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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: Don Seer on November 17, 2004, 12:09:39 AM
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http://downloads.hitemup.com/streethop.php?dir=video&filename=vibe-award-fight-streethopcom.avi
right click save as.. and rename the file.. you'll see from the size it aint just a page..
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thanks for the file...
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i think its missing a bit of the start, and the quality aint all that
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This one's brighter, a little bit easier to see..
I see 50 Cent & Banks throwing punches, and eventually Banks and some other people drag some other people back and then police breaks it up..
I can't see Young Buck in there though.. only in the beginning with that big ass G-Unit piece.
And who is the bodyguard protecting/holding around, at the stage.. ?
In the first clip it looked like Dre was standing near the stage, but it's a bodyguard who's a little fatter than Dre, and with a sideburn.
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the dude they're protecting is the one that hit Dre. probably protecting him cause every other person there wants to mob him
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^^ But at what time does he get stabbed, and when did Dre chase him.. ??
I think we only see half of it, more probably happened backstage.
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thx man
downloading it
duno if i can se the young buck part.... the yclaim he stabbed the guy
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i think u guys can see the guy who did the stabbing in the last 10-15 secs of the clip
he has white top on
black pants
dunno if its buck or not
but he pulls somn out jump in the fight then leaves from the right seconds after police started spraying mase
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you do see the dude get stabbed. right after it zooms in on the guy then 50 rushes in to punch him. the camera pulls back a little as everyone gets bunched up. there's a dude practically in the middle of the screen, he's got a gray hoodie on and a black hat. he lunges at the guy and then when he comes back you can see the knife in his hand. it's right at 34 seconds into the clip. you can't see it that well in this version, but it's clear as day on the one on mtv.com.
dre is at the corner of the stage, dressed in all black the whole time. at 35 seconds, you can see him start smashin on the dude once they get him away from the bodyguard.
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can someone post up a few screen grabs so we can do the ole arrows over the heads thing? only person i'm 100% on in all that shit is banks
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dre is at the corner of the stage, dressed in all black the whole time. at 35 seconds, you can see him start smashin on the dude once they get him away from the bodyguard.
you stood on his own behind the fat bodyguard dude? he reaches in one time before they get the guy away from the bodyguard?
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50's the cat running around the whole time in the gray sweatshirt with white stripes down the shoulders. dre is in all black and is in the upper-left corner of the screen the whole time, by the corner of the stage, until everyone rushes dude--then he starts pounding on him. buck is in a gray hoodie with a black hat on. watch the lower left corner of the screen in the beginning, once the camera settles, and you can see banks talking to him. i tried to do a screen cap, but the footate on my window's media player didn't come through...
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dre is at the corner of the stage, dressed in all black the whole time. at 35 seconds, you can see him start smashin on the dude once they get him away from the bodyguard.
you stood on his own behind the fat bodyguard dude? he reaches in one time before they get the guy away from the bodyguard?
yeah, he's pretty much standing alone. you can see that some other dude rips the big body guard off of the guy and as soon as that happens dre rushes in. he's punching and kicking at the dude. also, in the very beginning, dre and 50 are talking, then they run over to the stage.
watch the video at mtv.com/news. it's much cleaner and clearer than the one you posted the link too.
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ok gotcha..
i'll try make a lil shot..
media player blocks screen caps.. i'll post up how once i've figured it :)
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just pressing print screen in windows with it paused is enough to get a screen grab..
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just watched it again on mtv and they don't actually pull the bodyguard off of the guy, 50 and some other dude manage to spin them around so that the dude is facing dre. the dude is still being held by the bodyguard and dre places his left hand on the back of the guys head and starts punching him with the right hand. this is also the same time the dude gets stabbed. you can see the knife in the hand of a guy in a gray hoodie and black hat at 33 seconds on the mtv clip. he's directly below and to the right of the bodyguard/dude who punched dre.
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yeah who is that other dude?
he's behind 50 from the start in this pic...
(http://overseer.rollinondubs.net/vibefight1.jpg)
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no that 50 was not in the fight. 50 was wearing a white tee and a yankess hat the whole night.
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i don't know who that guy is. from his size, i'd guess he's somebodies "security".
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you can see his big ass teeth at one point :D
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so ya saying this aint 50 here with banks right behind him?
despite lots of people on forums all over saying otherwise?
(http://overseer.rollinondubs.net/vibefight2.jpg)
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50 had a navy yankees hat wit white letters. u see him in the beginning of the fight. he has a bandana around his neck then walks away
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whats the url for the mtv.com one? ill see if hidownload can leech it
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shit it is 50. i dont see young buck. the news played this tape and they said buck was the guy in the black cap and sweat shirt.
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whats the url for the mtv.com one? ill see if hidownload can leech it
i've tried... the reuters one is the best quality if u can get that one
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shit it is 50. i dont see young buck. the news played this tape and they said buck was the guy in the black cap and sweat shirt.
i saw buck right near the start with banks, then he goes off to the right...i cant tell if he's there later on
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overseer get the video from here. i dont know how to record stream. this one has audio
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1493786/11162004/young_buck.jhtml
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that cat looks just like 50 in the second screen cap overseer posted, but i watched again and i see the guy with the white tee and bandanna that your talking about. i can't imagine 50 wouldn't be there while banks and buck are... also, then who the fuck is the dude in the gray and white? he goes at dude more than anybody...
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what was buck wearing?
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^ i'll get a shot of buck thats clear..
we agree the dude in the grey/white bombin on people is 50..
like dude said above.. the guy in the beige who was with 50 most of the time is the one who turned the fat bodyguard around so dre could lean in and hit dude
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he's got an all gray hoodie on and a black hat with white letters. in the beginning, once the camera is done swinging around, watch the bottom left corner of the screen. you'll see banks talking to him. you can't really see his face--i only say it's him because that's the dude who has the knife in his hand later on...
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i still dont see no knife. some plz do a screen shot of the knife.
overseer see if u could rip the mtv video
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50 bombs on alot of people, just going nuts. what i dont understand is, i thought there was only 1 of this other guy.. yet it looks like there's about 20 ppl or so fightin.. or are they all just goin for him?
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yeah.. part what through u can see him carrying a chair
(http://overseer.rollinondubs.net/vibefight3.jpg)
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i still dont see no knife. some plz do a screen shot of the knife.
overseer see if u could rip the mtv video
i tried i cant.. plus i'm supposed to be working now :D
i cant see that knife shit either..
