West Coast Connection Forum
DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Darkwing Duck (The Reincarnation) on January 19, 2011, 04:34:35 PM
-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4E9RAd8t1U
-
entertaining video .......big dog.........but I dont agree with what the dude was saying....cause snoop is an entertainer ....so he has to show up to whatever gig is paying...if that means dancing with gummi bears ....then that is what you get.....
-
entertaining video .......big dog.........but I dont agree with what the dude was saying....cause snoop is an entertainer ....so he has to show up to whatever gig is paying...if that means dancing with gummi bears ....then that is what you get.....
He's not saying Snoop isn't an entertainer, he is saying he is a shitty one. If you were around in 92 when Snoop first came on the scene, youre lying if you don't think all this shit he is doin now is corny and wack as hell.
-
entertaining video .......big dog.........but I dont agree with what the dude was saying....cause snoop is an entertainer ....so he has to show up to whatever gig is paying...if that means dancing with gummi bears ....then that is what you get.....
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
-
i don't mind him playin his lil roles wherever, what bothers me is, it seems to have a reflection on his music, and that's bad. and as far for the guest appereances; i don't even think it's about the selection, it's about how he's going in, and that's just generic. but yeah, dancin with gummybears is not a good look lol...
-
entertaining video .......big dog.........but I dont agree with what the dude was saying....cause snoop is an entertainer ....so he has to show up to whatever gig is paying...if that means dancing with gummi bears ....then that is what you get.....
He's not saying Snoop isn't an entertainer, he is saying he is a shitty one. If you were around in 92 when Snoop first came on the scene, youre lying if you don't think all this shit he is doin now is corny and wack as hell.
-
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_zLznuQOQgo4/TDIUTWsmUsI/AAAAAAAAF54/wDIBTlnFxo4/s1600/snopdog+1.JPG)
""respect my gangsta, cuzz..
long beach 21st crip.
thats on the set""
-
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_zLznuQOQgo4/TDIUTWsmUsI/AAAAAAAAF54/wDIBTlnFxo4/s1600/snopdog+1.JPG)
""respect my gangsta, cuzz..
long beach 21st crip.
thats on the set""
wtf, what video is that from? :D
-
It's from Kate Perr's California Gurls video. He really reps the colors there! ;)
-
the only reason snoop was the snoop of '92 was cause that was what was paying.....If there was no Dre and snoop met some spice girls who wanted him to dance around with some Gummy bears.....do you think he would have turned that down cause it wasn't too cool for the ogs in the hood? he would have taken whatever gig that was paying the most at the time.
-
entertaining video .......big dog.........but I dont agree with what the dude was saying....cause snoop is an entertainer ....so he has to show up to whatever gig is paying...if that means dancing with gummi bears ....then that is what you get.....
He's not saying Snoop isn't an entertainer, he is saying he is a shitty one. If you were around in 92 when Snoop first came on the scene, youre lying if you don't think all this shit he is doin now is corny and wack as hell.
in fact it isn't!
he has developed from a plain n ordinary gangsta rapper to a media entertainer. he is not just "one of these rappers" anymore, he became an icon in west coast rap and a face for black entertainment world wide. He did so many things over the last years and even though his music, but especially flow and voice took a little decrease withtin the last years (not talking about his latest song which I like for the most part) he always repped where he was from and tried to help other artists. And you can't blame him for that. It's even okay that he is doing songs with Katy Perry etc.. Seriously: wouldn't you?? this track gained him a grammy nomination and he was all over the radio again, plus it's not too bad for a summer pop track. and katy looks hella hot in the video, don't argue.
I don't say you have to like everything he does. I don't like every particular thing either, but I respect what he's doing, that he found a way to market himself as some kind of brand. He is doing what the fuck he wants to and you can see him having fun. I mean all this TV show stuff, commercials, events, merchandize and what not... this is above of what 99 out of 100 rappers can show. I think people should stop hating on shit like that and let him do what he wants to, I think there is a lot of entertainment in what he is doing. I for my part think, he is not taking himself too seriously in the Katy Perry vid for example, or in the new Gorillaz video or whatever. He is not tryng to act like he is so tough and that's the cool part, that would look ridicolous to me after all these years. But you can see him enjoying what he's doing and trying to make the best out of it, trying to get a vibe. And I like that. People always say some artist should expand a lil more, try new shit not always the same. But when they actually do, they get hated on. I think that's lame and jealous. I think tracks like "My Medicine" where he actually collaborates with some real musicians and tries to do something new makes him more of a good artists than trying to claim rollin 20 crips for the 100th time and to say he's a gang banger and still lives in the hood all over a new album. I couldn't take that seriously. It's ok for single tracks like "Protocol" but I don't need a "I try to be gangsta" album. I always liked his diversity on the albums.
I dunno... most probably I'll get hate for this even though this is just my thoughts and the way I see it and I don't try to attack anyone with that. Just trying to make y'all see it from a different perspective.
