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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: Hack Wilson - real on July 09, 2014, 04:46:06 PM
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Chris Sheridan @sheridanhoops · 20m
LeBron James is returning to the Cleveland Cavaliers, a source tells http://sheridanhoops.com . @KingJames #LeBronToClev http://www.sheridanhoops.com/2014/07/09/sheridans-top-25-free-agents-july-9-edition/ …
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i think this will be enough of a new big 3 to top the Spurs/Clippers next year
not sure about Lebron-Irving-Wiggins-Verajao though
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lol@the source.....as of right now, theres no decision yet.
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Jumping on the Cavs bandwagon already, Hack?
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Jumping on the Cavs bandwagon already, Hack?
When (and where) did I say that, Teddy?
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Jumping on the Cavs bandwagon already, Hack?
When (and where) did I say that, Teddy?
cuz u started an official cavs threads and will most likely talk to yourself throughout this thread like youve been doin with the miami thread (if lebron signs)
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Jumping on the Cavs bandwagon already, Hack?
When (and where) did I say that, Teddy?
cuz u started an official cavs threads and will most likely talk to yourself throughout this thread like youve been doin with the miami thread (if lebron signs)
i do these to annoy you and i see it's worked :D
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Me and LeBron are still free agents.
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The Summer of attention whoring: Pt II.
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The Summer of attention whoring: Pt II.
me or Lebron/Melo? :D
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funny how Chris Sheridan is not a good source according to NIK yet I hear him on ESPN and Fox Sports radio and dude's been in the game 25 years.
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So it's offical?
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So it's offical?
yep
NIK looks stupid right here doesn't he?
Sheridan was right.
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lol@the source.....as of right now, theres no decision yet.
lol @ your doubting
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is Cleveland gonna go for Kevin Love now? or wait?
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It seems Lebron really wants them to keep Irving (obviously) and Tristan Thompson.
I'm guessing Wiggins + ??? for Kevin Love
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10/15 posts in this thread are by hack......it has begun
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Here in Minnesota, it's all Kevin Love on the radio. The hold up is that Cleveland wants to give up Bennett for Love and the 'Wolves will only take Wiggins. There will be draft picks and Waiter, but Cleveland doesn't want to give up Wiggins and the 'Wolves only want Wiggins. Also, with Cleveland chasing, the 'Wolves are still trying to get Klay Thompson from Golden State plus a ton of picks.
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Here in Minnesota, it's all Kevin Love on the radio. The hold up is that Cleveland wants to give up Bennett for Love and the 'Wolves will only take Wiggins. There will be draft picks and Waiter, but Cleveland doesn't want to give up Wiggins and the 'Wolves only want Wiggins. Also, with Cleveland chasing, the 'Wolves are still trying to get Klay Thompson from Golden State plus a ton of picks.
man i'd fucking trade Bennet AND Wiggins for kevin love, these dudes is smokin some good shit if they prefer Bron/Wiggins to Bron/Love
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10/15 posts in this thread are by hack......it has begun
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Well the 'Wolves want Wiggins/Waiter+picks. The Cavs are trying to keep it at Bennett/Waiter+picks. But the 'Wolves by all reports here, will sit on Love until Wiggins is on the table, or trade to Golden State. The sad part, Flip was going to trade Love to Cleveland for Wiggins straight before the draft but Love said no, as Cleveland thought having Love would secure LeBron signing. Now because Love said no, Cleveland wants to keep Wiggins and MN wants more than the first overall pick. So Love to Cleveland is not going to happen soon.
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BREAKING NEWS:
Cavs aquire 2nd round pick from Pelicans lol
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Now I'm going to start seeing "Cavs" fans again in the Bay.
SMH...
When I first moved out West there were crazy Cavs Fans at the Kings & Warriors games. These last few years there were a very limited amount of real Cavs fan at the games.
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Now I'm going to start seeing "Cavs" fans again in the Bay.
SMH...
When I first moved out West there were crazy Cavs Fans at the Kings & Warriors games. These last few years there were a very limited amount of real Cavs fan at the games.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BsTXK9ICAAAESVL.jpg)
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Now I'm going to start seeing "Cavs" fans again in the Bay.
SMH...
When I first moved out West there were crazy Cavs Fans at the Kings & Warriors games. These last few years there were a very limited amount of real Cavs fan at the games.
Yeah, I remember even the last year the Sonics were here a bunch of "Cavs" fans showing up cause of LeBron. Bandwagon fans are the worst in basketball just cause the game is so individually based.
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That's one thing I like about college sports. People like the team because of the team, in most cases, since it's not like players commonly change schools, and they only play for four years (at most) anyway.
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where all the miami fans at?
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where all the miami fans at?
there are no miami fans....they were just gay for lebron aka they dont root for teams, they root for men.
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That's one thing I like about college sports. People like the team because of the team, in most cases, since it's not like players commonly change schools, and they only play for four years (at most) anyway.
but then you have turn-around every 4 years when dude's graduate
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Lebron James signs 2 year deal
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where all the miami fans at?
(http://l2.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/N.mfAQSxvFQAgJPLBpMwhA--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTYzMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en/blogs/sptusnbaexperts/Neat.-Steve-Mitchell-USA-TODAY-Sports-Edited.jpg)
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where all the miami fans at?
(http://l2.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/N.mfAQSxvFQAgJPLBpMwhA--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTYzMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en/blogs/sptusnbaexperts/Neat.-Steve-Mitchell-USA-TODAY-Sports-Edited.jpg)
These hoes ain't loyal.
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That's one thing I like about college sports. People like the team because of the team, in most cases, since it's not like players commonly change schools, and they only play for four years (at most) anyway.
Agreed as far the fans, just the whole turnover aspect of them in general just makes the pro sports more appealing to me.
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That's one thing I like about college sports. People like the team because of the team, in most cases, since it's not like players commonly change schools, and they only play for four years (at most) anyway.
Agreed as far the fans, just the whole turnover aspect of them in general just makes the pro sports more appealing to me.
But it's about the team and the program. Not just people being band wagoners and pretending to like a team once someone plays there but then they switch up when that person goes somewhere else. You don't really see that in college. And a good program will continue to recruit promising talent to replace those who move on to pro level game.
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That's one thing I like about college sports. People like the team because of the team, in most cases, since it's not like players commonly change schools, and they only play for four years (at most) anyway.
Agreed as far the fans, just the whole turnover aspect of them in general just makes the pro sports more appealing to me.
But it's about the team and the program. Not just people being band wagoners and pretending to like a team once someone plays there but then they switch up when that person goes somewhere else. You don't really see that in college. And a good program will continue to recruit promising talent to replace those who move on to pro level game.
I don't disagree with that, I just like being able to follow players through the years. Bandwagon fans are annoying, but it doesn't take away form the fact that the pro game is just much more appealing to me in general.
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http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11219649/mike-miller-takes-less-joins-lebron-james-cleveland-cavaliers
mike miller signs up
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Wiggins is a goner, Love is gonna be on the Cavs soon.
I think Danny Ainge should offer the C's next 7 first round picks for Kevin Love.
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i'd pull the trigger
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i don't blame Cleveland for not wanting to let Kevin Love escape them (i.e. Cavs trading him to the Warriors or someone else) but damn it'd be amazing to see if they'd wait for Love to be a free agent and add him to the team WITH wiggins.
Wiggins is obviously a work in progress but will contribute to anyone as a rookie.
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Rumor has it Ray Allen is coming to the Cavs
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Winning the title with 4 own #1 picks is romantic as fuck, but Bennett and Wiggins are not ready to actually contribute to a championship and LeBron is turning 30 this winter. LeBron+Love+Irving > LeBron+Bosh+Wade by far.
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Winning the title with 4 own #1 picks is romantic as fuck, but Bennett and Wiggins are not ready to actually contribute to a championship and LeBron is turning 30 this winter. LeBron+Love+Irving > LeBron+Bosh+Wade by far.
now they have to wait a month to trade Wiggins
i honestly think they should wait until the deadline to do this trade because maybe Wiggins turns out to be so good they don't need to trade for Love and will just wait for him to be a free agent
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this gives the Celtics time to work on a trade for Love lol
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quote this post if you think the Cavs will be better than the Heat next year
reply if you disagree
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Cavs make the finals. If they trade for Love and get one more piece, they might even win.
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kevin love gonna be a cav
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The people with Timberwolves sources are not talking about if the trade happens, but trying to figure out of Wiggins wants to live in downtown, with the youngsters in uptown or by U of Minnesota campus in Dinky Town.
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The people with Timberwolves sources are not talking about if the trade happens, but trying to figure out of Wiggins wants to live in downtown, with the youngsters in uptown or by U of Minnesota campus in Dinky Town.
where is the best place to live in the twin city area?
i know the better hip hop comes from St. Paul (Eyedea)
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Cavs make the finals. If they trade for Love and get one more piece, they might even win.
they should win unless the Celtics scoop up Kevin Love instead
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Cavs make the finals. If they trade for Love and get one more piece, they might even win.
they should win unless the Celtics scoop up Kevin Love instead
If they trade for Kevin Love then whose gonna help him get there lol
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Cavs make the finals. If they trade for Love and get one more piece, they might even win.
they should win unless the Celtics scoop up Kevin Love instead
If they trade for Kevin Love then whose gonna help him get there lol
No one, it will just prevent the Cavs from winning the East.
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The people with Timberwolves sources are not talking about if the trade happens, but trying to figure out of Wiggins wants to live in downtown, with the youngsters in uptown or by U of Minnesota campus in Dinky Town.
where is the best place to live in the twin city area?
i know the better hip hop comes from St. Paul (Eyedea)
Downtown sucks. It's very off and on, some years they care about developing it and it's popping, other years it goes to the trash. Dinkytown is cool if you still want to live with college students and get drunk after college football games. Cops there are notorious for targeting black people. I'd go Uptown. It's were other college students and recent grads live. Very artsy though with a bad Hipster problem as of late. But it's right next to Lake Calhoun and the million dollar homes of all the politicians. Most athletes live in the Lake Minnetonka area, but a young 19 year old kid like Wiggins should live in town and enjoy the city. The suburbs are boring, that's why the Vikings had prostitutes on a boat.
As for St. Paul, Froggytown is cool, it's like the Uptown of St. Paul. I might actually suggest there, less hipsters, but less $1,000,000 homes too.
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Cavs make the finals. If they trade for Love and get one more piece, they might even win.
they should win unless the Celtics scoop up Kevin Love instead
If they trade for Kevin Love then whose gonna help him get there lol
Rondo power
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Anthony Bennett to Philly for Thadeus Young
interesting side trade
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Anthony Bennett to Philly for Thadeus Young
interesting side trade
That was the rumor I was talking about a few days ago. They don't want Bennett and they felt they were going to get much in return for Love. I am surprised the Sixers agreed.
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http://www.tmz.com/2014/08/13/reggie-miller-nba-players-weight-loss-carmelo-anthony-lebron-james/
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Funny, right after Biogenesis is done, everyone is losing weight.
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Funny, right after Biogenesis is done, everyone is losing weight.
lmao wrong sport my G.
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is Ray Allen a Cav yet??
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the Matrix is joining Cleveland
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NIK can't wait to start the rumors of KEvin Love going to LA in 2020
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K.Love to Phoenix FTW!!!!
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lakers suck :D
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Cleveland sucks... bandwagon hoppers
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Cleveland sucks... bandwagon hoppers
the browns and indians do suck
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Cleveland sucks... bandwagon hoppers
the browns and indians do suck
And the Cavs... don't forget the Cavs.
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i see the Cavs making it over .500 this year and to the playoffs
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i see the Cavs making it over .500 this year and to the playoffs
I'll believe it when I see it. Love and Irving don't play defense.
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i see the Cavs making it over .500 this year and to the playoffs
I'll believe it when I see it. Love and Irving don't play defense.
lmao
laker fans are funny
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i see the Cavs making it over .500 this year and to the playoffs
I'll believe it when I see it. Love and Irving don't play defense.
lmao
laker fans are funny
nigga probably truly thinks the lakers are going to make the playoffs and maybe win some games there
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Actually I do. Lakers have a better bench than the Cavs.
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Actually I do. Lakers have a better bench than the Cavs.
so you think the Lakers will be better than the Cavs based on this tough talk, am i right?
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Actually I do. Lakers have a better bench than the Cavs.
so you think the Lakers will be better than the Cavs based on this tough talk, am i right?
No, Cleveland is one knee injury away from another lottery pick. Irving and Love have never been to the playoffs. As for the Lakers, they have lots of above average talent, so even if Kobe is hurt, the rest of the team can pick it up. Not tough talk at all, the only reason Cleveland makes the playoffs is because they are in the East and they have LeBron, which LeBron can beat more eastern squads one on five.
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LMAO you are a bad troll, m frogg
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Not trolling, the bench players are either contributors to the Cavs bad 4 year run, or they are old. Just facts.
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i see the Cavs making it over .500 this year and to the playoffs
I'll believe it when I see it. Love and Irving don't play defense.
You're forgetting how much the East sucks dick. Even without the blockbuster moves the team would've had a chance to squeeze into the playoffs with all the young talent they had. You really think they might not after adding LeBron and swapping a rookie for Love? No chance in hell man, I don't understand your logic at all.
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Not trolling, the bench players are either contributors to the Cavs bad 4 year run, or they are old. Just facts.
and whos gonna even remember that shit when Lebron, Love and Irving are leading the Cavs to a 60 win season??
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Love and Irving are not proven winners and LeBron is one injury away from washed up. His weight is a sign that either he is off that biogenesis or he knows his body will start to break down soon.
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Love and Irving are not proven winners and LeBron is one injury away from washed up. His weight is a sign that either he is off that biogenesis or he knows his body will start to break down soon.
hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
keep 'em coming
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Love and Irving are not proven winners and LeBron is one injury away from washed up. His weight is a sign that either he is off that biogenesis or he knows his body will start to break down soon.
But like I said, this is the East. You don't have to be a proven winner to make the playoffs. And that team is loaded. I guess you could make a case for them not going deep into the playoffs but I'm gonna go ahead and say there's no way in hell they miss the playoffs.
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M Dogg also thinks Afro-Americans don't commit more crimes than white Americans relative to population percentage. He is crazy as fuck.
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M Dogg also thinks Afro-Americans don't commit more crimes than white Americans relative to population percentage. He is crazy as fuck.
lol
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M Dogg also thinks Afro-Americans don't commit more crimes than white Americans relative to population percentage. He is crazy as fuck.
lol
As I said, I have posted so much stuff here dealing with stats and crime I wouldn't even bother anymore. I did say in that post that crime was closer related to income rather than race. So poor black people and poor white people commit crime about the same, where as middle class blacks and middle class whites commit (or really don't commit) crimes at the same rate. Since whites are the majority, they commit crime at greater numbers, since blacks have a higher poverty percentage rate, they commit crimes at a higher rate overall. But study after study found that crime was more based off income and not on color of skin, and but bring a target is based off skin color.
With that said my fine trolls, how are you going to win a title with that bench?
Matthew Dellavedova
Mike Miller (34 years old)
James Jones
Tristan Thompson (wouldn't get in the games thanks to Love)
Brendan Haywood
I give the starting lineup props. But unless they can play 48 minutes a game don't expect a long playoff run.
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lmao M Frogg thinks someone from the west is gonna fuck with a team that has Lebron and Kevin Love on it
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The 3rd seed in the west could still win the east.
Look for OKC, the Clippers and the Spurs to all have better years than Cleveland.
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Actually I do. Lakers have a better bench than the Cavs.
Starters:
Irving >>>>>> Lin
Waiters <<<< Kobe
James >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Young
Love >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Randle
Varejao > Hill
Bench:
Lucas < Nash/Clarkson
Dellavedova < Henry
Marion/Miller >>>>>> Wes Johnson
Thompson <<<<< Davis/Boozer/Kelly
Haywood < Sacre
So, you're right, the bench for Cleveland has some big holes, but Thompson, Miller and Marion are solid pieces on that bench. The starting line up alone though is good enough to put them into the top half of the playoff brackets. If LeBron won 61 games with Mo Williams, Anthony Parker, JJ Hickson (or Jamison later in the season) and Shaq as his fellow starters, how could you even question that this team couldn't even get to .500? Are you crazy? Do you even watch basketball? I get that people hate LeBron. I get it. I think it's ridiculous, but I get it. But, all that hate for a man can't possibly leave you that blind, can it?
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Actually I do. Lakers have a better bench than the Cavs.
Starters:
Irving >>>>>> Lin
Waiters <<<< Kobe
James >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Young
Love >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Randle
Varejao > Hill
Bench:
Lucas < Nash/Clarkson
Dellavedova < Henry
Marion/Miller >>>>>> Wes Johnson
Thompson <<<<< Davis/Boozer/Kelly
Haywood < Sacre
So, you're right, the bench for Cleveland has some big holes, but Thompson, Miller and Marion are solid pieces on that bench. The starting line up alone though is good enough to put them into the top half of the playoff brackets. If LeBron won 61 games with Mo Williams, Anthony Parker, JJ Hickson (or Jamison later in the season) and Shaq as his fellow starters, how could you even question that this team couldn't even get to .500? Are you crazy? Do you even watch basketball? I get that people hate LeBron. I get it. I think it's ridiculous, but I get it. But, all that hate for a man can't possibly leave you that blind, can it?
LeBron's probably my least favorite player in the league but I agree with most of the points you made. Also, as far as their bench goes, isn't there still a chance that Allen's gonna follow LeBron to Cleveland?
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You can check with most Laker fans here, I have been the most pro-LeBron person here. But let's not get carried away. The Cavs are a young team with a lot of unproven starters, only LeBron and Varejo have been to the playoffs or played for a team with a winning record, and the bench had lots of holes. This team has a long way to before we start saying it's a championship team, let's see Love, Irving and Waiters in the playoffs first.
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The 3rd seed in the west could still win the east.
Look for OKC, the Clippers and the Spurs to all have better years than Cleveland.
not with the Cavs in the east
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The 3rd seed in the west could still win the east.
Look for OKC, the Clippers and the Spurs to all have better years than Cleveland.
not with the Cavs in the east
Really? Because the Cavs record was so good, or Miami with a better roster than the Spurs.
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next year is a new year
quit with the excuses sir
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next year is a new year
quit with the excuses sir
Which is why the Lakers make the playoffs. As for Cleveland, I need more evidence that bench holds and the Cavs are injury free. The Cavs are one knee injury away from us asking how a team can win the lotto 4 out of 5 times.
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the NBA playoffs???
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You can check with most Laker fans here, I have been the most pro-LeBron person here. But let's not get carried away. The Cavs are a young team with a lot of unproven starters, only LeBron and Varejo have been to the playoffs or played for a team with a winning record, and the bench had lots of holes. This team has a long way to before we start saying it's a championship team, let's see Love, Irving and Waiters in the playoffs first.
If we're talking about a team of Irving/Wiggins/Bennett/Waiters/Thompson, I understand your skepticism. If we're even talking Irving/Love/Waiters/Thompson. But, we're talking about LeBron/Irving/Love. LeBron has won 50 games with Drew Gooden and Eric Snow as his starters. This was before LeBron had even developed. How are you going to tell me that LeBron with Irving and Love might now even make the playoffs? Again, I ask, do you watch basketball? The East is going to have another down year. Stephenson is gone and PG is out in Indy, where does the intensity come from? The scoring? The defense? The pseudo leadership? Nobody knows what the Knicks will do. They won't be much worse, but will they be better? Eh. Brooklyn? Without Pierce. KG another year older. Joe Johnson still getting those checks. Lopez coming off an injury. Williams maybe in shape. New Coach. Probably will good, but championship caliber? Na. Miami replacing LeBron with Deng? That shaves off 10 games. Wade being a huge question mark with his health. He'll more than likely miss every 2nd night of a back to back and will sit intermittently throughout the season. Bosh will be your number 1 option. That's about a 45 win team. Who else is there? Washington is on the outside looking in this season. That leaves only Chicago. LeBron with Mo Williams and Delonte West by his side beat Chicago. LeBron with a deadly shooter like Love and a guard that actually make Rose work on Defense in Irving will have a great chance at beating Chicago this year. Can you really not see that?
Which is why the Lakers make the playoffs. As for Cleveland, I need more evidence that bench holds and the Cavs are injury free. The Cavs are one knee injury away from us asking how a team can win the lotto 4 out of 5 times.
Which is why the Cavs make the playoffs. As for the Lakers, I need more evidence that bench holds and the Lakers are injury free. The Lakers are one knee injury away from us asking how a team can be that bad 2 years in a row.
Injuries can happen. If that's how you're judging a team, then don't watch sports man. Injuries are always possible.
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lol @ m frogg
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lebron could be out there playing 1 on 5 and still make the east finals
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NIK is gonna be sad when the season starts and nobody cares about the Lakers even with Kobe
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I will say this, I am not doubting LeBron. LeBron is proven, but I am not going to call the Cavs the favorite to do shit until I see some proof Love and Irving can play basketball on a team with a winning record for the first time in either's career. And the Cavs had LeBron for 7 years and never won a title with him, what makes this year different? No knock on LeBron, but I don't have faith in the Cavs front office.
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mdoggy's right on this one.....cavs have a lot to prove before we favor them as champs (smfh@vegas). as of now, chicago is the favorites in the east, and washington is right up there, with Toronto creepin on a come up. brooklyn, charlotte, and new york could be sleepers as well.
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LMAO @ CHICAGO AND WASHINGTON BEING RIGHT UP THERE WITH CLEVELAND
oh man i can't wait for this NBA season to start....hopefully nobody in the NBA gets in trouble for beating their woman or kids to take away headlines like the faggots in the NFL are
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LOL. No Hornets? One of the best starting lineups in the East.
Hawks and Pistons will be better than Boston too.
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LOL. No Hornets? One of the best starting lineups in the East.
Hawks and Pistons will be better than Boston too.
i said off the top
okay take off the Knicks
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bron and love make their Cavs debut
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good for him
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The rotation is going to be strange as hell. I know Bron is going to want Mike Miller & Allen on the court, but then the defensive becomes INSANELY bad.
Does Dion or Tristian not play down the stretch for one of them? Gonna be interesting.
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i hope Tristan does cuz i drafted him
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i got Love in the other league, he better dominate dammit
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lebron with a huge triple double tonight killin it
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lol another game that went down to the wire vs an average team
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lol another game that went down to the wire vs an average team
(http://i.imgur.com/22IbyeT.gif)
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K-Love wants to leave already. These hoes ain't loyal.
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K-Love wants to leave already. These hoes ain't loyal.
typical BSPN non story
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K-Love wants to leave already. These hoes ain't loyal.
typical BSPN non story
Same people are claiming Kobe is getting traded. You'd like that.
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K-Love wants to leave already. These hoes ain't loyal.
typical BSPN non story
Same people are claiming Kobe is getting traded. You'd like that.
not really unless he goes to the Jazz or 76ers. I want to see him rot on horrible teams the rest of his career and LA seems like the perfect place for that.
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K-Love wants to leave already. These hoes ain't loyal.
typical BSPN non story
Same people are claiming Kobe is getting traded. You'd like that.
not really unless he goes to the Jazz or 76ers. I want to see him rot on horrible teams the rest of his career and LA seems like the perfect place for that.
Ha... LOL.. admit it, you love Kobe.
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K-Love wants to leave already. These hoes ain't loyal.
typical BSPN non story
Same people are claiming Kobe is getting traded. You'd like that.
not really unless he goes to the Jazz or 76ers. I want to see him rot on horrible teams the rest of his career and LA seems like the perfect place for that.
Ha... LOL.. admit it, you love Kobe.
i hope he blows his legs out trying to get my roto team many points this year. kobe sure would be happy in a Utah Jazz uniform, he can go after Karl Malone's wife, right?
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K-Love wants to leave already. These hoes ain't loyal.
typical BSPN non story
Same people are claiming Kobe is getting traded. You'd like that.
not really unless he goes to the Jazz or 76ers. I want to see him rot on horrible teams the rest of his career and LA seems like the perfect place for that.
Ha... LOL.. admit it, you love Kobe.
i hope he blows his legs out trying to get my roto team many points this year. kobe sure would be happy in a Utah Jazz uniform, he can go after Karl Malone's wife, right?
So you're saying you're a hater.
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K-Love wants to leave already. These hoes ain't loyal.
typical BSPN non story
Same people are claiming Kobe is getting traded. You'd like that.
not really unless he goes to the Jazz or 76ers. I want to see him rot on horrible teams the rest of his career and LA seems like the perfect place for that.
Ha... LOL.. admit it, you love Kobe.
i hope he blows his legs out trying to get my roto team many points this year. kobe sure would be happy in a Utah Jazz uniform, he can go after Karl Malone's wife, right?
So you're saying you're a hater.
what a revelation!
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K-Love wants to leave already. These hoes ain't loyal.
typical BSPN non story
Same people are claiming Kobe is getting traded. You'd like that.
not really unless he goes to the Jazz or 76ers. I want to see him rot on horrible teams the rest of his career and LA seems like the perfect place for that.
Ha... LOL.. admit it, you love Kobe.
i hope he blows his legs out trying to get my roto team many points this year. kobe sure would be happy in a Utah Jazz uniform, he can go after Karl Malone's wife, right?
So you're saying you're a hater.
what a revelation!
Just want to get it out there for the record.
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lol
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funny how James's team can beat the Pelicans and NIK says they barely win
then the Pelicans beat the Lakers ass and Elior says nada
Xzibit face
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no way!
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no way!
Kobe was tryna shoot under 30% this game but failed
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gosh darn Cavs coming back from 19 last night grrr
Rondo was absolutely incredible though. 16 assists is crazy, somewhat.
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gosh darn Cavs coming back from 19 last night grrr
Rondo was absolutely incredible though. 16 assists is crazy, somewhat.
rondo is the reason boston lost
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gosh darn Cavs coming back from 19 last night grrr
Rondo was absolutely incredible though. 16 assists is crazy, somewhat.
rondo is the reason boston lost
he fucked it up at the last second and lost control of the ball trying to be fancy
but without Rondo boston is losing that game by 50. Rondo made so many insane passes...i missed the first 5 minutes or so but caught the last 40+
Irving and Lebron in that 4th quarter though....
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cleveland is weaksauce so far..they jus got lucky rondo choked
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cleveland is weaksauce so far..they jus got lucky rondo choked
Spurs @ Cavs this wednesday on BSPN 8)
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Cavs are beasting right now
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Lebron is balling right now
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They better do somethin this year, cuz love is walkin come the offseason
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highly doubt that. Love knows staying in the east is best because the western teams will cannibalize each other in the playoffs lol
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Irving is out right now but they still won last night
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They better do somethin this year, cuz love is walkin come the offseason
Dude getting exposed when he isnt playing the looter in a riot role
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who thinks Blatt gets canned and replaced by one of Bron's puppets?
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who thinks Blatt gets canned and replaced by one of Bron's puppets?
not this year
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It's funny, this is the best team Love's ever been on, and his on a team with a winning record for the first time in his career, and he doesn't know how to take it. Kyrie Irving has been balling, and is winning for the first time in his career, yet he has had trouble messing with LeBron. Irving and Love are putting up great numbers but the chemistry isn't there at all. Then you throw in Dion Waiters who is completely lost on this team. You get a bunch of guys who don't know how to win and expect them to win with the best player in the world and an inexperienced coach. It just isn't working, and yet if I was Irving and Love I'd be so excited right now to be on a winning team. Yet both look like they hate their roles on their team. Irving at least has been improving. But still, this team does not look like it could win the weak East.
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It's funny, this is the best team Love's ever been on, and his on a team with a winning record for the first time in his career, and he doesn't know how to take it. Kyrie Irving has been balling, and is winning for the first time in his career, yet he has had trouble messing with LeBron. Irving and Love are putting up great numbers but the chemistry isn't there at all. Then you throw in Dion Waiters who is completely lost on this team. You get a bunch of guys who don't know how to win and expect them to win with the best player in the world and an inexperienced coach. It just isn't working, and yet if I was Irving and Love I'd be so excited right now to be on a winning team. Yet both look like they hate their roles on their team. Irving at least has been improving. But still, this team does not look like it could win the weak East.
lets put it this way...LeBron is overrated. always has been, always will be.......people really expected him to come back to cleveland and perform miracles, but he aint no prime kobe or nothin. at the end of the day, he ran to a team with 2 other franchise players (1 who was already a champion+finals mvp) and won a couple titles there.....t-mac, vince carter, dominique wilkins, carmelo anthony, alex english, clyde drexler etc. etc. in their prime woulda done exactly the same (especially in a historically easy eastern conference)......the legend of lebron is greater than lebron himself. you take any of the all-time greats in their prime and put them on a team like this, and theyd be 25-5 right now, at the very least.
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here comes NIK with his anti Lebron agenda :laugh:
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am i wrong tho?
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you are.
Lebron is not "over rated" as he is going to go down as a top 10 player ever. only a guy dropping 25 and 7 can be called out for how he's playing in Cleveland with his cohorts who never sniffed the playoffs alone.
you even said the Heat would be better than the Cavs :laugh:
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LEBRON IS NOT OVERRATED? HE CANT WIN WITHOUT WADE, G..............HE NEEDS AN ALPHA ON HIS TEAM, CUZ HE'S CLEARLY A BETA. IF HE DOESN'T WIN ANOTHER RING, IT'LL JUST FURTHER PROVE MY POINT. WATCH.
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I'm not going to say LeBron is overrated. He is by far the best player of his era. I'd say this era of players he's part of is softer than Charmin, but of this era of players he's the best. That's not being overrated.
Anyways, he's with a team that has no playoff players. You can look back and you'll see that I mentioned this over and over again, and now I want people to recognize, I TOLD YOU SO. All these people saying, oh the Cavs are going to win it all. I said that LeBron can't win because he's with a bunch of players who don't know how to win. Irving and Love's numbers are great, yet both are whiny bitches who are complaining about their roles. Waiters numbers are down as he has no idea what he's doing. And I said it before the season. The sad part is the Cavs will more than likely split up after this. But if they keep it together next year, they'll be fine. But they got players who are use to losing, who know nothing other than losing, and now that they are on a team with a winning record, they still act like they are losers. It's so sad to see actually.
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I'm not going to say LeBron is overrated. He is by far the best player of his era. I'd say this era of players he's part of is softer than Charmin, but of this era of players he's the best. That's not being overrated.
Anyways, he's with a team that has no playoff players. You can look back and you'll see that I mentioned this over and over again, and now I want people to recognize, I TOLD YOU SO. All these people saying, oh the Cavs are going to win it all. I said that LeBron can't win because he's with a bunch of players who don't know how to win. Irving and Love's numbers are great, yet both are whiny bitches who are complaining about their roles. Waiters numbers are down as he has no idea what he's doing. And I said it before the season. The sad part is the Cavs will more than likely split up after this. But if they keep it together next year, they'll be fine. But they got players who are use to losing, who know nothing other than losing, and now that they are on a team with a winning record, they still act like they are losers. It's so sad to see actually.
durant will prove to be better when it's all said and done.... and when people generally compare him to the all-time greats and act as if he's a consensus top 5, thats not overrated? lol come on brodie.
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lmao
durant gonna go "ring chasing" in washington when his deal is up and NIK will make excuses to push his anti Lebron agenda
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lmao
durant gonna go "ring chasing" in washington when his deal is up and NIK will make excuses to push his anti Lebron agenda
at least hed be goin to his hometown and not abandoning it.
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there you go proving my point :D
thanks
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lolwut? that didnt prove anything
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I'm not going to say LeBron is overrated. He is by far the best player of his era. I'd say this era of players he's part of is softer than Charmin, but of this era of players he's the best. That's not being overrated.
Anyways, he's with a team that has no playoff players. You can look back and you'll see that I mentioned this over and over again, and now I want people to recognize, I TOLD YOU SO. All these people saying, oh the Cavs are going to win it all. I said that LeBron can't win because he's with a bunch of players who don't know how to win. Irving and Love's numbers are great, yet both are whiny bitches who are complaining about their roles. Waiters numbers are down as he has no idea what he's doing. And I said it before the season. The sad part is the Cavs will more than likely split up after this. But if they keep it together next year, they'll be fine. But they got players who are use to losing, who know nothing other than losing, and now that they are on a team with a winning record, they still act like they are losers. It's so sad to see actually.
durant will prove to be better when it's all said and done.... and when people generally compare him to the all-time greats and act as if he's a consensus top 5, thats not overrated? lol come on brodie.
I think that Durant gets put in the next era as he'll win once LeBron fades, and we are starting to see that fade. I always said LeBron can't last long unless his game evolves, and it looks like LeBron wouldn't last long. But LeBron's peers are Melo, Wade, Bosh, Dwight, CP3, Bynum, Rondo is at the end of that era, players like Amar'e and Boozer are at the beginning. Just a really soft group of stars, I mean Rudy Gay was a name in that era. Those guys got dominated by the Kobe/Duncan/Dirk era that was the last of that old school mentality, now it's time for the Durant, Noah, Marc Gasol, Rose, Westbrook, Love, Curry, Blake, Harden, George, Wall, Irving, Unibrow generation to step up. But I think they're soft too. I am holding out hope for the Wiggins, Parker generation of players, I think this last draft will be a transformative draft like the 1996 draft was that started the Kobe/Duncan/Nash/Dirk era, or the 2003 draft that was the peak of the millennial draft. We'll see.
