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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on March 08, 2005, 03:32:20 AM
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What does your church believe in?
Tell us anything you'd like about your religion, Thank you.
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LoL@an ironic topic about extreme devotion to a religion by Infinite
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I've told you about it 20 times, it's none of your business because you don't seek information, you seek points of contention.
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Trauma's got a good point. he can waste some time writing a long story where people are just going to repond and call him an incestuous hick or make fun of his beliefs...you really have no interest in his religion, you just want to hear a story then you'll compare it to your own religion and point out how yours is better
i think you're the only brainwashed idiot that would fall for such a set up infinite
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id like to have 8 wives and 25 children
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id like to have 8 wives and 25 children
That's only part of it... would you also like to have intercourse with your children and nephews/nieces? Then the Church of Latter Day Saints is for you!
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id like to have 8 wives and 25 children
That's only part of it... would you also like to have intercourse with your children and nephews/nieces? Then the Church of Latter Day Saints is for you!
sign me up :D
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id like to have 8 wives and 25 children
That's only part of it... would you also like to have intercourse with your children and nephews/nieces? Then the Church of Latter Day Saints is for you!
sign me up :D
Talk to Trauma... he would have more info about this
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Don't they get to wear magical underwear too? I'm not trying to be a dick about it, that's what I've heard.
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Don't they get to wear magical underwear too? I'm not trying to be a dick about it, that's what I've heard.
LMAO... and you say I'm fucked up... LOLLL
But now that you mention it... isn't Harry Potter a Mormon in the movie?
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lmao
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Like I said, I've talked about it dozens of times on here, all you have to do is search for it. I've talked publicly and privately to infinite about it, as well. In conclusion, I've also talked on here about how I haven't went to church in years, and I'm not even a member. The underwear thing is partially true, as well. I never wore it, but I saw people that did. Not my cup of tea. If you've ever met a mormon, though, you know they're nice people, and anyone that would talk trash about them is suspect in my opinion. What is the purpose of knocking good people down?
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What is the purpose of knocking good people down?
Ask yourself that, you faggot.
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I've also talked on here about how I haven't went to church in years, and I'm not even a member.
You say you talk about it all the time, but really, I didn't know you weren't a Mormon anymore, why did you leave?
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I've also talked on here about how I haven't went to church in years, and I'm not even a member.
You say you talk about it all the time, but really, I didn't know you weren't a Mormon anymore, why did you leave?
Because of my posts.
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What is the purpose of knocking good people down?
Ask yourself that, you faggot.
what a sad individual you were.
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lol
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If you've ever met a mormon, though, you know they're nice people, and anyone that would talk trash about them is suspect in my opinion. What is the purpose of knocking good people down?
I don't usually consider people who advocate a "shock and awe" bombing campaign against a soveriegn nation that has never attacked the United States, a war that killed 100,000 Iraqi's... I don't consider people who advocate such acts to be nice and good people. I'm sure some of them are, but one of their leaders was on TV and he said the official position of the war was that they were in support of George Bush! Is George Bush a good and nice man, is what he is doing torturing and killing those people in Iraq good and nice? I didn't think Jesus or John Smith gave an example of being an aggressor?
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If you've ever met a mormon, though, you know they're nice people, and anyone that would talk trash about them is suspect in my opinion. What is the purpose of knocking good people down?
I don't usually consider people who advocate a "shock and awe" bombing campaign against a soveriegn nation that has never attacked the United States, a war that killed 100,000 Iraqi's... I don't consider people who advocate such acts to be nice and good people. I'm sure some of them are, but one of their leaders was on TV and he said the official position of the war was that they were in support of George Bush! Is George Bush a good and nice man, is what he is doing torturing and killing those people in Iraq good and nice? I didn't think Jesus or John Smith gave an example of being an aggressor?
infinite.. you're making yourself look a fool again.
where does this all BS come from?
is george bush a mormon? no.
this has no relevance at all. 'mr paranoid victim syndrome'.
i haven't heard about mormon's being instrumental in, or any part of the 'war on terror'.
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If you've ever met a mormon, though, you know they're nice people, and anyone that would talk trash about them is suspect in my opinion. What is the purpose of knocking good people down?
