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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: infinite59 on September 07, 2002, 10:05:12 PM
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Sub-Z knowledged me that Everlast is a Muslim...he had me download a song of his.... "Graves to Dig". I used to hate Everlast because of the whole Eminem thing, and I didn't think he was that dope as a solo artist. Now I feel bad for ever speaking down on him.
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yeah you should....you close minded eminem dickrider!! >:(
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I never thought Everlast was wack. Whitey Ford Sings The Blues is a pretty tight album.
Eminem just got his fuckin head up his ass. Anyone that doesn't kiss ass ans call him the greatest is considered a diss to Em. It's funny how Em doesn't even bother him anymore since he actually retaliated with a decent diss.
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everlast is dope,motha fuckas need to stop hatin,infinite saw the light,now everyone else can too!!! ;D
p.s.eat at whiteys is even better than whitey ford sings the blues,so check it out
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Sub-Z knowledged me that Everlast is a Muslim...he had me download a song of his.... "Graves to Dig". I used to hate Everlast because of the whole Eminem thing, and I didn't think he was that dope as a solo artist. Now I feel bad for ever speaking down on him.
Just beacuse somebody shares the same religion as you dosen't mean you have to like them. If you didn't like him before you found out he was a muslim, why should you feel bad for what you said?
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Just beacuse somebody shares the same religion as you dosen't mean you have to like them. If you didn't like him before you found out he was a muslim, why should you feel bad for what you said?
You wouldn't understand.... It's a Muslim thang..... Muslims have been through alot in our history. And it's a shared experience. Muhammad and his followers in the 7th century were persecuted out of Mecca into Medina. And they had to biuld a makeshift mosque out of twigs. Muhammad observed them working so closely together, and everyone noted that they had never seen such a true state of brother hood. It was said then that all Muslims are all brothers-in-faith. We are all one family.
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You wouldn't understand.... It's a Muslim thang
Guess not... No religion could make me change who I like and dislike...
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Guess not... No religion could make me change who I like and dislike...
That's because you don't have anything binding you with another human being. I do. I am a Muslim. And we are all one family. We have a shared set of aspirations and beliefs. And we have a shared history of struggle. It runs deep. To hear that Everlast is a Muslim, makes me proud that another white man in America has chosen the same path as me. All praises to Allah the most high. There is no like unto him!!!!!!!
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wrong again.... just coz he's a muslim dont make him dope >:( bigot...
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I just rememberd...
Didn't Eminem make fun of him for this on one of the diss tracks he did to him back in the day?
"But your'e a homosexual, white rapping Irish muslim" or something to that extent
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wrong again.... just coz he's a muslim dont make him dope >:( bigot...
People listen to Snoop because they are attracted to his character.
In the same vien, I am attracted to the Muslim character. I will not allow you to try and plant seeds of division between myself and my Muslim brothers!!!!!!!! We, as a family, never have and never will allow that!!!!!!!!!!!!
Al Hamdu Lillahi Rabbil Al Ameen. Arrahimineer Raheem!!!!!! Please guide those who lack vision!!!!!!!
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That's because you don't have anything binding you with another human being. I do. I am a Muslim. And we are all one family. We have a shared set of aspirations and beliefs. And we have a shared history of struggle. It runs deep. To hear that Everlast is a Muslim, makes me proud that another white man in America has chosen the same path as me. All praises to Allah the most high. There is no like unto him!!!!!!!
Im amazed you know me so well through our limited interaction over the internet! Could you tell me how you learned so much about me? This is an amazing skill, I would love to have it!
Overseer is right. You are a bigot. Just because Im not Muslim dosen't mean that I can't have things in common with another human.
Listen. Just beacuse you share things common things together dosen't mean you should like or dilike somebody.
Do you like every single Muslim you meet? Is there one Muslim out there you don't like?
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Im amazed you know me so well through our limited interaction over the internet! Could you tell me how you learned so much about me? This is an amazing skill, I would love to have it!