-
that's a bit far fetched but you're not too far from the reality... Snoop has always been into the oldies, before he was Snoop Dogg he was called Snoop Rock / Silky Slim and was very much influenced by the 70's... Suge moulded him according to the trend of the day which was gangsta rap, he dressed him, told him to grow braids... if you look at pre-death row snoop dogg pics, you'll see that he was either bald or had pimp style perms, with a hat and stuff... i'm not saying Snoop's culture is not gangsta because it obviously was but the creative direction he was taking was the one he later took with projects such as the doggystyle all stars, not the one he eventually got known for
now the video is hilarious but i don't agree with dude. why acting hard if you're not hard ? even if you're hard, acting hard all the time will make you look like a retard more than anything... Snoop got to the point where he's paid his dues... everybody knows he's a friendly cat who can get down and do stuff with everyone, from The Comrads to some russian rapper... he still gets respect from most in the industry. I think he's the only one who can pull it off and get away with it. I mean Snoop's prime is well passed but he's still somehow relevant... instead of trying to get back to his doggystyle days he's just doing him... which is acting a fool and doing the hell he wants... and get paid. he was in the forbes 2010 top ten with 10 mil and MIW only sold like 300,000. don't get me wrong i dont really care for his music but at least it's fresh, spontaneous, and sometimes innovative, even if inconsistent... i think he's being real and even if doesn't sound as good as in the 90's, i consider it realer than some rappers that try to repeat the same formula they used in the 90's over and over again and who in the end not only sound outdated but also fake in a way. that's why I don't fuck with Kush (snoop included), no matter how good it is from a musical standpoint, but it's forced and lacks spontaneity... that's why i've never been a big fan of Dre (the rapper and the character, not the producer)... dude's never been spontaneous, always played the role of the hard guy in his lyrics when according to everybody he was a soft-spoken, mild-mannered type of guy... everything in his raps and body-language lacked sincerity (it makes sense since he isnt writing his lyrics)... just check 2pac's interview with bill bellamy and dre, now compare dre to 2pac...
edit : Si-Chiggedy, C/S 100% your post, well said!
-
I liked what Snoop said in a Dubcnn interview in like 2006 (?), that he makes music, that he like, it may not hit your taste, but he doesnt do it strictly for you..
i totally agree with that, if he really loves what hes doin, loves music, he should do what he feel.. but hearin his latest music, damn.. he went too far
-
don't get me wrong i dont really care for his music but at least it's fresh, spontaneous, and sometimes innovative
oh come on, you've got to be joking.
-
I liked what Snoop said in a Dubcnn interview in like 2006 (?), that he makes music, that he like, it may not hit your taste, but he doesnt do it strictly for you..
i totally agree with that, if he really loves what hes doin, loves music, he should do what he feel..
Preach. And I been listening a hella lot of pop lately with my Girl at home and Snoops new stuff is as good or better than the majority of artists stuff out there.
Snoop put out better Albums than Usher, Lady Gaga, Timbaland and even the Black Eyed Peas album 'The E.N.D.' had some banging singles but the album was weak as dishwater.
Hate or love it Snoops an all round performer/entertainer...if you don't want to follow his commercial stuff stick to his stuff that's in-house produced or collabos with other Rappers. And that's nuthin new, been that way since 2000 or before.
-
all of his albums have been commercial, that's not the problem.
-
all of his albums have been commercial, that's not the problem.
Ok. I meant from when he started appearing on R&B/Pop albums.
-
One thing cought my attention.. Snoop announced new album in like December (not sure), and the date is set to March.. that gives you like 3-4 months (including promotion etc.).. Snoop seems really busy, hes all arround on TV, into many organizations and all that.. so lot of his time goes for that, i doubt that hes in studio every day, but even if so, he cant spend much time in there daily makin music..
all that together doesnt give him much time for making the album..
I may be wrong, but Snoop seems to me like he feels too self confident, and not seek that much anymore.. that may be the reason of his music bein so neuter
-
don't get me wrong i dont really care for his music but at least it's fresh, spontaneous, and sometimes innovative
oh come on, you've got to be joking.
lol, that's what I think, a lot of stuffs are wack/weak, but a lot of stuffs is actually fresh too, like Snoop tries a lot of different things, he uses different producers that bring different things to the table. for example, him fucking with Terrace, Teddy Riley, Quik, Soopafly. They're all great producers with different styles, his collaborations with all of them produced music that was sometimes not very good, or weird (the songs with teddy riley) but at least it was new and fresh. His stuff with the Neptunes... I wasn't a fan of that period but I must admit that Snoop added his own twist to something, he didn't follow the hype or anything. when from da chuuuch to tha palace came out, a lot of people thought it was wack, i thought this was actually dope because snoop had the leverage to not stick to any formula and came up with something cool. it wasn't on the same level as the eastsidaz albums which are great albums from the classic snoop but still it was original.
when i say spontaneous, that's one thing you can't take away from snoop. even though he's doing too much sometimes. sometimes he comes wack on the beat too, with hackneyed lyrics but i think over the years he's managed to stay spontaneous.
I'm not even a fan of snoop, he was the one who introduced me to gangsta rap but i don't think he's in my top 5. but dude is a multi-faceted character (to me boss's life video with the many snoops exemplifies this) and i think he's one of the realest to do it. even-though he's one egotistic, sometimes playa-hating dude he gets respect from everybody, and that's saying a lot.
I may be wrong, but Snoop seems to me like he feels too self confident, and not seek that much anymore.. that may be the reason of his music bein so neuter
definitely, to me Snoop's cqreer took a major turn in 2002, between Doggystyle All Stars and Paid Da Cost To be Tha Boss. On Doggystyle All Stars, Snoop was doing what he had started with the eastsidaz albums. He was doing family albums with his own musical influences and affiliated producers. He was giving an identity to his label. It sold rather well but it didn't cross over (i mean except doggystyle allstars, which flopped, but the first ES album went platinum, the second went gold, last meal went platinum). that's when i was really feeling dogghouse. then the eastsidaz disbanded (not officially until 2003 though). and Paid Da Cost Came Out. The retail version was quite different from the many advance that had leaked (i preferred the advances, that had that doggystyle flavour) on the internet and that's when Snoop started to cross over. He did songs with Pharell, then with Justin Timberlake. His started Doggyfizzle televizzle, then other television shows. Then Snoop became more of a pop-star than an actual rapper, in a way you can say that Snoop almost retired from the regular rap-game to become a sort of socialite that you would see everywhere. Kinda like Jay-Z between 2001 and 2002. Jay-Z went "pop" after the first blueprint album. Before he was strictly rap game, then he started expanding into all kind of ventures to eventually become what he is today. Jay-Z in 2001 did a song with the dogg pound (albeit a remix). He would never do that in 2010, he's too busy jumping on the hottest rapper's latest song's remix.