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Adrian Wojornowski (sp?) just was on the radio and dude straight skipped over Durant and says we're going from Lebron to Anthony Davis :D
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I'm not going to say LeBron is overrated. He is by far the best player of his era. I'd say this era of players he's part of is softer than Charmin, but of this era of players he's the best. That's not being overrated.
Anyways, he's with a team that has no playoff players. You can look back and you'll see that I mentioned this over and over again, and now I want people to recognize, I TOLD YOU SO. All these people saying, oh the Cavs are going to win it all. I said that LeBron can't win because he's with a bunch of players who don't know how to win. Irving and Love's numbers are great, yet both are whiny bitches who are complaining about their roles. Waiters numbers are down as he has no idea what he's doing. And I said it before the season. The sad part is the Cavs will more than likely split up after this. But if they keep it together next year, they'll be fine. But they got players who are use to losing, who know nothing other than losing, and now that they are on a team with a winning record, they still act like they are losers. It's so sad to see actually.
durant will prove to be better when it's all said and done.... and when people generally compare him to the all-time greats and act as if he's a consensus top 5, thats not overrated? lol come on brodie.
I think that Durant gets put in the next era as he'll win once LeBron fades, and we are starting to see that fade. I always said LeBron can't last long unless his game evolves, and it looks like LeBron wouldn't last long. But LeBron's peers are Melo, Wade, Bosh, Dwight, CP3, Bynum, Rondo is at the end of that era, players like Amar'e and Boozer are at the beginning. Just a really soft group of stars, I mean Rudy Gay was a name in that era. Those guys got dominated by the Kobe/Duncan/Dirk era that was the last of that old school mentality, now it's time for the Durant, Noah, Marc Gasol, Rose, Westbrook, Love, Curry, Blake, Harden, George, Wall, Irving, Unibrow generation to step up. But I think they're soft too. I am holding out hope for the Wiggins, Parker generation of players, I think this last draft will be a transformative draft like the 1996 draft was that started the Kobe/Duncan/Nash/Dirk era, or the 2003 draft that was the peak of the millennial draft. We'll see.
theres a 3 1/2 year age difference between lebron and durant bruh.....same era. theyre both in their prime at the same time, think about it.
anthony davis, jabari parker, demarcus cousins, andrew wiggins, mcw etc are the next era
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The problem is that MJ and Magic were only 4 years apart in age, but are considered different generation. Magic was part
of the Bird/Magic generation, and MJ is more with Ewing/Barkley/Malone. It's not about age, it's about when your prime is. Durant is just hitting his prime, 26-32. Where as LeBron is fading because his style of play is too physical and he had an early prime. As LeBron enters his 30's, he is going to fade and become injure prone. Durant will rise and win titles. At the end, they'll been seen in different eras. If Durant performs as expected then he'd pass LeBron easy. I don't think LeBron will go down as top 10 all time. What happens in Cleveland will be his final judgement. If he doesn't win, he will be judged harshly. If Durant if can win over the next few years, he'd pass LeBron and he'd be seen like MJ compared to Magic and Bird, with LeBron being Magic/Bird. Basically once these dinosaurs leave, MJ can finally rise to greatness. But from the looks of LeBron, his prime will be from 24-30. At the same time, the best of Durant is yet to come. But I am kind of sad. In terms of history LeBron will be like the biggest what if question. People will wonder what went wrong and ask why he could never be the greatest of all time. He would be like the Mike Tyson of basketball, without the jail time. Tyson was suppose to pass Ali as the greatest, but was his own worst enemy. All the physical tools in the world, but could never put it together. LeBron wouldn't even pass Kobe, let alone Magic, Jordan, or Russell. Maybe he'd be seen like the Wilt of this generation, he'd been seen as the greatest physical player of his era, but he only won so many times and lost more than won.
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The problem is that MJ and Magic were only 4 years apart in age, but are considered different generation. Magic was part
of the Bird/Magic generation, and MJ is more with Ewing/Barkley/Malone. It's not about age, it's about when your prime is. Durant is just hitting his prime, 26-32. Where as LeBron is fading because his style of play is too physical and he had an early prime. As LeBron enters his 30's, he is going to fade and become injure prone. Durant will rise and win titles. At the end, they'll been seen in different eras. If Durant performs as expected then he'd pass LeBron easy. I don't think LeBron will go down as top 10 all time. What happens in Cleveland will be his final judgement. If he doesn't win, he will be judged harshly. If Durant if can win over the next few years, he'd pass LeBron and he'd be seen like MJ compared to Magic and Bird, with LeBron being Magic/Bird. Basically once these dinosaurs leave, MJ can finally rise to greatness. But from the looks of LeBron, his prime will be from 24-30. At the same time, the best of Durant is yet to come. But I am kind of sad. In terms of history LeBron will be like the biggest what if question. People will wonder what went wrong and ask why he could never be the greatest of all time. He would be like the Mike Tyson of basketball, without the jail time. Tyson was suppose to pass Ali as the greatest, but was his own worst enemy. All the physical tools in the world, but could never put it together. LeBron wouldn't even pass Kobe, let alone Magic, Jordan, or Russell. Maybe he'd be seen like the Wilt of this generation, he'd been seen as the greatest physical player of his era, but he only won so many times and lost more than won.
Jordan's prime came after Magic's....right now, Durant and LeBron have both been in their prime for the past few years. they even faced off in the Finals in 2012.....theres no way they arent from the same generation.
and Rondo was drafted in '06, a year before Durant, but 3 years after Lebron....yet you placed him in "Lebron's generation". botton line, all those players are from the same generation....the generation after that is irving, davis, wiggins, demarcus, curry, jabari etc.
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Magic and Jordan faced off in a finals too.
The hard part of finding that generational split is there wasn't that really bad year or transformative player in the mid 2000's. In the 80's Jordan was that split, in the 90's, KG jumping to the NBA was that split, 2000's horrible draft class was that split, and I only put Rondo in the last generation because he fits that one better than the Durant generation, and Durant I think is that player to signal the split in generation. And since a player's prime is only 4-6 years, to me a generation is only that long. Magic and MJ were close in age and closer in draft class, but clearly different generations. Magic was still in his prime, 31 and led L.A. to the finals, as Jordan entered his, 27 and the scoring champion. In 2012 you had a very young Durant trying to knock off the unbeatable Heat with LeBron as the leader of the Heat. But now LeBron is starting to fade and Durant will rise as an individual player. As for Rondo, he was the hardest to put in a generation, but I truly think Durant will be seen as that player to define his generation the same way Jordan did. Not saying his top 10 all time, but he is top 5 today and of his era.
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Magic and Jordan faced off in a finals too.
The hard part of finding that generational split is there wasn't that really bad year or transformative player in the mid 2000's. In the 80's Jordan was that split, in the 90's, KG jumping to the NBA was that split, 2000's horrible draft class was that split, and I only put Rondo in the last generation because he fits that one better than the Durant generation, and Durant I think is that player to signal the split in generation. And since a player's prime is only 4-6 years, to me a generation is only that long. Magic and MJ were close in age and closer in draft class, but clearly different generations. Magic was still in his prime, 31 and led L.A. to the finals, as Jordan entered his, 27 and the scoring champion. In 2012 you had a very young Durant trying to knock off the unbeatable Heat with LeBron as the leader of the Heat. But now LeBron is starting to fade and Durant will rise as an individual player. As for Rondo, he was the hardest to put in a generation, but I truly think Durant will be seen as that player to define his generation the same way Jordan did. Not saying his top 10 all time, but he is top 5 today and of his era.
they faced in the finals when magic was out his prime......different eras, brodie. magic was 80s, mj was 90s, kobe was 00s, durant 10s (same with lebron, he falls under 10s).....the 20s will most likely be the anthony davis era.
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Magic and Jordan faced off in a finals too.
The hard part of finding that generational split is there wasn't that really bad year or transformative player in the mid 2000's. In the 80's Jordan was that split, in the 90's, KG jumping to the NBA was that split, 2000's horrible draft class was that split, and I only put Rondo in the last generation because he fits that one better than the Durant generation, and Durant I think is that player to signal the split in generation. And since a player's prime is only 4-6 years, to me a generation is only that long. Magic and MJ were close in age and closer in draft class, but clearly different generations. Magic was still in his prime, 31 and led L.A. to the finals, as Jordan entered his, 27 and the scoring champion. In 2012 you had a very young Durant trying to knock off the unbeatable Heat with LeBron as the leader of the Heat. But now LeBron is starting to fade and Durant will rise as an individual player. As for Rondo, he was the hardest to put in a generation, but I truly think Durant will be seen as that player to define his generation the same way Jordan did. Not saying his top 10 all time, but he is top 5 today and of his era.
they faced in the finals when magic was out his prime......different eras, brodie. magic was 80s, mj was 90s, kobe was 00s, durant 10s (same with lebron, he falls under 10s).....the 20s will most likely be the anthony davis era.
Except Magic was only 31, and he had all his career averages that year, 19ppg, 12.5apg, and 7rpg. Still hurting all his numbers and he led a Laker team that didn't have Kareem anymore.
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Magic and Jordan faced off in a finals too.
The hard part of finding that generational split is there wasn't that really bad year or transformative player in the mid 2000's. In the 80's Jordan was that split, in the 90's, KG jumping to the NBA was that split, 2000's horrible draft class was that split, and I only put Rondo in the last generation because he fits that one better than the Durant generation, and Durant I think is that player to signal the split in generation. And since a player's prime is only 4-6 years, to me a generation is only that long. Magic and MJ were close in age and closer in draft class, but clearly different generations. Magic was still in his prime, 31 and led L.A. to the finals, as Jordan entered his, 27 and the scoring champion. In 2012 you had a very young Durant trying to knock off the unbeatable Heat with LeBron as the leader of the Heat. But now LeBron is starting to fade and Durant will rise as an individual player. As for Rondo, he was the hardest to put in a generation, but I truly think Durant will be seen as that player to define his generation the same way Jordan did. Not saying his top 10 all time, but he is top 5 today and of his era.
they faced in the finals when magic was out his prime......different eras, brodie. magic was 80s, mj was 90s, kobe was 00s, durant 10s (same with lebron, he falls under 10s).....the 20s will most likely be the anthony davis era.
Except Magic was only 31, and he had all his career averages that year, 19ppg, 12.5apg, and 7rpg. Still hurting all his numbers and he led a Laker team that didn't have Kareem anymore.
it was the end of magic's era and the beginning of michael's g....if magic had never contracted HIV and continued playin, it'd be another story. but i mapped it out perfectly, u cant disagree.
magic 80s
jordan 90s
kobe 00s
durant/lebron 10s
davis 20s
the 10s is still up for discussion....if durant wins titles before 2020, he will be the player of the generation. davis is lookin like the clear cut favorite to lead the future tho.
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bird/magic
then mj
then shaq
then lebron
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trolol
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trolol
i forgot to add Rondo at the end
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Magic and Jordan faced off in a finals too.
The hard part of finding that generational split is there wasn't that really bad year or transformative player in the mid 2000's. In the 80's Jordan was that split, in the 90's, KG jumping to the NBA was that split, 2000's horrible draft class was that split, and I only put Rondo in the last generation because he fits that one better than the Durant generation, and Durant I think is that player to signal the split in generation. And since a player's prime is only 4-6 years, to me a generation is only that long. Magic and MJ were close in age and closer in draft class, but clearly different generations. Magic was still in his prime, 31 and led L.A. to the finals, as Jordan entered his, 27 and the scoring champion. In 2012 you had a very young Durant trying to knock off the unbeatable Heat with LeBron as the leader of the Heat. But now LeBron is starting to fade and Durant will rise as an individual player. As for Rondo, he was the hardest to put in a generation, but I truly think Durant will be seen as that player to define his generation the same way Jordan did. Not saying his top 10 all time, but he is top 5 today and of his era.
they faced in the finals when magic was out his prime......different eras, brodie. magic was 80s, mj was 90s, kobe was 00s, durant 10s (same with lebron, he falls under 10s).....the 20s will most likely be the anthony davis era.
Except Magic was only 31, and he had all his career averages that year, 19ppg, 12.5apg, and 7rpg. Still hurting all his numbers and he led a Laker team that didn't have Kareem anymore.
it was the end of magic's era and the beginning of michael's g....if magic had never contracted HIV and continued playin, it'd be another story. but i mapped it out perfectly, u cant disagree.
magic 80s
jordan 90s
kobe 00s
durant/lebron 10s
davis 20s
the 10s is still up for discussion....if durant wins titles before 2020, he will be the player of the generation. davis is lookin like the clear cut favorite to lead the future tho.
You are insistent on erasing LeBron from NBA history. First off, if anything decades are to general to judge eras. Second, some like LeBron are kind of weird in between decade stars. But if you insist on judging by decades, I'd split them by halves.
Early 80's, Magic/Bird
Late 80's, Magic/Thomas
Early 90's, Jordan/Hakeem
Late 90's, Jordan/Malone
Early 00's, Shaq & Kobe/Duncan
Late 00's, Kobe/Duncan/Pierce
Early 10's LeBron/Duncan & Parker
Late 10's, my guess is Durant/Curry
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how can Kobe even be in the same conversation as Shaq when Shaq was the one who won the 3 finals MVP's
there are a clear separation of greatness at that moment in time
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if you look at NIK posts from that era you even see him refer to Shaq as the greatest center of all time :laugh:
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how can Kobe even be in the same conversation as Shaq when Shaq was the one who won the 3 finals MVP's
there are a clear separation of greatness at that moment in time
thats because that was kobe pre-prime.....by 2001, it was already clear that kobe was on his way to bein even better than shaq. shaq already called him the best player on the planet by then. and once u take in every other career accolade from points, to first teams, to championships., it aint even close.
your last sentence dont make sense.
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Magic and Jordan faced off in a finals too.
The hard part of finding that generational split is there wasn't that really bad year or transformative player in the mid 2000's. In the 80's Jordan was that split, in the 90's, KG jumping to the NBA was that split, 2000's horrible draft class was that split, and I only put Rondo in the last generation because he fits that one better than the Durant generation, and Durant I think is that player to signal the split in generation. And since a player's prime is only 4-6 years, to me a generation is only that long. Magic and MJ were close in age and closer in draft class, but clearly different generations. Magic was still in his prime, 31 and led L.A. to the finals, as Jordan entered his, 27 and the scoring champion. In 2012 you had a very young Durant trying to knock off the unbeatable Heat with LeBron as the leader of the Heat. But now LeBron is starting to fade and Durant will rise as an individual player. As for Rondo, he was the hardest to put in a generation, but I truly think Durant will be seen as that player to define his generation the same way Jordan did. Not saying his top 10 all time, but he is top 5 today and of his era.
they faced in the finals when magic was out his prime......different eras, brodie. magic was 80s, mj was 90s, kobe was 00s, durant 10s (same with lebron, he falls under 10s).....the 20s will most likely be the anthony davis era.
Except Magic was only 31, and he had all his career averages that year, 19ppg, 12.5apg, and 7rpg. Still hurting all his numbers and he led a Laker team that didn't have Kareem anymore.
it was the end of magic's era and the beginning of michael's g....if magic had never contracted HIV and continued playin, it'd be another story. but i mapped it out perfectly, u cant disagree.
magic 80s
jordan 90s
kobe 00s
durant/lebron 10s
davis 20s
the 10s is still up for discussion....if durant wins titles before 2020, he will be the player of the generation. davis is lookin like the clear cut favorite to lead the future tho.
You are insistent on erasing LeBron from NBA history. First off, if anything decades are to general to judge eras. Second, some like LeBron are kind of weird in between decade stars. But if you insist on judging by decades, I'd split them by halves.
Early 80's, Magic/Bird
Late 80's, Magic/Thomas
Early 90's, Jordan/Hakeem
Late 90's, Jordan/Malone
Early 00's, Shaq & Kobe/Duncan
Late 00's, Kobe/Duncan/Pierce
Early 10's LeBron/Duncan & Parker
Late 10's, my guess is Durant/Curry
now you just doin too much lol
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1998/99: After MJ retired Shaq was the most dominant and best player for 4-5 straight years. forget iverson, kobe or even duncan. then the lakers split up and kobe got better and Shaq regressed after 2 years in miami (and his 4th title).
2003-2006: You could say the best player was Kobe, Duncan or Garnett. I know NIK will sit there and tell you Steve Nash should be on this list but I can't justify it.
2007: Lebron enters his prime and is the best player
2014: Lebron is struggling and now people are wondering if Curry or Anthony could take that throne. Durant is still young too but he'll always be 2nd place until he wins a ring.
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now you just doin too much lol
But you know it's true... LOL... that late 00's was hard to narrow it down, all three of those players were always finding ways to lead their teams to the finals.
1998/99: After MJ retired Shaq was the most dominant and best player for 4-5 straight years. forget iverson, kobe or even duncan. then the lakers split up and kobe got better and Shaq regressed after 2 years in miami (and his 4th title).
2003-2006: You could say the best player was Kobe, Duncan or Garnett. I know NIK will sit there and tell you Steve Nash should be on this list but I can't justify it.
2007: Lebron enters his prime and is the best player
2014: Lebron is struggling and now people are wondering if Curry or Anthony could take that throne. Durant is still young too but he'll always be 2nd place until he wins a ring.
First off, Garnett doesn't belong on this list, ESPECIALLY between 2003-2006. He only led his team out the first round once in his career. Even superstars on their own, with no help usually get out the first round. And you can semi-justify Nash, he did win 2 MVP's, but it's common knowledge that those MVP's should have gone to Bean but the NBA was still mad at him for whatever happened in that hotel room.
2007, LeBron enters his prime, but he was NOT the best player in the league. If I recall, Kobe was winning titles, and with a good team but it was a traditionally built team. As in, it's the same kind of team that many superstars have to win titles. You had the star, Kobe, #2 man, Pau, utility man, Odom, big shot guy, Fisher, always hurt guy who can contribute when healthy, Bynum, and defensive specialist, Ariza/Artest. It's not like Kobe had 2 other superstars with him. And even when LeBron had 2 other superstars, they only won 2 out of 4 titles. That's 3 bona fide superstars, losing to traditionally built teams. Anyways, LeBron was in no way better than Kobe from 2007-2010. The only way you can think that is if you are trolling. Awe son of a bitch, I feel for your damn trolling on New Years Eve. I should just wake up my wife, have sex and then deal with this in the morning.
2014. LeBron is struggling because he's off them 'roids. I started listening to Bay Area sports radio this football season to get Raider news and follow the Harbaugh saga. One thing I love about the Bay, they have no problems talking about LeBron and 'roids. It's down right funny. They have been getting on him hard to leaving Miami and Biogenesis and then losing all kinds of weight in Cleveland. Anthony isn't taking the crown, but this might be the year that we see someone new take it. But in 1999 we all thought the next NBA champion would be the one to take the crown, and the Spurs won but then the Lakers just dominated the next 3 years and we all knew that the 1999 title was just a fluke. Once Kobe started to reach his prime, well enough in 2000 and then fully in 2001, that no one can stop the Lakers. So I am not putting too much into who wins this title. I'll hold judgment for a few years.
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look where KG was in the MVP voting before saying stupid things about KG
1999-00 NBA 0.337 (2)
2000-01 NBA 0.122 (5)
2001-02 NBA 0.013 (12)
2002-03 NBA 0.732 (2)
2003-04 NBA 0.991 (1)
yeah nobody thought he was the best ::)
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look where KG was in the MVP voting before saying stupid things about KG
1999-00 NBA 0.337 (2)
2000-01 NBA 0.122 (5)
2001-02 NBA 0.013 (12)
2002-03 NBA 0.732 (2)
2003-04 NBA 0.991 (1)
yeah nobody thought he was the best ::)
Except no one thought him better than Shaq, Duncan or Kobe. Maybe a couple of people. And let's see results, Nash won MVP trophies over Kobe, and even you have a hard time putting Nash over Kobe. So all we know, KG got Kobe's votes post 2003. And the results are this...
playoffs:
1997, 3 game sweep to Houston
1998, 3-2 lost to Seattle
1999, 3-1 lost to San Antonio
2000, 3-1 lost to Portland
2001, 3-1 lost to San Antonio
2002, 3 game sweep to Dallas, which wasn't as good as the Dallas today
2003, 4-2 lost to Lakers
2004, 4-1 win over Denver, 4-3 over Sacramento, 4-2 lost to Lakers
2005-2007, didn't see the playoffs again.
KG had one great year, and before that he produced average results. Results don't lie. Most superstars by themselves get to the second round at least a couple of times. KG just couldn't cut the mustard. And you are talking to someone who wanted the Lakers to trade for him, look up my history with KG. I like him. But he just wasn't up to snuff to be up there with Shaq, Kobe, Duncan.
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1998/99: After MJ retired Shaq was the most dominant and best player for 4-5 straight years. forget iverson, kobe or even duncan. then the lakers split up and kobe got better and Shaq regressed after 2 years in miami (and his 4th title).
2003-2006: You could say the best player was Kobe, Duncan or Garnett. I know NIK will sit there and tell you Steve Nash should be on this list but I can't justify it.
2007: Lebron enters his prime and is the best player
2014: Lebron is struggling and now people are wondering if Curry or Anthony could take that throne. Durant is still young too but he'll always be 2nd place until he wins a ring.
trolol .. especially at Lebron bein the best player in 07
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look where KG was in the MVP voting before saying stupid things about KG
1999-00 NBA 0.337 (2)
2000-01 NBA 0.122 (5)
2001-02 NBA 0.013 (12)
2002-03 NBA 0.732 (2)
2003-04 NBA 0.991 (1)
yeah nobody thought he was the best ::)
Except no one thought him better than Shaq, Duncan or Kobe. Maybe a couple of people. And let's see results, Nash won MVP trophies over Kobe, and even you have a hard time putting Nash over Kobe. So all we know, KG got Kobe's votes post 2003. And the results are this...
playoffs:
1997, 3 game sweep to Houston
1998, 3-2 lost to Seattle
1999, 3-1 lost to San Antonio
2000, 3-1 lost to Portland
2001, 3-1 lost to San Antonio
2002, 3 game sweep to Dallas, which wasn't as good as the Dallas today
2003, 4-2 lost to Lakers
2004, 4-1 win over Denver, 4-3 over Sacramento, 4-2 lost to Lakers
2005-2007, didn't see the playoffs again.
KG had one great year, and before that he produced average results. Results don't lie. Most superstars by themselves get to the second round at least a couple of times. KG just couldn't cut the mustard. And you are talking to someone who wanted the Lakers to trade for him, look up my history with KG. I like him. But he just wasn't up to snuff to be up there with Shaq, Kobe, Duncan.
Great players needs good players around them to succeed, besides KGs best year in Minnesota his best teammate was fucking Wally. Big surprise KG advances in the playoffs when their shitty front office finally brought in some good players (Cassell, Sprewell)
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now you just doin too much lol
But you know it's true... LOL... that late 00's was hard to narrow it down, all three of those players were always finding ways to lead their teams to the finals.
1998/99: After MJ retired Shaq was the most dominant and best player for 4-5 straight years. forget iverson, kobe or even duncan. then the lakers split up and kobe got better and Shaq regressed after 2 years in miami (and his 4th title).
2003-2006: You could say the best player was Kobe, Duncan or Garnett. I know NIK will sit there and tell you Steve Nash should be on this list but I can't justify it.
2007: Lebron enters his prime and is the best player
2014: Lebron is struggling and now people are wondering if Curry or Anthony could take that throne. Durant is still young too but he'll always be 2nd place until he wins a ring.
First off, Garnett doesn't belong on this list, ESPECIALLY between 2003-2006. He only led his team out the first round once in his career. Even superstars on their own, with no help usually get out the first round. And you can semi-justify Nash, he did win 2 MVP's, but it's common knowledge that those MVP's should have gone to Bean but the NBA was still mad at him for whatever happened in that hotel room.
2007, LeBron enters his prime, but he was NOT the best player in the league. If I recall, Kobe was winning titles, and with a good team but it was a traditionally built team. As in, it's the same kind of team that many superstars have to win titles. You had the star, Kobe, #2 man, Pau, utility man, Odom, big shot guy, Fisher, always hurt guy who can contribute when healthy, Bynum, and defensive specialist, Ariza/Artest. It's not like Kobe had 2 other superstars with him. And even when LeBron had 2 other superstars, they only won 2 out of 4 titles. That's 3 bona fide superstars, losing to traditionally built teams. Anyways, LeBron was in no way better than Kobe from 2007-2010. The only way you can think that is if you are trolling. Awe son of a bitch, I feel for your damn trolling on New Years Eve. I should just wake up my wife, have sex and then deal with this in the morning.
2014. LeBron is struggling because he's off them 'roids. I started listening to Bay Area sports radio this football season to get Raider news and follow the Harbaugh saga. One thing I love about the Bay, they have no problems talking about LeBron and 'roids. It's down right funny. They have been getting on him hard to leaving Miami and Biogenesis and then losing all kinds of weight in Cleveland. Anthony isn't taking the crown, but this might be the year that we see someone new take it. But in 1999 we all thought the next NBA champion would be the one to take the crown, and the Spurs won but then the Lakers just dominated the next 3 years and we all knew that the 1999 title was just a fluke. Once Kobe started to reach his prime, well enough in 2000 and then fully in 2001, that no one can stop the Lakers. So I am not putting too much into who wins this title. I'll hold judgment for a few years.
I think the way I mapped it out was the most efficient ... generations aren't every 5 years. the end of a decade is a good cut off.
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I think the way I mapped it out was the most efficient ... generations aren't every 5 years. the end of a decade is a good cut off.
The difference is that the NFL likes to do the team of decades thing. The NFL is more of a team sport and it's easier to do decades. And almost every fan can say who the team of each decade is. 60's, Packers, 70's, Steelers, 80's, 49ers, 90's, Cowboys, 2000's, Patriots, 2010's, not known yet but more than likely either the Seahawks or the Packers. The NBA is a little different though.
The NBA is all about which player dominates. Since Stern took over, he switched the narrative from teams to individual players. So in the 60's you had the Celtics, in the 70's you basically had the ABA because no NBA team really dominated once the league over expanded and then lost half their players to the ABA. The 80's went originally from being Lakers/Celtics to being all about Magic/Bird because of Stern's new approach. The 90's was all Jordan, with Hakeem in there when Jordan retired for a year and a half. The early 2000's was all about Kobe/Shaq, the late 2000's was about the Duncan and fundamental basketball with the whole Rivalry reborn of Kobe vs. the Celtics Big 3. The early 2010's is all about LeBron James and the Heatles vs. the whole league. The NBA does eras based off stories, players and narratives rather than just decades. It's just marketed differently than the NFL. I do think for fans, decades is easier, but the league will always find a way add LeBron's era and make people remember it. UNLESS someone exposes LeBron's PED use. In that case, I think the league will vilify LeBron and throw him under the bus since it's the only sports league without a PED problem right now.
Great players needs good players around them to succeed, besides KGs best year in Minnesota his best teammate was fucking Wally. Big surprise KG advances in the playoffs when their shitty front office finally brought in some good players (Cassell, Sprewell)
You forget Marbury who averaged 17ppg and 9apg, and Joe Smith, Terrell Brandon was very key in the late 90's averaging 17ppg and 9apg, Malik Sealy was also key, Wally was actually the 3rd option for a while, Chauncey Billups spent a year there in his prime, all before Sam and Spree came to the team. What's more striking than KG not being able to get out the first round is how quickly he declined. In 2004, he was the MVP, by 2006 he dropped to only 22ppg, still getting 13rpg, but at 29 you start to see his production go down. He was almost like LeBron is now, such a physical force, but once that starts to deplete a little you start to see him need even more help. Part of KG's problem in the playoffs, and this was talked about at exhausting levels in MN, was that he got TOO excited for big moments. Almost to the point that people started to wonder if he was too amped up for games. A big part of that was he was a very intense player, so the bigger the moment, the more pressure, the more pressure he put on himself. Many in MN were wondering if he needed to be a second option in playoff time because he wasn't built for the big moments. Of course once he got to Boston, he was over 30, he was the second option behind Paul Pierce, and he was the intense role player instead of the main guy who put too much on himself to preform. And there is nothing wrong with that, that should have always been KG's role. But this is also why I don't put him as such a great player, someone who's up there with Kobe, Duncan, hell even Pierce. I put Pierce over KG in a heartbeat.
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I think the way I mapped it out was the most efficient ... generations aren't every 5 years. the end of a decade is a good cut off.
The difference is that the NFL likes to do the team of decades thing. The NFL is more of a team sport and it's easier to do decades. And almost every fan can say who the team of each decade is. 60's, Packers, 70's, Steelers, 80's, 49ers, 90's, Cowboys, 2000's, Patriots, 2010's, not known yet but more than likely either the Seahawks or the Packers. The NBA is a little different though.
The NBA is all about which player dominates. Since Stern took over, he switched the narrative from teams to individual players. So in the 60's you had the Celtics, in the 70's you basically had the ABA because no NBA team really dominated once the league over expanded and then lost half their players to the ABA. The 80's went originally from being Lakers/Celtics to being all about Magic/Bird because of Stern's new approach. The 90's was all Jordan, with Hakeem in there when Jordan retired for a year and a half. The early 2000's was all about Kobe/Shaq, the late 2000's was about the Duncan and fundamental basketball with the whole Rivalry reborn of Kobe vs. the Celtics Big 3. The early 2010's is all about LeBron James and the Heatles vs. the whole league. The NBA does eras based off stories, players and narratives rather than just decades. It's just marketed differently than the NFL. I do think for fans, decades is easier, but the league will always find a way add LeBron's era and make people remember it. UNLESS someone exposes LeBron's PED use. In that case, I think the league will vilify LeBron and throw him under the bus since it's the only sports league without a PED problem right now.
Great players needs good players around them to succeed, besides KGs best year in Minnesota his best teammate was fucking Wally. Big surprise KG advances in the playoffs when their shitty front office finally brought in some good players (Cassell, Sprewell)
You forget Marbury who averaged 17ppg and 9apg, and Joe Smith, Terrell Brandon was very key in the late 90's averaging 17ppg and 9apg, Malik Sealy was also key, Wally was actually the 3rd option for a while, Chauncey Billups spent a year there in his prime, all before Sam and Spree came to the team. What's more striking than KG not being able to get out the first round is how quickly he declined. In 2004, he was the MVP, by 2006 he dropped to only 22ppg, still getting 13rpg, but at 29 you start to see his production go down. He was almost like LeBron is now, such a physical force, but once that starts to deplete a little you start to see him need even more help. Part of KG's problem in the playoffs, and this was talked about at exhausting levels in MN, was that he got TOO excited for big moments. Almost to the point that people started to wonder if he was too amped up for games. A big part of that was he was a very intense player, so the bigger the moment, the more pressure, the more pressure he put on himself. Many in MN were wondering if he needed to be a second option in playoff time because he wasn't built for the big moments. Of course once he got to Boston, he was over 30, he was the second option behind Paul Pierce, and he was the intense role player instead of the main guy who put too much on himself to preform. And there is nothing wrong with that, that should have always been KG's role. But this is also why I don't put him as such a great player, someone who's up there with Kobe, Duncan, hell even Pierce. I put Pierce over KG in a heartbeat.
good post about KG, but i still think that a generation has to be over the span of a decade, at least.
it would be sad to see lebron remembered for bein a part of the heatles instead of a solo artist with supporting players.....but if durant wins a ring in the 10s, it'll be his generation, and lebron's team-hopping will end up backfiring.
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I think the way I mapped it out was the most efficient ... generations aren't every 5 years. the end of a decade is a good cut off.
The difference is that the NFL likes to do the team of decades thing. The NFL is more of a team sport and it's easier to do decades. And almost every fan can say who the team of each decade is. 60's, Packers, 70's, Steelers, 80's, 49ers, 90's, Cowboys, 2000's, Patriots, 2010's, not known yet but more than likely either the Seahawks or the Packers. The NBA is a little different though.
The NBA is all about which player dominates. Since Stern took over, he switched the narrative from teams to individual players. So in the 60's you had the Celtics, in the 70's you basically had the ABA because no NBA team really dominated once the league over expanded and then lost half their players to the ABA. The 80's went originally from being Lakers/Celtics to being all about Magic/Bird because of Stern's new approach. The 90's was all Jordan, with Hakeem in there when Jordan retired for a year and a half. The early 2000's was all about Kobe/Shaq, the late 2000's was about the Duncan and fundamental basketball with the whole Rivalry reborn of Kobe vs. the Celtics Big 3. The early 2010's is all about LeBron James and the Heatles vs. the whole league. The NBA does eras based off stories, players and narratives rather than just decades. It's just marketed differently than the NFL. I do think for fans, decades is easier, but the league will always find a way add LeBron's era and make people remember it. UNLESS someone exposes LeBron's PED use. In that case, I think the league will vilify LeBron and throw him under the bus since it's the only sports league without a PED problem right now.
