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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: Teddy Roosevelt on June 14, 2007, 12:16:59 PM
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Whose town is this, anyway?
It is a question I have heard a lot from friends whose allegiances to one local team or another are as personal as they are impassioned. And it's a question I've been mulling during this week's insane intersection of big and bigger L.A. sports news -- "All Kobe, All the Time" radio banging elbows with the first-place Dodgers, the first-place Angels and the Stanley Cup-questing Ducks.
Which entity ranks as "L.A.'s Team" during normal, more stable, the-sky-is-not-falling-on-the-Lakers conditions?
The landscape has changed considerably since the Rams and Raiders bolted for leaner pastures and an ex-Dodger catcher ambled down the freeway to turn the thing around in Anaheim. Here is one view on how the current roster of teams breaks down in terms of popularity, loyalty and interest among Los Angeles/Orange County fans:
TOP TEN
1. Dodgers. Still tops after all these years, precisely because of all those years. . . . The Dodgers beat the Lakers into Los Angeles by a couple of seasons, at a time when baseball was still king, enabling them to get a foothold they have yet to relinquish. Passion for the Dodgers has been simmering longer, dating back to the days of Walt Alston (he didn't appear overly passionate, but the people who supported his team were) and Coliseum "Moon Shots." . . . Replay the tape: Scully, Koufax, Lasorda, Fernando, Hershiser, Gibson, Piazza. Tough to find bigger L.A. icons than those.
2. Lakers. With a bullet, thanks to the gun Kobe has tried to hold to the Lakers' heads. . . . The fever took a while to crest, first breaking out during the Showtime years, then subsiding during the Randy Pfund/Elden Campbell years, then rebounding with a fury with the 2000-2002 Three-Peat. . . . Kobe Versus Shaq '04 pushed it into the stratosphere, where it has remained despite only four playoff victories since.
3. USC football. Given up for yesteryear's news during the 1990s, the Trojans have pulled off the comeback of our generation. . . . Against significant odds, USC football is bigger today than it was under Howard Jones and John McKay and John Robinson. Post-Palmer/Leinart/Bush, it now seems hard to believe that USC went more than two decades between Heisman Trophies and national titles.
4. UCLA basketball. Given up for yesteryear's news during the Steve Lavin regime, the Bruins are back to giving the people what they want with back-to-back Final Four appearances. Well, almost. . . . Stylistically, Ben Howland does it a little differently than John Wooden did. If Wooden's Pyramid of Success were the real deal, Howland's players would have been the ones cutting and transporting the stones.
5. UCLA football. The Bruins' Little Brother Football Complex in a nutshell: UCLA's greatest quarterback of the last half-century was named Troy.
6. Angels. Now making up for lost time -- the '60s, the '70s, most of the '80s, all of the '90s -- with their remarkable success since the hiring of former Dodger Mike Scioscia. The Dodgers still have the bigger fan base, but the Angels play better baseball.
7. Clippers. Have they peaked here? Probably, although the Kobe Saga has become an X factor. They'll always have May 2006 ("We Made the Second Round, Clip & Save"), but the encore was more of the same old same old.
8. USC basketball. This year's March Gladness has spawned new interest in Trojan hoops, but popularity potential has long been weighted down by the Weirdness Factor: The coach to make the biggest splash in the NCAA tournament used to play for UCLA; the Trojans went 24-2 in 1970-71 and didn't make the NCAAs, or even the NIT; the Bizarro Retro World that was the Sports Arena; Rick Majerus. . . . Prospects look promising with the arrival of O.J. Mayo. For one season, anyway.
9. Kings. Their fans are near-maniacal in their passion and loyalty. There just aren't that many of them. We pause for a moment of silence as the Ducks prepare for Game 3 of the Stanley Cup finals. Tough times, tough times.
10. Ducks. They're in the finals, they are two victories away from the trophy, but even in their own home 'burb they rank a distant second to the Angels.
SCUFFLING UNDERNEATH
11. Galaxy. Two league championships since 2002, which equal the combined output over that span of the Lakers (1), Angels (1), Dodgers, Clippers, Kings and Ducks. David Beckham will give the team a temporary ratings boost. Check back in October.
12. Chivas USA. It's going to take some time. Around here, people hear the nickname "Goats" and immediately think of Marty McSorley, Donnie Moore and Gary Payton.
13. USC/UCLA smaller-revenue producers. Valuable contributors in the quest for the Lexus Gauntlet. (For 10 bonus points: What is the Lexus Gauntlet?)
14. Sparks. For a refreshing change of pace, the Sparks offer a healthy alternative where Laker greats decide to return (e.g. Michael Cooper) rather than threaten to bolt for the next outbound plane.
http://www.latimes.com/sports/basketball/nba/lakers/la-spw-dayinla31jun01,1,4838512.story?coll=la-headlines-sports-nba-lakers&ctrack=1&cset=true
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LOL@Dodgers being bigger than the Lakers nowadays...
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LA fans just jump on the nuts of which ever team is winning IE snoop making songs for the mighty ducks when they were in the finals of that one sport that i thought was still on strike
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LA fans just jump on the nuts of which ever team is winning IE snoop making songs for the mighty ducks when they were in the finals of that one sport that i thought was still on strike
Homie, everybody has fake fans. You of all people should know that. Cus all those GS "fans" disappeared hella quick.
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LA fans just jump on the nuts of which ever team is winning IE snoop making songs for the mighty ducks when they were in the finals of that one sport that i thought was still on strike
I hate a lot of "Laker fans" out here...But trust that our franchises have their share of loyalists. 8)
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actually golden st season tickets are all sold out on the 1st level. only upperdeck remains
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^^Because they finally made the playoffs, meaning those are bandwaggon fans. LOL.
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Sorry to shift subjects here, but...where the FUCK did those annoying Golden State fans go? I haven't heard shiet about the Warriors being the best team, B.Davis being the real MVP, Matt Barnes being most improved, etc since Utah took care of them.
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^^Because they finally made the playoffs, meaning those are bandwaggon fans. LOL.
that was last season. haven't even checked for the upcomming season
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Sorry to shift subjects here, but...where the FUCK did those annoying Golden State fans go? I haven't heard shiet about the Warriors being the best team, B.Davis being the real MVP, Matt Barnes being most improved, etc since Utah took care of them.
wtf u talking about every charger game is a fuckin away game regardless of its in daygo or not.
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It's Phoenix's town 8)
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Sorry to shift subjects here, but...where the FUCK did those annoying Golden State fans go? I haven't heard shiet about the Warriors being the best team, B.Davis being the real MVP, Matt Barnes being most improved, etc since Utah took care of them.
wtf u talking about every charger game is a fuckin away game regardless of its in daygo or not.
Have you ever actually been to a Charger game?
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Sorry to shift subjects here, but...where the FUCK did those annoying Golden State fans go? I haven't heard shiet about the Warriors being the best team, B.Davis being the real MVP, Matt Barnes being most improved, etc since Utah took care of them.
wtf u talking about every charger game is a fuckin away game regardless of its in daygo or not.
Have you ever actually been to a Charger game?
yea been 2 a couple charger raider games. also been to denver NY for a jets game and operation desert storm when i went to a raider cardinal game
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Sorry to shift subjects here, but...where the FUCK did those annoying Golden State fans go? I haven't heard shiet about the Warriors being the best team, B.Davis being the real MVP, Matt Barnes being most improved, etc since Utah took care of them.
wtf u talking about every charger game is a fuckin away game regardless of its in daygo or not.
Have you ever actually been to a Charger game?
yea been 2 a couple charger raider games. also been to denver NY for a jets game and operation desert storm when i went to a raider cardinal game
I ment a Charger home game. But still over the past 3 years it has always been a Chager fan dominated stadium at Qualcomm.