-
Snoop's 40 years old. The only gangsta shit he should be talking about is with his kids and telling them what not to do.
-
don't get me wrong i dont really care for his music but at least it's fresh, spontaneous, and sometimes innovative
oh come on, you've got to be joking.
lol, that's what I think, a lot of stuffs are wack/weak, but a lot of stuffs is actually fresh too, like Snoop tries a lot of different things, he uses different producers that bring different things to the table. for example, him fucking with Terrace, Teddy Riley, Quik, Soopafly. They're all great producers with different styles, his collaborations with all of them produced music that was sometimes not very good, or weird (the songs with teddy riley) but at least it was new and fresh. His stuff with the Neptunes... I wasn't a fan of that period but I must admit that Snoop added his own twist to something, he didn't follow the hype or anything. when from da chuuuch to tha palace came out, a lot of people thought it was wack, i thought this was actually dope because snoop had the leverage to not stick to any formula and came up with something cool. it wasn't on the same level as the eastsidaz albums which are great albums from the classic snoop but still it was original.
when i say spontaneous, that's one thing you can't take away from snoop. even though he's doing too much sometimes. sometimes he comes wack on the beat too, with hackneyed lyrics but i think over the years he's managed to stay spontaneous.
I'm not even a fan of snoop, he was the one who introduced me to gangsta rap but i don't think he's in my top 5. but dude is a multi-faceted character (to me boss's life video with the many snoops exemplifies this) and i think he's one of the realest to do it. even-though he's one egotistic, sometimes playa-hating dude he gets respect from everybody, and that's saying a lot.
I may be wrong, but Snoop seems to me like he feels too self confident, and not seek that much anymore.. that may be the reason of his music bein so neuter
definitely, to me Snoop's cqreer took a major turn in 2002, between Doggystyle All Stars and Paid Da Cost To be Tha Boss. On Doggystyle All Stars, Snoop was doing what he had started with the eastsidaz albums. He was doing family albums with his own musical influences and affiliated producers. He was giving an identity to his label. It sold rather well but it didn't cross over (i mean except doggystyle allstars, which flopped, but the first ES album went platinum, the second went gold, last meal went platinum). that's when i was really feeling dogghouse. then the eastsidaz disbanded (not officially until 2003 though). and Paid Da Cost Came Out. The retail version was quite different from the many advance that had leaked (i preferred the advances, that had that doggystyle flavour) on the internet and that's when Snoop started to cross over. He did songs with Pharell, then with Justin Timberlake. His started Doggyfizzle televizzle, then other television shows. Then Snoop became more of a pop-star than an actual rapper, in a way you can say that Snoop almost retired from the regular rap-game to become a sort of socialite that you would see everywhere. Kinda like Jay-Z between 2001 and 2002. Jay-Z went "pop" after the first blueprint album. Before he was strictly rap game, then he started expanding into all kind of ventures to eventually become what he is today. Jay-Z in 2001 did a song with the dogg pound (albeit a remix). He would never do that in 2010, he's too busy jumping on the hottest rapper's latest song's remix.
Yeah that Doggy Style All Stars DVD shows a totally different Snoop to the one we see now. Amazing time when they were at their peek (musically).
-
One thing cought my attention.. Snoop announced new album in like December (not sure), and the date is set to March.. that gives you like 3-4 months (including promotion etc.).. Snoop seems really busy, hes all arround on TV, into many organizations and all that.. so lot of his time goes for that, i doubt that hes in studio every day, but even if so, he cant spend much time in there daily makin music..
all that together doesnt give him much time for making the album..
I may be wrong, but Snoop seems to me like he feels too self confident, and not seek that much anymore.. that may be the reason of his music bein so neuter
I think Snoop announced this record around early October and he was already in the making process. Before he was planning on doing a sequel to Doggystyle but then he scrapped it and came with that Doggumentary Music concept, which was going online now and then, showing people the process of making the album, let them have that studio feeling. And he already dropped at least 4 tracks from the album, so I think March is a realistic date.
On a another note, of course Snoop is hella self confident, but not much more remarkable than any other star in the music genre. Look at some rock stars how they act, Snoop is nothing compared to that. I think he was just too lazy the last 3-4 years to put enough effort in his own rhymes and his own flow. He used to have good production. But his voice sounded tired and his flow sounded a lil bit off track sometimes or too much bulit-up to say it with other words. But this new track for example - "Gangbang Rookie" - thats dat good shit from back in the day. Reminds me a lot on his flow and voice from Paid Tha Cost...
now the video is hilarious but i don't agree with dude. why acting hard if you're not hard ? even if you're hard, acting hard all the time will make you look like a retard more than anything... Snoop got to the point where he's paid his dues... everybody knows he's a friendly cat who can get down and do stuff with everyone, from The Comrads to some russian rapper... he still gets respect from most in the industry. I think he's the only one who can pull it off and get away with it. I mean Snoop's prime is well passed but he's still somehow relevant... instead of trying to get back to his doggystyle days he's just doing him... which is acting a fool and doing the hell he wants... and get paid. he was in the forbes 2010 top ten with 10 mil and MIW only sold like 300,000. don't get me wrong i dont really care for his music but at least it's fresh, spontaneous, and sometimes innovative, even if inconsistent... i think he's being real and even if doesn't sound as good as in the 90's, i consider it realer than some rappers that try to repeat the same formula they used in the 90's over and over again and who in the end not only sound outdated but also fake in a way. that's why I don't fuck with Kush (snoop included), no matter how good it is from a musical standpoint, but it's forced and lacks spontaneity...
I agree with you for the most part. That's some real shit!
