTIMS. ISRAEL IS BOMBING EM, AND THE ONLY THING THEY CAN DO IS TO ARM SOME KIDS WITH ROCKS AND TO DO SOME SUICIDAL ACTS, U KNOW.. BOMBS! IF THEY CAN ONLY DO THIS SHIT TO REPLY TO THE BOMBS, THIS MEANS THEY ARE LOSING. THIS MEANS THEY DONT HAVE THE ARMS OF THE AMERICANS. WHY ARENT THEY BOMBING IRSAEL WITH F-15 AND SHIT? WHY DONT THEY HAVE JEEPS, AND CARS, AND ALL THESE VEHICLES TO MAKE A FRONTAL ATTACK? CAUSE AMERICA IS FUCKING EM, IS DESTROYING EM (BY SUPPORTING YOU), IS OPPRESSING EM. SO THAT'S WHY IT'S COOL FOR EM TO BE HAPPY BECAUSE OF THE WTC AND THE PENTAGON. YOU ISRAEL DECLARED A "DAY OF MOURNING" YESTERDAY, AND WHILE U WAS MOURNING THE DEADS, U BOMBED PALESTINA. WTF??
WE GOT ONE OF THA BEST ARMIES IN THA WORLD IF NOT THA BEST....AND WE GOT STATEZ AS OUR PARTNER...WHAT ELSE DO WE NEED....ALL OF THEIR PROBZ R FROM THEM....
WHAT THE FUCK ARE U TALKING ABOUT? THE BEST ARMY IN THE WORLD? LMAO! ANYWAY.. IF U GOT NO PROBLEMS WITH PALESTINA, WHY U BOMBED EM TODAY? AND YESTERDAY? IT WAS ON THE NEWS. AND DONT TELL ME THAT SOME KIDS WITH ROCKS CAN KILL 300 ISRAELIAN GUYS. DONT EVEN TRY TO MAKE PALESTINIAN GUYS LOOKS LIKE THEY WANT THE WAR. U ISRAELIAN ARE JUST STRONGER CAUSE U.S.A. NEED YOUR MILITARY STATION TO CONTROL THE MIDDLE EAST AND SO IT'S PROTECTING YOU. FACE IT. AND THE WHOLE MIDDLE EAST IS AGAINST ISRAEL, EVEN TURKEY. YOU OBVIOUSLY CANT JUDGE THE OPINIONS OF ME OR OF THE OTHER GUYS IN THIS BOARD CAUSE U ARE AN ISRAELIAN GUY. U CAN'T. THIS AINT RACISM (IN NO WAY), BUT.. SINCE U ARE A SIDE OF THE WAR.. U CANT JUDGE THE OTHER SIDE. THAT'S ALL. PEACE.
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If You'll Look INto The Palestinians, You'll See That They Do NOT Think Rationally! They're Trying To Retake Control Of A Fucking ROCK. Come On. Think About that. All This Over A ROCK!
no offense cause i'm cool with everyone on this board but thats a really fucking IGNORANT statement...it's not just a "ROCK"...go read about it and then you'll understand the importance of the "ROCK" to the muslim people...it may not mean shit to you but it means everything to the followers of Islam...
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Ok, lemme try to add my opinion.
I'm italian and christian, but.. lemme add some real shit right here: it's hella wrong to say "fuck Muslims, fuck Middle East, fuck Afghanistan, etc..".
fuck you you lil racist bitch why the fuck are you swearing at muslims dat just shows how ignorant you are.
basically this whole shit happened because america have always been against muslims and helping out other religions e.g jewish they proved their it by bombing iraq earlier ???. what has american ppl gonna say about that, and alot of u american people are saying that afganistan are going down even tho i'm not an afganastani but those ppl aint scared of no one except ALLAH they got usama bin laden to supports them financially so if they beat russia then they surely don't give a fuck about wot america's gonna do. living in england also gives me a better view of wot's going on in palestine and isreal and to me america have surely helped isreal and has been tough on muslims in all occassions. heres an example dat wen india done the nuclear bomb explosion not that much happened to them and then pakistan had to do 1 as well because they were in threat from india and wen they did it america stopped most of the loans to help the poor in pakistan. so i think that america has always been against muslims. and as it says in QURAN all the great empires have to come to an end dat end might be near for america i kno i'm gonna get a lot of u americans pissd of with this post but it's a fact that america has always been against muslims.
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fuck you you lil racist bitch why the fuck are you swearing at muslims dat just shows how ignorant you are.
antonio that wasn't at u dat is for those lil bitch ass americans who think that america is always right no matter what dey do
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All i gotta say is that if U.S. bombs afghans they only add another enemy to their list. Cause it's true that afghan(which are not arabs) are sheltering Bin Laden but afghani people had never done anything to U.S. and if U.S. fucks with them then Afghan people will start hating U.S. too. and they will probably retaliate at some point some how.
i guess you could call those people who hijacked the plains as terrorists but come to think of it. lets say they were supported by Saddam Hossein (which i think is very possible) he doesn't have no military power to retaliate against U.S. he's country is in hell because of U.S. for the past decade and he can't do shit about it cause he ain't got the missles, F-14's and Satelite support that u.s. does, so when u hijack a plane with all that fuel that becomes your missle. it's sad but true. there is no other way for these people to retaliate.
anyways this whole crisis suck... i think not only things will not get better but it's gonna get worse. cause u.s. will attack some poor country that has nothing to do with it and will increase the hatred against U.S.
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im glad some of you see my point. im so happy to see ther are still intelligewnt people in this world. even though you might have some other shit twisted. its good to see people that think that its wrong to beat people cause of their race and religion
BTW since BUSH said to stop it hasnt it been more quiet and people calmed down or are there still people commiting ignorant acts?
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It's A Fucking Rock. No Doubt, A Holy, Important Rock, But A Rock. Do You Think For 1 FUCKING SECOND That Jesus, OR Allah Will Care Who Owns The RockWhen They REturn? Hell No, It Means Nothing.
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good point. jesus or muhammad would rather have them give up on the rock then kill each other for it. its just not worth it.
and just to get somethin clear, God and Allah are the same. Allah means God in Arabic. some people get it mixed and think Allah is a whole differnt god but no. Muslims believe in the same God as Christians do. there is only one God
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antonio that wasn't at u dat is for those lil bitch ass americans who think that america is always right no matter what dey do
Yeah, it's cool, man! ;)
Anyway.. to all the guys who said this was a coward act: i agree totally! FOR REAL, BUT..
BUT..
dont forget Japan won a military battle in Hawaii (a noble win. I mean.. it's not noble to win against USA, or to kill guys. But it was a battle fought military against military) and U.S.A., in revenge, killed millions of guys with 2 atomic bombs.
SO.. go slow when u write something negative about other countries and other guys. U JUST CANT GENERALIZE LIKE THIS. Peace.
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All i gotta say is that if U.S. bombs afghans they only add another enemy to their list. Cause it's true that afghan(which are not arabs) are sheltering Bin Laden but afghani people had never done anything to U.S. and if U.S. fucks with them then Afghan people will start hating U.S. too. and they will probably retaliate at some point some how.
actually the Afgans already hate the US becuase we supplied israel with weapons to protect themselves....and as for us bombing them they're not going bomb the actual citiy and residential areas we're going to bomb all military camps and and all possible terrorist hiding places and what not the U.S. would be in ALOT of trouble by internationational law if they just bombed a billion civilians that's why the US has so many allies all over the world becuase those terrorists committed war crimes against us and attacked innocent civilians
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Bombing the Afgans is wrong. We should be bigger people by being patient and looking more into the situation instead of slanging our weapons around like Dbomb slangs his ice sickles.
Remember the word JUSTICE not unneeded violence.
Thats my view.
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we will have to bomb afganistan though, we CLEARLY told them that if they don't bring us Bin Laden then we and our Allies will retaliate against them .....and they havn't done anything to get him , if some yahoo from Musak Georgia who was a white supremesict went over there and slaughtered some dude and the afgans wanted him to procisicute him we'd hand him over Imediatly...but since they're not it's got us REALLY suspicious...it's like Collen Powel said if you're not cooperating with us you're against us, and it's true
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yeah jake is right
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You got some good points but there must be a more peaceful alternative.
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unfortunatly theres no peacful retaliation to this situation
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Nah, there is always a peaceful route but its just people don't want to take it. I don't understand how we are against terrorism but yet we are threatening the Afgans and putting terror in their hearts.
Contradiction at its finest.
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yeah true there is almost ALWAYS a peacful mannor in handling a situation like this, but if we were to do that, do you know how mad the majority of this country would be that there would be no retribution and how mad allies of this country would be that we (the strongest nation in the world) if we won't fight for ourselves what makes them think that they would help to fight for our allies....it's kinda hard to explain but right now theres no other option than some sort of military attack...weather it's an infantry attack or a bombing attack...we sort of have to do this for the sake of the world basically....plus it's not just a thing against afganistan...it's also a war against terrorism as a whole in every country so if it's bin laden or not, they're almost all going down....afganistan as a country won't be shook , just their military ...but on the news they made it clear that this is not a war on afganistan but on whoever terroism as a whole wherever...even in our own country
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Everyone Read.....................
