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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: kingwell on August 07, 2006, 08:57:17 PM
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Pretty good cd, some of his songs on this remind me of Eminem mixed with an east coast style and production. He is definitely getting better and better.
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fuck jin.
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fuck jin.
Hes dope
anyone see him lose to Serius Jones in the Fight Klub? he Got OWNED!
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fuck jin.
Hes dope
anyone see him lose to Serius Jones in the Fight Klub? he Got OWNED!
yes. ive seen that. serius jones ate jin.
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Jin is actually still alive?
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fuck jin.
Hes dope
anyone see him lose to Serius Jones in the Fight Klub? he Got OWNED!
yes. ive seen that. serius jones ate jin.
jin always says the same things over and over. he battle raps but may only throw a couple of shots at the othe guy.
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I thought this guy retired from rap... ???
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Hes dope
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fuck jin.
fuck jay-z
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What was up with the Jin diss on Jay anyway??
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What was up with the Jin diss on Jay anyway??
it wasn't a diss he just showed how easy it is to get attention with beef and titled the song fuck jay-z(in the famous words of Sucka Free)
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somebody told me that he makes his own cd's in his basement with other family members. where is he from anyway?
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somebody told me that he makes his own cd's in his basement with other family members. where is he from anyway?
he's from China
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somebody told me that he makes his own cd's in his basement with other family members. where is he from anyway?
he's from China
no wonder.
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somebody told me that he makes his own cd's in his basement with other family members. where is he from anyway?
he's from China
no wonder.
His parents are Chinese, but dude was born and raised in Miami.
And the retirement stuff - he didn't want to be involved on the level where it's 90% business and 10% show. He released his album with Ruff Ryders, then backed out of the game and started touring battle events. What records he has released (and will release?) are indie stuff.
That song "Top 5 dead or alive" (or something like that) was dope IMO. Had a video too (though it's obviously very budget.)
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Nah man he has really stepped his game up since Properganda and Rest Is History. This is a compilation mind you, but he's like a whole new artist to me, cuz I was NOT feeling his earlier stuff at all back then.
Download the single from the cd: http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=FEF1C1EA486C1667
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I think he quit makin records, now he just tries to make money battling the battle vs Jones was for 10 g's
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Nah man he has really stepped his game up since Properganda and Rest Is History. This is a compilation mind you, but he's like a whole new artist to me, cuz I was NOT feeling his earlier stuff at all back then.
Download the single from the cd: http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=FEF1C1EA486C1667
Thanks for track Kingwell, its decent, haha made me laugh about the mechanic part. Jin's good.
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I think he quit makin records, now he just tries to make money battling the battle vs Jones was for 10 g's
yeah but he had his revenge, one other emcee defeated serious jones and jin killed that other mc. Then he asked jones for a revenge for 50 000$ and he decline the offer
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How can people still diss jin as a battle rapper after winning so many times?
Sure the guy has losses, probably his bad days, no one has a perfect record.
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Nah man he has really stepped his game up since Properganda and Rest Is History. This is a compilation mind you, but he's like a whole new artist to me, cuz I was NOT feeling his earlier stuff at all back then.
Download the single from the cd: http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=FEF1C1EA486C1667
Thanks for track Kingwell, its decent, haha made me laugh about the mechanic part. Jin's good.
No problem! ;D
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How can people still diss jin as a battle rapper after winning so many times?
Sure the guy has losses, probably his bad days, no one has a perfect record.
I wasnt dissing, just stating facts, i think JIN is a great battle rapper with hella bars
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How can people still diss jin as a battle rapper after winning so many times?
Sure the guy has losses, probably his bad days, no one has a perfect record.
I wasnt dissing, just stating facts, i think JIN is a great battle rapper with hella bars
oh okies :) cool i just got it, funny in the song "100 Grand Jin" he addresses how people are commenting on his losses and forgetting his wins :)
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He don't got it in him to get major success anyways.. There's billions of people in China and he can't even go platinum over there. 8)
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He don't got it in him to get major success anyways.. There's billions of people in China and he can't even go platinum over there. 8)
That is just plain ignorant. So you think all the people of Africa should be to blame when a black rapper doesn't go platinum?
And I want to get back on topic here. I really think Jin is maturing more as an artist. His flow is better, his rhymes are telling stories, not just battle raps... The reason he is independent now is because the major label was making him into something he wasn't. Now we see what the real Jin is about. It would be cool to see him sign to a major again, only if he has alot of creative control though.
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It would be cool to see him sign to a major again, only if he has alot of creative control though.
yeah dood i wouldnt mind that.
his 'carpe diem' track was ridic and so was 'perspectives' off of properganda.
the fyi music vid was pretty funny too.
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He don't got it in him to get major success anyways.. There's billions of people in China and he can't even go platinum over there. 8)
That is just plain ignorant. So you think all the people of Africa should be to blame when a black rapper doesn't go platinum?