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everybody's just gunnin for that one dude...
if you want to see the knife, go here:
http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/news/111604_nw_vibe_update.html
once there, click on the link, "Police Identify Suspect In Vibe Awards Brawl" on the right. they stop the film and zoom in on the knife.
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that was not young buck wear u pointed to. buck had on a yankees hat and grey hoody. he appears in the begiinning after the camera is done moving towards the bottom left.
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someone else take grabs.. :)
or gimme a time index / decription and a location on the screen and i'll grab one there
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http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/news/111604_nw_vibe_update.html
Buck is clearly shown there.. with a knife :D
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im leechin the mtv video now, ill upload it somewhere
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tight :)
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6.3mb, will be done soon
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what you using to get it?
and is it poss to give a mms:// link or whatever?
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www.eon.net.au/~bizare/vid_vibe_2004_brawl_416.wmv
i just cleared my internet cache, reloaded the page and it creates a .asx file, the .asx file has an mms:// link in there whch you can download with hidownload or whatever, you gotta use the whole ilnk though. it has some shit like http://www.mtv.com/blah/vid_vibe_2004_brawl_416.wmv?auth=a124r58udf087sdf0sd etc..
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the quality in this one is good.. Dre lays a few good right hands into that dude
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downloading... props :)
i tried that shit with the mms:// link last night.. but i was using asfrecorder :/
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now all that's missing is a video of the beginning.. of James walking towards Dre asking for an autograph and punching him.. but somehow that's nowhere to find, maybe noone taped it :(
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probably not since i think it happened while quincy was doing the intro...
the reuters version shows a little more than this one.. it shows the security draggin that guy up to where they end up
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scans of buck with the knife for peeps who didnt catch it...
http://www.maltman.info/buck.jpg
http://www.maltman.info/buck2.jpg
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i felt quite sorry for Quincy..."y'all messing up my rap man, i cant believe this"...lol
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www.eon.net.au/~bizare/vid_vibe_2004_brawl_416.wmv
i just cleared my internet cache, reloaded the page and it creates a .asx file, the .asx file has an mms:// link in there whch you can download with hidownload or whatever, you gotta use the whole ilnk though. it has some shit like http://www.mtv.com/blah/vid_vibe_2004_brawl_416.wmv?auth=a124r58udf087sdf0sd etc..
props on the video man ... thanks
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this 1 better thanks
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u can see 50 bombin them dudes
u can see banks takin ppl off the bouncer so dre can get a clear shot
obviously buck was the one holding the knife
and u can see dre punching the guy2 or 3 times on the head
i also saw quik at the begining
i dunno where game is but i read some where that roscoe threw a chair that landed on him
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anybody know if the video of dre getting the actual award is online...i wanna see him after it...
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im wondering wheres game and his bws i thought theyd be the first there was anyonme else there em d12 stat etc
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u can see 50 bombin them dudes
u can see banks takin ppl off the bouncer so dre can get a clear shot
obviously buck was the one holding the knife
and u can see dre punching the guy2 or 3 times on the head
i also saw quik at the begining
i dunno where game is but i read some where that roscoe threw a chair that landed on him
i don't know if that is dre... when the camera zooms in, it doesn't look like him.
I also thought I saw Quik right at the beginning.
*hits play again*
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^ where u see quik?
i'm not 100% on it being dre still.. but people i trust who say they've seen it on tv are saying it is.. so... i'm wit that..
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I don't believe that's Dre.
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^ sorry man... after looking at it, that ain't Quik... my bad
I still don't think that dude in black that gets a couple of good blows in at end is Dre
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I don't believe that's Dre.
Once again, I'm wrong. It's definately Dre, the guy that stands at the edge of the stage and shit, you can even tell by the way he stands, he's wearing the same clothes Dre was wearing @ the end, he helps turn the guy around, then beats the FUCK out of him. He even gets a couple in when they fall through the curtain, LOL.
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Can't wait for Quincy's son to put out BEEF III ........ LOL
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These fools oughta be shot for disrespecting Quincy like that. Sure, they disrespected Dre, but come on man, Quincy put on the whole show, paid for everything, invited the assholes that did this there in the first place, paid to have it on T.V., started the whole "Vibe" movement, was always high-class and all about promoting black music and society, and then they shit all over him like this. They might have well have punched Q in the face.
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I don't believe that's Dre.
Once again, I'm wrong. It's definately Dre, the guy that stands at the edge of the stage and shit, you can even tell by the way he stands, he's wearing the same clothes Dre was wearing @ the end, he helps turn the guy around, then beats the FUCK out of him. He even gets a couple in when they fall through the curtain, LOL.
The way he stands is also what makes me believe it's Dre, but if you look at dude when the camera zooms in you can tell that that guy in black is wearing a white T underneath or some sort of white necklace... if you look at his face as the camera is zooming in, it doesn't look like Dre... dude only looks like Dre from far.
I still don't think that's Dre.
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well i'm sure someone is gonna speak out on it soon.. if it really was set up by suge like some things (mtv for one) appear to be hinting then i'm sure snoop will have something to say.. maybe the rest of g-unit too..
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I'm tellin yall, something big's gonna go down over this. There's gonna be some retributions and retaliations and things that start with r's like that going down.
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for once i wish the DPG forum was still up.. i'm sure Daz got something to say on this..
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I'm tellin yall, something big's gonna go down over this. There's gonna be some retributions and retaliations and things that start with r's like that going down.
lol
The 'R' words about to come out!
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did y'all see suge in one of the video clips that was posted yesterday...talking bout how it shouldnt affect the awards etc etc...thought it was ironic they were interviewing him...
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All I gotta say is i've been tryin to follow this, Just basically figure out who was who. what happened, as we are all curious. And i swear, dubcc has been the BEST fuckin place man. I gotta give y'all props. All them other forums it's all bullshit about fuck suge or gunit ain't hard. blah blah. I love y'all for this. Dubcc is the shit. Props to the watcher for rippin that mtv thang. and props to overseer for the screen grabs, etc. The discussions and updates on shit on dubcc are the best. respect to y'all.
On another note.
Are you sure that guy in the grey sweater with white along the sleeves. Dude takin tons of swings at guy being held by bodygautd. You sure that's 50?
