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Quincy Jones Kills Kanye West Comparisons, "Come On Man, He's Just A Rapper"
"No way," Jones responded when an interviewed said West was similar to him being one of the most sought-after producers in the past 10 years. "Did he write for a symphony orchestra? Does he write for a jazz orchestra? Come on, man. He's just a rapper. There's no comparison. I'm not putting him down or making a judgement or anything, but we come from two different sides of the planet. I spent 28 years learning my first skill. I don't rap. It's not the same thing. A producer has to have some sort of skills that enable him to be a producer. It's totally different to know what to do with 16 woodwinds you know from piccolos down to bass clarinet. It's a whole different mindset. No comparison. None." (US Magazine)
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Sounds kinda full of himself though
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Sounds kinda full of himself though
I think Kanye's arrogance and cockiness really make others dig for substance with him to at least try to credit or discredit him. Not that it makes it right but dude's ego has it's own county.
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Sounds kinda full of himself though
I think Kanye's arrogance and cockiness really make others dig for substance with him to at least try to credit or discredit him. Not that it makes it right but dude's ego has it's own county.
Sounds like both of them got major ego's. We already know all 2 well about Kanye's ego lol
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Sounds kinda full of himself though
sounds like you don't even know WHO IS quincy jones. ::)
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Sounds kinda full of himself though
sounds like you don't even know WHO IS quincy jones. ::)
Quincy is obviously on another level thanKanye, but he did make himself sound like a douche in that interview.
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Sounds kinda full of himself though
sounds like you don't even know WHO IS quincy jones. ::)
Quincy is obviously on another level thanKanye, but he did make himself sound like a douche in that interview.
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Sounds kinda full of himself though
do you know who Quincy Jones is?
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Sounds kinda full of himself though
do you know who Quincy Jones is?
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It's not even that QJ sets KW in place, he's only stating the obvious. A Dr. Dre/KW comparison would be more in place.
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Sounds kinda full of himself though
do you know who Quincy Jones is?
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It's not even that QJ sets KW in place, he's only stating the obvious. A Dr. Dre/KW comparison would be more in place.
I would agree, except I seem to remember Quincy Jones giving Dr. Dre props at that Vibe awards show a few years back
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Quincy is talking truth right there. Who would even compare those two lol
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Quincy is talking truth right there. Who would even compare those two lol
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Quincy is talking truth right there. Who would even compare those two lol
My thoughts exactly.
Quincy is a proper MUSICIAN. Shows how narrow minded people are about music these days. People only need to enjoy a few records to start comparing them to the all time greats.
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Sounds kinda full of himself though
do you know who Quincy Jones is?
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It's not even that QJ sets KW in place, he's only stating the obvious.
I know that you are fucking stupid
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Quincy is on another level than Kanye but I think he don't need to diss him like that.. we all know that Quincy is a genius and we all know that they not similar but come on son u don't need to disrespect him like that... ::)
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Quincy is on another level than Kanye but I think he don't need to diss him like that.. we all know that Quincy is a genius and we all know that they not similar but come on son u don't need to disrespect him like that... ::)
Quincy has just replied to a fucking stupid question....with FACTS.
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what has quincy jones produced lately that even rivals what kanye has done 01- 2010 ?
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what has quincy jones produced lately that even rivals what kanye has done 01- 2010 ?
LMFAO are you serious ?
this thread should be locked after this post :-X
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what has quincy jones produced lately that even rivals what kanye has done 01- 2010 ?
LMFAO are you serious ?
this thread should be locked after this post :-X
u damn right i'm serious. i'm no serious kanye fan but i do recognize brilliance in most of his work old and new. q is a legend but q talking like ye is dj khaled or collipark or somebody. just cause he can play instruments..... shit dj quik had live musicianship on his records too. the roots play instruments too. does that mean they just rappers. what relevant r&b singer has a current quincy jones production ? ok then.
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what has quincy jones produced lately that even rivals what kanye has done 01- 2010 ?