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yes in san diego. im a 8 year raider season ticket holder and i try to travel to at least one away game per season. sometimes it happens sometimes it don't
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^^Because they finally made the playoffs, meaning those are bandwaggon fans. LOL.
that was last season. haven't even checked for the upcomming season
You can thank the Don Nelson signing for that one.
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Sorry to shift subjects here, but...where the FUCK did those annoying Golden State fans go? I haven't heard shiet about the Warriors being the best team, B.Davis being the real MVP, Matt Barnes being most improved, etc since Utah took care of them.
wtf u talking about every charger game is a fuckin away game regardless of its in daygo or not.
Lol I don't know what that has to do with this conversation, but since you started it...
Sep 11 @ OAK
Chargers: 27
Raiders: 0
Welcome home Chargers :nahnah2:
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^^ that was a sad day in oakland.
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LOL@Dodgers being bigger than the Lakers nowadays...
i dunno..if you just go by apparel alone there is a sea of Dodger blue wherever you go...i will say its close though either way
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Sorry to shift subjects here, but...where the FUCK did those annoying Golden State fans go? I haven't heard shiet about the Warriors being the best team, B.Davis being the real MVP, Matt Barnes being most improved, etc since Utah took care of them.
Jat and Sanford still rep...but it seems there was wayyyy more
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LA is definately a dodgers first town.
those LA fiitted hats outsell all laker jerseies combined.
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^^LMAO@using that as a reason. A good portion of the people who buy those hats don't even know it's Dodger related. Lakers are obviously way ahead in popularity when it comes to LA nowadays. Don't believe me, turn on the radio...PeACe
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LMAO at thinking the Dodgers are as popular in LA as the Lakers are, hahahaha
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LMAO at thinking the Dodgers are as popular in LA as the Lakers are, hahahaha
lol,where do you live agian?
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Sorry to shift subjects here, but...where the FUCK did those annoying Golden State fans go? I haven't heard shiet about the Warriors being the best team, B.Davis being the real MVP, Matt Barnes being most improved, etc since Utah took care of them.
Jat and Sanford still rep...but it seems there was wayyyy more
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yep. as soon as the free agency starts shifting shit around, you know me and jat gonna lay our oppinions on the Warriors and thier future. i just havnt said anything because there are no topics related to the Warriors and i dont think there is a big enough commontion about them to start one... but we are here. 8)
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LOL@Dodgers being bigger than the Lakers nowadays...
Dodgers are bigger because everybody in L.A. has been to Dodger Stadium at least once
to go to a shitty regular season Laker game you have to be some rich asshole
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LOL@Dodgers being bigger than the Lakers nowadays...
Dodgers are bigger because everybody in L.A. has been to Dodger Stadium at least once
to go to a shitty regular season Laker game you have to be some rich asshole
Are you kidding me? I know more people who have been to Laker games than Dodger games. Pick up an LA Times when both the Lakers and Dodgers are playing. Lakers will get the front page every single time. Listen to ANY Sports Radio show based in LA. The number one subject is ALWAYS Lakers, WAY ahead of Dodgers, even in the fucking Laker offseason, bro....
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Dodgers are more important to L.A. :nahnah2:
barely edging out the Lakers, settle down
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It's a hard call...I mean, I am black and grew up in "Black L.A." so it seems like it's a lot more Laker fans....but there are thousands of Mexicans with Dodger LA logos on their cars, and they stay wearin Dodger gear...and I know the whites still seem to love the Dodgers, even though a lot of them are Angels fans. But I mean damn, I used to live right by the forum, so I just grew up seeing a lot more Laker fans you know?
And call me a fool....but I'd put the Raiders as #4, even though they haven't been here for 12 years, and sucked the last few years LOL. There are still MAAAAANY Raiders fans, and at the Chargers home games against them, before they got good, it would usually be more Raider fans at the games LOL, because of everybody from L.A. drivin down there...so that says a whole lot to me.
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^It's not even up for debate, you see more Laker fans because this is way more of a Laker town, not because of where you live...This is the first time I've ever heard someone claim LA a Dodger town...I'm sure it belonged to the Dodgers when baseball was bigger, and they've been here longer, so that's their main claim...but nowadays, who can deny that Lakers are 1000 times bigger in LA?
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Sorry to shift subjects here, but...where the FUCK did those annoying Golden State fans go? I haven't heard shiet about the Warriors being the best team, B.Davis being the real MVP, Matt Barnes being most improved, etc since Utah took care of them.
Jat and Sanford still rep...but it seems there was wayyyy more
8)
yep. as soon as the free agency starts shifting shit around, you know me and jat gonna lay our oppinions on the Warriors and thier future. i just havnt said anything because there are no topics related to the Warriors and i dont think there is a big enough commontion about them to start one... but we are here. 8)
plenty of time left until b-ball season starts up im sure the W's will make a move or 2.
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^It's not even up for debate, you see more Laker fans because this is way more of a Laker town, not because of where you live...This is the first time I've ever heard someone claim LA a Dodger town...I'm sure it belonged to the Dodgers when baseball was bigger, and they've been here longer, so that's their main claim...but nowadays, who can deny that Lakers are 1000 times bigger in LA?
Dog the Dodger sell out a hell of a lot, they're among the top three in most sell out in the MLB every year. They just set a record for most sell outs. So do the math they sell out almost every game and play twice as many games as the Lakers. And they haven't won shit in a while. And you're saying it's not even up for debate. You're trippin.
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^It's not even up for debate, you see more Laker fans because this is way more of a Laker town, not because of where you live...This is the first time I've ever heard someone claim LA a Dodger town...I'm sure it belonged to the Dodgers when baseball was bigger, and they've been here longer, so that's their main claim...but nowadays, who can deny that Lakers are 1000 times bigger in LA?
Dog the Dodger sell out a hell of a lot, they're among the top three in most sell out in the MLB every year. They just set a record for most sell outs. So do the math they sell out almost every game and play twice as many games as the Lakers. And they haven't won shit in a while. And you're saying it's not even up for debate. You're trippin.
LOL! Lakers sell out EVERY SINGLE HOME GAME ANNDDDD EVERY SINGLE ROAD GAME....And basketball tickets are wayyyy more expensive than baseball tickets... Don't you ever listen to sports radio? Watch sport programs? Read the sports section of LA Times?...Lakers are _CLEARLY_ much bigger than the Dodgers in this city...PeACe
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^It's not even up for debate, you see more Laker fans because this is way more of a Laker town, not because of where you live...This is the first time I've ever heard someone claim LA a Dodger town...I'm sure it belonged to the Dodgers when baseball was bigger, and they've been here longer, so that's their main claim...but nowadays, who can deny that Lakers are 1000 times bigger in LA?
Dog the Dodger sell out a hell of a lot, they're among the top three in most sell out in the MLB every year. They just set a record for most sell outs. So do the math they sell out almost every game and play twice as many games as the Lakers. And they haven't won shit in a while. And you're saying it's not even up for debate. You're trippin.
LOL! Lakers sell out EVERY SINGLE HOME GAME ANNDDDD EVERY SINGLE ROAD GAME....And basketball tickets are wayyyy more expensive than baseball tickets... Don't you ever listen to sports radio? Watch sport programs? Read the sports section of LA Times?...Lakers are _CLEARLY_ much bigger than the Dodgers in this city...PeACe
Doesn't matter if they sell out road games cus the question is "who runs L.A?". Like I said, out of 81 home games the Dodgers sell out almost every one. That's without winning shit for the past 20 years. The Lakers tickets cost more cus they have less games and Staples Center holds less people than Dodger stadium. And you as well as anyone should know that there's a bunch of rich people that don't even watch basketball there. They just go cus of the Hollywood like atmosphere.
Oh and you shouldn't believe everything the media says.
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I always thought it was pretty even. Since the Lakers were the latest team to have big success, it also doesn't hurt to have a legend playing in his prime either that's why they might get more coverage now. It's most likely close to even though, it will definitely get crazy if the Dodgers go to the World Series. Remember the Angels in 2002? Well, picture that but 10x bigger.
