West Coast Connection Forum
DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: Meho on November 12, 2006, 04:54:57 AM
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Its been a month since Bansk got released and I must say that Rotten Apple is way better than Hunger For More.
The vibe is great, has that consistent NY, grimey sound to it, whilst I felt like on Hunger For More Banks tried to create a universal album and some track were completley out of place.
Some great street records on this one like Rotten Apple and especially Get Clapped which is NY rap at its finest. The chick track "Help" is by far the best GUnit chick track they have done. Even Hands Up fits great on the cd, since its the only uptempo joint on the album. Theres not 1 song I skip.
The only minus this album has is that 2,3 tracks Banks delivery is awful.
Great replay value. I'd give this a 4.25/5
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It's a shame that this album was poorly marketed because it had a really strong first single but somehow it quickly faded off the charts. Overall I liked this album just as much as HFM. RA was definitely darker which I liked and IMO Banks came harder lyrically on this one.
Rotten Apple is not a weak album or a flop, it's a solid sophomore that failed market-wise.
4/5
Favs: Playboy 2 / Hands Up / Know The Deal / Stranger / Iceman (I hope this is the 3rd single) / Get Clapped / Help
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or a flop, it's a solid sophomore that failed market-wise.
uhh it´s a flop, whether or not it´s a good album doesn´t matter in that aspect.
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i need to listen to it more but it does seem more like an album rather than a bunch of singles thrown together like on hunger for more.
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The only track I really don't like from it is "One Night Stand"... think that should've gotten replaced by "Life" (ft. Spider Loc) which would fit the rest of the album much better.. that's the only track I skip..
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As far as east coast rap is concerned it is Banks, Meth and Busta so far to me. Banks' album is very dark and morbid, something that has been missing from NY for a bit. I still bump HFM but that is more of a crusing record, this is just some gutter shit right here. G-Unit's sound is becoming more like this album. Dark. Same with Blood Money. Lyrically I do give the edge to this over his first one.
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Yup id say its better than Hunger for more, still not a GREAT album and its just Banks is so boring i really cant take him seriously as a top rapper. I mean Mase has the same flow but for some reason Mase uses it right and i dont get bored of him after 10 bars.
IMO
3.5 outta 5
Rotten Apple > The Massacre
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Haha, no one even gave a fuck about that single. Banks is boring as hell. Fabolous may put me to sleep, but Banks puts me in a coma.
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This album sucked, so did "Hunger for More" this guy is boring and has no personality. That is why he didn't sell.
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i got banks album in the mp3 deck ready to go... but i got a few other albums that need attention before banks will be heard... but now that i heard some positive incentive, i might just check it out sooner..
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You see Banks new video? wow what wackness.
Banks used to be ill with the quotables on his old mixtape shit, now his whole style just makes niggas snooze.
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I love the grimey feel to rotten apple.
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Rotten Apple beats sounded like they was made during Mobbs Deeps Blood money studio sessions. Really wacky shit.
Banks just sounds dull.
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Rotten Apple beats sounded like they was made during Mobbs Deeps Blood money studio sessions. Really wacky shit.
Banks just sounds dull.
Both Blood Money and Rotten Apple are street as hell. Yet people still complain.
Its the same shit when Mobb Deep dropped "Put Them In Their Place" and people were bitching about being to street and that they should have a club joint for their 1st single.
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^lol
yeah it's damn near impossible to impress everyone... thats why it's just best for an artist to do what they want to do... fuck tryin to impress anyone, because there always be a jackass to complain.
tough titties, but thats how it is.
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I thought the album was totally average - a few of the beats were nice but Banks was crap on nearly every track.
There was nothing here to rival 'Til The End' on HFM - that was Banks at his best IMO.
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1 month later...I still prefer "Hunger For More". The fact this album is "grimier" makes little difference...it just ain't nothing but average East Coast shit to me.
Promotion was not this album's problem - G-Unit is simply losing steam, so it's inevitable that this album would flop.
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I thought the album was totally average - a few of the beats were nice but Banks was crap on nearly every track.
There was nothing here to rival 'Til The End' on HFM - that was Banks at his best IMO.
As in what ? Lyrics ? Hell no. Lyrically hes better on this one than on HFM. The only thing that changed in a negative way is delivery, but that has never been his strong weapon
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I thought the album was totally average - a few of the beats were nice but Banks was crap on nearly every track.
There was nothing here to rival 'Til The End' on HFM - that was Banks at his best IMO.
As in what ? Lyrics ? Hell no. Lyrically hes better on this one than on HFM. The only thing that changed in a negative way is delivery, but that has never been his strong weapon
Why does he need 2 explain himself? Let him have his opinion, you dont need 2 defend EVERYONE on gunit.
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I thought the album was totally average - a few of the beats were nice but Banks was crap on nearly every track.
There was nothing here to rival 'Til The End' on HFM - that was Banks at his best IMO.
As in what ? Lyrics ? Hell no. Lyrically hes better on this one than on HFM. The only thing that changed in a negative way is delivery, but that has never been his strong weapon
Why does he need 2 explain himself? Let him have his opinion, you dont need 2 defend EVERYONE on gunit.
really, stop eating tony yayos asshole
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Just responding purely to what you said about the criticism that Mobb Deep's album got, for me their production is good but they can't rap for shit anymore, the flow is just horrible and the lyrics even worse, it's hard to believe these were the same guys who made the infamous and hell on earth, havent listened to murder muzik but they should give up, they really are fucking up the name they had.
