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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: rayallen0 on April 12, 2012, 02:27:50 AM
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so the race has narrowed down to 5.
Tony Parker: I don’t see him getting many votes, but you will see him get a few as a nod to his solid, veteran play.
Kevin Durant: Look for voters to show Durant plenty of love, but his generous team-first nature could ironically hurt his chances for an individual award.
Kobe Bryant: Bryant’s accomplishments this season will most likely be overlooked by voters, in favor of James and Durant.
Kevin Love: I predict a solid third place finish in the voting for Love and a secure spot among basketball’s elite.
Lebron James: While voters certainly have an impressive list to choose from, many expect James to win his third MVP award.
who you got?
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It will be LBJ. Most physically dominate player this year. His truly in his prime, still ain't clutch, but if he's on, he doesn't need to be because the Heat are blowing out teams.
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Allen Iverson.
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Bron for sure
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Gotta go with KD this year. Bron still needs to win more when it counts.
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The way I look at it, the Thunder play their absolute best when Westbrook is on. When Wade is out the Heat are like 10-1.
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The way I look at it, the Thunder play their absolute best when Westbrook is on. When Wade is out the Heat are like 10-1.
I see what you did there.
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The way I look at it, the Thunder play their absolute best when Westbrook is on. When Wade is out the Heat are like 10-1.
The Heat also have a better score when Lebron isn't the lead scorer. So go figure.
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lebron stays chokin....missed free throw last night that woulda sealed the game. durant is s beast, but westbrook has taken on a lot of the load this season, almost 50/50. kobe is the most overlooked player in quite some time. seriously, bynum is shooting under 40% since kobe has been out. he was above 60% with kobe on the court. the guy does so much more than just score, which most people don't even see. the way he draws defenses and opens up opportunities for the bigs is extremely underrated. i'd say about 50% of bynum's looks are spoon-fed from kobe drawing double and sometimes even triple teams.. the defense knows kobe can beat u in many ways; face up, off the dribble, back-to-the-basket, drivin to the whole. no one in the league keeps the defense as honest as Kobe Bryant, and it just goes to show how valuable he is to his team in comparison to other players in the league. of course, mvp voters have never given kobe the benefit of the vote, so the winner will most likely be between lebron and durant, which isn't right, but the mvp voting is a popularity contest, not an honorable award, so it don't even really matter..
the finals mvp trophy, now, that's another story..
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larry bird
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larry bird
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I bet it will go to Durant, mostly because LeBron already has 2.
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and because lebron stays chokin' in 4th quarters....for a player of his caliber to have 3 mvp's would be a joke of epic proportions.
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Well, Rose got it last year ... but I see what you're saying though. LeBron went for the last 17 points with Wade out... maybe they should just switch lol
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they should just shut either wade or lebron down...i think the team is better when it's only one of them on the court, as opposed to both.
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Bron has it in the bag.
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and because lebron stays chokin' in 4th quarters....for a player of his caliber to have 3 mvp's would be a joke of epic proportions.
meanwhile Kobe only has 1 ;)
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and because lebron stays chokin' in 4th quarters....for a player of his caliber to have 3 mvp's would be a joke of epic proportions.
meanwhile Kobe only has 1 ;)
That shows how big of a joke the award really is. Any analyst will tell you that Kobe is one of the greatest of all time, yet they gave it to Steve Nash two years in a row.
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and because lebron stays chokin' in 4th quarters....for a player of his caliber to have 3 mvp's would be a joke of epic proportions.
meanwhile Kobe only has 1 ;)
That shows how big of a joke the award really is. Any analyst will tell you that Kobe is one of the greatest of all time, yet they gave it to Steve Nash two years in a row.
yeah the same Steve Nash who elevated his teams to winning the west division when Kobe's teams were going 34-48 and 42-40
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and how many rings does nash have? how many rings does lebron have?
nowadays, the mvp is like a consolation for the finals mvp.... it's like they give it to the player who has no shot to win it all or some shit.
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I've never seen a nigga more furious. No, they give it to the player whose most responsible for their teams winning. Kobe never won one because he had the help of the greatest center ever carrying them & then had a team who made it to the Finals three years in a row. Now you're really going to tell me that it's normal for a guy 10+ years in the league, falling out of his prime to carry a team to the finals three years in a row alone? Nope. Obviously the league isn't a cocksucking, blind fan & understands Pau, Bynum, Odom & Artest helped him all the way there. Nash led a team with Amare, Raja Bell & Leandro Barbosa to 60 wins. Like LeBron led a Cleveland team with Daniel "Booby" Gibson to 60+.
This year is only different because LeBron is just playing so out of his mind it isn't fair. People are already questioning if it's the greatest individual season ever. Kobe's just not an MVP. He's just a high volume shooter, who can take over games but needs two seven footers to crack above a five seed in the conference. Give Iverson in his prime Shaq & he'd probably still have a job lol. Same player, just bigger & ALWAYS had amazing talent around him when he won. Question NIK on those years when there was no Shaq, no Pau, no Bynum. He runs away from the topic faster than Brian does when you call him a deadbeat father.
I only take it away from Durant because everyone sees that Westbrook is holding Durant back. Westbrook controls the ball so much, Durant is almost more of a catch & shoot player than the dominating scorer he can be.
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lol...yes, biebs. kobe is like allen iverson. and lebron james is a clutch player who takes over in the most crucial moments of each game.
u know why u like lebron so much? cuz the boy has no balls...he's gutless and likes to dance like a fruity little faggot with his teammates. it really does explain why u feel such a deep connection with him.
as for kobe...he's won 5 rings. michael jordan won all his rings with scottie pippen, so are u gunna sit there and try to discredit him? it takes a great supporting cast to achieve great heights. kobe won back-to-back with pau gasol as a second fiddle. magic johnson had a greater second fiddle...larry bird had a greater second fiddle...michael jordan had a greater second fiddle. u see, kobe has done it with LESS than your average GOAT. so for u to sit there and discredit him, and compare him to allen iverson just so u can get a quick fix of his cock in ur mouth is pretty disturbing, biebs. when it comes to lebron, people are still questioning whether or not the heat is even his team! lmao. dude has stats and he has mad game, i'm not gunna lie...but when it comes to killer instinct and being a natural born leader, lbj just doesn't have it. if u really cant see that after all this time, then u must've gone blind from sippin all that skeet. honestly, i've chopped it up with the HUGEST lbj fans who will even admit that the boy consistently frustrates them from bein such a bitch down the stretch. you are the ONLY PERSON ON THE PLANET who doesn't acknowledge this...."there's no such thing as clutch". kill yaself.
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No Love for CP3?
Just look at the turnaround the Clippers have had, and no one in the NBA has more 4th Quarter points in the last 5 min. than him.
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and how many rings does nash have? how many rings does lebron have?
nowadays, the mvp is like a consolation for the finals mvp.... it's like they give it to the player who has no shot to win it all or some shit.
mvp = regular season
nash's teams were much better than La's you dingbat
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LOL @ NIK being forced to take it personal because he gets so angry. What a pussy.
But yeah, you can sit there & make up your fancy arguments. Nobody in the NBA was even competitive with Pau besides the Celtics & LeBron James...who had Daniel Gibson. Bottom line, Kobe could barely finish .500 without help. Somehow, magically, with the addition of Pau the Lakers went from getting booted in the first round to going to the Finals three years in a row. Kobe clearly just improved, despite you saying he was in his prime when he was all alone before Pau. I guess he just must of defied physics lol.
One day I'll have to do it. Just go back to the early Kobe/Pau days where you can be quoted probably a couple thousand times saying how the Lakers have undeniably the best roster in the NBA. Then right in the middle. Either prior to beating the Magic or just after it, you jumped that ship completely & decided to shit on any Laker that was good enough to take away from Kobe in Kobe/LeBron/MJ discussions. I mean, nigga...you said Bynum was the next Wilt Chamberlain lol.
But you're just a bitch because your logic is just proof of how hypocritical of a human being you are. Because LeBron can have a random game vs. the Jazz where he shoots 1-6 & 4 points in the fourth quarter & you'll be like, "SEE. I told you guys, he has no clutch in him. He's got no heart". But then he does something like he did the other night & you say, "Ah, that's just a regular season game. Only the playoffs count". Like you're a better rapper than you are talking about sports....and you're a fucking pathetic rapper lol.
