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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Addicted To Cake on March 14, 2006, 03:53:07 AM
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everything coming outta there sounds dirty south these days. that shit is beyond pathetic. E-A Ski has become a lil jon copycat. E-40s new wack album is a dirty south album.
Bay Area had there own westcoast sound in the 90s. Now the Bay Area has to suck lil jons dick. wtf is this?
Too Short new album = all Lil Jon, Dirty South
E-40's new album = Dirty South
E A SKi new production = Lil Jon ripoff
Hyphy = Crunk
Why is the Bay Area so infatuated with Dirty South? that shit is pathetic. This is the CALIFORNIA not Atlanta. Bay Area needs to stop fucking dick riding the Dirty South and come up with there own fucking sound. E-40 said Hyphy is the bay version of Crunk. Just like Atlanta used Crunk to blow up, now the bay is trying to do the same with Hyphy.
even the bay area culture is dirty south. Dreads & Gold Teeth is Dirty South shit not westcoast. scrapers on dubs is dirty south shit.
Bay Area people are always braggin how everything started in the Bay which is totally bullshit. Its become evident that the bay is nothing but Bitters and is only tarnishing the westcoast.
i'm not a hater. I love the old bay but the bay has fallen the fuck off with all this bitting of the Dirty South they do.
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I definetly agree hypy=crunk.It doesnt really matter who started it first,fact is South had the commercial success with it 1st and bay area followed the trend. Theres no denying that hypy is heavily influenced by crunk music. Im happy that the westcoast sound finally progressed but perhaps it would have been better to change it in a different way.
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u got that right
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everything coming outta there sounds dirty south these days. that shit is beyond pathetic. E-A Ski has become a lil jon copycat. E-40s new wack album is a dirty south album.
Bay Area had there own westcoast sound in the 90s. Now the Bay Area has to suck lil jons dick. wtf is this?
Too Short new album = all Lil Jon, Dirty South
E-40's new album = Dirty South
E A SKi new production = Lil Jon ripoff
Hyphy = Crunk
Why is the Bay Area so infatuated with Dirty South? that shit is pathetic. This is the CALIFORNIA not Atlanta. Bay Area needs to stop fucking dick riding the Dirty South and come up with there own fucking sound. E-40 said Hyphy is the bay version of Crunk. Just like Atlanta used Crunk to blow up, now the bay is trying to do the same with Hyphy.
even the bay area culture is dirty south. Dreads & Gold Teeth is Dirty South shit not westcoast. scrapers on dubs is dirty south shit.
Bay Area people are always braggin how everything started in the Bay which is totally bullshit. Its become evident that the bay is nothing but Bitters and is only tarnishing the westcoast.
i'm not a hater. I love the old bay but the bay has fallen the fuck off with all this bitting of the Dirty South they do.
how does it exactly tarnish the westcoast? Hyphy is the only thing that's helping to put eyes on the westcoast/bay area
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this thread proves how stupid the thread starter is
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YUP .........I DONT LIKE E-40 .HE SOUNDS LIKE THE WACK SOUTH
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i'm not a hater. I love the old bay but the bay has fallen the fuck off with all this bitting of the Dirty South they do.
I agree with you..people may say "move on from the old bay sound..." etc but fact is and ill use your examples, E A SKI's old production was CLASSIC...and E-40 sounded GREAT over those old school beats....
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Addicted you remain the sites eldest idiot, stop living in the past and stop hating. we know the Bay is on your mind constantly becuase you always got a comment to make. U just mad cuz Games hype is rapidly dying down. Who you feeling from Cali, huh? clown
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your hella gay i'm about to hit rasuputins buy like 5 copies and then get me a 1/8 from C.C.A.C. and ride around listen to the albumb and blow my tree's in the traffic
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youre an idiot too^^
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im actually feelin 40s new album, but at the same time i listen to a decent amount of dirty south too.
so even though i disagree with the thread starter, he does bring up a good point:
why is the bay copying the south so much???
its not just the music, its the their whole style.