Great players needs good players around them to succeed, besides KGs best year in Minnesota his best teammate was fucking Wally. Big surprise KG advances in the playoffs when their shitty front office finally brought in some good players (Cassell, Sprewell)
You forget Marbury who averaged 17ppg and 9apg, and Joe Smith, Terrell Brandon was very key in the late 90's averaging 17ppg and 9apg, Malik Sealy was also key, Wally was actually the 3rd option for a while, Chauncey Billups spent a year there in his prime, all before Sam and Spree came to the team. What's more striking than KG not being able to get out the first round is how quickly he declined. In 2004, he was the MVP, by 2006 he dropped to only 22ppg, still getting 13rpg, but at 29 you start to see his production go down. He was almost like LeBron is now, such a physical force, but once that starts to deplete a little you start to see him need even more help. Part of KG's problem in the playoffs, and this was talked about at exhausting levels in MN, was that he got TOO excited for big moments. Almost to the point that people started to wonder if he was too amped up for games. A big part of that was he was a very intense player, so the bigger the moment, the more pressure, the more pressure he put on himself. Many in MN were wondering if he needed to be a second option in playoff time because he wasn't built for the big moments. Of course once he got to Boston, he was over 30, he was the second option behind Paul Pierce, and he was the intense role player instead of the main guy who put too much on himself to preform. And there is nothing wrong with that, that should have always been KG's role. But this is also why I don't put him as such a great player, someone who's up there with Kobe, Duncan, hell even Pierce. I put Pierce over KG in a heartbeat.
good post about KG, but i still think that a generation has to be over the span of a decade, at least.
it would be sad to see lebron remembered for bein a part of the heatles instead of a solo artist with supporting players.....but if durant wins a ring in the 10s, it'll be his generation, and lebron's team-hopping will end up backfiring.
Unless they find LeBron using PEDs, the NBA will still market LeBron the same way they still market Magic, Jordan, Shaq and the rest. They'll call it LeBron and the Heatles vs. the whole NBA. Each final story will be about how the Mavs and Spurs overcame the Heatles to win it all, and how the young Thunder team put up a fight and how the old Spurs team put up a fight. The story of his 3 MVP's will be put in there, and how no team was as dominate, except that they weren't that dominated. They just were dominated in a weak era in the NBA.
Now that LeBron is back in Cleveland, if they win one NBA title, just one, the NBA will put LeBron on a pedestal with all the greats. Soon his one title in Cleveland will equal 3 of Jordans in Chicago, the 2 Kobe got post Shaq. LeBron will be made. Unless he is found to use PEDs. I'm telling you, the moment they find LeBron used PEDs, the NBA will throw him so far under the bus, it'll make Alex Rodriguez feel bad for LeBron. But the NBA does it's narratives differently than other sports. The NFL loves team of decades. The NBA loves the era of _________, Magic vs. Bird, The Bad Boys, Jordan, Kobe and Shaq, Duncan, Kobe vs. the Big 3, LeBron and the Heatles. This is how the NBA markets.
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Also, I was about to post a huge explanation of how I defined my NBA generations, but that got to be too long and I feel asleep last night typing... LOL... so this is just a short overview.
By draft class
1978-1983 - the Magic/Bird generation. Defined by draft classes with few superstars, lots of solid role players and this would build the foundation of the 80's.
1984-1988 - The lottery generation. In 1984, tanking became a thing because of the best draft class of all time. So in 1985 the NBA put in a lottery to reduce tanking. Foundation of the 90's NBA.
1989-1995 - The expansion generation. Aside from 1994, the draft classes were very weak, usually one or two great players per draft, and the league was depleted from all the expansion teams of this era.
1996-2000 - The Hip-Hop generation. This generation was too cool for school. Many left school early in '96-'97, or skipped college all together. This caused the early draft classes to be very deep, but later draft classes to be terrible.
2001-2005 - The International/High School generation. Highlighted by the 2003 draft, this was the generation that teams started looking internationally to draft. More skipped college or just went one year.
2006-2012 - The one and done generation. NBA changed the rules because college basketball was suffering since 1996. Now players have to go one year in college, international players are not seen as good enough anymore due to lack of defense.
2013-now - Not sure what it'll be seen as, but the 2014 class was so deep that this usually signs the change of a new generation. 2013 was an okay year too. One thing is for sure, lots of tanking in this generation so far. Might see a change in the lottery soon.
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Lebron out for the next 2 weeks
Kevin Love and Uncle Drew get a chance to get on the same page now while old man Bron rests his knees.
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Cavs gonna whoop the Lakers tonight
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lebron was great in the clutch
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NIK went to the game last night with a "go lebron" sign 8)
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Cavs beat the Clip Show last night
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Lebron and Kyree was on fire lately
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Cavs Bulls tonight brodies
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Kevin Love should be back
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huge win over Chicago yesterday for the Cadavaliers
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Cavs won last night
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Lebron is now 15-4 life time against Durant
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who wins MVP, Lebron or Curry?
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who wins MVP, Lebron or Curry?
nice bait post, but I'll go ahead n take it for the homie 1 time
Lebron wouldn't even be top 5 if MVP voting was today *insert played out MJ gif here*
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the end of the year it's gonna look like this:
1-Curry
2a-Lebron
2b-Harden
4-Lillard
5-Davis
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LOL
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Lebron wouldn't even be top 5 if MVP voting was today
the end of the year it's gonna look like this:
1-Curry
2a-Lebron
2b-Harden
4-Lillard
5-Davis
Both facts.
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LMAO
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Nigga's braggin in another thread that Kobe went 28-12 in the second half of the season, but completely denounces the beyond strong chance LeBron (on a six game winning streak) & the Cavs go on a tear after the all-star break.
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Nigga's braggin in another thread that Kobe went 28-12 in the second half of the season, but completely denounces the beyond strong chance LeBron (on a six game winning streak) & the Cavs go on a tear after the all-star break.
ill be surprised if they make the finals...and thats in a historically weak east. if they do, thats when we give them props...not now.
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Nigga's braggin in another thread that Kobe went 28-12 in the second half of the season, but completely denounces the beyond strong chance LeBron (on a six game winning streak) & the Cavs go on a tear after the all-star break.
Cavs only tough opponent in the east would be the Wiz
i can see Cleveland grabbing the 4/5 seed and shitting on the Bulls and then dismantling Atlanta in the 2nd round
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I'd be shocked if they weren't in the conference finals.
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kyrie with 55 tonight against Lillard
Lebron out...prolly resting
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lebron's gonna get that 5th MVP guys
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finals preview tomorrow?
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Kevin Love getting his 3 on
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Kevin Love is on top of Sccit and Will B's top Power Forward rankings for tonight
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He's been by far the best PF in the last fifteen minutes.
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THATS SO FUNNY I FORGOT TO LAUGH
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stop yelling
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Cavs are up by 31 over an elite western conference team
man the Cavs vs whoever nba finals is gonna be fun
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clippers are elite? didnt realize that
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clippers are elite? didnt realize that
33-16
lakers are 20 games behind :laugh:
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clippers are elite? didnt realize that
33-16
lakers are 20 games behind :laugh:
how many of those wins are against playoff teams?
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who the fuck knows/cares? :laugh:
a win is a win and they got 33. How's the other LA team doing?
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who the fuck knows/cares? :laugh:
a win is a win and they got 33. How's the other LA team doing?
my point is that they're not elite
the other LA team is lookin lottery bound
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33-17 in the west is elite to me
not as good as the Warriors but in the playoffs anything can happen
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33-17 in the west is elite to me
not as good as the Warriors but in the playoffs anything can happen
elite is when you contend and clippers are a couple players from contending
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33-17 in the west is elite to me
Facts.
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cleveland goes for 13 against the Pacers tonight
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cleveland goes for 13 against the Pacers tonight
Gonna lose tonight. Spread is six, public nailed them.
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I don't see them losing
look who's in first place btw
CLE (3) 31 20
CHI (5) 30 20
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Too easy, bruh.
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good call Biebz 8)
those refs know what they're doing
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those refs know what they're doing
Changed a charge on Solomon Hill to an and 1 lol.
My niggas.
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Cavs are raping the Lakers right now
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lebron is back on the steroids....any1 caught that?
remember he came into the season skinny...after the 2 weeks he took off, he looks to be back to his regular bulked out self. shit's pretty damn obvious.
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Niggas so tight.
(http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm75/laudel7/mj-laughing.gif)
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young beibs always lookin for dudes to be "tight"
bet money his favorite rap line is canibus "you aint got the skills to eat a niggaz ass like me"
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lebron is killin it
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lakers took a beat down
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then again they've been taking a lot of those lately
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8)
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LeBron has been shitting on the Lakers all career long
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LeBron has been shitting on the Lakers all career long
who u goin for if it's mavs vs cavs in the finals?
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LeBron has been shitting on the Lakers all career long
very true
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Bulls beat Cavs to end the first half of the season
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LeBron has been shitting on the Lakers all career long
who u goin for if it's mavs vs cavs in the finals?
Same niggas I went for in 2011.
Real spit, can't deny it. Cavs were beating the Lakers even when the Lakers had the much better roster and Kobe was still in his prime. LeBron always wanted to stick it to Kobe twice a year, and he did most of the time.
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LeBron has been shitting on the Lakers all career long
who u goin for if it's mavs vs cavs in the finals?
Same niggas I went for in 2011.
Real spit, can't deny it. Cavs were beating the Lakers even when the Lakers had the much better roster and Kobe was still in his prime. LeBron always wanted to stick it to Kobe twice a year, and he did most of the time.
yup, cant deny it...lebron has always played his best ball in the regular season.
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2 time NBA Finals MVP 8)
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2 time NBA Finals MVP 8)
3 time finals loser
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so what's that make over rated Jerry West?
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better than Lebron
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better than Lebron
1 title in 10 tries? lol
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better than Lebron
1 title in 10 tries? lol
jerry west would have 20 titles if those lakers played in todays eastern conference
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East has won 2 of the lsat 3 NBA finals
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It does actually humor me that I've watched a grown man be so extremely bitter & salty towards another man for almost eight years. Not a shred of credit other than backhanded, "good in the regular season" comments. That truly amazes me.
I've talked sports with thousands of people, never had one who was so close minded. The Kobe/LeBron rivalry didn't go the way the NBA was dying for it to go, so my Knick fan friends have a trillion times more reason to hate his guts for eternity due to the fact 98% of Knick fans pretty much put all their chips into the LeBron sweepstakes & even they can appreciate his greatness now.
Really as a forum, I don't know how we haven't just ignored this kid's opinions when throughout history he's always proved if something or someone is going to hurt or negatively depict the way we see something he likes, he'll spend a decade spinning a story his way lol.
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It does actually humor me that I've watched a grown man be so extremely bitter & salty towards another man for almost eight years. Not a shred of credit other than backhanded, "good in the regular season" comments. That truly amazes me.
I've talked sports with thousands of people, never had one who was so close minded. The Kobe/LeBron rivalry didn't go the way the NBA was dying for it to go, so my Knick fan friends have a trillion times more reason to hate his guts for eternity due to the fact 98% of Knick fans pretty much put all their chips into the LeBron sweepstakes & even they can appreciate his greatness now.
Really as a forum, I don't know how we haven't just ignored this kid's opinions when throughout history he's always proved if something or someone is going to hurt or negatively depict the way we see something he likes, he'll spend a decade spinning a story his way lol.
damn, u really do love LeBron, huh? tell em how u really feel.....
i think pretty much everyone here will agree that i have a far superior understanding of the game of basketball to you and that my extensive knowledge in regards to NBA basketball is unmatched. nice try, tho.
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LMAOOOO. Nobody but a Lakers fan who feels half of the homer-ism you feel agrees with you on anything Laker related.
Once you get outside of the Laker-related realm, there's almost nobody.
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LMAOOOO. Nobody but a Lakers fan who feels half of the homer-ism you feel agrees with you on anything Laker related.
Once you get outside of the Laker-related realm, there's almost nobody.
WHOEVER DONT AGREE WIT ME OBVIOUSLY DONT KNOW THEIR SHIT
SIMPLE SCIENCE
YUP YUP
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remember when NIK said this years Heat would be as good as the Cavs? lol
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remember when NIK said this years Heat would be as good as the Cavs? lol
REMEMBER WHEN U SAID RONDO WAS THE BEST PLAYER IN THE NBA LMAO
AND HE AINT EVEN A TOP 3 PLAYER ON HIS TEAM
TWO CAN PLAY THAT GAME
YUP YUP
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Famar > LeBron.
Bynum = Chamberlain.
LeBron will never win.
Kobe's a leader.
Kobe was better than Shaq during the threepeat years.
Dwight Howard is a terrible center, not worth having on your team.
Lakers will make the playoffs this year.
Funny how every single insane comment you make just displays how homer you are & how your opinion virtually means absolutely nothing lol.
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Famar > LeBron.
Bynum = Chamberlain.
LeBron will never win.
Kobe's a leader.
Kobe was better than Shaq during the threepeat years.
Dwight Howard is a terrible center, not worth having on your team.
Lakers will make the playoffs this year.
Funny how every single insane comment you make just displays how homer you are & how your opinion virtually means absolutely nothing lol.
Dont forget when Lebron won a ring the new narrative was "one and done" :laugh:
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great game tonight 8)
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Famar > LeBron.
Bynum = Chamberlain.
LeBron will never win.
Kobe's a leader.
Kobe was better than Shaq during the threepeat years.
Dwight Howard is a terrible center, not worth having on your team.
Lakers will make the playoffs this year.
Funny how every single insane comment you make just displays how homer you are & how your opinion virtually means absolutely nothing lol.
I NEVER SAID 90% OF THOSE, BUT KEEP TRYIN LIL BRUH
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LMAO. Aii, bruh.
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Cavs steamroll the Wizards
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LMAO. Aii, bruh.
prove it....u cant
#yup yup
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we all know the "farmer over lebron" things, NIK was 2 grades behind him in high school or something
not sure about Wilt aod Bynum, i doubt that one
he definitely used to say lebron will never win
everyone on Earth knows Shaq was the better player during the 3-peat, the 3 finals MVP awards secure that. even NIK wouldn't be that silly.
NIK has said so many things about Howard over the years I stop paying attention
NIK didn't say the Lakers would make the playoffs this year, I certainly recall this. But he did get super excited when they had that tiny win streak earlier this year :laugh:
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in that boys heart, hack knows whatsup...thats my ficca tho
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I'm not looking for it, but the guy used Wilt Chamberlain potential to describe Andrew Bynum...Wilt Chamberlain.
And other than the Lakers making the playoffs this year, Hack agrees lol.
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Kendrick Perkins is now in Cleveland. I will say this is the year Cleveland goes all in. I expect them to make the finals now. Can they beat Golden State? Don't think so yet. But they will get to the finals.
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Kendrick Perkins is now in Cleveland. I will say this is the year Cleveland goes all in. I expect them to make the finals now. Can they beat Golden State? Don't think so yet. But they will get to the finals.
they're having a nice televised scrimmage against the Knicks right now but the NBA is advertising it as a game :laugh:
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I'm not looking for it, but the guy used Wilt Chamberlain potential to describe Andrew Bynum...Wilt Chamberlain.
And other than the Lakers making the playoffs this year, Hack agrees lol.
too bad ur dick doesnt grow when u lie
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Lebron passes Allen Iverson on the all time scoring list
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Kendrick Perkins is now in Cleveland. I will say this is the year Cleveland goes all in. I expect them to make the finals now. Can they beat Golden State? Don't think so yet. But they will get to the finals.
Golden State? I'd be surprised if that style of play made it to the conference finals. I'm obviously exaggerating on "surprised", but Memphis is a far less favorable matchup.
Slap LeBron & Iman on Steph & Klay & LeBron will wear #3.
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yeah Lebron's defense is good enough to slow down Curry or Thompson quite a bit
Cavs problem is how will Kyrie and Love play in the playoffs for the first time
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Warriors play Cavs this week
oh shit
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Warriors play Cavs this week
oh shit
Regular season is trash. The Pacers just beat the Warriors.
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curry better be healthy
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Warriors play Cavs this week
oh shit
Regular season is trash. The Pacers just beat the Warriors.
I WONDER WHY THEY BEAT THEM
WHOEVER WINS THE REGULAR SEASON SERIES TYPICALLY HAS A MENTAL EDGE GOIN INTO PLAYOFFS.
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In the whole history of the NBA, only 2 teams have won the NBA title with lower than a 3rd seed, that's the 1969 Celtics at the 4th seed (hate them) and the 1995 Rockets with the 6th seed. And the vase majority of NBA title winners have been #1 seeds. #2 seeds have 10 titles wins and #3 seeds only have 7 titles wins. So, that means of 68 champions, 49 of them have been #1 seeds. So you can say regular season doesn't matter, the reality is that #1 seed is very important. Usually the teams that doesn't win with that #1 seed are teams that are either repeat champions in the middle of their dynasty (usually that first title the team does win as a #1 seed) or Cinderella stories like the Rockets, or 2004 Detroit Pistons. But the vase majority of the time, the winner is a #1 seed.
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In the whole history of the NBA, only 2 teams have won the NBA title with lower than a 3rd seed, that's the 1969 Celtics at the 4th seed (hate them) and the 1995 Rockets with the 6th seed. And the vase majority of NBA title winners have been #1 seeds. #2 seeds have 10 titles wins and #3 seeds only have 7 titles wins. So, that means of 68 champions, 49 of them have been #1 seeds. So you can say regular season doesn't matter, the reality is that #1 seed is very important. Usually the teams that doesn't win with that #1 seed are teams that are either repeat champions in the middle of their dynasty (usually that first title the team does win as a #1 seed) or Cinderella stories like the Rockets, or 2004 Detroit Pistons. But the vase majority of the time, the winner is a #1 seed.
REGULAR SEASON DEFINITELY MATTERS...ESPECIALLY GOIN INTO MARCH. IT'S A GIVEN.
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In the whole history of the NBA, only 2 teams have won the NBA title with lower than a 3rd seed, that's the 1969 Celtics at the 4th seed (hate them) and the 1995 Rockets with the 6th seed. And the vase majority of NBA title winners have been #1 seeds. #2 seeds have 10 titles wins and #3 seeds only have 7 titles wins. So, that means of 68 champions, 49 of them have been #1 seeds. So you can say regular season doesn't matter, the reality is that #1 seed is very important. Usually the teams that doesn't win with that #1 seed are teams that are either repeat champions in the middle of their dynasty (usually that first title the team does win as a #1 seed) or Cinderella stories like the Rockets, or 2004 Detroit Pistons. But the vase majority of the time, the winner is a #1 seed.
REGULAR SEASON DEFINITELY MATTERS...ESPECIALLY GOIN INTO MARCH. IT'S A GIVEN.
The numbers don't lie. Home court is a huge advantage. Usually teams that are repeating, like the 2001 and 2002 Lakers, or the 2005 Spurs, they can get away with being a 2 or 3 seed. But first time champions, only very rarely do they win without being a #1 seed.
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I'm not saying playing good before the playoffs doesn't matter. And I'm not saying home court advantage doesn't mean anything.
Im saying players don't treat those things with the passion they should. Even the Raptors have probably packed it in, accepted they can't catch the Hawks (given the Hawks don't lose like ten straight) for #1 and will just coast to the playoffs, try to stay healthy and will take nights off if they have to.
I'm talking strictly from a fan perspective...there might be a cool matchup here and there that will live up to the billing, but for the most part the regular season is a bunch of duds. Then even if you get a tight playoff race in the East for the 7-8 seed, those teams are almost guaranteed to get destroyed 3-1 lol.
But the Western Conference playoffs...that will be must see television.
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I'm not saying playing good before the playoffs doesn't matter. And I'm not saying home court advantage doesn't mean anything.
Im saying players don't treat those things with the passion they should. Even the Raptors have probably packed it in, accepted they can't catch the Hawks (given the Hawks don't lose like ten straight) for #1 and will just coast to the playoffs, try to stay healthy and will take nights off if they have to.
I'm talking strictly from a fan perspective...there might be a cool matchup here and there that will live up to the billing, but for the most part the regular season is a bunch of duds. Then even if you get a tight playoff race in the East for the 7-8 seed, those teams are almost guaranteed to get destroyed 3-1 lol.
But the Western Conference playoffs...that will be must see television.
And that's why teams that aren't #1 seeds usually don't make the finals. I've watched a lot of basketball, maybe too much basketball. And these dudes who coast to the playoffs also coast themselves out the playoffs.
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so put M Dogg down for a Hawks - Warriors matchup
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so put M Dogg down for a Hawks - Warriors matchup
I do have the Warriors for the Finals, but Memphis could catch them. I say who ever is #1 seed in the west and has homecourt will win the west, and the finals. But in the east, I did start with the Bulls, but I'm changing to Cleveland as my prediction.
But I do have the Warriors, I've posted that before. I think Kerr can win with them, and if Andrew Bogut can stay healthy, they have a great chance of taking it all. But in the east, I changed to the Cavs.
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will Memphis even get into round 2? they might face the Spurs round 1...
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will Memphis even get into round 2? they might face the Spurs round 1...
Will San Antonio even be healthy? The are old. If the Spurs win, they will prove the whole, you need the top seed unless you are repeat, theory.
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i think were forgetting to take into account that lebron underperforms in the playoffs and excels in the regular season
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i think were forgetting to take into account that lebron underperforms in the playoffs and excels in the regular season
he didn't underperform when he won 2 NBA finals MVP awards :laugh:
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i think were forgetting to take into account that lebron underperforms in the playoffs and excels in the regular season
he didn't underperform when he won 2 NBA finals MVP awards :laugh:
he did. he choked big time and got bailed out by ray allen. balled out in the last game when momentum began to favor miami (when he's at his best, no pressure)....first one means very little, because he faced a young oklahoma team that had no previous finals experience. heat woulda won that series with demar derozan replacing lebron.
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what happened in game 7 of that series?
how did Ray Ray do? how did Bosh do?
i didn't even have to pull the stats up because I remember so well, how well do you remember? spurs had a chance to win game 7 "brodie" :laugh:
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that's why i said when momentum was in miamis favor, that's when he finally showed up .... lebron plays just fine in those situations.
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that's why i said when momentum was in miamis favor, that's when he finally showed up .... lebron plays just fine in those situations.
lmao
brodie
lebron destroyed them in game 7. the spurs had 48 minutes to do something about it.
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Officiating in the Kings series, Shaq's existence, Derek Fisher, Robert Horry & Pau Gasol in Game 7 of the second series with Boston was bail out more than enough lmfao.
No single player wins championships. It's been documented. Teams win.
Just hurts your already nonexistent credibility lol.
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laker fans LOVE to hate on Stern for the CP3 reversal but NEVER want to recognize the Kings series smh
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laker fans LOVE to hate on Stern for the CP3 reversal but NEVER want to recognize the Kings series smh
But.Horry's three though. Amazing moment.
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lebron underperforms when pressure is on....what is so hard to accept about this? he just gets nervous and passive in the clutch. theres no way around it. like i said, after 2012's cakewalk through the weakass eastern conference playoffs, he won that first ring in an gimme of a series vs. an inexperienced OKC team playin in their first and last finals...and like i said, he completely let the cavs down vs the spurs until an epic choke-job by the spurs and a miracle shot by ray allen caused the entire script to be flipped.....that perfect storm pretty much masked how bad he underperformed prior to game 7. it's not the same as kobe carrying a team throughout a series and then depending on pau for a play or two. sad that u cant take the blinders off and see the difference between the 2.
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We're also dealing with a nigga who calls triple doubles in the Finals "underperforming".
Guy defends 25% shooting in a Game 7 by saying, Kobe got boards. Can you imagine the posts we'd get if LeBron shot 25% in a Game 7 win or lose? Lmao.
But we won't know because we get this in Game 7...37, 12 and 4 on over 50% shooting...BUT WAIT...it gets better, homeboy has some strange ass crafted response to make arguably the greatest Finals performance just disappear.
Troll. Homer. Zero credibility. The forum sees you.
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We're also dealing with a nigga who calls triple doubles in the Finals "underperforming".
Guy defends 25% shooting in a Game 7 by saying, Kobe got boards. Can you imagine the posts we'd get if LeBron shot 25% in a Game 7 win or lose? Lmao.
But we won't know because we get this in Game 7...37, 12 and 4 on over 50% shooting...BUT WAIT...it gets better, homeboy has some strange ass crafted response to make arguably the greatest Finals performance just disappear.
Troll. Homer. Zero credibility. The forum sees you.
u just guna sit here and ignore the fact that we were all on here laughing at how shook lebron looked 5 games into the series? LOLSMH
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Game 1 was the "under performing" triple double lmao.
Game 2 was a "crappy" 17, 8 & 7 in a 20 point win lmao.
Game 3 he played poorly.
Game 4 was 33, 11 & 4 in a double digit win lmao.
Game 5 was 25, 6 & 8 in a game where all five Spurs starters almost has 20 points each lmao.
Game 6...triple double lmfao.
Game 7...greatest Game 7 ever LMFAO.
I feel bad Kobe is retiring. All you gonna have left after next season is hour & hours of formulating arguments to somehow defend him.
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We're also dealing with a nigga who calls triple doubles in the Finals "underperforming".
Guy defends 25% shooting in a Game 7 by saying, Kobe got boards. Can you imagine the posts we'd get if LeBron shot 25% in a Game 7 win or lose? Lmao.
But we won't know because we get this in Game 7...37, 12 and 4 on over 50% shooting...BUT WAIT...it gets better, homeboy has some strange ass crafted response to make arguably the greatest Finals performance just disappear.
Troll. Homer. Zero credibility. The forum sees you.
LOL!
Ron artest saved Kobe's ass too
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Game 1 was the "under performing" triple double lmao.
Game 2 was a "crappy" 17, 8 & 7 in a 20 point win lmao.
Game 3 he played poorly.
Game 4 was 33, 11 & 4 in a double digit win lmao.
Game 5 was 25, 6 & 8 in a game where all five Spurs starters almost has 20 points each lmao.
Game 6...triple double lmfao.
Game 7...greatest Game 7 ever LMFAO.
I feel bad Kobe is retiring. All you gonna have left after next season is hour & hours of formulating arguments to somehow defend him.
dude he failed to score 20 points in the first 3 games and was averaging 28 ppg in the regular season....how do u have the nerve to flip that into a positive? i guarantee that if we pull up posts from that series, even u were questionin lebron goin into game 6. and not just you, search online...there were articles about that shit comin left n right, how diaw was guarding him 1-on-1 with a 5 foot cushion, how lebron was chokin once again, etc. etc. it was indisputably embarrassing up until the headband fell off. but go ahead and re-write history based on lebron padding his stats in lost games.
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triple doubles = good no matter how much you score
how can someone argue that?
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triple doubles = good no matter how much you score
how can someone argue that?
Pretty simply when you're biased beyond human comprehension.
Either that or doesn't understand basketball. That Pop set up the defense forcing other people to win the game. Son was catching doubles & triples in the post. Smh.
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triple doubles = good no matter how much you score
how can someone argue that?
how is it good if your team loses because a lack of scoring?
lol...once again, lebron changiz aka the stat padder fools the casual basketball fan
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triple doubles = good no matter how much you score
how can someone argue that?
Pretty simply when you're biased beyond human comprehension.
Either that or doesn't understand basketball. That Pop set up the defense forcing other people to win the game. Son was catching doubles & triples in the post. Smh.
again, not true....was being guarded 1-on-1 with a 5 foot cushion by boris fuckin diaw bruh. let that sink in.
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again
LOL @ a triple double being a bad thing
"THEY NEEDED SCORING"
as if the 10+ assists don't help with that shit? LMAO
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Cavs WArriors is a dope game
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again
LOL @ a triple double being a bad thing
"THEY NEEDED SCORING"
as if the 10+ assists don't help with that shit? LMAO
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lol now he's quoting hack cuz he cant come up wit his own shit....if ur team depends on u to score, and u lose because u scored 10 points under your average, then that constitutes as a bad game.......the whole thing about LeBron was that he folds under pressure and becomes too PASSive. now what happens when u become too passive? simple ass ficcaz, i swear.
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Quoting Hack because you don't understand that if he gets more assists than he averages, that's points he's responsible for.
We're also talking about a series where he won the ring. He didn't lose. So critiquing a Game 1 triple double in a series he won, where in Game 6 and Game 7 he had better numbers than your boy ever had in the Finals is silly.
Just like it didn't matter Kobe almost shot the Lakers out of 2010 in Game 7.
Or scored 2 points in Game 2 of 2000...that came following 14 points in Game 1...Let's not forget Game 4 of that series lmfao.
Or a mere 21 in Game 2 of 2008...but he lost that series so that's a choke job.
Game 1 2001...52 minutes wow, impressive...33% shooting, 15 points, 6 turnovers.
2004, pivotal Game 3...4/13...11 points. The Game 4 was even more of a tragedy...zero boards. Pretty much lost them that game. What a choke. 😂😂😂
No numbers compared to LeBron Game 7 2013 in his best either.
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lebron with another MVP type game last night :D
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lebron with another MVP type game last night :D
Regular season only matters when Kobe scores 61 at the Garden.
Then later in the week when LeBron puts up a more impressive 52 with a triple-double at the Garden, the regular stops mattering.
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this is very true
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Regular season matters when you don't win titles. Once you win titles, then teams develop that switch and they can turn it on when needed. But just to be clear, it really matters in the regular season when you score 81, that's what matter most. And I'm being serious, because only Wilt Chamberlain scored more in a game.
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Quoting Hack because you don't understand that if he gets more assists than he averages, that's points he's responsible for.
We're also talking about a series where he won the ring. He didn't lose. So critiquing a Game 1 triple double in a series he won, where in Game 6 and Game 7 he had better numbers than your boy ever had in the Finals is silly.
Just like it didn't matter Kobe almost shot the Lakers out of 2010 in Game 7.
Or scored 2 points in Game 2 of 2000...that came following 14 points in Game 1...Let's not forget Game 4 of that series lmfao.
Or a mere 21 in Game 2 of 2008...but he lost that series so that's a choke job.
Game 1 2001...52 minutes wow, impressive...33% shooting, 15 points, 6 turnovers.
2004, pivotal Game 3...4/13...11 points. The Game 4 was even more of a tragedy...zero boards. Pretty much lost them that game. What a choke. 😂😂😂
No numbers compared to LeBron Game 7 2013 in his best either.
ur graspin at straws now...the three first games in the series, lebron scored 10 points or less under his average. he was obviously shook. we all know kobe doesnt get shook, so i duno why u tryin so hard to prove somethin when theres nothin there.
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lmao "obviously shook" by putting up triple doubles
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LOL. I named seven games Kobe played like absolute shit, kid completely ignores them like they were never typed.
Could probably find seven more if I really wanted to.
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remember when he was on that "lebron only has half a ring because they missed 16 games due to a lockout" shit?
as if he'd discredit that ring if Kobe won it :laugh:
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There's no point to even discuss it with the kid.
It's just too funny to throw stats in his face & watch him scramble.
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Cavs are without Irving AND the mvp tonight
wonder if they win
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what a great day for NBA games
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what a great day for NBA games
Yeah, if you factor out Griffin, Rose, Durant, Kobe, Dwight, Kyrie, Paul George, Anthony Davis & Cousins are all out lol.
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CLUTCH
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Free throws, the muthaphukka missed free throws.
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lololol, regular season.
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lololol, regular season.
didn't I post how much I value the regular season and why? I did didn't I? So you know what that means, THIS COUNTS! LeBron, former best player in the world. Missed free throws when it counted and lost.
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He's not top ten lol.
But seriously, the only thing yesterday made me realize is that NIK has been on point about James Harden all along. He plays basketball like an absolute pussy.
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He's not top ten lol.
But seriously, the only thing yesterday made me realize is that NIK has been on point about James Harden all along. He plays basketball like an absolute pussy.
Never said he isn't top 10. But he sure isn't #1 anymore either.
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I said he's not top ten. I'd take Langston Galloway over him.
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I said he's not top ten. I'd take Langston Galloway over him.
LeBron?
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wonder when irv gets back
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I said he's not top ten. I'd take Langston Galloway over him.
LeBron?
LBJ.
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I said he's not top ten. I'd take Langston Galloway over him.
LeBron?
LBJ.
So you have Langston Galloway over LeBron James? Interesting.
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After the other night? Clearly.
Wake me up in May.
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lebron actually excels in the regular season...so i'd hate to see how poorly he performs in the post-season.
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I don't know, but after this post season, the LeBron bandwagon could be pretty empty, except in Ohio of course.
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I don't know, but after this post season, the LeBron bandwagon could be pretty empty, except in Ohio of course.
yeah, everyone is going to jump off the band wagon after the Cavs beat the Warriors in the finals :laugh:
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About to make his fifth straight Finals.
Kobe never did it.
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Lebron never threepeated
and never will
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Scott Williamson "three peated"
he must be as good as Kobe now
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lololol, regular season.
didn't I post how much I value the regular season and why? I did didn't I? So you know what that means, THIS COUNTS! LeBron, former best player in the world. Missed free throws when it counted and lost.
Actually in the last few minutes of the game, the whole team kept bricking & lost. They actually played like I do in basketball :( Couldn't buy a bucket, kinda like when the clippers played at houston last week.
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Scott Williamson "three peated"
he must be as good as Kobe now
ficca he might be
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About to make his fifth straight Finals.
Kobe never did it.