Wow.
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He don't got it in him to get major success anyways.. There's billions of people in China and he can't even go platinum over there. 8)
That is just plain ignorant. So you think all the people of Africa should be to blame when a black rapper doesn't go platinum?
And I want to get back on topic here. I really think Jin is maturing more as an artist. His flow is better, his rhymes are telling stories, not just battle raps... The reason he is independent now is because the major label was making him into something he wasn't. Now we see what the real Jin is about. It would be cool to see him sign to a major again, only if he has alot of creative control though.
I think he was quoting SERIUS jones homie, relax...Serius Jones said that when he batteld JIN
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serious jones was basically just concentrating on jin being from china with his disses in that battle, jin actually dismissed all of that when he said something like that situation ain't fair cause he couldn't really make jokes about cottin pickin (being surrounded by blacks only).
other than the racist shit jones almost only made up a bunch of physical threats n gangsta shit which really doesn't make nobody win a battle.
he had a few good non racial lines but really the fact that he won was based on the china dissing and jin being in the devensive cause of that without being able to strike back since it's hiphop plus the hall was filled with blacks only.
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^ It's hip hop kid, Serius won cuz he had hot punchlines and Jin didn't. Punchlines are key to freestyling. It ain't cuz the place was filled wit blacks. Come on now.
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serius killed him but serius basically talked his rhymes real slow compared to jin. also the crowd was often ohhing and ahhing at the setup lines. he had major crowd support which helped him look better.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFUAX-pEELc
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^ It's hip hop kid, Serius won cuz he had hot punchlines and Jin didn't. Punchlines are key to freestyling. It ain't cuz the place was filled wit blacks. Come on now.
read what I said, I never denied he had funny lines but it's an undeniable fact that most of it was all based on jin being from china and jin couldn't come back at that by clowning blacks cause everybody in that bitch was black.
also, in jin's words, "his rhymes don't work on a beat"
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i was wondering, in a battle, where do african americans stand in terms of the racism factor, if whites and asians can be attacked with racist battle raps...can it be used in return from whites and asians?
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i was wondering, in a battle, where do african americans stand in terms of the racism factor, if whites and asians can be attacked with racist battle raps...can it be used in return from whites and asians?
Anything goes in a battle, but whatever you say shows how much of a person you are.
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^ It's hip hop kid, Serius won cuz he had hot punchlines and Jin didn't. Punchlines are key to freestyling. It ain't cuz the place was filled wit blacks. Come on now.
Exactly!!!!
Get Jin and Jones on a track and Jones couldnt fucc with Jin. But in battles it doesnt matter that serius basically "talked" he clowned Jin way more, there were some Asian Jokes in there, but they were on point. And he said other shit that shut Jin down, Jin had a tight few punchlines, but it didnt seem to be directed at Jones, it was just like talking to anyone, where was Jones clowned JIN bad and thats that battling is about....
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^ It's hip hop kid, Serius won cuz he had hot punchlines and Jin didn't. Punchlines are key to freestyling. It ain't cuz the place was filled wit blacks. Come on now.
Exactly!!!!
Get Jin and Jones on a track and Jones couldnt fucc with Jin. But in battles it doesnt matter that serius basically "talked" he clowned Jin way more, there were some Asian Jokes in there, but they were on point. And he said other shit that shut Jin down, Jin had a tight few punchlines, but it didnt seem to be directed at Jones, it was just like talking to anyone, where was Jones clowned JIN bad and thats that battling is about....
80% of the stuff you consider "directed at jin" was really directed to any chinese rapper. That way people were thinkin (as you are) his shit was alot more on point cause jin had more general shit, but as a matter of fact both didn't know too much about each other and therefore couldn't come up with enough personal stuff to go 3 rounds, only jones took the china dissing as a "personal" whereas jin couldn't do the same (dissing blacks).
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Didn't Jones mention shit about his Ruff Ryders deal, sort of a cheap shot, but nice.
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Neither of them new each other well but Jin being Asian set Jones off to be more personal wit the shit. Jones dissed Jin about his race and Jin dissed Jones about his appearance as well but it just wasn't his race. All them people in that room are there to see one thing and that's a battle. You gotta come back wit some shots on his appearance, wat he's rockin, how he's dressed etc. You don't have to know them personally becuz if they do, shit could sound pre written but its better imo if dudes don't know each other becuz shit would just go back and forth. Jones attacked his culture becuz he know he'd get alotta laughs and he was a minority in that room, yes, but it's not like Jin couldn't diss him bout his race he just didn't have the balls which I guess is understandable. When it all comes down to it though Jones simply won cuz he had the punches whether they were personal OR general.
