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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: J Bananas on October 25, 2006, 05:48:11 PM
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for fucking clowns, sorry. It's bad enough that they can't deal with the insecurity of not knowing their origin, but they also have to take something as sacred and beautiful as spirituality and square it up so they can push it on everyone else like they are special or are somehow more enlightened than others. a big fuck you goes to all christians, jews and especially muslims for taking over peoples lives every year and feeding into humanities lowest common denominator. the terrible things that happen in this world no longer surprise me because i see how many dumb fuckin faggots and bitches feed into the magic fairy tales that supposedly make this world go around. everything is either a gift or a test from the magical god that is everything and blah blah blah....then you have these pussies that think its necessary to respect every religion he same way you aren't allowed to make fun of retarded people, like its some kind of crutch (think about that) that tie up others from doing the right thing out of "religious sensitivity". word to blood, the next person that tries to enforce their beliefs on me in a public or other venue, i am going to commit a "hate crime". im sick of it, hopefully they will be a muslim or christian too. that would be extra fun. so watch out bryan, if i ever see your kufi rockin blonde haired face in barnes and noble talking to some middle schoolers about alla's saving power, im gonna fuck you up, that goes for ever other motherfucker on dubcc who's ordinarily a likeable person i dont give a shit, you are going down!!!!!!!!!
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I hope everyone can agree that religion does more bad than good in the world.
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for fucking clowns, sorry. It's bad enough that they can't deal with the insecurity of not knowing their origin, but they also have to take something as sacred and beautiful as spirituality and square it up so they can push it on everyone else like they are special or are somehow more enlightened than others. a big fuck you goes to all christians, jews and especially muslims for taking over peoples lives every year and feeding into humanities lowest common denominator. the terrible things that happen in this world no longer surprise me because i see how many dumb fuckin faggots and bitches feed into the magic fairy tales that supposedly make this world go around. everything is either a gift or a test from the magical god that is everything and blah blah blah....then you have these pussies that think its necessary to respect every religion he same way you aren't allowed to make fun of retarded people, like its some kind of crutch (think about that) that tie up others from doing the right thing out of "religious sensitivity". word to blood, the next person that tries to enforce their beliefs on me in a public or other venue, i am going to commit a "hate crime". im sick of it, hopefully they will be a muslim or christian too. that would be extra fun. so watch out bryan, if i ever see your kufi rockin blonde haired face in barnes and noble talking to some middle schoolers about alla's saving power, im gonna fuck you up, that goes for ever other motherfucker on dubcc who's ordinarily a likeable person i dont give a shit, you are going down!!!!!!!!!
you need to play some socom my homie, be on the seal side, take some stress out. ;)
but yea, i understand what you are saying. for me, as long as person aint racists, or actually says thier religion is better than another ones, its all good.
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relgions is a shame. Not every country is capable of being secular though (like Saudi Arabia or Vatican City), but the countries that are secular (i.e. the West) should be kept secular, there is plenty of room on this earth for religious nuts to go without imposing their ignorance on the freedom lovers. So fuck Creationism in schools.
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However, religion may be a bitch but it is not directly responsible for the world of shit we have today. Saying that relgion is the 'cause of the world's problems today' is an over-simplification. But yall need over-simplifications, yall need moral clarity don't you? The 'terror' of today, in a huge part, is a result of orchestrated and carefullly cultivated beliefs by neo-conservatives carrying out the ideas of Leo Strauss, a US philosopher who recommended that good leaders establish myths to unite Americans, who otherwise would remain fragmented and selfish as a result of living in an individualistic capitalist society.
Watch 'The Power of Nightmares' from the BBC.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjL7rt8z2y0
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If shit like that bothers you than you have some problems man. I respect what other people believe. you could believe that leprechauns put us here, its your choice. Religion is a good thing when the principals and philosophies behind it are used. But todays churches are corrupt and have been throughout the ages manipulated for the purpose of greed and personal gain. Alot of things are added in the texts from leaders for that times society. If people in the early part of the society did not decide to look at sexual acts in a negative way than priests today would not be molesting little boys. Why would a created species have a sexual organ, when used gives you a enourmus amount of pleasure? That doesn't make any sense. If our creator thought it sex was bad than wouldn't hurt when we have sex? He would of made the nerves in our penises and vaginas numb correct? These type of things were added into the mix by early societies view.