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like, no way!
why do u keep bringing up kobe's years where he played with smush parker, luke walton, and kwame brown as the starters? what dont u get, kobe has still won NUMEROUS RINGS.. whether he's lost in the past or not is irrelevant to the argument. kobe has proven he has the will-power and the killer instinct to be an all-time goat. lebron STILL hasn't, after 9 years lmao....he even ran away from Cleveland for a chance to win a ring, knowing he couldn't take the pressure of being the main man. bottom line...u=gutless. lebron=gutless....u=lebron fan because u are gutless and can relate to him. u feel a connection to him, it's obvious. thats also why u get ur panties wet when anyone questions him WHEN HE DONT EVEN PLAY FOR UR TEAM. ease up, young cham. there is no pressure.
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if lebron played with smush parker and kwame brown the Cavs would have still won more than 42 games nik ;)
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I just talk sports, NIK. This section is dead, you post idiotic things, so naturally that's why it appears I "go in" or whatever you want to call it.
You're just talking out of your ass because Kobe legitimately was out the door, on the way the Chicago before they ran & got him Pau. You're more pathetic than I thought if you want to debate that.
& LeBron is clearly the main man, hence why he's just about a lock for MVP or an extremely close second runner-up. You can passing the ball to a wide open teammate "gutless", which is just further proof of how you're disgustingly on one man's dick to a level non-comprehensible by a straight human being.
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nik also says kobe is an iron man
iron men don't miss 6 games and let the Clippers back within 1/2 game of the division lead
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nik also says kobe is an iron man
iron men don't miss 6 games and let the Clippers back within 1/2 game of the division lead
He's blind. He doesn't see what is right in front of him. Shaq made the Lakers nearly unbeatable. Shaq left, all Kobe could do was tell Shaq how his ass tasted. He got angry & told upper management, "I'm leaving if you don't set me up to win", they stole Pau, drafted "the next Wilt Chamberlain", the rest of the league was mediocre outside of Boston, who beat them. Then they used that same weakened league to beat the Magic easily. Then played the same older Celtics team without Perkins & scrapped one out in seven. Now the league's gotten way more competitive & SOMEHOW "the greatest roster ever, arguably better than the 3-peat Lakers" isn't even supposed to make it to the Conference Finals, let alone the NBA finals. But it was Kobe's "killer instinct" to just have a better roster than the rest of the league.
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yeah Shaq was unguardable and the indisputable man on those 1999-2003 LAker teams
Kobe was a better Penny Hardaway
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I just talk sports, NIK. This section is dead, you post idiotic things, so naturally that's why it appears I "go in" or whatever you want to call it.
You're just talking out of your ass because Kobe legitimately was out the door, on the way the Chicago before they ran & got him Pau. You're more pathetic than I thought if you want to debate that.
& LeBron is clearly the main man, hence why he's just about a lock for MVP or an extremely close second runner-up. You can passing the ball to a wide open teammate "gutless", which is just further proof of how you're disgustingly on one man's dick to a level non-comprehensible by a straight human being.
kobe pushed management to make adjustments, he forced the hand, and it was the right move. he didnt wanna waste his prime years starting alongside smush, luke, and kwame, and at the same time, he loved the lakers and living in LA. he wanted a contending team BUILT AROUND HIM. a little different than calling a couple superstars and sayin "yo, lets team up so we don't have to face eachother!"......and lebron is not gutless because of one play, u dumb kid. it's his whole persona, it's who he is.....u are LITERALLY the only homo in the world who has failed to acknowledge this, and thats not even an exaggeration. i'm willin to bet money u jerk it after each time u make a post about lebron, u fucking faggot. u got so mad about what i said about lebron in this thread that u even ran to my music thread and typed up a long essay about how everyone is dumb for liking my shit lmfao. ur worthless, and the only mufucka co-signing u nowadays is an inbred lookin retard who +1's you on the hour because he thinks ur cute smfh.
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nik also says kobe is an iron man
iron men don't miss 6 games and let the Clippers back within 1/2 game of the division lead
He's blind. He doesn't see what is right in front of him. Shaq made the Lakers nearly unbeatable. Shaq left, all Kobe could do was tell Shaq how his ass tasted. He got angry & told upper management, "I'm leaving if you don't set me up to win", they stole Pau, drafted "the next Wilt Chamberlain", the rest of the league was mediocre outside of Boston, who beat them. Then they used that same weakened league to beat the Magic easily. Then played the same older Celtics team without Perkins & scrapped one out in seven. Now the league's gotten way more competitive & SOMEHOW "the greatest roster ever, arguably better than the 3-peat Lakers" isn't even supposed to make it to the Conference Finals, let alone the NBA finals. But it was Kobe's "killer instinct" to just have a better roster than the rest of the league.
at this point, i wouldn't be surprised if even 7even is shakin' his head when he reads ur posts........
at least when crack says retarded shit, it's usually for shock value....the sad part about all this is that ur being 100% serious. damn.
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Lebron is easily the best player in the league, but dude is not clutch at all. Until he starts finishing important games then you cant put him in the same category as Kobe Bryant, Michael Jordan, etc.
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and because lebron stays chokin' in 4th quarters....for a player of his caliber to have 3 mvp's would be a joke of epic proportions.
meanwhile Kobe only has 1 ;)
That shows how big of a joke the award really is. Any analyst will tell you that Kobe is one of the greatest of all time, yet they gave it to Steve Nash two years in a row.
yeah the same Steve Nash who elevated his teams to winning the west division when Kobe's teams were going 34-48 and 42-40
The award should go to the best player, Kobe was by far the best player in the league those two years. I've always liked Nash, but him winning two straight MVP's was a joke. Anyways, I think the MVP award is flawed all around, like in the MLB for example.
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^exactly...the Finals MVP is for the best player on the best team. regular season MVP is just the best player in the league, and that one season when Kobe averaged 35+ ppg and was breaking records left and right shoulda hands-down been his, as well as the season following that. also, the Lakers were a 7th seed that year and suns were a 2nd. we were one rebound away from advancing in the playoffs over phoenix and were even up 3-1 in the series at one point, so it aint like they were on another echelon. shit, kobe single-handedly willed those teams to victories.. he was undeniably something else during those years.
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steve nash was putting up 18 and 11 a game, right? and his team was killing Kobes if I recall correctly
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^exactly...the Finals MVP is for the best player on the best team. regular season MVP is just the best player in the league, and that one season when Kobe averaged 35+ ppg and was breaking records left and right shoulda hands-down been his, as well as the season following that. also, the Lakers were a 7th seed that year and suns were a 2nd. we were one rebound away from advancing in the playoffs over phoenix and were even up 3-1 in the series at one point, so it aint like they were on another echelon. shit, kobe single-handedly willed those teams to victories.. he was undeniably something else during those years.
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Na, son. There is no relation. Your anger here or about your music is just too precious to pass up on lol.
But lol @ you speculating on what Kobe meant when he said he wanted to leave. He wanted to play with players who can help him win. You used to say Pau was the best big man in basketball. But again, that's when he first got there, before you realized bigging up the entire Lakers roster was just a knock on Kobe. You're pathetic.
LeBron took a pay cut & took people like you trying to discredit his legacy over his move in order to win. Something we complain about every off season when guys like Pujols running to the highest bidder. Yet you think that's gutless. You're just a strange human being. Being locked up in your Jew castle your whole life has fucked with your senses of the average man's reality.
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steve nash was putting up 18 and 11 a game, right? and his team was killing Kobes if I recall correctly
LOL, Kobe's team sucked man. You guys always talk about how shitty LeBron's Cleveland supporting cast was, but those guys were all stars compared to the rest of the Lakers. And Jeremy Lin put up those numbers in D'antoni's system. Again, I like Nash, but dude wasn't even the best PG in the league.
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steve nash was putting up 18 and 11 a game, right? and his team was killing Kobes if I recall correctly
LOL, Kobe's team sucked man. You guys always talk about how shitty LeBron's Cleveland supporting cast was, but those guys were all stars compared to the rest of the Lakers. And Jeremy Lin put up those numbers in D'antoni's system. Again, I like Nash, but dude wasn't even the best PG in the league.
Well they sucked because Kobe isn't very good when he doesn't have pieces around him. He's not a leader. He's a scorer. He needs those big men who create for themselves in the post. Where he doesn't have to set it up, he can just dump it in & let them go to work. You could give a Larry Bird or LeBron James or Magic Johnson just about anyone who can shoot pretty good & they'll win 50+ games. They can score & set up the most average pros to be in a position to score.