Although, Kobe has been in 7 finals. So the question remains, could LeBron have gone to 4 straight finals if he was in the west? I mean the east was so weak, even in Kobe's early days, that Kobe and Shaq were going through the Spurs, the Kings, the Blazers, the Mavs, only to face off against the Pacers, Sixers and Nets. All of them wouldn't have made it past the 2nd round in the west. Same problem today. The Cavs might make it out the 1st round, but the second round? Nope.
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Hypotheticals are silly though. Could Kobe have won without Shaq? Without Phil? Without stealing Pau Gasol? If the NBA didn't fix Game 6 in 2002?
We'll never know. The road would be harder in the West, but there's no way of saying LeBron couldn't have won.
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lebron would be still lookin for his first ring if he played in the west
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Hypotheticals are silly though. Could Kobe have won without Shaq? Without Phil? Without stealing Pau Gasol? If the NBA didn't fix Game 6 in 2002?
We'll never know. The road would be harder in the West, but there's no way of saying LeBron couldn't have won.
You are sort of right, but in this case you can't use this argument. I've always contended that it's the team that wins, not the player. The star player can choke in clutch moments, see Peyton Manning or LeBron's early days. But teams win titles and teammates can lift up a star player when the star can't or wouldn't make the big play. Like Robert Horry or Derek Fisher. So there are many variable s to winning. With that said, LeBron has played his whole career in a weakened eastern conference. It's one thing to say, oh you can't say what if, what if, what if.
But no one thinks Rocky Marciano is better than Muhammad Ali, even though Marciano never lost a fight. No one will ever say Wladimir Klitschko is better than Mike Tyson, even though Klischiko has a better record. Why? Because Tyson and Ali both fought in eras with better boxers. Both had to go against the best of the best. Ali fought in the best era of boxing history, and Tyson fought in the 90's against the kids of those who looked up to Ali and Frazier. Aside from the World War II era with Joe Louis, Tyson dominated one of the best eras in boxing. With team sports, no one is really in the conversation of greatest basketball player of all time, because the most difficult period to win was the 80's and 90's. And in that era, eventually Jordan dominated some of the greatest players to ever lace up high tops. LeBron's legacy as we speak, he'll be a first ballot hall of famer, but he'll be full of more questions than answers. What if he never went to Miami, what if he stayed in Miami, could he have made the finals as many times as he did if he was in the west? Those questions will linger over his legacy. He'll be the best player from 2011-2015, the Heatles will be a ESPN 30 for 30 one year, but he wouldn't be up there with Jordan or Magic or even Kobe. He'll be in that next tier, Dr. J, Elgin Baylor, Hakeem. I mean, don't get me wrong, that's an amazing place to be, but LeBron was suppose to be the next evolution of Michael Jordan.
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=311148.msg3007946#msg3007946
Always remember who compared LeBron to Dr. J first.
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huge game for Cleveland tonight
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I think you're buggin', MDogg lol.
You're being really generous saying "Jordan dominated the greatest to ever lace them up". He played Magic at the end of his career, played some good competition in the NBA Finals, but the East wasn't crazy for Jordan back then either. His biggest rival was like Clyde Drexler. Nothing away from Clyde, incredible basketball player, but there's definitely a handful of guys in the NBA right now who will be viewed as better than Clyde Drexler given they play a healthy, full career. And who are these elite perimeter defends guarding him? The biggest shot of his career Craig Ehlo was on him lol. He played with the best defender in Scottie. You're giving Jordan a pass on the competition he played against because 1. It's Jordan & he just has this aura of the perfect career. 2. Because it's been 15 years & you saw how the rest of the players of the era turned out in the eyes of history. LeBron's career trajectory is similar to Jordan's, you just can't see it for another decade or so. Early on, he established himself as the best player in the league, like Jordan, but didn't have the surrounding cast to compete with the Pistons or the Spurs, or the Celtics, like Jordan for his first few years. Then he got a squad, like Jordan & started winning. Now those teams that were too good for his old Cavs early on are all gone & the new kids are coming up. Now like Jordan around this age, he's got to beat the league that's in front of him. & right now you can say it's "weak", but like I said, ten years from now you'll look at the career of a KD, Anthony Davis, Steph, etc. & be like damn, Bron beat some great fucking players...if he wins. That's all it comes down to now, he's got to put up at least three more rings.
I just think it's silly you automatically act like Jordan & Kobe have no "what if" questions because it's convenient for your argument. You can't downplay Shaq. Shaq was the reason they threepeated. He won Finals MVP all three times. How does that not "linger" over Kobe's career? Then Phil & Shaq leave & Kobe can't do better than .500? Needed Phil back with by far the most dominating roster in the NBA other than the Celtics.
The tiers you mentioned are strictly ring based, which like I said is how LeBron will go down. He doesn't win, he'll just be viewed as the greatest player of the generation. He wins 2-3-4 more, he's the greatest of all-time.
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Hypotheticals are silly though. Could Kobe have won without Shaq? Without Phil? Without stealing Pau Gasol? If the NBA didn't fix Game 6 in 2002?
We'll never know. The road would be harder in the West, but there's no way of saying LeBron couldn't have won.
You are sort of right, but in this case you can't use this argument. I've always contended that it's the team that wins, not the player. The star player can choke in clutch moments, see Peyton Manning or LeBron's early days. But teams win titles and teammates can lift up a star player when the star can't or wouldn't make the big play. Like Robert Horry or Derek Fisher. So there are many variable s to winning. With that said, LeBron has played his whole career in a weakened eastern conference. It's one thing to say, oh you can't say what if, what if, what if.
But no one thinks Rocky Marciano is better than Muhammad Ali, even though Marciano never lost a fight. No one will ever say Wladimir Klitschko is better than Mike Tyson, even though Klischiko has a better record. Why? Because Tyson and Ali both fought in eras with better boxers. Both had to go against the best of the best. Ali fought in the best era of boxing history, and Tyson fought in the 90's against the kids of those who looked up to Ali and Frazier. Aside from the World War II era with Joe Louis, Tyson dominated one of the best eras in boxing. With team sports, no one is really in the conversation of greatest basketball player of all time, because the most difficult period to win was the 80's and 90's. And in that era, eventually Jordan dominated some of the greatest players to ever lace up high tops. LeBron's legacy as we speak, he'll be a first ballot hall of famer, but he'll be full of more questions than answers. What if he never went to Miami, what if he stayed in Miami, could he have made the finals as many times as he did if he was in the west? Those questions will linger over his legacy. He'll be the best player from 2011-2015, the Heatles will be a ESPN 30 for 30 one year, but he wouldn't be up there with Jordan or Magic or even Kobe. He'll be in that next tier, Dr. J, Elgin Baylor, Hakeem. I mean, don't get me wrong, that's an amazing place to be, but LeBron was suppose to be the next evolution of Michael Jordan.
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=311148.msg3007946#msg3007946
Always remember who compared LeBron to Dr. J first.
jordan got shitted on in the 80s...like cham said, it was only till the greats were out their prime that he started winning. i see what ur sayin tho. but dr. j > lebron.
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Lebron just passed Ray Allen in scoring
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Cavs are on NBA TV tonight against the Suns
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Kevin Love off to a nice start
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Suns are garbage
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suns and bucks both got exceptionally worse after the trade deadline
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guess the Celtics might as well make the playoffs at this point
8 seed is looking easy to climb to unless paul george comes back
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Amare mad after losing last night lol
shoulda went to Cleveland brodie
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great win for the Cavs last night
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Cavs - Clippers is gonna be a nice finals
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Kyrie went in. :o
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Cavs are on fiyah
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Mosgov is turning into a top 5 center in the league playing with these guys
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LOL
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nik is jelly of the cavs
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demarcus cousins
marc gasol
al horford
deandre jordan
andre drummond
joakim noah
nikola vucevic
hassan whiteside
rudy gobert
marcin gortat
jonas valencuinis
kenneth farried
omer asik
andrew bogut
nikola pekovic
brook lopez
al jefferson
enes kanter
nerlens noel
should i keep goin?
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:laugh:
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demarcus cousins
marc gasol
al horford
deandre jordan
andre drummond
joakim noah
nikola vucevic
hassan whiteside
rudy gobert
marcin gortat
jonas valencuinis
kenneth farried
omer asik
andrew bogut
nikola pekovic
brook lopez
al jefferson
enes kanter
nerlens noel
should i keep goin?
You just feed the troll.
Ignore that man, he is tripping.
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Mosgav is a beast
11 and 7 as a 5th scoring option
M dogg, go back to your Obama rallies
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Mosgav is a beast
11 and 7 as a 5th scoring option
M dogg, go back to your Obama rallies
Aww, I'll leave it at this. He ain't as good a Jeremy Lin during Linsanity. He hit a mild hit streak and now we'll see off he continues in the playoffs or fade.
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comparing a center to a PG?
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cavs @ nets tonight
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bron is droppin bombs
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LOL
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Lakers lost again today....no surprise there :laugh:
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and Lowry wasn't even playing
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Lakers lost again today....no surprise there :laugh:
thats good news bruh 8)
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The Cleveland Cavaliers suffered a tough 106-98 loss to the Brooklyn Nets on Friday night, and they apparently weren't too happy with one fan at the Barclays Center.
Mr. Whammy, the 79-year-old Nets superfan known for standing behind the basket and creating a ruckus while opponents shoot free throws, was asked to return to his seat on Friday, according to Mitch Abramson of the New York Daily News.
Bruce Reznick, the superfan, claimed Nets CEO Brett Yormark asked him to move back, saying:
"He said, ‘Do me a favor, please move back so that NBA security doesn’t throw you out. LeBron is a crybaby. I know it was him that asked the security to make me move. He doesn’t like that I make him miss. He thinks he’s more powerful than anyone in the NBA."
Per Abramson, an NBA security official confirmed that the Cavaliers requested Mr. Whammy return to his seat. When asked if he was the one to make the request, however, LeBron declined to comment:
"Asked after the game if he instructed security to remove Mr. Whammy, James — who had 24 points and nine assists — stared blankly at a reporter as he iced both feet in a small container before a Cavs official fired off, "Next question."
Fans try to distract free-throw shooters all the time, but the fact that Mr. Whammy was asked to return to his seat must mean whatever he's doing is working.
:laugh:
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cavs beat philly
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no Cavs game tonight
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No,LeBron James isn't best friends with Kevin Love. And yes, that's perfectly OK.
As media and fans try to split hairs over the uncertain chemistry between James and his new Cleveland Cavaliers teammate, LeBron isn't making any bones about it: They aren't best friends.
But that's not a diss.
"First of all, I’ve got three very good friends in this league, and that’s Carmelo [Anthony], and that’s C.P. [Chris Paul], and that’s D-Wade," James said, according to Cleveland.com. "And after that I have a bunch of teammates. I have guys I ride for every day."
James' comments were partially in response to Love saying that he and James weren't best friends. In that case, too, Love downplayed the implications of that non-friendship, saying that they got along as teammates.
James agrees that the friendship component of their relationship doesn't determine their on-court success.
"Kyrie [Irving] is a guy I understand how important he is to this team, how important he is," James said. "And the same with [Kevin] as well."
Earlier this month, Love said that his former UCLA teammate and current Oklahoma City Thunder star, Russell Westbrook, would be his pick for MVP. That rubbed some observers the wrong way, who saw it as a slight that he didn't pick his own teammate in James.
Again, James shrugged off those comments and said he didn't take them personally. And while it's true that their personal relationship has nothing to do with their on-court success and title aspirations, one can't help but wonder what it says about the long-term stability of the current Cavs roster.
Then again, James did ditch his self-proclaimed best friend this summer when he left Miami and Wade to play in Cleveland. Maybe it really is all about basketball.
(http://images.thepostgame.com/sites/default/files/1459433978_0.jpg)
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Last week on Bill Don’t Lie, Tom Haberstroh and Bill Simmons spoke about the rapid increase of 3-point shooting in the NBA. These days, it’s a common conversation topic around the league, and it should be: The rise of the 3 is the most tangible element of NBA basketball’s rapid evolution. But to increase the number of 3s, you also have to take something away. Today, we also find ourselves in the midst of an unprecedented 2-point recession, and you can see its fingerprints on everything from where guys stand on the court to free-agency valuations to player development.
(https://espngrantland.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/graph1_1152.jpg?w=694)
Perhaps no single player symbolizes the league’s new inside-out economy more than Kevin Love. Just a few years ago, we billed Love as the NBA’s next great Hall of Fame power forward. He was a top-10 player who could post up on the block, score in the paint, rebound like Charles Barkley, and fire outlet passes that would make Wes Unseld blush. Then a funny thing happened on the way to Springfield: Love’s game began to shift and instead of continuing to perfect the offensive tools of the conventional power forward, he transformed into arguably the most overqualified spot-up shooter in the league.
Whether by design or accident, when the NBA Competition Committee implemented the 3-point line in the 1979-80 season, it began a process that eventually ushered us into a brave new hoops world where conventional power forwards are less useful than ever. As more teams take advantage of the 3-point line, a second low-post presence is now recognized as inefficient and anathema to spacing. And while there’s no shortage of think pieces on what is wrong with Kevin Love, it’s hard to find lamentations for how the league’s boundless appetite for 3s is forever cheapening traditional forms of basketball practice and luring more and more bigs away from the blocks. Despite recent comments suggesting a desire to do otherwise, Love has embraced the recent perimeter-oriented trends of basketball philosophy, but by doing so, he can’t function as the multi-purpose, ball-dominant, inside-out post presence he once looked well on his way to becoming. So maybe the current Love saga, in which he’s now a third wheel rather than a third star to LeBron James and Kyrie Irving, has just as much to do with a young power forward trying to keep pace with massive shifts in how the league approaches offense as it does with a guy trying to fit in in Cleveland.
(https://espngrantland.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/loveevolution_1152.jpg?w=694)
During his rookie season, Love rarely strayed beyond the arc, as only 3 percent of his shots came from out there — compared to 40 percent this season. Lest you think this is entirely symptomatic of his place in the Cleveland offense, last year as an alpha dog in Minnesota, Love took 36 percent of his shots from downtown. Like fellow 4s Serge Ibaka and Chris Bosh, he has greatly increased his 3-point diet since entering the league.
(https://espngrantland.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/graph2_576.jpg?w=694)
In concert with the move away from the hoop, Love’s offensive rebounding percentage has declined every year he’s been in the league. And now his shot chart looks less like Karl Malone’s and more like Chandler Parsons’s:
The new “pace and space” era has produced some beautiful basketball, but those pleasing aesthetics come at a cost: The game’s most traditionally dominant players are being asked to kindly get out of the way and make room for the new breed of drive-and-kick attackers who now function as the engines of our contemporary scoring economies.
To quote another prodigy who used to live in Minnesota:
Don’t stand in the doorway, don’t block up the hall
There’s a battle outside [the arc] and it’s raging.
For the times they are a-changin’
Just as circumstances in the 1960s demanded Bob Dylan to be more than just the next Woody Guthrie, the current NBA is asking Love and his cohort of young bigs to do things that Barkley and Malone didn’t do. In 2015, Love is the spokesman of the stretch-4 generation and he’s going electric out beyond the 3-point meridian.
But while pace and space is unquestionably fun to watch, it’s time for the NBA Competition Committee to at least ask the question: How far do we let this go?
Let’s consider Anthony Davis, who’s not only the best power forward on the planet but is poised to soon become the best player in the world. Davis can already seemingly do everything on a basketball court, but the scary part is that at 22 years old, his game is still developing. As I watched Davis play against the Rockets last week, my friend Mason Ginsberg, who writes about the Pelicans for True Hoop, suggested that Davis, a power forward with a strong jumper, would be shooting a lot more 3s next season. That’s when it occurred to me: I’ve had enough. I don’t want Anthony Davis shooting 3s. I don’t want him to mimic Kevin Love’s outward migrations. No, I want him showcasing his alien talents much closer to the basket.
Hundreds of NBA players can be catch-and-shoot guys beyond the arc, but only one player in the league can do the things Davis does inside of it. When a phenom such as A.D. becomes incentivized to act more like Steve Novak than like Hakeem Olajuwon, something’s broken. Yet, given the current rule structure, that’s exactly what Davis should do.
So how could we ensure the kind of variety that allows both the 3-point specialist and the on-the-block magician to exist effectively within the same NBA? Here’s a thought experiment:
Imagine if NBA teams could decide whether or not to have the 3-point line in their home gym. The Grizzlies wouldn’t have it, and neither would the Pacers, while the Warriors, who play spectacular basketball, definitely would have it. But how would Golden State fare when it had to play at Memphis or Indiana, on a floor where a 24-foot shot is no longer magically worth 150 percent as much as a 21-foot shot?
Golden State has built a near-perfect offensive machine for the 2014-15 season. They rank second in the league in offensive efficiency, thanks to the second-most 3-point production and league-leading 3-point shooting efficiency. However, this splendid machine commonly depends on guys like Harrison Barnes and Draymond Green playing the respective roles of power forward and center — not exactly the low-post pairings of Malone and Mark Eaton or Kevin McHale and Robert Parish. According to positional estimates on Basketball-Reference, Barnes logged just 13 percent of his minutes at power forward during his rookie season in 2012-13; this year, 87 percent of his minutes come as a 4. And yet, like Love, Barnes shoots a ton of 3s.
Now, don’t get me wrong: The 3-point line has undoubtedly facilitated the rises of aesthetically grand performers like Stephen Curry, Damian Lillard, and Klay Thompson — all perimeter geniuses and among the most valuable assets in the league. But while the line has elevated the value of backcourt snipers, it’s slowly squeezed out a certain type of player who made his living close to the hoop with patience, power, and all kinds of tight-space footwork. Today’s power forwards have been forced to play the position in a way that only barely resembles their ancestors. In fact, as we’re seeing with Love, they’re playing in a way that barely resembles earlier incarnations of themselves.
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http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2015/03/lebron_james_kevin_love_kyrie.html
CLEVELAND - Eons ago in this NBA season and in a place far, far away from Cleveland (it was Utah), Kyrie Irving poured in 34 points.
That night, on Nov. 5, the Cavaliers fell to the Jazz 102-100 on Gordon Hayward's buzzer beater. LeBron James scored 31 and added four assists, but lost Hayward when he tripped trying to fight through a screen to guard on the final play.
After the game, James wasn't thinking about the loss or about that last defensive breakdown. He was miffed that Irving scored all those points without registering a single assist.
"He came up to me and was like, 'One, you can never have another game with no assists,' " Irving said, describing James' words. " 'You can damn near have just one, two, three, but you can't have zero.' And I was like, 'All right, cool, it won't happen again.' And it hasn't happened since that game."
For Cavs fans wondering why it seems James and the other member of Cleveland's Big Three, Kevin Love, continue to struggle to get on the same page -- take note. James and Irving were there once, too.
This is the story of how James and Irving overcame their differences and transformed into one of the NBA's most menacing duos.
"Friends or no friends, at the end of the day we're all here to do one thing, and that's to win," James said to the Northeast Ohio Media Group. Both James and Irving granted separate, exclusive interviews to discuss their months of building on and off-court relationships that are so vital to Cleveland's postseason success.
Since that night in Utah, Irving has delivered the top two scoring games in the NBA this season - a 55-point barrage on Jan. 28; and 57 against San Antonio on March 12. The latter broke James' franchise record for points in a game.
James leads the Cavaliers with 25.7 ppg, but he is also their top assist man with 7.3 per game. Cleveland, which was 19-20 at one point, is now firmly in control of second place in the East with an eye on the franchise's first Finals appearance since 2007 - when Irving was 15 years old.
James and Irving have also become friends away from basketball, making plans to hang after games and being spotted together in a swank Miami nightclub.
Juxtapose that with Love, who last week on two national talk shows said he and James were "not best friends" and he picked Oklahoma City's Russell Westbrook instead of James for MVP.
For all the awkwardness Love's comments seemed to generate -- don't forget, James took a not-so-veiled swipe at Love on Twitter in February for not being more of a team player -- Irving was once in a similar spot with James.
And you can trace it at least back to early November, one night before Irving's 34-point, zero-assist performance against the Jazz.
Two views of the same ball
On Nov. 3, the Cavs lost by 19 to Portland. James, so disgusted with Irving and with Dion Waiters (who's since been traded) for jacking up shots without trying to build a rhythm offensively, stood idly in the corner in the second half and let his team flounder.
Afterward, James said the Cavs had developed "bad habits" from four years of losing while he was in Miami. It was abundantly clear which teammates he was speaking about.
"I don't want to say it's not been rocky at all," Irving said. "Obviously, he sees the game one way, I see the game another way. What makes it great about being on the team is that we both can see it together in our own way."
Irving knew that James had a point in Portland, and again in Utah - that winning basketball required ball movement. But Irving also believed that merely deferring to James as the primary option on offense wasn't necessarily fair to Irving's own considerable skills as a scorer, or to what Love or the other Cavs could bring to the table.
"Coming in this season, when you have a guy like that who plays the one, two, and three positions (like James), some games are going to be that way," Irving said. "I feel like that's the biggest thing we've built is we're starting to trust one another more. It took time."
James was 29 at the season's outset, and a four-time NBA MVP with two titles who had played the role of distributor before. He did it when he shared the floor on all those Finals-bound Miami teams with Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh.
But James came to Cleveland with the stated goals of leading a young team to prominence. He expected Irving to initiate the offense and challenged him to do so in September. He wasn't necessarily expecting to defer to someone seven years his junior.
R-E-S-P-E-C-T
Of all the reasons why James left South Beach to return to the Cavs, he said Irving's presence as the team's point guard was one of the attractions.
"I knew how special he was, just competing against him," James said.
Irving, 22 at the time, was already a two-time All-Star when James arrived. By December, Nike would launch Irving's own signature basketball shoe, joining James among the few NBA players with their own Nike line.
Irving had just inked a five-year, $90 million contract extension with the Cavs, so James knew he'd have a bona fide, top-tier point guard on his side for years in Cleveland. He'd never had that before.
"He didn't have much experience as far as what we were trying to accomplish at the beginning of the season," James said. "I wanted him to kind of learn on the fly, give him bits and pieces of what was going to be ahead of him."
Irving had a bit of a "me-first" mentality -- he acknowledges this -- and James realized Irving was unaccustomed to playing as the favorite each night.
The second part -- playing when you're expected to win -- is the price of playing on a team with James. Success wasn't possible, though, without addressing the former.
So James not only spoke openly about "bad habits," but he compared his teammates to "my kids" after a November win over Boston.
James wasn't talking about Cavs like James Jones and Mike Miller, whom he had won titles with in Miami; or Anderson Varejao, his teammate for years in Cleveland before his Miami tenure.
"Throughout the course of the season, you know what guys can take and what guys can't take," James said. "His approach has changed tremendously."
Irving, of course, had a baseline of respect for James from the start. He called James "basically a living hall of famer," and said he knew he had to earn James' respect and trust.
Irving thought he could win over James by showing him his work ethic at practice and by, yes, changing his attitude.
"LeBron's view of things has changed because it's no longer, he's not looking across the locker room and asking, 'Does this guy have my back?' or, 'Is this guy my brother?' " Irving said. "When we came into the locker room last year, it would probably be about the performance I had, in a selfish way. Because, you know, you become a losing team, you build bad habits."
An age thing
The Cavs strung together winning streaks of four and eight games in November and December, but James was still far from comfortable with the new team.
One of the reasons for James' discomfort was something that caught a little off guard.
Mitigating the age difference between him and Irving, him and Love (26), and some of the others was a real challenge for him.
"It's very different, because myself, Chris, and D-Wade, we came up together," James said. "We all was drafted in the same draft class, and even though we didn't pair up until seven years into our careers, we were damn near the same age and we all had seen the league as it evolved and transformed in different ways. We all grew up together."
Irving was 11 years old in James' rookie season of 2003. As James said, "You have to understand sometimes like 'Oh, they don't even remember that Ray Allen was a driver and a dunker and a slasher.' All they remember is Ray Allen as a 3-point shooter.
"Things of that nature kind of gets into your head," James said.
The age difference is why Irving doesn't like comparisons between Cleveland's Big Three and what James had in Miami. But Irving also thought he could help James get over the gap by proving he had an old soul.
Irving thought James would come to view him as someone he could learn from, too, despite James' relative wealth of experience. Irving said he proved his point, which is why he said age is no longer a factor between them.
"It doesn't matter that he's older. I've been playing against older guys my whole entire life," Irving said. "I mean, I played with my dad in New York City against older guys all the time. I feel like I have an old-school game, I do things people probably think a 23 year old shouldn't know or do.
"And I'm just like, I have that in my game from my dad and from working hard. And LeBron has a lot of things that he has developed, and I want to learn, too."
Turning point
When it finally happened, when James visibly warmed to Irving, isn't exactly clear.
James congratulated his "brother" for making the All-Star game in February - that's a far cry from grouping Irving in with his "kids."
On the morning of Jan. 15, at a team shootaround at UCLA before a road game against the Lakers, James pulled Irving and Love aside to tell them the Cavs would go as far as the three would take them.
The Cavs won that night, and on the next 11 game nights. They've amassed an NBA-best 28-7 record since Jan. 15. James is averaging 25.9 points, 7.1 assists and 6.4 boards in that stretch; Irving's right there with 23.1 points and 5.1 assists.
"When Kyrie is in scoring-mentality mode where he has it going, I want to continue to be the guy to go to him and to set it up, because I could always be engaged in the game, whether I'm scoring or not," James said. "So to have a guy like that who can go off for 50 on any given night is definitely a luxury."
During that same time frame, Love is averaging 15.1 points and 9.6 rebounds, shooting 43 percent. For the season, Love's averaging 16 points and 10 boards - excellent numbers for a team's third option.
But Love's not used to being a third option. He averaged 26 points for Minnesota last season, and he has $16.7 million player option in his contract for next season that he could forgo to become a free agent.
So after Love's occasional, public grumblings about struggling to fit in offensively with James and Irving, and James' responses to those grumblings, on March 22 a picture surfaced on social media of James, Irving, and some Cavs teammates posing after a win over Milwaukee.
Love wasn't in the picture. And then he gave those interviews, offering insight into what was already apparent -- his lacking, off-court relationship with James.
"People get so infatuated with the best of friends, things of that nature," James said. "First of all, I've got three very good friends in this league, and that's Carmelo (Anthony), and that's C.P. (Chris Paul), and that's D-Wade. And after that I have a bunch of teammates. I have guys I ride for every day.
"But Kyrie is a guy I understand how important he is to this team, how important he is. And the same with Kev as well."
Love may never get to where James and Irving are now as friends. Both James and Love agreed that whether or not that ever happens isn't important - it's if the Cavs win that matters.
But James and Irving are only where they are now as friends because they built a rapport on the court. And that's what James wants with Love.
"In order for us to reach our potential, the Big Three has to be big," James said. "And it can't just be Kyrie one night, me one night, and Kev. We all have to be clicking at the same time in order for us to be successful."
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http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/03/30/another-timofey-mozgov-local-commercial-another-timofey-mozgov-local-commercial/
Mozgov getting his endorsements ;D
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http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/page/Anniversary-Top20Athletes/20th-anniversary-top-20-athletes?ex_cid=espnTW
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King JAmes with a triple double today
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18 straight wins at home for Cleveland
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The Cavs are far from inspiring, yet still the best team in the East. If a young team like the Warriors makes it to the Finals, the Cavs might even beat them, because nervous hands don't shoot the 3 too well. The Cavs are far from amazing, but I wouldn't be too surprised if they win the 2015 title.
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cavs gonna win and make kevin love have to stay
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Cavs have the #2 seed sewed up so Lebron may sit both games against Boston!
http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fantasybasketball/update/25141544/report-cavs-lebron-james-hits-he-could-sit-out-next-two-games
Thank you based bron! 8)
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lebron is playing but Irving is out
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CELTICS WIN!!
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Lebron and Kevin Love shouldn't have even played :laugh:
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hope LEbron and Kyrie both sit out tomorrow vs Boston
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http://www.masslive.com/celtics/index.ssf/2015/04/lebron_james_likely_to_sit_aga.html
M V P!!! 8)
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By the way... where is the post I made when the Cavs were struggling—predicting the Cavs would turn it around and be a top team in the East 8)
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my top 5 MVP candidates this year:
1-Lebron - without him the Cavs miss the playoffs
2-Harden - carreid his team with a huge chunk of their salary cap (dwight howard) sitting on the bench
3-curry - best player on the best team
4-Davis - best big man in the league already
5-Westbrook - Allen Iverson part 2
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lebron will play the Cavs next game
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Celtics are gonna beat the Cavs 4 to 3
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Cavs won their final game of the yearr
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GO CELTICS
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GAME 1 TMRW BIOTCHES
ISIAH THOMAS TIME #ZEKE2
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well the Cavs got us in game 1 but if we win game 2 we erase their home court advantage
nice to hear Isiah Thomas talks with Isiah Thomas
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COME ON CELTICS
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win-win for u
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tough loss tonight. Tough running into the MVP tonight on his A game.
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damn Celtics lost :(
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i sent Lebron a link to the song "About Time" by LAMB and he favorited it!
NIK has made it 8)
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Celtics winnin tonight!!!
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:(
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:(
No worries, its not like they'll win a title this year anyway. They got all them draft picks, but it seems like teams don't wanna help them out. Which seems like all those extra picks are a waste, unless Ainge channels an inner Jerry West.
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i hope we get one win though. gentlemen's sweep.
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probably out the next 2-3 weeks
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ouch
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the best DUO on the nba, Lebron and Kyrie, will have their work cut out for them against the Bulls
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bulls in 6
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i wish the Bucks could win another game or 2 to extend that series :laugh:
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nah, Cavs win
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Lebron is going to dominate the Bulls
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Love out for the season, 2 niggas suspended
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Love out for the season, 2 niggas suspended
GOODBYE LOVE
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i saw that he's expected to miss 4-6 weeks
4 weeks and he'd be able to make the nba finals
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hawks lookin sloppy
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CAVS vs BULLS
can the Cavs overcome the odds? will D Rose stay healthy another 2 weeks? will King James dominate the Bulls as usual?
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game 1 monday night
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Lebron is the only one who's shown up so far for Cleveland
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Kyrie and Lebron are doing their thing now! Bulls were up 15 at one point
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And they lost on home court.
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lol, they're fine.
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cavs might drop the first 2 without JR Smith
i bet Amare feels like a moron for choosing Dallas over the Cavs - he'd be playing right now :laugh:
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too many players missing, lebron isnt 24 anymore...
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lol 19 points when his team is depending on him to score....typical lebron
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almost had a triple double, NIK would suck kobe's left toe if Kobe put up these numbers in a playoff loss
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almost had a triple double, NIK would suck kobe's left toe if Kobe put up these numbers in a playoff loss
ITS ALWAYS THE SAME STORY WITH LEBRON....THEY NEED SCORING FROM HIM, BUT HE GIVES U "NEAR TRIPLE DOUBLES", SCORING UNDER 20 POINTS
SHITS BECOME A RUNNING JOKE....EMPTY STATS WONT CUT IT WHEN U LOSING GAMES, MY JICCA
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that's why they play a best of 7 series
get ready for Clippers Cavs or Clippers Wizards in the finals 8)
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almost had a triple double, NIK would suck kobe's left toe if Kobe put up these numbers in a playoff loss
He already did that for Kobe's Game 7 the second time around against the Celtics & last night's LeBron was better than Kobe was in that game.
Then found the nuts to shit on LeBron's Game 7 with 37 & 12 with 5 three pointers & this shot...
(http://cdn2.sbnation.com/imported_assets/1673447/lebronclutch_medium.gif)
up 2 with 27 second left. Bigger than any shot Kobe's hit in his Finals career.
Even the realest Lakers fan on here, MDogg knows he's the least valid voice on the forum regarding Lakers/Kobe/LeBron.
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that's right, Bosh and Allen had 0 points that game 7 yet NIK said Lebron should be thanking them and ignores how Bron did game 7. :laugh:
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almost had a triple double, NIK would suck kobe's left toe if Kobe put up these numbers in a playoff loss
He already did that for Kobe's Game 7 the second time around against the Celtics & last night's LeBron was better than Kobe was in that game.
Then found the nuts to shit on LeBron's Game 7 with 37 & 12 with 5 three pointers & this shot...
(http://cdn2.sbnation.com/imported_assets/1673447/lebronclutch_medium.gif)
up 2 with 27 second left. Bigger than any shot Kobe's hit in his Finals career.
Even the realest Lakers fan on here, MDogg knows he's the least valid voice on the forum regarding Lakers/Kobe/LeBron.
why dont u stop bein a lil bitch and just admit that your boy lebron needs to do more in order for cleveland to win?? godamn son.....
and u guna keep bringin up a game in which kobe WON to compare to lebron's LOSING effort.....the fact that kobe WON means he did ENOUGH for the lakers to win, dumbfuck.
using mdogg when it comes to sports opinions is like using will b when it comes to rating music.....the fuck outa here wit ur lebron nuts in ya mouf bullshit
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that's right, Bosh and Allen had 0 points that game 7 yet NIK said Lebron should be thanking them and ignores how Bron did game 7. :laugh:
lebron is only good when momentum is on his side.........thats actually my point. all-time great players are good ALWAYS and know how to shift momentum on their own terms. thats why lebron is in a class with dominique wilkins/dr. j and not kobe bryant/michael jordan...which is still great, but not exactly what cham wants him 2 be.