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^It's not even up for debate, you see more Laker fans because this is way more of a Laker town, not because of where you live...This is the first time I've ever heard someone claim LA a Dodger town...I'm sure it belonged to the Dodgers when baseball was bigger, and they've been here longer, so that's their main claim...but nowadays, who can deny that Lakers are 1000 times bigger in LA?
Dog the Dodger sell out a hell of a lot, they're among the top three in most sell out in the MLB every year. They just set a record for most sell outs. So do the math they sell out almost every game and play twice as many games as the Lakers. And they haven't won shit in a while. And you're saying it's not even up for debate. You're trippin.
LOL! Lakers sell out EVERY SINGLE HOME GAME ANNDDDD EVERY SINGLE ROAD GAME....And basketball tickets are wayyyy more expensive than baseball tickets... Don't you ever listen to sports radio? Watch sport programs? Read the sports section of LA Times?...Lakers are _CLEARLY_ much bigger than the Dodgers in this city...PeACe
Doesn't matter if they sell out road games cus the question is "who runs L.A?". Like I said, out of 81 home games the Dodgers sell out almost every one. That's without winning shit for the past 20 years. The Lakers tickets cost more cus they have less games and Staples Center holds less people than Dodger stadium. And you as well as anyone should know that there's a bunch of rich people that don't even watch basketball there. They just go cus of the Hollywood like atmosphere.
Oh and you shouldn't believe everything the media says.
Dodgers sell out ALMOST every game. Lakers sell out EVERY game and get WAYYYYY more local coverage + basketball is a bigger sport in LA today (if you deny this, you're out of your mind)...You do the math.
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^^far less seats in a b-ball stadium that baseball
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dodgers own LA, and the surrounding areas of LA....i'm sorry NIK but that is reality
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dodgers own LA, and the surrounding areas of LA....i'm sorry NIK but that is reality
LOL. I KNEW you were gunna come in here and say that... ::)
The Dodger fans come in here to try and claim it's equal (though it's unquestionably not)...Then Jake enters to say how it's a Dodger town. :laugh: How does that not surprise me?
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dodgers> Lakers
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I can only speak for the IE, but the Lakers have always been bigger. Baseball was always split, but I rearly if ever saw a Clippers jersey well I saw ton of Shaq jerseys and now tons of white Kobes. It was always more Lakers than anyone else, as the Lakers were always unchallenged in basketball (I see more Clippers jerseys in MINNESOTA THAN CALIFORNIA) and the Dodgers have been fighting off the Angels, especially since 2002. I have never seen a Laker's game in person, mainly because the price, but that doesn't mean anything. I've seen tons of Dodger games, usually to see Barry Bonds, and I've seen tons of Angel games, to actually see the Angels, I saw the Raiders and Rams when they are in town, to root for the home teams but more so the Raiders, and I've even seen Clippers in person... which was for free and had PLENTY of open sets. Of seeing everyone to see in LA in person, including UCLA and USC... I never saw the Lakers and still say the Lakers run LA. The Staples Center is like a Laker temple, and there is no team in the suburbs challenging them in there sport, and the Lakers have won more titles for LA than anyother franchise.
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dodgers> Lakers
Please take that Laker logo out your sig, bro...
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I can only speak for the IE, but the Lakers have always been bigger. Baseball was always split, but I rearly if ever saw a Clippers jersey well I saw ton of Shaq jerseys and now tons of white Kobes. It was always more Lakers than anyone else, as the Lakers were always unchallenged in basketball (I see more Clippers jerseys in MINNESOTA THAN CALIFORNIA) and the Dodgers have been fighting off the Angels, especially since 2002. I have never seen a Laker's game in person, mainly because the price, but that doesn't mean anything. I've seen tons of Dodger games, usually to see Barry Bonds, and I've seen tons of Angel games, to actually see the Angels, I saw the Raiders and Rams when they are in town, to root for the home teams but more so the Raiders, and I've even seen Clippers in person... which was for free and had PLENTY of open sets. Of seeing everyone to see in LA in person, including UCLA and USC... I never saw the Lakers and still say the Lakers run LA. The Staples Center is like a Laker temple, and there is no team in the suburbs challenging them in there sport, and the Lakers have won more titles for LA than anyother franchise.
This isn't really up for debate...Only major Laker haters or HUGE Dodger fans will try to make it seem close.
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dodgers> Lakers
Please take that Laker logo out your sig, bro...
why because i disagree with your opinion. i was talking about dodger>Lakers when it comes to running LA. total history lakers=dodgers
but i do mean this as far as total history
Dallas Cowboys > Lakers
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LMAO...You just HATE the Lakers, don't you? Admit it.
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how do i hate the lakers? please elaborate on that
cowboys>>Lakers
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Can you tell me how many Superbowls the Cowboys have really quick, so that I can laugh?
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Jacob don't waste your time fighting with him. I happen to believe Dodgers own LA too, i would go to a dodger game all day everyday over a Laker game nowadays. Nik is just being a bitch because once Kobe gets traded he'll have to ride Kobe's new team's dick.
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Can you tell me how many Superbowls the Cowboys have really quick, so that I can laugh?
tied for the most in the leagues history, still that does not illistrate how i'm a hater.
the san antonio spurs have more championships than the boston red sox and i'd still say
red sox>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>spurs ::)
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It's not about "belief", moron, it's a proven fact that the Lakers currently run LA, coverage wise, endorsement wise, they renovate more money, AND they get more local support from radio stations, local channels, etc...Keep arguing facts though...PeACe
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Jacob don't waste your time fighting with him. I happen to believe Dodgers own LA too, i would go to a dodger game all day everyday over a Laker game nowadays. Nik is just being a bitch because once Kobe gets traded he'll have to ride Kobe's new team's dick.
most definately a dodger game is more fun, less expensive, and more people are actually there to watch the team play as apposed to being there for the aristocratic atmosphere
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It's not about "belief", moron, it's a proven fact that the Lakers currently run LA, coverage wise, endorsement wise, they renovate more money, AND they get more local support from radio stations, local channels, etc...Keep arguing facts though...PeACe
the dodgers bring in more fans and sell more merchandise inside los angeles county.
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It's not about "belief", moron, it's a proven fact that the Lakers currently run LA, coverage wise, endorsement wise, they renovate more money, AND they get more local support from radio stations, local channels, etc...Keep arguing facts though...PeACe
the dodgers bring in more fans and sell more merchandise inside los angeles county.
That is the biggest load of BS...Dodger caps may sell, because people who don't watch baseball buy those, but when you compare jersey sales, it's not even close...Go to any random LA school and see if more people play baseball or basketball. If more like the Lakers or Dodgers...I GUARANTEE the numbers are at least 3:1 in favor of basketball/Lakers...PeACe
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Jacob don't waste your time fighting with him. I happen to believe Dodgers own LA too, i would go to a dodger game all day everyday over a Laker game nowadays. Nik is just being a bitch because once Kobe gets traded he'll have to ride Kobe's new team's dick.
most definately a dodger game is more fun, less expensive, and more people are actually there to watch the team play as apposed to being there for the aristocratic atmosphere
LMAO@Dodger games being "more fun" than ANY basketball game. :-X
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nik those are jsut number that you're pulling out of your ass. actual sales figures show that the dodgers bring in more fans and merchandise revenue.
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nik those are jsut number that you're pulling out of your ass. actual sales figures show that the dodgers bring in more fans and merchandise revenue.
LOL!