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However, religion may be a bitch but it is not directly responsible for the world of shit we have today. Saying that relgion is the 'cause of the world's problems today' is an over-simplification. But yall need over-simplifications, yall need moral clarity don't you? The 'terror' of today, in a huge part, is a result of orchestrated and carefullly cultivated beliefs by neo-conservatives carrying out the ideas of Leo Strauss, a US philosopher who recommended that good leaders establish myths to unite Americans, who otherwise would remain fragmented and selfish as a result of living in an individualistic capitalist society.
Watch 'The Power of Nightmares' from the BBC.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjL7rt8z2y0
no i dont believe religion is the cause for all problems, but thats interesting that you said people need oversimplification, imo thats what religion has done to spirituality
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It's a difficult one to answer, religion is mostly full of good people who believe they are doing the right thing, however the elite in society have always used religion as a vehicle of oppression. I don't pretend to be a huge expert on the bible and have never read it fully but there are so many stories within the table where the underlying message is fighting oppression and yet religious followers have throughout the centuries and are continuing to be tricked into allowing themselves to be totally controlled. However that is not surprising when you consider that when christianity came to these shores it was very quickly corrupted by the lords and masters. However a secular society will not prevent the sick twisted sick lies, it's not going to mean that freedom's will stop being taken. Indeed the evangelical christians have been deceived into thinking that tyranny should be encouraged because it will further what they view as the end game. As a secularist myself sure some of these religious messages are disgusting and I totally agree that you should be completely free to criticise and attack religious people of course, for me personally I don't mind anyone that does not attempt to impose their views upon me. I really do believe that religion has been hijacked and I don't claim this is a recent occurence but for me by singling out religion you are only identifying a symptomn and not the underlying cause. Also props for the link YGZ I missed 2 parts to that documentary, so I will have to check out that link, I wasn't aware that being an aussie you would have found out about that BBC doc.
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However, religion may be a bitch but it is not directly responsible for the world of shit we have today. Saying that relgion is the 'cause of the world's problems today' is an over-simplification. But yall need over-simplifications, yall need moral clarity don't you? The 'terror' of today, in a huge part, is a result of orchestrated and carefullly cultivated beliefs by neo-conservatives carrying out the ideas of Leo Strauss, a US philosopher who recommended that good leaders establish myths to unite Americans, who otherwise would remain fragmented and selfish as a result of living in an individualistic capitalist society.
no i dont believe religion is the cause for all problems, but thats interesting that you said people need oversimplification, imo thats what religion has done to spirituality
word, usually beneath all the dogma, rituals and traditions, etc is the spiritualality or a good message. But people are stupid and can't comprehend that message without angles, stories and myths. Not that relgious culture is necessarily stupid, but it does shroud the underlying message.
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I am a lifelong christian and I believe in God and afterlife but as a person that has respected every other religion and has never pushed my religion and beliefs on anyone else, I find this thread very ignorant and offensive.
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^ignorant of what? the magical power of jesus?
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^ignorant of what? the magical power of jesus?
There ya go again
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I am a lifelong christian and I believe in God and afterlife but as a person that has respected every other religion and has never pushed my religion and beliefs on anyone else, I find this thread very ignorant and offensive.
sorry to see you feel that way. i find it to be the truth personally.
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I am a lifelong christian and I believe in God and afterlife but as a person that has respected every other religion and has never pushed my religion and beliefs on anyone else, I find this thread very ignorant and offensive.
sorry to see you feel that way. i find it to be the truth personally.
you guys arent reading WHAT I WROTE. I am a christian that respects EVERYONE'S BELIEFS AND RELIGION! So when I dont get that same respect back, yes I feel offended. The ignorance in this therad is amazing.
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And also J Bananas is a fuckin piece of shit moron who is just mad at life because he isnt liked by anyone, and that is due to the fact that he doesnt respect anyone else, Bananas is a piece of shit.