You know wat I hate tha most........I hate it when Bush gets up there and says "Today our freedom waz attacked by faceless cowards 4 NO REASON"......
Dat statement rite there makes Ignorant people in USA start takin shit in their own hands........
I mean theres other countries like Sweden, Netherlands or other western countries etc. dat have tha same kinda freedom and u dont see them gettin attacked......
U know why? B/c they sit on tha side lines.......America goes on tha field and tackles otha muthafuckas from BEHIND and hurts them BAD, then when they get tackled themselves, they're like Wat was dat for?? I didn't do nothin.......... ::)
And anotha thing I hate is Ignorant fools sayin those people in Palestine dat celebrate on tha street are evil.................put yurself in their shoes 4 a second............If someone waz supplyin weopens and bombs 2 another country 2 blow up yur country and kill yur family and friends got attacked........Wat would u do?? Cry dat tha war's over or celebrate??
Anywayz dont get me wrong bout all this, Them terrorsits were pure heartless.........I know they had a point 2 make, But It just didnt need 2 go down like this..........
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tha7th i ain't baggin on your post but alot of that is false....the reason why swedon sits on the sidelines is becuase they don't have that much power ...but we're the MOST powerful nation and have are obligated to help the littler guys.....palestine was invading israel BAD before the US helped us...and actually actacked them right when the US was getting them to make peace...that's pretty messed up...the u.s didn't attack no one from behind their backs they just even the odds when they were called upon to help with FUNDS...the US practically patrols almost the whole world...and that's almost our job as the most powerful nation to protect the world as well as ourselfs
and NO not all the of the palesteins celebrated in the streets...and NO we do NOT supress their people...the fucking leaders of Palestien said that they were DISCUSTED with the way a few of their people were acting and condoned that act and yasir arafat donated blood to the united sates as an appaulagy and all the rest of their government was like what the hell! and was hella disapointed and they got footage of other palestenians mourning the situation
and if this happened in Palestein you KNOW America woulda offered them help Yasir Arafat and Clinton got along WELL and you know that this would be all over the news and that hardly ANYONE in america would be pulling a stupid stunt like that their would be a wave of mouring (maybe not a HUGE wave but there would be) and we'd offer our help in this PLEEEEEEZ BA LEEEV IT and you know it's true just ask Canda and Tony Blair
and YES this was an attack on our Freedom....INNOCENT people who had NOTHING to do with no silly war or even knew about it for that matter were slautered using our own planes with even more INNOCENT people in there....
and they did this all without waring .....at least when the US attacks theres a waring....this was a bonified BITCH MOVE....if your going to attack the us at least do it with pride and go for the ones you have a beef with ...the military...and see how successful your ass will be
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Ya u rite, This waz a BITCH MOVE.....
But tell me how USA is helpin them make peace by supplyin Israel weopens??
This is wat my Government teacher told me.....USA's Economy has alot ties wit Israel and its Jewish leaders......Therefore if Israel goes down, alot of US's Economy will go down wit it, therefore USA is protectin their Economy by Allyin wit Israel in this war v.s Palestine.......In my opinion they dont care bout these countries makin peace, they just protectin their investment.........If Israel didnt have anythin 2 do wit usa's economy, usa would help both palestine and Israel behind tha scenes 2 destroy eachother, just like they use 2 do in tha Iran vs Iraq war some years ago..........
And anotha thing, All tha people in Palestine arent celebratin........But u dont see USA's media showin dat, do u? Dat is why Ignorant fools are takin shit at their own hands and startin fights and pourin blood on mosques etc.
But once again it really didnt need 2 go down like this........
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Ya u rite, This waz a BITCH MOVE.....
But tell me how USA is helpin them make peace by supplyin Israel weopens??
This is wat my Government teacher told me.....USA's Economy has alot ties wit Israel and its Jewish leaders......Therefore if Israel goes down, alot of US's Economy will go down wit it, therefore USA is protectin their Economy by Allyin wit Israel in this war v.s Palestine.......In my opinion they dont care bout these countries makin peace, they just protectin their investment.........If Israel didnt have anythin 2 do wit usa's economy, usa would help both palestine and Israel behind tha scenes 2 destroy eachother, just like they use 2 do in tha Iran vs Iraq war some years ago..........
And anotha thing, All tha people in Palestine arent celebratin........But u dont see USA's media showin dat, do u? Dat is why Ignorant fools are takin shit at their own hands and startin fights and pourin blood on mosques etc.
But once again it really didnt need 2 go down like this........
the us trying to make between palastein has been happening waaaaaay before the us started funding israel with weapons....they were trying to get them to sign a tready in the clinton adminitration them yasir arifat (i don't know why he's usually a cool guy) invaded israel and israel was getting fucked...so they aske the us for help and yes the us does have ties with them but the us has finantual ties with just about EVERYONE IN THE WORLD even little jungle dudes in south america if israel falls it won't make a difference finantually to the us that is false....but anywyas after WW2 ....US was obligated to help the jewish people ...and that's what they did help them....in their time of need
anyways the USA does care about palestein making peace with israel (and no it's not a money thing your teacher should get a dick slap for saying something that ignorant) if they make peace it'll be a burdon off the whole world's back...it's like 2 kids bickering in class you don't need them fighting there you need to be concerning yourslefs with bigger foes
and YES the media DOES show the muslums in palestein mourning too they've showed it a billion times on NBC , ABC, CBS, and Fox news...so don't say that...at first the celebration video was shown cuz that's the only video we had but they DO show the other footage and even talked to palastenian leaders who CONDONED these celebrations....and arab and muslums would've been discrimnated REGARDLESS...it's sad but it's a sad truth, if the news showed that or not, and shit like that has been already happening before all this the media is just picking it up more since it's a bigger issue now
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First Point: The Last 3, Yes 3 Wars The U.S.A. Has Fought, (Or I Should Say Military Excursions) Were To PROTECT Muslims. So DONT GIMME THAT SHIT About We Side With Israel, Because They're Jewish. The Last 3 TIMES We Went To Bat For Muslims! Damn People. We Have The Most Money In The World. What A BITCH We Would Be To Hog It To Ourselves, While The Rest Of The World Starved. Yes, We Get Involved, It's The RIGHT THING TO DO. It's Our Obligation As World Leaders, And Usually, Each Time, The United Nations BACKS Our Intentions. So It's Not Just Us; Really, Reading This Shit, A Lot Of Yall Are Miseducated, And Haven't Done Your Homework. Saying The U.S. Shouldn't Stick Their Nose In Is An Ignorant Statement. How About The Peeps We Lost In Kosovo, Fighting For Muslims? Or Kuwait... Or Somalia...
The Problem Is, A Lotta Peeps Don't Understand What It's Like To Truly Be Free. Freedom Is A Lot More Than Being Able To Make Your Own Decisions. Freedom Is Contagious, The Fall Of The Berlin Wall, And The Story In Russia Prove This. In America, We Have Muslims, Jews, And Christians, All Living Side By Side, With Little Problems. Sure, There's Some, But Nothing Like In Other Countries. Generally, Every Redneck I Know Could Care Less What Relgion People Practice. On The Other Hand, In Afganistan, Peeps Are CURRENTLY Being Killed, For Promoting Christianity. What The F*ck? That's Not Right, How Can It Be? Islam Doesn't Teach That... That Country Is Ran By A Corrupt Government, Yall. Anyone Can See That. ANYONE. If You Can't, Then Open Your Eyes.
In America, Everyone Has Equal Opportunity. At Least Legally; Of Course Racism Is Still A Problem, And Sexism, But We Are Doing Well With It; The Situations Much Better Today Than 10 Years Ago. In America, It's Legal To Worship The Devil If You Want; That's Your Choice, And That's Freedom.
If America Sits Behind, And Allows this Negative Shit To Exist In The World, Then Eventually It'll Spread Here, And Take Us Over Too. That's Why We Promote Freedom Through The World; It's How It Was Meant To Be. Any Religion Will Teach You That.
Next: America Has Been Slapped In The Face For Years. We Are Viewed As A Fuckin' Joke When It Comes To THis; People Think They Can Just Walk All Over Us, Because Our Court System Protects Them. Well, There's An Old Saying, All's Fair In Love And War. Yeah, You Bitch Slapped Us 1 Too Many Times (Terrorists). Bin Ladin Bombed The American Embassy's, And We Ran A Weak Ass Asualt On 2 Of His Old Compounds, Minimal Damage. Bin Ladin Then Floated A Boat Of Explosives Up To The U.S. Cole, And Blew A Big Ass Hole In The Side Of It, We Did Nothing. In Both Instances, We've Lost American Citizens. America Allowed It, And You Know What Happened? (This Goes To Sikotic), He Did It Again, And Now There's 5000 People Dead In New York. Well Fuck That, He's NOT Doing It Again, And Neither Is Any Terrorist, Because It's EVIL, We're Taking Them Out For The World, With Or Without Anyone's Help. England, Israel, France, Canada, Mexico, And Britain Are Just A Few Of the Countries So FAr That I Have Heard AGREE With This. Terrorism Is A Threat To Freedom, And It Is A Threat To The Future Of The World!