I mean, honestly, I'm like 5'9'', white with an above average jump shot. If I was in the NBA & the coach was like "Just go do what Kobe does" & took 30+ shots a game, i'd score 10 points. The fact Kobe is BY FAR taking the most shots in the league & is scoring a point more than Bron & Durant is a joke in itself.
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Na, son. There is no relation. Your anger here or about your music is just too precious to pass up on lol.
But lol @ you speculating on what Kobe meant when he said he wanted to leave. He wanted to play with players who can help him win. You used to say Pau was the best big man in basketball. But again, that's when he first got there, before you realized bigging up the entire Lakers roster was just a knock on Kobe. You're pathetic.
LeBron took a pay cut & took people like you trying to discredit his legacy over his move in order to win. Something we complain about every off season when guys like Pujols running to the highest bidder. Yet you think that's gutless. You're just a strange human being. Being locked up in your Jew castle your whole life has fucked with your senses of the average man's reality.
lol...a bunch of peeps commented on how my music was dope, and u were angry, but u didn't know what to say, so u let it go for 2 days. then, i shitted on lebron's killer instinct, once again, and out of rage, u RAN to my music thread to try and convince everyone who said it was dope that they were "fooled". lmfao. now THAT'S precious.
as for Kobe, like i said, he was tired of playing for a rebuilding team, and it was very understandable. those weren't contending teams, like LeBron's Cavs were. they were D-League level teams featuring Kobe. if you dont get why Kobe told management to get some better talent to surround him, then u are even dumber than you are gay (which i don't really think is possible). really, though, are u trollin? cuz no way some1 can be this fuckin stupid....i mean, it's obvious that hack trolls 24/7 and makes retarded ass comments to piss people off. but u say the exact same things he does, only you're being 100% serious. how confused are u about life? honestly, cham. u need to have a breakthrough, cuz ur headed nowhere fast if this is really the mindset u work with on a day to day basis. ONCE AGAIN, U ARE THE ONLY PERSON IN THE WORLD WHO HASN'T QUESTIONED LEBRON'S MENTALITY AND KILLER INSTICE. don't u feel lonely? even the biggest lebron jockriders and Heat fans have acknowledged that he pisses them off in clutch situations....i mean, if lebron died, would u stop jerkin it forever?
listen to the end of this show (starts at about 143 minutes in)
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/un0mic/2012/04/16/twz-radio--wcd-swakay-cut-the-checc-ent
they talkin about kobe-lebron-durant and even the lebron fan who was riding for lebron acknowledged how scary lebron gets in the clutch and was at a loss for words when everyone brought it up. i would love for ur gayass to call in next show and drop some "knowledge" dicksuckin lmfao. u will get laughed off, believeit.
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This nigga wants to talk about "rage" when his longest responses to anyone are to me when I'm talking down about Kobe. I just kick the facts, my son & you just talk with your bias blinders on.
"Clutch" isn't real. I've stood by that. I can admit LeBron hasn't "stepped up" in those situations. But not by missing, by feeding a wide open Udonis Haslem to hit a shot he's made a career out of hitting.
If LeBron threw up that last second shot as often as Kobe...shit, if Tim Duncan threw up that last shot as often as Kobe he'd have more of those game tying three pointers he hit a few years back. At that point there is no "clutch", "nerves", no "skill". The defense is always going to guard the fuck out of the best player & when they get double teamed, it comes down to the play drawn by the coach. Kobe's play is "throw it up & since you shoot 40% from the field, we'll win almost half the time". LeBron's play is "Well...that guy over there is wide open, you're not really a pure jump shooter, but you can pass better than 98% of the point guards in this league".
More than half of your argument is "Yeah, Kobe's teamed sucked & he couldn't win, but LeBron isn't clutch & you're a dick rider". Quote me saying one "dickriding" thing here. LeBron is clearly the MVP, he did things with below average talent in Cleveland, his career will be defined by the playoffs & Kobe isn't a good leader & desperately needs big time talent in order to succeed, let alone win. You on the other hand just say "So jerk off to him. Kobe is the best." You're not really saying anything.
Bottom line, people will tell you Reggie Miller is the most clutch player ever...zero rings. Scoring last doesn't win you rings. It's dominating a game start to finish. He does it, you can't deny it. The only two instances ever where you can deny that is that Boston series in '08 & last year against the Mavericks.
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steve nash was putting up 18 and 11 a game, right? and his team was killing Kobes if I recall correctly
LOL, Kobe's team sucked man. You guys always talk about how shitty LeBron's Cleveland supporting cast was, but those guys were all stars compared to the rest of the Lakers. And Jeremy Lin put up those numbers in D'antoni's system. Again, I like Nash, but dude wasn't even the best PG in the league.
Well they sucked because Kobe isn't very good when he doesn't have pieces around him. He's not a leader. He's a scorer. He needs those big men who create for themselves in the post. Where he doesn't have to set it up, he can just dump it in & let them go to work. You could give a Larry Bird or LeBron James or Magic Johnson just about anyone who can shoot pretty good & they'll win 50+ games. They can score & set up the most average pros to be in a position to score.
I mean, honestly, I'm like 5'9'', white with an above average jump shot. If I was in the NBA & the coach was like "Just go do what Kobe does" & took 30+ shots a game, i'd score 10 points. The fact Kobe is BY FAR taking the most shots in the league & is scoring a point more than Bron & Durant is a joke in itself.
shoot good? lebron? and if I'm not mistaken magic wasn't known for his J either.
anyways, hell no, no way any superstar can get 50+wins in "THAT ERA" with smush, kwame, walton, and (insert whack big man here [i.e. chris mihms]).
everybody else in the league had a better lineup/ team in those years
phoenix(nash, stout, bell, diaw), golden state(davis, cap jack, ellis, harrington), new orleans(cp3 and friends), dallas (dirk and friends), houston(yao, alston, mcgrady), san antonio (the trio), denver (AI, Carmelo), Cleveland (lebron and friends), detroit ( the solid 4 there), miami (shaq, wade), jersey (kidd, VC, richard jefferson, k-mart), wizards (agent 0, jamison, butler),
shit i think i remember sacromento having a better team than us depth wise when ron was on their team also.
hell no they wouldn't of done better than kobe, its the same shit. the fact is KWAME WAS SCARED TO DUNK AN OPEN BASKET, there nothing that magic's physics defying passes would done to help kwame dunk.
http://www.youtube.com//v/UDePWJeWW9g
lol lebron had a much better team, my god. its funny as fuck when the cavs were playing the regular season getting the best standings in the ECF sometimes the whole league and say "this team is the best" "their deep" "best team in the NBA" "their going to win it all" "nobody can beat them"
"their going to smash on the lakers"
and as soon as they lose in the playoffs its all of a sudden "he needs help" "their not deep" "his team sucks". I'm not saying its anyone on here, but that basically is what the media did, and a lot of bandwagon fans bought into. mother fucekrs that do that don't know 2 shits about basketball.
did i say any of that sort? change my views 180 and change up last year? no I've just addressed what has been addressed all season, we needed to upgrade our PG position and get younger. i don't make excuses for my lakers, they didnt perform like the best team in the NBA should so they came up short.
i don tmake excuses that they weren't "deep enough" they are, and so were the cavs (at least to make it to the finals) except lebron wasn't good enough. he couldn't make it out of the weak eastern conference during those peak years, and a few shots down the stretch in certain clutch moments would of gotten him out (which obviously some other great players would make kobe, bill ups, MJ, nash, any other clutch star down the stretch)
lol its a joke to say magic or bird or mj would of been that successful with that horrible lakers team. those years were horrible just utterly horrible.
and for the bold part, you obviously don't watch ANY lakers basketball AT ALL. and it just astounds me how you can even say a statement like that.
theres a reason why he takes so many shots, because he has to bail them out most of the time. either everyones just watching kobe having him do something, or pau and andrew is late getting into post position.
when pau and andrew are late getting to post positions and waste time in the clock, its basically set up for kobe to take a bail out shot. so u can't blame it on kobe. pau and andrew get late, get into post position, gets doubled or gets out of post position, and theres no time to repost. thus kobe taking the shot, lol sometimes pau and andrew don't even try to repost. drew has actually changed over the course of the season, because if he wants to score, he better hustle back to the other end of the floor after playing D.
and of course, watching kobe waiting him for him to do something, only person that doesnt do that is matt barnes and now andrew, but other guys even pau sometimes get stuck doing that.
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I read about half of that. I'll comment on what I did read.
