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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: Teddy Roosevelt on July 04, 2012, 05:42:42 PM
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An era ends in the desert and the Lakers finally get a real point guard. All in one surprise move.
The Phoenix Suns have reportedly agreed to sign-and-trade point guard Steve Nash to the Los Angeles Lakers for future draft picks, according to ESPN.com. Ken Berger of CBSSports.com has confirmed the details.
ESPN.com reports that Nash will receive a 3-year contract worth more than $25 million.
The Arizona Republic reports the Suns will receive the Lakers' first round picks in both 2013 and 2015 while also receiving second-round picks in 2013 and 2014.
The Lakers hold a $8.9 million trade exception created when they traded forward Lamar Odom to the Dallas Mavericks in December 2011. Nash presumably slides into that exception, Berger reports, allowing the Lakers to receive Nash without sending back salary in return.
The agreement emerged on Wednesday after rumors in recent days linked Nash as a possible sign-and-trade target for the New York Knicks. The Toronto Raptors also reportedly offered Nash a 3-year contract worth $36 million.
Nash, 38, spent the last seven seasons with the Suns, becoming the face of a franchise and a fan favorite. He averaged 12.5 points and 10.7 assists in 2011-12 and was named to the 2012 All-Star team, his eighth selection. He was twice named NBA MVP during his time with the Suns.
The deal cannot be made official until July 11, once the NBA's 10-day free agency moratorium is complete.
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lmao
bye bye to kobe ever getting that 6th ring to tie MJ
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Admit it, you wanted him to join the Celtics or Heat.
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Admit it, you wanted him to join the Celtics or Heat.
why would I want him to take minutes away from RONDO? ::)
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Admit it, you wanted him to join the Celtics or Heat.
why would I want him to take minutes away from RONDO? ::)
Backup. Keep both of them fresh.
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lmao
bye bye to kobe ever getting that 6th ring to tie MJ
Lol you say that like they were going to win and now stand no chance because of Nash.
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lmao
bye bye to kobe ever getting that 6th ring to tie MJ
Lol you say that like they were going to win and now stand no chance because of Nash.
they'd have a slim chance with Kobe, Gasol and Howard
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lmao
bye bye to kobe ever getting that 6th ring to tie MJ
Lol you say that like they were going to win and now stand no chance because of Nash.
they'd have a slim chance with Kobe, Gasol and Howard
Lakers ain't done. They still gotta trade Gasol to the Wolves, Rockets, Hawks or 76ers. They'll get a PF who won't disappear in the playoffs and just need to sign a SF with the mini-MLE.
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lmao
bye bye to kobe ever getting that 6th ring to tie MJ
Lol you say that like they were going to win and now stand no chance because of Nash.
they'd have a slim chance with Kobe, Gasol and Howard
Lakers ain't done. They still gotta trade Gasol to the Wolves, Rockets, Hawks or 76ers. They'll get a PF who won't disappear in the playoffs and just need to sign a SF with the mini-MLE.
Also comes down to Bynum figuring it out come playoff time.
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lmao
bye bye to kobe ever getting that 6th ring to tie MJ
Lol you say that like they were going to win and now stand no chance because of Nash.
they'd have a slim chance with Kobe, Gasol and Howard
Lakers ain't done. They still gotta trade Gasol to the Wolves, Rockets, Hawks or 76ers. They'll get a PF who won't disappear in the playoffs and just need to sign a SF with the mini-MLE.
Also comes down to Bynum figuring it out come playoff time.
I'm assuming that Bynum gets traded for Howard, but that's not a sure thing.
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Watch Kobe's efficiency improve immensely. Nash is Suspect on defense but a god on offense. Fuck I hate the Yankees of the NBA! Oh well they always find a way.
NIK, u approve of this move? Kobe did lobby for him to join lakers after all
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Watch Kobe's efficiency improve immensely. Nash is Suspect on defense but a god on offense. Fuck I hate the Yankees of the NBA! Oh well they always find a way.
NIK, u approve of this move? Kobe did lobby for him to join lakers after all
of course i approve of this, it's steve nash...now, if we trade pau gasol for josh smith, we on. we need some younger legs+athleticism.
nash aint the best on d, so we'll need an iman shumpert type player off the bench, who can d up the elite point guards. goudelock showed glimpses of good defense, but i dunno if he's ready to become that. other than that, this is gunna be a great season for the Lakers and especially Kobe, as he will do his best to get Nash that first ring. and like u said, efficiency will improve immensely, as this is the first time Kobe's played with a legit point guard.
roster as of now...