When We Fought To Leave England In The 1700's, You Know What? We Did It For RELIGIOUS FREEDOM. Today, We HAVE Religious Freedom. What Do You Think Benjamin Franklin Would Say About This? What a PISS On His Grave It Would Be To Allow This To Happen.
As It Stands, We Have Two Choices. Arrest BinLadin, And Then Wonder How Many People Will Come For Us. How Many Attacks Does BinLadin Have In STore For Us? This One Was Began Being Planned In '93, Since Then, He's Bombed 2 Other Things, Before This ONe! Each Bigger; How Many Does He Have Being Planned Now? 2? 3? How Many Dead, 5000? 10,000? Nuclear Attack?
BinLadin Represents Evil. Anyone Who Doesn't Think That, Well, I Hope You Get Your Mind Right. The Taliban Is Allowing Him To Train Terrorists On Their Land. That's Like Me Selling O.J. A Knife, It Shows Their Heart; They Don't Give A Fuck What He Does With Those Terrorists, As Long As They Get His Money. Well,Fuck That, Because They're The Enemy Too. The U.S. Has CONTINUALLY Stated That Innocents Should Not Be Harmed, And Colin Powell Said Yesterday That Without A Doubt,That Is The #1 Concern Of The U.S. Military. We Have NO Problem With Afganistan, Just With Their Government.
We Cannot Arrest BinLadin; A Recent Study Shows He Has Connections, And Bases In AT LEAST 34 Countries, Including Yours And Mine. If We Arrest Him, More Will Come. We Need To Show The World, And His Followers, That This Is UnAcceptable. This Is The Devil On Earth, Yall, Imprisoning Him Will Not Stop This, Because Then He'll Have People Wanting Him Released. He Doesn't Act Alone, He Acts With Hundreds, So Each Must Be Eliminated. It's Like A Bad Rat Problem. If An Example Isn't Made, Then Next Time, It'll Be 20,000 Dead, Since the U.S. Doesn't Do Anything.
Peacefull Solution? Where Is Peace? Not Here, Because We Don't Know What's Next! Is L.A. Safe? Is New York? Washington? Charlotte, My City? Shit, We Need To Eradicate The Enemy. All Is Fair In Love And War, Remember?
If You Come To Me, And Talk To Me About A Problem, I'm Gonna Talk. If I Have A Problem, I'm Gonna Go To You And Talk. If You Take It From Talking, To Slapping Me In THe Face, It's Time For Me To Knock You The Fuck Out. THAT'S How America Should Act Too, There's ONLY SO MUCH, Yall. If We Keep Talking, Guess What? Actions Won't Stop, They'll Just Be Talked About. It Takes Action Sometimes to Stop Action.
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Man, dat waz some post Trauma, nice job....
But I still aint sure why usa waz helpin out Israel?
Economy or tha Jewish ties yall mentioned??
Yo and wats this thing I been hearin bout how Ben Ladin cant be arrested in America or be executed and tha british need 2 take him or somethin of dat matter?
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A Lot Of It Is Palestinians Were Going To Invade The Holy Land (For Both Sides, It's Holy), And America Didn't Want That. Another Is That U.S.A. Feels Everyone Shouldn't Have To Worry About Invasions, And Palestinians Wanted To Take Over Israel (Or At Least Jerusalem). The Weapons Were Intended To Fight Back Against Invasion, Instead Israelis Have Been Invading Palestinians.
Jewish Ties Is Another Factor, I Won't Say That's Not Part Of It, Because It Probably Is. The News Here Says We Helped Because They Are The Only Westernly Civilized Nation Over There. Whatever That Means.
Binladin Can't Be Extradited, Because Afganistan Won't Do It. They Said If We Prove He Did It, And Let Them View The Evidence, That They May Consider Extraditing Him To A Islamic Court, Which Wouldn't Be Us. However, He's Already Been Proven Guilty For The Embassy Bombings.
Another Thing, Pakistan Wouldn't Let Us Use Their Air Space In '98 When We Bombed BinLadin Over The Embassies. So, They're Kinda On The Edge, Too. Afganistan, Pakistan, And Iraq May Come Down To Fight Together.
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Iraqs army is crap though ain't it?
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So tha weopens were given 2 Israel 2 defend themselves against Palestine, But Instead Israel used tha material 2 Invade?
Wat tha fuck?
Ah and I think Iraq's Army is crap, but they still have all those nuclear weopens rite?
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iraq doesn't have any nuclear war heads ...at least i don't think....the only things they have really are biological and chemicle warefare weapons
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iraq doesn't have any nuclear war heads ...at least i don't think....the only things they have really are biological and chemicle warefare weapons
excatly ... imo
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Iraq Can't Do Anything. In The Gulf War, They Didn't Kill Hardly Anybody; Most Of The Soldiers Gave Up And Surrendered Everytime We Got Near Them. I Believe We Just Took Their Weapons And Let Them Go.
They Don't Have Any Nukes, They DO Like Said Have Chemical Warfare.
Pakistan, Afganistan, And Iraq Don't Pose Any Threat, It's Just The Terrorist Isolated Attacks That Do.
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Trauma is very misinformed about this subject. I encourage everyone to ask someone who will give you honest answers about the situation in the middle east, someone who is knowledgeable about the situation, and who doesn't let their anger get the best of them.
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how's trauma misinformed???
the only misinformed one here is you (and you can take that however you want)
just becuase trauma is mad about something doesn't mean he's automatically misinformed...if he's so misinformed i'd love to hear you distorted version of all this...mr. i'm going to make a bible like book of pac's life
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Re: America is not completely innocent in all this
« Reply #55 on: 09/14/01 at 15:08:24 »
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HERE IS WHAT ANTONIO BULLSHITED....:
"antonio.....i don see no real shit in yo opinion.....
you europeans...may be EXEpt for ENGLAND...jus don get tha WHOLE PIC
THIS FIRST PERIOD IS THE PROOF THAT U CANT JUDGE NO POSTS, MAN! U ARE A LIL ISRAELIAN GUY WHO WAS TOLD TO HATE PALESTINA AND U DONT KNOW EVEN WHY. WHAT THE FUCK ARE U TALKING ABOUT? EXCEPT FOR ENGLAND? MORON! JUST CAUSE BLAIR SUCKS BUSH'S DICK? AND JUST CAUSE HE'S PROTECTING YOUR ASS? SHUT YA MOUTH, IT'S BETTER.
Israel DOES WHATEVER IT CAN NOT TO HEART INOCENT PIPZ
TOTALLY BULLSHIT! I DONT NEED TO COMMENT THIS SHIT. ANYWAY THEY BOMBED PALESTINA JUST TODAY! FUCK THIS SHIT. ISRAEL AINT THE VICTIM! AND U.S.A. AINT THE VICTIM IN THE MIDDLE EAST. PERDIOD.
HOW WOULD YOU FEEL BEIN SCARED TO GET ON BUSEZ AND SHIT..... OR GO EAT IN SOME FULLO PPZ RESTAURANT..... I SWARE THAT IF IT WAZNT FOR THESE TERORISTIC ORGZ AND ARAFATZ 2 FACE POLICY...THA PALESTINIANZ WOULDNT HAVE ANY LOSEZ...
ARE U TOTALLY ON CRACK? WHAT NO LOSEZ CHECK YOUR INFOS BETTER, MAN! PALESTINIAN GUYS ARE THE VICTIMS. ISRAEL IS BOMBING EM, AND THE ONLY THING THEY CAN DO IS TO ARM SOME KIDS WITH ROCKS AND TO DO SOME SUICIDAL ACTS, U KNOW.. BOMBS! IF THEY CAN ONLY DO THIS SHIT TO REPLY TO THE BOMBS, THIS MEANS THEY ARE LOSING. THIS MEANS THEY DONT HAVE THE ARMS OF THE AMERICANS. WHY ARENT THEY BOMBING IRSAEL WITH F-15 AND SHIT? WHY DONT THEY HAVE JEEPS, AND CARS, AND ALL THESE VEHICLES TO MAKE A FRONTAL ATTACK? CAUSE AMERICA IS FUCKING EM, IS DESTROYING EM (BY SUPPORTING YOU), IS OPPRESSING EM. SO THAT'S WHY IT'S COOL FOR EM TO BE HAPPY BECAUSE OF THE WTC AND THE PENTAGON. YOU ISRAEL DECLARED A "DAY OF MOURNING" YESTERDAY, AND WHILE U WAS MOURNING THE DEADS, U BOMBED PALESTINA. WTF??
WE GOT ONE OF THA BEST ARMIES IN THA WORLD IF NOT THA BEST....AND WE GOT STATEZ AS OUR PARTNER...WHAT ELSE DO WE NEED....ALL OF THEIR PROBZ R FROM THEM....