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and the dirty south was influenced by old bay music you fuckin square. hyphy is something more than crunk anyways and seriously you must be be dickridin hard since the bay is always on your mind and i know how much it just squeezes your balls to see the bay startin to get some recognition. haha and gold teeth has always been a bay thing since the early 90's jackass. how many times do you i have to say watch the video for black dynasty-"deep east oakland". its not so hard to just watch it on northern=ridaz.com grow the fuck up and move on
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and the dirty south was influenced by old bay music you fuckin square. hyphy is something more than crunk anyways and seriously you must be be dickridin hard since the bay is always on your mind and i know how much it just squeezes your balls to see the bay startin to get some recognition. haha and gold teeth has always been a bay thing since the early 90's jackass. how many times do you i have to say watch the video for black dynasty-"deep east oakland". its not so hard to just watch it on northern=ridaz.com grow the fuck up and move on
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Outside of Master P, what Southern artist has influence from the Bay in their music? That's a first. I've never heard that. If anything, a lot of Southern artists had an L.A. feel to them back in the day. Ask the Botany Boys if they were ever mistaken for L.A. artists. The G-Funk sound was big in the South in the 90s. But that's here nor there.
As for Crunk and Hyphy, well it's no question that Crunk was here LONG before Hyphy shit was. 3-6 Mafia was making their own style of Crunk music back in the 90s. No doubt about it, Hyphy is a Bay version of Crunk. But, that doesn't make it bad or anything. This Addicted To Beef cat just hates anything that doesn't fit his criteria: L.A. based with little to no white fans.
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am i lying? everything i said was true. I'm not here to hate. I just don't like what the Bay Area has become. They're are doing nothing but tarnishing the westcoast with there dirty south wackness.
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am i lying? everything i said was true. I'm not here to hate. I just don't like what the Bay Area has become. They're are doing nothing but tarnishing the westcoast with there dirty south wackness.
How so? Shit... Snoop went Down South and made one of the worst albums of his life, way before Hyphy started. Hyphy is doing good for the West, as it's the only new sound out here. L.A. is still in a transition period, our fans can't seem to let go of G-Funk. The Bay is open and tries new things, can't hate that. Where's my Block L.A. at? Nowhere. Why? Because we're not making enough noise.
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yea snoop went down south & he quickly came back, that was just 1 person tho. bay area isn't just 1 person. its a damn movement. bay area needs to come up with there own culture instead of living it thru the dirty south.
and that bitch ass line form 40s album "rep the bay we dont rep california" ... thats a slap in the face. California = Westcoast. everyone know so cal made the westcoast. Bay area refers to there own shit as the Bay, not westcoast so let them bitches do there own thing, just dont rep the west your fuckin wackness.
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Turfy says he's just playing on that very song, you aint listening right. Plus I think most of you are way to young to remeber videos like "Deep East Oakland" or to remember that Dru Down & Yuk had gold teeth in there mouth in 93. Shit, Biggie and Nas had golds too, its not copying the south. And all that old Atlanta, Texas and NO sounds were heavily inspired by the Bay, Lil Jon got his START working with Too $hort. Although I'm not here to say who started what, both regions have been inspired by each other. The "Hyphy Movement" is the best thing Cali has had going in YEARS. This is way more important than The Game ever was, and if youre sick of the Hyphy sound, listen to The Rock by San Quinn, Bay shit, not at all Hyphy
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I don't see how Atlanta, Texas or New Orleans(outside of early No Limit) are heavily influenced by the Bay. Lets see some back up on those statements. As for Lil Jon getting his start with Too Short, that can't be farther from the truth. He got his start at So So Deg with JD. Where do you get your facts?
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Outside of Master P, what Southern artist has influence from the Bay in their music? That's a first. I've never heard that.
Lil Jon, 8ball & MJG, Cash Money , Beats By Da Pound, etc, etc, etc
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youre an idiot too^^
lol
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yea snoop went down south & he quickly came back, that was just 1 person tho. bay area isn't just 1 person. its a damn movement. bay area needs to come up with there own culture instead of living it thru the dirty south.
and that bitch ass line form 40s album "rep the bay we dont rep california" ... thats a slap in the face. California = Westcoast. everyone know so cal made the westcoast. Bay area refers to there own shit as the Bay, not westcoast so let them bitches do there own thing, just dont rep the west your fuckin wackness.
the bay is the west, wut the fuck is LA?
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nobody in the industry cares about this, why should you?