Listen. Just beacuse you share things common things together dosen't mean you should like or dilike somebody.
Do you like every single Muslim you meet? Is there one Muslim out there you don't like?
What you are asking me to do is make distinctions between one Muslim and another Muslim. And I will never play that game with you!!!!!!!! You are a mischief maker, and Allah and his holy Prophet Muhammad have made it so you can never seperate the bond amongst Muslims!!!!!! Be sure of that!!!!!!!
Assalamu Alaina wa ala ibadillahis-saliheen!!!!!!!
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Come on y'all, you know what he meant. He is saying he got respect for Everast now because he is a Muslim. He didn't say he is the dopest rapper alive because he is Muslim. I understand where your coming from. I find myself being drawn to those who are Christian because I feel more comfortable with it whether its music, sports, or anything. You look up to them, you know.
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Come on y'all, you know what he meant. He is saying he got respect for Everast now because he is a Muslim. He didn't say he is the dopest rapper alive because he is Muslim. I understand where your coming from. I find myself being drawn to those who are Christian because I feel more comfortable with it whether its music, sports, or anything. You look up to them, you know.
Real recognize Real!!!!!!
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Come on y'all, you know what he meant. He is saying he got respect for Everast now because he is a Muslim. He didn't say he is the dopest rapper alive because he is Muslim. I understand where your coming from. I find myself being drawn to those who are Christian because I feel more comfortable with it whether its music, sports, or anything. You look up to them, you know.
exactly. engelwood, overseer, i bet yall can be some real cool cats and all, i mean yall have been cool with me, but it seems like yall are just stickin to infinte and tryin to give him a hard time with every little thing he says, give the guy a break yall.
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exactly. engelwood, overseer, i bet yall can be some real cool cats and all, i mean yall have been cool with me, but it seems like yall are just stickin to infinte and tryin to give him a hard time with every little thing he says, give the guy a break yall.
Im just tryin to find out the reasoning behind his decision to flip on something like that...
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Im just tryin to find out the reasoning behind his decision to flip on something like that...
There was a hidden barb in your questioning. And I am well aware of it. The Muslim mind is trained, pure, as true and devine as nature itself. We can detect a hidden barb of the smallest degree. All praises to the Allah the most high for sending the prophet Muhammad as a mercy to us. So that we would not have to live in ignorance!!!!!!! Al Hamdu Illah!!!!!
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It's funny how Em doesn't even bother him anymore since he actually retaliated with a decent diss.
He probably doesn't bother him cause he served him with two serious dis records "I Remember" and "Quitter".
He didn't need anymore, like Nas doesn't have to do any more against Jay cause he already won.
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First of all, Infinite HOW COULD YOU! DIDNT U KNOW HE WAS MUSLIM, lol
second of all, i still see some dick riding going on, cmon guys is this what u have to resort to....
and third, Everlast served Eminem ;D
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He probably doesn't bother him cause he served him with two serious dis records "I Remember" and "Quitter".
He didn't need anymore, like Nas doesn't have to do any more against Jay cause he already won.
maybe its just me,but i thought eminems disses were total bullshit
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infinite likes him cuz he feels he can relate being a muslim n all.......i dont see why y'all frontin over it...plus y'all know what he means
my big bro converted muslim AGES ago and his like infinite.......he got love for all other muslims out ther.......
i mean even as his bro i dont understand it, i guess infinites rite.......its a muslim thang.....we wudnt understand lol
jus like when i find out someone prefers west coast music over east i feel i kan relate to them kinda thang
peace
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I've always liked Everlast. I think Eminem kinda clowned him with "Quitter" but man, Everlast served him with 'whitey strikes back" or whatever that was. He dissed him, his wife, his kid, everybody, lol. It was pretty hard. It was all true, though. Everlast's been through a lot, he had a heart attack one night after recording part of "whitey ford", had open heart surgery, etc.