WHAT THE FUCK ARE U TALKING ABOUT? THE BEST ARMY IN THE WORLD? LMAO! ANYWAY.. IF U GOT NO PROBLEMS WITH PALESTINA, WHY U BOMBED EM TODAY? AND YESTERDAY? IT WAS ON THE NEWS. AND DONT TELL ME THAT SOME KIDS WITH ROCKS CAN KILL 300 ISRAELIAN GUYS. DONT EVEN TRY TO MAKE PALESTINIAN GUYS LOOKS LIKE THEY WANT THE WAR. U ISRAELIAN ARE JUST STRONGER CAUSE U.S.A. NEED YOUR MILITARY STATION TO CONTROL THE MIDDLE EAST AND SO IT'S PROTECTING YOU. FACE IT. AND THE WHOLE MIDDLE EAST IS AGAINST ISRAEL, EVEN TURKEY. YOU OBVIOUSLY CANT JUDGE THE OPINIONS OF ME OR OF THE OTHER GUYS IN THIS BOARD CAUSE U ARE AN ISRAELIAN GUY. U CAN'T. THIS AINT RACISM (IN NO WAY), BUT.. SINCE U ARE A SIDE OF THE WAR.. U CANT JUDGE THE OTHER SIDE. THAT'S ALL. PEACE."
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.....yea...i am a side of tha war......but i am tha only one here who can realy judge tha whole situation.........you are one of tha most missinformed ppl i ever needed to prove a point to.....you think that you can just pick an opinion and start provin it....although you AIN got not even one fact...except for israel bein hated by all tha arabic countries around......which doesnt renew or prove squad
tha reason i said England is tha only country who knowez tha situation is cuaze they got a terrorism history.....tha whole Irish thing.....and they can realy relate......bout other european countries....they r mostly jus trin to overweight tha statez opinion...if youd know squad about politiCs...you would know why
.....now.....bout tha bull you spitted on israel gettin into the teritorys and shit...if yo dumbass would know...we had another kamakazi on tue. or wed.
so israel had to react.....we cant jus shut ourselves when our sevilians die and get injured..so tha army got into Janin....for two reasons.....one i alreaDY LISTED AND THA SEC IS CAUZE WE HAD INFO THAT MOST OF THA KAMAKAZIS WAZ OUT OF THEIR....
SO THA ARMY FUCKED THEM BITCHES.....YEA SOME PIPZ DIED....BUT WE HAD NO CHOICE..ANOTHER WEEK OR SO AND WE WOULD HAVE MO XPLOSIONS....WE HAD TO NUETRALIZE DIS.....YOU NEED TO GET MORE FACTS...THAN JUS TO SAY...ISRAEL BOMBD...BLA BLA...THEY DIDNT EVEN BOMB...THEY OPENED FIRE....IT HAZ NOTHIN TO DO WIT THANATIONAL MOURN DAY.....ECSEPT FOR DEALIN WIT MO TERORISTS...AMD THEY INVADED TO THAT SNAKE GROUND.....TO GET THEM BITCHES THAT WOULD PROBLY DIE ANYHOW IN A WEEK OR TWO.....
NOW SEC.... YOU MORON...THEY WOULDNT HAVE NO VICTOMS IF IT WAZNT FOR ARAFATS TWO FACE POLICY AND THEM TERORISTS...I KNOW I SHOULDNT ARGUE WIT IGNORANT DUMBASSES LIKE YOU....BUT I STILL WILL...CUAZE IT PISSES ME THAT SUCH A BULLSHITER....TWISTS SHIT WITHOUT HAVIN ANY FACTS....AS I SAID WE DONT NEED THEIR FACKIN TERESTORIES...WE WOULD BE PERFECT IF IT WAZNT FOR THIS FUCKKIN KAMAKAZIS....
OF COURSE ISRAEL IS STILL REPLING...WE JUST HAD A KAMAKZI XPLOSION ON A RAILROAD IN NAHARIA THIS WEEK...LOOK NOW WHAT THA STATES R GOIN TO DO AFTER DA SHIT THAT HAPPEND TO THEM...A COUNTRY CANT IGNORE WHEN ITS SEVLIANS DIE ON THEIR WAY TO WORK....OR IN A RESTAURANT...YOU SEE...EVEN THA FACT THAT YOU DIDNT KNOW WHY DID ISRAEL IVADE TO JANIN ALREADY SHOWES HOW IGNORANT OR MISINFORMED YOU ARE.....
AND BOUT ANOTHER BIGGGGG BULLSHIT YOU SPITTED........AN AUTONOMY ....A COUNTRY...A GOVERMENT.....THAT ALOWES ITS KIDS....LOL 14
13...12 YEAR OLD.....GO TO THA FRONTLINE..SHOULD NOT EVEM EXSIST.....WHAT KINDA SICK ASS SHOULD SOMEONE BE TO DO THIS///AND YOU KNOW WHY THEY DO IT?...ONLY FOR THA WHOLE PARAPAKANDA BULL....SO THEY CAN SAY LATER ISRAEL KILLS INOCENT KIDS....HA....THESE WOULD GROW UP AND PROBLY GO AND BLOW UP SOME SUPERMARKET AND SHIT/////.....JUST TO SHOW YOU HOW ISRAELWOULD TREAD THWEM MUCH BETTER IF IT WAZNR FOR THIS WHOLE SHIT....WE GOT EVEN PALESTINIAN PIPZ INOUR PARLAMENT....AND NOT JUS PALESTINIANS...TYHESE R ONES THAT SUPPORT THA AOUTONOMY.....IMAGINE STATES HAVIN A RUSSSIAN MEMBER OF THA PARLAMENT DURIN THA COLD WAR.....OR SOMTHUIN OF THIS METTER.....
THEY COULD GET 97% OF THA DEMAND AND ARAFAT DISSAGREED...REMEMBER CAMP DAVID...MORON?...DO YOU?.....WELL XPLAIN WHY DID ARAFAT DISSAGREE...DUNNO???...GO CHECK MY PREVIOUS POST YOU IGNORANT ASS....
YOU JUS SOME LIL KID WHO THINKS HE IZ IN A DEBATE GROUP...THAT CAN JUS PICK AN OPINION AND DO WHATEVER TO PROVE IT.....
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ANOTHER SHIT YOU IGNORANT ASSHOLE......
EVERY DAY WE GOT SEVILIANS DIEIN ON THEIR WAY TO WORK WHILE THEY DRIVE THEIR CARS FROM TERORISTS THAT HIDE IN THA BUSHES AND OPEN FIRE ON MOVIN CARS OR FROM DRIVE BY SHOOOTINGS....YOU OUTSIDE DONT EVEN HERE BOUT THESE ......
DID YOU HERE BOUT THA DELFINARIUM XLPOSION WHERE 20 SOMTHIN KIDS...YOUG KIDS DIED...DID YOU....THEY JUS WENT OUT ON FRIDAY NIGHT TO A CLUB......WOULD YOU LIKE THAT.....
AND WHEN ISRAEL DIDNT REPLY THA NEXT DAY AND HELD THA REPLY BACK....NOW NO ONE EVEN REMEMBERS THAT.......
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I think that infinite has a bit of a point there. Iam a Canadian n iam neither christian nor muslim. I believe that we should treat all religions equally. Nyway i think that USA should'nt attack afghanistan. 1st of all because they cant be the judges to decide wether to attack or not, secondly ...attacking a country as such could trigger another world war n we dont wanna have that in the world....I'd say to attack the terrorists without killing the civilians cause they havent done nuthin. The US has always had a policy of acting like an international policeman...they always interfere in other nations business. USA supports whomever it likes n that aint fair....they r not completely innocent as well. They were a imperialist nation in the past. When japan attacked pearl harbour, usa threw the atomic bombs ....over 120,000 ppl in japan were killed and many atill suffer from the aftereffects of the bombs. u know ithink its not a big thing when just 50,000 ppl r dead in the US...for example 6 million jews were killed by the nazis in the holocaust n noone even cared to save them. As for palestine...they r fighting for their own reason...if u check the history of both the nations, israel is the culprit. israel had occupied large territories of palestine n the ppl'e belongongs in the past n ever since then theres been figting between both sides.... i think that there was no damn need for usa to back israel or any other country...this bombing shit would never had happened then...
check this out
BRITAIN HAD TAKEN OVER PALESTINE IN THE 1920s AS IT WAS AN IMPERIALST NATION...BUT AFTER 1947 THIS SHIT HAPPENED
After looking at various alternatives, the UN proposed the partitioning of Palestine into two independent States, one Palestinian Arab and the other Jewish, with Jerusalem internationalized (Resolution 181 (II) of 1947). One of the two States envisaged in the partition plan proclaimed its independence as Israel and in the 1948 war expanded to occupy 77 per cent of the territory of Palestine. Israel also occupied the larger part of Jerusalem. Over half the indigenous Palestinian population fled or were expelled. Jordan and Egypt occupied the other parts of the territory assigned by the partition resolution to the Palestinian Arab State which did not come into being.
In the 1967 war, Israel occupied the remaining territory of Palestine, until then under Jordanian and Egyptian control (the West Bank and Gaza Strip). This included the remaining part of Jerusalem, which was subsequently annexed by Israel. The war brought about a second exodus(migration) of Palestinians, estimated at half a million.
i wish that this newyork shit never should have happened...looks like theres gonna be more trouble in the world now...