I don't usually consider people who advocate a "shock and awe" bombing campaign against a soveriegn nation that has never attacked the United States, a war that killed 100,000 Iraqi's... I don't consider people who advocate such acts to be nice and good people. I'm sure some of them are, but one of their leaders was on TV and he said the official position of the war was that they were in support of George Bush! Is George Bush a good and nice man, is what he is doing torturing and killing those people in Iraq good and nice? I didn't think Jesus or John Smith gave an example of being an aggressor?
allah must have for all these terrorist acts around the world to be taking place...
man before you point the finger look at how fucked up epople in your own religion are... every piece of bullshit you post on this message board makes it look like your beliefs are the greatest good... truth is everything that any of us believe in is fucked up... christians have murdered millions of people and enslaved millions, muslims have murdered millions and enslaved millions... athiests have murdered millions and enslaved millions
i don't see why you continuously point the blame in other places while pople in your religion are fucked up themselves....
i guess this does prove me wrong... retards do make fun of other retards
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i don't see why you continuously point the blame in other places while pople in your religion are fucked up themselves....
its a shame you haven't seen infinite evolve from the mixed up/dysfunctional christian 'majoring in english' kid who worshipped pac and eminem to what he is now.
from the outset he has continued to blame everything wrong with his life on other people.. from the girl who spurned him to christianity.
he has a persecution complex.
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too bad he doesn't try a suicide bombing attempt...he'd probably just fuck up and kill himself
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Most Christians, like Trauma, will tell you on one hand that the people of their religion are good and nice, and that their God, Jesus, turned the other cheek and was peaceful. One of the leaders of the Church of Latter Day Saints was on television and he said that the offical position of the Mormons was that they were in support of George Bush in his war. I'm not calling their religion "bad", that is just my reply to Trauma saying that they are all nice and good people.
... Then, second of all, Muslims on the other hand, do not claim to be non-violent. Muslims don't ever claim that the Prophet Muhammad was non-violent. Therefore, when Muslims are violent, it is not hypocritical. In the Qu'ran it says, "Fight those who fight You". So when 50 years ago the United States decided that they would start fighting for oil in the Muslim world, Muslims fought back against those who were fighting them.
Is that simple enough, or do you need me to explain again?
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Most Christians, like Trauma, will tell you on one hand that the people of their religion are good and nice, and that their God, Jesus, turned the other cheek and was peaceful. One of the leaders of the Church of Latter Day Saints was on television and he said that the offical position of the Mormons was that they were in support of George Bush in his war. I'm not calling their religion "bad", that is just my reply to Trauma saying that they are all nice and good people.
... Then, second of all, as far as my own religion. We do not claim to be non-violent. Infact, we don't ever claim that the Prophet Muhammad was non-violent. Therefore, when we are violent, it is not hypocritical. In the Qu'ran it says, "Fight those who fight You". So when the United States decided to start fighting for oil in the Muslim world, Muslims fought back against those who were fighting them.
Is that simple enough, or do you need me to explain again?
well in the bible, god wiped out the earth when he got pissed at the people and made it rain 40 days and 40 nights
so the christian americans got pissed at muslims and made it rain bombs and missles for a reasonable amount of time wiping out the muslims
so i guess we're both even when it comes to religions
and you believe in either of those examples you're a dumb motherfucker
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Why you people gives a flying fuck which religion Trauma follows? It's his life, and we can chat for hours clowining other people's religions. He's right: 90% of you dont really wanna know more infor about it but about Trauma. To clown him.
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I'm too big of a man for Infinite to tear down individually, even though i admit I fully support the Iraqi war. I fully support the war on terror, and I fully support George Bush. My religion isn't even necessary, Brian. Attack me personally if that's what you want to do, you don't need to attack my religion. I have continuously exposed you for the sad, pathetic little boy you are, and you don't like that, so you look for ways to attack me. Since Mormons are generally despised by everyone in the world, including chiefly the Christians you have absolutely no connection with, it's convieant for you to use that as a way to attack me. How's your daddy's drinking?
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Actually, I didn't say much about you personally in this thread. All I did was argue your point that any Mormon you meet is a good and nice person, because to me, good and nice people don't advocate, as an official church statement, an agressive war that kills 100,000 people.