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Jacob don't waste your time fighting with him. I happen to believe Dodgers own LA too, i would go to a dodger game all day everyday over a Laker game nowadays. Nik is just being a bitch because once Kobe gets traded he'll have to ride Kobe's new team's dick.
most definately a dodger game is more fun, less expensive, and more people are actually there to watch the team play as apposed to being there for the aristocratic atmosphere
very true the bar at staples is more popping than the seats
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Jacob don't waste your time fighting with him. I happen to believe Dodgers own LA too, i would go to a dodger game all day everyday over a Laker game nowadays. Nik is just being a bitch because once Kobe gets traded he'll have to ride Kobe's new team's dick.
most definately a dodger game is more fun, less expensive, and more people are actually there to watch the team play as apposed to being there for the aristocratic atmosphere
LMAO@Dodger games being "more fun" than ANY basketball game. :-X
lol they are IMO, i'd rather watch basketball over baseball on tv, but i'd rather listen to baseball over the radio than basketball and i'd rather attend a regular season summer baseball game than a regular season basketball game 52% of the time.
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nik those are jsut number that you're pulling out of your ass. actual sales figures show that the dodgers bring in more fans and merchandise revenue.
LOL!
again the dodgers bring in more fans and more merchandise revenue. ....the most recent time the lakers really eclipse that mark is when shaq was with the lakers winning championships 8)
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Jacob don't waste your time fighting with him. I happen to believe Dodgers own LA too, i would go to a dodger game all day everyday over a Laker game nowadays. Nik is just being a bitch because once Kobe gets traded he'll have to ride Kobe's new team's dick.
most definately a dodger game is more fun, less expensive, and more people are actually there to watch the team play as apposed to being there for the aristocratic atmosphere
very true the bar at staples is more popping than the seats
yeah , i won't lie there are SPOTS in staples where you can sit by real fans but it's pretty expensive to sit by jack.
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Are you insane? It's not the same tension/atmosphere...Baseball games are more for chilling and drinking with your homies...Everyone just gets drunk there, tryna catch balls and doing waves and what not, as opposed to basketball games, where everyones on the edge of their seats focusing on every possession. LOL@baseball being more exciting :-X...PeACe
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Jacob don't waste your time fighting with him. I happen to believe Dodgers own LA too, i would go to a dodger game all day everyday over a Laker game nowadays. Nik is just being a bitch because once Kobe gets traded he'll have to ride Kobe's new team's dick.
most definately a dodger game is more fun, less expensive, and more people are actually there to watch the team play as apposed to being there for the aristocratic atmosphere
very true the bar at staples is more popping than the seats
LOL! Staples is one of the illest arenas in the league.
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No arguement there
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nik those are jsut number that you're pulling out of your ass. actual sales figures show that the dodgers bring in more fans and merchandise revenue.
LOL!
again the dodgers bring in more fans and more merchandise revenue. ....the most recent time the lakers really eclipse that mark is when shaq was with the lakers winning championships 8)
Again, you are speaking bullshit.. You are insane if you think more Dodger merchandise sells nowadays. Go to a TEAM LA store. It is 90% Lakers and 5% Dodgers 5% everything else...PeACe
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Are you insane? It's not the same tension/atmosphere...Baseball games are more for chilling and drinking with your homies...Everyone just gets drunk there, tryna catch balls and doing waves and what not, as opposed to basketball games, where everyones on the edge of their seats focusing on every possession. LOL@baseball being more exciting :-X...PeACe
regualr season game at the stadium>>>>>regular season game at staples.......aprox 52.4564535% of the time
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Jacob don't waste your time fighting with him. I happen to believe Dodgers own LA too, i would go to a dodger game all day everyday over a Laker game nowadays. Nik is just being a bitch because once Kobe gets traded he'll have to ride Kobe's new team's dick.
most definately a dodger game is more fun, less expensive, and more people are actually there to watch the team play as apposed to being there for the aristocratic atmosphere
very true the bar at staples is more popping than the seats
LOL! Staples is one of the illest arenas in the league.
the arena is beautiful no one is debating that.
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Jacob don't waste your time fighting with him. I happen to believe Dodgers own LA too, i would go to a dodger game all day everyday over a Laker game nowadays. Nik is just being a bitch because once Kobe gets traded he'll have to ride Kobe's new team's dick.
most definately a dodger game is more fun, less expensive, and more people are actually there to watch the team play as apposed to being there for the aristocratic atmosphere
very true the bar at staples is more popping than the seats
LOL! Staples is one of the illest arenas in the league.
the arena is beautiful no one is debating that.
Not about how it looks, the atmosphere is amazing...Horry hitting that 3, and Kobe in Game 4 are some of the greatest moments in recent LA sports history, and easily outdo anything that popped off in Dodger stadium as of late...Just say it, Jake. "no argument there"...You know you want to. But you can't, cuz you hate the Lakers...PeACe
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Are you insane? It's not the same tension/atmosphere...Baseball games are more for chilling and drinking with your homies...Everyone just gets drunk there, tryna catch balls and doing waves and what not, as opposed to basketball games, where everyones on the edge of their seats focusing on every possession. LOL@baseball being more exciting :-X...PeACe
regualr season game at the stadium>>>>>regular season game at staples.......aprox 52.4564535% of the time
I've been to both, and you're wrong...
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nik those are jsut number that you're pulling out of your ass. actual sales figures show that the dodgers bring in more fans and merchandise revenue.
LOL!
again the dodgers bring in more fans and more merchandise revenue. ....the most recent time the lakers really eclipse that mark is when shaq was with the lakers winning championships 8)
Again, you are speaking bullshit.. You are insane if you think more Dodger merchandise sells nowadays. Go to a TEAM LA store. It is 90% Lakers and 5% Dodgers 5% everything else...PeACe
yeah the one in the staples center ,lol. and the merchandise store in dodger's stadium is like 90% dodgers ,lol
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Jacob don't waste your time fighting with him. I happen to believe Dodgers own LA too, i would go to a dodger game all day everyday over a Laker game nowadays. Nik is just being a bitch because once Kobe gets traded he'll have to ride Kobe's new team's dick.
most definately a dodger game is more fun, less expensive, and more people are actually there to watch the team play as apposed to being there for the aristocratic atmosphere
very true the bar at staples is more popping than the seats
LOL! Staples is one of the illest arenas in the league.
the arena is beautiful no one is debating that.
Not about how it looks, the atmosphere is amazing...Horry hitting that 3, and Kobe in Game 4 are some of the greatest moments in recent LA sports history, and easily outdo anything that popped off in Dodger stadium as of late...Just say it, Jake. "no argument there"...You know you want to. But you can't, cuz you hate the Lakers...PeACe
Do u remember Kirk Gibson taking Eck yard against my beloved A's that was at dodger stadium. Its one of the greatest walk off Hr's in baseball history
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nik those are jsut number that you're pulling out of your ass. actual sales figures show that the dodgers bring in more fans and merchandise revenue.
LOL!
again the dodgers bring in more fans and more merchandise revenue. ....the most recent time the lakers really eclipse that mark is when shaq was with the lakers winning championships 8)
Again, you are speaking bullshit.. You are insane if you think more Dodger merchandise sells nowadays. Go to a TEAM LA store. It is 90% Lakers and 5% Dodgers 5% everything else...PeACe
yeah the one in the staples center ,lol. and the merchandise store in dodger's stadium is like 90% dodgers ,lol
I'm talking about the one in Universal City Walk.
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Jacob don't waste your time fighting with him. I happen to believe Dodgers own LA too, i would go to a dodger game all day everyday over a Laker game nowadays. Nik is just being a bitch because once Kobe gets traded he'll have to ride Kobe's new team's dick.
most definately a dodger game is more fun, less expensive, and more people are actually there to watch the team play as apposed to being there for the aristocratic atmosphere
very true the bar at staples is more popping than the seats
LOL! Staples is one of the illest arenas in the league.
the arena is beautiful no one is debating that.
Not about how it looks, the atmosphere is amazing...Horry hitting that 3, and Kobe in Game 4 are some of the greatest moments in recent LA sports history, and easily outdo anything that popped off in Dodger stadium as of late...Just say it, Jake. "no argument there"...You know you want to. But you can't, cuz you hate the Lakers...PeACe
Do u remember Kirk Gibson taking Eck yard against my beloved A's that was at dodger stadium. Its one of the greatest walk off Hr's in baseball history
Compare crowd reactions, and you'll see what I mean.