The south and the bay seem like they've always had a special relationship because both have a strong independant scene. E-A-Ski did a lot of work with Suave House, around 96-97 a lot of Rap A Lot & Noo Trybe stuff had sort of a mobb style to it (to me at least). 40 & B-Legit did a lot of collabs in the south. The two regions have always got along and collabed.
let them get their money.
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and that bitch ass line form 40s album "rep the bay we dont rep california" ... thats a slap in the face. California = Westcoast. everyone know so cal made the westcoast.
LA always referred itself as the West Coast, that was a HUGE slap in the face for us when the West was on top in the 90's. Now it's our time to bust back to what the LA never included us in. And don't mention 2pac either because he was one of us. It's to the point now where LA rappers want to be on BAY remixes. Don't deny it, you just envy the success. And it's only beginning....
Lil Jon was an A&R for Jermaine Dupri, that's true. But who started fuckin wit him on Wax first? In the studio? Too Short! His whole 808 style of beats came from being around Short, he even made references to it in an interview once.
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most niggas from the bay are from the south anyways too but rep the bay hard.most of em still have family down there
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Lil Jon? Cash Money? Ball & G? lol! I don't see or hear any real Bay influence in their music. As for Short putting Jon on, he may have been one of the first major artists he worked with, but he had been doing shit prior to that. Inoj was his artist.
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Bro, the 808 sound started in the bay in 1983. I never said nothing about Cash Money, I give them props for their own movement and success that came from it. But the fact that Lil Jon recognizes Short as an influence on him should tell you something, and to this day he still throws out free beats to him.
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Someone else said Cash Money. But I'm sure Too Short was an influence but people are trying to make it seem as if the Bay is the reason for the South and that can't be farther from the truth.
And just to play devils avocate, Short is originally from L.A. So I guess if you claim Pac, we should claim Short.
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Bay Area had there own sound now they jacking that wack ass south shit just to get more popular
the result=end up sound like a cheap rip off the south..............which sucks to begin with
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How so? Short came to the bay in what? 12 years old? when he could finally come outta the house and get raised and find his character.... 2pac wanted LIVE & DIE in LA, but where did he come from and acknowledge as his true home? The bay, this is all documented.
But the bay is not THE reason for the South and vice versa, you can't compare regions like that, these cats are idiots saying bold statements like that. Lil Jon isn't a branch falling from the Too Short tree either, the whole point is the bay started this movement all on our own and it involves OUR culture.. I don't see no similarity to the South but the uptempo beats. The South is rural for the most part, it's a whole different environment.... our smallest communities are still Urban, the cultures are much different.
Bottomline, It's like comparing a black gangsta to a mexican cholo just because they wear the similar dickies n chucks. All muthafucaz see is the outside, they have no idea how these 2 come from VERY DIFFERENT cultures!
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and that bitch ass line form 40s album "rep the bay we dont rep california" ... thats a slap in the face. California = Westcoast. everyone know so cal made the westcoast.
LA always referred itself as the West Coast, that was a HUGE slap in the face for us when the West was on top in the 90's. Now it's our time to bust back to what the LA never included us in. And don't mention 2pac either because he was one of us. It's to the point now where LA rappers want to be on BAY remixes. Don't deny it, you just envy the success. And it's only beginning....
slap in the face? where is LA? on the westcoast, end of story.
Bay dudes always wanna hold onto pac. he never made a song called to live and die in the bay.and he only lived in the bay for 3 years. Quit trying to claim him as if he was born and bred in the bay. dude moved from Baltimore and stayed in the bay for 3 years before he moved out LA. he wasn't from LA either even tho he repped it hard more than he repped the bay.
Too Short was born and rasied in LA. he moved to Oakland when he was 16. he said it himself. he aint from the bay either.
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slap in the face? where is LA? on the westcoast, end of story.
Bay dudes always wanna hold onto pac. he never made a song called to live and die in the bay.and he only lived in the bay for 3 years. Quit trying to claim him as if he was born and bred in the bay. dude moved from Baltimore and stayed in the bay for 3 years before he moved out LA. he wasn't from LA either even tho he repped it hard more than he repped the bay.
Too Short was born and rasied in LA. he moved to Oakland when he was 16. he said it himself. he aint from the bay either.