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The troll is real with this one.
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The troll is real with this one.
very good cop-out answer, but u still gets shitted on
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The troll is real with this one.
very good cop-out answer, but u still gets shitted on
You just talk intangibles. Unproven opinions by your bias.
https://www.youtube.com/v/EEneggSHic4
Me & Cuban snub our noses at you, SNIK Bayless.
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so when the Thunder were up 1-0 on the Heat in the finals, wasn't momentum on their side? why did Lebron win the finals MVP that year then?
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The troll is real with this one.
very good cop-out answer, but u still gets shitted on
You just talk intangibles. Unproven opinions by your bias.
https://www.youtube.com/v/EEneggSHic4
Me & Cuban snub our noses at you, SNIK Bayless.
I speak the truth, while U over there scary as fuck to admit Lebron needs to step it up if Cleveland wants a chance .. nuts in ya mouf
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so when the Thunder were up 1-0 on the Heat in the finals, wasn't momentum on their side? why did Lebron win the finals MVP that year then?
we went over this already .. Heat didn't beat Okc, okc beat okc.
the quirks of bein finals rookies brodiebro
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He will, SNIK.
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He will, SNIK.
put some money on it then
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He will, SNIK.
put some money on it then
I have plenty on it. Cleveland went to -115 after the loss for the series. Gorgeous number.
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He will, SNIK.
put some money on it then
I have plenty on it. Cleveland went to -115 after the loss for the series. Gorgeous number.
bet me a bill that Cleveland wins it all
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so when the Thunder were up 1-0 on the Heat in the finals, wasn't momentum on their side? why did Lebron win the finals MVP that year then?
we went over this already .. Heat didn't beat Okc, okc beat okc.
the quirks of bein finals rookies brodiebro
Sccit Bayless coming at me again with his "Finals rookies" joke talk :D
dude just can't admit Lebron won 2 finals MVP's back to back without trying to slight both titles yet would NEVER acknowledge Kobe winning 2 titles thanks to injures to the Celtics (Garnett in the '09 playoffs, Perkins in the '10 finals game 6)
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Lebron is on fire
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so when the Thunder were up 1-0 on the Heat in the finals, wasn't momentum on their side? why did Lebron win the finals MVP that year then?
we went over this already .. Heat didn't beat Okc, okc beat okc.
the quirks of bein finals rookies brodiebro
Sccit Bayless
cmon bruhbruh...cant even come up wit ur own shit? :grumpy:
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nope, broken head
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Wow, Cavs are +2/+110 tomorrow. That's cray.
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Wow, Cavs are +2/+110 tomorrow. That's cray.
8)
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WOW!! D-ROSE with the huge 3 point bank-shot at the buzzer!
great game by both teams. except for Kyrie Irving, he sucked ass :laugh:
Bron came through with 27 and 14 with a set of huge back to back shots in the 4th but the difference today was D Rose in the 2nd half. Butler also balled a lot harder in the 2nd half.
can't wait for sunday
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nice chokejob by lebron, missin the game-tyin layup lmao
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cavs still tied it with 10 seconds to go and had the bulls down to 3 seconds to go.
without lebron the cavs loes by 50
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missed an open layup that woulda won the game rofl
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"woulda won the game"? it wasn't the last play of the game so how would it have been the game winner? :laugh:
Cavs will still win the series, Bulls just held home court.
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LEBRON
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NIK is right, this Lebron guy sucks. he just hit the game winning shot.
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that shot was GANGSTA maybe even on some mafia shit
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haha Lebron the Don Corleone
man Kyrie needs to get his shit together, they need him for the rest of this series. It's like watching Lebron on the old Cavs teams :laugh:
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lol bitchass refs givin the cavs an extra time-out to draw up a play based on a fake review
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LeBron James makes his 3rd career game-winning postseason buzzer beater – most by any player over last 15 years.
:bandit:
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Final 10 seconds of 4th Quarter/Overtime in postseason career:
MJ: 7-15
Lebron: 6-14
Kobe: 5-22
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lol bitchass refs givin the cavs an extra time-out to draw up a play based on a fake review
they do this on a regular basis for any team...
step back fadeway, almost a 3 pointer, nothing but net.. lebron is such a strong player.
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lol bitchass refs givin the cavs an extra time-out to draw up a play based on a fake review
they do this on a regular basis for any team...
step back fadeway, almost a 3 pointer, nothing but net.. lebron is such a strong player.
WHO GIVES A FUCK WHAT THEY DO IT FOR, SHITS WRONG.....CLEVELAND WAS SCRAMBLING BEFORE THAT FAUX TIMEOUT. HE GOT AN OPEN LOOK BECAUSE OF IT....GOOD SHOT, BUT U CAN TELL IT WAS GOIN IN SOON AS IT LEFT HIS HANDS WIT HOW CLEAN THE LOOK WAS.
STILL HAD A SUB-PAR GAME THO (10-30 FROM THE FIELD :-X)
IF NOT FOR THE FAUX TIMEOUT, LEBRON WOULD BE DOWN 1-3 RIGHT NOW.......WHOEVER WINS GAME 5 IS TAKING THE SERIES.
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NIK acting like this never happens all the time ::)
King James got this
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NIK acting like this never happens all the time ::)
King James got this
WHO CARES IF IT HAPPENS...SHITS WRONG, AND U CAN HERE VAN GUNDY SAYIN THE SAME SHIT AS IT WAS GOIN DOWN.
AND DAVID BLATT WAS SPOSTA GET A TECHNICAL FOR THAT PHANTOM TIMEOUT......THE LEAGUE STAY BAILIN OUT LEBRON
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yeah, not like Lebron had to hit the shot to avoid overtime or anything, right?
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WHAT DOES IT HAVE TO DO WITH MY POINT? IF THE CORRECT CALL WAS MADE (TECHNICAL ON BLATT), THEN THEY WOULDNT EVEN BE IN THAT PREDICAMENT...LIKE I SAID, THEY STAY BAILIN HIM OUT
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like the Lakers were bailed out against the Kings earlier this century
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NO..BECAUSE IF U READ INTO IT, THEN U UNDERSTAND THAT THE LAKERS-KINGS SERIES WAS REFFED TO EXTEND THE SERIES, NOT IN FAVOR OF THE LAKERS. MEANING, ONE GAME FAVORED LA AND THE NEXT FAVORED SAC. IT WENT BACK N FORTH...IN THIS SERIES, U CAN TELL THE REFS ARE BLATANTLY REFFING IN FAVOR OF CLEVELAND WITH THE SOLE INTENT OF PROTECTING LEBRONS LEGACY. NOT TO EXTEND THE SERIES ALA LAKERS-KINGS IN '01.
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do you even read what you type before you post it anymore??
the Lakers were done in that series and had the refs bail them out, point blank.
the Lakers avoided elimination because of what Bill Simmons called "from an officiating standpoint, the most one-sided game of the past decade."
Kings got hosed no matter how you try to spin it
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do you even read what you type before you post it anymore??
the Lakers were done in that series and had the refs bail them out, point blank.
the Lakers avoided elimination because of what Bill Simmons called "from an officiating standpoint, the most one-sided game of the past decade."
Kings got hosed no matter how you try to spin it
u dont get it....refs gave the kings some games and gave the lakers some games.....the whole point was to extend the series. thats why laker fans were mad as fuck after game 5 (kings went to the line 10 more times than the lakers in that game). then game 6 was reffed to favor the lakers...and game 7 was evened out, with both teams shooting around the same amount of free throws. it went back n forth with the sole purpose of reachin 7 games. go re-visit history and stop regurgitating the bs you hear on bspn.
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10 more free throws is now giving the team a game? :laugh:
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10 more free throws is now giving the team a game? :laugh:
read Tim donaghys book or stfu
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Final 10 seconds of 4th Quarter/Overtime in postseason career:
MJ: 7-15
Lebron: 6-14
Kobe: 5-22
(http://media.giphy.com/media/O5NyCibf93upy/giphy.gif)
Used to be 75% of his argument.
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Stop bullshitting.... if they were trying to bail the nigga LeBron out, they would have called the obvious foul and sent him to the line. 1 of 2 he can do.
It wouldn't even get to that point if they don't call the 2 offensive fouls on LeBron. Had I not watched the game, I might believe the game was called in the Cavs favor, vintage NBA style. But it was a evenly called game.
Nigga stays mad cause is LeBron going to the Finals again... with Mozgov as the 2nd best player on the team.
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LOL bailing him out. Called an offensive foul on him when he got trapped with 16 seconds left in the game.
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CAVS WIN
King James with 38 points and 0 turnovers. I wonder how NIK will spin today's game.........
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CAVS WIN
King James with 38 points and 0 turnovers. I wonder how NIK will spin today's game.........
Gasol was Injured.
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i hope we get a Cavs vs Wiz ECF - Lebron vs Pierce 8) :bandit:
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NIk must be looking up anti Lebron excuses right now
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Lebron passes Dirk in playoff rebounds tonight!
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Pay homage to the King, Nik.
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he's just lucky that rose was off
facing any western conference team, he woulda been swept by now and you know it
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oh yea, and like mdogg said, gasol out .... lol Cleveland should be BLOWING OUT this Chicago team. premature ejaculatin lookin ficcaz.
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LOL. You were predicting the Bulls to beat the Cavs. Cavs have far more injured and hurt players than the Bulls.
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LOL. You were predicting the Bulls to beat the Cavs. Cavs have far more injured and hurt players than the Bulls.
i didnt know gasol would be injured.. and yes, if he wasnt injured, then bulls woulda obviously won these last 2 games.
and love was already injured when i called bulls winnin the series.
i was right again
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you're as bitch-made as they come. unbelieveable.
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you're as bitch-made as they come. unbelieveable.
listen faggot, if ur guna deny that gasol being out doesnt change my projection, then u might as well go jerk off with your father
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7even is right
shut up with the excuse making, Kevin Love being out and missing JR Smith 2 games PLUS kyrie being hurt makes you look stupid.
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7even is right
shut up with the excuse making, Kevin Love being out and missing JR Smith 2 games PLUS kyrie being hurt makes you look stupid.
thats not what were talkin about tho.....he said that i predicted bulls to win the series. i surely did, when it was already known that love and smith would be out. once gasol went down, that changes everything. enough wit the retard logic brodie.
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excuses, excuses. ;D ::)
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lebron always gets the easiest roads to the finals .. nothin excusable about that
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no Kevin Love makes it a harder road
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no Kevin Love makes it a harder road
tbh kyrie and lebron have better chemistry with tristan thompson...i think theyre built from the mold of an anti-cac coli poster
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???
that's 99% of the place
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oh and you may be right but depth wise you need Love to win in the finals.
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you're as bitch-made as they come. unbelieveable.
Lmaoooo, niggas know.
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i love how the kobe assist stat was so important to him until Lebron passes it ;D
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7even is right
shut up with the excuse making, Kevin Love being out and missing JR Smith 2 games PLUS kyrie being hurt makes you look stupid.
thats not what were talkin about tho.....he said that i predicted bulls to win the series. i surely did, when it was already known that love and smith would be out. once gasol went down, that changes everything. enough wit the retard logic brodie.
Listen to yourself:
http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=316944.0
You predicted the Bulls for the Finals BEFORE Love or anybody else had any problems.
you're as bitch-made as they come. unbelieveable.
listen faggot, if ur guna deny that gasol being out doesnt change my projection, then u might as well go jerk off with your father
Lol LeBron winning makes you mad :D
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lebron apologists are the weakest
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You predicted the Bulls for the Finals BEFORE Love or anybody else had any problems.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: ouch
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http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?id=300617013
I mean it makes sense he is so high on Pau. He owes him life long servitude for handing Kobe #5.
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6 of 24 in a game 7, bailed out by Gasol and a lucky Artest shot.
but Kobe played with a bunch of bums, right? ::)
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6 of 24 in a game 7, bailed out by Gasol and a lucky Artest shot.
but Kobe played with a bunch of bums, right? ::)
& he beat a "rookie" Finals team the year before.
(http://media.giphy.com/media/O5NyCibf93upy/giphy.gif)
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lol@the lebron apologists stickin together...you can find more testosterone at a gay pride rally.
kobe has won with far less than lebron and it makes yall mad as shit....look at yall bringin kobe into a topic about lebron, once again. your insecurities run deep.
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kobe has won with far less than lebron
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Hack, if they still do the Dubby awards in December, save this one for post of the year. Sccit Bayless at his finest.
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Damn ur dumb as fuck if u don't think the heat were more stacked than the Kobe-Gasol Lakers
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6 of 24 in a game 7, bailed out by Gasol and a lucky Artest shot.
but Kobe played with a bunch of bums, right? ::)
& he beat a "rookie" Finals team the year before.
(http://media.giphy.com/media/O5NyCibf93upy/giphy.gif)
hahahahahahaha finals rookies indeed. :laugh:
the Heat team with Bosh and Wade and no Lebron sure looks good right about now too. i think they play the Cavs in the eastern conference finals, right?
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LeBron made them look great because of what he does for his teammates. Just something you're not used too seeing from a player; just Phil. Also why there was some struggles in the Finals. Spurs & Mavs were full complete teams. Ala those Laker teams lead by Pau & Metta.
LMAO, niggas even practically the head coach, calling off plays with less than 2 second left.
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lol Cleveland should be BLOWING OUT this Chicago team.
Nigga's listenin' to you too lmaooo.
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6 of 24 in a game 7, bailed out by Gasol and a lucky Artest shot.
but Kobe played with a bunch of bums, right? ::)
& he beat a "rookie" Finals team the year before.
(http://media.giphy.com/media/O5NyCibf93upy/giphy.gif)
hahahahahahaha finals rookies indeed. :laugh:
the Heat team with Bosh and Wade and no Lebron sure looks good right about now too. i think they play the Cavs in the eastern conference finals, right?
pretty sure they was well in the playoff race before bosh got injured.
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LeBron made them look great because of what he does for his teammates. Just something you're not used too seeing from a player; just Phil. Also why there was some struggles in the Finals. Spurs & Mavs were full complete teams. Ala those Laker teams lead by Pau & Metta.
LMAO, niggas even practically the head coach, calling off plays with less than 2 second left.
once again, lebron has never won witout another superstar by his side. the moment you start comparing the heat supporting cast to the laker supporting cast is the moment you make yourself sound like a complete retard. lebron winning in 2012-2013 is like kobe winning in 2000-2002.
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Birdman, Mario Chalmers, Mike Miller, James Jones, Norris Cole, Shane Battier, Ray, Haslem. Half those niggas are pushing 40 years old. Again, these guys looked 25 times better than they would without LeBron leading them.
Bosh got ripped all four years like he wasn't worthy of starting. Wade disappeared from superstar numbers after the first time in Dallas, getting dominated by Lance Stephenson, who can't even start on the Hornets.
Nigga won without Kevin Love or Kyrie, IN THE PLAYOFFS, IN CHICAGO, WITH PAU, BY 20, primarily with Dellanadova, JR, Shumpert, Mozgov & Tristian. You would be hysterically crying pulling Sccit Bayless excuses out the ass if that was Kobe's support in LA & they inevitably went 32-50.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFAyS9vUsAAIh79.jpg)
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the Heat were the #7 seed when Bosh went out and NIK actsl ike they were up there with the Hawks :grumpy:
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Clippers - Cavs finals is going to be epic
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Birdman, Mario Chalmers, Mike Miller, James Jones, Norris Cole, Shane Battier, Ray, Haslem. Half those niggas are pushing 40 years old. Again, these guys looked 25 times better than they would without LeBron leading them.
Bosh got ripped all four years like he wasn't worthy of starting. Wade disappeared from superstar numbers after the first time in Dallas, getting dominated by Lance Stephenson, who can't even start on the Hornets.
Nigga won without Kevin Love or Kyrie, IN THE PLAYOFFS, IN CHICAGO, WITH PAU, BY 20, primarily with Dellanadova, JR, Shumpert, Mozgov & Tristian. You would be hysterically crying pulling Sccit Bayless excuses out the ass if that was Kobe's support in LA & they inevitably went 32-50.
AND BOSH WAS BACK TO BEIN A FRANCHISE PLAYER ONCE LEBRON WAS GONE....IF IT WASNT FOR THE LUNG INFECTION, BOSH IS THE BEST PLAYER ON A PLAYOFF TEAM. PAU IS NOT EVEN THE 2ND BEST PLAYER ON THE BULLS....AND BOSH WAS THE 3RD OPTION ON THE HEAT. STOP IT, SON, IT AINT EVEN CLOSE.
AND BESIDES PAU, WHAT HAPPENED TO LUKE, SASHA, FARMAR, ODOM, ARTEST, POWELL, MBENGA, FISHER, SHANNON AFTER THE BACK-TO-BACK TITLES? LOL....CMON, BRUH. IF U REALLY GUNA KEEP ARGUIN THIS, U JUST GUNA END UP LOOKING DUMBER AND DUMBER WIT EACH POST.
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FRANCHISE PLAYER?
they were the #7 seed with a below .500 record and bosh was putting up 21 and 7 a game, hardly astounding numbers for an experienced big man.
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FRANCHISE PLAYER?
they were the #7 seed with a below .500 record and bosh was putting up 21 and 7 a game, hardly astounding numbers for an experienced big man.
AGAIN....THE BEST PLAYER ON A PLAYOFF TEAM...........WAS THE THIRD OPTION FOR LEBRON.
TRY AGAIN
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a team below .500 ::)
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a team below .500 ::)
Na, now Eastern playoff teams mean something to him. There have been more contradictions in three pages than points score in the Clippers series. Kid's lost all sense of reality.
Rockets/Cavs would drive the boy mad. Either LeBron, Harden or Dwight would be a champion. Ima say lets go Clippers in game seven just for his health.
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a team below .500 ::)
Na, now Eastern playoff teams mean something to him. There have been more contradictions in three pages than points score in the Clippers series. Kid's lost all sense of reality.
Rockets/Cavs would drive the boy mad. Either LeBron, Harden or Dwight would be a champion. Ima say lets go Clippers in game seven just for his health.
GOLDEN STATE WARRIORS TAKIN IT NANCYBOY
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will Memphis even get into round 2? they might face the Spurs round 1...
Man, I feel so basketball smart right now... LOL
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a team below .500 ::)
Na, now Eastern playoff teams mean something to him. There have been more contradictions in three pages than points score in the Clippers series. Kid's lost all sense of reality.
Rockets/Cavs would drive the boy mad. Either LeBron, Harden or Dwight would be a champion. Ima say lets go Clippers in game seven just for his health.
GOLDEN STATE WARRIORS TAKIN IT NANCYBOY
If the Warriors are going to lose to the Cavs in the Finals... "jumpshooting Finals rookies" will be your excuse for that :laugh:
Even Skip Bayless is giving LeBron props at this point
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look at this dumbass M Fraud for obozo coming in here acting like the Spurs weren't the #2 seed with a game or 2 to go in the regular season ::)
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a team below .500 ::)
Na, now Eastern playoff teams mean something to him. There have been more contradictions in three pages than points score in the Clippers series. Kid's lost all sense of reality.
Rockets/Cavs would drive the boy mad. Either LeBron, Harden or Dwight would be a champion. Ima say lets go Clippers in game seven just for his health.
GOLDEN STATE WARRIORS TAKIN IT NANCYBOY
If the Warriors are going to lose to the Cavs in the Finals... "jumpshooting Finals rookies" will be your excuse for that :laugh:
Even Skip Bayless is giving LeBron props at this point
ill give him props if they win it all.....guaranteed
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look at this dumbass M Fraud for obozo coming in here acting like the Spurs weren't the #2 seed with a game or 2 to go in the regular season ::)
Spurs are not playing right now, Memphis is (but not for long). All that matters, Spurs can't even beat the Clippers.
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look at this dumbass M Fraud for obozo coming in here acting like the Spurs weren't the #2 seed with a game or 2 to go in the regular season ::)
Spurs are not playing right now, Memphis is (but not for long). All that matters, Spurs can't even beat the Clippers.
It was a VERY close series and the Clippers have very legit chances to win the title. You're talking shit.
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anyone in the wests top 6 seeds had a shot at winning the title, except Portland because of Wes Matthews injury.
if golden state beats memphis (which i believe they will) they'd fare much better against the Rockets than the Clippers though.
meanwhile Lebron is just chilling, waiting for Atlanta and Washington to beat each other up more
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Cavs vs Hawks game 1 Wednesday
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sucks we gotta go 3 more days until the eastern conference finals starts
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Another one bits the dust. Surprised the Rockets won, but man they dominated that game. Makes me miss Trevor Ariza more and more.
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Rockets are a tougher match up for the Cavs because they have a deeper roster
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Rockets are a tougher match up for the Cavs because they have a deeper roster
lol no
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GS is a jump shooting team, they can be stopped.
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GS is a jump shooting team, they can be stopped.
By Houston? A team with little defense?
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NO THEYRE NOT .. ROCKETS ARE A JUMP SHOOTING TEAM.
WARRIORS ARE AN ALL-AROUND TEAM
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GS is a jump shooting team, they can be stopped.
By Houston? A team with little defense?
no, by Cleveland
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GS is a jump shooting team, they can be stopped.
By Houston? A team with little defense?
no, by Cleveland
Cleveland? A team that's defensive stats are inflated because they have one of the worst pace rankings in the NBA.
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Cleveland, a team that's going to win the eastern conference finals.
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Cleveland, a team that's going to win the eastern conference finals.
The Hawks are looking really good. They don't have a star, but they are just looking amazing. And I'm not hating, I picked Cleveland. But with Irving nursing an injury, it will be tough.
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the chicken Hawks will win a game or maybe even 2 if Kyrie is still hurt. but 7 games man, that's no help.
besides, aren't the Hawks eastern conference finals rookies? :laugh:
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the chicken Hawks will win a game or maybe even 2 if Kyrie is still hurt. but 7 games man, that's no help.
besides, aren't the Hawks eastern conference finals rookies? :laugh:
Yes. Last time the hawks got past the 2nd round, they were in st. louis & that was ancient history times. They'd still be in st. louis if they hadn't bypassed Bill Russell cause they didn't want blacks on their team or in that city. They'd have a great winning percentage & more championships by now, not the celtics. Funny how people love 2 say cities with blacks as the large majority be in gangs destroying the city when it was white gangs in the 50's & 60's that completely fubared that city for decades to come. A century ago, st.louis was the 4th biggest city in america. They even had 2 baseball teams then.
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the chicken Hawks will win a game or maybe even 2 if Kyrie is still hurt. but 7 games man, that's no help.
besides, aren't the Hawks eastern conference finals rookies? :laugh:
Yes. Last time the hawks got past the 2nd round, they were in st. louis & that was ancient history times. They'd still be in st. louis if they hadn't bypassed Bill Russell cause they didn't want blacks on their team or in that city. They'd have a great winning percentage & more championships by now, not the celtics. Funny how people love 2 say cities with blacks as the large majority be in gangs destroying the city when it was white gangs in the 50's & 60's that completely fubared that city for decades to come. A century ago, st.louis was the 4th biggest city in america. They even had 2 baseball teams then.
That's true actually. Some cities could have been more had they been more accepting. St. Louis is one for sure. Even now, after civil rights and integration, the issues that exist between black and white is so great that it ruins the whole city. Oh well.
As for basketball, I still have the Cavs winning, but man injury is not doing them any favors and the Hawks are getting all the bounces going their way.
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the chicken Hawks will win a game or maybe even 2 if Kyrie is still hurt. but 7 games man, that's no help.
besides, aren't the Hawks eastern conference finals rookies? :laugh:
Yes. Last time the hawks got past the 2nd round, they were in st. louis & that was ancient history times. They'd still be in st. louis if they hadn't bypassed Bill Russell cause they didn't want blacks on their team or in that city. They'd have a great winning percentage & more championships by now, not the celtics. Funny how people love 2 say cities with blacks as the large majority be in gangs destroying the city when it was white gangs in the 50's & 60's that completely fubared that city for decades to come. A century ago, st.louis was the 4th biggest city in america. They even had 2 baseball teams then.
I kno its hard to tell, but he was tryna make a joke. good break down tho. I got Hawks in 7, but it could go either way.
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the chicken Hawks will win a game or maybe even 2 if Kyrie is still hurt. but 7 games man, that's no help.
besides, aren't the Hawks eastern conference finals rookies? :laugh:
Yes. Last time the hawks got past the 2nd round, they were in st. louis & that was ancient history times. They'd still be in st. louis if they hadn't bypassed Bill Russell cause they didn't want blacks on their team or in that city. They'd have a great winning percentage & more championships by now, not the celtics. Funny how people love 2 say cities with blacks as the large majority be in gangs destroying the city when it was white gangs in the 50's & 60's that completely fubared that city for decades to come. A century ago, st.louis was the 4th biggest city in america. They even had 2 baseball teams then.
had no idea St. Louis was racist like that. Sad.
Also, notice how much better NYC got as a city when the mafia was taken down in the 90's
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the chicken Hawks will win a game or maybe even 2 if Kyrie is still hurt. but 7 games man, that's no help.
besides, aren't the Hawks eastern conference finals rookies? :laugh:
Yes. Last time the hawks got past the 2nd round, they were in st. louis & that was ancient history times. They'd still be in st. louis if they hadn't bypassed Bill Russell cause they didn't want blacks on their team or in that city. They'd have a great winning percentage & more championships by now, not the celtics. Funny how people love 2 say cities with blacks as the large majority be in gangs destroying the city when it was white gangs in the 50's & 60's that completely fubared that city for decades to come. A century ago, st.louis was the 4th biggest city in america. They even had 2 baseball teams then.
had no idea St. Louis was racist like that. Sad.
Also, notice how much better NYC got as a city when the mafia was taken down in the 90's
St. Louis was suppose to be the center of the nation. Even in the Native American times, Cahokia was a HUGE city and urban central for Native Americans and had 40,000 people living there before Columbus. That area, being on the Mississippi, between all those river deltas, is just centered perfectly for it to be a huge urban center. But man, racism. Basically the history of Missouri has always been a very contentious one post-US founding.
New York, basically they elected Rudy who was fighting the mob for a long, long time. As mayor, he was able to finish them off and get private companies to invest in New York again. He really took back Time Square and brought New York back. Not bad at all. A city can make a comeback, that's for sure.
One thing I didn't notice about the season until right now. The Hawks dominated the Cavs in the regular season. So I wonder what that means. Usually nothing. But I think there is something there. The Cavs are also missing Love. This could be very interesting. This might be the closest series of the post-season. I mean the winner will get beat by Golden State. That's just a fact. So this is these teams NBA Finals right here.
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annnnd Carroll is out for the season.
#CavsSweep
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"RECOGNIZE THE POWER OF THE ROYAL KING JAMES" - LL COOL J
8)
#CavsSweep
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Lebron and the Cavs gonna take game 2 as well
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the chicken Hawks will win a game or maybe even 2 if Kyrie is still hurt. but 7 games man, that's no help.
besides, aren't the Hawks eastern conference finals rookies? :laugh:
Yes. Last time the hawks got past the 2nd round, they were in st. louis & that was ancient history times. They'd still be in st. louis if they hadn't bypassed Bill Russell cause they didn't want blacks on their team or in that city. They'd have a great winning percentage & more championships by now, not the celtics. Funny how people love 2 say cities with blacks as the large majority be in gangs destroying the city when it was white gangs in the 50's & 60's that completely fubared that city for decades to come. A century ago, st.louis was the 4th biggest city in america. They even had 2 baseball teams then.
That's true actually. Some cities could have been more had they been more accepting. St. Louis is one for sure. Even now, after civil rights and integration, the issues that exist between black and white is so great that it ruins the whole city. Oh well.
As for basketball, I still have the Cavs winning, but man injury is not doing them any favors and the Hawks are getting all the bounces going their way.
Some of the extra stuff I added, i've found out on gangland. I fell asleep through the 1st half but the 2nd half was great. Only series i'll watch. Fuck the western matchup for obvious reason. Wonder what was worse for the bricks fans? The 4th selection tuesday or J.R. Smith going off last night?
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can't wait for game 2
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Lebron is the man
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game 2 tmrw
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Lebron is the man
lmfao
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:laugh:
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hope tonights game goes to overtime so i have a shot at watching some of it 8)
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hope tonights game goes to overtime so i have a shot at watching some of it 8)
not happening. Cavs are shitting on niggas with Irving in a suit.
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hope tonights game goes to overtime so i have a shot at watching some of it 8)
not happening. Cavs are shitting on niggas with Irving in a suit.
concert went until 12:30 anyways so i woulda missed it anyway
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He's too good.
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since Kyle Korver is out the rest of the series the CAvs might as well rest Kyrie another game or 2
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since Kyle Korver is out the rest of the series the CAvs might as well rest Kyrie another game or 2
Or the series lol.
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since Kyle Korver is out the rest of the series the CAvs might as well rest Kyrie another game or 2
Or the series lol.
I'd rest him for the series. Doesn't make sense to risk further injury. Even if they lose a game or two, it doesn't matter.
Kevin Love not traveling with the team to the conference finals is pretty insane. Wouldn't be surprised if he was really leaving. Who could the Cavs get for him? If he's just plain leaving, the cap doesn't allow them to do too much, since Irving's max contract is starting.
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no Kyrie tonight
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CAVS WIN
37-18-13 from King James - no other player has EVER had that stat line in a playoff game (not MJ, wilt or anyone!)
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*waiting for Sccit to come in here and point out Lebron missed his first 10 shots as if that means anything* ;D
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It was obvious the Hawks would turn to a pumpkin eventually. Let's see what happens when they meet the Warriors.
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It was obvious the Hawks would turn to a pumpkin eventually. Let's see what happens when they meet the Warriors.
the hawks vs the warriors????
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It was obvious the Hawks would turn to a pumpkin eventually. Let's see what happens when they meet the Warriors.
the hawks vs the warriors????
Cavs.
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it's such a shame the Cavs don't have Kevin Love
that faggot being hurt + Kyrie's injury will prob cost Lebron the title :(
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Points
1. James Harden ▪ HOU 403
2. Stephen Curry ▪ GSW 389
3. LeBron James ▪ CLE 363
4. Blake Griffin ▪ LAC 357
5. Jimmy Butler ▪ CHI 275
6. Chris Paul ▪ LAC 265
7. Klay Thompson ▪ GSW 252
8. Dwight Howard ▪ HOU 246
9. Derrick Rose ▪ CHI 244
10. Bradley Beal ▪ WAS 234
points scored these playoffs
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFiVUQQUkAALdYP.png:large
makes sense
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GO TEAM
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Absolute GOAT. Christ.
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the sweep goes down tomorrow
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another finals
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another finals
Really, since 2007, that's a long time ago man.
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Brad Daugherty - "LeBron is the best player on the planet", "Just like MJ".
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First player since Russel to make 5 finals in consecutive seasons.
Won 15 eastern conference series in a row.
What were the Knicks doing with Smith, Shumpert, Mozgov. They couldn't win. Melo played with these guys and were borderline the worst team in he league. Now they are in the finals and are keys to the Cavs success.
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Absolute GOAT. Christ.
lmao not even the best player in the NBA right now and he's in his prime
stop it
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First player since Russel to make 5 finals in consecutive seasons.
GOAT.
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First player since Russel to make 5 finals in consecutive seasons.
GOAT.
kill yaself
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Absolute GOAT. Christ.
lmao not even the best player in the NBA right now and he's in his prime
stop it
Lebron has been the best player in the NBA for years, Curry is just having his first superstar season at what, 26?? Look at everything Lebron already did by his age ::)
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we really gotta wait 42 days til the finals starts
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Absolute GOAT. Christ.
lmao not even the best player in the NBA right now and he's in his prime
stop it
Lebron has been the best player in the NBA for years, Curry is just having his first superstar season at what, 26?? Look at everything Lebron already did by his age ::)
that's my point .. curry still ain't even in his prime and is already better.
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Lmaoooo, I'd probably trade anyone on the roster besides Kyrie and Thompson for Harrison Barnes. Niggas like the 5th option on the Warriors.
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shumpert and Barnes are interchangeable .. u tryin way too hard
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the same Shumpert who ain't done shit with the Nix?
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the same Shumpert who ain't done shit with the Nix?
the one who was NBA all-rookie first team in 2012..u know?
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Lmaoooo. Interchangeable.
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that's how u know Cham got shitted on .. when he pulls out that "lmao" wit the added O's for dramatic effect.
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the same Shumpert who ain't done shit with the Nix?
the one who was NBA all-rookie first team in 2012..u know?
did the knicks make it to the finals with him, JR and Melo?
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Lebron is a 4 time MVP. how many MVP's do Carmelo, Durant, Westbrook, Curry, T-Mac, Jordan Farmar and Kobe Bryant have combined?
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It's just me cracking up at how hard you go to sound stupid as hell just to slight LeBron lmaoooooooo.
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It's just me cracking up at how hard you go to sound stupid as hell just to slight LeBron lmaoooooooo.
this is NIK 12 years ago when asked if Lebron should win rookie of the year:
I keep hearing that Denver had a better team, but who the hell did they have? Marcus Camby and Andre Miller?...Cleveland had Ilgauskas, Williams, Boozer, and McInnis, but still didn't even make the playoffs IN THE EAST! Carmelo got his team into the playoffs IN THE WILD WILD WEST!...And that "Denver had a better team" argument is straight BULLSHIT...The end.
caping for Melo over Bron since they were pups
LMAO...He was playing against High School Students...Even Slava Medvadenko would be a superstar playing against High Scool Students... ::)
a 2003 post by NIK hating on Lebron for signing a big deal with Nike at age 18
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It's just me cracking up at how hard you go to sound stupid as hell just to slight LeBron lmaoooooooo.
you callin him goat and have the nerve to say some1 else sound stupid. suicide is your only hope.