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thats not the christian way my brother
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plus i think if you knew me in real life im a pretty nice guy and am well liked. you gotta be able to appreciate the internet as an avenue for our bullshit
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Don't flip the script. I had NO PROBLEM with u whatsoever, until u started popping into threads giving ur little subliminal shots at me and then this thread just topped it off. The disrespect you showed me is unforgivable, respect other peoples opinions and views, especially when they respect yours.
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plus i think if you knew me in real life im a pretty nice guy and am well liked. you gotta be able to appreciate the internet as an avenue for our bullshit
Like I said, I had no problem w/ u at all, in fact u were one of my favorite posters aswell. But u are spitting all over my beliefs and I dont like it. Are there a bunch of useless, moronic christians, HELL YES! There are bad seeds w/ every religion but to disrespect the whole religion in general upset me
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So, what in history has provided a utopian, or even just a more peaceful enviroment? I think we'd be even worse off without religion, dudes got it right in here that were talking about it was the abuse of religion that brought about terrible shit. I know if I thought there were no consequences to my actions i'd do all kinds of shit just for kicks.
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Another reason why religion is bad: people can't take it when their belief is criticized or questioned. So they become angry that someone would actually think outside of the box and not be a sheep.
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plus i think if you knew me in real life im a pretty nice guy and am well liked. you gotta be able to appreciate the internet as an avenue for our bullshit
Like I said, I had no problem w/ u at all, in fact u were one of my favorite posters aswell. But u are spitting all over my beliefs and I dont like it. Are there a bunch of useless, moronic christians, HELL YES! There are bad seeds w/ every religion but to disrespect the whole religion in general upset me
chyea i feel ya. i was just mad like a little girl without a pony that day
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Another reason why religion is bad: people can't take it when their belief is criticized or questioned. So they become angry that someone would actually think outside of the box and not be a sheep.
a shot from Sikotic to Spice :nawty:
people saying "Fuck Christians" is not criticizing or questioning the religion, it is blatent disrespect.
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So, what in history has provided a utopian, or even just a more peaceful enviroment? I think we'd be even worse off without religion, dudes got it right in here that were talking about it was the abuse of religion that brought about terrible shit. I know if I thought there were no consequences to my actions i'd do all kinds of shit just for kicks.
1. you can't abuse something that doesn't exist
2. if you're only not doing bad stuff because you think you go to hell, then I'd send you to hell, if I was God, that is
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Any religion trying to bring upon the end times is stupid. I am absolutly sure that there WILL be a armageddon. People are trying to bring upon prophecy and they will get there wish because most of them begging for it are the most powerful people in the world. If you think our society is going to live for hundreds of years the way it is you are blind my friend. I am an athiest, but I believe that we were indeed created but not by appearing magically.
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So, what in history has provided a utopian, or even just a more peaceful enviroment? I think we'd be even worse off without religion, dudes got it right in here that were talking about it was the abuse of religion that brought about terrible shit. I know if I thought there were no consequences to my actions i'd do all kinds of shit just for kicks.
1. you can't abuse something that doesn't exist
2. if you're only not doing bad stuff because you think you go to hell, then I'd send you to hell, if I was God, that is
If people beleive it does exist, you sure can abuse it my friend. Remember Hitler? Oh and Stalin was an atheist, how good of a man was he for his countrymen? America was founded by a bunch of Atheists too, seen america lately? Has our country's religious been abused perhaps? I'm not trying to convert motherfuckers, I just don't understand all the hate on religion when all the bad shit thats gone on was from lunatics that cant read and comprehend well enough. In terms of shit destroying the world, lets talk about money, territory, egos, hunger and the list goes on. But i'm not saying religion hasn't fucked shit up, it has, but back to my first point, only when it's abused. I've managed to stay a good person regardless of my religion. And yup if there is no god to me theres no reason to live any way other than on the top, which would lead me to rob banks, murder for fun(and profit), and run for office. So be happy ignorant folk like me have our mind's controlled by the jews.
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You gotta be a dumbass if you think you'd murder for fun if you weren't religious.
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as well as for profit.
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Bullshit. Argueably the most pathetic attempt to make religion look good.