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Nah, I don't think it's Ironic... I think everybody knows he prob. 90% was behind it, so they were all hounding for a slipup, or something contraversial from him.
Suge, in proper fashion as always, siezed the opportunity and the publicity, like he always does, to try and promote himself. Not his artists, basically himself.
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All I gotta say is i've been tryin to follow this, Just basically figure out who was who. what happened, as we are all curious. And i swear, dubcc has been the BEST fuckin place man. I gotta give y'all props. All them other forums it's all bullshit about fuck suge or gunit ain't hard. blah blah. I love y'all for this. Dubcc is the shit. Props to the watcher for rippin that mtv thang. and props to overseer for the screen grabs, etc. The discussions and updates on shit on dubcc are the best. respect to y'all.
On another note.
Are you sure that guy in the grey sweater with white along the sleeves. Dude takin tons of swings at guy being held by bodygautd. You sure that's 50?
^ You gotta realize all of G-unit (or err, several of G-unit) are wearing the same thing, grey sweater with white down the sleeves. After the camera zooms in, you see a guy just start swingin like hell, then when they back out a little bit, you see it's 50 and he hits the guy again. He's got a black hat on, it's obviously 50, I'd say 95% positive.
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On another note.
Are you sure that guy in the grey sweater with white along the sleeves. Dude takin tons of swings at guy being held by bodygautd. You sure that's 50?
yeah.. i'm pretty sure on Dre, Banks, and 50....
i'm curious who the dude in the khaki shit with 50 is.. the guy that turns the fat security around..
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for once i wish the DPG forum was still up.. i'm sure Daz got something to say on this..
lmao he would say that he called up 50 before teh awards and the ysquashed the beef
and he cool now with spider and he and 50 r gonna mash on kurupt and suge lol.... and the riflemen
but yea i do agree
this shit aint over there will be some following incidents
i mean the whole G unit disapeared now
50 and banks r arrested
yayo is on house arrest
buck is prolyy going to do 6-9 years in jail lol
i still dunno where game was
he shoulda done somn after all the big mouthing on mixtapes
and yea u can see quik in his shirt at the begining i dunno if he jumped in the scuffle or not
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On another note.
Are you sure that guy in the grey sweater with white along the sleeves. Dude takin tons of swings at guy being held by bodygautd. You sure that's 50?
yeah.. i'm pretty sure on Dre, Banks, and 50....
i'm curious who the dude in the khaki shit with 50 is.. the guy that turns the fat security around..
i saw someone on another board say they thought they recognised sha money amongst it all...maybe him? just another suggestion...
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^ maybe.. i dunno what he looks like.. makes sense for him to be with g-unit
who knows.. maybe game'll speak up on his forum soon enough..
depends upon what the politicians within the camp decide to do
ya'll see that big guy in a black cut off shirt with compton across the back run through after they push through to the back?
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^ maybe.. i dunno what he looks like.. makes sense for him to be with g-unit
who knows.. maybe game'll speak up on his forum soon enough..
depends upon what the politicians within the camp decide to do
ya'll see that big guy in a black cut off shirt with compton across the back run through after they push through to the back?
yeah, hes kinda on the edge of things trying to get some punches in until they start pepper spraying, then he runs through the back...some cop pushes him in the back and points at him just before he runs through lol...
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images from wireimage. the dude i been wondering about in the beige is yayo...
(http://web.wireimage.com/images/thumbnail/3887932.jpg)
yayo and banks
(http://web.wireimage.com/images/thumbnail/3887287.jpg)
buck, banks and yayo..
(http://web.wireimage.com/images/thumbnail/3887931.jpg)
young buck
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thanks for the link.
few screenies:
(http://www.win-the-lotto.com/u/04/321/12/brawl1.JPG)
(http://www.win-the-lotto.com/u/04/321/12/brawl93283.JPG)
(http://www.win-the-lotto.com/u/04/321/12/brawl2.JPG)
(http://www.win-the-lotto.com/u/04/321/12/brawl9.JPG)
funny thing is, 1st fifty kicks and hits the guy, then leaves the camere to the right, then when it zooms back out, u can hear cop yelling "back off" but then 50 comes back and hits him few times more ;D then after all hell broke, he fleed to the right ;D
if that guy really is dre, he got 2 really good hits at the end ;D swingin.
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'Seer - thanks for the pictures... that really clears up the video a bit.
So Yayo throws the first chair that hits hard and then he splits to the right.
Camera zooms in.
Camera starts to zoom out.
Banks is right there in the middle of it and Buck rolls up and starts trying to get his hits in.
The dude that spins the bouncer around is NOT Yayo. If you look at what Yayo is wearing in the pics and when he throws the chair, you can see he is in all khaki (jacket and pants).... the dude that spins the bouncer around is NOT wearing a hat, and is wearing jeans (or dark pants)
I still don't think that is Dre getting those last two shots in before they all collapse to the back.
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^ So 50 is the dude in the grey unzipped sweater with the white coming down the arms, and is wearing a white t shirt underneath... wearing a black hat?
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hmm that khaki guy looks like sha money xl in those latest pics.. his face is kinda round like that..
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that's NOT yayo... look at his pants... Yayo is wearing all Khaki... this dude is wearing dark pants.
props on the screenshots though
(http://www.win-the-lotto.com/u/04/321/12/brawl9.JPG)
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So Yayo throws the first chair that hits hard and then he splits to the right.
I still don't think that is Dre getting those last two shots in before they all collapse to the back.
yeah u can see yayo with chair next to 50 when camera is still spinning, then he throws it, damn it hit hard, then 50 goes and kicks the faggot, then yayo throws another chair ;D and goes away, then some1 throws 3rd chair, which almost hit banks.
and i dont think that's dre either.
pic of yayo and 50:
(http://www.win-the-lotto.com/u/04/321/13/brawl4.JPG)
yeah the other guy might b sha money, dont know for sure.
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^ we on the same page... props.
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^ we on the same page... props.
damn straight ;) i try to find out if that other guy is sha money.
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who is the dude in the back right of that pic?
someone claimed it was Buck earlier.. but bucks wearing a hoody..
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who is the dude in the back right of that pic?
someone claimed it was Buck earlier.. but bucks wearing a hoody..
its not Buck, it's somebody from g-unit's entourage, but he doesnt do anythin in the video, just watches close by.