PG Steve Nash..Steve Blake/Darius Johnson-Odom
SG Kobe Bryant..Andrew Goudelock/Darius Morris
SF Ron Artest..Matt Barnes/Devin Ebanks
PF Pau Gasol...Josh McRoberts/Christian Eyenga
C Andrew Bynum...Robert Sacre
looks better
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We still need a small forward, and to ship gasol out.
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roster as of now...
PG Steve Nash..Steve Blake/Darius Johnson-Odom
SG Kobe Bryant..Andrew Goudelock/Darius Morris
SF Ron Artest..Matt Barnes/Devin Ebanks
PF Pau Gasol...Josh McRoberts/Christian Eyenga
C Andrew Bynum...Robert Sacre
looks better
The bench is terrible.
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piss poor bench and four aging starters = no playoff success
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piss poor bench and four aging starters = no playoff success
Kobe and Nash are not your every day "aging starters"...I agree, though. we do need some added youth and to strengthen our bench, but i have a feeling this is not the last move were gunna see this offseason.
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Great addition , Grant Hill likely to follow ... now keeping Pau and trading Drew for the diva makes more sense
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That's a big time move. I'm surprised he didn't wind up in New York. Nash was second in assists & had nobody to pass the ball too.
But it could just be me & naturally I can't see every Laker game, but it feels like Kobe is a better scorer when he has the ball, creating for himself opposed to being a spot up shooter. So I don't think it'll help Kobe that much. But certainly helps everyone else out more. & Sessions off the bench, right? Cold.
Now Dwight would be huge because he'd be way more effective in the pick & roll than Bynum would be. It'd be like the '06 Suns all over again.
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Good move. But what Lakers really need to do is trade Pau. Can they afford another terrible post season from the big man ? I don't think so.
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nash is a great player .. but i think the lakers and the heat are the only two teams in the NBA who don't need a regular PG. they need someone who can guard PG's on defense, but when it comes to offense the lakers work better with Kobe running the floor and the same for LeBron on the heat
time will tell how it all works out
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nash is a great player .. but i think the lakers and the heat are the only two teams in the NBA who don't need a regular PG. they need someone who can guard PG's on defense, but when it comes to offense the lakers work better with Kobe running the floor and the same for LeBron on the heat
time will tell how it all works out
Turning an aging Kobe into a pure scorer is the best thing which could happen to the Lakers .... Kobe isn't in his prime anymore , he can't both handle the ball handling duties and scoring anymore ... we all saw how it worked last year ...
Sure he will have to adapt but he's a good cutter and shooter coming off screens ..
Best thing Nash will bring is his abilities to create easy baskets ... we had to work every hard for EVERY single basket last season , no easy points
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lakers need someone who can break someone down off the dribble, at this point kobes just a jump shooter in his career. Nash has no defense, Thunder are going to once again cum in the lakers hair, speedy pg's are the lakers weakness j.j. barea, russel westbrook they need someone who can stay in front or atleast guide pg's to the help d. D fish is better at Playing D than steve nash lol
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nash is a great player .. but i think the lakers and the heat are the only two teams in the NBA who don't need a regular PG. they need someone who can guard PG's on defense, but when it comes to offense the lakers work better with Kobe running the floor and the same for LeBron on the heat
time will tell how it all works out
Turning an aging Kobe into a pure scorer is the best thing which could happen to the Lakers .... Kobe isn't in his prime anymore , he can't both handle the ball handling duties and scoring anymore ... we all saw how it worked last year ...
Sure he will have to adapt but he's a good cutter and shooter coming off screens ..
Best thing Nash will bring is his abilities to create easy baskets ... we had to work every hard for EVERY single basket last season , no easy points
Agreed, Kobe is a good passer when he wants to be but is obviously much more of a scorer. Having a guy that can get easy baskets for the bigs is huge.
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Getting Steve Nash is a steal for the Lakers
Like anyone in this town who has ever bitten his knuckles purple at the sight of that pale little floppy-haired guy from Phoenix, I've seen Steve Nash twist and stretch and seriously wrinkle some Lakers uniforms.
But now he's going to actually wear one?
I'm writing this on the night of July 4, but the blasts and sparkles outside my office window can't compare to the cheery bombs bouncing through the pulse of Lakers fans, who might need until dawn's early light to believe this.