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uhhh, that's actually my argument against the bullshit you said, which was trying to show that religion isn't ALL BAD, and that a lack of religion doesnt produce everything good. And i guess i wouldn't enjoy the murder(unless I hated the fucker) but It sure wouldn't get to my conscience.
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I've got no real problem with religion for the most part, but when it gets mixed up with politics in my opinion it gets dangerous. Granted, a lot of our moral systems are based on religious morals, but for the most part those morals are universal and apply to every major religion. To me, it gets to be problematic when you have politicians declaring themselves candidates of God and their party the party of God. That's just taking it too far, and we're seeing it more and more in particular from some parts of the Republican party. Not all of them, but there are a few for sure that feel that way; Dick DeVos, Jeb Bush, Katherine Harris, and a bunch more. Interesting article on the whole thing in Rolling Stone a bit ago: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/7235393/the_crusaders/
Anyway, yeah, to me that's taking it too far.
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If shit like that bothers you than you have some problems man. I respect what other people believe. you could believe that leprechauns put us here, its your choice. Religion is a good thing when the principals and philosophies behind it are used. But todays churches are corrupt and have been throughout the ages manipulated for the purpose of greed and personal gain. Alot of things are added in the texts from leaders for that times society. If people in the early part of the society did not decide to look at sexual acts in a negative way than priests today would not be molesting little boys. Why would a created species have a sexual organ, when used gives you a enourmus amount of pleasure? That doesn't make any sense. If our creator thought it sex was bad than wouldn't hurt when we have sex? He would of made the nerves in our penises and vaginas numb correct? These type of things were added into the mix by early societies view.
Just to clarify God allows you to have sex but only with one person (your wife) or your husband (if you are a female). you can have sex as much as you want when your married. The reason why it is only one person that you are allowed to have sex with is because having sex with more than one person messes with your soul (you become soul-tied to whoever you sleep with) and god doesnt want that for you cuz "your body is your Temple"
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Another reason why religion is bad: people can't take it when their belief is criticized or questioned. So they become angry that someone would actually think outside of the box and not be a sheep.
a shot from Sikotic to Spice :nawty:
people saying "Fuck Christians" is not criticizing or questioning the religion, it is blatent disrespect.
That wasn't a shot towards you, but many people react the way you did to Banana's thread when you question certain things about religion or God. I'm a Christian myself, grew up among Christians my entire life. Whenever I would even question some concept of Christianity, I was told to either shut up or "have more faith". One extreme case I was told I was going to hell for qustioning something lol.
Bananas didn't say anything disrespectful towards any religion if you read through the language and see his point. He's saying religion has done a lot of bad and continues to fuck things up. That's pretty much undeniable if you look at the world today.
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Another reason why religion is bad: people can't take it when their belief is criticized or questioned. So they become angry that someone would actually think outside of the box and not be a sheep.
a shot from Sikotic to Spice :nawty:
people saying "Fuck Christians" is not criticizing or questioning the religion, it is blatent disrespect.
That wasn't a shot towards you, but many people react the way you did to Banana's thread when you question certain things about religion or God. I'm a Christian myself, grew up among Christians my entire life. Whenever I would even question some concept of Christianity, I was told to either shut up or "have more faith". One extreme case I was told I was going to hell for qustioning something lol.
Bananas didn't say anything disrespectful towards any religion if you read through the language and see his point. He's saying religion has done a lot of bad and continues to fuck things up. That's pretty much undeniable if you look at the world today.
chuuch.
lets not get all butt-hurt now, spice.
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Another reason why religion is bad: people can't take it when their belief is criticized or questioned. So they become angry that someone would actually think outside of the box and not be a sheep.
a shot from Sikotic to Spice :nawty:
people saying "Fuck Christians" is not criticizing or questioning the religion, it is blatent disrespect.
That wasn't a shot towards you, but many people react the way you did to Banana's thread when you question certain things about religion or God. I'm a Christian myself, grew up among Christians my entire life. Whenever I would even question some concept of Christianity, I was told to either shut up or "have more faith". One extreme case I was told I was going to hell for qustioning something lol.