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Sikotic is right. Infinite just has more respect for him cause his muslim. You guys need to stop tripping.
P.S. I didn't know he was a muslim, thanks for the info. Infinite.
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He probably doesn't bother him cause he served him with two serious dis records "I Remember" and "Quitter".
He didn't need anymore, like Nas doesn't have to do any more against Jay cause he already won.
Nah, I think it's because he didn't want another diss to his daughter like Everlast's first one. You know that hit Em hard.
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Everlast served him with 'whitey strikes back" or whatever that was
it was "whiteys revenge" and yea it was dope
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Sikotic is right. Infinite just has more respect for him cause his muslim. You guys need to stop tripping.
One last thing. Im not trippin...
Take this example. This is not true, just a example...
Lets say I just found Christianity, Im super into it. Before I found Christianity, I really didn't like Nelly. Now after a while being a Christian, I find out Nelly is a Christian, Why should I like him based on that fact alone?
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^^ I see what both Englewood and Infinite are saying. Just cause Everlast is a muslim, doesn't mean his music is any better. However, I understand why Infinite would relate to him. If I found out nelly was a devout christian, I might gain respect for him as a person, but I'd still think he was wack. Anyways, I feel both of you on this one. LOL.
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One last thing. Im not trippin...
Take this example. This is not true, just a example...
Lets say I just found Christianity, Im super into it. Before I found Christianity, I really didn't like Nelly. Now after a while being a Christian, I find out Nelly is a Christian, Why should I like him based on that fact alone?
No-one likes Nelly anyway.... 8)
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i think everlast is a hard spitter...hes not top notch lyrically but he came at eminem with all he had...held his own...though he never came back at dj quik(u cant fuck witta nigga!!!!)....but i dont see how u like him just cuz hes muslim...thats hypocritical to me...thats like if u hate gays a homie then he tells u hes gay then u turn and around and bust out "well hes not my homie no more"....hypocrite shit...but fuck it thats u not me
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Yeah Everlast is dope, hes a good singer and a cool rapper, i like some of his songs, peace
-{bLaDe}
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First off, let me clear this up before I go further...Everlast is cool...Nothing amazing, but he had some dope cuts back in the days...
Second off, I can't fuckin belive Infinite didn't know Everlast was a Muslim...You ever heard the played out, classic cut "Jump Around"?...Here are some lyrics:
I'm the cream of the crop, I rise to the top/I never eat a pig, cause a pig is a cop...
Sounds familiar?...Plus, Eminem disses him about being a White/Irish Muslim on "I Remember"...Here are the lyrics:
But you're a homosexual, white rappin Irish *Muslim*/Man I wish I was Irish, I could be a *Muslim* too/Then I'd be confused as you, and I wouldn't know what to do...
The word 'Muslim' was scratched out on the song, because I think Eminem didnt wanna show any disrespect to Muslims...Here are some lyrics towards him being Muslim from the song "Quitter":
You claim to be a Muslim but you Irish White/So fuck you fat boy, drop the mic, let's fight...
and this time the word Muslim wasn't scratched out...LoL, Infinite, how did u miss that...??
Now third off, Infinite, you are racist...It's like you're saying "I thought he was whack, but I found out he was Muslim, so now he's tight"...Him being Muslim doesn't change his music...That is racist as fuck, homie...So what, he's a fuckin Muslim... So Muslims can't make whack music? Racist, Racist, RACIST!...And just because he's a Muslim doesn't mean he's a good person...There are bad people in every Race/Religion...Infinite u need to stop thinking everyone who is Muslim is a fuckin Angel or something...~One Love, One Nation~ PeACe
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and third, Everlast served Eminem
Technique...Come on now, its obvious u're saying this because Everlast is a 'fellow Muslim brother'...U're racist as well...