A team with a gaping vacancy at point guard just smothered it with a future Hall of Fame point guard. A team that spent last season boring the entertainment capital just acquired one of basketball's best showmen. Naptime just took three quick dribbles toward again becoming Showtime.
Steve Nash is a Laker and, man, is this going to be fun.
Like one of those no-look moves made famous by the man himself, Nash's acquisition Wednesday is stunningly spectacular from a variety of angles.
It allows the Lakers to run the sort of chaotic, choreographed offense that can hang with the turbos from Oklahoma City and San Antonio. It takes the pressure off Kobe Bryant during crunch times that are increasingly crunching him.
And, oh yes, it gives the Lakers the sort of balanced attack that would be attractive to another potential acquisition who was worried about Bryant's ball hogging. No, Steve Nash can't play defense, but that won't matter so much if his presence leads to the acquisition of Dwight Howard, who must surely see that the Lakers are now his best chance for a ring.
The Lakers can and should still acquire Howard too, because Nash stunningly cost them little. They sent Phoenix some draft picks, which is no big deal right now considering the Lakers haven't had a first-round pick since 2007 and have won two titles since then.
They also sent Phoenix the trade exception they acquired in the dumping of Lamar Odom, which leads me to write something as nutty as Nash leading a fastbreak.
Good job, Jimmy Buss. Even if you were initially just trying to save money by trading Odom, you have proved everyone wrong by essentially trading him for Nash.
At first blush, it's amazing that Phoenix would actually allow Nash to negotiate a trade with perhaps the Suns' rival. But then again, if Nash had gone to the Toronto Raptors or the New York Knicks as a free agent, the Suns would have received nothing.
It was a smart deal for Phoenix, an amazing steal for the Lakers, and the coolest of moves for Nash, whose three-year, $27-million Lakers deal is nearly $10 million less than he could have received elsewhere. He told the Suns he wanted to remain near his three children in Phoenix. And he's clearly telling the Lakers that, after spending 16 years in the league without a single appearance in the NBA Finals, he wants desperately to win.
At age 38, is he still spry enough to win? Well, he's not Chris Paul anymore, but he's still got plenty of Steve Nash. He led the league in assists in five of the last eight seasons. And last season, while he averaged only 13 points, his 53% shooting was the second-best percentage of his career.
He's not going to dominate games like he did several years ago in consecutive postseasons against the Lakers. But he can still steer and steady games like few others.
His biggest shortcoming remains that he plays defense like those guys in Spain wave those red capes. While the Lakers now have a brand-new offense, they still don't have anybody to guard Russell Westbrook or Tony Parker.
Mike Brown's defensive wizardry will now be tested, as well as Jimmy Buss' commitment. The Lakers cannot stop here. The Lakers cannot think that Steve Nash alone will bring them a championship. They have one big move left. They know what it must be.
For now, though, it's worth celebrating a trade so swift and strong and smart, not even David Stern could stop it.
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Nash's playoff track record is proven...guy can't get to the nba finals
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Nash's playoff track record is proven...guy can't get to the nba finals
cuz he's always been the best on his team...now that hes the 2nd best, watch that change.
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Nash's playoff track record is proven...guy can't get to the nba finals
Gasol couldn't win a playoff game before he switched teams. Now he has two rings.
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Nash's playoff track record is proven...guy can't get to the nba finals
Gasol couldn't win a playoff game before he switched teams. Now he has two rings.
was gasol a 2 time mvp at the end of his career when he joined the Lakers?
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Nash's playoff track record is proven...guy can't get to the nba finals
Gasol couldn't win a playoff game before he switched teams. Now he has two rings.
was gasol a 2 time mvp at the end of his career when he joined the Lakers?
whats ur point? nash is still putting up great numbers and is in top shape physically...he's a bruce lee type figure with his conditioning and percision. him at 38 is like most players at 28.
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^ It's also worth noting that his game never relied on athleticism to the same degree as most great players.
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^ It's also worth noting that his game never relied on athleticism to the same degree as most great players.
and his shooting accuracy is yet to subside... he's basically the same player he was 5 years ago.
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Amazing pickup for the Lakers
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Good job, Jimmy Buss. Even if you were initially just trying to save money by trading Odom, you have proved everyone wrong by essentially trading him for Nash.
Good Job Mitch.
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It's own now