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Trauma is certainly not misinformed, but i think hes leaving out some facts. Yes the US in recent years has been a global peacekeeper to many nations, thats true. but sometimes there are other motives, why u think the CIA and FBI are so secretive? not just to protect information, but to avoid pissing off Americans because to be honest, some of their operations are sheisty to say the least.
When they helped create the state of Israel after WW2 (after Jews flee'd from Europe and the holocaust back to their homeland) the president at the time Harry Truman realized he would win the Jewish vote in the US by supporting them.
When the US started military actions in Kosovo, it was the same day as an important part in Clinton's little sex scandal (i forget what it was right now).
coincidences? maybe, but probably not.
dont get me wrong, im on the US's side fo sho, but i dont like seeing patriotism covering up some important facts.
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a lot of u r saying that there's no match for america but if all the muslim nations unite then may be there is because pakistan are 1 of the few nations that have nuclear bomb and tested it even when america was stopping them to test them. India is big country about 5 times bigger than pakistan and had like 6 wars with them but still havnt been able to beat pakistan. so u lot need 2 get ur facts because muslims are fighters and fight any1 for their religion and beliefs espically afganistan who ain't scared of no1 and even made russia turn back. another thing there aint no fuckin proof dat usama bin laden has done all this if they have a proper evidence that he has caused this plane crashed then it's right to go after him but they are only going after them because they think that he might have done it and there's no actual evidance which i think is not right. any of y'all dissagree with me then post back what u think that i have said is not true
peace
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i also wanna put some light on the kashmir matter where thousands of innocent people get killed by armed indian army. alot of u american ppl might not get a lot of news on wot goes on in kashmir but in over england we get a lot of news on that. basically it's the same as wot goes on in palastine and america hasn't done nothing and i really mean nothing to stop that violence so here another proof of how america is always against muslims
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but i dont like seeing patriotism covering up some important facts.
Ya, u rite, Patriotism does cover up important facts.......And America's general public only hears wat tha media says.......But what they dont hear is da most important.......But I could see how USA hides it, I mean they dont want peeps 2 get pissed off at their own government, like many otha countries....
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america is always against muslims
not true. the US backed Afghanistan when the Soviet Union invaded them in the 80s. they have also supported Muslims on numerous occasions in the past. this isnt a USA hates Muslims thing.
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so here another proof of how america is always against muslims
huh???
america is NOT against ANY religious group...i don't know where you're from but if you watched the news for 1 minute you would know that we actually use to be allies with the afgans a while ago and have protected MANY MANY muslum nations in the past, and if you watched the news here for 1 second you'd know the US is doing every thing in their power to stop muslum discrimination in this country .....if your are going to continue to make ignorant comments like that i suggest you stop posting on this subject
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i will make this simple
why alot of muslims hate america
1- unequivocal suppor of israel
first of all, what right did britain have to make palestine its proctorate in 1920? what right did they have then to announce the creation of a jewish state?
its not their land. its like me taking your sandwich, breaking off a piece, and giving less than half back to u. what right did the US have to slice an dice countries around the world (vietnam, korea, palestine)?? its understandable that israel' self defene must be maintained, but is illegally annexing land (east jerusalem) self defence?, how about invading countries that are of no threat to u (lebanon), is that self defence too? wait,how about the existence of settlements in the middle of arab land, the flooding of arab lands with jewish settlers to off set the population and subsquently reduce the right arabs have to that land? is that self defence?
is killing 600 civilians self defece too????
is kicking out 3 million palestinians from their homes to make way for jews self defence?
2- the support america gives to puppet secular regimes
examples of these regimes, exist in egypt, saudi arabia, jordon,turkey...etc
people want an islamic govt, nope! america cant have that!!
3- american hypocricy
america claims to stand up for human rights, democracy etc. but it always has a hidden agenda
america hates muslims, dont bring up occasions where you "help" muslims, observe:
example 1- afghanistan,
america didnt help us to establish democracy or none of that shit, they wanted to fuck up the russians, afghan casualties were expedable
example 2- kosovo
media led u to believe that you were helping muslims that were facing genocide
WRONG, they wanted to topple one of the last remaining socialist regimes in europe, they could have been killed sheeps in kosovo, NATO would stil have got involved.
whenever US "helps" muslims, there is a hidden agenda.....
israel has commited attrociies in palestine, with the help and blessing of the americans,
its like this, i like this analogy
its like israel and palestine are lil kids fightin, big US, steps in and holds palestine, while israel gets some punches and kicks in, then when palestine tries to fight back, america stands in front of israel
another thing, with the threat of an american attack on afghanistan evident, lots of people have been saying, "afghanistan is gonna get disintegrated" or shit like that.....
the russians are on line 1, ask them what happened when they came in to our home, the people are fanatical, the terrain is treacherous, and your casualties will grow, can u say vietnam???
we afghans grow up with a pacifier in our mouth and a gun in our hand, we are a war hardened tribal people, we know our land, we are not afraidto die, we are dying anyways, we have nothing to lose
meanwhile your american soldiers, for all the technology and training you have, dont have heart, you are all living the american dream, you cannot imagine wht is waiting for u,
we aint backing down, and u know it too
let me adress some people
mr. loc and the7th, you guys aint muslim, but u guys have constantly made solid points and arguments, i commend u, and u have my respect
i bo, and infinite , my brothers
trauma, i cant blame u, you're uninformed, but ifu were standing in front of me, and said we were fighting over a "fuckin rock", i would beat u till my arms got tired, u dont say shit like that, thats fatal
bpg- ignorant punk
jake- shouldnt be in this type of conversation
nik- a fuckin faggot, if u lived in toronto, i would beat your ass
and the rest of u ignorant, racist, uninformed, fucking idiots, your time will come
Youmal qiyamah, the kufars will meet their maker
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and technique---a brainwashed afghan, you are a poor represenative for your religion and country
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Actually I kinda do consider myself muslim, b/c of my dad.......but I aint no strong follower......
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well from what i have read i consider Trauma and Loc the most intelligent and the ones with the most info. then of course Jake has got good points too
so if you listen to Traumas and Locs info you got the right info
and Jake also has got good points too
this is my opinion
and Iraq cant do shit. you can consider them dead. and pakistan is cooaperating and Afghanistan cant do shit. so there is noone to really have a battle with except terroists. which is the hardest enemy. cause their spread and all over and you cant tell shit
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Techniec does make some very interesting points in that last post. if u see past his subjectiveness, there is some real shit in there.
and im glad i have earned respect from people of both sides of this argument, its very hard to stay objective but im just trying to have respect for all innocent people everywhere.
peace!
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i just find it ironic that Techniec is using AOL.
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LOL
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and technique---a brainwashed afghan, you are a poor represenative for your religion and country
Have you ever thought you could be a brainwashed American?
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no, i'll admit when we fuck up i'm not going to go around spewing making america to be the the perfect nation
when we contained all japanese americans that was WRONG
hiroshema was WRONG
many things that the american government has done is WRONG....but what country hasn't done WRONG things....NONE...but i know when we mess up and might or are in the Wrong....but this current situation...we are not in the wrong...in ANY way
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Y DID U DELETE MY POST?
peace
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what post?
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I DID A QUOTE OF JOACHIM AGREEING, THEN U POSTED BUT MY POST WASNT IN BETWEEN
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Rud had one here just now.. didnt say much.. ermm
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^^^ LOL, Overseer??
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i just got done loading the main page after i just got done posting i'd still be waiting for your post to delete if i did it
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SO U DELETED IT SEER?!
IM NOT ARSED JUST WANNA KNOW WHO/WHY! ;D
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^^^ LOL, Overseer??
wasnt me.. was just sayin i saw it ;)
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WONDER WHERE IT WENT THEN!
???
peace
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i might of possibly deleted it becuase i'm watching the tv and typing and clicking without looking at the computer screen right now but doubt it cuz my computer takes forever to load shit when i moderate shit...like this
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OK, IF IT WAS A MISTAKE THATS COO!
peace
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yeah i just want to let y'all know
1-i'm not brainwashed
2- and if i accidently deleted your post it was accident
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wasnt me.. was just sayin i saw it ;)
oh ok. i misunderstood. it sounded funny though, and it kinda sounded like you deleted it sooo.
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1-i'm not brainwashed
How do you know? America is famous for its excessive propaganda, how can you say you be sur your not brainwashed bro?
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why are you so persistant that i am? don't worry about me dogg, i might be patriotic but i'm not brainwashed i'm telling stuff from MY point of view not Ted Copples or Tom Brokaws...and you don't even live in the US the news is just reporting FACTS right now ...you don't live here and are making asumptions...that's like me saying all your news papers are corrupt becuase of all the flase and phony things that are said out there...which i know that not all news out there is like that....what i'm talking about , technique is talking about stuff he was trained to say for YEARS i'm just talking about stuff that i feel in my HEART that needs to be said...
whatever you know if this was happening in your country you'd feel the same, i'm just dropping this argument with you becuase your making me sick how your labling me with a flase title
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whatever you know if this was happening in your country you'd feel the same, i'm just dropping this argument with you becuase your making me sick how your labling me with a flase title
Im not labeling you anything, im asking you if your brainwashed, you called Techniec brainwashed because 'his point of view' was different from yours, which my friend makes me sick.