If your not a Mormon anymore and you don't want to talk about this or any subject regarding religoin, that's fine, but this is a religion and polotics forum, and that's all I did was made a religious and political statement. And actually my statement was very light compared to other people, my comments were not disrespectful. It's a reasonable objection to make, that good and nice people don't generally advocate waging an aggressive attack that kills 100,000 people who never did anything to them. You shouldn't pay so much attention to me all the time.
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What being a good and nice people has to do with the war in Iraq, man? Shit, you are pathetic now. Like if Christians never fought a war. Like if Muslims aint killing other people for Allah. Like if in Africa they aint killing millions of people just cause they dont want to follow a religion. Like if.. shit, why am i wasting my time with you anyway?
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What being a good and nice people has to do with the war in Iraq, man? Shit, you are pathetic now. Like if Christians never fought a war. Like if Muslims aint killing other people for Allah. Like if in Africa they aint killing millions of people just cause they dont want to follow a religion. Like if.. shit, why am i wasting my time with you anyway?
yeah it's useless man, he forgets people in his religion said that they were going to wipe out all of the jews in the middle east... he forgets that people in his religion wants to kill everyone in the west
he's just mad mormons have the power to do what they say on a more massive scale than muslims can.... because if muslims had the kind of technology the US has... all the jews and the US wouldn't even exist anymore
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But that's not even the problem. I mean i dont think there are good religions and bad religions. I dont think a person is "nice and good" if he has an opinion instead of another, or if he calls his God Allah or whatever. The evil is inside every man, no matter the color of his skin, or the religion he supports, or the set he claims. A man is "nice and good" if he controls this evil who's inside of him. If he does it with the help of a religion, then good for him. If he does it not believing in a God (like 7even, for example), then good for him. I dont care with religion he follows. If he follows one. I'm Christian. There are Christians who cant control the evil. There are Christians who supported the war and Christians who didnt. So it has nothing to do with "external" things, or with religions. It's all about yourself. You have to control evil. If you dont, you aint "nice and good". Simple.
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What being a good and nice people has to do with the war in Iraq, man?
What do good and nice people have to do with Iraq? Good and nice people stood up against the war in Iraq.
Shit, you are pathetic now. Like if Christians never fought a war. Like if Muslims aint killing other people for Allah.
I never said Muslims hadn't killed anyone for Allah, they have. Even the Prophet Muhammad killed people for Allah. The Noble Qu'ran gives Muslims to permission to fight against people who fight them.
Like if in Africa they aint killing millions of people just cause they dont want to follow a religion. Like if.. shit, why am i wasting my time with you anyway?
What does Africa have to do with anything? I don't understand why you brought up Africa in replying to my statements. Maybe your emotions got in the way, calm down, and try to make sense next time, and maybe we can have a decent discussion.
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What do good and nice people have to do with Iraq? Good and nice people stood up against the war in Iraq.
Against every war, not only that one. Good and nice people should love jews, they should not be kamikazee, they should not kill Americans not even if America is invading your Country. They should just love and respect. So, like you can see, it's pointless to say so, cause this shit will never happens.
I never said Muslims hadn't killed anyone for Allah, they have. Even the Prophet Muhammad killed people for Allah. The Noble Qu'ran gives Muslims to permission to fight against people who fight them.
ROFL!! So you can kill sometimes, and sometimes not? It all depends? What a stupid point you have here? Sorry if it's disrespecting for the Qu'ran, i dont want to, but c'mon now!! You're talking about "good and nice" people, and at the same time you are saying "the Noble Qu'ran gives Muslims to permission to fight against people who fight them"? The fact it's written in a book doesnt make a killer a "good and nice" person imo. He's still a killer. I cant accept that. I'm a Christian. My Church doesnt permitt you to kill, not even to defend yourself. An homicide is an homicide. If you are a true Christian, you should die instead of killing another people. That's the highest expression of love (to God) possible. To die instead of to kill. There's a whole different philosophy here between "us" and "you", and that's the reason why you can never blame Christians to do wars in the name of our God. When Christians do it, they're doing it for themselves, not for our God or religion. When Bush said he was fighting with the blessing of God, he was just lying. He did this war for himself, not for God. Cause the Church is against any war, occupations, rebellions. And the philosophy you just reported is the main reason why Muslim is "dangerous" in the minds of stupid people. Cause when you think you can kill someone and your God will be happy about it, you became a monster. So much that you can destroy other people's life, children, women, innocent people, you can flight into the Two Towers, you can kill italian Carabinieri, behead journalists, etc.. You should hold on and reflect about it. To kill someone for defence is still an homicide.