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ok its clear now sha money is the one who turned the bouncer to face dre
then dre took 2 punches at the guy then kicked/stomped him??
then 50 started mashing on every one around and before that had a clear shot at dre puncher
yayo threw the first chair
it landed on the guy's head
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in the last pic you posted, the guy on the right side with the bandana does he have a knife in his right hand? kinda looks like it by the way his hand is angled with his arm.
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after watching it..you can see 50 and some other g-unit dudes take one of the guys behind teh curtain and start beating him down
and that was buck pulling out the knife..i believe..i watched the video on ET, and it was good quality
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its been established that buck had a knife, and it was shown in the news report that was linked earlier...
in the last pic you posted, the guy on the right side with the bandana does he have a knife in his right hand? kinda looks like it by the way his hand is angled with his arm.
i think it said in an article i read that they noticed 3 people on video with knives...but the police didnt have names for the other 2 suspects yet...
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I too wanna see the footage of dre after he accepted his reward
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So Yayo throws the first chair that hits hard and then he splits to the right.
I still don't think that is Dre getting those last two shots in before they all collapse to the back.
yeah u can see yayo with chair next to 50 when camera is still spinning, then he throws it, damn it hit hard, then 50 goes and kicks the faggot, then yayo throws another chair ;D and goes away, then some1 throws 3rd chair, which almost hit banks.
and i dont think that's dre either.
pic of yayo and 50:
(http://www.win-the-lotto.com/u/04/321/13/brawl4.JPG)
yeah the other guy might b sha money, dont know for sure.
that isn't 50 cent
50 cent is wearing all black and a black cap with white under it...it's pretty obvious
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The clearest footage is from mtv.com.
Does anyone have a link or pics of Dre accepting his award after the scuffle?
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The clearest footage is from mtv.com.
Does anyone have a link or pics of Dre accepting his award after the scuffle?
www.wireimages.com
search with vibe awards, theres tons of pics, kinda small tho.
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So Yayo throws the first chair that hits hard and then he splits to the right.
I still don't think that is Dre getting those last two shots in before they all collapse to the back.
yeah u can see yayo with chair next to 50 when camera is still spinning, then he throws it, damn it hit hard, then 50 goes and kicks the faggot, then yayo throws another chair ;D and goes away, then some1 throws 3rd chair, which almost hit banks.
and i dont think that's dre either.
pic of yayo and 50:
(http://www.win-the-lotto.com/u/04/321/13/brawl4.JPG)
yeah the other guy might b sha money, dont know for sure.
that isn't 50 cent
50 cent is wearing all black and a black cap with white under it...it's pretty obvious
why wouldnt this be 50? I always thought this is 50.
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^^cause it's not him/...watch the video again...you can see him with his white ass buck teeth lol..he's wearing a black sweater with a black hat and that white shit under the cap
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^ where u see quik?
i'm not 100% on it being dre still.. but people i trust who say they've seen it on tv are saying it is.. so... i'm wit that..
dont look like dre...
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Aight. I watched this shit a bunch of times over and over now.
50 is the fist foo to start swinging and kicking. Buck reaches over and tries to stab dude. A guy who COULD be Dre starts hitting the foo. I'm not sure it's Dre. He's dressed the same, but looks a little bit younger than Dre. Banks gets at the dude once he's pushed off the wall into the curtains.
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man whomever posted these pics need to change their name to john madden 4real...im over here rollin..at 1st i thought those were pics from vegas when pac mobbed orlando..lol..then i saw the arrows...lol
good shit.. ;D
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Aight. I watched this shit a bunch of times over and over now.
50 is the fist foo to start swinging and kicking. Buck reaches over and tries to stab dude. A guy who COULD be Dre starts hitting the foo. I'm not sure it's Dre. He's dressed the same, but looks a little bit younger than Dre. Banks gets at the dude once he's pushed off the wall into the curtains.
and right between he gets stabbed.. the moment of impact with the knife appears to be the moment everything breaks up
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yayo = they guy in khaki with a hat on that throws the first chari
Dre = Nigga in all black
50 = Nigga with the black hat and grey hoody with a white tee.
Buck = Nigga with the hat and grey hood.
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yup yup..
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Where was the toughest man in L.A., The Game, during all of this?
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Propz on the videoz and pictures! this is some trippy shit. 4 once im also hopin the gangstaville forum openz so Daz could talk some shit n shed some light haha.
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game wasnt involved.
i gotta give a "whattup2 to all the guests browsing this topic.. boards been on fire the last two days. lol!
sign up bitches :P haha
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Where was the toughest man in L.A., The Game, during all of this?
i been wonderin the samething..did he have a change of heart?....all the "g-unit" members followed that old school " if i squab u squab,if he squab we squab" shit....and all of em did sumthin..chuck seem to be the ugly ducklin in this....
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^^^I know. That's what I find funny. The guy who talks all the shit about being down, was nowhere to be found. Young Buck is the quiet as kept dude, and he was right in the mix. LOL @ Game. I already can predict his explanation. "Man, a nigga was right there trying to help Dre, but I got held back. But, had I been there, I would've killed that nigga!"
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maybe he wasnt even at the awards?
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maybe he wasnt even at the awards?
Yeah, he better come up with a good ass alibi for.. uhhhmm.. not stomping or punching anybody like the rest of the clique. :D ;D
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when russell simmons ran out cryin ..who else was behind em??
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^ after looking at the actual telecast (TiVo) and this video over and over I don't think that's 50.
I think Game and 50 were still backstage after their performance... it happened right before Snoop and Q went on stage and soon after that, all hell broke loose.
I don't think 50 and Dre are in that brawl video.
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maybe he wasnt even at the awards?
Unless that was a stunt double performing with 50.
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7even.. yet again speaking before engaging brain... everyone knows 50/game performed games single.. ::)
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He was probably rubbing one out during the performance and forgot.
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so thats game's single that he performed? I kinda liked that song. whats it called?
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funniest thing is the bouncer that was protecting the was the first to leave the place lol right after they turned him around he fell on the ground and juss left the scene from the right lol
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^ Dre DOES Look younger, though... When the show first came on, they showed Dre in the audience, and I told my brother "Damn, he looks Young" it's because he's lost a lot of weight. Dre's usually hefty, but when they showed him @ the beginning, he was a lot thinner than he usually is... so much so that I even commented on it. I'm 95% sure that's Dre at the edge of the stage, he even stands around like Dre does, he's wearing the same clothes, they turn the guy around for him, and later, when they presented Dre the award, Dre came on stage from that side of the stage... which doesn't guarantee it, but there were 2 entrances to the stage, check when Snoop & Quincy jet, Snoop goes left, Quincy goes Right. When they fight, Dre goes backstage behind the curtain to the right, then later reappears from that same side when he gets his award.