+1
But I gotta disagree to the Neptunes part :D
I really liked when he was working with Pharrell and Chad. I think the music was very fresh and Snoop added his own interpretation to it and gave it a soul-feeling as well with putting Uncle Charlie Wilson on it for example. I feel like those two, Pharrel and Snoop, were and are a great duo that should do more work together. But maybe that's just because I consider Pharrell as one of my favourite artists musically. This guy is really talented no matter what you say.
-
But I gotta disagree to the Neptunes part :D
I really liked when he was working with Pharrell and Chad. I think the music was very fresh and Snoop added his own interpretation to it and gave it a soul-feeling as well with putting Uncle Charlie Wilson on it for example. I feel like those two, Pharrel and Snoop, were and are a great duo that should do more work together. But maybe that's just because I consider Pharrell as one of my favourite artists musically. This guy is really talented no matter what you say.
nah man I agree with you, that's what i more or less said "I wasn't a fan of that period but I must admit that Snoop added his own twist to something, he didn't follow the hype or anything. when from da chuuuch to tha palace came out, a lot of people thought it was wack, i thought this was actually dope because snoop had the leverage to not stick to any formula and came up with something cool." I'm just saying i preferred the eastsidaz period.
All the songs with Pharell are cool as hell, From Da Chuuch To Da Palace, Beautiful, Let's Get Blown, Drop It Like It's Hot. They had great chemistry and that kept Snoop relevant in the game. But that's not what I prefer from him. You're right to mention Charlie Wilson too because ever since Snoop put him on those singles he became big again, R. Kelly signed him in 05 and his 09 album hit #1 in the Billboard charts... I don't think it's a coincidence because Snoop had consistently been fucking with him since Doggfather and the impact on Charlie's career wasn't significant (his album bridging the gap and the Gap Band Y2K album didnt really blow) but as soon as he put him on a crossover song, now he's everywhere, doing songs with T-Pain, Lil Kim, Trae or UGK...
-
I liked what Snoop said in a Dubcnn interview in like 2006 (?), that he makes music, that he like, it may not hit your taste, but he doesnt do it strictly for you..
i totally agree with that, if he really loves what hes doin, loves music, he should do what he feel..
Preach. And I been listening a hella lot of pop lately with my Girl at home and Snoops new stuff is as good or better than the majority of artists stuff out there.
Snoop put out better Albums than Usher, Lady Gaga, Timbaland and even the Black Eyed Peas album 'The E.N.D.' had some banging singles but the album was weak as dishwater.
Hate or love it Snoops an all round performer/entertainer...if you don't want to follow his commercial stuff stick to his stuff that's in-house produced or collabos with other Rappers. And that's nuthin new, been that way since 2000 or before.
whats that nate dogg pic from ?
-
From the fact that snoop can still do gangta songs sometimes and they sound dope and he goes pop and all too, all it point out to is that SNOOP IS A HUSTLER....Simples!
I don't enjoy or play his poppy songs, but have been bumping Black & Yellow, That Good and been listening to some old ones like WTTC Vol 1 and Dead Man walking.....
He's got music to last me for so long , so if he decides to drop a few more banger, fine, If not goodluck to the man!
-
I liked what Snoop said in a Dubcnn interview in like 2006 (?), that he makes music, that he like, it may not hit your taste, but he doesnt do it strictly for you..
i totally agree with that, if he really loves what hes doin, loves music, he should do what he feel..
Preach. And I been listening a hella lot of pop lately with my Girl at home and Snoops new stuff is as good or better than the majority of artists stuff out there.
Snoop put out better Albums than Usher, Lady Gaga, Timbaland and even the Black Eyed Peas album 'The E.N.D.' had some banging singles but the album was weak as dishwater.
Hate or love it Snoops an all round performer/entertainer...if you don't want to follow his commercial stuff stick to his stuff that's in-house produced or collabos with other Rappers. And that's nuthin new, been that way since 2000 or before.
whats that nate dogg pic from ?
Magazine shoot I guess - found it on the web 8) 8)
-
i usually defend Snoop, but dancing wit gummi-bears is too much..
thats not a good look, even for a mainstream-dude..
-
your right dog, dancing with gummi bears crosses the artistic line..........makes the dude look corny...and look like a chump...
-
i usually defend Snoop, but dancing wit gummi-bears is too much..
thats not a good look, even for a mainstream-dude..
That track was a massive hit though. Constant radio play and video on TV 24/7.
-
snoop's dope and he was once one of my favs. until that ego trippin shit came out. what's my name shoulda been the the closest snoop got to pop. mufuckas already know who he is so it's not like he had to introduce himself. snoop's problem is he has too many yes men and not a real musical visionary like dre was for him on death row and also remember when snoop was really spittin suge was jerkin him so i think when he actually started touchin some real paper he went crazy and stopped being hungry and focused. the last album he dropped that was truly a masterpiece was the last meal after that he let pharrell fuck his shit up but at the same time snoop seems to have a bad beat selection without guidance for some reason even though he created classics by himself (doggystyle records 2000 - 1 era) he creates trash which makes some of us feel he can't make top notch shit without dre when he should be able to at this point in his career. but bring that g shit back snoop and write ya own shit.
-
i usually defend Snoop, but dancing wit gummi-bears is too much..
thats not a good look, even for a mainstream-dude..
That track was a massive hit though. Constant radio play and video on TV 24/7.
yeah, i guess the gummibear-thing made it into a smash, huh?
*silence* .... no
-
Yeah, i guess the gummibear-thing made it into a smash, huh?
*silence* .... no
Lol you've seen the whole video dude? It's a party/summer track. The whole vids like that. It's reppin Cali HARD worldwide with Snoop and one of the biggest female artists of the moment.
-
Yeah, i guess the gummibear-thing made it into a smash, huh?
*silence* .... no
Lol you've seen the whole video dude? It's a party/summer track. The whole vids like that. It's reppin Cali HARD worldwide with Snoop and one of the biggest female artists of the moment.
LMAO
i can assure you - that Snoop Doggs dance-routine wit his gummibear-pals, was not the reason it blew up..