Everlasts First diss Verse from "Ear Drums Pop Remix":
I read the New Testament and gave it up for Lent
All the places I went just to pay my rent
Used to keep me bent, on a ritual daily
Cock my hammer, spit a Comet like Haley
I'll buck a three-eighty on ones that act Shady
I'm original like Grady, check my Sanford, Son
You know you ain't the one that rep peckerwood status
I'll bust that ass, keep your eyes on the floor
What you comin here for, son you know the law
Let's take it back to the house, slide off your blouse
Lift up your skirt and expose your panties
For the world to see, you can't rep it like me
I'm Communist, terrorist, vandalist
Catalyst, scandalous, masacous, never miss battalist
You must be crazy, or just plain dumb
You might catch a beatdown now where I come from
It's like that[/i]
Eminems Verse from "I Remember":
Remember back in '94, like right before Ms. Everlast was Whitey Ford
Before his heart attack had him on life support
When house of pain was out of fame like someone doused the flame
And they became destined to never jump around again
Or even further back, when i first had heard The Knack
And you were down with Syndicate, I went to get your shit, man
I was into it
But then you went and took your style and switched the shit
Now you sound rediculous you dickless piece of shit,
How could you diss me, bitch?
I liked you... thought you was alright for a white dude,
Remember Sway and Tech when I came up and sat beside you
Started rhymin, then you left the room
and didn't say goodbye or nothin?
Like you was mad that someone else was
White and tried to rhyme or somethin
I'm sorry man, I wasn't tryin to steal your light or nothin
But you're a homosexual, white rappin Irish *Muslim*
Man I wish I was Irish, I could be a *Muslim* too
Then I'd be confused as you, and I wouldn't know what to do
What's up with you?
I never fucked with you, why would you fuck with me?
Knowin I could rap circles around you, what, are you as nuts as me?
Plus I can sing better than you and I don't fuckin sing
And probably play guitar better, and I ain't never touched a string
But I ain't mad at you, I'd hate me too if I was you
I'm what you used to be, shit you was me in '92
So everytime I write a lyric, I'mma think of you
And maybe that will help me know what it's like to sing the blues[/b]
Everlast's Reply Verse from "Whitey's Revenge":
Here come the mighty
One they call Whitey
All you sons of Whitey
Are all dickbiters
So won't that bitch Slim Shady please act up?
Get smacked up, get your eyes blacked up
With your candy-ass name you're a candy-ass rapper
I'll smack you up, shut you off like the Clapper
Whoever said you was raw, son, they lied
I know that shit I spit on Dilated hurt your pride
Screamin' on a record how you wish I died
But you don't wanna see me on this physical side
You're just a big tough guy, tryin' to act hard
But you won't walk a lobby without your bodyguard
You ain't pullin' my card, you ain't ridin' the train
Back in the day, kids like you got robbed for they chain
Step to me like a man, with the hands, and get slain
Matter of fact, when you see me, bitch, gimme some brain
Yo, it's like that, we could fight, Jack
Let's put the mics down, you'll catch a beatdown
I get love in New York, got fam in L.A.
And I heard you might be the MC that's gay
With your platinum blonde Caesar, you look like a ho
Like M and M stands for Marilyn Monroe
Talkin' 'bout killin' sprees, you ain't like that, yo
Makin' lots of enemies, but that's all for show
You punk ecstasy junkie, you waste of skills
Stop ridin' my tails, stay high on pills
Yo, I hope you OD, don't come playin' with me
Little bitch, better watch what you're sayin' to me
Talkin' shit for shock value, boy, you ain't real
Turned hard the day Dre gave you a record deal
Went and sold your soul for some acid pills
Servin' up that hors d'oeuvre, man, now eat this meal
Instead of worryin' about who you should be dissin'
You need to worry about who your wifey been kissin'
Or if you go to prison while you're doin' your bid
I'll look in on your lady and do things for your kid
Make her write you lots of letters about the things that we did
And send you pictures of me chillin' all up in your crib
That shit about Sway n' Tek? That was a fib
First time you met me I showed you love in D.C.