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acgrundy.. it was that "this is how we do" fresh 83' song wasnt it?
i'll tell ya one thing thats not been said... how pissed off suge gotta be? you got..
- dre getting a life achievement award
- snoop giving him that shit
- g-unit getting best group
- snoop performing his current # 1 single with pharell
- game + 50 cent performing the next shit to blow...
- eminem performing like toy soldiers.. wonder what he did with the suge diss?
i mean.. how dominant is aftermath/shady/g-unit/doggystyle in all this?
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What's funny to me is, how is Suge still invited to all these events? LOL. 1. He hasn't done shit in years, 2. He's known to cause trouble.
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wheres good old lil_lee when u need her?
she used to swear blind snoop vs suge was all BS and that it was just for profit.. lol..
she ended up leaving here after a fight over that.. haha...
I dunno.. there are 1000s of people there.. Murder INC was there too..
someones gonna speak about this on wax or in a interview or something soon..
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First prediction is gonna be Buck.
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What's funny to me is, how is Suge still invited to all these events? LOL. 1. He hasn't done shit in years, 2. He's known to cause trouble.
i was thinking the same shit... Suge ain't done shit since they all left.
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That shows Suge is STILL relevant in the industry.
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people too scared not to invite suge. sorry but suge knight is probably the one person I would not want to be on the shit list of.
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crazy ass shit though.
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maybe he wasnt even at the awards?
Unless that was a stunt double performing with 50.
lol, my bad, with all that fighting shit I totally forgot about game and 50 performin.. I never saw it.
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Eminem was performing Toy Soldiers? hm, then he must've been there too, yet he's not in the video. Not that I expect him to fight like Game, but he's not even anywhere near, just like Game. So obviously not all of them were there at that particular time.
Hm, what did they do with the censored part of Like Toy Soldiers? "without ever mentioning *Suge* " ?
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^^cause it's not him/...watch the video again...you can see him with his white ass buck teeth lol..he's wearing a black sweater with a black hat and that white shit under the cap
yup, you got it right..that aint 50 punchin dude..he's in the back dressed in all black watching. and dre aint in the video at all..thats someone else standing in the back im pretty sure
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funniest thing is the bouncer that was protecting the was the first to leave the place lol right after they turned him around he fell on the ground and juss left the scene from the right lol
lol i just noticed..that was hella funny
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Eminem didn't perform Like Toy Soldiers, he wasn't even there, he was in London.
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^^cause it's not him/...watch the video again...you can see him with his white ass buck teeth lol..he's wearing a black sweater with a black hat and that white shit under the cap
yup, you got it right..that aint 50 punchin dude..he's in the back dressed in all black watching. and dre aint in the video at all..thats someone else standing in the back im pretty sure
Dog that is 50 Cent and that is Dr Dre. Check the video from ABC where they show the very beginning of it. The video starts off with Dre and some other dude getting out of their seat to chase the dude that snuffed him. In that QUICK scene u can see everyone at 50s table rise up and 50 is NOT wearing the same thing he wore during the performance. He has on that grey and white sweat suit. U can also see DJ Quik stand up for a brief second. Quik was sitting next to some chick at Dres table.
As far as Dre goes, thats clearly him at the top left kicking the shit out of dude. LOL......Classic Shit! Also, in one of the videos u can see Dre standing around and u can tell that its him. Trust me, I watched this shit for half my damn shift at work dog and i'd put money that i'm on point!
PS: I've been apart of this and the Dre2001 board since 1999, I just never posted. I just like reading the different threads. Anyway, good shit yall. Props to Overseer for keepin it going! Latez
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well, one things for sure, g-unit dont seem to be all talk and that dude is probably wonderin what the fuck he was thinkin hittin Dre after getting the beating of a lifetime
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From what I can c..
- Yayo throws first chair.
- 50 is dude next to banks in all black with white bandana under cap. its his stance, you can just tell, and u can c the teeth too.
- Buck is dude with blade, u see him jab and then run as the brawl breaks
- Dre, it looks like his stance before he hits dude with a 1,2 but when I pause the video, his face dont look rite, and i notice he is wearing a white vest/tee under black top (he dont have the white tee on in the photo with Game & Quik)
so who is dude who goes in after 'Johnson' (punk who succa punched Dre) who people think is 50?
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im pretty much certain that the dude with the black hat & grey/white jacket is 50, the other dude in black could be sha money, the dude in the grey/black has a big ass watch like 50 always wears
there's more than 1 g-unit person with a knife though also. stop it at 7 seconds, he's in the top right of the screen, wearin a white tshirt and has a hat on
game been talkin a whole lot of shit too, where the fuck was he in all this?
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- 50 is dude next to banks in all black with white bandana under cap. its his stance, you can just tell, and u can c the teeth too.
thats what i think....even wears that same chain with the cross
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yeah, and when the dude who peeps think is 50 is layin into dude when being held back by the runaway bodyguard, u see a photoflash, pause it when it flashes and you can see the dude in grey jacket aint Curtis
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yeah, and when the dude who peeps think is 50 is layin into dude when being held back by the runaway bodyguard, u see a photoflash, pause it when it flashes and you can see the dude in grey jacket aint Curtis
Got it. Yall are right, my bad. Ima take my L like a man. I'd be a broke muthaphucka had somebody took my bet. Hahaha..............Anyway, I do see 50 in the black standing by Dre at the end when the snuffer is getting stomped. BTW, can we all agree that the guy kicking the shit out of the snuffer is in fact Dr Dre?
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Yeah you guys are right, 50 is the one with all black and the black hat, with the white bandana under it.
I dunno who else thought it was hilarious when the fat bodyguard got knocked to the floor LMAO :loser:
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yayo = they guy in khaki with a hat on that throws the first chari
Dre = Nigga in all black
50 = Nigga with the black hat and grey hoody with a white tee.
Buck = Nigga with the hat and grey hood.
i'll say this agian..50 is wearing all black!!!!!!!!!!!!...look at the god damn teeth...they huge!
and DRE isn't there at ALL
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Man I wish we coulda saw what happened backstage because right before it cuts off u see 50 and other dudes laying into dude as hes trying to crawl away LMAO!