This isnt an argument imo, it was a simple question...
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alot of people have a different opinion on this than just technique....
i just find it funny how he's saying the EXACT same thing that all those other poeople in Afganistan (who are trained to hate the US like this).....that my friend is my reason for me calling him brainwashed
and to answer your "question" ---yet again no i'm not brainwashed...i'm talking from my OWN mind not Tom Brokaws or Collen Powell's or General Swartzkov....
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Thanks bro, thats all i wanted, a straight answer, i just wondered your reasoning behind calling him brainwashed, now i know...
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i wouldnt say Tech is brainwashed at all. like i said earlier if you read his posts there are some real FACTS in there too, not just 'my country's better than your country' opinions. give him a break.
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yeah the there is fact in what he says ....but some are greatly exadurated or intanjible
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First off, I Don't Think America Is Perferct, Far FromIt,But It Does The Best It Can. You Say America Sticks It's Nose in, But You Live In A Poor Ass Country With No Power, So You Have No Idea What It's Like. That's Like Criticising The President, You Don't Know What He's Faced With Each Day.
I Apologize For The "I'ts Just A Rock" Statement, But In Reality, IT IS. Think About It, Does Jesus, Or Muhammad, Give A FUCK Who Owns It? No. What Would They Think About People Laying Down Their Life For A Rock? They'd Think It's Missplaced, And Unnecessary. If The Rock Is A Problem, Let It Go.
As A Christian, The Dome Of The Rock Is Important To me Too! Perhaps (Definately, Actually) Not As Much As You, But Abraham Was To Sacrifice Issac There In My Religion; The Ark of The Covenant Was Hid There For Centuries, Etc. I'm Not Uneducated About This! My Point Is, The Rock Is In Israel, i'm FINE WITH THAT. I Don't Feel The Need To Go Own The Fucking Rock. If It Was A Muslim Mosque On The Rock, (Which It Actually Is, Although It's Defaced), I Wouldn't Mind. Damn, Yall Speak On This Shit, You Oughta Live Here For A While And See How Shit Works. Here, If You're Muslim, That's GREAT, Nobody Gives A Fu*k What Relgion You Are. Why Are yall Killin ' Each Other Over There For This? It's Stupid, It's Ignorant, It's Needless.
I Hope If The Taliban Is Destroyed (Which It Is In Danger Of), That Afgans Will Be Free, And Hopefully, Israel Will Leave Them The Hell Alone.
The U.S. Backed Muslims In Somalis, Kosovo, Kuwait. The Last 3 Times We Went To War. HOW Can You Say We Have An Agenda Against Muslims? Damn.
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trauma is on point, and these are the muslims that give a bad name to us real muslims. why do yall have to do this?
and i really hope we destroy the Taliban, their ignorant dicks. and i hope we kill that bitch sadaam too. these are bad examples these are bitches who give a bad name. how could any terrorist cal themself a muslim. anyways im off this now cause ive been saying it so much
now trauma is right the US has helped muslims. and like he said the whole fight over a rock is just wrong.
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Is it just me, or does everybody try to suck Trauma's dick because he ran the West Coast Killaz board?
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LOL
Stick To The Subject. I Don't Need People To Agree With My View.
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Is it just me, or does everybody try to suck Trauma's dick because he ran the West Coast Killaz board?
No, its just the dude knows what he is talking about.
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Is it just me, or does everybody try to suck Trauma's dick because he ran the West Coast Killaz board?
jelous?
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lol
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Is it just me, or does everybody try to suck Trauma's dick because he ran the West Coast Killaz board?
i just agree with his shit, and hes on point. thats all
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Did u just attack trauma coz u were losing, and it was a good way to divert the attention... dont hate.. i'm just speculating :P
anyways.. back to the situation.. this is a listen to Overseer moment
its all fucked.
things are only going to be worse from now on, but at least lines will have been drawn and we know who is where.
The middle east has and always will be a hot-bed for violence and cross religion fighting.
this is why i personally don't believe in anything
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by wednesday/thursday the Afghans will have said a big fuck u to the US, and refused to hand Bin Laden over prompting attacks from US/NATO forces.
more attempted (and possibly succesful) embassy attacks etc across the world.
Full on fuckin nightmare by this time next week.
mostly for the afghans... coz i think americas pulling out the stops on this.. and they have NATO with them in full support too.
Thank god i live in a peaceful out of the way place, with the just a nuclear power station (20 miles away) being the closest viable target... they probably wouldnt hit that.
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Overseer's Version Of The Future Sounds Correct,To Me. I Agree.
One Of Our Military Chiefs Today, Unfortunately Said That They Hadn't Ruled Out Using Nuclear Weapons When Asked About It. However, Powell 2 Days Ago Said That "He Didn't No Where People Got That, Nuclear Weapons Had Never Been Discussed".
Man, I DO NOT Support The Nukes Being Used, TOTALLY Unnecessary. I Think All Nukes Should Be Destroyed.
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Overseer your in the same shoes as Trauma. It's not an attack on either of you two. But your lying to yourselves if you don't believe that some members are ass kissers. They want to fit in with everybody here at the board, and they think agreeing with ya'll is a great way to do it.
...I was finished discussing this subject, until I get more honest, unbiased, information on what is going on in the middle east. There's two sides to every story, sometimes 3-4-5, etc. I've said what I wanted to say.
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Overseer your in the same shoes as Trauma. It's not an attack on either of you two. But your lying to yourselves if you don't believe that some members are ass kissers. They want to fit in with everybody here at the board, and they think agreeing with ya'll is a great way to do it.
thats bullshit, then what am i supposed to say when i agree with someone. when i feel like someone is speakin the truth, i gotta say i agree with em.
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Everybody, Don't Kiss My Ass, Um., O.k.? That Way,When I Prove Somebody's Point Totally Invalid,They Won't Resort To THE EASY WAY OUT Instead Of Explaining To Me And Everyone Else Why I'm Wrong, And They're Right.
Happens All The Time. Peeps Take The Easy Way Out, Because They're Either Wrong, Or Can't Adequately Explain Their Point.
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I really find it funny how we are fighting a war we have no chance in winning.
If we are declaring war against terrorism as a whole then Bush is being unrealistic.
I just hope we bomb Afganastan once and we become satisfied.
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first of all, jake, u said that i am a bad representative of my people, if i was bad rep for my people i would be sayin "thank god those innocents died, i love bin laden , i wanna suck his dick"
notice im not sayin that, ????
and another thing, yall sayin im brainwashed
im gonna make yall feel stupid
i dont live in afghanistan or the middle east
im a 17year old kid from toronto, ive lived here for years, in canada, so how the fuck are u gonna say im brain washed, if i lived in afghanistan and was forced to adopt the taliban doctrine from my childhood then u could say im brainwashed
but i live in canada, the info that i get is not islamic propaganda, see past my difference of opinions, and understand i spit facts,
cnn says taliban are not backing down, looks like we're headed towards a war
and trauma, i acknowledge your apology. nuthin personal dogg but that was a bad thing to say, u know it too, thats like me sayin the western wall in jerusalem is a pile of rubble.
i never made a racist, comment or an ignorant one, i am just saying my side of the matter, and for that i am being vilified and called brainwashed, when in reality i spit facts, yall spit opinions
props to the real
peace
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i recall you saying you WERE from Afghanistan in an earlier post and saying somthing to the fact that you hope that or that you support the fact the taliban won't hand over Bin Laden
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and don't say i'm making this up it was all in the firtst big "the us is not innocent post" you made...which some one deleted >:( or i can't find i specifically remember you saying something to the effect that you were/are/or have family in afhganistan
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yo....i got some info...dat yall probly already heared...
i wanna comment it.....
tha u.s doesnt want Israel to partisipate in tha unti terorism coalition....(we be tha frontline of it fo years)
shit dis is fucked up....i don see tha states learnin what waz happenin to us ever since we started our
xzistence....
YO....TO ALL THA ISRAEL CRITISIZERS FOR BOMBIN AND SHOOTIN ON CITIES AFTER TERRORISTIC ACTIVITY OCCURES......
JUS WAIT AND SEE WHAT THA STATES R GOIN TO DO TO AFGAN.....
lol....AND DAT WILL BE RIGHT IMO...IM 100% AGAINST IGNORIN COUNTRIES DAT LEGITAMISE OR
HELP TERRORISTS.....SUCH AS AFGAN OR AS THA PALESTINIAN AUTONOMY...
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Afganistan's Government Is Protecting Him, And Allowing Him Places To train Terrorists, Therefore, They Are A Target. The GOVERNMENT, Not The Citizens.
Second, No, That Wouldn't Be The Same As Saying The Wailing Wall Is A Pile Of Rubbish. It'd Be The Same As Saying The Wailing Wall Is A Wall. It Is. The Rock is A Rock Is What I Said, Not It Was A Piece Of Trash.