Bananas didn't say anything disrespectful towards any religion if you read through the language and see his point. He's saying religion has done a lot of bad and continues to fuck things up. That's pretty much undeniable if you look at the world today.
regarding to colored quoted...
it's okay to question your faith..because you have to find the truth..facts...so in the future, you know what to say if you gotta defend chrisitan..
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Another reason why religion is bad: people can't take it when their belief is criticized or questioned. So they become angry that someone would actually think outside of the box and not be a sheep.
a shot from Sikotic to Spice :nawty:
people saying "Fuck Christians" is not criticizing or questioning the religion, it is blatent disrespect.
That wasn't a shot towards you, but many people react the way you did to Banana's thread when you question certain things about religion or God. I'm a Christian myself, grew up among Christians my entire life. Whenever I would even question some concept of Christianity, I was told to either shut up or "have more faith". One extreme case I was told I was going to hell for qustioning something lol.
Bananas didn't say anything disrespectful towards any religion if you read through the language and see his point. He's saying religion has done a lot of bad and continues to fuck things up. That's pretty much undeniable if you look at the world today.
regarding to colored quoted...
it's okay to question your faith..because you have to find the truth..facts...so in the future, you know what to say if you gotta defend chrisitan..
Oh, I've said it. But you know what response I've gotten from that 9 times outta 10?
"Sometimes you just can't understand godly things. You just have to believe"
It's one giant fuckin' cop-out that never ends.
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Another reason why religion is bad: people can't take it when their belief is criticized or questioned. So they become angry that someone would actually think outside of the box and not be a sheep.
a shot from Sikotic to Spice :nawty:
people saying "Fuck Christians" is not criticizing or questioning the religion, it is blatent disrespect.
That wasn't a shot towards you, but many people react the way you did to Banana's thread when you question certain things about religion or God. I'm a Christian myself, grew up among Christians my entire life. Whenever I would even question some concept of Christianity, I was told to either shut up or "have more faith". One extreme case I was told I was going to hell for qustioning something lol.
Bananas didn't say anything disrespectful towards any religion if you read through the language and see his point. He's saying religion has done a lot of bad and continues to fuck things up. That's pretty much undeniable if you look at the world today.
All is good SIK. Imo Bananas was kind of disrespectful but I should of controlled my temper but me and Bananas are cool. And believe me man as a lifelong christian myself I know exactly where you are coming from. I HATE when real religious people try and shove their beliefs down other peoples throat and I hate it when overly religious people jump all over peoples opinions just cause it differs from their own. Believe me I know what you are saying and I struggle with my beliefs and question my religion all the time. When I see horrible things happen to innocent people and when I read about all the cruel, insane, unfair things that go on in the world I definitely struggle and question my beliefs a lil bit. Its just I respect everyone's religions and beliefs so I get a lil upset when I am not treated the same, but I can see where you are coming from no doubt.
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Another reason why religion is bad: people can't take it when their belief is criticized or questioned. So they become angry that someone would actually think outside of the box and not be a sheep.
a shot from Sikotic to Spice :nawty:
people saying "Fuck Christians" is not criticizing or questioning the religion, it is blatent disrespect.
That wasn't a shot towards you, but many people react the way you did to Banana's thread when you question certain things about religion or God. I'm a Christian myself, grew up among Christians my entire life. Whenever I would even question some concept of Christianity, I was told to either shut up or "have more faith". One extreme case I was told I was going to hell for qustioning something lol.
Bananas didn't say anything disrespectful towards any religion if you read through the language and see his point. He's saying religion has done a lot of bad and continues to fuck things up. That's pretty much undeniable if you look at the world today.
regarding to colored quoted...
it's okay to question your faith..because you have to find the truth..facts...so in the future, you know what to say if you gotta defend chrisitan..
Oh, I've said it. But you know what response I've gotten from that 9 times outta 10?
"Sometimes you just can't understand godly things. You just have to believe"
It's one giant fuckin' cop-out that never ends.
yeah..i hear ya... still though...you keep on fighting for it...with facts....and faith. There's some truth in what they said about..just believe...but they have to believe with facts and some concept of history..but ya doing good...keep at it.
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There's some truth in what they said about..just believe...but they have to believe with facts and some concept of history..but ya doing good...keep at it.
I agree with that 100%.