This nigga picked one hell of a nite to earn his stripes
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But Dre musta lost a lot of weight and got a more skinny lookin face if he;s the dude layin into Johnson at the end.
He has! Like I said above, I noticed when they first showed him in the crowd "Damn, he's lost a lot of weight" because his face looks a lot thinner. Here's the pic again
(http://home.comcast.net/~naasir05/Game12.jpg)
& here's an older one when he was fatter
(http://www.dr-dre.com/images/pics/misc/38.gif)
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Trim Spa baby lol
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50 dont do shit he in black he gets a kik in but thats about in from what i can see but he is defenetly in black
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^^^I know. That's what I find funny. The guy who talks all the shit about being down, was nowhere to be found. Young Buck is the quiet as kept dude, and he was right in the mix. LOL @ Game. I already can predict his explanation. "Man, a nigga was right there trying to help Dre, but I got held back. But, had I been there, I would've killed that nigga!"
It's idiots like you who make most rappers spin this gangsta shit...
nothing tough about being in a fight, as Young Buck has proved, its pretty dumb, especially during an Award Show being taped for the entire nation?!
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long time lurker... first post... man this shit is crazy.... still can't figure out if two tone dude is 50 or if it's dude towards the end standing next to banks in all black with a white badana under his cap... also, if you notice at around 11 second dude who looks like dre grabs the microphone stand and throws it at the puncher.... it's 11 to 13 seconds.... when homie gets out the hospital someone is going to handle him for sure- peace
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Eminem didn't perform Like Toy Soldiers, he wasn't even there, he was in London.
aight.. someone said that on row forums.. dont always believe what u read :)
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yayo = they guy in khaki with a hat on that throws the first chari
Dre = Nigga in all black
50 = Nigga with the black hat and grey hoody with a white tee.
Buck = Nigga with the hat and grey hood.
i'll say this agian..50 is wearing all black!!!!!!!!!!!!...look at the god damn teeth...they huge!
and DRE isn't there at ALL
Dre is there u fuckin moron. hes the guy in all black that kicks and punches dude towards the end of the video. im not even gonna argue with your dumbass about it.
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I got no clue for 50 is now, lol.
Watch the mtv video, with the audio.
As somebody else has said, a girl goes:
Michelle, Michelle....this is Suge.
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theres still 1 person extra if 50 the 1 in grey which i think is him then whos the 1 in black next to lloyd banks who gets a kick in
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the one in all black with the white bandana under cap is 50, im convinced. the one in grey who goes for Johnson when guard is protectin him is an unknown to me. but if you dont think dude in black with cross chain is 50 then you must notta seen 50 all over your TVs for the last 2 years.
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whosa the dude in gray then he looks like a pretty big dude who else could it be sha money stat was busta there lol
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(http://www.win-the-lotto.com/u/04/322/09/3brawl.JPG)
anyone who is telling me that this guy, who the arrow points at is not 50cent, is out of his mind!
any1 got link for that abc vid?
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It's idiots like you who make most rappers spin this gangsta shit...
nothing tough about being in a fight, as Young Buck has proved, its pretty dumb, especially during an Award Show being taped for the entire nation?!
It's morons like you who let these fake ass gangstas get away with doing nothing. Fuck it, Buck rarely brags about how hard he is, he proved he was down. 50 proved he was down and this guy is a fuckin' worldwide star. Yayo even proved he was down and hes on probation. Game claims he'll ride on anyone, but his boss gets punched and his ENTIRE crew is scrappin', yet he's not there. If you're gonna talk all this gangsta shit, at least live up to it. Say what you want, but I'm speaking the truth.
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anyone who is telling me that this guy, who the arrow points at is not 50cent, is out of his mind!
any1 got link for that abc vid?
looks like 50 to me.
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It's kind of hard to tell, but I'm still convinced the guy swingin' like crazy is 50. When 50 first won with G-unit earlier in the night, he was wearing a white t-shirt that said "I Got A Gun, Kelly Run" (No, I'm not shitting you)... then, when he performed he was wearing Grey? Or something like that. I didn't see him wearing black all night.
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me too... plus the fact the every report everywhere says its 50.....
as for game.. maybe he was takin a piss when it went down.. who knows.. lol..
i'm still not convinced the guy in black is dre.. but i know people who saw that cnn report said it was dr dre..
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Alright, I found more pics. This is what 50 was wearing when he performed
(http://web.wireimage.com/images/thumbnail/3881930.jpg)
This is what 50 was wearing earlier, when he won with G-unit, you can see the big ass "I got a gun, Kelly Run" shirt on
(http://web.wireimage.com/images/thumbnail/3881384.jpg)
This is what Dre was wearing the whole night
(http://web.wireimage.com/images/thumbnail/3881941.jpg)
Maybe the little white label on the chest could help i.d. him in the fight?
Here's more from the speech, you can see he's thinner now
(http://web.wireimage.com/images/thumbnail/3882089.jpg)
(http://web.wireimage.com/images/thumbnail/3887650.jpg)
Here's Lloyd Banks
(http://web.wireimage.com/images/thumbnail/3887828.jpg/img]
And again with Yayo?
[img]http://web.wireimage.com/images/thumbnail/3887932.jpg)
Here's RBX
(http://web.wireimage.com/images/thumbnail/3883253.jpg)
The guy on the right they're describing as Yayo? I thought he was in jail.
(http://web.wireimage.com/images/thumbnail/3888015.jpg)
Here's Suge & Petey Pablo
(http://web.wireimage.com/images/thumbnail/3887280.jpg)
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yayo aint in jail.. lol
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Alright, now I don't think it's Dre. LOL. You can clear as day see a white logo on his chest, even when he's on stage, and he was wearing that all night, but in the fight, there's no white logo on the guy's black shirt that's beating the guy down @ the end.
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It's idiots like you who make most rappers spin this gangsta shit...
nothing tough about being in a fight, as Young Buck has proved, its pretty dumb, especially during an Award Show being taped for the entire nation?!