You have no idea what being FROM somewhere means cuzz ure a square, simple and plain, end of story. No reason for me to get into it.
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WELL HOW I FEEL ................
AFTER HEARING THE NEW E-40 ........DAM THEY ARE TRYING TOOO HARD TO BE ON T.V .......THATS SHIT IS STR8T SOUTH .
WERE'S L.A AT ? WELL WE GOT GAME,OMAR CRUZ (SOON), THEY KEEP IT WEST COAST.TO ALL YALL HATING WHEN EVERYONE THINKS OF CALI WHAT COMES TO MIND
YUP L.A NOT THE GAY O MY BAD BAY AREA . NO MATTER WHAT L.A WILL ALWAYS HOLD IT DOWN .
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Lil John has been on 40 nuts for hella years. If u listen to the album all the beats Jon did had a that bay area steez to its not the same as the crunk beats. A lot more shit going on in the beat
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waaaaaaaaaaaaaah my region is better than yours waaaaaaaaaaaah.
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Rep The Bay We Don't Rep California!!!
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Rep The Bay We Don't Rep California!!!
WELL FUCK YOU ,WE DONT WANT A GAY AREA TO BE PART OF CALI..............LOL......JK.............
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Can't we all just get along? hahah Just listen to "California Love" and calmn down.
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Can't we all just get along? hahah Just listen to "California Love" and calmn down.
YOU SHOULD ALSO LISTEN TO "TO LIVE AND DIE IN L.A"
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Pac always has me yelling it out west coast and throwin up the dub
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YOU SHOULD ALSO LISTEN TO "TO LIVE AND DIE IN L.A"
Live and Die in LA, not FROM LA!
You ever met anyone who knew Pac? They'll tell you how Pac always claimed he's from the bay and got all his game and character from THE BAY! End of Story. Check out the Thug Angel DVD while ure at it.
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Lil Jon making Bay sounding beats is him being a good producer and catering to the artists and their fan base.
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people getting way too ass hurt over this
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I appreciate the fact that Bay Area rappers changed their style to shine again, you know the Bay was forgotten but now it's back.
But I don't like that sound, I live in Europe and I don't give a fuck about representin' the West Coast per se, I love it because it's the land of the Funk, so keep it fonky!
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why dont you people just listen to whatever you want and dont get butthurt about music you dont like.... just dont listen to it, it's that simple
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I know what Rod's sayin about being from somwhere vs. just being somewhere. You don't have to be from where you were born, you're from wherever you get your charachter from. Because it's usually your surroundings that make you who you are. You become a product of your city.
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this thread proves how stupid the thread starter is
lmao
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I have stayed out of this thread for the most part, because anything I say won't have much of an impact when people just want to use anything for an argument.
Personally...The new Bay sound is about as similar to the south's music as The "new west" or new L.A. sound is similar to NY's music. However, most L.A. music sounds straight out of the 90's west coast, OR straight from NY right now. It's not too much inbetween. For Hyphy, SOME songs do have strong South influence....however, how are you gonna mention those artists and producers who sound similar to the south, but NOT mention Rick Rock, who's not only the architect of Hyphy, but who has a completely different sound from the south? He barely uses the typical 808 sounds, and as far as the instrumentation he uses, it's the EXACT same as what he was doin a few years ago on "Automatic" "Change the game" "You can't deny it" "Gasoline" and everything else in the 2000's. Thing is, the drums and overall vibe he has been usin with these instruments is faster and gives it the energy that is hyphy. So yeah, some hyphy songs do sound straight from the south, but it's one thing that makes it different from CRUNK itself.....the tempo is a LOT different. For example....listenin to E-40's CD, the songs that would classify as CRUNK are:
I'm Da Man
Yee
Gimme Head
She say she loves me
However...songs that may be be called crunk, such as "U and dat" are only considered crunk because it's Lil Jon and the 808 sounds...but the tempo and vibe of that song is a LOT different from the bouncy, jump up and down, "whoop that trick" style of music.
So overall....the only major similarity between the Bay and the South is the 808 sound, some of the synthesizers, and the energy...but the tempo and dances alone make it a completely different sound.
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Lil Jon? Cash Money? Ball & G? lol! I don't see or hear any real Bay influence in their music.