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Jacob don't waste your time fighting with him. I happen to believe Dodgers own LA too, i would go to a dodger game all day everyday over a Laker game nowadays. Nik is just being a bitch because once Kobe gets traded he'll have to ride Kobe's new team's dick.
most definately a dodger game is more fun, less expensive, and more people are actually there to watch the team play as apposed to being there for the aristocratic atmosphere
very true the bar at staples is more popping than the seats
LOL! Staples is one of the illest arenas in the league.
the arena is beautiful no one is debating that.
Not about how it looks, the atmosphere is amazing...Horry hitting that 3, and Kobe in Game 4 are some of the greatest moments in recent LA sports history, and easily outdo anything that popped off in Dodger stadium as of late...Just say it, Jake. "no argument there"...You know you want to. But you can't, cuz you hate the Lakers...PeACe
those are amazing moments , but i doubt you could even name 10 amazing moments in baseball history, you're bias against baseball. so yeah no duh you're going to say that shit. but seriously there's been like 10 amazing moments in the last year and a half that have happened in dodgers stadium....all i got to say is back to back to back, and COME back and dodgers fans know what i'm talking about. lol again you have FAILED to elaborate why i'm a lakers' hater. lol
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Are you insane? It's not the same tension/atmosphere...Baseball games are more for chilling and drinking with your homies...Everyone just gets drunk there, tryna catch balls and doing waves and what not, as opposed to basketball games, where everyones on the edge of their seats focusing on every possession. LOL@baseball being more exciting :-X...PeACe
regualr season game at the stadium>>>>>regular season game at staples.......aprox 52.4564535% of the time
I've been to both, and you're wrong...
i'm never wrong
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Jacob don't waste your time fighting with him. I happen to believe Dodgers own LA too, i would go to a dodger game all day everyday over a Laker game nowadays. Nik is just being a bitch because once Kobe gets traded he'll have to ride Kobe's new team's dick.
most definately a dodger game is more fun, less expensive, and more people are actually there to watch the team play as apposed to being there for the aristocratic atmosphere
very true the bar at staples is more popping than the seats
LOL! Staples is one of the illest arenas in the league.
the arena is beautiful no one is debating that.
Not about how it looks, the atmosphere is amazing...Horry hitting that 3, and Kobe in Game 4 are some of the greatest moments in recent LA sports history, and easily outdo anything that popped off in Dodger stadium as of late...Just say it, Jake. "no argument there"...You know you want to. But you can't, cuz you hate the Lakers...PeACe
Do u remember Kirk Gibson taking Eck yard against my beloved A's that was at dodger stadium. Its one of the greatest walk off Hr's in baseball history
Compare crowd reactions, and you'll see what I mean.
56,000 fans cheering for Nomar>>>>>>>>18 and half thousand cheering for kobe
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nik those are jsut number that you're pulling out of your ass. actual sales figures show that the dodgers bring in more fans and merchandise revenue.
LOL!
again the dodgers bring in more fans and more merchandise revenue. ....the most recent time the lakers really eclipse that mark is when shaq was with the lakers winning championships 8)
Again, you are speaking bullshit.. You are insane if you think more Dodger merchandise sells nowadays. Go to a TEAM LA store. It is 90% Lakers and 5% Dodgers 5% everything else...PeACe
yeah the one in the staples center ,lol. and the merchandise store in dodger's stadium is like 90% dodgers ,lol
yeah depending on what season it is. lol. when the raiders were in town that store was 95% black and silver during the fall.
I'm talking about the one in Universal City Walk.
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^^Shows how much you know...There's a seperate store for the Raiders. Even right now there is more Laker merchandise in there.
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Jacob don't waste your time fighting with him. I happen to believe Dodgers own LA too, i would go to a dodger game all day everyday over a Laker game nowadays. Nik is just being a bitch because once Kobe gets traded he'll have to ride Kobe's new team's dick.
most definately a dodger game is more fun, less expensive, and more people are actually there to watch the team play as apposed to being there for the aristocratic atmosphere
very true the bar at staples is more popping than the seats
LOL! Staples is one of the illest arenas in the league.
the arena is beautiful no one is debating that.
Not about how it looks, the atmosphere is amazing...Horry hitting that 3, and Kobe in Game 4 are some of the greatest moments in recent LA sports history, and easily outdo anything that popped off in Dodger stadium as of late...Just say it, Jake. "no argument there"...You know you want to. But you can't, cuz you hate the Lakers...PeACe
Do u remember Kirk Gibson taking Eck yard against my beloved A's that was at dodger stadium. Its one of the greatest walk off Hr's in baseball history
Compare crowd reactions, and you'll see what I mean.
56,000 fans cheering for Nomar>>>>>>>>18 and half thousand cheering for kobe
Sad part is that the 20,000 actually gets louder than the 56,000.. :-X
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Are you insane? It's not the same tension/atmosphere...Baseball games are more for chilling and drinking with your homies...Everyone just gets drunk there, tryna catch balls and doing waves and what not, as opposed to basketball games, where everyones on the edge of their seats focusing on every possession. LOL@baseball being more exciting :-X...PeACe
regualr season game at the stadium>>>>>regular season game at staples.......aprox 52.4564535% of the time
I've been to both, and you're wrong...
i'm never wrong
What an ironic statement.
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^^Shows how much you know...There's a seperate store for the Raiders. Even right now there is more Laker merchandise in there.
in 93'? lol okay
anyways like i said it all depends on what season it is , right now i'm sure there's more laker gear, but in a few months don't be suprised if you start seeing more angles and dodgers stuff....and if i'm wrong the fact still remains
the dodgers bring in more fans and more merchandise revenue. team LA isn't the only retailer for sports merchandise you know right?
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Jake...You're obviously speaking purely offa' guesses. Lakers clearly make more money than Dodgers in todays day and age...PeACe
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you're working off of guesses then as well. like i said, and this is true for all knowledgeable businesses. you put out what is seasonal. when basketball in season you put out more lakers stuff (it can be assumed you only attend staples center when the lakers play) when baseball is in full swing dodgers apparel will run the gauntlet. period point blank, dodgers make more merchandising revenue than the lakers, mostly through hats, penants, and and that LA logo. it's in sports management text books even. you're just making an estimate off of one store that you go to when basketball season is in session.
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Jacob don't waste your time fighting with him. I happen to believe Dodgers own LA too, i would go to a dodger game all day everyday over a Laker game nowadays. Nik is just being a bitch because once Kobe gets traded he'll have to ride Kobe's new team's dick.
most definately a dodger game is more fun, less expensive, and more people are actually there to watch the team play as apposed to being there for the aristocratic atmosphere
very true the bar at staples is more popping than the seats
LOL! Staples is one of the illest arenas in the league.
the arena is beautiful no one is debating that.
Not about how it looks, the atmosphere is amazing...Horry hitting that 3, and Kobe in Game 4 are some of the greatest moments in recent LA sports history, and easily outdo anything that popped off in Dodger stadium as of late...Just say it, Jake. "no argument there"...You know you want to. But you can't, cuz you hate the Lakers...PeACe
those are amazing moments , but i doubt you could even name 10 amazing moments in baseball history, you're bias against baseball. so yeah no duh you're going to say that shit. but seriously there's been like 10 amazing moments in the last year and a half that have happened in dodgers stadium....all i got to say is back to back to back, and COME back and dodgers fans know what i'm talking about. lol again you have FAILED to elaborate why i'm a lakers' hater. lol
I remember that, one of the best games I've ever seen. That was just last year too.
Like I said before, NIK you're trippin' if you think it's not even close. You're obviously being biased on this one.
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^^^Jake is using the LA logo as reasoning for why the Dodgers are as popular as the Lakers LOL.. But ANYONE knows, go into TEAM LA Universal, even when the Dodgers are peaking during the Laker off-season, and there will STILL be Laker gear outnumbering Dodger gear AT LEAST 2:1, and usually much more...