1. I didn't say those guys were know for their shot. I said if they were alone & had players around them who could shoot, they'd be okay. Because those guys knew when they had to operate & when they could set up somebody to be in an ideal spot to score.
2. Why did you name all those teams & "friends" of the star? It doesn't matter. Kobe Bryant, "best player of all-time, better than MJ" should do a little better than .500. You named some mediocre ass teams who "the greatest scorer of all-time" should be able to beat those teams. And don't give me some "well, teams knew who was going to shoot" because LeBron was alone against the Spurs in the Finals & you consider that a "choke"...somehow lol.
3. I don't remember anyone at all saying how the Cavs were deep. But that's kind of a stupid argument because he was more than deep enough against the Mavericks & they didn't win. NIK has turned this on LeBron James, but I'm not really speaking on LeBron at all in this thread outside about responding to NIK who couldn't handle me downplaying Kobe...I've been talking about Kobe. You all just spin it to a LeBron argument because you Laker fans get so damn angry when I downplay Kobe. I know LeBron didn't play up to par in the Finals. This isn't really about him though outside that he hands down deserves the MVP this year. Other than that, it's really a conversation about Kobe you niggas just can't accept.
4. LOL, this nigga wants to sit here & say "Well, these guys said Kobe didn't have a good team & those guys said LeBron's Cav deep was the deepest team in the league & Kobe said Kwamye Brown sucks". Well EVERYBODY & their mother in the media talks about how Kobe doesn't get Bynum or Pau involved at all, takes them out of rhythm, but you're going to sit here & tell me you see something professional analysts aren't seeing. "People saying things" about LeBron are spot on 100% of the time, right? But then Kobe gets brought up & those guys are fucking morons, right? lol. Skip Bayless, who you probably quote daily on your Twitter updates when he says LeBron has no clutch gene & should be on the bench the last five minutes of games is spot on there, but dead wrong & just flat out blind when he says Kobe fails to get them involved for the team to see it's full potential lol.
I mean, you're going to say that with a straight face, that Kobe has to "bail them out", when he's 0-15 shooting & Bynum hasn't even attempted his 4th shot of the game yet lol. It's beyond insanity the defense responses that come out of Laker fans mouths.
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I read about half of that. I'll comment on what I did read.
1. I didn't say those guys were know for their shot. I said if they were alone & had players around them who could shoot, they'd be okay. Because those guys knew when they had to operate & when they could set up somebody to be in an ideal spot to score.
2. Why did you name all those teams & "friends" of the star? It doesn't matter. Kobe Bryant, "best player of all-time, better than MJ" should do a little better than .500. You named some mediocre ass teams who "the greatest scorer of all-time" should be able to beat those teams. And don't give me some "well, teams knew who was going to shoot" because LeBron was alone against the Spurs in the Finals & you consider that a "choke"...somehow lol.
3. I don't remember anyone at all saying how the Cavs were deep. But that's kind of a stupid argument because he was more than deep enough against the Mavericks & they didn't win. NIK has turned this on LeBron James, but I'm not really speaking on LeBron at all in this thread outside about responding to NIK who couldn't handle me downplaying Kobe...I've been talking about Kobe. You all just spin it to a LeBron argument because you Laker fans get so damn angry when I downplay Kobe. I know LeBron didn't play up to par in the Finals. This isn't really about him though outside that he hands down deserves the MVP this year. Other than that, it's really a conversation about Kobe you niggas just can't accept.
4. LOL, this nigga wants to sit here & say "Well, these guys said Kobe didn't have a good team & those guys said LeBron's Cav deep was the deepest team in the league & Kobe said Kwamye Brown sucks". Well EVERYBODY & their mother in the media talks about how Kobe doesn't get Bynum or Pau involved at all, takes them out of rhythm, but you're going to sit here & tell me you see something professional analysts aren't seeing. "People saying things" about LeBron are spot on 100% of the time, right? But then Kobe gets brought up & those guys are fucking morons, right? lol. Skip Bayless, who you probably quote daily on your Twitter updates when he says LeBron has no clutch gene & should be on the bench the last five minutes of games is spot on there, but dead wrong & just flat out blind when he says Kobe fails to get them involved for the team to see it's full potential lol.
I mean, you're going to say that with a straight face, that Kobe has to "bail them out", when he's 0-15 shooting & Bynum hasn't even attempted his 4th shot of the game yet lol. It's beyond insanity the defense responses that come out of Laker fans mouths.
1. cmon bro, i just mentioned they didnt have much a of a J wasnt supposed to be a big deal.
2. i just said friends because they had a better role players/ b-list all star players on the team. im not saying kobe would of made tyson chandler or mo williams or such and all star or look good like cp3 and lebron did, but damn sure chandler is much better than kwame, samethign with smush and mo. yea some of them i named was medicore but still had a much better roster than he had. as much as i love and praise and see kobe as the first player to win a ring by himself scoring 50+ points every playoff game, its just a dream. honestly i give lebron kudos for reaching the finals that year, but the ECF is fucking weak then, but then again i dont knock him for losing that series even if it was a sweep. he was young as fuck, its an accomplishment. but i do no give him a pass the last 3 years he was in cleveland.
3. cmon bro, espn got everybody including their mamas (u know what i mean) to say cavs were the best team in the NBA, lol even mo himself jinxed it by saying "we're the best team in basketball.
3. i've never said kobe HAS to win the mvp this year, i believe KD has already made a good point for himself, hell even rose. but lebron..... yea he puts up numbers but thats not enough to put him over KD. yea yea he has westbrook and harden, but damn sure talent wise the big in the heat tops them, and their young, and its pretty crazy how much their beasting with KD at the tip of the spear and with their core being young, no veteran stars (fish just came they already made it known before he came that their gonan beast it) but still with that said i still believe lakers will take it all
4. yea they were considered the deepest team by BSPN, and whole bunch of other lebron fans, but the i never, at one point did i ever think that team was going to win. i honestly thought they WEREN'T deep enough, their team was definietly no better than the 08 celtics or 09 magic, or the lakers and nuggets (i dont care what their seed was, they could of done no doubt they had the depth and the players and the coach to do it)
their team wasnt gtood enough, no solid back up bigs, lebron isnt clutch. they needed to surround him with what the team needed, but instead they surrounded him with what lebron wanted and paying to his every heed.
the thing is if your starting center is afraid to dunk an open basket, theres problems.
and also, watch laker games bro alot of times kobe takes those shots because he has too and i also blame mike brown considering his main plan is to give kobe teh ball and let him run iso's like hesa fucking 25. but dont get me wrong i do see times where he hogs and shoots when he should of pass. and like i said in the before post, bynum has been very assertive, i havent seen a point where kobe just went all out scoring in the last month or so. in feb jan yea he was because that was teh offensive game play (if there even was one).
and bynum not getting a shot in the 4th is probably out of context. brown proabably didnt put him in, ive seen that plenty of times.
lastly i dont know why you get so damn aggresive when talking about lakers fan going "this nigga" and lakers fans that, calm down white chocolate.
you got at kobe, but i dont come out with a chip on my should when i debate.
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I mean, honestly, I'm like 5'9'', white with an above average jump shot. If I was in the NBA & the coach was like "Just go do what Kobe does" & took 30+ shots a game, i'd score 10 points.
lmao...i missed this one earlier. golden.
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looney, the guy gets defensive and touchy because he's gay. he thinks lashing out like that makes him more of a man, when in reality, it just makes him even more of a faggot...i mean, u gotta be 1 "dumb nigga" to not realize kobe aint nothin but a shooter, right? lmao. kobe is not great, we've all been fooled, once again. he also isn't a leader and he doesn't get his teammates going, despite the fact that Bynum was shooting 63% from the field with Kobe in the line-up and 44% without him. and those rings? well, psssh. Penny Hardaway coulda won those rings too...Kobe has Andrew frickin' Bynum! did u see him winning any rings with Kwame Brown? this nigga!
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Bryant isn't a leader now ? Ehh, that's low even for you Chamilionare.
My vote goes to CP3. Look at what he did with the Cliippers, a true leader, how many times he took over the game, especially in clutch moments.