LMFAO are you serious ?
this thread should be locked after this post :-X
what relevant r&b singer has a current quincy jones production ? ok then.
i really don't know how relevant is this unknow guy that goes by the name of Michael Jackson ::)
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what has quincy jones produced lately that even rivals what kanye has done 01- 2010 ?
LMFAO are you serious ?
this thread should be locked after this post :-X
what relevant r&b singer has a current quincy jones production ? ok then.
i really don't know how relevant is this unknow guy that goes by the name of Michael Jackson ::)
oh... wacko jacko ( yeah i said it). the latest shit he's done for michael pales in comparison to an album like thriller.
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what has quincy jones produced lately that even rivals what kanye has done 01- 2010 ?
LMFAO are you serious ?
this thread should be locked after this post :-X
what relevant r&b singer has a current quincy jones production ? ok then.
i really don't know how relevant is this unknow guy that goes by the name of Michael Jackson ::)
oh... wacko jacko ( yeah i said it). the latest shit he's done for michael pales in comparison to an album like thriller.
after my last reply you should stop posting in this thread if you have a little bit of dignity...
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what has quincy jones produced lately that even rivals what kanye has done 01- 2010 ?
LMFAO are you serious ?
this thread should be locked after this post :-X
what relevant r&b singer has a current quincy jones production ? ok then.
i really don't know how relevant is this unknow guy that goes by the name of Michael Jackson ::)
oh... wacko jacko ( yeah i said it). the latest shit he's done for michael pales in comparison to an album like thriller.
after my last reply you should stop posting in this thread if you have a little bit of dignity...
your last reply is dog shit on a sidewalk. like i said name a current album that boasts quincy jones production besides his own project he released. being on mike's album is pretty much a given.
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What's the deal in Quincy nipping a stupid question like this in the bud? Not big headed to say they're nothing like each other.
It's someone asking Marlon Brando if he thinks Colin Farell is as good an actor as he is. ::)
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Quincy has been making music since like the fucking 60s - what are you doing comparing him to Kanye West?
Kanye has created a ton of music in the last 10 years and other artists haven't - what's your point?
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Some of you are stupid lol. Of course there is no comparison and I work in the industry but don't know who Quincy Jones is ::) Get real
I'm just saying he does sound like a douche in that interview. Didn't need to diss Kanye like that. He could have been more subtle.
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u percieve it as disresepctful cause your delusional..
is this disrespectful --- "no, theres no compariosn at all. he's me, and im him" - basicaly what he was sayin
NOW this is a "diss" --- "kanye who? LOL. NO way in hell. lmao hahaha that guy? yeah, right"
ya dig? :)
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Some of you are stupid lol. Of course there is no comparison and I work in the industry but don't know who Quincy Jones is ::) Get real
LMFAO @ "i don't work in the industry" :D
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what has quincy jones produced lately that even rivals what kanye has done 01- 2010 ?
LMFAO are you serious ?
this thread should be locked after this post :-X
what relevant r&b singer has a current quincy jones production ? ok then.
i really don't know how relevant is this unknow guy that goes by the name of Michael Jackson ::)
oh... wacko jacko ( yeah i said it). the latest shit he's done for michael pales in comparison to an album like thriller.
after my last reply you should stop posting in this thread if you have a little bit of dignity...
your last reply is dog shit on a sidewalk.
ok kid, you are the winner. do you want an ice cream ?
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the guy who compared Kanye wit Quincy, should slit his throat wit his Kanye CD.. :-*
do u think Justin Timebrlake is more important/sonically talented than Marvin Gaye?
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the guy who compared Kanye wit Quincy, should slit his throat wit his Kanye CD.. :-*
do u think Justin Timebrlake is more important/sonically talented than Marvin Gaye?
what has quincy jones produced lately that even rivals what kanye has done 01- 2010 ?