What does Africa have to do with anything? I don't understand why you brought up Africa in replying to my statements. Maybe your emotions got in the way, calm down, and try to make sense next time, and maybe we can have a decent discussion.
Isnt Africa a Continent like Europe, America and Asia? Well this shit of people killing for their religion happens there too, if you didnt know. More than in Asia, more than in Europa, more than in America. So yes, Africa.
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Against every war, not only that one. Good and nice people should love jews, they should not be kamikazee, they should not kill Americans not even if America is invading your Country. They should just love and respect. So, like you can see, it's pointless to say so, cause this shit will never happens.
ROFL!! So you can kill sometimes, and sometimes not? It all depends? What a stupid point you have here? Sorry if it's disrespecting for the Qu'ran, i dont want to, but c'mon now!! You're talking about "good and nice" people, and at the same time you are saying "the Noble Qu'ran gives Muslims to permission to fight against people who fight them"? The fact it's written in a book doesnt make a killer a "good and nice" person imo. He's still a killer. I cant accept that. I'm a Christian. My Church doesnt permitt you to kill, not even to defend yourself. An homicide is an homicide. If you are a true Christian, you should die instead of killing another people. That's the highest expression of love (to God) possible. To die instead of to kill. There's a whole different philosophy here between "us" and "you",
So let's say someone invades your house, and starts abusing your wife and children, they tell you that you can keep the basement, but they take over the rest of the house, your just supposed to let them do it? What kind of man, husband, and father would you be? To let someone take over your house and have their own way with your wife and kids?...... Sometimes it is a very righteous thing to resist injustice.
Cause the Church is against any war, occupations, rebellions.
^^ The Church was not against the war! That was the whole point of my post to Trauma in the first place. An official from the Church of Latter Day Saints said that the official stance of the Church was in support of the war and in support of George Bush.
Isnt Africa a Continent like Europe, America and Asia? Well this shit of people killing for their religion happens there too, if you didnt know. More than in Asia, more than in Europa, more than in America. So yes, Africa.
I'll ask you the same question I asked you before. What does Africa have to do with anything? Why did you even bring Africa up?
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So let's say someone invades your house, and starts abusing your wife and children, they tell you that you can keep the basement, but they take over the rest of the house, your just supposed to let them do it? What kind of man, husband, and father would you be? To let someone take over your house and have their own way with your wife and kids?...... Sometimes it is a very righteous thing to resist injustice.
I'm not saying that, hold on. I'm talking about killing people, not just defending yourself if someone is trying to kill you or your wife. Think about what you just wrote for a second please: you're justifying kamikazee's in Israel, you're justifying people beheading americans in the name of Allah, you're justifying massacres. You're justifying the same war, but from another point of view: from the Iraq side. That's why i think Qu'ran can be dangerous. My Church (Roman Church) is against any type of violence, no matter who started it. So like that no war can be justified, no murder can have a justification. That's the main difference between our religions, i think. It's the philosophy that is different. You are saying Americans are wrong and cant kill, but Iraqi can. That's dangerous, man. The Pope is against Americans and against Iraqi who kills. Cause deaths are all the same, there are no deaths who can be justified or, even worse, supported and allowed by a religion. Imo.
^^ The Church was not against the war! That was the whole point of my post to Trauma in the first place. An official from the Church of Latter Day Saints said that the official stance of the Church was in support of the war and in support of George Bush.
Sorry i dont understand. The Church of Latter Day Saints is a special branch of the Roman Church? I was talking about the Roman Church, Christians Catholics. This dialogue between me and you is Roman Church vs Muslims. I dont know if Trauma's religion supported the war. But for example Roman Church supported Italian mission in Iraq. But we aint there fighting a war. We're there helping Iraqi.
I'll ask you the same question I asked you before. What does Africa have to do with anything? Why did you even bring Africa up?
Shit i wasnt talking about muslims in particular. I was talking about the fact people still kill for religion. And that was just another example. I talked about Christians, about muslims, and about people in Africa too. If you dont like it, just ignore that line. But there are big problems there too. Only difference: no oil.