Thats ok. It aint my fault people only see what they want to see. Hyphy is not crunk and didnt come from the south. Its uniquely Bay shit. Dont much care to argue with a brick wall though.
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And yall aint heard the new 40 if you think thats crunk music. Theres maybe 3-4 crunk songs on the whole thing.
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So overall....the only major similarity between the Bay and the South is the 808 sound
The 808 sound was used in the bay 1st! The only similarity is the energy. But the energy is still much different, we don't throw bows, we feel ourself and give it that gangsta urban swagger.
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So overall....the only major similarity between the Bay and the South is the 808 sound
The 808 sound was used in the bay 1st! The only similarity is the energy. But the energy is still much different, we don't throw bows, we feel ourself and give it that gangsta urban swagger.
Damn...I was DEFINITELY gonna put that on there but I was in the flow of what I was sayin and forgot to put it. But yeah, I know it was used there first...and even at that, I said "similarity", which is a lot different from sayin "the only thing the Bay BIT/stole/used from the south" you know. Yeah the energy is a whole lot different, but the fact that there is energy compared to the east and even L.A. is what I was sayin.
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Gotchu.... Similar but very different culture.
by the way, Have you asked around about how the sales are going down in LA?
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Gotchu.... Similar but very different culture.
by the way, Have you asked around about how the sales are going down in LA?
I haven't talked to anybody since yesterday....but oh yeah I forgot to mention, it's sellin VERY good in Tallahassee, Florida
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R-Tistic is right, the tempo for Hyphy is much faster than Crunk.
Compare the bpm of "Tell Me When To Go" to "Damn". Both produced by Lil Jon but two different sounds.
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R-Tistic is right, the tempo for Hyphy is much faster than Crunk.
Compare the bpm of "Tell Me When To Go" to "Damn". Both produced by Lil Jon but two different sounds.
do u think the average person hearing this album gives a shit about the Beats Per Minute for "tell me when to go??"
get real. Its all Lil Jon. even the tracks that aren't produced by lil jon don't sound anythign like westcoast. His next single with T-Pain is a Dirty South record not westcoast. e-40 is doing nothing for the west whatsoever.
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LA always referred itself as the West Coast, that was a HUGE slap in the face for us when the West was on top in the 90's. Now it's our time to bust back to what the LA never included us in. And don't mention 2pac either because he was one of us. It's to the point now where LA rappers want to be on BAY remixes. Don't deny it, you just envy the success. And it's only beginning....
dude ur so lame
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R-Tistic is right, the tempo for Hyphy is much faster than Crunk.
Compare the bpm of "Tell Me When To Go" to "Damn". Both produced by Lil Jon but two different sounds.
do u think the average person hearing this album gives a shit about the Beats Per Minute for "tell me when to go??"
get real. Its all Lil Jon. even the tracks that aren't produced by lil jon don't sound anythign like westcoast. His next single with T-Pain is a Dirty South record not westcoast. e-40 is doing nothing for the west whatsoever.
But nobody thinks Tell me when to go sounds anything like the average crunk song. Other than the four Lil Jon tracks I mentioned, the rest of it sounds nothin like crunk.
U kno what tho...I'm about done with this whole crunk vs hyphy arguin. Nobody will admit to havin a change in opinion about it anyway.
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LA always referred itself as the West Coast, that was a HUGE slap in the face for us when the West was on top in the 90's. Now it's our time to bust back to what the LA never included us in. And don't mention 2pac either because he was one of us. It's to the point now where LA rappers want to be on BAY remixes. Don't deny it, you just envy the success. And it's only beginning....
dude ur so lame
You didn't have to state the obvious.
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LA always referred itself as the West Coast, that was a HUGE slap in the face for us when the West was on top in the 90's. Now it's our time to bust back to what the LA never included us in. And don't mention 2pac either because he was one of us. It's to the point now where LA rappers want to be on BAY remixes. Don't deny it, you just envy the success. And it's only beginning....
dude ur so lame
You didn't have to state the obvious.
u guys are wack as fuck. dude is bein real, LA didnt include any bay rappers when they blew up, now its the bay's turn, and look wut happens, LA bitches crying..... fuck that shit, pac was the only nigga who knew wuts really hood in cali, and thats the bay!!!