LMFAO :laugh:
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My guess is that Quincy Jones takes into consideration that the majority of Kanye's work, mostly his early work, is heavily based on sample use. Quincy is known for producing, orchestrating and arranging records that are mainly driven by live instrumentation. I love both producers, I mean to each his own...I don't think Quincy was trying to knock him, I guess he's just implying their styles and methods are completely different. I've read interviews where Timbaland comes off kinda like Quincy did, a little arrogant...more of an old school mentality, I guess. It's funny, the last two records I copped were actually Quincy's and Kanye's.
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Quincy owns all.
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Some of you are stupid lol. Of course there is no comparison and I work in the industry but don't know who Quincy Jones is ::) Get real
I'm just saying he does sound like a douche in that interview. Didn't need to diss Kanye like that. He could have been more subtle.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Some people on here really make me wonder sometimes..lol
Quincy Jones > God.
Listen to "Angel" on L.A.X. & tell me that sounds different from the original song it was sampled from lol.
Kanye is great, don't get me wrong; but "he's just a rapper, there is no comparison".
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1st off he didnt put Kanye in his place, he was just separating himself.... similar to what Eminem had to do when he 1st hit mainstream.
also this thread is pointless when its for a bunch of kids to read. To them Fruity Loops making them Dr Dre, sampling makes them Kanye, Designing myspace pages makes them CEO's.
thnx for the read, very good thread. 8)
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1st off he didnt put Kanye in his place, he was just separating himself....
ok ::)
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I can't even begin to.... Oh, good lord, is this serious? Are people really gonna bring in the question of current pop music relevance with this? It's like saying Michael Bay can be in the same group as Stanley Kubrick because "what was Stanley's last hit"? Sorry, but you people can't be for real. Like somebody else said, if we're gonna compare Kanye with anyone, start with Dr. Dre.
oh... wacko jacko ( yeah i said it). the latest shit he's done for michael pales in comparison to an album like thriller.
Well, um, don't know if you know this but just all those post-Jackson 5 Michael songs that literally made him into the biggest pop star in the fucking world where produced by Quincy Jones. Many of them were written by Quincy.
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God Bless Quincy.
He's not full of himself, but he does sound insulted, as well he should. Here is a guy who spent his life with musical theory and instrumentation and learned how to produce it in every which way, and to compare him to a new age frooty loops beatmaker is ridiculous. Quincy could probably tell you how a piece of music should be recorded and produced by simply reading the notes of each page.
If I were James Cameron and spent my life studying film and how to create images that tell a story and someone compared me to a youtube skit maker that made it huge, like Andy Samberg, I'd be offended too.
Kanye isn't a music producer in the true sense of the term. You could not put Kanye with musicians the same way you could Quincy. Kanye is an artist that creates his own art, but that doesn't make him a great producer, whether or not his own art is great or not.
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I don't even think the Cameron comparison would be appropriate either. Cameron's film career goes back to the 80's, Quincy's been making music since the 50's.
And for the record, Quincy himself addressed this. Here's what he had to say:
“I have nothing but respect for my little brother Kanye and what he has achieved in his young career and I look forward to watching his evolution as an artist. There is a reason why we put him on the new We Are The World 25 for Haiti – he’s a great rapper. But having been in the music business for more than 60 years and having been fortunate to accomplish what I have over that time, it’s not unreasonable to put a comparison of Kanye at this time in his career and myself into the proper perspective. This is not dissing Kanye, this is simply trying to express that I’m not a rapper! I don’t need to take anyone else’s props away from them. Let’s all just try and keep the record straight.”
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I would agree that it's better to compare Kanye to Dre, not QJ. If you compare Kanye to Quiny Jones, it better be Quincy Jones III, or QDIII, his son. Even Kanye would agree though. His at least not going to compare himself to Quincy, I've heard Pete Rock but not Quincy.
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It's funny how a lot of people on this board would go ape shit at a Pac-Lil Wayne comparison but they can get comfortable with Kanye-Quincy Jones?
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Quincy could probably can tell you how a piece of music should be recorded and produced by simply reading the notes of each page.
fixed ;)
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didnt put kanye in his place..put the interviewer in his place
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didnt put kanye in his place..put the interviewer in his place
he put kanye in his place, because kanye thinks to be more than just a producer/rapper....