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Neither of them new each other well but Jin being Asian set Jones off to be more personal wit the shit. Jones dissed Jin about his race and Jin dissed Jones about his appearance as well but it just wasn't his race. All them people in that room are there to see one thing and that's a battle. You gotta come back wit some shots on his appearance, wat he's rockin, how he's dressed etc. You don't have to know them personally becuz if they do, shit could sound pre written but its better imo if dudes don't know each other becuz shit would just go back and forth. Jones attacked his culture becuz he know he'd get alotta laughs and he was a minority in that room, yes, but it's not like Jin couldn't diss him bout his race he just didn't have the balls which I guess is understandable. When it all comes down to it though Jones simply won cuz he had the punches whether they were personal OR general.
the fact that it takes balls to do it alone should tell you that he couldn't have won dissing blacks, they the ones who decide who wins.
take away the racial part and the battle woulda been completely different. the outcome of a battle shouldn't depend on the race.
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Neither of them new each other well but Jin being Asian set Jones off to be more personal wit the shit. Jones dissed Jin about his race and Jin dissed Jones about his appearance as well but it just wasn't his race. All them people in that room are there to see one thing and that's a battle. You gotta come back wit some shots on his appearance, wat he's rockin, how he's dressed etc. You don't have to know them personally becuz if they do, shit could sound pre written but its better imo if dudes don't know each other becuz shit would just go back and forth. Jones attacked his culture becuz he know he'd get alotta laughs and he was a minority in that room, yes, but it's not like Jin couldn't diss him bout his race he just didn't have the balls which I guess is understandable. When it all comes down to it though Jones simply won cuz he had the punches whether they were personal OR general.
the fact that it takes balls to do it alone should tell you that he couldn't have won dissing blacks, they the ones who decide who wins.
take away the racial part and the battle woulda been completely different. the outcome of a battle shouldn't depend on the race.
Excatly and it wasn't. Jin didn't come off hard enogh, Jones did wit the punches period. It just so happens most of his powerful hits were race related. Jones won and I agree he should have.
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Neither of them new each other well but Jin being Asian set Jones off to be more personal wit the shit. Jones dissed Jin about his race and Jin dissed Jones about his appearance as well but it just wasn't his race. All them people in that room are there to see one thing and that's a battle. You gotta come back wit some shots on his appearance, wat he's rockin, how he's dressed etc. You don't have to know them personally becuz if they do, shit could sound pre written but its better imo if dudes don't know each other becuz shit would just go back and forth. Jones attacked his culture becuz he know he'd get alotta laughs and he was a minority in that room, yes, but it's not like Jin couldn't diss him bout his race he just didn't have the balls which I guess is understandable. When it all comes down to it though Jones simply won cuz he had the punches whether they were personal OR general.
the fact that it takes balls to do it alone should tell you that he couldn't have won dissing blacks, they the ones who decide who wins.
take away the racial part and the battle woulda been completely different. the outcome of a battle shouldn't depend on the race.
Excatly and it wasn't. Jin didn't come off hard enogh, Jones did wit the punches period. It just so happens most of his powerful hits were race related. Jones won and I agree he should have.
that's where I strongly disagree, it didn't just so happen, Jin was handicapped by the fact that his opponent kept gettin at him with shit that he couldn't come back at without insulting the same people that decide who wins. Jones knew that. I don't see that as a fair situation but whatever
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I think he quit makin records, now he just tries to make money battling the battle vs Jones was for 10 g's
yeah but he had his revenge, one other emcee defeated serious jones and jin killed that other mc. Then he asked jones for a revenge for 50 000$ and he decline the offer
yeah serious lost to proffesor green who is from the uk, jin then beat prof green and called out serious for a rematch. Serious declined, some claim he was told and decided not to come back to the stage others say he had already left the building. Jin also challenged him again and he declined the challenge.
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You can watch the battles on Youtube, just do search for Jin and Serius Jones, there are 3 rounds.
To me the Jin did have a major disadvantage, because the crowd responded really well to the racial jokes about Jin, which Jin could not say the same thing back, else he knew he would got the beat down.
But this probably a common problem Jin must suffer about people attacking his race, i would have imagined Jin would be more prepared against these racial jokes, and could of used it to his advantage knowing people would attck his race?!?!
Even the one of the judge who is "Miss Info" (asian) said Serius Jones was at a low point using racial jokes, but admitted that on the third round tiebreaker Seriius Jones did take the title, when he did not use racial attacks.
For me personally Serius Jones did have an advantage of having somethign to work with (history of Jin), where as Jin did'nt know anything about Serius Jones. This attacking of Jin's history (e.g. Ruff Ryders) was responded well by the crowd, but Jin didn't have anythign to work on. and people love that when you attack someone personally thats related to them instead of made up stuff.
Jin knew he lost as well on the last around, he mentioned it in his lyrics. based on the last round, the tiebreaker, i would say Serius Jones is the winner, but I tunderstadn the reasons why, maybe it was just one of those days for jin.