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LA always referred itself as the West Coast, that was a HUGE slap in the face for us when the West was on top in the 90's. Now it's our time to bust back to what the LA never included us in. And don't mention 2pac either because he was one of us. It's to the point now where LA rappers want to be on BAY remixes. Don't deny it, you just envy the success. And it's only beginning....
dude ur so lame
You didn't have to state the obvious.
u guys are wack as fuck. dude is bein real, LA didnt include any bay rappers when they blew up, now its the bay's turn, and look wut happens, LA bitches crying..... fuck that shit, pac was the only nigga who knew wuts really hood in cali, and thats the bay!!!
How many LA rappers in the early 90's were on Bay area albums? Do you see anyone bitching about that?
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LA always referred itself as the West Coast, that was a HUGE slap in the face for us when the West was on top in the 90's. Now it's our time to bust back to what the LA never included us in. And don't mention 2pac either because he was one of us. It's to the point now where LA rappers want to be on BAY remixes. Don't deny it, you just envy the success. And it's only beginning....
dude ur so lame
You didn't have to state the obvious.
u guys are wack as fuck. dude is bein real, LA didnt include any bay rappers when they blew up, now its the bay's turn, and look wut happens, LA bitches crying..... fuck that shit, pac was the only nigga who knew wuts really hood in cali, and thats the bay!!!
Y'all act like the Bay wasn't poppin nationwide back then either...If you really wanna break down who was havin the most impact in the 90s, I'd really say 65% L.A., 35% Bay for the west. I don't see how L.A. "didn't include bay rappers", when most of the people in L.A. only associated with people in their own camps...you didn't even see a lot of cross collabs in the early and mid 90s like you see now...DPG worked with their own, Cube n Westside Connection worked with their own, Quik and his camp rolled with their own. The Bay had a lotta hits in the 90s, so it wasn't like L.A. got ALL the shine...the major reason we got more shine was because of the L.A. riots and Hollywood producin all the Hood movies that were all based in L.A. If it hadn't been for that, I don't think there would have been as much attention on L.A.
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R-Tistic is right, the tempo for Hyphy is much faster than Crunk.
Compare the bpm of "Tell Me When To Go" to "Damn". Both produced by Lil Jon but two different sounds.
do u think the average person hearing this album gives a shit about the Beats Per Minute for "tell me when to go??"
even the tracks that aren't produced by lil jon don't sound anythign like westcoast. His next single with T-Pain is a Dirty South record not westcoast. e-40 is doing nothing for the west whatsoever.
Your main problem is you got some narrowminded thinkin as far as what West Coast music should sound like. Where was all yall when Game's record came out? how bout the LA Dream Team, that shit didnt sound like some typical LA shit neither. Ever heard of the Alkaholiks or the Pharcyde? Do they sound like Cali music?
And it aint like 40 aint been doin a southern type here and there since Charlie Hustle came out. Hell, even go back and listen to "Carlos Rossi" and tell me that shit dont sound like Crunk's grandfather.
He aint doin nothin for the West? you must be from a "different" West.
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lol @ 2pac being a bay rapper........dude pac was raised in balitomore...all his "character" and street smarts came from living over there.....he moved over to oakland and worked with digital underground, then he started rappin and livin off that he moved to and basically started becoming an LA rapper, zilla i don't know how you're going to claim 2pac that's just crazy. to say pac was a bay area rapper by YOUR definition and for us LA cats NOT to be able to claim Short is just CRAZIER, born in LA raised in LA then moved out to oakland, he was ALWAYS an the LA cat that lived up in oakland. i ain't tryin' to argue over who's what and who's from where, cuz it's all irrelevant....west coast is WESTCOAST....or it WAS but it seems that ALOT of you bay area cats are tryin to start a rap civil war....in all honesty LA cats could give a FUCK less about what's LA and what's bay ,lol. so it's more of a one sided "beef" on you're guys' part
1. on the real......i agree with the poster....you might as well consider this "new bay" sound to be dirty south/crunk music that's all it is, biting in a real way
2. on the real FUCK e-40 for that like "i rep the bay not the west coast" that's some bullshit, that's like him saying " i rep hip hop not the black race" , it's a slap in the face
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2. on the real FUCK e-40 for that like "i rep the bay not the west coast" that's some bullshit, that's like him saying " i rep hip hop not the black race" , it's a slap in the face
40 didnt say that. it was Turf Talk and the adlib right after he said that was "IIIII"M LYYYYYYIIIIIIIIN!"
get your facts right
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listen to "Carlos Rossi" and tell feel that shit dont sound like Crunk's grandfather.
true
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R-Tistic is right, the tempo for Hyphy is much faster than Crunk.