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didnt put kanye in his place..put the interviewer in his place
he put kanye in his place, because kanye thinks to be more than just a producer/rapper....
your mother has HIV :D
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didnt put kanye in his place..put the interviewer in his place
That's a good point. And I think it's important that people note that distinction. It seems to me that Jones wasn't going out of his way to insult Kanye West so much as he was telling the interviewer that he disagreed with the comparison, once prompted by the interviewer's point.
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didnt put kanye in his place..put the interviewer in his place
That's a good point. And I think it's important that people note that distinction. It seems to me that Jones wasn't going out of his way to insult Kanye West so much as he was telling the interviewer that he disagreed with the comparison, once prompted by the interviewer's point.
It's important ? ::)
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what has quincy jones produced lately that even rivals what kanye has done 01- 2010 ?
LMFAO are you serious ?
this thread should be locked after this post :-X
what relevant r&b singer has a current quincy jones production ? ok then.
i really don't know how relevant is this unknow guy that goes by the name of Michael Jackson ::)
oh... wacko jacko ( yeah i said it). the latest shit he's done for michael pales in comparison to an album like thriller.
after my last reply you should stop posting in this thread if you have a little bit of dignity...
your last reply is dog shit on a sidewalk.
ok kid, you are the winner. do you want an ice cream ?
fuck off !
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I can't even begin to.... Oh, good lord, is this serious? Are people really gonna bring in the question of current pop music relevance with this? It's like saying Michael Bay can be in the same group as Stanley Kubrick because "what was Stanley's last hit"? Sorry, but you people can't be for real. Like somebody else said, if we're gonna compare Kanye with anyone, start with Dr. Dre.
oh... wacko jacko ( yeah i said it). the latest shit he's done for michael pales in comparison to an album like thriller.
Well, um, don't know if you know this but just all those post-Jackson 5 Michael songs that literally made him into the biggest pop star in the fucking world where produced by Quincy Jones. Many of them were written by Quincy.
yeah i know that. i'm talking 2001- now. not sayin kanye is on q's level at all just saying kanye's not just a rapper.
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The people saying he didn't diss Kanye are the ones who are reading the interview properly. He was putting the interviewer in their place clearly. Also to the people asking what Quincy has done lately maybe you need to google the guy because he has just released a collab album with well known artists all over it and even made Snoop sound alright!
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didnt put kanye in his place..put the interviewer in his place
That's a good point. And I think it's important that people note that distinction. It seems to me that Jones wasn't going out of his way to insult Kanye West so much as he was telling the interviewer that he disagreed with the comparison, once prompted by the interviewer's point.
It's important ? ::)
Is it "meaning-of-life-important? No. Is it "understanding-the-context-of-Quincy-Jone's-comments" important? Yes.
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Kanye opened up himself to this... If he would of said HIP HOP producer then YES. So in 2025 if he is still around ( Dr dre been around for 25 years) then he can call himself the best.
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didnt put kanye in his place..put the interviewer in his place
That's a good point. And I think it's important that people note that distinction. It seems to me that Jones wasn't going out of his way to insult Kanye West so much as he was telling the interviewer that he disagreed with the comparison, once prompted by the interviewer's point.
It's important ? ::)
Is it "meaning-of-life-important? No. Is it "understanding-the-context-of-Quincy-Jone's-comments" important? Yes.
If "you" need to understand the context of his comments you are retarded or slow (i'm not talking about you Johnny ;) )
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like i said befor some coward deleted my post...Mr.jones can say what he wants ,when he wants,and how he wants..period....half the samples in hiphop Quincy had something to do with..
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like i said befor some coward deleted my post...Mr.jones can say what he wants ,when he wants,and how he wants..period....half the samples in hiphop Quincy had something to do with..
AMEN
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LOL @ comparing Ganye West to a legend like Quincy Jones :laugh:
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Sometimes I get the feeling that Kanye's ego is fake, and only an attempt to get more publicity. It is way over the top.