RIK, do you truly believe the Dodgers are as popular as the Lakers out here? I wanna hear your honest opinion.
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Yes, I'm going by what I see, and I see the same amount of people wearing Dodger Jerseys/Shirts as Lakers jerseys/shirts.
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I'm calling you out, Rik. When it's time to ride with one set, who you down with: The Lakers or Dodgers?
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This isn't really up for debate...Only major Laker haters or HUGE Dodger fans will try to make it seem close.
haha nothin is up for debate with you!
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I'm calling you out, Rik. When it's time to ride with one set, who you down with: The Lakers or Dodgers?
There's no fuckin' way that I can choose. I'll ride with both until the sun burns out.
On another note, someone fucked with your karma. :o
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Yes, I'm going by what I see, and I see the same amount of people wearing Dodger Jerseys/Shirts as Lakers jerseys/shirts.
DAMN. You must live in a Mexican ass neighborhood...LOL.
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This isn't really up for debate...Only major Laker haters or HUGE Dodger fans will try to make it seem close.
haha nothin is up for debate with you!
Wrong...FACTS aren't up for debate.
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Yes, I'm going by what I see, and I see the same amount of people wearing Dodger Jerseys/Shirts as Lakers jerseys/shirts.
DAMN. You must live in a Mexican ass neighborhood...LOL.
It's a good mixture of Blacks and Mexicans.
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Yes, I'm going by what I see, and I see the same amount of people wearing Dodger Jerseys/Shirts as Lakers jerseys/shirts.
DAMN. You must live in a Mexican ass neighborhood...LOL.
Rik's out in Hawthorne and he sees that, I'm out in West LA and I definitely see more Dodger hats/jerseys than Lakers
you're missing the point NIK, Dodgers have more power with the people
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I'm calling you out, Rik. When it's time to ride with one set, who you down with: The Lakers or Dodgers?
I can't choose. I'll ride with both until the sun burns out.
On another note, someone fucked with your karma. :o
NIK might accuse you of not being a real Laker fan now. :-X
Lol. Fuck karma.
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Yes, I'm going by what I see, and I see the same amount of people wearing Dodger Jerseys/Shirts as Lakers jerseys/shirts.
DAMN. You must live in a Mexican ass neighborhood...LOL.
It's a good mixture of Blacks and Mexicans.
LOL. And blacks are obviously down with the Lakers over Dodgers (in general)...The only people I ever see sporting Dodger jerseys (which I rarely see to begin with) are Hispanics...Hispanics LOVE baseball, and you being Hispanic and around Hispanics most likely has an influence on your opinion (not to sound racist or anything)...Do you think more kids try out for the basketball team or baseball team nowadays? This isn't an opinion, it's a fact...Lakers are way bigger out here nowadays, in terms of popularity, merchandise, radio time, television time, fans, edorsements, ETC.
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I'm calling you out, Rik. When it's time to ride with one set, who you down with: The Lakers or Dodgers?
I can't choose. I'll ride with both until the sun burns out.
On another note, someone fucked with your karma. :o
NIK might accuse you of not being a real Laker fan now. :-X
Lol. Fuck karma.
Don't be gay. That wasn't funny.
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Yes, I'm going by what I see, and I see the same amount of people wearing Dodger Jerseys/Shirts as Lakers jerseys/shirts.
DAMN. You must live in a Mexican ass neighborhood...LOL.
It's a good mixture of Blacks and Mexicans.
LOL. And blacks are obviously down with the Lakers over Dodgers (in general)...The only people I ever see sporting Dodger jerseys (which I rarely see to begin with) are Hispanics...Hispanics LOVE baseball, and you being Hispanic and around Hispanics most likely has an influence on your opinion (not to sound racist or anything)...Do you think more kids try out for the basketball team or baseball team nowadays? This isn't an opinion, it's a fact...Lakers are way bigger out here nowadays, in terms of popularity, merchandise, radio time, television time, fans, edorsements, ETC.
dude you sound like a fuckin LOSER
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I'm calling you out, Rik. When it's time to ride with one set, who you down with: The Lakers or Dodgers?
I can't choose. I'll ride with both until the sun burns out.
On another note, someone fucked with your karma. :o
NIK might accuse you of not being a real Laker fan now. :-X
Lol. Fuck karma.
Don't be gay. That wasn't funny.
It was a little funny. :'(
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Yes, I'm going by what I see, and I see the same amount of people wearing Dodger Jerseys/Shirts as Lakers jerseys/shirts.
DAMN. You must live in a Mexican ass neighborhood...LOL.
Rik's out in Hawthorne and he sees that, I'm out in West LA and I definitely see more Dodger hats/jerseys than Lakers
you're missing the point NIK, Dodgers have more power with the people
I went to a Dodger game and I felt like I was sitting at a bar...Most of the people weren't even paying attention. The popularity amongst the Lakers is much bigger than the popularity amongst the Dodgers in LA today. I dunno how someone can deny this when they turn on sports radio...PeACe
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Yes, I'm going by what I see, and I see the same amount of people wearing Dodger Jerseys/Shirts as Lakers jerseys/shirts.
DAMN. You must live in a Mexican ass neighborhood...LOL.
It's a good mixture of Blacks and Mexicans.
LOL. And blacks are obviously down with the Lakers over Dodgers (in general)...The only people I ever see sporting Dodger jerseys (which I rarely see to begin with) are Hispanics...Hispanics LOVE baseball, and you being Hispanic and around Hispanics most likely has an influence on your opinion (not to sound racist or anything)...Do you think more kids try out for the basketball team or baseball team nowadays? This isn't an opinion, it's a fact...Lakers are way bigger out here nowadays, in terms of popularity, merchandise, radio time, television time, fans, edorsements, ETC.
dude you sound like a fuckin LOSER
Yet everything I'm saying is right. :-*
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let's do a quick recap here
NIK is doing this:
-making assumptions based on ONE store
-making assumptions from light hearted observations
-making assumptions from one game at dodger stadium
-making very GENERAL assumptions
Jacob id sdoing this:
-reporting from upper level university text books
-reporting from the wall street journal
-reporting from forbes
-reporting cold hard facts
Facts>>>>>assumptions
again the dodgers draw in more fans and sell more merchandise than the lakers do. the hispanic market is very strong.
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let's do a quick recap here
NIK is doing this:
-making assumptions based on ONE store
-making assumptions from light hearted observations
-making assumptions from one game at dodger stadium
-making very GENERAL assumptions
Jacob id sdoing this:
-reporting from upper level university text books
-reporting from the wall street journal
-reporting from forbes
-reporting cold hard facts
Facts>>>>>assumptions
again the dodgers draw in more fans and sell more merchandise than the lakers do. the hispanic market is very strong.
^^LMAO. Your discrediting process sucks ass..
Fact- More people take up basketball than baseball nowadays
Fact- Team LA is the biggest LA sports market store in the country
Fact- Team LA sells more Laker gear than Dodger gear YEARLY
Fact- Lakers get more local coverage
Fact- Lakers sell out more games (home AND road)
Fact- Lakers are more popular.
THATS ALL THERE IS TO IT. WHAT IS YOUR ARGUMENT? What makes the Dodgers as popular as the Lakers nowadays? Turn on the fuckin radio, son!
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lol @ getting all emotional about it
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^^No one's getting emotional, it's just ABSURD to claim the Dodgers are currently as big as the Lakers in LA after turning on the radio or tv...PeACe
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^^No one's getting emotional, it's just ABSURD to claim the Dodgers are currently as big as the Lakers in LA after turning on the radio or tv...PeACe
You shouldn't listen to everything the media says.
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^^No one's getting emotional, it's just ABSURD to claim the Dodgers are currently as big as the Lakers in LA after turning on the radio or tv...PeACe
You shouldn't listen to everything the media says.