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I mean, like I'm trying to explain, it's pointless discussing Kobe to Laker fans. Yeah, he's a "leader", he "leads" by taking 65% of his teams shots. Then Meho's dumbass says Chris Paul is a "true leader", but somehow lumps a true point guard who can score & above all, like a leader should do, sets his teammates up. In Meho's savy NBA mind that's the same as Kobe leading the NBA in shots per game despite having the best front court in basketball. Because you know...that makes logical sense. Kobe is only a leader in the respect that when he's on, he can dominate a game like Melo, Bron, Durant, etc. It's the equivalent of calling Melo a leader because he'll have his games like today where he won the game...but for the rest of the team...stood & watched inferior players try to create for themselves.
And NIK once again saying nothing of any relevance other than taking personal shots. I give you props for trying to use a stat. But not an idiotic one like "Well, when Kobe ISN'T on the floor & the other team isn't double teaming him when they get a chance & they can focus all their attention on Bynum & Bynum has to take more shots to cover Kobe's NBA leading 23 a game, Bynum shoots a lower percentage". C'mon, child.
With that said, amazing game by him today. & NIK, I watched the game, which is your favorite line to say against anyone who notices a flaw. The man hit shots, I can't take that away from that animal, but when the play wasn't designed around him he stood there & watched. Thunder stand no chance with Westbrook's retarded ass running the point so wrecklessly. 3-22...absolute joke.
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Bryant isn't a leader now ? Ehh, that's low even for you Chamilionare.
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You can't handle the truth. 8)
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I'm the man in the booth, with a few good men
You can't handle the truth. 8)
#slaughterhouse
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I mean, like I'm trying to explain, it's pointless discussing Kobe to Laker fans. Yeah, he's a "leader", he "leads" by taking 65% of his teams shots. Then Meho's dumbass says Chris Paul is a "true leader", but somehow lumps a true point guard who can score & above all, like a leader should do, sets his teammates up. In Meho's savy NBA mind that's the same as Kobe leading the NBA in shots per game despite having the best front court in basketball. Because you know...that makes logical sense. Kobe is only a leader in the respect that when he's on, he can dominate a game like Melo, Bron, Durant, etc. It's the equivalent of calling Melo a leader because he'll have his games like today where he won the game...but for the rest of the team...stood & watched inferior players try to create for themselves.
And NIK once again saying nothing of any relevance other than taking personal shots. I give you props for trying to use a stat. But not an idiotic one like "Well, when Kobe ISN'T on the floor & the other team isn't double teaming him when they get a chance & they can focus all their attention on Bynum & Bynum has to take more shots to cover Kobe's NBA leading 23 a game, Bynum shoots a lower percentage". C'mon, child.
With that said, amazing game by him today. & NIK, I watched the game, which is your favorite line to say against anyone who notices a flaw. The man hit shots, I can't take that away from that animal, but when the play wasn't designed around him he stood there & watched. Thunder stand no chance with Westbrook's retarded ass running the point so wrecklessly. 3-22...absolute joke.
i was a never a fan of westbrook, hes a terrible point guard, but u can make the same argument for AI but AI was just phenomenal, which gave him a pass.
if westbrook actually played point instead of chucking it up every opportunity he gets they might of won the game. lol there was a couple times in the game where i said "thank god for westbrook"
he needs to stop thinking hes a number one option, when his athleticism starts to dwindle, hes gonna be garbage. his jumpshot is mediocre also, he doesnt have a natural stroke.
and wait, you dont believe there a such thing of being "clutch"?
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I mean, like I'm trying to explain, it's pointless discussing Kobe to Laker fans. Yeah, he's a "leader", he "leads" by taking 65% of his teams shots. Then Meho's dumbass says Chris Paul is a "true leader", but somehow lumps a true point guard who can score & above all, like a leader should do, sets his teammates up. In Meho's savy NBA mind that's the same as Kobe leading the NBA in shots per game despite having the best front court in basketball. Because you know...that makes logical sense. Kobe is only a leader in the respect that when he's on, he can dominate a game like Melo, Bron, Durant, etc. It's the equivalent of calling Melo a leader because he'll have his games like today where he won the game...but for the rest of the team...stood & watched inferior players try to create for themselves.
And NIK once again saying nothing of any relevance other than taking personal shots. I give you props for trying to use a stat. But not an idiotic one like "Well, when Kobe ISN'T on the floor & the other team isn't double teaming him when they get a chance & they can focus all their attention on Bynum & Bynum has to take more shots to cover Kobe's NBA leading 23 a game, Bynum shoots a lower percentage". C'mon, child.
With that said, amazing game by him today. & NIK, I watched the game, which is your favorite line to say against anyone who notices a flaw. The man hit shots, I can't take that away from that animal, but when the play wasn't designed around him he stood there & watched. Thunder stand no chance with Westbrook's retarded ass running the point so wrecklessly. 3-22...absolute joke.
i was a never a fan of westbrook, hes a terrible point guard, but u can make the same argument for AI but AI was just phenomenal, which gave him a pass.
if westbrook actually played point instead of chucking it up every opportunity he gets they might of won the game. lol there was a couple times in the game where i said "thank god for westbrook"
he needs to stop thinking hes a number one option, when his athleticism starts to dwindle, hes gonna be garbage. his jumpshot is mediocre also, he doesnt have a natural stroke.
and wait, you dont believe there a such thing of being "clutch"?
I mean, he was past prime by then, but we saw what happened in Denver when he played with a "Kevin Durant" in Melo. They clashed, Iverson needed to ball to operate. Always wanted to see him play with a dominate big man. But Westbook constantly clashes with Durant. There was even a point tonight, I think it was in the first overtime, Durant called for the ball, Westbrook looked at him & kinda gave him the "...but I want to shoot look" lol. Then drove, scored, but Durant pulled him over on the ensuing timeout. Surprised they haven't actually gotten into a confrontation on the floor yet.
& no, "clutch" is a media driven force to make people believe they are seeing the supernatural. Kobe actually was a prime example of this tonight. Kobe shot poorly early in the game, then naturally, due to the average of his shooting, shots finally started falling. Just happened to fall at the right time for the Lakers sake. Late in the 4th & both OTs he easily took 75% of the Lakers shots. Naturally he's going to hit some of them. He forced quite a few & missed some big ones, hit some big ones. At the end of the day, tonight on ESPN you're going to see all his makes & none of his misses & you'll say to yourself, "Wow, he's so clutch.", like him hitting 5-12 shots is something above & beyond human efforts lol.
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wouldn't it be dope if cham got ran over by a bus?
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wouldn't it be dope if artest got ran over by a bus?
yeah
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Bryant isn't a leader now ? Ehh, that's low even for you Chamilionare.
Yeah, I've always liked talking music/baseball with you but that was way over the top.
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Are we just going to ignore the reasons why?
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lol notice how rememdy didn't say basketball.
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lol notice how rememdy didn't say basketball.
Me & him have never spoken basketball. You still can't defend yourself. Dodgin' ass nigga.
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defend what? ur homosexual love for lebron has turned you into a mockery when it comes to discussing basketball. there is nothing for me to "defend" here. clearly, even people who don't have a problem with u are callin out ur gayness, so i would take a step back n breathe if i were u, young'n.
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Kobe. Explain to me this leadership you're claiming is "crazy". I broke down why he isn't one. Your just tryna play off other Laker fans, tryna buddy-buddy up with anyone who will oppose me. You display actions a third grader does.
I mean, if I fought arguments like your bitch-ass, I should just say, "Hahahaha, you & Meho are homosexuals".
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wtf are u talkin about? someone who says Kobe "isn't a leader" and is "just a good shooter" doesn't warrant a serious response, u dumb bitch......but how bout the fact that he led the Lakers to back-to-back championships? how bout the fact that he made smush parker, luke walton, and kwame brown look like legit players in tha nba? how bout the fact that because of kobe, pau gasol may now end up in the basketball hall-of-fame, something he didn't have a shot at before coming to L.A?...i mean, seriously, gasol was always good, but alongside Kobe, he's played by far his best ball. bynum without kobe on the court=40% fg, with kobe on the court=60% fg. but most of all, the fact that i even have to break down to u WHY kobe is a leader is the main reason u are a faggot, and why everyone in this section is collectively laughing at u.
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Lebron is easily the best player in the league, but dude is not clutch at all. Until he starts finishing important games then you cant put him in the same category as Kobe Bryant, Michael Jordan, etc.
This. Winning a couple rings would also help.