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It's just me cracking up at how hard you go to sound stupid as hell just to slight LeBron lmaoooooooo.
this is NIK 12 years ago when asked if Lebron should win rookie of the year:
I keep hearing that Denver had a better team, but who the hell did they have? Marcus Camby and Andre Miller?...Cleveland had Ilgauskas, Williams, Boozer, and McInnis, but still didn't even make the playoffs IN THE EAST! Carmelo got his team into the playoffs IN THE WILD WILD WEST!...And that "Denver had a better team" argument is straight BULLSHIT...The end.
caping for Melo over Bron since they were pups
LMAO...He was playing against High School Students...Even Slava Medvadenko would be a superstar playing against High Scool Students... ::)
a 2003 post by NIK hating on Lebron for signing a big deal with Nike at age 18
exactly.. lebron been overhyped since day 1
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NIK hating is reaching an all time high. It's like the more LeBron accomplishes the more hate spews out! Signs of a jealous 12 year old.
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NIK hating is reaching an all time high. It's like the more LeBron accomplishes the more hate spews out! Signs of a jealous 12 year old.
Be careful. Thinking LeBron has any accomplishments makes you a "LeBron apologist".
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NIK hating is reaching an all time high. It's like the more LeBron accomplishes the more hate spews out! Signs of a jealous 12 year old.
how bout this.....if lebron beats an elite team (GS WARRIORS), i will give him all the props in the world. if he loses, i was right all along and you just a dicklicking welching fagboy
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NIK hating is reaching an all time high. It's like the more LeBron accomplishes the more hate spews out! Signs of a jealous 12 year old.
Be careful. Thinking LeBron has any accomplishments makes you a "LeBron apologist".
a lebron apologist is some1 who wont admit lebron been had a cakewalk to the finals for 5 straight years and claims he's the GOAT cuz of it
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NIK hating is reaching an all time high. It's like the more LeBron accomplishes the more hate spews out! Signs of a jealous 12 year old.
how bout this.....if lebron beats an elite team (GS WARRIORS), i will give him all the props in the world. if he loses, i was right all along and you just a dicklicking welching fagboy
You say that now because Vegas has the Warriors as a -240 favorite & you like your chances with the second best option right now with Kyrie's leg being a coin flip between JR Smith & Matthew Dellavedova depending on who has the hotter hand.
But then if LeBron runs way with it, the Warriors become another "Finals rookie" team. You're the type of nigga where if like Shaun Livingston goes down in Game 3, you'll be like "OHHHH, THAT'S A CHEMISTRY KILLER!"
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NIK hating is reaching an all time high. It's like the more LeBron accomplishes the more hate spews out! Signs of a jealous 12 year old.
how bout this.....if lebron beats an elite team (GS WARRIORS), i will give him all the props in the world. if he loses, i was right all along and you just a dicklicking welching fagboy
You say that now because Vegas has the Warriors as a -240 favorite & you like your chances with the second best option right now with Kyrie's leg being a coin flip between JR Smith & Matthew Dellavedova depending on who has the hotter hand.
But then if LeBron runs way with it, the Warriors become another "Finals rookie" team. You're the type of nigga where if like Shaun Livingston goes down in Game 3, you'll be like "OHHHH, THAT'S A CHEMISTRY KILLER!"
sit down..u dont sound too confident in the "GOAT" son
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NIK hating is reaching an all time high. It's like the more LeBron accomplishes the more hate spews out! Signs of a jealous 12 year old.
Be careful. Thinking LeBron has any accomplishments makes you a "LeBron apologist".
a lebron apologist is some1 who wont admit lebron been had a cakewalk to the finals for 5 straight years and claims he's the GOAT cuz of it
Where was this all those years in Miami? All I heard was you saying the Bulls, Pacers, Knicks for a year, Celtics early on were all going to beat him & he was going to choke. Even this very year in this "cakewalk" you had the Bulls going to the Finals lmao.
Just like you not seeing how he improves his teammates because of how good he is, you don't realize how it only appears to be a cakewalk because of how GOAT-like he's been the last five years.
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NIK hating is reaching an all time high. It's like the more LeBron accomplishes the more hate spews out! Signs of a jealous 12 year old.
Be careful. Thinking LeBron has any accomplishments makes you a "LeBron apologist".
a lebron apologist is some1 who wont admit lebron been had a cakewalk to the finals for 5 straight years and claims he's the GOAT cuz of it
Where was this all those years in Miami? All I heard was you saying the Bulls, Pacers, Knicks for a year, Celtics early on were all going to beat him & he was going to choke. Even this very year in this "cakewalk" you had the Bulls going to the Finals lmao.
Just like you not seeing how he improves his teammates because of how good he is, you don't realize how it only appears to be a cakewalk because of how GOAT-like he's been the last five years.
bulls woulda went to the finals...they were a pau gasol injury away from goin up 3-1. but more importantly, derrick rose is not an elite player anymore...at the end of the day, bulls would be a bottom tier playoff team out west. the fact that it was even a series proves lebron woulda been a first round out if cavs were in the west. these teams arent elite...if they are, tell me what elite team he had to beat to get the the finals? lets hear it.
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The Pacers were a top 5 team in the league prior to this year. The Thunder team had 3 of the top 5 best players in the NBA on the same roster & the Spurs team was better than anyone Kobe's ever had to play in his life.
We've been over this. Kobe beating the Celtics was his greatest challenge & Pau & Artest did more than half the work for him. Prior to that was the Kings & then "cakewalks" against the Eastern opponents in the Finals & in between that was your delusional Phoenix Suns everybody wrote off because they gave up like 110 PPG, Chris Paul's (someone you think is awfully, awfully, awfully overrated) Hornets & T-Mac & Melo playing...well...how T-Mac & Melo always played, not relatively competitive come playoff time.
Dude, the facts remain...if LeBron was in the West, he'd have a better team than he does right now & in this competitive West where if Durant stayed healthy & they made the 8 seed over the Pelicans, literally all 8 teams would have a decent chance to make the Finals. Throw the best player since Jordan on any of those 8 teams & they automatically become the hands down favorite to win the Finals. Then you just switch up the narrative for yourself & whine like the teenage girl you been sounding like, " :'( He's got Lillard & Aldridge...no fair :'(", " :'( He's got Westbrook & Durant...no fair :'(", " :'( He's got Harden & Howard...no fair :'(", " :'( He's got the entire Spurs team...no fair :'(", " :'( He's got the Clippers...no fair :'(" & on & on & on.
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The Pacers were a top 5 team in the league prior to this year. The Thunder team had 3 of the top 5 best players in the NBA on the same roster & the Spurs team was better than anyone Kobe's ever had to play in his life.
We've been over this. Kobe beating the Celtics was his greatest challenge & Pau & Artest did more than half the work for him. Prior to that was the Kings & then "cakewalks" against the Eastern opponents in the Finals & in between that was your delusional Phoenix Suns everybody wrote off because they gave up like 110 PPG, Chris Paul's (someone you think is awfully, awfully, awfully overrated) Hornets & T-Mac & Melo playing...well...how T-Mac & Melo always played, not relatively competitive come playoff time.
Dude, the facts remain...if LeBron was in the West, he'd have a better team than he does right now & in this competitive West where if Durant stayed healthy & they made the 8 seed over the Pelicans, literally all 8 teams would have a decent chance to make the Finals. Throw the best player since Jordan on any of those 8 teams & they automatically become the hands down favorite to win the Finals. Then you just switch up the narrative for yourself & whine like the teenage girl you been sounding like, " :'( He's got Lillard & Aldridge...no fair :'(", " :'( He's got Westbrook & Durant...no fair :'(", " :'( He's got Harden & Howard...no fair :'(", " :'( He's got the entire Spurs team...no fair :'(", " :'( He's got the Clippers...no fair :'(" & on & on & on.
lmao the pacers were elite? same pacers who didnt even win 50 games in the east and STILL went to 7 games wit lebron's heat? way to prove a point, son. and why are u naming the Thunder and Spurs, WESTERN CONFERENCE TEAMS, when I asked you what elite teams LeBron beat to get to the Finals? rofl....you just shitted all over yaself, do u realize that? dude had cakewalks to the finals, 5 years straight....u STILL cant name me an elite team he beat in the playoffs to get to the finals. it's embarrassing how bad u try capin for him, bruh. just stop.
and dont ever say somethin as dumb as "the spurs team is better than anyone kobe had to ever face".....the spurs and duncan are known for bein Kobe's bitch. straight up.
i already posted the graphic and i know u saw it....kobe has gone through countless 50+ win teams in the playoffs. Lebron? just 6. it's sad that u wont accept the truth because of how much he make ur dick grow.
there is no star in the west right now that has a better 2nd and 3rd option than lebron....NONE. we talkin about 2 franchise players as his supporting players, and u sittin here talkin about his team would be even better if he played in the west. lmao. it would NEED TO BE better in order for him to win, but i duno how much better it gets than havin kevin love as your 3rd option.
if lebron went to a team like portland, for example...he wouldnt be playin with lillard AND aldirdge....he'd have to replace one of those 2. does aldridge play with 2 other franchise players? does harden play with 2 other franchise players? does chris paul play with 2 other franchise players? did kobe play with 2 other franchise players? then why the fuck should lebron? u pretty much admittin that he needs an all-star cast to win. and more so than any other number 1 option in the league....bosh isnt whack, love isnt whack....they just look whack playin next to lebron. lebron makes players change their game in order to play with him.....he makes his teammates look like role players when they're superstars. aldirdge would prolly be a 12-7 guy playin next to lebron lmao.
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1. Yes...the Pacers were a top 5 team in basketball both years prior to this one. That was my first sentence lmao. The East is weaker, there is no doubt about it. But that doesn't mean anything. It's just the latest argument of the week for you. This "LeBron never beat 50 50+ win teams"...yeah, LeBron also didn't play second fiddle to the greatest center ever for three rings.
2. Kobe Shaq beat those older Spurs teams...but the recent team with Kawhi is easily better than those older teams.
3. The term "franchise" player is used when you see it fit, but highly overused. Franchise player means you can build a franchise around these guys & win games. Bosh did shit in Toronto outside of personal/statistical success. They couldn't BUILD a franchise around him. Love got ripped apart all season for proving he wasn't as great & special of a #1 player as being alone on an island in Minnesota made him look. Those guys are all-stars, but you try to hype them up like next year Miami is a lock to win 55 games with Chris Bosh leading the way. Or Love will go to LA, Kobe will get injured before Thanksgiving & Love will carry the Lakers to the Western Conference Finals. Both of those teams would be lucky to make the playoffs.
4. Why do you keep making shit up with this "he has two franchise players?". Like it's not even fun to debate things if you just make up your own shit. Love has missed the last two rounds & Kyrie has been on & off the sideline the last two rounds. You're just so angry that he's still winning, beating teams you picked to go to the Finals with JR & Dellavedova.
5. And most importantly....NIGGA....how are you trying to complain LeBron has a supporting cast when Kobe was undeniably #2 to a top ten player in the HISTORY of the NBA? Like that's the ultimate help of all-time lol.
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He aint gunna be shit in the NBA...This kid (Jordan Farmer) who goes to my school, is better than him...He averages the most points in LAUSD...Also Steve Smith, another kid who plays for my school is good as hell too...
NIK knew so much about Farmar that he didn't need to spell his name correctly ;D
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1. Yes...the Pacers were a top 5 team in basketball both years prior to this one. That was my first sentence lmao. The East is weaker, there is no doubt about it. But that doesn't mean anything. It's just the latest argument of the week for you. This "LeBron never beat 50 50+ win teams"...yeah, LeBron also didn't play second fiddle to the greatest center ever for three rings.
2. Kobe Shaq beat those older Spurs teams...but the recent team with Kawhi is easily better than those older teams.
3. The term "franchise" player is used when you see it fit, but highly overused. Franchise player means you can build a franchise around these guys & win games. Bosh did shit in Toronto outside of personal/statistical success. They couldn't BUILD a franchise around him. Love got ripped apart all season for proving he wasn't as great & special of a #1 player as being alone on an island in Minnesota made him look. Those guys are all-stars, but you try to hype them up like next year Miami is a lock to win 55 games with Chris Bosh leading the way. Or Love will go to LA, Kobe will get injured before Thanksgiving & Love will carry the Lakers to the Western Conference Finals. Both of those teams would be lucky to make the playoffs.
4. Why do you keep making shit up with this "he has two franchise players?". Like it's not even fun to debate things if you just make up your own shit. Love has missed the last two rounds & Kyrie has been on & off the sideline the last two rounds. You're just so angry that he's still winning, beating teams you picked to go to the Finals with JR & Dellavedova.
5. And most importantly....NIGGA....how are you trying to complain LeBron has a supporting cast when Kobe was undeniably #2 to a top ten player in the HISTORY of the NBA? Like that's the ultimate help of all-time lol.
again how is a 49 win pacer team "elite".... u not guna sit here and tell me you seriously believe the Paul George pacers are elite smh.
even if u take the shaq era out, Kobe still has wayyy more wins over 50 win teams than lebron. again, lebron has only beaten 6 50+ win teams in his entire career... it's not that impressive when u look at the facts.
lmao@this Spurs team bein better than a Spurs team when Duncan, ginobli, and Parker were all in their prime...smfh, ull say anythin at this point.
lebron played with love all season... when they lose to the Warriors, u guna say "it's cuz they didn't have love".....so which is it?? lol .. get off his nuts
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if kevin love becomes a laker NIK is going to say he's the best big man in the game ::)
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if kevin love becomes a laker NIK is going to say he's the best big man in the game ::)
did i say that about pau?
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no because it would hurt your kobe narrative
Love is going to LA to be the big star there if he goes, Kobe is an old cripple now
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no because it would hurt your kobe narrative
Love is going to LA to be the big star there if he goes, Kobe is an old cripple now
so either im guna downplay love or im guna talk him up....cant be both my ficca
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I honestly hope Love goes to Houston. A whole lot of talent, not one of them knows how to win when needed and no heart between Love and Howard.
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NIK doesn't get it
i'm saying, you're going to kiss Love's ass because he's be the only good player there when Kobe is long gone
Okafor is gonna suck
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2015 playoff leaders after 3 rounds:
Points
1. James Harden ▪ HOU 462
2. Stephen Curry ▪ GSW 438
3. LeBron James ▪ CLE 386
4. Blake Griffin ▪ LAC 357
5. Klay Thompson ▪ GSW 296
6. Dwight Howard ▪ HOU 278
7. Jimmy Butler ▪ CHI 275
8. Jeff Teague ▪ ATL 269
9. Chris Paul ▪ LAC 265
10. Derrick Rose ▪ CHI 244
Total Rebounds
1. Dwight Howard ▪ HOU 238
2. DeAndre Jordan ▪ LAC 187
3. Blake Griffin ▪ LAC 178
4. Draymond Green ▪ GSW 162
5. LeBron James ▪ CLE 146
6. Paul Millsap ▪ ATL 139
7. Tristan Thompson ▪ CLE 138
Al Horford ▪ ATL 138
9. Joakim Noah ▪ CHI 132
10. Andrew Bogut ▪ GSW 129
Assists
1. James Harden ▪ HOU 128
2. LeBron James ▪ CLE 116
3. Jeff Teague ▪ ATL 107
4. Chris Paul ▪ LAC 105
5. Stephen Curry ▪ GSW 96
6. Blake Griffin ▪ LAC 86
7. John Wall ▪ WAS 83
8. Draymond Green ▪ GSW 79
9. Derrick Rose ▪ CHI 78
10. Dennis Schroder ▪ ATL 62
Blocks
1. Dwight Howard ▪ HOU 39
2. DeAndre Jordan ▪ LAC 33
3. Andrew Bogut ▪ GSW 29
4. Timofey Mozgov ▪ CLE 27
5. Al Horford ▪ ATL 23
6. Pau Gasol ▪ CHI 21
7. Marc Gasol ▪ MEM 19
8. Draymond Green ▪ GSW 18
Tristan Thompson ▪ CLE 18
LeBron James ▪ CLE 18
Steals
1. Trevor Ariza ▪ HOU 30
2. Jimmy Butler ▪ CHI 29
3. Stephen Curry ▪ GSW 28
James Harden ▪ HOU 28
5. Draymond Green ▪ GSW 25
LeBron James ▪ CLE 25
Paul Millsap ▪ ATL 25
8. Jeff Teague ▪ ATL 24
Tony Allen ▪ MEM 24
10. Dwight Howard ▪ HOU 23
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NIK doesn't get it
i'm saying, you're going to kiss Love's ass because he's be the only good player there when Kobe is long gone
Okafor is gonna suck
if he's good and helps us win, I'll show him all the love in the world. if he sucks and we don't make playoffs, I'll shit on him .. quite simple, young hack
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you'll just have to remember he ain't on Lebron's level 8)
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U MEAN THE GOAT?
(http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmkjpwbjh01qh9wcto1_500.jpg)
(http://s28.postimg.org/7vmgqsb7h/bq8s8.png)
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1. Yes...the Pacers were a top 5 team in basketball both years prior to this one. That was my first sentence lmao. The East is weaker, there is no doubt about it. But that doesn't mean anything. It's just the latest argument of the week for you. This "LeBron never beat 50 50+ win teams"...yeah, LeBron also didn't play second fiddle to the greatest center ever for three rings.
2. Kobe Shaq beat those older Spurs teams...but the recent team with Kawhi is easily better than those older teams.
3. The term "franchise" player is used when you see it fit, but highly overused. Franchise player means you can build a franchise around these guys & win games. Bosh did shit in Toronto outside of personal/statistical success. They couldn't BUILD a franchise around him. Love got ripped apart all season for proving he wasn't as great & special of a #1 player as being alone on an island in Minnesota made him look. Those guys are all-stars, but you try to hype them up like next year Miami is a lock to win 55 games with Chris Bosh leading the way. Or Love will go to LA, Kobe will get injured before Thanksgiving & Love will carry the Lakers to the Western Conference Finals. Both of those teams would be lucky to make the playoffs.
4. Why do you keep making shit up with this "he has two franchise players?". Like it's not even fun to debate things if you just make up your own shit. Love has missed the last two rounds & Kyrie has been on & off the sideline the last two rounds. You're just so angry that he's still winning, beating teams you picked to go to the Finals with JR & Dellavedova.
5. And most importantly....NIGGA....how are you trying to complain LeBron has a supporting cast when Kobe was undeniably #2 to a top ten player in the HISTORY of the NBA? Like that's the ultimate help of all-time lol.
again how is a 49 win pacer team "elite".... u not guna sit here and tell me you seriously believe the Paul George pacers are elite smh.
even if u take the shaq era out, Kobe still has wayyy more wins over 50 win teams than lebron. again, lebron has only beaten 6 50+ win teams in his entire career... it's not that impressive when u look at the facts.
lmao@this Spurs team bein better than a Spurs team when Duncan, ginobli, and Parker were all in their prime...smfh, ull say anythin at this point.
lebron played with love all season... when they lose to the Warriors, u guna say "it's cuz they didn't have love".....so which is it?? lol .. get off his nuts
2013-2014 the Pacers won 56 games & the year before that 49 win Pacers team was better than the 57 win Nuggets. If you don't understand that, you just don't understand the NBA.
Nigga, it's so simple, yet your feeble basketball mind & desire to make a point against LeBron refuses to process it. Regular season wins don't mean anything. So many teams were better than those 60 win Suns teams with Nash & Amare. LeBron James took off two weeks this season. Last year Wade missed like 30 games with Miami. Teams coast, rest players, teams aren't gunning for 68 wins & tiring out for the playoffs. Pop got fined for straight up resting his starting 5. The sooner you realize you're just cooking with some home made stat you probably came across on a Lakers forum that nobody really takes into account, the sooner you won't be recognized as the most bitter man on the planet for Kobe getting leapfrogged.
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can't wait for this series to start
finals rookies vs finals rookies (Except Lebron)
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the year before that 49 win Pacers team was better than the 57 win Nuggets. If you don't understand that, you just don't understand the NBA.
CHAM'S DUMBASS IN A NUTSHELL
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i'd take the 49 win pacers team over that nuggets team if they played in a 7 game series
pacers would slow that shit down
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pg allen iverson
sg jr smith
sf carmelo anthony
pf kenyon martin
c nene
yea, i think im goin nuggets over paul george and lance stephenson lmao
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old man iverson and melo were all about scoring - a strong defense would shut them down. jr would throw a temper tantrum from not getting the ball and they'd implde lol
and remember, i don't think Paul George is all that great. he's a very very good player but he was over rated last year.
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old man iverson and melo were all about scoring - a strong defense would shut them down. jr would throw a temper tantrum from not getting the ball and they'd implde lol
and remember, i don't think Paul George is all that great. he's a very very good player but he was over rated last year.
YEA OK, THAT NUGGET TEAM WOULD RUN ALL OVER THEM, AND U KNOW IT
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meh, we'll never know. i tend to think that the defensive team wins 3/4 of the time though.
*except in Roger Goodell era football
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pg allen iverson
sg jr smith
sf carmelo anthony
pf kenyon martin
c nene
yea, i think im goin nuggets over paul george and lance stephenson lmao
http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/DEN/2013.html
Yeah, I think I'm going Pacers over Ty Lawson & Kenneth Faried lmao.
That was a cute try, but this roster pretty much discredits your entire "50 win team" argument. Lost in the first round to a Warriors team where Klay was still figuring out how he could score the basketball outside of a three & Draymon averaged 3ppg lmaooooo.
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the idea of AI and Melo together was sick, i was rooting for them
but we all knew how it would turn out come playoff time, when real defense is played
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http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/05/31/kevin-love-on-if-he-plans-to-play-next-season-for-the-cavaliers-yes-sir/?ocid=Yahoo&partner=ya5nbcs
8) Tristan Thompson is a lock for 6th man of the year next year lol just kidding
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pg allen iverson
sg jr smith
sf carmelo anthony
pf kenyon martin
c nene
yea, i think im goin nuggets over paul george and lance stephenson lmao
http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/DEN/2013.html
Yeah, I think I'm going Pacers over Ty Lawson & Kenneth Faried lmao.
That was a cute try, but this roster pretty much discredits your entire "50 win team" argument. Lost in the first round to a Warriors team where Klay was still figuring out how he could score the bask
etball outside of a three & Draymon averaged 3ppg lmaooooo.
that's a completely different nuggets team idiot
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U MEAN THE GOAT?
(http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmkjpwbjh01qh9wcto1_500.jpg)
(http://s28.postimg.org/7vmgqsb7h/bq8s8.png)
so nothing about Kobe going 8 for 25 against the Pistons in the finals with 3 HOFers? or going 4-13 with 11 points the game before??
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as i already mentioned, the laker team vs pistons ALL underachieved. the blame couldnt be placed on one single person...if anything, shaq's terrible d was the main culprit.
now, in lebrons curious case of the 2011 finals, everyone was beastin and he flat out let them down single-handedly.
dont even try comparin.
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what about when the Celtics kicked the Lakers ass in '08? Kobe was a bum.
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what about when the Celtics kicked the Lakers ass in '08? Kobe was a bum.
Nah, Kobe was the only Laker fighting. The rest played scared against the big 3. Gasol got punked by Kendrick Perkins. Which if you look at Perkin's career after he left Boston, you realize he wasn't that good to punk a future hall of famer,
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pg allen iverson
sg jr smith
sf carmelo anthony
pf kenyon martin
c nene
yea, i think im goin nuggets over paul george and lance stephenson lmao
http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/DEN/2013.html
Yeah, I think I'm going Pacers over Ty Lawson & Kenneth Faried lmao.
That was a cute try, but this roster pretty much discredits your entire "50 win team" argument. Lost in the first round to a Warriors team where Klay was still figuring out how he could score the bask
etball outside of a three & Draymon averaged 3ppg lmaooooo.
that's a completely different nuggets team idiot
LOL, WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU SAYING NIGGA?
You talked down about the 49 win Pacer team that year. IN THE SAME YEAR, ^^^^^THAT Nuggets team won 57 games.
'12-'13 Pacers >>> '12-'13 Nuggets.
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pg allen iverson
sg jr smith
sf carmelo anthony
pf kenyon martin
c nene
yea, i think im goin nuggets over paul george and lance stephenson lmao
http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/DEN/2013.html
Yeah, I think I'm going Pacers over Ty Lawson & Kenneth Faried lmao.
That was a cute try, but this roster pretty much discredits your entire "50 win team" argument. Lost in the first round to a Warriors team where Klay was still figuring out how he could score the bask
etball outside of a three & Draymon averaged 3ppg lmaooooo.
that's a completely different nuggets team idiot
LOL, WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU SAYING NIGGA?
You talked down about the 49 win Pacer team that year. IN THE SAME YEAR, ^^^^^THAT Nuggets team won 57 games.
'12-'13 Pacers >>> '12-'13 Nuggets.
A TEAM THAT WON 49 GAMES IN THE EAST IS SUPERIOR TO A TEAM THAT WON 57 GAMES IN THE WEST? DO U HEAR HOW RETARDED U SOUND?? SMFH
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PG TY LAWSON...ANDRE MILLER
SG ANDRE IGUODALA...COREY BREWER
SF DANILO GALINARI...WILSON CHANDLER
PF KENNETH FARRIED...KOSTA KOUFOS
C JAVALE MCGEE...TIMOFEY MOZGOV
VS
PG GEORGE HILL...DJ AUGUSTIN
SG LANCE STEPHENSON...SAM YOUNG
SF PAUL GOERGE...GERALD GREEN
PF DAVID WEST...TYLER HANSBROUGH
C ROY HIBBERT...IAN MANHIMI
LMAO NUGGETS BETTER AT EVERY POSITION OUTSIDE OF SMALL FORWARD, THAT BENCH IS BETTER THAN SOME NBA STARTING FIVES. GODAMN U TRY WAY TOO HARD WHEN STICKIN UP FOR LEBRON
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i'd take the Pacers team - again they play defense. Defense wins playoff games.
*except for the D'antoni suns
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THAT NUGGETS TEAM WAS BUILT ON D... IGUODALA FARRIED AND MCGEE ARE ALL GREAT DEFENSIVE PLAY CHACK
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meh, Javale Mcgee has the attention span of a pack of crayons
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50 hours til tip off
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Damn, this nigga will really say anything. Can't even respond. Nigga just posted both rosters, Pacers clearly had a better one & still said that he'd take those Nuggets over the Pacers...good God, a response is unwarranted.
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not as bad as calling the thunder "finals rookies" :laugh:
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not as bad as calling the thunder "finals rookies" :laugh:
So are the Warriors.
So were the Pacers in 2000, the 76ers in 2001, the Nets in 2002 & the Magic in 2009.
Man has over 1,000 quotables of sheer stupidity.
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same with the '08 Celtics who dismantled the Lakers in the finals 8)
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same with the '08 Celtics who dismantled the Lakers in the finals 8)
Because they were at full strength. 2010 was a lock with Perkins in Game 7.
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same with the '08 Celtics who dismantled the Lakers in the finals 8)
Because they were at full strength. 2010 was a lock with Perkins in Game 7.
That injury was awful.
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not as bad as calling the thunder "finals rookies" :laugh:
THE TRUTH IS ONLY BAD TO AN IDIOT
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Damn, this nigga will really say anything. Can't even respond. Nigga just posted both rosters, Pacers clearly had a better one & still said that he'd take those Nuggets over the Pacers...good God, a response is unwarranted.
LOL@THE PACERS ROSTER IS BETTER LMFAO, THE NUGGETS BENCH WAS THE BEST IN THE LEAGUE THAT YEAR
YOU PICK A 49 WIN EAST TEAM OVER A 57 WIN WEST TEAM TO CAPE FOR LEBRON
THE PROOF IS IN THE PUDDING
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not as bad as calling the thunder "finals rookies" :laugh:
THE TRUTH IS ONLY BAD TO AN IDIOT
the truth is "finals rookies" is the worst excuse ever made.
were the '08 Celtics finals rookies? cuz they kicked Kobe and his wack ass team all over the court 8)
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You just need the 57 win Nuggets to "be better" because otherwise is flaws your entire argument. Every nigga sees that.
7 game series, Pacers in 6, easy.
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whatifsports predicts the Pacers beat the Nuggets 4-2 in a best of 7 series
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not as bad as calling the thunder "finals rookies" :laugh:
THE TRUTH IS ONLY BAD TO AN IDIOT
the truth is "finals rookies" is the worst excuse ever made.
were the '08 Celtics finals rookies? cuz they kicked Kobe and his wack ass team all over the court 8)
ITS NOT AN EXCUSE, IT'S 100% TRUE...OKC LOST BECAUSE THEY HAD ABSOLUTELY NO EXPERIENCE. WHAT IS SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT THAT?
I ADMIT THAT THE SIXERS, NETS, AND MAGIC TEAM THAT THE LAKERS BEAT DIDNT HAVE EXPERIENCE EITHER....WHY CANT U DO THE SAME? DONT BE A BEIBER
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You just need the 57 win Nuggets to "be better" because otherwise is flaws your entire argument. Every nigga sees that.
7 game series, Pacers in 6, easy.
49 WINS IN THE EAST IS LIKE 42 WINS IN THE WEST, TOPS......
57 WINS IN THE WEST IS LIKE 64 WINS IN THE EAST, MINIMUM.....
SO ESSENTIALLY, U SAYIN THAT A 42 WIN TEAM IS BETTER THAN A 64 WIN TEAM TO KEEP THIS SHAMELESS LEBRON DICKSUCKIN GOIN ON. IT'S EMBARRASSING.
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whatifsports predicts the Pacers beat the Nuggets 4-2 in a best of 7 series
WHY U LYIN THO? I JUST PUT IT IN THEIR SIMULATOR AND DENVER WINS 120-114
LEBRON FANS LOSE AGAIN
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not as bad as calling the thunder "finals rookies" :laugh:
THE TRUTH IS ONLY BAD TO AN IDIOT
the truth is "finals rookies" is the worst excuse ever made.
were the '08 Celtics finals rookies? cuz they kicked Kobe and his wack ass team all over the court 8)
ITS NOT AN EXCUSE, IT'S 100% TRUE...OKC LOST BECAUSE THEY HAD ABSOLUTELY NO EXPERIENCE. WHAT IS SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT THAT?
I ADMIT THAT THE SIXERS, NETS, AND MAGIC TEAM THAT THE LAKERS BEAT DIDNT HAVE EXPERIENCE EITHER....WHY CANT U DO THE SAME? DONT BE A BEIBER
OKC had been together as a core in the playoffs for 3 years, get the fuck outta here :laugh:
just because it was their first finals doesn't mean they have an excuse to lose - they even won game 1
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not as bad as calling the thunder "finals rookies" :laugh:
THE TRUTH IS ONLY BAD TO AN IDIOT
the truth is "finals rookies" is the worst excuse ever made.
were the '08 Celtics finals rookies? cuz they kicked Kobe and his wack ass team all over the court 8)
ITS NOT AN EXCUSE, IT'S 100% TRUE...OKC LOST BECAUSE THEY HAD ABSOLUTELY NO EXPERIENCE. WHAT IS SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT THAT?
I ADMIT THAT THE SIXERS, NETS, AND MAGIC TEAM THAT THE LAKERS BEAT DIDNT HAVE EXPERIENCE EITHER....WHY CANT U DO THE SAME? DONT BE A BEIBER
OKC had been together as a core in the playoffs for 3 years, get the fuck outta here :laugh:
just because it was their first finals doesn't mean they have an excuse to lose - they even won game 1
THEY WERE A YOUNG TEAM AND THEY LACKED EXPERIENCE. BOTTOM LINE. VETERANS WITH LEGIT EXPERIENCE ARE VITAL TO WINNING N U DO KNO THAT.
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So 4 of 5 Kobe's rings are weak sauce that don't count. Aii, that's fine.
So LeBron got one ring from beating the Spurs, Kobe got one from beating the Celtics.
Now from there, LeBron has more MVPs & better career numbers across the board.
Easy money.
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I never said it doesn't count.. I said it's not as impressive as what Kobe did with gasol in 09-10
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I never said it doesn't count.. I said it's not as impressive as what Kobe did with gasol in 09-10
LMAO you tried to call Lebron's first title a "half a title" because there was a 16 game strike ::) ::) ::) ::)
if kobe wins during a strike season you'd make up some story about how Kobe had to hold the team together despite lack of team chemistry or some gay shit ;D
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Nigga's know his fruitiness.
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I never said it doesn't count.. I said it's not as impressive as what Kobe did with gasol in 09-10
LMAO you tried to call Lebron's first title a "half a title" because there was a 16 game strike ::) ::) ::) ::)
if kobe wins during a strike season you'd make up some story about how Kobe had to hold the team together despite lack of team chemistry or some gay shit ;D
cham does what u just mentioned to a T.....only he does it for an individual player, not a team he roots for or a player that plays for the team he roots for. on some gay shit.