LOL. We're going based off popularity...The Lakers are more popular in the media than the Dodgers...Even if it's not through the media, listen to sports radio, more callers will generally have something to say about the Lakers over the Dodgers, EVEN in the off-season. You can't truly think both teams are currently equal in popularity, can you? How much press would a Dodgers star demanding a trade be getting?
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let's do a quick recap here
NIK is doing this:
-making assumptions based on ONE store
-making assumptions from light hearted observations
-making assumptions from one game at dodger stadium
-making very GENERAL assumptions
Jacob id sdoing this:
-reporting from upper level university text books
-reporting from the wall street journal
-reporting from forbes
-reporting cold hard facts
Facts>>>>>assumptions
again the dodgers draw in more fans and sell more merchandise than the lakers do. the hispanic market is very strong.
^^LMAO. Your discrediting process sucks ass..
Fact- More people take up basketball than baseball nowadays
Fact- Team LA is the biggest LA sports market store in the country
Fact- Team LA sells more Laker gear than Dodger gear YEARLY
Fact- Lakers get more local coverage
Fact- Lakers sell out more games (home AND road)
Fact- Lakers are more popular.
THATS ALL THERE IS TO IT. WHAT IS YOUR ARGUMENT? What makes the Dodgers as popular as the Lakers nowadays? Turn on the fuckin radio, son!
Fact- The lakers arn't the reason why people take up basketball
Fact- Team LA is not the only retailer that sell dodger/laker merchandise
Fact- The dodgers sell more officially licensed gear than the lakers
Fact- The biggest media outlet in LA , the Los Angeles times put the dodgers @ #1 and the lakers @#2
Fact- dodger stadium holds 56,000 fans , Staples holds 18-19,000, dodger stadium draws in more fans than staples
Fact- Dodgers are more important to LA than the Lakers
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Fact- The lakers arn't the reason why people take up basketball
More people like basketball, hence more people liking the Lakers.
Fact- Team LA is not the only retailer that sell dodger/laker merchandise
It makes up for most of the official Laker and Dodger gear sold.
Fact- The dodgers sell more officially licensed gear than the lakers
Including those LA hats? I have a few of those LA hats myself...So do many people I know who HATE baseball. How does this translate into Dodgers being more popular? What do you think sells more, Kobe jerseys, or a Russell Martin jerseys? THINK about it
Fact- The biggest media outlet in LA , the Los Angeles times put the dodgers @ #1 and the lakers @#2
This is the view of the writer, not the LA Times... and he's not talking about now, he's talking about overall.
Fact- dodger stadium holds 56,000 fans , Staples holds 18-19,000, dodger stadium draws in more fans than staples
You can't compare baseball stadiums to indoor basketball arenas. Two different worlds. Fact of the matter is, Lakers ALWAYS sell out, and Dodgers don't. The price of admission to a Laker game is more than triple the price of admission to a Dodger game. Higher demand. COMMON SENSE. Lakers make more money than Dodgers.
Fact- Dodgers are more important to LA than the Lakers
Dumbest thing I've ever heard labeled as a fact.
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More people like basketball, hence more people liking the Lakers.
more YOUNGER people like basketball, but there's still too many older people out there and strags that are die hard in LA over baseball
Fact- Team LA is not the only retailer that sell dodger/laker merchandise
It makes up for most of the official Laker and Dodger gear sold.
not necessarily. if you're talking about mugs and novelty shirts yes. but overall general merchandise, it's only one store with a partial share of the market. that's a fact. dude
Fact- The dodgers sell more officially licensed gear than the lakers
Including those LA hats? I have a few of those LA hats myself...So do many people I know who HATE baseball. How does this translate into Dodgers being more popular? What do you think sells more, Kobe jerseys, or a Russell Martin jerseys? THINK about it
lol see the dodgers cross over, they sell wether you're a die hard fan or not, lakers merchandise is limited to laker die hard fans who are willing to shell out 78 for a new jersey, dodgers merchandise is more universal.....hence that's why they sell more merchandise.....remember that's what we're arguing over here, the dodgers bring in more fans and more merchandise revenue. that LA logo makes the dodgers bank sir.
Fact- The biggest media outlet in LA , the Los Angeles times put the dodgers @ #1 and the lakers @#2
This is the view of the writer, not the LA Times... and he's not talking about now, he's talking about overall.
so then you admit overall, the dodgers are more important historically to the city of los angeles
[quote author=Don Jacob link=topic=146333.msg1525776#msg1525776 date=1182472090]
Fact- dodger stadium holds 56,000 fans , Staples holds 18-19,000, dodger stadium draws in more fans than staples
You can't compare baseball stadiums to indoor basketball arenas. Two different worlds. Fact of the matter is, Lakers ALWAYS sell out, and Dodgers don't. The price of admission to a Laker game is more than triple the price of admission to a Dodger game. Higher demand. COMMON SENSE. Lakers make more money than Dodgers.[/quote]
the dodgers fill up 20,0000+ more easily. and the reason why seats are cheaper is because you have seating that is more far away from the action (which still sellls suprisingly) and it doesn't cost as much to maintain dodger stadium you don't need air conditioning and heating,ect. ect. and it's because of that outdoor atmosphere you dont' see alot of rich celebs like denzel, tiger woods, leo dicaprio, jack, ellen, ect. ect. there it's not a social hang out it's a mecca for dodger fans/baseball fans. do you get what i'm saying. when you buy a laker ticket you're buying entry not only into a basketball event but a night club as well.
Fact- Dodgers are more important to LA than the Lakers
Dumbest thing I've ever heard labeled as a fact.
well you even said historically they are , 8)
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Jake, it doesn't matter what you say...Lakers are a bigger name in LA AND universally...Lakers sell more merchandise and get more coverage. Lakers have higher demand for tickets and sell out more. There is nothing really to debate here, you can go around this all you want, but Lakers are hands-down locally more popular in this current day and age...
Wait a minute...I just remembered you're from Bakersfield. LMAO@your credibility in this argument. :-X
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Dodgers 51%
Lakers 49%
yea that's about right, Dodgers take it by a hair!
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^^At leats you're not a "Laker fan" from Bakersfield tryna claim this...Honestly though, I know you people deep down inside understand that the Lakers are much bigger out here. You have to be BRAINDEAD to turn on some sports radio and still think the Dodgers are more popular than the Lakers...PeACe
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^^At leats you're not a "Laker fan" from Bakersfield tryna claim this...Honestly though, I know you people deep down inside understand that the Lakers are much bigger out here. You have to be BRAINDEAD to turn on some sports radio and still think the Dodgers are more popular than the Lakers...PeACe
I don't live in L.A., but i will say that in other places the Lakers are much more visible, and always seem to have a huge star player or two, whereas the Dodgers don't really have any stars as of now.
But really, why does it matter? Why is everyone so emotional about it?
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^I'm not really emotional at all, just VERY SURPRISED that people actually believe the Dodgers are currently bigger than the Lakers..
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Jake, it doesn't matter what you say...Lakers are a bigger name in LA AND universally...
proof? and you already in a nut shell said historically the dodgers are bigger
Lakers sell more merchandise
again proof? my proof is in marketing text books , forbes, and wall street journal. dodgers sell more merchandise
Lakers have higher demand for tickets and sell out more.
how can you say this when the dodgers sell more tickets in 82 than the lakers do?
There is nothing really to debate here, you can go around this all you want, but Lakers are hands-down locally more popular in this current day and age...
like i said, you only know what the YOUTH like more, old people are alll about baseball in la, go to hispanic neighborhoods and they're just as die hard for the dodgers as the lakers, some even more so.