It's morons like you who let these fake ass gangstas get away with doing nothing. Fuck it, Buck rarely brags about how hard he is, he proved he was down. 50 proved he was down and this guy is a fuckin' worldwide star. Yayo even proved he was down and hes on probation. Game claims he'll ride on anyone, but his boss gets punched and his ENTIRE crew is scrappin', yet he's not there. If you're gonna talk all this gangsta shit, at least live up to it. Say what you want, but I'm speaking the truth.
4real...folk...chuck and 50 shoulda been the 1st 2 niggas defendin dre...not buck nor.. banks or yayo..i see he is all talk now.. this is my second time seein him bitch up....he coulda got up on stage wit snoop and after snoop said what he said..about leave dre alone and his crew or whatever.....he coulda said yea!!! or sumthin...
this nigga actin like tre...fonk pop off.. he screamin.. dough... let me out!!..this nigga bet not bump his gums about this shit on wax...4real
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^Thank you.
On a side note, L.A. will not be holding any Hip Hop award shows. LOL. First the Source Awards, now the Vibe Awards end up in violence. Miami and New York will probably be the spot for these shows from now on.
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yayo = they guy in khaki with a hat on that throws the first chari
Dre = Nigga in all black
50 = Nigga with the black hat and grey hoody with a white tee.
Buck = Nigga with the hat and grey hood.
i'll say this agian..50 is wearing all black!!!!!!!!!!!!...look at the god damn teeth...they huge!
and DRE isn't there at ALL
Dre is there u fuckin moron. hes the guy in all black that kicks and punches dude towards the end of the video. im not even gonna argue with your dumbass about it.
no he's not you fuckin dumbass..the guy kicking isn't dre...check the pictures..they do a close up of his face...that aint dre..and check what he's wearing...it shows he's wearing white under that all black...dre isn't wearing anything white under when he accepts the award
anyone who is telling me that this guy, who the arrow points at is not 50cent, is out of his mind!
any1 got link for that abc vid?
it aint 50 cent...check the other guy...that dude is just too small
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im not even gonna argue about that was it 50 or not, anymore.
all i gonna say, u know stars like 50 might have 3-5 different clothing sets with him at awards, u remember how many times eminem changed clothes was it at mtv music awards few years back, he was like 5 times at stage and everytime with different clothes. but if this shit went down like minutes-seconds after game's and 50's performance, i dont know then... still he looks so much 50, and lots of sources says the same.
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Alright, now I don't think it's Dre. LOL. You can clear as day see a white logo on his chest, even when he's on stage, and he was wearing that all night, but in the fight, there's no white logo on the guy's black shirt that's beating the guy down @ the end.
Trauma - I must of watched these clips over a hundred times at work man. I can't tell u how many times I flip flopped on who was who lol. When I watched the clips on CNN and ABC the other nite, I coulda sworn the dude in black is Dre. He's wearing something very similar, same skin complexion, same hair cut, and everything else so I assumed it was him. Now, that u point out that white logo on his shirt it makes sense that it isn't him. I think the only time u see Dre is on the ABC 7 clip at the very beginning when he gets out of his chair to chase dude down.
As for 50, he's not the guy in the grey/white sweat suit going wild. I thought that was him at first also. 50 is standing next to the Dre look alike at the very end. U can even see Dres twin say something to 50 right before he starts swingin and stompin on dude. 50 has on a hat and a white door rag under it. U can tell thats 50 if u look closely. Like somebody else said, u can even see his trademark teeth when hes cheesin. LOL
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As for 50, he's not the guy in the grey/white sweat suit going wild. I thought that was him at first also. 50 is standing next to the Dre look alike at the very end. U can even see Dres twin say something to 50 right before he starts swingin and stompin on dude. 50 has on a hat and a white door rag under it. U can tell thats 50 if u look closely. Like somebody else said, u can even see his trademark teeth when hes cheesin. LOL
yea, i noticed the dude (who just aint dre full stop imo) say something to 50 before he lays into Johnson. Looked like they were laughin about something, then look at 50's hands, he does the motion you do wen u got a knife in ure hand lol but i dunno if he has a blade or not, isnt clear- but look closely at his hand.
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someone needs to get an interview with 1 of these rappers to get them to id themselves lol
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looks like g-unit meant wat the said so if you fuck wit the doctor youll get picked apart like junkyard lol i think that was a buck line
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It's kind of hard to tell, but I'm still convinced the guy swingin' like crazy is 50. When 50 first won with G-unit earlier in the night, he was wearing a white t-shirt that said "I Got A Gun, Kelly Run" (No, I'm not shitting you)... then, when he performed he was wearing Grey? Or something like that. I didn't see him wearing black all night.
Naw it aint 50 believe me, Ill prove it in the next picture..
but you're right he had at least 4 different clothin sets...here is another one besides the others you posted
(http://web.wireimage.com/images/thumbnail/3882905.jpg)
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clearly shows 50...just look at his teeth..lol..its pretty obvious..i agree this shot here doesnt prove it but watch the video and keep lookin at him...
and whoever thinks thats dre next to 50 is crazy...dude punching him is not dre, he's not in the video at all im tellin you...
oh well it doesnt really matter anyway whos who
(http://www.westcoast2k.net/images/vibe.jpg)
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lol this is from hiphopdx says game got involved
Vibe Violence (Part 2)
Wednesday - November 17, 2004
Verbal Walker
Now that some of the smoke has cleared since the wild night at the Vibe awards, a few things have been straightened out in the aftermath of the magazines second annual awards show. Dr. Dre indeed got attacked on his way to the stage to receive his legend award, which caused a fight in the audience area. He was reportedly approached by a man pretending to ask for an autograph when he began punching Dre. Members from the G-Unit (including Lloyd Banks, Game and 50 Cent) rushed to the aid of Dre and all hell broke loose. Chair tossing and punches were thrown and at the end of the scuffle many fingers were pointed at long time Dr. Dre nemesis Suge Knight. But according to www.mahoganygirl.com
“…they turn the monitors back on and who is the camera pointed at??? SUGE KNIGHT. Who was just sitting there at his table not moving an inch. LOL I mean they left the camera on Suge for like 10 seconds for no reason... and he didn't move a muscle...” and continues “Suge starts talking about how people would blame him but…‘He had nothing to do with this’ He gave Dre props and said that tonight wasn't the night for something like this...”
While initial reports indeed stated that Suge may have had something to do with the attack on Dr. Dre, he has since denounced any involvement whatsoever.
Dr. Dre proceeded to receive his award, while looking shaken up from the attack, and stated "No one's gonna stop me from doing what I do."