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whatifsports predicts the Pacers beat the Nuggets 4-2 in a best of 7 series
WHY U LYIN THO? I JUST PUT IT IN THEIR SIMULATOR AND DENVER WINS 120-114
LEBRON FANS LOSE AGAIN
::) you have to run the simulator enough to get a best of 7 series, as i stated.
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JUST TRIED IT.... GOT DENVER NUGGETS IN 6
SPLIT THE FIRST TWO AT HOME...SPLIT BOTH GAMES ON THE ROAD...THEN DENVER WON GAME 5 AND 6
LOOK AT THE ROSTERS I POSTED AGAIN:
TY LAWSON>>>GEORGE HILL
ANDRE IGUODALA>>LANCE STEPHENSON
DANILLO GALLINARI<<<PAUL GEORGE
KENNETH FARIED>DAVID WEST
JAVALE MCGEE=ROY HIBBERT
ANDRE MILLER>>DJ AUGUSTIN
COREY BREWER>>>>>SAM YOUNG
WILSON CHANDLER>GERALD GREEN
KOSTA KOUFOS=TYLER HANSBROUGH
TIMOFEY MOZGOV>>IAN MANHIMI
GEORGE KARL>>>FRANK VOGEL
OUT OF 10 MATCH-UPS, INDIANA ONLY WINS 1
AT THE END OF THE DAY, SOME1 WHO ARGUES A 49 WIN TEAM IN THE EAST OVER A 57 WIN TEAM IN THE WEST IS A RETARD
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i am hardly impressed by a roster of Knicks throwaways
Paul George would get all the star calls if they played
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Nigga just said Iggy's better than Lance.
Nigga just put EQUAL disparity between George Hill and Ty Lawson as there is between Paul George (someone he thinks is better than LeBron James) and Danillo Gallinari.
BRUH.
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Nigga just said Iggy's better than Lance.
Nigga just put EQUAL disparity between George Hill and Ty Lawson as there is between Paul George (someone he thinks is better than LeBron James) and Danillo Gallinari.
BRUH.
DID U EVEN WATCH LANCE STEPHENSON THIS YEAR? HE COULDNT EVEN SNIFF THE COURT TOWARDS THE END OF THE SEASON..HE LOOKED BETTER THAN HE IS IN INDIANA. IGGY IS 10 TIMES THE PLAYER LANCE IS AND U KNOW IT (ARENT U A FUCKIN PHILLY FAN?). IF U TRULY DONT THINK IGGY IS BETTER THAN LANCE, THERES YET ANOTHER THING TO ADD TO UR IDIOT LIST.
TY LAWSON IS AN 18-9 GUY = A BORDERLINE ALL-STAR....GEORGE HILL IS A DECENT ROLE PLAYER
DANILO GALLINARI IN 2012-2013 AVERAGED 16-5 AND WAS A BORDERLINE ALL-STAR BEFORE THE INJURY (SCORED 47 IN A GAME VS THE MAVS JUST A COUPLE MONTHS BACK)......PAUL GEORGE IN 2012-2013 WAS A CLOSE 17-6 AND JUST COMING INTO HIS OWN, NOT YET THE ALL-STAR PAUL GEORGE OF THE FOLLOWING SEASON. SO 3 TIMES BETTER IS ABOUT RIGHT......
AT THE END OF THE DAY, AGAIN, YOU'RE AN IDIOT FOR ARGUING THAT A 49 WIN EAST TEAM > 57 WIN WEST TEAM. AND THATS GIVING U THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT, BECAUSE I CAN JUST AS EASILY REVERT BACK TO 2011 FORM AND SAY THAT U SIMPLY BEIN TOO GAY FOR LEBRON. SO JUST TAKE IDIOT AND BE HAPPY.
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what does Lance in 2015 have to do with Lance in 2012???
excuses man, smh
funny thing is NIK is rooting for a Cali team that isn't the Lakers - a whole shitload of people in Cali will be Curry and Warrior fans over Laker fans if he wins a title this year hahahahaha ;D
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HACK SHUT UP SON
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GAME 1 TONIGHT
NIK THE NEW WARRIORS FAN 8)
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just picked up about 10 bucks of wings + ordering a pizza around 8:30 so it arrives right around game time tonight
NBA Finals is here 8)
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what does Lance in 2015 have to do with Lance in 2012???
He needs to reach. He said I should "know Iggy is better because I'm a 76ers fan" because between '06-'10 he looked like he would be a strong #2. He's in denial.
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what does Lance in 2015 have to do with Lance in 2012???
He needs to reach. He said I should "know Iggy is better because I'm a 76ers fan" because between '06-'10 he looked like he would be a strong #2. He's in denial.
I still love the "well where's Gasol now? Where's Artest and Odoom now? Kobe carried these bums"
or more like they aged as humans do and are no longer in the NBA ::)
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what does Lance in 2015 have to do with Lance in 2012???
He needs to reach. He said I should "know Iggy is better because I'm a 76ers fan" because between '06-'10 he looked like he would be a strong #2. He's in denial.
so u think lance stephenson is a better player than andre iguodala and u not just sayin that 2 cape for lebron?
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what does Lance in 2015 have to do with Lance in 2012???
He needs to reach. He said I should "know Iggy is better because I'm a 76ers fan" because between '06-'10 he looked like he would be a strong #2. He's in denial.
I still love the "well where's Gasol now? Where's Artest and Odoom now? Kobe carried these bums"
or more like they aged as humans do and are no longer in the NBA ::)
no way?!
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NIK THE 2015 WARRIORS FAN
;D
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HACK THE 2007 KNICKS FAN
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NIK LOGIC:
2013: Durant is better than Lebron
2014: George is better than Lebron
2015: PLEASE STEPH, WE NEED YOU :laugh:
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HACK SERIOUSLY STFU LOL
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HACK SERIOUSLY STFU LOL
:laugh:
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can't wait for the NIK anti lebron spin for this game ;D
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u know its comin
choke factor in full effect. Lebron had a chance to win at the buzzer and sucked in the final 2 minutes and overtime. but the apologists like Cham guna see the stats and say "oh but he did everything he could" .. well he didn't come thru when it counted. bottom line.
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YEAH
LEBRON SCORED 40 POINTS AND THE TEAM WENT TO OT BUT BECAUSE YOU KNOW HE'S PLAYING WITH 2000 SHAQ HE FAILED TOW IN THE GAME MEAN WHILE NIK GOT HIS WARRIORS TIX IN HAND - GONNA SELL HIS LAKER TIX TO ROCCY
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One play at the beginning of ot let me know LeBron wasn't going to save the Cavs. When he drove the lane, got all the way in and then kicked the ball back out to the three point line.
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u know its comin
choke factor in full effect. Lebron had a chance to win at the buzzer and sucked in the final 2 minutes and overtime. but the apologists like Cham guna see the stats and say "oh but he did everything he could" .. well he didn't come thru when it counted. bottom line.
Amen.
I love Lebron's game. Incredible. But when his fans try to put him in the GOAT conversation, he's going to be under some intense scrutiny. Even with the incredible stat line he had, he deserves some shit for falling back when it mattered most. Why in the hell is a 30 yr old Lebron settling for a 24 ft fall away with the chance to win Game 1 on the road vs GS? He didn't even attempt to make his way to the rim.
For context, if MJ is in that situation, he might, at age 35, settle for his indefensible fadeaway, but he's going to start that sequence off by making some moves toward the basket. Either head up or by backing the defender down. At no point in time would MJ ever ever ever ever go straight to a fall away from that far out. Not one time out of 1000 would he. Same with Kobe
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we gotta wait til fuckin sunday night for game 2? jesus, all about the ratings.
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He's too good.
lol @ NIK & this random ass nigga manny criticizing his game. Son hit a huge 3 late in the game, called him a choke because he didn't hit a fadeaway three with no time left.
NIK would literally go full Caitlyn Jenner if that's what it took for LeBron to lose this series though. He'd never recover from LeBron averaging at least 35 a game, with this cast of absolute characters. You can make a strong argument 2007 was a better roster.
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CAVS WERE IN A POSITION TO WIN AND LEBRON DIDNT COME THRU WHEN IT COUNTED IDIOT. WHAT DONT U GET?
I SEE U BEEN HAVIN AN OBSESSION WIT BRUCE JENNER LATELY. THIS AINT THE FIRST TIME U USED HIM FOR AN ANALOGY. THERE SOMETHIN U FINALLY WANNA TELL US CHAM?
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lol @ NIK & this random ass nigga manny criticizing his game. Son hit a huge 3 late in the game, called him a choke because he didn't hit a fadeaway three with no time left.
I criticized his shot selection (read : being a pussy with the game on the line) not the fact he missed the shot. That's exactly my point: don't take a difficult ass 24 ft shot falling away. GO TO THE RIM. Lebron apologists are mad sensitive .... I started that post by saying he's incredible!
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Kyrie out for rest of NBA Finals
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lol @ NIK & this random ass nigga manny criticizing his game. Son hit a huge 3 late in the game, called him a choke because he didn't hit a fadeaway three with no time left.
I criticized his shot selection (read : being a pussy with the game on the line) not the fact he missed the shot. That's exactly my point: don't take a difficult ass 24 ft shot falling away. GO TO THE RIM. Lebron apologists are mad sensitive .... I started that post by saying he's incredible!
I agree, he could of drove, but he typically takes a fall away jumper in that situation. If he scored 15 points on 7-32 shooting, I'd have a problem with that.
Every player in the NBA does the same shit. It aggravates the fuck out of me, but what can you do? They dribble at the top of the key for eleven seconds, leave themselves six seconds to make a move.
But he took the shot people were crying about for years. He could of drew up a play where he drove, five Warriors collapsed on him, kicked it out to like Iman Shumpert & that would of been a "poor decision" too.
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lol @ NIK & this random ass nigga manny criticizing his game. Son hit a huge 3 late in the game, called him a choke because he didn't hit a fadeaway three with no time left.
I criticized his shot selection (read : being a pussy with the game on the line) not the fact he missed the shot. That's exactly my point: don't take a difficult ass 24 ft shot falling away. GO TO THE RIM. Lebron apologists are mad sensitive .... I started that post by saying he's incredible!
I agree, he could of drove, but he typically takes a fall away jumper in that situation. If he scored 15 points on 7-32 shooting, I'd have a problem with that.
Every player in the NBA does the same shit. It aggravates the fuck out of me, but what can you do? They dribble at the top of the key for eleven seconds, leave themselves six seconds to make a move.
But he took the shot people were crying about for years. He could of drew up a play where he drove, five Warriors collapsed on him, kicked it out to like Iman Shumpert & that would of been a "poor decision" too.
sound like a buncha excuses to me
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sounds like a bunch of senseless hating to me
Jay Mohr and Charles Barkley were talking today about how "anyone who blames Lebron is a card carrying idiot" ;D
and Jay Mohr loves him some Kobe Bryant, he's no Lebron apologist
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30 hours til tip off
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CHARLES BARKLEY LMAO
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who's opinion matters more, Charles Barkley or Sccit Bayless
hmmmm
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i thought it was already a known fact that whatever barkley says, it's usually the opposite....u can always count on casual basketball fans like hack to take his analysis with 100% seriousness
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He's actually usually on point. He just sounds crazy off the jump. But in the end, son proves true. He got ripped by other analysts for saying Hawks/Nets would go past 4 games.
Dellavedova...occasionally James Jones; move LeBron to PG.
Shump
JR
LeBron
Mozgov/Thompson...sometimes both on the floor with Shumpert or Dellavedova sitting.
Team on the floor for 98% of the rest of the series. This will be the greatest feat in NBA history.
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i take Chuck over Sccit any day of the week
One played the game, one called himself the White Kobe 14 years ago ;D
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next thing you know Sccit will tell us Michael Thompson is better than Barkley because he was a Laker ;D
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Kyrie out for rest of NBA Finals
That & the cavs playing like me[I really suck at basketball] in OT proves that god's grudge against cleveland continues :(
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that's why chuck was a loser, just like your idol lebron
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a 2 time finals MVP is a loser ;D
this is a great week for weak quotes by Laker fans
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2/6 PLAYIN ON ALL-STAR SQUADS....SHOULD BE 1/6 SAVE FOR A RAY ALLEN 3
LOSER FSHEEZ
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what'd Ray Allen do in game 7 Sccit Bayless?
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lol, he called 2007 & this year an "all-star team".
Straight Bayless.
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BEFORE BEING TRADED TO CLEVELAND, LARRY HUGHES AVERAGED 22-6-5 WITH AN NBA LEADING 3 STEALS PER GAME....NEXT TO LEBRON, SON WAS RENDERED USELESS.
ILGAUSKAS WAS ALSO A 2 TIME ALL-STAR STILL IN HIS PRIME
ERIC SNOW WAS THE STARTING POINT GUARD ON A FINALS TEAM BEFORE HE TEAMED UP WITH LEBRON
DREW GOODEN WAS A GOOD STARTING POWER FORWARD, UP UNTIL HIS STINT IN CLEVELAND...AGAIN, ANOTHER CASE OF LEBRON MAKING HIS TEAMMATES LOOK WORSE THAN THEY ACTUALLY ARE.
SO THEY HAD A STARTING 5 OF
PG ERIC SNOW (SECOND FINALS STARTING GIG)
SG LARRY HUGHES (ALL-STAR CALIBER PLAYER WHO LED THE LEAGUE IN STEALS THE PREVIOUS SEASON)
SF LEBRON
PF DREW GOODEN (GOOD STARTING PF)
C ILGAUSKAS (2 TIME ALL-STAR IN HIS PRIME)
..BUT WE GUNA SIT HERE AND ACT LIKE HE PLAYED WIT A STARTING 5 CONSISTING OF LUKE WALTON, KWAME BROWN, AND SMUSH PARKER. LEBRON APOLOGISTS STAY DOWNPLAYING HIS TEAMMATES TO MAKE EXCUSES. WERE THEY THE BEST TEAM EVER? NO...BUT NOT NEARLY AS BAD AS LEBRON GROUPIES TRY TO MAKE EM OUT TO BE.
AS FOR THIS YEAR, HE PLAYED THE ENTIRE YEAR WITH LOVE AND IRVING. 2 SUPERSTARS. NOW THAT HE DOESNT HAVE THEM, HE'S BEIN EXOSED, WHICH IS EXACTLY MY POINT.
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what'd Ray Allen do in game 7 Sccit Bayless?
RAY ALLEN GOT THEM TO GAME 7, YOUNG HACK
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so what did Ray do in game 7?
also, what did Lebron do?
please answer me, old Sccit
#cavswin
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KING JAMES with another triple double - first NBA finals to go to OT both of the first 2 games
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GOAT.
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GOAT.
BUT LEBRON SUCKS PLAYING WITH JR SMITH AND SHUMPERT, CARMELO GOT THEM TO WIN A TITLE RIGHT?
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lol, dude...straight facts, there's nothing to even say about it. There is literally no way in the world any player could possibly win an NBA Finals game with this team. This was amazing.
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he's sleeping on it right now but you know NIK got an excuse come tmrw
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GOAT.
YOUR GOAT CHOKED AGAIN IN THE CLUTCH...WENT 4-15 IN REGULATION DOWN THE STRETCH TO CHOKE AWAY AN 11 POINT LEAD. THEN TURNED THE BALL OVER A BUNCHA TIMES, GETTING RIPPED BY IGGY LIKE IT WAS NOTHIN. THEN MISSED THE GAME-WINNING LAYUP OPPORTUNITY. THEN MISSED ANOTHER TWO GAME-WINNING OPPORTUNITIES DOWN THE STRETCH, ONLY TO GET BAILED OUT BY A LOOSE BALL FOUL ON DELLEVADOVA....LMFAO. I KNOW U SAW IT.
JUST LUCKY STEPHEN CURRY HAD THE WORST GAME OF HIS CAREER
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lol, dude...straight facts, there's nothing to even say about it. There is literally no way in the world any player could possibly win an NBA Finals game with this team. This was amazing.
YEA LETS JUST PRETEND LIKE CAVS SUPPORTING CAST DIDNT OUTPERFORM GOLDEN STATES TODAY..LMFAO. OK.
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Klay is "supporting cast"...he put up 34 on 50% shooting lmfao. If LeBron had that, he'd be up 2-0 right now.
If you can't admit JR's three lazy fouls was the reason it was even close in the end, I just can't put the effort in to someone who blatantly hating on a performance better than anything Kobe has brought to the table.
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Lebron choked all the way to a win ;D
the new excuses this guy comes up with have me laughin for days :laugh:
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Klay is "supporting cast"...he put up 34 on 50% shooting lmfao. If LeBron had that, he'd be up 2-0 right now.
If you can't admit JR's three lazy fouls was the reason it was even close in the end, I just can't put the effort in to someone who blatantly hating on a performance better than anything Kobe has brought to the table.
SO LEBRON DIDNT HAVE A TERRIBLE 4TH QUARTER AND OT THAT WOULDA LOST THE GAME IF IT WASNT FOR A LOOSE BALL FOUL ON DELLEVADOVA? LETS JUST SEE HOW MUCH OF A GROUPIE U ARE............
A 31% SHOOTING NIGHT FROM THE FIELD IS BETTER THAN ANYTHING KOBE HAS DONE? 2-15 FROM THE FIELD DOWN THE STRETCH IS BETTER THAN ANYTHING KOBE HAS DONE?? BEIN GUARDED ONE ON ONE AND GETTIN RIPPED TIME N TIME AGAIN IS BETTER THAN ANYTHING KOBE HAS DONE?? U JUST SAYIN THAT CUZ U WERENT OLD ENOUGH TO WATCH KOBE IN HIS PRIME. BUT U THE SAME CAT WHO TALKS SHIT ON KOBE'S GAME 7 VS BOSTON BECAUSE OF SHOOTING PERCENTAGE...SO WHAT NOW? DONT EVER TALK ABOUT "HOLES" IN AN ARGUMENT AGAIN AFTER THIS 1.
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LOL @ ONE ON ONE.
Bro, I'd rather have Smush Parker & Luke Walton. Nigga, Kobe played like absolute shit in Game 7 vs. Boston. To the point if he wasn't Kobe Bryant, Phil would of taken him out of the game. LeBron struggled due to triple teams & literally being the ENTIRE TEAM for 4 quarters + overtime. Not having Pau Gasol bail him out four quarters. Not having Ron Artest put up 20+. Just him.
All you ever talk about is how Ray Allen & now Dellevedova "saved him" or "bailed him out". Those are two plays similar to what Derek Fisher & Robert Horry had done for the Lakers at one point. But how about the fact LeBron doesn't have the greatest center ever putting up 30+ & winning 3 Finals MVPs over him? Or Pau Gasol throwing up at least 20 & 10 every game. Son was the entire team, start to finish. That's the difference. Kobe was the best player on the best team, LeBron is the best player on the planet playing with guys who wouldn't start on the 76ers & were actually traded away by the Knicks just to get rid of them.
There is no Finals game you can post of Kobe's that compares. You just say "oh, you were just too young"...that's a cop out. I watched all those Lakers teams. You just can't handle the truth & it kills you, bruh.
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I just want to remind everybody that Kobe shot 21-62 in the last 3 games of the 2008 NBA finals
and that was with an all star big man plus Lamar Odom and one of the best 3 coaches of all time, not "finals rookies" like Mosgov and Tristan Thompson and a buffoon from Europe
but let Sccit Bayless try to cook, this thread is hilarious at this point :laugh:
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He's going to credit Kendrick Perkins for being a "good teammate", sitting on the bench & not complaining over LeBron if they win this series.
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He's going to credit Kendrick Perkins for being a "good teammate", sitting on the bench & not complaining over LeBron if they win this series.
the same Perkins who's injury cost the Celtics another ring
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less than 5 hours until tip off 8)
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He's going to credit Kendrick Perkins for being a "good teammate", sitting on the bench & not complaining over LeBron if they win this series.
the same Perkins who's injury cost the Celtics another ring
Hey, Both Perkins and Bynum were out game 7 of that series. Acting like Perkins was the only one out. Bynum was more important to what LA did than Perkins was for Boston.
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LOL @ ONE ON ONE.
Bro, I'd rather have Smush Parker & Luke Walton. Nigga, Kobe played like absolute shit in Game 7 vs. Boston. To the point if he wasn't Kobe Bryant, Phil would of taken him out of the game. LeBron struggled due to triple teams & literally being the ENTIRE TEAM for 4 quarters + overtime. Not having Pau Gasol bail him out four quarters. Not having Ron Artest put up 20+. Just him.
All you ever talk about is how Ray Allen & now Dellevedova "saved him" or "bailed him out". Those are two plays similar to what Derek Fisher & Robert Horry had done for the Lakers at one point. But how about the fact LeBron doesn't have the greatest center ever putting up 30+ & winning 3 Finals MVPs over him? Or Pau Gasol throwing up at least 20 & 10 every game. Son was the entire team, start to finish. That's the difference. Kobe was the best player on the best team, LeBron is the best player on the planet playing with guys who wouldn't start on the 76ers & were actually traded away by the Knicks just to get rid of them.
There is no Finals game you can post of Kobe's that compares. You just say "oh, you were just too young"...that's a cop out. I watched all those Lakers teams. You just can't handle the truth & it kills you, bruh.
so when kobe has a poor shooting night bein triple teamed the entire night, but still grabs 17 boards, and wins the game=awful performance.
when lebron has a poor shooting night bein guarded 1-on-1 by iguodala (no double teams ever, only weakside help - theres a difference genius), puts up good popcorn stats, and wins the game=GOAT finals performance.
and then u have the nerve to claim i make double standards lmao....kobe didnt even choke away an 11 point lead and miss 3 potential game winners in that poor shooting night vs boston.
lets make it simple here.....did lebron play MUCH better in the first 3 quarters than he did in the 4th and overtime? yes or no.
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I just want to remind everybody that Kobe shot 21-62 in the last 3 games of the 2008 NBA finals
and that was with an all star big man plus Lamar Odom and one of the best 3 coaches of all time, not "finals rookies" like Mosgov and Tristan Thompson and a buffoon from Europe
but let Sccit Bayless try to cook, this thread is hilarious at this point :laugh:
the only thing hilarious is that u were the one constantly tryna discredit kobe because his shooting percentage in the game 7 vs boston, bringin it up at every chance u could.....but when it happened to lebron, "wowww!!! amazing!!!"..straight clown shit brodie.
if i was u, i'd bump all the threads in which u tryna talk shit on kobe for shooting the ball poorly and laugh at u over it, making lame jokes like "oh man, petros hackadekus with his incredible basketball wisdom once again!"
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LOL @ ONE ON ONE.
Bro, I'd rather have Smush Parker & Luke Walton. Nigga, Kobe played like absolute shit in Game 7 vs. Boston. To the point if he wasn't Kobe Bryant, Phil would of taken him out of the game. LeBron struggled due to triple teams & literally being the ENTIRE TEAM for 4 quarters + overtime. Not having Pau Gasol bail him out four quarters. Not having Ron Artest put up 20+. Just him.
All you ever talk about is how Ray Allen & now Dellevedova "saved him" or "bailed him out". Those are two plays similar to what Derek Fisher & Robert Horry had done for the Lakers at one point. But how about the fact LeBron doesn't have the greatest center ever putting up 30+ & winning 3 Finals MVPs over him? Or Pau Gasol throwing up at least 20 & 10 every game. Son was the entire team, start to finish. That's the difference. Kobe was the best player on the best team, LeBron is the best player on the planet playing with guys who wouldn't start on the 76ers & were actually traded away by the Knicks just to get rid of them.
There is no Finals game you can post of Kobe's that compares. You just say "oh, you were just too young"...that's a cop out. I watched all those Lakers teams. You just can't handle the truth & it kills you, bruh.
so when kobe has a poor shooting night bein triple teamed the entire night, but still grabs 17 boards, and wins the game=awful performance.
when lebron has a poor shooting night bein guarded 1-on-1 by iguodala (no double teams ever, only weakside help - theres a difference genius), puts up good popcorn stats, and wins the game=GOAT finals performance.
and then u have the nerve to claim i make double standards lmao....kobe didnt even choke away an 11 point lead and miss 3 potential game winners in that poor shooting night vs boston.
lets make it simple here.....did lebron play MUCH better in the first 3 quarters than he did in the 4th and overtime? yes or no.
BRUH, WHAT ARE YOU SAYING?!? LMFAO. It was beyond a "poor shooting night" for Kobe to compare the two. He played like shit for four quarters, had two other players score for him, save him & win him that game. LeBron did everything for all four quarters, even when he missed some shots late in the game. He still got to the line, still set his teammates up, still had the ball in his hand every single possession. He didn't score a measly 23 points on an equally bad percentage. It's not comparable. Outside of Mozgov in the first half, LeBron had Tristian, Shumpert, JR & Dellevedova shot a combined 25% on 39 shots. That's absurd. If Kobe got that output from Pau & Ron & company he would of lost that Game 7 by 45 points. Nigga, he wouldn't of been able to beat the Magic the year before if that's what he got from them in the Finals. You're keying in on like poor shooting down the stretch, despite getting to the line & setting up his teammates which was like 2% of the game & are just ignoring the other 98% of the game where he literally willed that game for Cleveland.
Bruh, you're just repeating yourself over & over, ignoring what you want & just trying to say "BAD FG % = BAD FG %, SAME SHIT." but there's so much more than that. If you don't understand the difference, you're not worth discussing it with.
LeBron is being forced to play this way because the other 6 players on his team can't score for their lives.
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ANSWER THE QUESTION, YES OR NO...DID HE PERFORM MUCH BETTER IN THE FIRST 3 QUARTERS THAN IN THE 4TH AND OVERTIME? QUIT BEATING AROUND THE BUSH.
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He's going to credit Kendrick Perkins for being a "good teammate", sitting on the bench & not complaining over LeBron if they win this series.
the same Perkins who's injury cost the Celtics another ring
Hey, Both Perkins and Bynum were out game 7 of that series. Acting like Perkins was the only one out. Bynum was more important to what LA did than Perkins was for Boston.
but NIK changed his tune and says Bynum was an unreliable injured bum outside of his 1 "Great" season
anyways Lebron just dominated again, time to go smoke a victory bowl
40 points, 12 rebounds, 8 assists and 4 steals despite playing with a bunch of bums. Curry even showed up for 25% of the game and wasn't enough. :pimp:
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can't wait to hear how Lebron choked this one away at the end of the 4th with those free throws he didn't miss ;D
sucks we gotta wait 2 more days til game 4 - bet the ratings will be off the hook
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ANOTHER GAME WON BY CLEVELAND'S EXCELLENT D...DAVID BLATT IS A GURU. ISRAEL STAND UP.
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GOAT.
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GOAT.
not yet
but what we're seeing is something that nobody else can do
and what Shumpert does in the 4th quarter is cringe worthy :grumpy:
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GOAT.
WHO, DAVID BLATT?
GOAT ROOKIE COACH, FOR SURE. HAS A WAYS TO GO BEFORE HE AN ALL-TIME GOAT THO.
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GOAT.
Almost not debatable.
41, 12 & 8 averaged through three games.
Winning a series with the absolute worst team of all time. At least Dellevedova stepped up tonight. Huge game, kid.
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LMAO @ thinking the coach is doing all the work. yeah, he's the only reason the Cavs are winning. not because someone is averaging a triple double with 40 points. hey Sccit, is Curry still better than Lebron?
what about Paul George? Melo? WEstbrook? ;D
this is like when you beat Sonic the Hedgehog and Dr. Robotnik is scrambling to get away at the end - that's Sccit with these finals ;D
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all the work? no...he deserves a lot of credit for his defensive schemes tho. but once again, lebron will get all the glory because of fanboys like u. lebrons usage rate is a big part of his stats. it's through the roof. he played a great game 3....but if u dont think the cavs defense is the primary cause of success here, then u simply a.don't know basketball or b.just love lebron that much where ur willing to lie to overglorify his stature.
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LMAO, so in the other thread where I was tossing out percentages of contribution, I gave Kobe 37% in the threepeat years to Shaq's 60%. If Blatt's going to get a large chunk of credit for telling the other players to run the scheme LeBron probably drew up then the revised early Laker percentages go...
Shaq - 50%
Phil - 40%
Kobe 7%
Other - 3%
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if it was up to Sccit i bet you he'd vote Delly for team MVP after 3 games :laugh:
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david blatt is the mvp so far
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LMAO, so in the other thread where I was tossing out percentages of contribution, I gave Kobe 37% in the threepeat years to Shaq's 60%. If Blatt's going to get a large chunk of credit for telling the other players to run the scheme LeBron probably drew up then the revised early Laker percentages go...
Shaq - 50%
Phil - 40%
Kobe 7%
Other - 3%
kobe n shaq were 50-50...as a matter of fact, kobe was puttin better numbers in the western conference playoffs (you know, the part that was actually challenging), while shaq feasted on the garbage eastern conference teams in games that were mostly blowouts.
lets be real for one second.
lebron 30%
matthew dellevadova 10%
cavs team d 60%
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david blatt is the mvp so far
that's like saying Roccy is the MVP of LAMB - it's a joke ;D
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"he's the best player in the world for a reason" - Andre Iguadala on Lebron James
BUT I THOUGHT STEPH CURRY WAS BETTER???
*and carmelo, george and westbrook
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"he's the best player in the world for a reason" - Andre Iguadala on Lebron James
BUT I THOUGHT STEPH CURRY WAS BETTER???
*and carmelo, george and westbrook
Curry is not doing a good job of representing himself, but he had a better season and he has more up side than LeBron, so if still give him the title best in the world. Plus it looks like LeBron may have ran out of gas.
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"he's the best player in the world for a reason" - Andre Iguadala on Lebron James
BUT I THOUGHT STEPH CURRY WAS BETTER???
*and carmelo, george and westbrook
Curry is not doing a good job of representing himself, but he had a better season and he has more up side than LeBron, so if still give him the title best in the world. Plus it looks like LeBron may have ran out of gas.
lmao he's got 2 days to rest til game 5.
"we all know you're the best player in the world" - d wade talking to lebron on ESPN
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curry been awful all series long, if this was prime kobe playin against these strugglin warriors, shit woulda been a sweep by now.
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Lmaooooo. If he had Shaq and Phil handing him the sweep, I believe it.
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Kobe won with a starting 5 of
Derek fisher
old man Ron Artest
pau gasol
Andrew Bynum (injured+before he was an all-star)
if this is how bad curry is playing vs Lebron, Kobe in his prime would own curry mentally wit mozgov, tristan, shumpert, dellevadova...amazing defensive unit and Kobe would take care of the offense. Lebron is just not a skilled offensive player, which is why he is struggling against 1-on-1 defense. Kobe in his prime would be dtoppin 50+ on me and u know it
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lmao @ how quickly NIK is to turn on Gasol
trying to downplay Artest who's the one who hit the biggest shot of the season for them ;D
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LIKE RAY ALLEN DID FOR THE HEAT? LIKE DELLEVADOVA DID FOR THE CAVS?
LOL
GASOL WAS A BLESSING TO THE LAKERS..BEFORE THAT, WE HAD KWAME BROWN AS OUR PRIMARY BIG. BUT HE IS ARGUABLY THE WORST SECOND FIDDLE IN NBA CHAMPIONSHIP HISTORY.
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that's the point :D
anytime you bring up ray ray in game 6 i can counter with artest in game 7 - lebron didn't need anyone to bail him out in a game 7
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yea but ray allen literally bailed lebron out...ron artest just made a shot off a kobe pass. big difference.
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so how was ray allen in game 7?
tip off in 3 and a half hours 8)
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22, 11 and 9 so far for King James
man this Cavs team is junk - Mozgov isn't even seeing the court since both teams are playing small, there goes one of Cleveland's few healthy players ;D ;D
if GSW wins this series and Lebron isn't still finals MVP then the award might as well have no meaning to it
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damn, Cavs gave Lebron no help at all.
40, 14 and 11 by the King - the rest of the team put up a big old piece of poop ;D
on to Cleveland for game 6 - let's hope the Cavs can extend this 8)
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he needs to shoot a higher percentage for the cavs to win
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The Cavs look overwhelmed. This is the part which Curry establishes himself and closes the series. Too many injured on Cleveland, LeBron is carrying more offense then he's use to and now Curry finally decided to play. I don't think this is going 7.
Great series by LeBron, his the only Cav I give props to. The rest disappoint me, they are better than this. But now Curry will show why he's the best player in the world today, and Golden State will show they are the best team.
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here's the real Q
if/when GSW wins how can anyone on them be voted MVP??
and i hope we get game 7 btw, that's the best thing for the NBA. Cavs gotta earn it.
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GOAT.
One way for him to get there is to become a player-coach. That would be ill. For now, though, the owner of this line in a Finals series owns that title:
6 games, 45.7 min played per game, 41 8.5 6.3,1.7 steals, 50.4% FG, 40% 3PT.
Still two games to be played. Anything can happen
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GOAT.
One way for him to get there is to become a player-coach. That would be ill. For now, though, the owner of this line in a Finals series owns that title:
6 games, 45.7 min played per game, 41 8.5 6.3,1.7 steals, 50.4% FG, 40% 3PT.
Still two games to be played. Anything can happen
let's hope. the "moving screens" have had the upper hand the past 2 games...refs giving the cavs no respect even. we'll see though.