It IS An Unrealistic Goal; BUT, What Do You Suppose We Do? Just Ignore Terrorism? Hell No. For Every Terrorist We Kill, THat's 1 Less We Have To Worry About. We've Been Putting Up With This Sh*t For Years, So, It's Time We Took A Few Out.
The Taliban Is IGNORANT If They're Going To Continue To Hide This Fu*ker, They're Going To Cause Innocents To Be Killed, And Then Blame Us. Fu*k That. PLUS, This Guy's Already Been Wanted For Years, And They Haven't Helped Us, So Even Forgetting About The Current Situation, They Owe Us Him For The African Bombings. The U.S. has Had A 5 Million Dollar Price Tag On His Head For Years. I Just Hope Whenever They Take Him Into Custody (If They Do), That A Soldier Or Somebody Slugs Him In The Mouth, And Knocks His Ass Out, For That Little 4 Year old Girl that Hit The Tower.
And They're Saying A Fucking CHILD KILLER Is A GUEST Of Their Country? You Said That Too, Technique, Fuck You Man, You'll Burn With That Bastard For That.
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the way i see it is: after this situation is over and done with (could be years from now, who knows), the US and all the allies should just stay the fuck out of everyones business.
i mean damn, if theyre trying to help or if they have particular interests in certain conflicts, look where it gets them? whenever you take sides in battles the other side is gonna get pissed. and when that builds up it turns into terrorism or other anti-US/allies activity.
i know the worlds so advanced now, and we should all help each other out, but fuck it. it doesnt work. if people want to fight, let them fight. only contact we should have with other nations is for trade purposes.
radical opinion, whut y'all think?
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I See Your Point, But The Problem Is That The U.S. Is Always Going To Try And Be Optomistic. So, They're Always Going To Believe That They Can Help A Situation.. So They're Alway sGonna Get Involved.
I See What You're Saying Thogh, But I Doubt It'll Ever Happen. Especially In Times Of War,... I Mean, If Somebody Attacked England, You KNOW We'd Be Right There. If We Didn't Do the Same for Israel, They'd Be All Like "What's Up?" Ya Know? LOL. That's Just How It Is.
You Know How Hard It Is To Stay Out Of A Fight Your Friends Are Having, ESPECIALLY When You Don't Like One Friend (Palestine).
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jake, i said i was from afghanistan, that is true, i was born there, came to canada when i was 5, and ive been back there twice, and ALL my famly is there, so what point are u tryin to make, bro?
and trauma, sayin whenever america gets involved overseas its to help the people/??? ha ha stupid
and bin laden helped our country durin the sovie occupation, not to say that i support what e does entirely, but i can understand why he gets the respect of our govt, cuz of his contributions, and look at fuckin ariel sharon, hes a war criminal, so where is he?/ the hague? nope, hes the fucin prime minister of israel
and i geezy, stop coming on here talkin your pro- isaeli shit unless u gonna make a sensible post, all i hear is, "look what we go thru bla bla bla" israel could make peace in a second, but they want all of palestine, go bac to your illegal settlements
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jake, i said i was from afghanistan, that is true, i was born there, came to canada when i was 5, and ive been back there twice, and ALL my famly is there, so what point are u tryin to make, bro?
it proves that you are a brainwashed Afghan
and Mr. Loc i understand what you're saying, if it was up to me and i was Presedent Big Jake i would'nt get in between ANY conflicts between the middle east
BUUUUUUUT we'd get just as scrutenized if we didn't help as opposed to helping...so what are we to do ya know what i'm saying , the world looks up to the US since we're so big , rich, and powerful....it'd work either way someone would form a terrorist group to get us to do somthing you know what i'm saying
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i still dont think that means im brainwashed,
ive been to afghanistn when i was in grade 6 and 8, and i went for the summer, how does that make me brainwashed, i was raised in canada, so i didnt have the taliban/islamic fundementalis doctrine engraved into me since i was a kid
OK U KNOW WHAT, JAKE, LETS JUST AGREE TO DISAGREE, WE BOTH ARE FROM OPPOSITE SIDES OF TH FENCE, AND WILL CONTINUE ARGUING FOR EVER, WE BOTH BELIEVE IN OUR CAUSES PASSIONATELY, (besides, i really dont like how shit got real personal between me and people i used to respect), SO LETS JUST END IT
PEACE
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It was a terrible thing that happened, without a doubt BUT
some of you US citizens are really way out there when yall say that USA helps countries resolve their conflicts.
lets just look at Iraq-Kuwait thang, the only reason USA "helped" Kuwait was cause it had interests in Kuwaits Oil and it had interests in protecting Israel.
Iraq attacked Israel after invading Kuwait, and USA have always been "protecting" Israel.
Do yall really think that muslim nations in middle east cant crushu Israel on the minute, it would be 100-1 if yall know what I mean.
Israel terrorises Lebanon ( with the support of USA , USA supplies Israel with weapons and money ) , without a reason. there fight is against Palestine, why are they in Lebanon ?
USA and GB are still bombing Iraq, more then 10 years after the war.
there are innocent people dying in Iraq everytime USA bombs, what do you guys think about that ?are those Iraqi people less worth then the americans ? why is there never ever any news on that on CNN ? why isnt that terrorism ? what are they trying to achieve with bombing innocent people ?
youi americans need to calm down with your patriosm, every human being is equal, whether he is american or swedish or whatever.
the sanctions agaisnt Iraq is an act of evil by the western world, because of those sanctions 10 000 people dies every month in Iraq.
this is not the time to hate, this the time to think with reason, violence will lead to more violence.
Usa needs to look at their own actions first, then retaliate or whatever.
and oh yeah on the brainwashed part, we all are brainwashed, puttin people down cause they dont agree with you and callin them brainwashed destroys the sole purpose of discussing, attack the posters views not the motherfuckin poster, know what I am sayin.
peace
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Yeah, You're Right, We Suck, I Think We Should Just Let The Terrorists Bomb The Shit out Of Us And Not Do Anythign About It.
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USA and GB are still bombing Iraq, more then 10 years after the war.
there are innocent people dying in Iraq everytime USA bombs, what do you guys think about that ?are those Iraqi people less worth then the americans ? why is there never ever any news on that on CNN ? why isnt that terrorism ? what are they trying to achieve with bombing innocent people ?
Man thats real...
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USA and GB are still bombing Iraq, more then 10 years after the war.
there are innocent people dying in Iraq everytime USA bombs, what do you guys think about that ?are those Iraqi people less worth then the americans ? why is there never ever any news on that on CNN ? why isnt that terrorism ? what are they trying to achieve with bombing innocent people ?
actaully it's shown on CNN, MSNBC, Fox news, 20/20, and about a million other news publications and every time we bomb them there is almost ALWAYS a protest out here in the United States so don't say that
plus we give saddamm a warning when we do this, we tell him if you don't stop sneaking behind our backs and messing with these weapons we can't trust you with we will punish you....but Sadamm being the dumb fat fuck he is continues to to do it and pays for it...now i'm not saying killing the innocent is justifyable becuase it's NOT at ALL and that's not our aim to kill the innocent when we bomb it's a military thing...and theres ALWAYS a warning to the leader of that country
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In Afganastan women are treated like they are worth less than dogs...Women can't show their face in public, they have to cover there whole body, and put a sheet on their head like a ghost...Women can't go swiming, only guys, and when guys go swiming, their swimming shorts have to be covering the knees...If you wear a siming short even a millimeter above your knee you get beaten REAL badly...I saw it happen on the news...Afaganastan is a horrible country, The End.
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I Saw A News Report, They Said That Women Have To Walk 15 Steps Behind Their Husbands. (This Is In Iraq). After The Gulf War, Women Were Walking 15 Steps In FRONT Of Their Husbands. They Asked The Husbands If There Was 1 Single Cause For This, And The Husbands Said, "Yeah".... "Landmines".
LOL
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I dunno if yall saw this on cnn, but they showed a woman in Afghanastan dat waz shot in tha head in tha middle of a soccer field 4 commitin adultary(Fuckin some dude dat waznt her husband)........
Anywayz I agree w/Mr. G thang up there, America alwayz be doin shit 4 their iwn good.......They would neva have helped Israel or Kuwait out if it waznt 2 their own advantage.......And dont give me this shit bout they're world leaders and they just had 2......They stick their nose in 4 tha pleasure of tha smell (if u know wat I mean)..........
But I dont agree wit his patriotic remark, American should get patriotic and wipe out Terrorism 4 sho, If dat means blowin up Afghanastan, then so be it........By tha way when they say War on Terrorism, it's really gotta include ALL terrorists, not just tha middle eastern ones...........Theres millions of terrorists in their own backyard like tha white power fools like Timmy macvay etc......Everybody is EVERYBODY......
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Man, What The Fuck, We Get Bombed, And it Turns Into Shit On USA Day. First, We Do Things For Our Own Good. Plus, We Deserved To Be Bombed. We Stick Our Nose In Where It Doesn't Belong. We Hate Muslims. Now, We're Being Accused Of Being Partial, And Only Hating Middle Eastern Terrorists, That's What You Were Hinting At, Right?
Why Don't All Yall Back The Fu*k Up, And Have A Little Compassion.