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Sorry i dont understand. The Church of Latter Day Saints is a special branch of the Roman Church? I was talking about the Roman Church, Christians Catholics. This dialogue between me and you is Roman Church vs Muslims. I dont know if Trauma's religion supported the war.
Origionally the thread was about Trauma and Mormons. I made my statements concerning Trauma and Mormons. The Church of Latter Day Saints consider themselves to be Christians. I was talking about Christians generally and Mormons specifically. But now you are informing me that we are talking about Roman Church vs. Muslims. Now that I know that I will speak on the Catholic Church specifically. Yes, you are right, the Catholic Church did a very good thing, not only did the Pope denounce this war and take an anti-war stance, but I think the official stance of the Catholic Church was also against the 1rst Gulf War. Not because they have been against all wars indefinitely, but because they felt that America's war in Iraq was morally wrong, and that it is a corrupt, imperialistic war... which it is.
Only difference (with Africa): no oil.
There is oil all over Africa. Nigeria, Libya, Sudan, and others have oil just as plentiful as the oil in the Middle East. And they are still drilling all over Africa for more oil yet to be discovered.
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Origionally the thread was about Trauma and Mormons. I made my statements concerning Trauma and Mormons. The Church of Latter Day Saints consider themselves to be Christians. I was talking about Christians generally and Mormons specifically. But now you are informing me that we are talking about Roman Church vs. Muslims. Now that I know that I will speak on the Catholic Church specifically.
I know they consider themselves to be Christians, but they aint considered like that from the Catholic Church, you know what i mean? The only thing in common with Catholic Church is that they believe in God, like us. So they're like two whole different religions. I'm talking for myself and for the Catholic Church.
Yes, you are right, the Catholic Church did a very good thing, not only did the Pope denounce this war and take an anti-war stance, but I think the official stance of the Catholic Church was also against the 1rst Gulf War. Not because they have been against all wars indefinitely, but because they felt that America's war in Iraq was morally wrong, and that it is a corrupt, imperialistic war... which it is.
Well you said it in a way the Pope didnt say it. Your is an interpretation. However it's a fact the Pope condamned this war and he's against all the "preventive" wars, yes.
There is oil all over Africa. Nigeria, Libya, Sudan, and others have oil just as plentiful as the oil in the Middle East. And they are still drilling all over Africa for more oil yet to be discovered.
Well that's a good thing to discuss, but let's stay on topic. We'll discuss about it next time (remember it).
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Mormons believe in following the law of the land, and that the United States was blessed by God from it's inception, and they fully support the government, especially in war times. That's why they support the war, there's no specific reason for it, other than they support the government in everything they do. They believe the constitution was inspired by God, and the United States was founded as a place of religious freedom for all people, of any nation to come to avoid persecution. They're typically very patriotic people, and would support any war the United States chose to enter. The aspects of the government that the church doesn't agree with (Abortion, etc.) they feel they should work to peacefully, civily change the laws, not break the laws, and that if it's the lord's will, the laws, etc. will be changed.
A good example is that the Mormons after moving west, had a ton of men die on the trip, in the fall and winter to Utah... so upon arriving there, being unable to decide how to mate their ideas of women being supported by their families, and the belief that women shouldn't live with men they're not married to... they started marrying multiple wives, practicing polygamy, and all kinds of twisted warped stuff. After a while, the United States government passed a law making it Illegal to practice polygamy, and the church immediately outlawed it, splintering the church into two factions and causing all sorts of problems. The official stance of the church was that God wanted them first to obey the laws of the land, and that his law would fall in line with that. The book of Mormon (written supposedly before the 2nd century A.D., but at latest written by Joseph Smith himself in the 1830's, years before this polygamy debate) itself mentions Polygamy as ungodly and an abomination, etc.
So there's an example of Mormons supporting the government, even when it conflicts with their views.
GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!!
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Mormons believe in following the law of the land, and that the United States was blessed by God from it's inception, and they fully support the government, especially in war times. They're typically very patriotic people, and would support any war the United States chose to enter.
GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!!
So let me get this straight, they support the United States in any war?
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id like to have 8 wives and 25 children
That's only part of it... would you also like to have intercourse with your children and nephews/nieces? Then the Church of Latter Day Saints is for you!
sign me up :D
LMAO