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wtf are u talkin about? someone who says Kobe "isn't a leader" and is "just a good shooter" doesn't warrant a serious response, u dumb bitch......but how bout the fact that he led the Lakers to back-to-back championships? how bout the fact that he made smush parker, luke walton, and kwame brown look like legit players in tha nba? how bout the fact that because of kobe, pau gasol may now end up in the basketball hall-of-fame, something he didn't have a shot at before coming to L.A?...i mean, seriously, gasol was always good, but alongside Kobe, he's played by far his best ball. bynum without kobe on the court=40% fg, with kobe on the court=60% fg. but most of all, the fact that i even have to break down to u WHY kobe is a leader is the main reason u are a faggot, and why everyone in this section is collectively laughing at u.
LOL. 1. Like I said he "led" them by scoring, not by leading the rest of his team. It was like Kobe...and then everyone else who happened to be a good enough collection of pieces around him to win a ring. He didn't lead them by making them better players. He didn't put people in the best position to score. Phil took care of that. Kobe just shot the ball & Pau & Bynum were MORE than suitable to set themselves up. You just have a hard time accepting the fact the guy isn't a leader. He just "leads" the team by scoring when he needs to. If you can't see the difference, you might as well stop talking basketball all together.
& LOL Whaaaaaaaaaaaat? You're still riding that stat? You're a fucking moron. OBVIOUSLY Bynum is going to shoot a worse percentage when Kobe isn't on the floor getting all the attention & the defense can focus solely on Bynum & Pau. & since Kobe wasn't playing, somebody had to take the 23 shots a game he averages. Naturally your % is going to go down under those circumstances. How fucking idiotic can you get?
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wtf are u talkin about? someone who says Kobe "isn't a leader" and is "just a good shooter" doesn't warrant a serious response, u dumb bitch......but how bout the fact that he led the Lakers to back-to-back championships? how bout the fact that he made smush parker, luke walton, and kwame brown look like legit players in tha nba? how bout the fact that because of kobe, pau gasol may now end up in the basketball hall-of-fame, something he didn't have a shot at before coming to L.A?...i mean, seriously, gasol was always good, but alongside Kobe, he's played by far his best ball. bynum without kobe on the court=40% fg, with kobe on the court=60% fg. but most of all, the fact that i even have to break down to u WHY kobe is a leader is the main reason u are a faggot, and why everyone in this section is collectively laughing at u.
LOL. 1. Like I said he "led" them by scoring, not by leading the rest of his team. It was like Kobe...and then everyone else who happened to be a good enough collection of pieces around him to win a ring. He didn't lead them by making them better players. He didn't put people in the best position to score. Phil took care of that. Kobe just shot the ball & Pau & Bynum were MORE than suitable to set themselves up. You just have a hard time accepting the fact the guy isn't a leader. He just "leads" the team by scoring when he needs to. If you can't see the difference, you might as well stop talking basketball all together.
& LOL Whaaaaaaaaaaaat? You're still riding that stat? You're a fucking moron. OBVIOUSLY Bynum is going to shoot a worse percentage when Kobe isn't on the floor getting all the attention & the defense can focus solely on Bynum & Pau. & since Kobe wasn't playing, somebody had to take the 23 shots a game he averages. Naturally your % is going to go down under those circumstances. How fucking idiotic can you get?
this makes perfect sense! i mean...pau and bynum are perfectly capable of setting themselves up, who needs the greatest scorer of our generation to attract attenion?! obviously, the double and triple teams on the perimeter do absolutely nothin for their game. kobe also hasn't led the lakers in assists for the past 10+ years, and the fact that bynum's field goal percentage has dipped 20% without kobe has no connection to kobe whatsoever.....if only kobe were a leader of lebron's caliber!!!
my god, u are such a pathetic waste of life......like i said, hack wilson minus the trolling. it's like everything hack says to fuck with people, u say because u have a gay crush on lebron. good job being a complete faggot and the laughingstock of basketball discussions in the sports section. thats right...u've taken the crown from hack. hack fucking wislon has better insight than you do. how does it feel to know that the resident retard is more capable than you are when it comes to debating?
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LOL, that was your response? Just give some sarcastic tone like I'm making something up? Moron. Followed up by some personal thing in a desperation of hope people will read it & follow you? You're pathetic. I'll talk facts, you talk anger.
1. Are you saying Kobe is a leader because he's probably the greatest scorer in the league since Jordan? Of course it makes it easier for everyone else because the defense is focusing everything they have on trying to stop Kobe. It's just like Iverson or T-Mac or Melo. Yeah, the defense is focusing on them more than anyone, so everyone else is going to have a better look than they would if that main scoring threat wasn't playing. But just because Kobe draws attention doesn't mean he does anything about it. He still fires up shots in double coverage, while being 0-15 on the night. So how does that make him a leader? Because he "isn't afraid" to keep taking that shot? Despite losing the same by 18 points? C'mon, son.
2. Kobe has the ball in his hand 98% of the plays & for his entire career he's had Derek Fisher play his role in Phil Jackson's triangle. OF COURSE he's going to have the most assists.
3. LOL @ still trying to act like that argument has any validity! Not only did you JUST admit in your first fucking sentence that Kobe getting tripled on the perimeter makes it so much easier for Bynum & Pau to operate, but how aren't you understanding that with Kobe out Bynum goes from Kobe's sidekick to the main man. He's gotta score. He's gotta make up for Kobe's 23 shots a game. OBVIOUSLY he has to shoot more. OBVIOUSLY he's going to get more pressured by the defense. So OBVIOUSLY he is going to shoot a lower percentage. LOL. Holy shit, you're an idiot. You'll say just about anything when you're desperate.
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if u think kobe is not a leader, quote this
yea...looks like ur alone on this one, once again, gayboy
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I don't expect Laker fans to be like "Oh, yeah...my childhood is 'insert negative comment here'" lol. It's not really disputable, I just wanted to see you try. & in your attempt you threw outrageous stats at me that were out of pure desperation.
Personally, I just hope you can fall asleep tonight.
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i'm pretty sure the only other laker fans who posted in this thread are teddy & looney...but whatever helps u feel better about having an undeniable gay crush on lebron.
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i'm pretty sure the only other laker fans who posted in this thread are teddy & looney...but whatever helps u feel better about having an undeniable gay crush on lebron.
I haven't mentioned LeBron once. You have. Mostly because you're boy Kobe is getting sonned & you're just saying whatever you can to belittle my statements.
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i'm pretty sure the only other laker fans who posted in this thread are teddy & looney...but whatever helps u feel better about having an undeniable gay crush on lebron.
I haven't mentioned LeBron once.
This year is only different because LeBron is just playing so out of his mind it isn't fair. People are already questioning if it's the greatest individual season ever. Kobe's just not an MVP. He's just a high volume.
smh
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^lol @ quoting me when this conversation was about the league MVP. We've gotten well off topic. You're mad.
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^lol @ quoting me when this conversation was about the league MVP. We've gotten well off topic. You're mad.
u do realize that if no one agrees with you, it usually means ur a dumb bitch, correct? u can go on all u want, thinkin that gettin the last word means u came out on top (as u once admitted), but the realization of reality is that ur a stupid faggot who has no credibility discussing basketball. like i said, if someone disagrees that cham is a gay idiot, please let it be known. so far, i only see people laughin at how dumb u sound. people who aren't even laker fans.
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^lol @ quoting me when this conversation was about the league MVP. We've gotten well off topic. You're mad.
u do realize that if no one agrees with you, it usually means ur a dumb bitch, correct? u can go on all u want, thinkin that gettin the last word means u came out on top (as u once admitted), but the realization of reality is that ur a stupid faggot who has no credibility discussing basketball. like i said, if someone disagrees that cham is a gay idiot, please let it be known. so far, i only see people laughin at how dumb u sound. people who aren't even laker fans.
Ever since I explained it nobody can really dispute it. Just like you've been trying to for days now, but just continuously fail. & all those people are Kobe fans. Remedy consistently roots for Kobe all the time. You're just trying to wash away the facts of Kobe with your typical, generic insults you use to anybody who shits on you.
"You're usually a dumb bitch", "You're a stupid faggot who has no credibility", "Cham is a gay idiot" (nigga really used 'gay idiot' as a diss)", "People are laughing at how dumb you sound".
Just pure anger over the reality of something you can't prove. Your biggest attempt was flashing a stat that you've completely abandoned due to to how absolutely illogical it sounds. Now you're in a corner, you need to defend your e-cred because it defines you as a human being & you're saying "Guys, guys, guys, anybody whose reading this, Cham is a 'gay idiot' & has no credibility discussing basketball". It's honestly probably less about you trying to defend Kobe & more about you just tryin' to save face in front of people hoping they ride with you against me lol. Pathetic.