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didnt put kanye in his place..put the interviewer in his place
That's a good point. And I think it's important that people note that distinction. It seems to me that Jones wasn't going out of his way to insult Kanye West so much as he was telling the interviewer that he disagreed with the comparison, once prompted by the interviewer's point.
It's important ? ::)
Is it "meaning-of-life-important? No. Is it "understanding-the-context-of-Quincy-Jone's-comments" important? Yes.
If "you" need to understand the context of his comments you are retarded or slow (i'm not talking about you Johnny ;) )
It's all good. It's just that in my opinion if someone just read Jones's comments, I could see where it would sound a bit arrogant. But if someone understood that those comments were in response to the interviewer drawing a comparison between Jones and Kanye West, I don't think what he says sounds all that harsh. Of course I don't know for sure, but I don't think it was Jones's intention to insult Kanye West so much as he was just telling the interviewer that he doesn't see that much of similarity between himself and West. Just my opinion.
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Is Ye on QUincy's level? Of course not, and not many are.
Having said that, Quincy's response that Kanye is "just a rapper" was some stupid shit. Kanye has changed the game, influenced it more than anyone else over the last 10 years, and has produced arguable classics for himself and others. His music, like it or not, transcends hip hop and will stand the test of time.
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Quincy just stated the obvious. How was he being arrogant? If he waned to be arrogant he could of laughed at that question for about 8 minutes and then kicked the interviewer out for asking that question.
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Quincy Jones just stated the facts, but the lack of education in todays, the youth is stupid enough to believe that Kanye is on some Mozart status of music
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Quincy just stated the obvious. How was he being arrogant? If he waned to be arrogant he could of laughed at that question for about 8 minutes and then kicked the interviewer out for asking that question.
LMAO
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Is Ye on QUincy's level? Of course not, and not many are.
Having said that, Quincy's response that Kanye is "just a rapper" was some stupid shit. Kanye has changed the game, influenced it more than anyone else over the last 10 years, and has produced arguable classics for himself and others. His music, like it or not, transcends hip hop and will stand the test of time.
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this.
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Is Ye on QUincy's level? Of course not, and not many are.
Having said that, Quincy's response that Kanye is "just a rapper" was some stupid shit. Kanye has changed the game, influenced it more than anyone else over the last 10 years, and has produced arguable classics for himself and others. His music, like it or not, transcends hip hop and will stand the test of time.
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this.
is a funny post :D
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Is Ye on QUincy's level? Of course not, and not many are.
Having said that, Quincy's response that Kanye is "just a rapper" was some stupid shit. Kanye has changed the game, influenced it more than anyone else over the last 10 years, and has produced arguable classics for himself and others. His music, like it or not, transcends hip hop and will stand the test of time.
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even if he gets Celine Dion to sing on his shit, even if he learns how to play a saxophone - Kanye will only be a rapper, compared to Quincy Jones.. just a rapper.. he doesnt even know how to play any instrument, play the piano, lead/arrange an orchestra.. "stand the test of time" - :-\
kanye west is a producer, that flips soul-vax for his beats.. and then he raps on em.. thats Kanye West, dont get it tiwisted.. a comparison wit Q is blasphemy
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Is Ye on QUincy's level? Of course not, and not many are.
Having said that, Quincy's response that Kanye is "just a rapper" was some stupid shit. Kanye has changed the game, influenced it more than anyone else over the last 10 years, and has produced arguable classics for himself and others. His music, like it or not, transcends hip hop and will stand the test of time.
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even if he gets Celine Dion to sing on his shit, even if he learns how to play a saxophone - Kanye will only be a rapper, compared to Quincy Jones.. just a rapper.. he doesnt even know how to play any instrument, play the piano, lead/arrange an orchestra.. "stand the test of time" - :-\
kanye west is a producer, that flips soul-vax for his beats.. and then he raps on em.. thats Kanye West, dont get it tiwisted.. a comparison wit Q is blasphemy
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