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Everyone else shot 17/47. That's flat out embarrassing.
Could win Finals MVP if he loses. Absolutely unbelievable. He would of won the NBA Finals tonight if he had someone as simple as Wesley Matthews lol. It's gross.
Another insane performance. GOAT.
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Some posters in this thread prefer to focus on watching videos of Lebron's junk and even commenting on them
others are tuning in at tip off and not infatuated with someone's sack after 5 minutes
:laugh:
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Everyone else shot 17/47. That's flat out embarrassing.
Could win Finals MVP if he loses. Absolutely unbelievable. He would of won the NBA Finals tonight if he had someone as simple as Wesley Matthews lol. It's gross.
Another insane performance. GOAT.
or he coulda won the whole thing with one buzzer beater
might just be 2/6 in the finals soon.. officially excluded from the top tier
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No GOAT candidate has ever lost 4 of 6 finals. But i can't imagine him ever not being in the finals so he's bound to win again.
Stat of the day: delly 15 field goals, 13 turnovers in the Finals
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LeBron had a good run. I fully expect the Cavs to return next year if they resign Love, and I think they have to be favored to win. But LeBron will not go down as a top level superstar.
The first level will be: Mikan, Russell, Cousy, The Big O, West, Chamberlain, Kareem, Dr. J, Magic, Bird, Jordan, Shaq, Kobe, Duncan.
LeBron will be at that second level with, Baylor, Sam Jones, Willis Reed, Rick Barry, Walt Frazier, Pistol Pete, Walt Frazier, The Iceman, Moses Malone, Zek, Barkley, Mailman, Hakeem, KG, D-Wade.
I mean, that's a great, great level to be in. And LeBron is a Hall of Famer, and I'm pretty sure he'll bring Cleveland a title which everyone in Cleveland will be happy. He's legacy is the best player in his era, and there will be hardcore LeBron fans who put him on Mt. Rushmores. I personally admit, he is the most physically dominating player I've ever seen, I've never seen anyone so fast, strong and big all rolled into one, with that level of skill. But up until this year, it just seemed like mentally he wanted the titles to come to him, and it took him a long time to figure it out. He believed his own hype and when the media turned on him, he didn't know how to take it. He never had that killed instinct to reach that next level. I think he has now, but his time on top is very limited. I see one more title, and then he'll decline to the point that he can't carry another team.
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You trying too hard boys. He could very well threepeat the next three seasons.
Not to mention, he could very will win Game 6 and then it's a toss up Game 7.
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You trying too hard boys. He could very well threepeat the next three seasons.
Not to mention, he could very will win Game 6 and then it's a toss up Game 7.
Problem is LeBron is on the back end of 5 straight NBA Finals. He is out of gas and running on fumes. Curry looks to finally found his game. It's over. If not in Cleveland, then is surely over when they return to Oakland and the Warriors have that home court advantage. Cleveland isn't coming out of this with a win.
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Points
1. Stephen Curry ▪ GSW 569
LeBron James ▪ CLE 569
3. James Harden ▪ HOU 462
4. Klay Thompson ▪ GSW 386
5. Blake Griffin ▪ LAC 357
6. Dwight Howard ▪ HOU 278
7. Jimmy Butler ▪ CHI 275
8. Draymond Green ▪ GSW 272
9. Jeff Teague ▪ ATL 269
10. Chris Paul ▪ LAC 265
Assists
1. LeBron James ▪ CLE 160
2. James Harden ▪ HOU 128
3. Stephen Curry ▪ GSW 125
4. Jeff Teague ▪ ATL 107
5. Chris Paul ▪ LAC 105
6. Draymond Green ▪ GSW 99
7. Blake Griffin ▪ LAC 86
8. John Wall ▪ WAS 83
9. Derrick Rose ▪ CHI 78
10. Andre Iguodala ▪ GSW 70
Total Rebounds
1. Dwight Howard ▪ HOU 238
2. LeBron James ▪ CLE 208
3. Tristan Thompson ▪ CLE 203
4. Draymond Green ▪ GSW 201
5. DeAndre Jordan ▪ LAC 187
6. Blake Griffin ▪ LAC 178
7. Andrew Bogut ▪ GSW 153
8. Paul Millsap ▪ ATL 139
9. Al Horford ▪ ATL 138
10. Timofey Mozgov ▪ CLE 134
King James owning everybody - just wait til he has some team mates next year
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I don't understand why LeBron isn't getting more whistles when going to the rim. For a superstar, he gets fouled a lot without a whistle.
Anyways, the Cavs have only a shot if the undertalented roster performs above their standards, as in, JR going 8-12 from the 3 and what not.
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I don't understand why LeBron isn't getting more whistles when going to the rim. For a superstar, he gets fouled a lot without a whistle.
Anyways, the Cavs have only a shot if the undertalented roster performs about their standards, as in, JR going 8-12 from the 3 and what not.
the refs have been garbage most of this series, it's incredible.
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I don't understand why LeBron isn't getting more whistles when going to the rim. For a superstar, he gets fouled a lot without a whistle.
Anyways, the Cavs have only a shot if the undertalented roster performs about their standards, as in, JR going 8-12 from the 3 and what not.
Because the don't call fouls as much in the finals. Have you ever watched the NBA Finals? Hell, the Celtics/Lakers in 2010 looked more football than basketball.
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I don't understand why LeBron isn't getting more whistles when going to the rim. For a superstar, he gets fouled a lot without a whistle.
Anyways, the Cavs have only a shot if the undertalented roster performs about their standards, as in, JR going 8-12 from the 3 and what not.
DONT TELL ME U DIDNT SEE IGUODALA STRIPPING LEBRON CLEANLY ABOUT 5-6 TIMES THIS SERIES, ONLY TO GET CALLED FOR A FOUL....ALSO, EXPLAIN THIS:
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LOL PLEASE DONT BRING REFS INTO THIS
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Imagine LeBron getting crucial FTs after blatantly fouling someone by crushing his elbow into his face. Unthinkable for that to ever happen. Oh wait.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPl_vgWbjSM
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Lebron should be at 5,000 playoff points by halftime next game 8)
MJ's record is only 2 finals runs away, and we know the Cavs got at least 2-3 more in them with the best player in the league in his prime 8)
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Imagine LeBron getting crucial FTs after blatantly fouling someone by crushing his elbow into his face. Unthinkable for that to ever happen. Oh wait.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPl_vgWbjSM
completely irrelevant to what i was saying, the call wasnt on bibby, it was on christie on an INTENTIONAL foul...the "missed call" on bibby happens ALL THE TIME in the NBA, bibby was draped all over kobe and got hit wit an inadvertent elbow in the process.. no ref is gunna call that in the closing seconds, unless it's lebron getting hit:
(http://i.minus.com/igXOMGc9RVy9K.gif)
anyways, u really shouldnt bring kobe into this....kobe is the least respected superstar by refs of ALL TIME. if kobe was reffed the way lebron is reffed, he'd have some 40 ppg seasons under his belt.
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is Paul George still a better player than Lebron?
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Cavs are already Vegas's favorites to win the title next season ;D
just heard this on jay mohr sports
warriors 2nd, thunder 3rd
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is Paul George still a better player than Lebron?
RIGHT NOW, PAUL GEORGE WOULD BE LUCKY TO BE A BETTER PLAYER THAN JORDAN CLARKSON....SOME1 MUSTA TURNED OFF THE LIGHTS
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HACK WHY DID U DO THIS?
(http://pbs.twimg.com/media/CHkCzdjWIAA410L.png)
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because I can just get the 5 changed to a 6 next year when the Cavs are healthy and win it all
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(https://igcdn-photos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t51.2885-15/11326759_105837816422752_1985266863_n.jpg)
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they got one for you too
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=kobesexual
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LIFELONG LAKER FAN.....MAKES SENSE
THE BRONSEXUAL ONE IS FUNNY, BECAUSE IT'S ON POINT AS FAR AS YALL BEIN FANS OF WHATEVER TEAM HE'S ON LOLSMH
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Similar to how you're a Warriors fan now ;D
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NEVER THAT
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30-point triple-doubles in NBA Finals since 1955 (via @EliasSports):
• LeBron James: 3
• EVERYONE ELSE: 3
:o
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more shots missed in an NBA finals than Lebron through 5 games: nobody
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Most butt hurt posts by a Dubcc member in one NBA finals: NIK with 155 ;D
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CHgxfC3WoAAQvwV.jpg)
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;D
Game 6 tonight fellas, we gotta wait until 9 again though.
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I don't understand why LeBron isn't getting more whistles when going to the rim. For a superstar, he gets fouled a lot without a whistle.
Anyways, the Cavs have only a shot if the undertalented roster performs about their standards, as in, JR going 8-12 from the 3 and what not.
the refs have been garbage most of this series, it's incredible.
Even Van Gundy last game said he was shocked at how little LeBron got a whistle around the rim.
Guy has enough of the load to carry to begin with.
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the media rides lebron's dick? no way?!
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shame on the boy Sccit for not being able to put his hate aside for one series to recognize the greatness of "one of the best players in the nba" :grumpy: :grumpy:
son even went down to the levels of "david blatt is the series mvp" :eh: ;D
even I acknowledge the '04 red sox hahaha
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45 15 and 10 for Lebron tonight. Will it be enough ?
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45 15 and 10 for Lebron tonight. Will it be enough ?
i hope so, a game 7 is the best thing in sports (sorry Superbowl)
Cavs need the emotional lift of being at home too. I hated that they changed the 2-3-2 home c ourt format but now i can see why it works.
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lol another sub-40% performance from lebron........if kobe did this, he'd be CRUCIFIED. watch as lebron gets celebrated, maybe even wins mvp for it lmfao.
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lol @ NIK showing off his ignorance by acting like Lebron + delly + 5 bums = a legit finals team. YET this same guy wants you to think tht Pau gaol is the worst PF of all time and that Andrew Bumknree somehow is NOT the worst C o all time.....interesting....
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HACK, U TRYIN WAY TOO HARD RIGHT NOW LMAO
UNDER 40% ON SINGLE COVERAGE.....GET THAT THROUGH YOUR HEAD
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FACT: IF LEBRON DIDNT CHOKE IN GAME 1, THE CAVS WOULDA BEEN UP 3-0.........................................................U WANT TO DISPUTE THIS?
UR IN ENOUGH PAIN RIGHT NOW, DONT MAKE ME DO IT BRODIE
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http://lasvegas.suntimes.com/las-sports/7/104/218352/warriors-cavs-vegas-odds-2016
NIK thinks it's safe now but he's going to be in the same world of butt hurt for the next 2-3 seasons ;D
"DAVID BLATT IS THE FINALS MVP SO FAR" hahahahaha
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But judging by Cleveland's performance this year, if Cleveland is healthy next year, they have all the pressure in the world to win next year. And with that, I fully expect them to win. But with great expectations comes great pressure to meet those expectations.
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But judging by Cleveland's performance this year, if Cleveland is healthy next year, they have all the pressure in the world to win next year. And with that, I fully expect them to win. But with great expectations comes great pressure to meet those expectations.
I expect this upcoming to be the last year the east is a cakewalk - i predict Durant leaves when his deal is up and goes to the Wizards and that sets up some epic Cavs-Wiz matchups 8)
I wonder what the Raptors and Hawks do this off season, they've got some things to address. Oh and what're the Bulls gonna look like without Thibs? Lots of interesting questions for next year
meanwhile the Knicks will still suck with Melo and clueless Phil ;D
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i wonder if the Cavs keep Delly
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i wonder if the Cavs keep Delly
Why wouldn't they? He is cheap as fuck.
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what if someone else offers him more $$$
Jeremy Lin style ;D
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It's pretty embarrassing that NIK doesn't understand that LeBron doesn't want to be shooting 35 shots a game; nor should any player have to shoot 35 shots a game. But like Kobe's 35 game, 37% on a mere 20 per game shots this year shows, your numbers are going to drop when you're out there on an island by yourself. Especially when you're LeBron & used to passing if it means it's the best possible play you can make.
If he had the team he pretty much put together from the jump, he would of taken 22 shots a game, hit 13-14 of those shots per game, walked away with another title & then he'd just be over here saying "LOL KEVIN LOVE IS AVERAGING 18 PPG, LEBRON'S A BITCH ON AN ALL-STAR SQUAD EVEN THOUGH I SAID HE'D GET WASHED IN THE WEST!"
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It's pretty embarrassing that NIK doesn't understand that LeBron doesn't want to be shooting 35 shots a game; nor should any player have to shoot 35 shots a game. But like Kobe's 35 game, 37% on a mere 20 per game shots this year shows, your numbers are going to drop when you're out there on an island by yourself. Especially when you're LeBron & used to passing if it means it's the best possible play you can make.
If he had the team he pretty much put together from the jump, he would of taken 22 shots a game, hit 13-14 of those shots per game, walked away with another title & then he'd just be over here saying "LOL KEVIN LOVE IS AVERAGING 18 PPG, LEBRON'S A BITCH ON AN ALL-STAR SQUAD EVEN THOUGH I SAID HE'D GET WASHED IN THE WEST!"
lebron scores 19-12-12 and NIK says "HAHAHA HE COULDN'T EVEN SCORE 20 OMG HE SUX LOLZ"
lebron scores 39-16-11 and NIK says "OMG DAVID BLATT FOR MVP"
can't make this shit any funnier outside of writing in all caps like he does ;D
Lebron could score 100 in a loss and NIK would find blame :laugh:
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Son talked shit about 2013 Game 7. Better than like two of Kobe's best Finals games combined.
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Son talked shit about 2013 Game 7. Better than like two of Kobe's best Finals games combined.
FINALS ROOKIES!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
excuses man. Cavs lost this year but the fact it went game 6 is ;D for the haters - wait til next year. Lakers gonna go 32-50 in the meanwhile ::)
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If Warriors had LeBron and Cavs had Iggy, 4-0 sweep by a 40 point margin.
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It's pretty embarrassing that NIK doesn't understand that LeBron doesn't want to be shooting 35 shots a game; nor should any player have to shoot 35 shots a game. But like Kobe's 35 game, 37% on a mere 20 per game shots this year shows, your numbers are going to drop when you're out there on an island by yourself. Especially when you're LeBron & used to passing if it means it's the best possible play you can make.
If he had the team he pretty much put together from the jump, he would of taken 22 shots a game, hit 13-14 of those shots per game, walked away with another title & then he'd just be over here saying "LOL KEVIN LOVE IS AVERAGING 18 PPG, LEBRON'S A BITCH ON AN ALL-STAR SQUAD EVEN THOUGH I SAID HE'D GET WASHED IN THE WEST!"
EVEN THE FACT THAT HE THINKS HE NEEDS TO SHOOT 35 SHOTS IS RETARDED...I MEAN, IF UR HITTING AT A HIGH CLIP, GO FOR IT. BUT ONCE U REALIZE THAT IT'S NOT WORKIN OUT, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEYRE GUARDING U 1-ON-1, IT'S TIME TO GET OTHERS GOING....BUT NO, LEBRON RATHER HOLD THE BALL FOR 20 SECONDS, THEN PASS IT TO SOME1 WITH 4 SECONDS IN THE CLOCK. I WATCHED EVERY SECOND OF EVERY GAME, SO DONT TRY TELLIN ME OTHERWISE. STAT-STUFFER ASS FICCA. HE SETS NO SCREENS, DOESN'T MOVE WITHOUT THE BALL...HE SIMPLY DOES NOT ELEVATE THE PLAY OF HIS TEAM/DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO GET THE BEST OUT OF HIS TEAMMATES. LOOK AT U OVER HERE COMPARING OLD ASS KOBE TO LEBRON..THE DESPERATION POINTS NEVER CEASE TO AMAZE ME WIT U. JR SMITH CAN PUT UP 40 PPG ON 35 SHOT ATTEMPTS. DEEP DOWN IN UR HEART, U GOTA KNOW WHATS GOIN ON.
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It's pretty embarrassing that NIK doesn't understand that LeBron doesn't want to be shooting 35 shots a game; nor should any player have to shoot 35 shots a game. But like Kobe's 35 game, 37% on a mere 20 per game shots this year shows, your numbers are going to drop when you're out there on an island by yourself. Especially when you're LeBron & used to passing if it means it's the best possible play you can make.
If he had the team he pretty much put together from the jump, he would of taken 22 shots a game, hit 13-14 of those shots per game, walked away with another title & then he'd just be over here saying "LOL KEVIN LOVE IS AVERAGING 18 PPG, LEBRON'S A BITCH ON AN ALL-STAR SQUAD EVEN THOUGH I SAID HE'D GET WASHED IN THE WEST!"
lebron scores 19-12-12 and NIK says "HAHAHA HE COULDN'T EVEN SCORE 20 OMG HE SUX LOLZ"
lebron scores 39-16-11 and NIK says "OMG DAVID BLATT FOR MVP"
can't make this shit any funnier outside of writing in all caps like he does ;D
Lebron could score 100 in a loss and NIK would find blame :laugh:
KOBE SHOOTS A POOR PERCENTAGE WITH NICE POPCORN STATS IN A VICTORIOUS FINALS GAME, HACK SAYS "WOW KOBE SUX!!! THAT RAPIST IS A BALLHOGG!!!!"
LEBRON SHOOTS A POOR PERCENTAGE WITH NICE POPCORN STATS IN A LOST FINALS GAME, HACK SAYS "OMG, LEBRON MY KING!!!! MVP!!!!!!!!"
I CAN DO THE SAME BROKEN HEAD AKA STEP IT UP
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36-13-9 playing with a D leaguer in the lineup against a 67 win team with the leagues #1 defense
OMG LEBRON SUX HE CHOKES DAVID BLATT FOR MVP
smh - it's gonna be funny the next 2-3 finals when Lebron wins a few more rings. Cavs aren't going anywhere.
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36-13-9 playing with a D leaguer in the lineup against a 67 win team with the leagues #1 defense
OMG LEBRON SUX HE CHOKES DAVID BLATT FOR MVP
smh - it's gonna be funny the next 2-3 finals when Lebron wins a few more rings. Cavs aren't going anywhere.
I always thought that in Cleveland, LeBron will win one more ring. I think next year is his final opportunity, and after that it's all down hill for him. I am fully expecting a Cavs/Warriors finals, where I think Irving picks it up and wins the Finals MVP and LeBron declines some more. If you look in history, aside from the 50's Lakers, 60's Celitics and the 90's Bulls, when two teams play in a rematch back to back years, the losing team usually wins the rematch. In the 50's, the Celtics traded wins with the St. Louis Hawks, the 70's the Lakers traded wins with the Knicks and the Bullets traded wins with the Supersonics, 80's the Lakers traded wins with the Celtics, Pistons and 76ers, the 00's didn't have back to back Finals, but the 10's had the Heat and Spurs trade Final wins. Next year, my early prediction is the Cavs beat the Warriors on the strength of Kyrie Irving, LeBron gets his 3rd and final ring and everyone in Cleveland can finally be happy.
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obviously none of us know the landscape of the NBA over the next 5 years but the east should be pretty weak for another year or 2
one more ring is probable although i'd love for the Celtics to go after Lamarcus and put a stop to it (i can dream, right?)
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obviously none of us know the landscape of the NBA over the next 5 years but the east should be pretty weak for another year or 2
one more ring is probable although i'd love for the Celtics to go after Lamarcus and put a stop to it (i can dream, right?)
I think 2 years is far. In Chicago, Rose is doing better but the rest of the Bulls are declining, the Heat have Bosh the rest is okay, the Hawks should be good again but shouldn't win in the playoffs, I see the Wizard not doing as good as they did. Unless eastern teams sign a lot of talent, I think next year is the Cavs to lose.
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36-13-9 playing with a D leaguer in the lineup against a 67 win team with the leagues #1 defense
OMG LEBRON SUX HE CHOKES DAVID BLATT FOR MVP
smh - it's gonna be funny the next 2-3 finals when Lebron wins a few more rings. Cavs aren't going anywhere.
so we just guna ignore that he froze out all his teammates and focused on his stats, electing to pad them, forgetting that 34 shots per game on horrible iffeciency can only impress groupies?
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If Warriors had LeBron and Cavs had Iggy, 4-0 sweep by a 40 point margin.
Iggy & Curry bro lmao.
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if lebron had golden state's supporting cast, he'd make them all look like a buncha scrubs.
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if lebron had golden state's supporting cast, he'd make them all look like a buncha scrubs.
:grumpy: now NIK is just saying stupid shit for attention.
meanwhile old man Kobe is having a going away tour next year Jeter style - no playoffs included ;D
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it's true....draymond green would still be known as a 14th player off the bench if he played with lebron. with steph curry, cats are talking about max contract. even kevin love went from looking like a perennial superstar to a role player wit the quickness. chris bosh style.
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even kevin love went from looking like a perennial superstar to a role player wit the quickness. chris bosh style.
Son is in like 15 other threads calling Chris Bosh a franchise player that would go in the first 11 picks if the NBA fantasy drafted the league.
Would of been the same with Love if he stayed healthy & won this year.
Contradictions kill arguments.
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Lebron just got to 5,000 playoff points
He's got 1.500+ rebounds and 1,188 assists in the playoffs
nobody in NBA history can match these #'s and he's only 30
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nobody in NBA history can match these #'s and he's only 30
Only two years older than MJ before he won his first ring & LeBron already has two lmao.
But na....there's "What's LeBron's legacy?" threads going lmaooooo.
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nobody in NBA history can match these #'s and he's only 30
Only two years older than MJ before he won his first ring & LeBron already has two lmao.
But na....there's "What's LeBron's legacy?" threads going lmaooooo.
yep. not even worth entertaining that discussion - funny how Duncan isn't a "true champ" for winning back to backs yet Lebron ins't a true champ either. the inconsistency...
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the inconsistency...
His stories have been that way since I signed up lol.
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even kevin love went from looking like a perennial superstar to a role player wit the quickness. chris bosh style.
Son is in like 15 other threads calling Chris Bosh a franchise player that would go in the first 11 picks if the NBA fantasy drafted the league.
Would of been the same with Love if he stayed healthy & won this year.
Contradictions kill arguments.
THATS WHAT IM SAYING..JUST LIKE KEVIN LOVE, CHRIS BOSH WAS RELEGATED TO ROLE PLAYER STATUS PLAYIN NEXT TO LEBRON. IN REALITY, HE'S A 20-10 GUY WHO CAN LEAD A PLAYOFF TEAM, AS HE DID BEFORE AND AFTER LEBRON.
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even kevin love went from looking like a perennial superstar to a role player wit the quickness. chris bosh style.
Son is in like 15 other threads calling Chris Bosh a franchise player that would go in the first 11 picks if the NBA fantasy drafted the league.
Would of been the same with Love if he stayed healthy & won this year.
Contradictions kill arguments.
THATS WHAT IM SAYING..JUST LIKE KEVIN LOVE, CHRIS BOSH WAS RELEGATED TO ROLE PLAYER STATUS PLAYIN NEXT TO LEBRON. IN REALITY, HE'S A 20-10 GUY WHO CAN LEAD A PLAYOFF TEAM, AS HE DID BEFORE AND AFTER LEBRON.
It's only normal that a player can't fill the same role as a third option that he had on a gutter trash team.
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even kevin love went from looking like a perennial superstar to a role player wit the quickness. chris bosh style.
Son is in like 15 other threads calling Chris Bosh a franchise player that would go in the first 11 picks if the NBA fantasy drafted the league.
Would of been the same with Love if he stayed healthy & won this year.
Contradictions kill arguments.
THATS WHAT IM SAYING..JUST LIKE KEVIN LOVE, CHRIS BOSH WAS RELEGATED TO ROLE PLAYER STATUS PLAYIN NEXT TO LEBRON. IN REALITY, HE'S A 20-10 GUY WHO CAN LEAD A PLAYOFF TEAM, AS HE DID BEFORE AND AFTER LEBRON.
It's only normal that a player can't fill the same role as a third option that he had on a gutter trash team.
tell that to pau gasol
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Lol.. 2nd option = Pau Gasol.
Put prime D-Wade on that roster and Gasol is just as dead as Bosh was.
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Lol.. 2nd option = Pau Gasol.
Put prime D-Wade on that roster and Gasol is just as dead as Bosh was.
pau and wade with kobe or pau and wade with lebron? because pau and wade with kobe would be BEAST....with lebron, they'd look like borderline starters at best.
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the inconsistency...
His stories have been that way since I signed up lol.
true. never even gave the 08 Celtics props after they won.
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the inconsistency...
His stories have been that way since I signed up lol.
true. never even gave the 08 Celtics props after they won.
They couldn't beat the '08 Lakers if we had Bynum.
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the inconsistency...
His stories have been that way since I signed up lol.
true. never even gave the 08 Celtics props after they won.
They couldn't beat the '08 Lakers if we had Bynum.
lmao! bynum is going to make a difference in that 40 point beat down game 6?
this is the same Bynum NIK has been shitting on for a good year now after dick riding him forever
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the inconsistency...
His stories have been that way since I signed up lol.
true. never even gave the 08 Celtics props after they won.
They couldn't beat the '08 Lakers if we had Bynum.
lmao! bynum is going to make a difference in that 40 point beat down game 6?
this is the same Bynum NIK has been shitting on for a good year now after dick riding him forever
bynum was a developing player coming off of injuries from 08-10...he finally got it together and became a star in 11-12, and that still wasnt his ceiling....he fell off the face of the earth as soon as he started reachin the surface of his potential.
remember game 4 of bos-lal 08? lakers were up by 18 at the half and ended up losing that game in an epic collapse......then lakers went on to win game 5. so without that collapse, lakers up in the series 3-2 with 2 chances to close it out. mdogg got a point, if bynum was there, that comeback never goes down and lakers win the series.
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Boston is a shitty ass team, man...we played so fucking terrible and still managed to win. We can do this!
;D
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even kevin love went from looking like a perennial superstar to a role player wit the quickness. chris bosh style.
Son is in like 15 other threads calling Chris Bosh a franchise player that would go in the first 11 picks if the NBA fantasy drafted the league.
Would of been the same with Love if he stayed healthy & won this year.
Contradictions kill arguments.
THATS WHAT IM SAYING..JUST LIKE KEVIN LOVE, CHRIS BOSH WAS RELEGATED TO ROLE PLAYER STATUS PLAYIN NEXT TO LEBRON. IN REALITY, HE'S A 20-10 GUY WHO CAN LEAD A PLAYOFF TEAM, AS HE DID BEFORE AND AFTER LEBRON.
It's only normal that a player can't fill the same role as a third option that he had on a gutter trash team.
Yeah, like Pacer fans were nutting over Evan Turner.
Some niggas just ain't the niggas you thought they was.
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LOL COMPARING EVAN TURNER TO A PLAYER WHO LED HIS TEAM TO THE PLAYOFFS AS THE 1ST OPTION
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LOL COMPARING EVAN TURNER TO A PLAYER WHO LED HIS TEAM TO THE PLAYOFFS AS THE 1ST OPTION
It wasn't comparing the players, just the theory. The Pacers thought they were getting a steal & a half. Turns out he wasn't anything as advertised, just flourished by himself.
But you keep telling yourself Toronto was some big, deep playoff team in the East (which apparently now, you flip flopped again making it seem like it was an accomplishment to make the Eastern playoffs) with mighty Chris Bosh at the helm.
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THE POINT IS THAT BOSH IS A STAR WHO WAS MADE TO LOOK LIKE WEAKSAUCE.....EVAN TURNER WAS ALWAYS WEAKSAUCE WHO JUST PUT UP EMPTY STATS (KINDA LIKE A POOR-MANS LEBRON LMAO)
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THE POINT IS THAT BOSH IS A STAR WHO WAS MADE TO LOOK LIKE WEAKSAUCE.....EVAN TURNER WAS ALWAYS WEAKSAUCE WHO JUST PUT UP EMPTY STATS (KINDA LIKE A POOR-MANS LEBRON LMAO)
No, the point is Chris Bosh isn't a top 20 player in the league, but by himself he can look like one.
Evan Turner isn't a top 50 player in the league, but by himself he can look like one.
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THE POINT IS THAT BOSH IS A STAR WHO WAS MADE TO LOOK LIKE WEAKSAUCE.....EVAN TURNER WAS ALWAYS WEAKSAUCE WHO JUST PUT UP EMPTY STATS (KINDA LIKE A POOR-MANS LEBRON LMAO)
No, the point is Chris Bosh isn't a top 20 player in the league, but by himself he can look like one.
Evan Turner isn't a top 50 player in the league, but by himself he can look like one.
LETS SAY BOSH IS SOMEWHERE IN THE 20-30 RANGE.....WITH LEBRON, HE LOOKS LIKE HE IN THE 100-150 RANGE. THAT'S THE POINT.
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lakers will win this series mark my words
;D
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THE POINT IS THAT BOSH IS A STAR WHO WAS MADE TO LOOK LIKE WEAKSAUCE.....EVAN TURNER WAS ALWAYS WEAKSAUCE WHO JUST PUT UP EMPTY STATS (KINDA LIKE A POOR-MANS LEBRON LMAO)
No, the point is Chris Bosh isn't a top 20 player in the league, but by himself he can look like one.
Evan Turner isn't a top 50 player in the league, but by himself he can look like one.
LETS SAY BOSH IS SOMEWHERE IN THE 20-30 RANGE.....WITH LEBRON, HE LOOKS LIKE HE IN THE 100-150 RANGE. THAT'S THE POINT.
Bosh isn't as good as Lebron or even D-wade, that's why he was 3rd fiddle. Dude never did anything without Lebron in his career.
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THE POINT IS THAT BOSH IS A STAR WHO WAS MADE TO LOOK LIKE WEAKSAUCE.....EVAN TURNER WAS ALWAYS WEAKSAUCE WHO JUST PUT UP EMPTY STATS (KINDA LIKE A POOR-MANS LEBRON LMAO)
No, the point is Chris Bosh isn't a top 20 player in the league, but by himself he can look like one.
Evan Turner isn't a top 50 player in the league, but by himself he can look like one.
LETS SAY BOSH IS SOMEWHERE IN THE 20-30 RANGE.....WITH LEBRON, HE LOOKS LIKE HE IN THE 100-150 RANGE. THAT'S THE POINT.
Bosh isn't as good as Lebron or even D-wade, that's why he was 3rd fiddle.
excellent revelation
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I say Raptors or Knicks. Oh and ROCCY told me that he cant log on but these are his exact words.... "hey jamal post that i think that lebanon james is going to the 49ers"
LMAO Roccy with that heat
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Why is this thread even still relevant...
Or are y'all carrying on like neo Nazis n trying to revive a lost war?
Sorry for saying y'all...
Y'all...
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Why is this thread even still relevant...
Or are y'all carrying on like neo Nazis n trying to revive a lost war?
Sorry for saying y'all...
Y'all...
cleveland was just in the superbowl
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Why is this thread even still relevant...
Or are y'all carrying on like neo Nazis n trying to revive a lost war?
Sorry for saying y'all...
Y'all...
cleveland was just in the superbowl
I thought I was liar...
Bless it...
Just set my TV n home theatre up again...
Found hoop dreams....
Haven't watched it in five years....
Discuss...
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I'm listening to Action Bronson, word to Elano.
food for thought:
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He had a great game...Don't get ahead of yourself though. Dude still missed a grip of clutch shots and coulda closed it out in the 4th with free throws. Too early to call him clutch. I still think Detroit takes the next 2, like last year.
Kind of what i expected. Don't nitpick, incredible game. He hit the game-tying three, and the game winner.
What happens when he gets a consistent jumper/three, and a post-up game?
SMH - NIK criticized Lebron after his classic '07 game too! hahahahaha
25 points in a row for his bum ass team = "missed a grip of shots" :grumpy:
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http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2015/6/21/8821413/dwyane-wades-dad-is-wearing-a-cleveland-cavaliers-shirt
MJ face
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up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGoxIvuPtmo
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up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGoxIvuPtmo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1PesQ1yA6g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d-Mnfz6iB0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24uqgkmZnyc
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Kevin Love opted out today - he's probably going to resign with the Cavs though. I don't really want him in Boston as the #1 player...pr #2 even. dude's not a legit superstar although he can obviously ball.
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wonder why nobody is talking about kevin love opting out
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Kevin love resigns with Cavs for 5 years, 110 mil
As expected. He'll come back.
Tristan Thompson is back with Cavs at 5 years, 80 milli
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HEAVY payroll in 1-2 years. You will have 5 guys alone who make around 100 mil combined. Mozgov will see more money down the stretch as well.
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i can't see Mosgov staying with them long term
but the tristan thompson contract won't look bad at all when the new TV deals kick in
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"after Game 1 of the NBA finals...i never wanted to play in a game more than that 1"
choosing playing with Lebron over anywhere else
http://www.theplayerstribune.com/kevin-love-cavaliers-unfinished-business/
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Iman Shumpert staying with Cavs
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"after Game 1 of the NBA finals...i never wanted to play in a game more than that 1"
choosing playing with Lebron over anywhere else
http://www.theplayerstribune.com/kevin-love-cavaliers-unfinished-business/
Coulda used him.
All good, Kev. Next June.
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he'll be there in May
ECF game 7 loss to the Celtics 8)
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Cavs are looking at Joe Johnson
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Lebron resigned today