-
Yeah, i guess the gummibear-thing made it into a smash, huh?
*silence* .... no
Lol you've seen the whole video dude? It's a party/summer track. The whole vids like that. It's reppin Cali HARD worldwide with Snoop and one of the biggest female artists of the moment.
What kind of crack have you been smoking?
-
Yeah, i guess the gummibear-thing made it into a smash, huh?
*silence* .... no
Lol you've seen the whole video dude? It's a party/summer track. The whole vids like that. It's reppin Cali HARD worldwide with Snoop and one of the biggest female artists of the moment.
LMAO
i can assure you - that Snoop Doggs dance-routine wit his gummibear-pals, was not the reason it blew up..
I didn't say it was. ;)
-
Yeah, i guess the gummibear-thing made it into a smash, huh?
*silence* .... no
Lol you've seen the whole video dude? It's a party/summer track. The whole vids like that. It's reppin Cali HARD worldwide with Snoop and one of the biggest female artists of the moment.
What kind of crack have you been smoking?
Don't see the connection with Cali? I'll give you a clue, it's in the title ;D
-
Yeah, i guess the gummibear-thing made it into a smash, huh?
*silence* .... no
Lol you've seen the whole video dude? It's a party/summer track. The whole vids like that. It's reppin Cali HARD worldwide with Snoop and one of the biggest female artists of the moment.
What kind of crack have you been smoking?
Don't see the connection with Cali? I'll give you a clue, it's in the title ;D
That song doesn't represent California in any way, shape, or form minus the name. Enough said.
-
Yeah, i guess the gummibear-thing made it into a smash, huh?
*silence* .... no
Lol you've seen the whole video dude? It's a party/summer track. The whole vids like that. It's reppin Cali HARD worldwide with Snoop and one of the biggest female artists of the moment.
What kind of crack have you been smoking?
Don't see the connection with Cali? I'll give you a clue, it's in the title ;D
I don't see any self respecting man from California or let alone the United States bumping the song saying that's my jam! That song was made for women, because women buy records. That song wasn't made to represent California. and it's her song - not Snoop Dogg's. Snoop just did it for the exposure and money. If that song really represented California, it wouldn't be talking about women so much would it?
-
Yeah, i guess the gummibear-thing made it into a smash, huh?
*silence* .... no
Lol you've seen the whole video dude? It's a party/summer track. The whole vids like that. It's reppin Cali HARD worldwide with Snoop and one of the biggest female artists of the moment.
yeah, plus the whole concept of the video is about this candy stuff and that "in tha land of cockaigne"-kinda style. And Snoop just plays the Master of Candy or what so ever, I really like the video and the fact that's it not too serious. I don't know what your problem is in this case, since the track is a summer party track like OG Will already said. It would be a problem to me if this was a serious song though...
I think there videos with Snoop's appearence that are more corny... sitting on the moon in "midnight love" for instance lol...
-
Yeah, i guess the gummibear-thing made it into a smash, huh?
*silence* .... no
Lol you've seen the whole video dude? It's a party/summer track. The whole vids like that. It's reppin Cali HARD worldwide with Snoop and one of the biggest female artists of the moment.
What kind of crack have you been smoking?
LOL.
-
Yeah, i guess the gummibear-thing made it into a smash, huh?
*silence* .... no
Lol you've seen the whole video dude? It's a party/summer track. The whole vids like that. It's reppin Cali HARD worldwide with Snoop and one of the biggest female artists of the moment.
yeah, plus the whole concept of the video is about this candy stuff and that "in tha land of cockaigne"-kinda style. And Snoop just plays the Master of Candy or what so ever, I really like the video and the fact that's it not too serious. I don't know what your problem is in this case, since the track is a summer party track like OG Will already said. It would be a problem to me if this was a serious song though...
I think there videos with Snoop's appearence that are more corny... sitting on the moon in "midnight love" for instance lol...
its impossible to defend a grownup-mans dance-routine wit gummi-bears.
specielly when it concerns a former crip-gangbanger..
i dont have a problem wit the video, whyd u assume that?
i said its just too much, which it is..
like i said, i usually defend Snoop, i dont believe in the word "sell-out" - and im okay wit everythin he did.
from his theme-song for "one life to live", his apearances on "Martha" to his chit-chat wit the "View"-ladies..
but dancing wit gummi-bears isnt a good look for anyone..
-
Yeah, i guess the gummibear-thing made it into a smash, huh?
*silence* .... no
Lol you've seen the whole video dude? It's a party/summer track. The whole vids like that. It's reppin Cali HARD worldwide with Snoop and one of the biggest female artists of the moment.
yeah, plus the whole concept of the video is about this candy stuff and that "in tha land of cockaigne"-kinda style. And Snoop just plays the Master of Candy or what so ever, I really like the video and the fact that's it not too serious. I don't know what your problem is in this case, since the track is a summer party track like OG Will already said. It would be a problem to me if this was a serious song though...
I think there videos with Snoop's appearence that are more corny... sitting on the moon in "midnight love" for instance lol...
its impossible to defend a grownup-mans dance-routine wit gummi-bears.
specielly when it concerns a former crip-gangbanger..
i dont have a problem wit the video, whyd u assume that?
i said its just too much, which it is..
like i said, i usually defend Snoop, i dont believe in the word "sell-out" - and im okay wit everythin he did.
from his theme-song for "one life to live", his apearances on "Martha" to his chit-chat wit the "View"-ladies..
but dancing wit gummi-bears isnt a good look for anyone..