Another issue that was up in the air was the reported stabbing of an individual during the fight. The reports are now a fact that a young man was stabbed during the fight and now police have issued a warrant for the arrest of G-Unit’s Young Buck for his suspected involvement in the stabbing. Buck was one of three men seen on a videotape of the fight with a knife (which makes you think how did he get a knife in there in the first place) and is said to have attacked 26 year old Jimmy James Johnson. Johnson was rushed to the hospital suffering a collapsed lung. He is in stable condition. Young Buck has been asked to turn himself in but has yet to respond to the accusations.
Later on in the evening Jadakiss, Anthony Hamilton, Styles and Common took to the stage to perform the hit song “Why” as Common put an exclamation point on the night with his final lines “Why did O.D.B. have to meet the lord?/why did we (have to) come and rip it at the Vibe awards?” Why indeed.
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Interesting. I really wanna get to see footage or transcript of Dre's speech.
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wow you'd think some of you guys are crime scene investagators
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SGV:
Morons like me let them get away with it?! lol First I thought we were gonna have a proper conversation, but if you're too worried about making rappers (see Entertainers) prove what they say is true then have fun with that. EVERY rapper lies, just to what extent is the question. So there was a huge fight, and Buck pulled out a knife so now he is the king of the street? Seemed like no one was gonna get hurt except one dude who started it all, so how gangsta is that?
And I'm sure Young Buck sleeps well at night, because someone from Dubcc rates him high on the Gangsta-omotor...
Seriously, Game shoulda been the first protecting Dre... we would think so, but in reality he should be the last, as should any of the other rappers signed to Dre. Bodyguards n security is for that. This is G Unit proving how dumb they are, not how down they are. Yayo breaks his curfew the day he got out and goes back. Now he's out and Buck pulls a knife out in the middle of a taped Award show... nice one morons!
This is why violence will never leave Hip Hop, coz fans like you WANT it... Im not even defending Game here, what Im defending is values and logic, neither which we seem to agree on...
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Oh shit, I spotted Game in there.
He's the black dude in the black. With the hat.
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wow you'd think some of you guys are crime scene investagators
LOL, I was thinkin the same shit man. We got our own CSI division up in here. I can't clown though cuz i've been doin the same thing. After two days of watching these clips over and over again, playing them in slow motion, pausing them, taking snap shots, I can now identify just about everyone. Before anyone talks shit, It's either this or go back to doing nothing at my job...............Hmmmmmmmm?
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Later on in the evening Jadakiss, Anthony Hamilton, Styles and Common took to the stage to perform the hit song “Why” as Common put an exclamation point on the night with his final lines “Why did O.D.B. have to meet the lord?/why did we (have to) come and rip it at the Vibe awards?” Why indeed.
That's class
Also, anybody wanna speculate on whether the guy who we all thought was Dre is in fact his brother? Looks like him in the face, he's the right size, and he's wearing the right clothes. Plus, when the video first starts and the camera's spinnin, you can see him near Dre's table from the beginning.
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clearly shows 50...just look at his teeth..lol..its pretty obvious..i agree this shot here doesnt prove it but watch the video and keep lookin at him...
lol lots of people have big teeth.
The guy in grey/white w. black cap looks more like 50, and they both have the same white (platinum ?) watch:
(http://img100.exs.cx/img100/3849/cap111.jpg)
(http://img100.exs.cx/img100/2690/3brawl.jpg)
Most artists who perform changes clothes after the performance..
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(http://img100.exs.cx/img100/2690/3brawl.jpg)
This is not 50 cent. MTV showed him and Llyod banks and put a highlight around them. 50 is the dude in the black hat with the white bandana.
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Also, anybody wanna speculate on whether the guy who we all thought was Dre is in fact his brother? Looks like him in the face, he's the right size, and he's wearing the right clothes. Plus, when the video first starts and the camera's spinnin, you can see him near Dre's table from the beginning.
To my knowledge, other than his half brother Warren G I think Dre only had one other brother (Tyree) He was killed back when Dre was in NWA, so other than him I dont recall him having other siblings. I could be wrong though.................But yeah, I coulda sworn that was Dre myself. If u didnt break out the pics of him with the white logo, I still would be claiming that was Dre.
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^ That's who I was talking about, it looks like Warren G to me, plus he was in the audience wearing all black earlier in the night, and he would be seated probably near Dre's table, which is where this guy in the video came from.
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(http://img100.exs.cx/img100/2690/3brawl.jpg)
This is not 50 cent. MTV showed him and Llyod banks and put a highlight around them. 50 is the dude in the black hat with the white bandana.
speak on it, been trying to tell em
wow you'd think some of you guys are crime scene investagators
yea its my 2nd major after webcite crippin
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ok take screen grabs with updated shots then pls... :P
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ok take screen grabs with updated shots then pls... :P
of what?
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like we did with arrows pointing at people! :D
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lol who the hell is this
(http://img100.exs.cx/img100/2690/3brawl.jpg)
dude then? some random negro who felt like punchin'?
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dude then? some random negro who felt like punchin'?
WTF?
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like we did with arrows pointing at people! :D
If you can find me a program where I can transfer files from my TIVO to the computer I'll up a BUNCH of shit that hasn't seen the internet yet.
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dude then? some random negro who felt like punchin'?
WTF?
lol who the hell is this dude then? some random negro who felt like punchin'?
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like we did with arrows pointing at people! :D
If you can find me a program where I can transfer files from my TIVO to the computer I'll up a BUNCH of shit that hasn't seen the internet yet.
tv capture card... ;)
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^ That's who I was talking about, it looks like Warren G to me, plus he was in the audience wearing all black earlier in the night, and he would be seated probably near Dre's table, which is where this guy in the video came from.
this passed thru my head too, thinkin it was Warren. But I wasn't sure if he was at the awards. But dude sure as hell looks more like Warren than Dre.
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so young buck turned himself in, 500k bailk i think. www.allhiphop.com
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^ That's who I was talking about, it looks like Warren G to me, plus he was in the audience wearing all black earlier in the night, and he would be seated probably near Dre's table, which is where this guy in the video came from.
this passed thru my head too, thinkin it was Warren. But I wasn't sure if he was at the awards. But dude sure as hell looks more like Warren than Dre.
warren g was def there.. but the red carpet pics on wireimage show him in all white