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This album sucked, so did "Hunger for More" this guy is boring and has no personality. That is why he didn't sell.
I agree wit Rik
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I thought the album was totally average - a few of the beats were nice but Banks was crap on nearly every track.
There was nothing here to rival 'Til The End' on HFM - that was Banks at his best IMO.
As in what ? Lyrics ? Hell no. Lyrically hes better on this one than on HFM. The only thing that changed in a negative way is delivery, but that has never been his strong weapon
Why does he need 2 explain himself? Let him have his opinion, you dont need 2 defend EVERYONE on gunit.
Because its normal to say youre not feeling Banks or his style but to say he is wack is a no no.
Lyrically he still shits on most of the commercial rappers out there.
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I thought the album was totally average - a few of the beats were nice but Banks was crap on nearly every track.
There was nothing here to rival 'Til The End' on HFM - that was Banks at his best IMO.
As in what ? Lyrics ? Hell no. Lyrically hes better on this one than on HFM. The only thing that changed in a negative way is delivery, but that has never been his strong weapon
Why does he need 2 explain himself? Let him have his opinion, you dont need 2 defend EVERYONE on gunit.
Because its normal to say youre not feeling Banks or his style but to say he is wack is a no no.
Lyrically he still shits on most of the commercial rappers out there.
jim jones is a better rapper than banks.
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You see Banks new video? wow what wackness.
The video sucks, but that song is still nice, if you'd just turn your tv off for a few minutes and check out some albums instead you can talk...
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I thought the album was totally average - a few of the beats were nice but Banks was crap on nearly every track.
There was nothing here to rival 'Til The End' on HFM - that was Banks at his best IMO.
As in what ? Lyrics ? Hell no. Lyrically hes better on this one than on HFM. The only thing that changed in a negative way is delivery, but that has never been his strong weapon
Why does he need 2 explain himself? Let him have his opinion, you dont need 2 defend EVERYONE on gunit.
Because its normal to say youre not feeling Banks or his style but to say he is wack is a no no.
Lyrically he still shits on most of the commercial rappers out there.
I meant delivery - on some of the songs he sounds like he's struggling to stay with the beat to me.
The problem than is that when the delivery is so poor I can't be bothered to listen to the lyrics. Even having said that, from what I recall they were nothing special. Banks is simply not an impressive lyricist in my opinion. It's the same old gun talk and 'clever' similes.
I'd be surprised if I ever pop 'Rotten Apple' in the deck again to be fair - I really think his first was better.
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Sooooooo what's the numbers look like? how many has it sold?
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the fuck!! this is a 3.25 outta 5 album..........4.25/5.............u by yourself their homie, probably some banks fans may agree wit ya but noone in their right mind gone give this anything mo than a 3.25/5............hunger for more was garbage, but on some tracks, the vibe was aight, this album is maybe mo consistant from top to bottom but its still terrible.......
lyrically banks is average, yes no one doubts he drops nice metaphors but how far is that gon get him, he gotta connect with the listener, drop shit people listen to, that is true great lyricism, not a whole album marketing gunit, how much oney he got, yes their is stories in the album to, but he has nothing to talk about, he has no replay value, no charisma, his delivery is terrible.........
banks is wack.......like the other homie said, if fab puts a nigga to sleep, than this nigga gon kill you.........
people who go on like banks is amazing lyrically kill me cuz they dont know shit, yes he use to have mad real potential to become a real nice lyricist, but he went off track big time..........hunger for more, now this.........and on beg for mercy buck outshone him...........his over.....he didnt go forwards, that nigga went rolling down a hill.
its like people who say obie is a amazing lyricist......that shit is joke, yeah he a nice writer.....but its these white boys who only listen to shady records who go on like his shit is amazing, nobody else really feeling obie, he killed some tracks on 2nd rounds on me, but everyrapper, wack or dope kills a few tracks per album.........these niggas aint shit
if you wanna speak about gunit, its all about buck.........but i dunno if he gon follow up straight outta cashville with mo heat because this time people expect him to drop heat, last time noone was expecting anything from him. Thats what impressed me hella about game, he came through on his second album against all odds, imma see if buck, with everything he has at his disposal, can drop heat 2nd time round..........and 50 should def drop a solid album.......he been working on his album for a long time
oh and about blood money, most mobb fans will tell you this is arguebaly their worst effort.......it was garbage......since when can a street album or a grimey album not be wack.......yes blood money wasnt pop or real commercial......but it was pretty weak for these niggas to move to gunit for........album sounded washed up top to bottom so did havoc and p......havoc was weak behind the boards......aight on the mic.....p was dissapointing on the mic
peace
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i finished listening to the album
i didnt think it was as bad as everyone made it out to be
but its also not as special others made it out to be
some songs were terrible that i forwarded through after bout 30 seconds (e.g. Playboy 2)
others were pretty good (e.g. Addicted)
id prolly say this is a 3 or 3.5 outta 5