Compare the bpm of "Tell Me When To Go" to "Damn". Both produced by Lil Jon but two different sounds.
do u think the average person hearing this album gives a shit about the Beats Per Minute for "tell me when to go??"
even the tracks that aren't produced by lil jon don't sound anythign like westcoast. His next single with T-Pain is a Dirty South record not westcoast. e-40 is doing nothing for the west whatsoever.
Your main problem is you got some narrowminded thinkin as far as what West Coast music should sound like. Where was all yall when Game's record came out? how bout the LA Dream Team, that shit didnt sound like some typical LA shit neither. Ever heard of the Alkaholiks or the Pharcyde? Do they sound like Cali music?
And it aint like 40 aint been doin a southern type here and there since Charlie Hustle came out. Hell, even go back and listen to "Carlos Rossi" and tell feel that shit dont sound like Crunk's grandfather.
He aint doin nothin for the West? you must be from a "different" West.
actually with groups like the liks, OLD BEPs, Saafir, raas kass,defari ect. they might NOT have been the cliche souind of west coast music but they MADE WESTCOAST music.....if snoop/dre/eazy/cube/quik were the sound of compton/south central/and long beach then groups like J5 and the ones mentioned above were those 'artsy' dudes you saw in venice beach, santa monica peer,and places that were outside of all these famous 'gangster' hoods....you could put your head phones on listening to some dialted peoples and imagine yourself walking down hollywood blvd and imagine dialted being that rap group free styling on the corner by that old book store. it might not have had that low rumbling bass ,with high pitched synth, and some chick singing soulful vocables, but it had that OTHER LA/west coast taste.
the new shit coming out of the bay ain't nothing but riding of the current trends down south....a shame cuz the bay had a good sound
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2. on the real FUCK e-40 for that like "i rep the bay not the west coast" that's some bullshit, that's like him saying " i rep hip hop not the black race" , it's a slap in the face
40 didnt say that. it was Turf Talk and the adlib right after he said that was "IIIII"M LYYYYYYIIIIIIIIN!"
get your facts right
either way it was implied.
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2. on the real FUCK e-40 for that like "i rep the bay not the west coast" that's some bullshit, that's like him saying " i rep hip hop not the black race" , it's a slap in the face
40 didnt say that. it was Turf Talk and the adlib right after he said that was "IIIII"M LYYYYYYIIIIIIIIN!"
get your facts right
either way it was implied.
Why would Turf Talk disrespect LA when he's from LA?
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2. on the real FUCK e-40 for that like "i rep the bay not the west coast" that's some bullshit, that's like him saying " i rep hip hop not the black race" , it's a slap in the face
40 didnt say that. it was Turf Talk and the adlib right after he said that was "IIIII"M LYYYYYYIIIIIIIIN!"
get your facts right
either way it was implied.
Why would Turf Talk disrespect LA when he's from LA?
...???? He's from LA?? I've NEVER heard that one. I know he was on the radio in LA last week, but they were talkin about the Bay and how the Bay was in the buildin and all that.
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2. on the real FUCK e-40 for that like "i rep the bay not the west coast" that's some bullshit, that's like him saying " i rep hip hop not the black race" , it's a slap in the face
40 didnt say that. it was Turf Talk and the adlib right after he said that was "IIIII"M LYYYYYYIIIIIIIIN!"
get your facts right
either way it was implied.
Why would Turf Talk disrespect LA when he's from LA?
...???? He's from LA?? I've NEVER heard that one. I know he was on the radio in LA last week, but they were talkin about the Bay and how the Bay was in the buildin and all that.
yea, he lived in LA until he was 15 or somethin like that, then he lived in vallejo after that. He was in a Murder Dog interview sayin he reps" L. Yay"