Wait a minute...I just remembered you're from Bakersfield. LMAO@your credibility in this argument. :-X
i'm sorry i live an hour and 23 minutes away from dodgers stadium, i'm still someone who was born in the heart of LA and have family who reside there ,lol
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^^At leats you're not a "Laker fan" from Bakersfield tryna claim this...Honestly though, I know you people deep down inside understand that the Lakers are much bigger out here. You have to be BRAINDEAD to turn on some sports radio and still think the Dodgers are more popular than the Lakers...PeACe
what does me living an hour and 23 minutes away from downtown LA have to do with anything? lol
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Sorry Jake...Regardless, your arguments hold no weight. LOL. Lakers are bigger than the Dodgers in terms of popularity out here, bottom line. I can tell you this from a 1st person perspective and from using common sense...Do me a favor though. Call in ANY sports radio show, and try to claim otherwise...I just wanna see how much they laugh at you. Don't forget to mention you're from Bakersfield.
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let me start off by saying im a bigger laker fan then I am a dodger fan. But the crowds at dodger stadium are shitting on any crowd at the staples center. There aint nothing like going to a live dodger game, the atmosphere the people and just being outdoors with 50,000+ plus dodger fans & la people. Dodgers play like 4 days in a row when there at home and always have 50,000 + fans there. Everyone is wearing white and blue, then you gotta take into consideation that los angeles is a perdominantly hispanic city and thats who is mostly at the games. Everyone there is wearing dodger gear, then on the streets I'd say 60% of young people own a dodger hat, out of all my homies I cant think of one that doesnt have a dodger hat, you see dodger hats, jackets, shirts everywhere. Of course a lot of em are wearing them for the fact that it says la on it but that should show that dodger merchandice sells more. Nobody wears them ugly ass laker hats and nobody wears laker gear unless there a fan. You dont see cats going around wearing purple & gold. Historically Los Angeles is a dodger city and it will always be. Dodgers have a loyal fanbase even when they are loosing and nobody knows who is playing for them. If kobe was gone and the lakers had 4-5 loosing seasons nobody would come to see them play. If the staples center could hold 50,000 people it would never fill up. I hate watching baseball on tv and would always watch a basketball game first but a game at dodger stadium > any laker game at staples.
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. Dodgers have a loyal fanbase even when they are loosing and nobody knows who is playing for them.
Imagine if the Dodgers actually had consistent winning teams, or a star that comes up like Kobe.
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. Dodgers have a loyal fanbase even when they are loosing and nobody knows who is playing for them.
Imagine if the Dodgers actually had consistent winning teams, or a star that comes up like Kobe.
Exactly why Lakers are more popular.
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let me start off by saying im a bigger laker fan then I am a dodger fan. But the crowds at dodger stadium are shitting on any crowd at the staples center. There aint nothing like going to a live dodger game, the atmosphere the people and just being outdoors with 50,000+ plus dodger fans & la people. Dodgers play like 4 days in a row when there at home and always have 50,000 + fans there. Everyone is wearing white and blue, then you gotta take into consideation that los angeles is a perdominantly hispanic city and thats who is mostly at the games. Everyone there is wearing dodger gear, then on the streets I'd say 60% of young people own a dodger hat, out of all my homies I cant think of one that doesnt have a dodger hat, you see dodger hats, jackets, shirts everywhere. Of course a lot of em are wearing them for the fact that it says la on it but that should show that dodger merchandice sells more. Nobody wears them ugly ass laker hats and nobody wears laker gear unless there a fan. You dont see cats going around wearing purple & gold. Historically Los Angeles is a dodger city and it will always be. Dodgers have a loyal fanbase even when they are loosing and nobody knows who is playing for them. If kobe was gone and the lakers had 4-5 loosing seasons nobody would come to see them play. If the staples center could hold 50,000 people it would never fill up. I hate watching baseball on tv and would always watch a basketball game first but a game at dodger stadium > any laker game at staples.
Based on personal preference, I enjoy going to a Laker game about a billion times more than a Dodger game. And it's not because I'm a Laker fan, it's just that basketball is a much faster pace sport and you can really get into the action, play for play. When I went to a Dodger game recently, it was like everyone was there to get drunk with their homies, and it seemed like people were more into doing waves and tossing beach balls around than actually watching the game...I mean, it's fun as hell, don't get me wrong, but it's a completely different experience. You don't tense up and cheer nearly as hard at Dodger games, especially in the NBA playoffs, where crowd tempo determines so much. You say Lakers would never fill 50,000 seats. Lakers would fill 500,000 seats if the prices of tickets were the same as Dodger tickets...I don't think Dodgers would be able to fill up half their seats if the tickets were as expensive as Laker tickets...And we're speaking on populrity here. The fact that people who don't give a fuck about Dodgers still buy LA hats doesn't mean Dodgers are more popular. Imagine if only Dodger fans wore those LA hats the same way only Laker fans sport Laker gear. You wouldn't even think of comparing them... As for your claim that people would lose interest in a losing Laker team. Try telling that to Sedale Threatt in '93 :D...PeACe
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Yes we all know where everybody stands on the issue, it's 5 pages of the god damn same shit.
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Yes we all know where everybody stands on the issue, it's 5 pages of the god damn same shit.
The thing is, this isn't really a matter of opinions, it's a matter of facts...
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I think I've read that about 4 times already...everybody is just going in circles.
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more people have admittedly agreed that the city of los Angeles is a dodger town.
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NIK=from L.A.
Don Jacob=from Bakersfield.
The end.
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more people have admittedly agreed that the city of los Angeles is a dodger town.
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One of these days you are going to have to pick, Rik. And I will be there to witness it.
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NIK=from L.A.
Don Jacob=from Bakersfield.
The end.
what does it matter,lol. i live a hop skip and a jump aaway, i was born in LA raised there for most of my childhood and have family up and down there, go there evey 3 weeks or so. what's your point. it's not like i'm from Africa,lol.
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One of these days you are going to have to pick, Rik. And I will be there to witness it.
Can't do it.
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NIK=from L.A.
Don Jacob=from Bakersfield.
The end.
what does it matter,lol. i live a hop skip and a jump aaway, i was born in LA raised there for most of my childhood and have family up and down there, go there evey 3 weeks or so. what's your point. it's not like i'm from Africa,lol.
My point is that someone from LA's opinion is obviously more credible on this matter. Do you wanna argue this too?
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more people have admittedly agreed that the city of los Angeles is a dodger town.
I guess that's why the Dodger thread is so flooded with replies. :D
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more people have admittedly agreed that the city of los Angeles is a dodger town.
I guess that's why the Dodger thread is so flooded with replies. :D
So now you determine who runs L.A. by what topic has the most post on dubcc?
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NIK=from L.A.
Don Jacob=from Bakersfield.
The end.
what does it matter,lol. i live a hop skip and a jump aaway, i was born in LA raised there for most of my childhood and have family up and down there, go there evey 3 weeks or so. what's your point. it's not like i'm from Africa,lol.
My point is that someone from LA's opinion is obviously more credible on this matter. Do you wanna argue this too?
you have no point because i'm from LA too,lol. i'm was born in santa monica raised in various areas of the south land until my parents moved to bako . lol i have cousins in south gate, east los, vernon, maywood, and downey. i have nephews in lynwood, upland, pamona, alta loma, and uncles and aunts in riverside, burbank, glendale, corona, lake elsinore, montclair, and ontario,lol.
so in actuality i have more power to comment on this issue than you because i have an insiders and an outsiders perspective of how important to los angeles inside and outside of the city
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more people have admittedly agreed that the city of los Angeles is a dodger town.
I guess that's why the Dodger thread is so flooded with replies. :D
So now you determine who runs L.A. by what topic has the most post on dubcc?
I thought you were talking about more people from this board...More people have actually agreed to LA is a Laker town.
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http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22LA+is+a+Laker+Town&btnG=Google+Search
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22LA+is+a+Dodger+Town&btnG=Search
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http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22LA+is+a+Dodgers+Town&btnG=Search
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22LA+is+a+Lakers+Town&btnG=Search
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i like how the first page says "LA is a laker town until kobe leaves" .lol
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i like how LA is a Laker town.
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Kobes gonna get traded soon anyways