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^lol @ quoting me when this conversation was about the league MVP. We've gotten well off topic. You're mad.
u do realize that if no one agrees with you, it usually means ur a dumb bitch, correct? u can go on all u want, thinkin that gettin the last word means u came out on top (as u once admitted), but the realization of reality is that ur a stupid faggot who has no credibility discussing basketball. like i said, if someone disagrees that cham is a gay idiot, please let it be known. so far, i only see people laughin at how dumb u sound. people who aren't even laker fans.
Ever since I explained it nobody can really dispute it. Just like you've been trying to for days now, but just continuously fail. & all those people are Kobe fans. Remedy consistently roots for Kobe all the time. You're just trying to wash away the facts of Kobe with your typical, generic insults you use to anybody who shits on you.
"You're usually a dumb bitch", "You're a stupid faggot who has no credibility", "Cham is a gay idiot" (nigga really used 'gay idiot' as a diss)", "People are laughing at how dumb you sound".
Just pure anger over the reality of something you can't prove. Your biggest attempt was flashing a stat that you've completely abandoned due to to how absolutely illogical it sounds. Now you're in a corner, you need to defend your e-cred because it defines you as a human being & you're saying "Guys, guys, guys, anybody whose reading this, Cham is a 'gay idiot' & has no credibility discussing basketball". It's honestly probably less about you trying to defend Kobe & more about you just tryin' to save face in front of people hoping they ride with you against me lol. Pathetic.
it's not a diss, bro...u really are a gay idiot. what don't you get?
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Hahaaaaaaaa, this nigga tight.
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referrin to dudes as "tight" is not a good look when your sexuality is in question, young biebs
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referrin to dudes as "tight" is not a good look when your sexuality is in question, young biebs
It's only in question by a kid who literally takes his frustration out on his keyboard. I've never seen someone display such passion in their pure hatred due to tasting reality in this fantasy land you try to escape in.
But yeah, I can't blame you for getting off a topic you just got dominated in..
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I've never seen someone display such passion in their pure hatred due to tasting reality in this fantasy land you try to escape in.
But yeah, I can't blame you for getting off a topic you just got dominated in..
try to make sense, you fucking idiot. u got the sentence structure of a 1st grader and the hormones of elton john..
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I've never seen someone display such passion in their pure hatred due to tasting reality in this fantasy land you try to escape in.
But yeah, I can't blame you for getting off a topic you just got dominated in..
try to make sense, you fucking idiot. u got the sentence structure of a 1st grader and the hormones of elton john..
LOL. Now you can't read basic English. I swear, you're the illest herb.
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I've never seen someone display such passion in their pure hatred due to tasting reality in this fantasy land you try to escape in.
But yeah, I can't blame you for getting off a topic you just got dominated in..
try to make sense, you fucking idiot. u got the sentence structure of a 1st grader and the hormones of elton john..
LOL. Now you can't read basic English. I swear, you're the illest herb.
idiot...i know u try sounding like ur not a complete dumbshit, but what u just typed made no sense. now, considering i know u and understand the magnitude of your gayness, i understood what you were getting at..but ur still a gay idiot.
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I deadass believe you throw darts at my picture on the wall.
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I deadass believe you throw darts at my picture on the wall.
ditto
here's a + 1 cham
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I deadass believe you throw darts at my picture on the wall.
ditto
here's a + 1 cham
You need to chill with the +1's. I'm starting to feel bad. This nigga NIK literally has an alarm that goes off when he's allowed to -1 me. If a man goes out of his way that much, just let him go.
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+1 for your honesty
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Bron
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I deadass believe you throw darts at my picture on the wall.
ditto
here's a + 1 cham
You need to chill with the +1's. I'm starting to feel bad. This nigga NIK literally has an alarm that goes off when he's allowed to -1 me. If a man goes out of his way that much, just let him go.
lmao... Ur karma went up +200 in a month. If I been negging u on the hour, do you realize how gay for u that makes hack? I know ur startin to feel embarrassed by the obviousness of this relationship, but c'mon, son.
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I'm convinced your comebacks are from the troll in you. Because no way can a human come up with such lame shit so frequently.
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so be honest, do you know hack has a crush on you or not? i mean, there's no denying ur karma went up +200 since he came back, and we all know he's the only 1 pathetic/lonely enough to do somethin like that...
so don't beat around the bush, what is your take on all that gayness? dont respond with some gay comeback of how i'm "the illest herb" or some homo ass slang u use as a default comeback, just answer the question directly, if u can
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so be honest, do you know hack has a crush on you or not? i mean, there's no denying ur karma went up +200 since he came back, and we all know he's the only 1 pathetic/lonely enough to do somethin like that...
so don't beat around the bush, what is your take on all that gayness? dont respond with some gay comeback of how i'm "the illest herb" or some homo ass slang u use as a default comeback, just answer the question directly, if u can
I always answer the questions at hand. You're the bitch made herb who loves changing the topic when you're wrong as fuck.
I can't prove it's Hack, so I mean...I can't really comment.
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so be honest, do you know hack has a crush on you or not? i mean, there's no denying ur karma went up +200 since he came back, and we all know he's the only 1 pathetic/lonely enough to do somethin like that...
so don't beat around the bush, what is your take on all that gayness? dont respond with some gay comeback of how i'm "the illest herb" or some homo ass slang u use as a default comeback, just answer the question directly, if u can
I always answer the questions at hand. You're the bitch made herb who loves changing the topic when you're wrong as fuck.
I can't prove it's Hack, so I mean...I can't really comment.
"bitch made herb" lmao.. i just said don't respond with a gay comeback, and what do u do..can't resist the urge, huh?
"i can't prove it's hack" lmfao...well, who else here likes you? no one. especially not enough to +1 u during periods where u aint even active on the forum...we all know that only the inbred hillbilly is capable of an act as pathetic as that. plus, the fact that the rise in your karma and drop in mine began at the same exact time that hack returned to the forum only confirms the gayness of it all.
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so be honest, do you know hack has a crush on you or not? i mean, there's no denying ur karma went up +200 since he came back, and we all know he's the only 1 pathetic/lonely enough to do somethin like that...
so don't beat around the bush, what is your take on all that gayness? dont respond with some gay comeback of how i'm "the illest herb" or some homo ass slang u use as a default comeback, just answer the question directly, if u can
I always answer the questions at hand. You're the bitch made herb who loves changing the topic when you're wrong as fuck.
I can't prove it's Hack, so I mean...I can't really comment.
"bitch made herb" lmao.. i just said don't respond with a gay comeback, and what do u do..can't resist the urge, huh?
"i can't prove it's hack" lmfao...well, who else here likes you? no one. especially not enough to +1 u during periods where u aint even active on the forum...we all know that only the inbred hillbilly is capable of an act as pathetic as that. plus, the fact that the rise in your karma and drop in mine began at the same exact time that hack returned to the forum only confirms the gayness of it all.
I answered your question, what are you mad at, herb?
& what are you talking about? If no one liked me, my entire family & life story would be posted here & I would have to run to my Uncle to make phone calls for me because I'd be too big of a pussy. This nigga loves to reach. In this very thread Remedy said "I enjoy talking Baseball & music with you". You just think there is some forum wide dislike for me because you just follow me around when you have a partner to buddy up with & try to go at me. You try to find a friend who I make as angry as I make you & then have the audacity to start calling people gay.
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i bet you 100$ that u will not be able to get one poster to come out and say they were plussing you on the hour these past couple months. 100$, gayboy.
u know damn well that ur gay bff loves u...its pretty hilarious to see u sitting here and pretending like u believe there's a possibility that it's not him suckin u off with karma points lmao
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I mean considering the person who you're claiming is doing it won't "come out & say it", why would I make the bet? I mean, I might as well say, I bet you $100 bucks that you will not get Hack to come out & say he was +1ing me for the past couple of months...dumbass.
It doesn't matter, NIK. You can try to flip it all you want, the facts are my karma was at like +300, you hugged my nuts consistently for a year & it went down to -350. Want to know what's "pretty hilarious"? How you think giving out -1's & "ruining" somebodies karma on here is like detrimental to that posters life. I can see your herb ass sitting there saying to yourself, "IF I CAN'T HAVE POSITIVE KARMA, NO ONE CAN! -1, -1, -1, -1, -1, -1" lmao.