(http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/1870/katyperrycaliforniagurl.jpg)
It's that kind of video. Don't sweat it 8)
-
snoop's dope and he was once one of my favs. until that ego trippin shit came out. what's my name shoulda been the the closest snoop got to pop. mufuckas already know who he is so it's not like he had to introduce himself. snoop's problem is he has too many yes men and not a real musical visionary like dre was for him on death row and also remember when snoop was really spittin suge was jerkin him so i think when he actually started touchin some real paper he went crazy and stopped being hungry and focused. the last album he dropped that was truly a masterpiece was the last meal after that he let pharrell fuck his shit up but at the same time snoop seems to have a bad beat selection without guidance for some reason even though he created classics by himself (doggystyle records 2000 - 1 era) he creates trash which makes some of us feel he can't make top notch shit without dre when he should be able to at this point in his career. but bring that g shit back snoop and write ya own shit.
I dont agree that Pharell fucked Snoop up. Pharell, along with The Neptunes got some crazy beats, and the tracks Snoop has done with Pharell are really good..
The Last Meal was his last classic album i guess, altho i really enjoyed The Blue Carpet Treatment, excluding couple of tracks (not many tho), its very good album, imo, its his 4th best (in my eyes it goes like Doggystyle->Last Meal->Doggfather->Blue Carpet).. R&G, was a bad shot, but still had some ncie tracks in it.. the horror started on Ego Trippin'
-
snoop's dope and he was once one of my favs. until that ego trippin shit came out. what's my name shoulda been the the closest snoop got to pop. mufuckas already know who he is so it's not like he had to introduce himself. snoop's problem is he has too many yes men and not a real musical visionary like dre was for him on death row and also remember when snoop was really spittin suge was jerkin him so i think when he actually started touchin some real paper he went crazy and stopped being hungry and focused. the last album he dropped that was truly a masterpiece was the last meal after that he let pharrell fuck his shit up but at the same time snoop seems to have a bad beat selection without guidance for some reason even though he created classics by himself (doggystyle records 2000 - 1 era) he creates trash which makes some of us feel he can't make top notch shit without dre when he should be able to at this point in his career. but bring that g shit back snoop and write ya own shit.
I dont agree that Pharell fucked Snoop up. Pharell, along with The Neptunes got some crazy beats, and the tracks Snoop has done with Pharell are really good..
The Last Meal was his last classic album i guess, altho i really enjoyed The Blue Carpet Treatment, excluding couple of tracks (not many tho), its very good album, imo, its his 4th best (in my eyes it goes like Doggystyle->Last Meal->Doggfather->Blue Carpet).. R&G, was a bad shot, but still had some ncie tracks in it.. the horror started on Ego Trippin'
vato and 10 lil crips are the only beats he did for snoop i liked. if you ask me he shoulda gave change clothes to snoop instead of jay.
-
My only issue with snoop now days which some have already posted is his lack of vision for each album. Every damn album now days he states its gonna be this and that and it ends up becoming just a album with random tracks thrown together with various features....for ego trippin he said it was gonna be all him no features no singers on the hook just all him ego trippin and it ended up not being that...then with malice he said he was gonna come with a sinister dark sound this time round and it was nothing near that...then for his upcomign album he was in the studio with swizz beats saying that albums dont have a sound anymore and thats what they were going for and now its shaping up to be a bunch of soft radio type songs....tired up albums sounding like complilations with 10 million producers and features it kills a album and ends up sounding like a compilation.
-
Snoop done became lazy he don't even write his own shit no more, probably hasn't in years. He got a bad ear for beats too lately.
-
if you look at Snoop's career though, it looks like he's never fully written his lyrics... I mean in the beginning it was D.O.C. helping him with the lyrics, he even admitted that he couldn't come up with more than one verse sometimes. then Tray Deee ghostwrote a LOT for him in the mid 90's, then it was Bad Azz, Problem etc. there was always some sharp dude to polish his lyrics. Snoop is definitely not a lyricist, he's not the weakest, he comes up with witty lines, good play on words, cadence, pronunciation, but he oftens runs in circle, uses the same commonplace rhyme... there are a lot of dudes in the west alone i'd pick over snoop as far as lyrics... Ras Kass, Cube, E-40, Crooked I, San Quinn, even Game... but dude could flow like no other had some point and still got it when he wants too... for example on Daz's I Got Tha Fire... his verse was ill!!
-
if you look at Snoop's career though, it looks like he's never fully written his lyrics... I mean in the beginning it was D.O.C. helping him with the lyrics, he even admitted that he couldn't come up with more than one verse sometimes. then Tray Deee ghostwrote a LOT for him in the mid 90's, then it was Bad Azz, Problem etc. there was always some sharp dude to polish his lyrics. Snoop is definitely not a lyricist, he's not the weakest, he comes up with witty lines, good play on words, cadence, pronunciation, but he oftens runs in circle, uses the same commonplace rhyme... there are a lot of dudes in the west alone i'd pick over snoop as far as lyrics... Ras Kass, Cube, E-40, Crooked I, San Quinn, even Game... but dude could flow like no other had some point and still got it when he wants too... for example on Daz's I Got Tha Fire... his verse was ill!!
i feel you homie. he always said writing wasn't his strong point but he still managed to write on the chronic. d.o.c. coached him . i think smokin too much did it. got writer's block. i'd say he's a lyricist though. he just need high quality production and not that scoop deville shit.
-
if you look at Snoop's career though, it looks like he's never fully written his lyrics... I mean in the beginning it was D.O.C. helping him with the lyrics, he even admitted that he couldn't come up with more than one verse sometimes. then Tray Deee ghostwrote a LOT for him in the mid 90's, then it was Bad Azz, Problem etc. there was always some sharp dude to polish his lyrics. Snoop is definitely not a lyricist, he's not the weakest, he comes up with witty lines, good play on words, cadence, pronunciation, but he oftens runs in circle, uses the same commonplace rhyme... there are a lot of dudes in the west alone i'd pick over snoop as far as lyrics... Ras Kass, Cube, E-40, Crooked I, San Quinn, even Game... but dude could flow like no other had some point and still got it when he wants too... for example on Daz's I Got Tha Fire... his verse was ill!!
no, thats not tue at all.