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Yo Bacc up, I got ALOT of compassion & I aint neva said USA deserves 2 get bombed, Fuck dat, hella nah........I waz just confirming wat tha title of this thread is, USA is not TOTALLY innocent in this case, dats all..........
And I waznt hintin nothin, at least I waznt tryin 2......Im just sayin lets wipe every terrorist there is, Isnt dat wat tha war is called?........Heres wat I wanna know, Do u think USA will declare a win after USA finishes whipin some Bin Ladin and mid east terrorist ass?........I think they will.........
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mr g thang.......you said israel is terrorisin Lebanon....AND SOME PIPZ EVEN AGREED....GOD....SOME PIPZ IZ MISSINFORMED HARD TIME.....
DO YOU KNOW?...HOW MANY BOARDER PROTECTIN SOLDIERS WE LOST IN OUR NORTH BORDER?...WE HAD YEARS DAT THA MEDIA MADE SPESIAL COMMITIES TO COUNT THEM.....
I DON KNOW WHERE YOU PPL GET THAT BULL FROM.....LEBANON IS FULLO TERRORISTS....THA HIZB ALAH.....HEARED BOUT IT...????.....WIT THAT ASSHOLE NASRALA AS ITS HEAD....DAT KIDNAPED
LARGE NUMBAZ OF OUR SOLDIERS.....THA LAST TIME WAZ A NUMBA OF MONTHS AGO....REMEBER...???..WIT THAT WHOLE U.N BITCHIN SHIT...AND NOT WANTIN TO GIVE ISRAEL THOSE CLEAR KIDNAPIN TAPES TO SEE FOR THA FAMALIES IF THEIR CHILDREN R STILL ALIVE....
....BOMBIN LEBANON....OUT PLAINS WENT TO BOMBN A COUPLA HIZBALA ARMY STATIONS.... NOT FAR FROM THA BORDER...AND SOME SADALITE DISH ....
NOT ENOUGH IF YOU AKS ME.....
THA GOVERMENT IN LEBANON IS MANIPULISED BY SIRIA.....SO THEY CANT EVEN TRY AND GET RID OF TERRORISTS THAT SIRIA SUPPORTS THAT MUCH...NOT THAT YOU CAN HEAR ENOUGH VOICES AGAINST IT IN LEBANON.....
2 YEARS AGO IF IM NOT MISTAKEN....WE GOT OUTA LEBANON (GAVE THEM THA PIECE THEY WANTED SO MUCH...JUST TO TRY AND GET A PEACE PROSSES)...BUT DID THAT HELP....YEA FOR THA LEBANONIS ABILLITY TO GET CLOSER TO THA ISRAELI BORDER AND KIDNAP SOLDIERS....YOU PPL NEED MO INFO......
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YO...TECHNEIC......YOU SHOULD CUT YO POLITICLY CORECCT TERRORISM LEGITEMISIN.........
NOW...BOUT SHARON
HE HAD A TRAIL IN ISRAEL BACK THAN (ALL THOSE BITCHES DAT WANTED RENEW SHIT JUS" WANTED TO GET HIM OFF HIZ PRIME MINISTER STATUS...PLESTINIAN AOUTONOMY AND AFILIATES TRICK)...AFTER SABRA AND SHATILA.....AND SINCE THAN IT IS FORBIDDED FOR HIM TO BE A NATIONAL SECURITY MINISTER.....BUT YOU DON EVEN KNOW THA SITUATION.....DO YOU KNOW WHAT WAZ THA TRAIL FOR???.....IT HAPPEND IN LEBANON IN SABRA AND SHATILA .....
THA ARMY GOT THERE AND TOOK OVER....CAUZE THERE WAZ LOTA TERRORISTS COMIN OUTA THERE....SO THE ARMY BASICLY SILED THEM UP.....
BUT THA KILLINGS WHERE MADE BY THA FALANGIS PIPZ (CHRISTIAN ARABS....DAT HATE MUSLIM ARABS).....SHARON WAZ BLAMED FOR IGNORIN THEM FALANGIS.....
AS IF WE SHOULD BE RESPONSABLE FOR SOME VILLAGES WE TOOK OVER BECAUZE OF TERRORISTIC ACTIVITY DURIN WAR TIME...WE AIN THEIR GOVERMENT...AIN THEIR HEADS....WTF..?...
IT WAZ JUS A POLITICAL TRAIL...
DON TALK IF YOU DON KNOW THA SITUATION...
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peeps i just wanna state that y the fuck r they targeting afganistan i mean usama bin lden when there's no proof that he has somthing to done those terrorist atracks. they should atleast have any evidance to proove usama bin laden guilty. they are only blaming on him is because they aint got no1 else that they can put the blame on which is not fair. if the terrorist attacks happened to afganistan and their prime suspect was in u.s.a I'm sure that they wudn't hand him over without any proof, the same shit is going on there.
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1. 3 Weeks Ago Bin Laden Said He Would Attack The U.S., Soon, On A Huge Scale, Like Nothing Ever Seen Before. Well, he Talked The Talk, Now He's Gotta Walk The Walk, Cuz We're About To Bomb The Shit Outta Him. Retaliation Is Justified, JUST On This Ground! If you Tell Me You're Gonna Attack Me, I'm Gonna Attack You, Simple As That, I Ain't Goin' Out Like A Bitch.
2. Many Of The Hijackers Have Trails Leading To Bin Ladin, Including Physical Evidence Found In A Hijacker's Car.
3. The Money Is Currently Being Traced, And It Appears It's Leading Back To Bin Ladin.
4. Al Quieda Or Whatever, Had A Huge Summit In Jerusalem A Few Months Back, To Discuss Terrorism.. And Basically
5. THEY'RE TERRORISTS! WHO GIVES A FUCK IF HE DID THIS ONE OR NOT, HES STILL A TERRORIST. Terrorism Is NEVER Good, So Fuck It, We're Takin' Him Out. It'll be YOUR City Next If We Don't.
That's Like Your Sister Being Murdered, And The Guy Next Door Admits That He Murdered Someone, But It Wasn't Your Sister. Do You Turn Him In? HELL YEAH You Turn Him In, Because He's Still A Murderer. You Don't Protect His Ass.
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It'll be YOUR City Next If We Don't.
yup, it could be anywhere, , we gotta takem out, for the safety of everyone
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hey wots going on in america i heard that a singh got shot because some ignorant muthafucka dumb bitch thought that he was usama bin laden. lol how can the same person be at 2 different places dat dude must be disabled and also i've been hearing about some americans goining after mosques and muslims. come on y'all thats not fair they gotta stop this discrimination otherwise ppl from other countries such as here england might start going afta muslims as well
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Those Are Very Isolated Incidents, Hasn't Happened Much, tHe Media's Just Jumpin' On It... There Are Stupid People In America Too, Yes. Honestly Though, I Don't Think Crimes Went Up Too Much, People Attack Mosques Anyways Sometimes. If Somebody's Messed up, This Is Just An Excuse For Them To Justify Their Asshole-ness, LOL.
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yeah mosques, Churches, and synagougs are ALWAYS being attacked ...synagougs are the most targeted religious buildings in america if this was a jewish dude who did it they media would make Synagoug bashing an epidemic....the muslum "discrimination" isn't elevated it's just more magnified by the media now
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hey president bush used the word crusade against terrorism which is causing a lot of tension in the middle east because for yall that dnt kno they battles were fought against muslims and christians where thousands of muslims were killed. so i don't think that president shud've used dat word as many ppl take it as america fighting against muslims.
peace
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Yo!
Yeah, I Definately Agree, He Shouldn't Have used That Word, But He Didn't Realize It, He Honestly, And I Believe Him, Didn't Mean It That Way, He Didn't Know That Was A Bad Word. I Say I'm On A Crusade All The Time, And I Don't Mean It That Way... It Just Has A Different Meaning Over Here, Then It Does Over There.
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Heres a news I just got.........
Hella Afghans have escaped from tha Pakistan border although it's closed (No good security), and they were all young adults dat left their family behind w/no money or food.......
Tha UN helped these people by goin 2 pakistan and feeding them.......
Yesterday tha fuckin Taliban attacked tha UN workers and now they dont let them feed tha afghans........They claim they shouldnt be eating foreign food........
FUCK THA TALIBAN.......They're tha second wave of Nazis.......They all gotta rot in hell........If US doesnt kill their people, they'll do it themselves anywayz........Fuck em........
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that's FUCKED UP!
the taliban takes the islamic religion TOOO seriously they probably won't let them eat the food from the UN becuase it's "christian food"...that's gay
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I saw this nasty video on how they punish some men for serious crimes. Its some of the nastiest shit I've ever seen. As soon as they pulled out......I ain't gonna give away all the details. I'll find the link for the video and show y'all.
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Aiight here is the link
Taliban Justice (http://evdentlyunproven.homestead.com/files/Bin-Ladin_Justice.mpg)
NASTY!!!
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yeah Afghanistan is so messed up, i feel so sorry for the poor lil kids and the innocent people gettin tortured by the fuckin fags in the taliban.
and some idiot here beat up a indian cause he thought he was affiliated, what fuckin fags ::) (ingnorant mufuckas)