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I mean considering the person who you're claiming is doing it won't "come out & say it", why would I make the bet? I mean, I might as well say, I bet you $100 bucks that you will not get Hack to come out & say he was +1ing me for the past couple of months...dumbass.
It doesn't matter, NIK. You can try to flip it all you want, the facts are my karma was at like +300, you hugged my nuts consistently for a year & it went down to -350. Want to know what's "pretty hilarious"? How you think giving out -1's & "ruining" somebodies karma on here is like detrimental to that posters life. I can see your herb ass sitting there saying to yourself, "IF I CAN'T HAVE POSITIVE KARMA, NO ONE CAN! -1, -1, -1, -1, -1, -1" lmao.
who u tryna fool? ur karma dropped when i exposed u for bein a very gay lookin kid. i dont fux with karma, biebs. never have, never will. even if i did neg you down to -450 (which i didn't), hack plussing you back up is about 400x gayer, and even ur fruity ass knows that.
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I mean considering the person who you're claiming is doing it won't "come out & say it", why would I make the bet? I mean, I might as well say, I bet you $100 bucks that you will not get Hack to come out & say he was +1ing me for the past couple of months...dumbass.
It doesn't matter, NIK. You can try to flip it all you want, the facts are my karma was at like +300, you hugged my nuts consistently for a year & it went down to -350. Want to know what's "pretty hilarious"? How you think giving out -1's & "ruining" somebodies karma on here is like detrimental to that posters life. I can see your herb ass sitting there saying to yourself, "IF I CAN'T HAVE POSITIVE KARMA, NO ONE CAN! -1, -1, -1, -1, -1, -1" lmao.
who u tryna fool? ur karma dropped when i exposed u for bein a very gay lookin kid. i dont fux with karma, biebs. never have, never will. even if i did neg you down to -450 (which i didn't), hack plussing you back up is about 400x gayer, and even ur fruity ass knows that.
lol, I don't know what you want me to say. You're basically saying, "Cham you're gay because people give you +1's."...nigga, you know you ONLY made that thread (To the poster whose karma is rising...) because it discouraged you so much to see all your time & energy go to waste with somebody propping me. Like right this minute, I can't see your karma while replying. I have absolutely no idea what it is. If I had to guess I'd say it's around -370. But even if you were +29, I wouldn't notice because I don't look at that shit lol. How you really going to notice a difference from -350 to -290 unless you were the one making it negative in the first place? C'mon wackass.
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I mean considering the person who you're claiming is doing it won't "come out & say it", why would I make the bet? I mean, I might as well say, I bet you $100 bucks that you will not get Hack to come out & say he was +1ing me for the past couple of months...dumbass.
It doesn't matter, NIK. You can try to flip it all you want, the facts are my karma was at like +300, you hugged my nuts consistently for a year & it went down to -350. Want to know what's "pretty hilarious"? How you think giving out -1's & "ruining" somebodies karma on here is like detrimental to that posters life. I can see your herb ass sitting there saying to yourself, "IF I CAN'T HAVE POSITIVE KARMA, NO ONE CAN! -1, -1, -1, -1, -1, -1" lmao.
who u tryna fool? ur karma dropped when i exposed u for bein a very gay lookin kid. i dont fux with karma, biebs. never have, never will. even if i did neg you down to -450 (which i didn't), hack plussing you back up is about 400x gayer, and even ur fruity ass knows that.
lol, I don't know what you want me to say. You're basically saying, "Cham you're gay because people give you +1's."...nigga, you know you ONLY made that thread (To the poster whose karma is rising...) because it discouraged you so much to see all your time & energy go to waste with somebody propping me. Like right this minute, I can't see your karma while replying. I have absolutely no idea what it is. If I had to guess I'd say it's around -370. But even if you were +29, I wouldn't notice because I don't look at that shit lol. How you really going to notice a difference from -350 to -290 unless you were the one making it negative in the first place? C'mon wackass.
i noticed your karma when it was on -420...i have sigs turned off, so thats what i see under peoples name when i look at the poster. a few days later, i noticed u were somethin like -380. it was around the same time hack came back. then, i started payin attention to see if hack was plusing you on the hour, and he was. i was curious to know if he was really as gay for u as i thought he was. nothin more, nothin less...turns out he was, so i made the thread and put your e-relationship on blast. end of story.
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^lol, this nigga is in such denial. Countless times when you start beefing with kids there karma goes down twenty points in two days & then they start crying about it. Must just be all the people you've claimed for years were "conspiring" against you holding you down & negging your e-enemies lol.
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really? i've never been called out on lowering karma, outside of you and hack. like i said before, if i really did lower peoples karma as u claim, sikotic wouldn't be sittin on 3,000+......fact of the matter is, ur just in denial about being a hated faggot on this site. ur using me lowering karma as an outlet to feel better about it, just like when u claim people shitting on u are aliases or trolls. ur incredibly insecure about how much people recognize ur gayness, so much that u lie to yourself
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Cham and NIK, you guys are embarrassing yourselves. I've been gone from the forum for months, come back, and its the same shit.. Why are you both so fucking obsessed with each other.??
MVP
LeBron, maybe Durant. No one else has a chance
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Cham and NIK, you guys are embarrassing yourselves. I've been gone from the forum for months, come back, and its the same shit.. Why are you both so fucking obsessed with each other.??
MVP
LeBron, maybe Durant. No one else has a chance
bro, the kid wont hope off the dick. same thing in my music threads where i post my songs out in the west coast section (check em out). trust me, i'd prefer avoidin the dicklicker all together, but he's obsessive and follows me around the forum to suck dick because of how angry the things i say about lebron makes him. and u cant tell me he doesnt say some of the dumbest shit ever in his responses ("kobe isn't a leader", "there is no such thing as clutch", etc. etc.)...i was just talkin basketball, and out of nowhere, kid comes with his personal anger rants, which lead to back-n-forths and ends up producing some of the dumbest ideas known to mankind.
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LOL, it's just too funny to see things like that. That's why. The dedication of NIK trying to explain to bring people against me is just something to laugh at.
It's a forum. People say what the fuck they feel. You just hate it.
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LOL, it's just too funny to see things like that. That's why. The dedication of NIK trying to explain to bring people against me is just something to laugh at.
It's a forum. People say what the fuck they feel. You just hate it.
a forum is not a place to follow people around and type paragraphs about why u don't like them
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LOL, it's just too funny to see things like that. That's why. The dedication of NIK trying to explain to bring people against me is just something to laugh at.
It's a forum. People say what the fuck they feel. You just hate it.
a forum is not a place to follow people around and type paragraphs about why u don't like them
bro, the kid wont hope off the dick. same thing in my music threads where i post my songs out in the west coast section (check em out). trust me, i'd prefer avoidin the dicklicker all together, but he's obsessive and follows me around the forum to suck dick because of how angry the things i say about lebron makes him. and u cant tell me he doesnt say some of the dumbest shit ever in his responses ("kobe isn't a leader", "there is no such thing as clutch", etc. etc.)...i was just talkin basketball, and out of nowhere, kid comes with his personal anger rants, which lead to back-n-forths and ends up producing some of the dumbest ideas known to mankind.
This is the kid who works his hardest to gain whatever support he can to get people against me lmao.
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Funny thing is the medias decided to make it a 2 men race a long time ago whereas Parker deserves strong consideration
Heat failed to get the 1st seed over the Bulls with Rose missing almost half of the games , plus Lebron is still defering to Wade in the clutch ... how exactly is Lebron the MVP ?
Westbrook is the best OKC player half of the time , they failed to get the 1st seed too... how exactly is KD the MVP ?
Meanwhile SAS got the 1st seed with Parker leading the way ( yes they have great depth but a good portion of Duncan and their 3pt shooters pts are coming from Parker playmaking , Manu missed half of the season , they are just a complete different and better team with Parker on the floor)
If they gave Nash back to back MVPs (LMAO) , I'm not sure why TP couldn't get one
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What kind of dumb question is that? How is LeBron MVP? LeBron averaged crazy numbers. They won the most games by double digits. You're going to critique him because 75% of the games he played in he brought his team in a position where he wasn't even close to having an opportunity to score late? lol. Reaching.
Stop making basketball a thirty second sport. How many game winners does Parker have on the year? The Heat benched Bron, Wade & Bosh for most of the final games. Let's just give Tony Parker MVP because Norris Cole & Joel Anthony couldn't win them games at the end of the season lol.
Tony had a great year. Deserves recognition. I do agree with KD. Although I also think KD is still more deserving than Tony Parker.