Snoop always wrote his own lyrics, until pretty recently - when he decided to let Problem pen some lyrics for him for the "ego trippin"-album
Bad azz, Tray Dee and other artists used to come up with hooks and choruse, or polish a few lyrics.
i know Bad azz did write Snoops part on "Midnite Love" though, or helped him polish stuff at least. and Bad azz wrote Snoops part on "Just dippin", while Kurupt wrote Dre's part. i also know Daz helped wit a few rhymes/ideas on the "doggystyle" album.
D.o.c didnt ghostwrite for him - thats a common misconception/myth, he acted more like a coach, and showed Snoop how to construct rhyme-patterns, songs and stuff like that. kinda like Jam Master Jay did for 50 cent.. but he wrote the lyrics himself.
Snoop wrote the majority of "the chronic"-album, and also some lyrics for other artists like Paradise..
-
yeah my bad, d.o.c. didn't actually ghostwrite for him, he was a coach. that still shows that snoop isn't a lyricist at heart, unlike people like doc or crook. (that doesn't mean he's a terrible writer though). tray deee also wrote for snoop on no limit top dogg, i think it's for the song betta days but i'm not sure. you can hear original versions or demos of songs where tray deee uses sentences that were later used by snoop. as for bad azz, dude wrote for the whole dogg pound camp. he wrote for warren g, daz (i'd rather lie 2 ya which was originally a bad azz song), snoop...
-
yeah my bad, d.o.c. didn't actually ghostwrite for him, he was a coach. that still shows that snoop isn't a lyricist at heart, unlike people like doc or crook. (that doesn't mean he's a terrible writer though). tray deee also wrote for snoop on no limit top dogg, i think it's for the song betta days but i'm not sure. you can hear original versions or demos of songs where tray deee uses sentences that were later used by snoop. as for bad azz, dude wrote for the whole dogg pound camp. he wrote for warren g, daz (i'd rather lie 2 ya which was originally a bad azz song), snoop...
D.O.C. actually writes for him these days, haha. Pimpin' Ain't Easy, Imagine, 'Round Here, and a few others were all D.O.C. Funny how shit changed.
-
INTERVENTION for music LMAO LMAO funny and true snoop new song wet is the weakest shit i ever heard , its a joke Autotune ? somebody hasnt told snoop that Autotune is old and played out , damn
-
yeah my bad, d.o.c. didn't actually ghostwrite for him, he was a coach. that still shows that snoop isn't a lyricist at heart, unlike people like doc or crook. (that doesn't mean he's a terrible writer though). tray deee also wrote for snoop on no limit top dogg, i think it's for the song betta days but i'm not sure. you can hear original versions or demos of songs where tray deee uses sentences that were later used by snoop. as for bad azz, dude wrote for the whole dogg pound camp. he wrote for warren g, daz (i'd rather lie 2 ya which was originally a bad azz song), snoop...
D.O.C. actually writes for him these days, haha. Pimpin' Ain't Easy, Imagine, 'Round Here, and a few others were all D.O.C. Funny how shit changed.
yeah, thats true.
not only that, Doc even made reference-verses for Snoop,. lol
Theres a version of "Pimpin aint easy" that leaked, where Doc does Snoops verses..
-
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_zLznuQOQgo4/TDIUTWsmUsI/AAAAAAAAF54/wDIBTlnFxo4/s1600/snopdog+1.JPG)
""respect my gangsta, cuzz..
long beach 21st crip.
thats on the set""
Not one blue Gummy Bear in sight....
Pssh! And he calls himself crippin!
-
More amazing moments in the life of Cordozar Calvin Broadus...
(http://img815.imageshack.us/img815/3227/snoopdoggbollywood.jpg) (http://img815.imageshack.us/i/snoopdoggbollywood.jpg/)
(http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/7669/snoopdoggcowboy.jpg) (http://img26.imageshack.us/i/snoopdoggcowboy.jpg/)
(http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/6566/snoopdoggcowboy2.jpg) (http://img98.imageshack.us/i/snoopdoggcowboy2.jpg/)
(http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/2005/snoopgermancellad.jpg) (http://img256.imageshack.us/i/snoopgermancellad.jpg/)
(http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/9550/snoophat.jpg) (http://img291.imageshack.us/i/snoophat.jpg/)
(http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/8234/ashtonkutchersnoopdogg.jpg) (http://img840.imageshack.us/i/ashtonkutchersnoopdogg.jpg/)
(http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/4782/snoopdogghalloween.jpg) (http://img831.imageshack.us/i/snoopdogghalloween.jpg/)
(http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/4296/snoopdoggstormtroopersl.jpg) (http://img15.imageshack.us/i/snoopdoggstormtroopersl.jpg/)
(http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/4418/snooppcudi.jpg) (http://img513.imageshack.us/i/snooppcudi.jpg/)
(http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/2245/snoopdoggkilt.jpg) (http://img211.imageshack.us/i/snoopdoggkilt.jpg/)
(http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/4539/snoopdoggtoodee.jpg) (http://img543.imageshack.us/i/snoopdoggtoodee.jpg/)
(http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/3720/snoop1c.jpg) (http://img269.imageshack.us/i/snoop1c.jpg/)
(http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/4458/snoopandquestdef.jpg) (http://img502.imageshack.us/i/snoopandquestdef.jpg/)
(http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/4627/snoopyoga.jpg) (http://img59.imageshack.us/i/snoopyoga.jpg/)
(http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/2305/snoopwwe.jpg) (http://img443.imageshack.us/i/snoopwwe.jpg/)
(http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/1921/xmassnoop01.jpg) (http://img707.imageshack.us/i/xmassnoop01.jpg/)
-
^^LMAO at some of those pics
+1
-
snoop dogg stepped into the wwe ring....wow I would never have guessed it
-
On that old clip of Dre talkin on MTV (wayyy back in 94 I think) someone just posted, he said when they got together for Doggystyle and the Chronic, EVERYONE put some ideas in the 'hat/pot' whatever, and what they came up with was magic. He actually says "you can't do that shit without everyone batting round ideas" or some such. He never claimed otherwise. Collabos are king. Like in freestyles and battling shit it's that spontaneity of firing off or against another rapper or a with the DJ on the beat. In that recent interview with Rage, RBX, Snoop and Kurupt (MTV again) it was the same, they said back then they were always challenging each other to go further, and better. I think RBX compared it to all the Kung Fu movies they were watching at the time!!