But you were scared like a pussy with your eyes on the floor
While your crew showed me love outside the front door
Talkin' 'bout "Yo, whassup, ain't you Whitey Ford?
I love that song 'What It's Like' and that jam 'Praise the Lord'"
I don't do this for the money, yo, I do it for fun
You may hang around some gangstas, but you ain't one
And you won't be slappin' me with no empty gun
Talkin' 'bout a ?? but you a one in drag
And you can't keep your woman from goin' astray
Better run and check your kid for your DNA
I take care of my moms, you get sued by yours
With your corny metaphors about drugs and crack whores
You're a sucker[/i]
Eminems Reply Verse's from "Quitter":
[Verse 1]
Knew you was jealous from the day that I met you
I upset you, cause I get respect I bet you (boy)
I'm even liked better by your niece and nephew (c'mon!)
And now you hate Fred because Lethal left you
Peckerwood mad cause his record went wood
No respect in the hood, fled to his neck of the woods
Got in touch with his roots, found the redneck in his blood
and said, "Heck, country western rap records are good!!"
So he picks the guitar up and he strums a few notes
He can't rap, or sing, but he wants to do both (haha)
Puts an album out and rules for part of the year
then Kid Rock and Limp Bizkit come from out of nowhere
It's the start of an era, rock rap's harder this year
No one's tryin to hear some fuckin old fart in a chair
sittin on stage, strummin acoustic guitar in your ear
So you start to get scared, sit back and spark an idea
Figure you can diss me to jump start your career
I punch you in your fuckin chest 'til your heart kicks in gear (bitch)
And fuck your underground buddy's nameless crew
Like I'ma say they names so they can be famous too
[Verse 2]
heart attack to stroke from the crack you smoke
to the rap you wrote, your fuckin answer back's a joke
And I'ma tell these motherfuckin fans the truth
The reason why you dissed me first and I answered you
You said I passed you in a lobby and I glanced at you
like I ain't notice you? BITCH, I had a show to do!
Like I'm supposed to be star-struck, come over to you
You better shut your fuckin mouth while you O-for-two
Back in ninety-four Limp opened the show for you
Rocked the crowd better and stole the whole show from you
Took your motherfuckin DJ and stole him too
So you fall in a slump and get all emotional
So now you sing and mix slang with blues and pluck strings
Confused as fuck cause now your music sucks dick
Mr. Mr. Ass Kisser to get accepted in rap
quicker but never last, and Everlast is a...(quitteerrr)
[Verse 3]
First off, fuck your songs and the shit you say
Diss my wife, but at least I got a bitch, you gay
You claim to be a Muslim but you Irish White
So fuck you fat boy, drop the mic, let's fight
Plus I punch you in the chest, weak hearts I rip
Whitey Ford, forty and white, lethargic ass dickhead
I keep 'em comin while you runnin out of breath
Steady duckin while I'm punchin at your chest, you need to rest
Dilated, go ask your people how I leave ya
with your three CD's, nobody sees, when they released
Evidence, don't fuck around with real MC's
who ain't ready for no underground beef, so fuck geeks
I let you faggots know it's on for life
but Everlast might die tonight, haha
Fat boy murdered on wax and killed
Fuck with me and take a heart pill, you know![/i]
Well u see where I'm coming from? Eminem Rips with his Multi Syllabul Rhymes, while Everlast comes with that Nursery Rhyming Nelly AA/BB rhyme patern shit...How can u honestly say Everlast ripped Eminem? U cant!...pEaCe
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Well. I liked "I Remember", but then Everlast Straightup Served him with Whitey's Revenge or whatever. Everything he said was 100% true, and that stuff about Em's kid, and his wife was dead on, hardcore, don't wanna trip on this man rhymes. That line about sending him photos of him chillin' in his crib was a diss from HELL, that's very creative, in my opinion.