What I'm saying is Snoop having Problem or whoever in the studio as an ideas man on one album isn't a new concept. Soopafly is always around Snoop. Snoop said once Soopafly is one guy he'll always run a track past before he releases it. It's just how it works. If it's not your 'team' like Snoop has, it's your posse or homies. The only rapper I've ever heard of who writes alone ... in his head... not even on Paper..is Jay-Z, but then he's probably also counting up the revenue of each add lib as he writes em.
-
E-white is another that wrote some stuff for Snoop. I remember in an interview sSnoop said about a track or two on the 1st no limit album "Masta P wrote the whole thing"?
Anyways the Gummi bear thing dosent bother me at all. Songs like "wet" and albums like "MIW" bother me much more so..
LOL at pics, thought i'd add some more;
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb198/skrazy_album/vogue-snoop-dogg.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb198/skrazy_album/snoopdogg_mtv_australia09.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb198/skrazy_album/snoopdoggcricket.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb198/skrazy_album/snoop.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb198/skrazy_album/katy-perry-snoop-dogg.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb198/skrazy_album/500x_martha-stewart-snoop-dogg.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb198/skrazy_album/snoop_dogg_10_wenn2146099.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb198/skrazy_album/snoop_dogg.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb198/skrazy_album/snoop_cup1_narrowweb__300x4500.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb198/skrazy_album/snoopdogg_mtv_australia01.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb198/skrazy_album/sophie-monk-australia-09.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb198/skrazy_album/10s3.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb198/skrazy_album/020434682-EXH00.jpg)
-
Yeah, i guess the gummibear-thing made it into a smash, huh?
*silence* .... no
Lol you've seen the whole video dude? It's a party/summer track. The whole vids like that. It's reppin Cali HARD worldwide with Snoop and one of the biggest female artists of the moment.
yeah, plus the whole concept of the video is about this candy stuff and that "in tha land of cockaigne"-kinda style. And Snoop just plays the Master of Candy or what so ever, I really like the video and the fact that's it not too serious. I don't know what your problem is in this case, since the track is a summer party track like OG Will already said. It would be a problem to me if this was a serious song though...
I think there videos with Snoop's appearence that are more corny... sitting on the moon in "midnight love" for instance lol...
its impossible to defend a grownup-mans dance-routine wit gummi-bears.
specielly when it concerns a former crip-gangbanger..
i dont have a problem wit the video, whyd u assume that?
i said its just too much, which it is..
like i said, i usually defend Snoop, i dont believe in the word "sell-out" - and im okay wit everythin he did.
from his theme-song for "one life to live", his apearances on "Martha" to his chit-chat wit the "View"-ladies..
but dancing wit gummi-bears isnt a good look for anyone..
(http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/1870/katyperrycaliforniagurl.jpg)
It's that kind of video. Don't sweat it 8)
For some reasons, that pic is creepy
-
I must have too much time on my hands...
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb198/skrazy_album/VietGiaiTriCom-20bbfbd0.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb198/skrazy_album/snoop-spears.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb198/skrazy_album/SnoopDoggsHoodofHorror.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb198/skrazy_album/snoopdogg_mtv_australia08-1.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb198/skrazy_album/snoopbeks.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb198/skrazy_album/MTV_Movie_Awards_2010_1.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb198/skrazy_album/js8j6imdbh4vdmhj.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb198/skrazy_album/1262742663316_f.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb198/skrazy_album/3725729220_6706ab876b.jpg)
-
^ there's nothing wrong with most of your pics
-
^ Yeah cept that last one huh?.... and tha beiber one prehaps.
Wasnt meant as a Snoop diss, dudes an international star(evidently). But the pics were kinda to do with the thread title. Depends on your definition of "gangsta" i guess.
-
I don't know what's more gangsta than having your name written on a pair of boobs
-
^Again you may have misunderstood me. But now i dont know if your comment was sarcasm or not? ^^; lol.
Personally traveling around the globe with millions of dollars and an entourage plus body gaurds, drinking fine drink an earting fine food an having woman flocking is gangsta as fuck.
But again the meaning of the term "gangsta" would seem one of which varies greatly.
His music of course isnt gangsta anymore on the most part. largely due to the selection of production. I dont think the topic matter has changed TOO much. Bar the love songs.
-
ok I get you now. The first pics posted were pics of him looking as non-gangsta as possible, so your pics threw me off
-
its not gonna happen...theres no money in being gangsta
i wish i could collectively slap all these hard headed groupies that are waiting on the edge of there seat for the g funk revolution.
its not coming.
REALITY CHECK: snoops never gonna replicate doggy style, dre cant make the impact he once did, warren g is washed up and daz never had "it"
-
its not gonna happen...theres no money in being gangsta
i wish i could collectively slap all these hard headed groupies that are waiting on the edge of there seat for the g funk revolution.
its not coming.
REALITY CHECK: snoops never gonna replicate doggy style, dre cant make the impact he once did, warren g is washed up and daz never had "it"
I gotta agree with this. I was a teen when all that gangsta rap was on fire and i loved it...but in the real just basing off of what dre has done recently it sounds nowhere is near as good as the stuff he was delivering on deathrow...so if dre cant do it today what really makes us think snoop can.