Then, Em came back with "Quitter" which was probably even better, even though Em didn't have anything worthwhile to say, he had so much energy in it, it was a good diss. In real life? Everlast would KILL eminem... he'd break his neck.
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Well. I liked "I Remember", but then Everlast Straightup Served him with Whitey's Revenge or whatever. Everything he said was 100% true, and that stuff about Em's kid, and his wife was dead on, hardcore, don't wanna trip on this man rhymes. That line about sending him photos of him chillin' in his crib was a diss from HELL, that's very creative, in my opinion.
Then, Em came back with "Quitter" which was probably even better, even though Em didn't have anything worthwhile to say, he had so much energy in it, it was a good diss. In real life? Everlast would KILL eminem... he'd break his neck.
word,i agree 100% on what you said bout whiteys revenge,and bout everlast would kill eminem in a fight lol
and to nik,how can you say a diss thats 90% bullshit is better than a diss thats 100% true?
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WHITEYS REVENGE, was fucking raw.. considering how whitey is and his lyrical ability, it was tite and the way he flowed to the beat, but QUITTER just annilhated him... but everlast came back raw and he would beat eminem's ass, but eminem came out on top with quitter..
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word,i agree 100% on what you said bout whiteys revenge,and bout everlast would kill eminem in a fight lol
and to nik,how can you say a diss thats 90% bullshit is better than a diss thats 100% true?
Just cuz your an Everlast fan, doesnt mean that what Eminem says is bullshit...I can pick a lot of lines from the Everlasts diss that are 100% false...Lyricaly, Eminem demolished Everlast...I coulda' wrote Everlasts rhyme in 5 mins or less...Eminem just comes with that raw multi-syllabul rhyme pattern...Everlast was demolished... even Trauma said that "quitter" was better, after praisng Everlast on "Whiteys Revenge"...Everlast is fat, so he'd probably beat Eminem up in a fight, but I think Eminem has a lot more confidence than Everlast, which is hella important...PeAcE
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I honestly think Whiteys Revenge was better. Then Em replies with a Hitemup remake? Come on that was pretty weak. He needed his boys to back him.
Y'all should peep Babylon Feeling feat. Santana. Tight song.
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I honestly think Whiteys Revenge was better. Then Em replies with a Hitemup remake? Come on that was pretty weak. He needed his boys to back him.
Y'all should peep Babylon Feeling feat. Santana. Tight song.
U really feel that simplistic "Dick/Bitch" rhyme structure huh?
lemme give u an example....
"You're just a big tough guy, tryin' to act hard/
But you won't walk a lobby without your bodyguard/"
"Gaurd" and "Hard", how fuckin hard is that to rhyme? He needs to expand his rhyme structure...PeACE
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i think everlast is a hard spitter...hes not top notch lyrically but he came at eminem with all he had...held his own...though he never came back at dj quik(u cant fuck witta nigga!!!!)....
He didn't come back after that, but he hit Quik first with that bullshit from "Shamrocks & Shenanigans (Remix)". Weak dis, he lost in that short beef for sure.
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Everlast is tight though. I got his album Eat at Whitrys and I'm impressed.
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U really feel that simplistic "Dick/Bitch" rhyme structure huh?
lemme give u an example....
"You're just a big tough guy, tryin' to act hard/
But you won't walk a lobby without your bodyguard/"
"Gaurd" and "Hard", how fuckin hard is that to rhyme? He needs to expand his rhyme structure...PeACE
Whitey's diss struck Eminem much harder than Em's diss.
After Whitey's Reply, Em went on a radio station and said that Whitey stuck too personal and that it really hurt him.
Than Whitey said that he was the victor since he shocked Eminem, "I shocked him, who the hell can say that?" ro something like that.
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It's a diss, not about rhyme structure. And Em for once got checked.