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Title: 15 Rappers Who Never Dropped A Classic Album Listed By HipHopWired
Post by: CORREA on March 26, 2015, 05:57:27 PM
Method Man, Pusha T and Lil Wayne are among the rappers included in the list.

“Still Waiting: 15 Veteran Rappers Who Never Dropped A Classic Album” is a new listed curated by HipHopWired that lists a collection of Rap’s elite who have never dropped a “classic” album.

“Let the people tell it, Kendrick Lamar is 2/2 in the classic album department, coming off the heels of his first No. 1 album in To Pimp a Butterfly,” the article says. “Which makes the number of OG rappers who never dropped a classic album that more glaring.

“Don’t take it as a diss,” the piece adds. “Take it as a challenge.”

Included in the list is Method Man, Ludacris, Busta Rhymes, Jadakiss and Rick Ross.

Towards the top of the list is Pusha T, who released his long-in-the-making debut solo studio album My Name Is My Name in late 2013. Pusha is now eyeing up a spring release for his sophomore album King Push.

“'Unorthodox' has become synonymous with Pusha T’s music, back to records like 'Grindin,’” Pusha said in an interview with Rolling Stone last December. “Everybody’s gonna be really locked in and shocked to see how I’ve raised the level of musicality from My Name Is My Name to King Push."

Weighing in at the top of the list is Young Money’s Lil Wayne. Weezy’s Tha Carter IV, the latest in the Carter series, sold over 950,000 units in its first week on the shelves making it one of 2011’s best selling albums. However, his Tha Carter V has suffered from a series of public label issues, resulting in Wayne wanting to reportedly sue Cash Money Records’ CEO Birdman for $51 million.

"Being shunned either does one of two things to a man," HipHopWired writes. "Weezy obviously hasn’t given up so expect him to keep tinkering with his long-delayed Carter V so he’s not apologizing again on a new mixtape."

During an interview with Rolling Stone, Wayne described the project as being completely finished.

"Cake baked, icing on top, name on top, candles lit," Wayne says about his Tha Carter V. "I would have released it yesterday if I could. But it's a dead subject right now. It's a jewel in the safe. It's that stash-house money."


  To view the list in its entirety, visit http://hiphopwired.com/2015/03/25/rappers-who-never-dropped-a-classic-album/
Title: Re: 15 Rappers Who Never Dropped A Classic Album Listed By HipHopWired
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on March 26, 2015, 06:36:03 PM
i hate these faggots who say Method Man never dropped a classic
Title: Re: 15 Rappers Who Never Dropped A Classic Album Listed By HipHopWired
Post by: doggfather on March 26, 2015, 11:43:39 PM
i hate these faggots who say Method Man never dropped a classic

Tought the same. What is tical then?
Title: Re: 15 Rappers Who Never Dropped A Classic Album Listed By HipHopWired
Post by: CORREA on March 27, 2015, 12:29:32 AM
to me i always knew Method Man was good but i was never interested with his music i hear something from him that was lyrically dope but in the same time was boring me he was missing charisma and better production in his music 
Title: Re: 15 Rappers Who Never Dropped A Classic Album Listed By HipHopWired
Post by: Sccit on March 27, 2015, 12:57:18 AM
METHOD MANS NOT EVEN ON THE LIST
Title: Re: 15 Rappers Who Never Dropped A Classic Album Listed By HipHopWired
Post by: doggfather on March 27, 2015, 03:47:47 AM
METHOD MANS NOT EVEN ON THE LIST

?
Title: Re: 15 Rappers Who Never Dropped A Classic Album Listed By HipHopWired
Post by: Blood$ on March 27, 2015, 09:53:28 AM
Tical wasn't a classic lol solid album but far from classic, nowhere near the same level as the Wu solos from Rae, Ghost, and GZA
Title: Re: 15 Rappers Who Never Dropped A Classic Album Listed By HipHopWired
Post by: Sccit on March 27, 2015, 09:58:20 AM
Nevermind lol I was scrolling the list n didn't see he was the first 1......every1 else is on point tho, especially busta
Title: Re: 15 Rappers Who Never Dropped A Classic Album Listed By HipHopWired
Post by: M Dogg™ on March 27, 2015, 10:49:14 AM
To me, Tical is a very solid album, but it's not a classic. A classic changes the game. Some rappers have multiple classics, like 2Pac. Some have that one classic that is the highlight to their career, like Jay-Z and Blueprint. Others started out with that classic and it launched them to stardom, like Snoop and Nas. But a classic is very hard to judge, and it's very hard to gauge. Music is art, and art is subjective. I think we get so caught up that an artist has to have a classic album to be taken serious, that we give the title classic to albums that may not be just to give an artist a classic album.

According to the Source, these albums are classics:

Quote
* Peoples Instinctive Travels & the Paths of Rhythm - A Tribe Called Quest
* Let the Rhythm Hit 'Em -- Eric B. & Rakim
* AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted -- Ice Cube
* Grip It! On That Other Level -- Geto Boys
* One for All -- Brand Nubian
* De La Soul Is Dead -- De La Soul
* The Low End Theory -- A Tribe Called Quest
* Run-D.M.C. -- Run-D.M.C.
* Radio -- LL Cool J
* Licensed to Ill -- Beastie Boys
* Raising Hell -- Run-D.M.C.
* Criminal Minded -- Boogie Down Productions
* Paid in Full -- Eric B. & Rakim
* By All Means Necessary -- Boogie Down Productions
* It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back -- Public Enemy
* Long Live the Kane -- Big Daddy Kane
* Critical Beatdown -- Ultramagnetic MCs
* Straight Out the Jungle -- Jungle Brothers
* Strictly Business -- EPMD
* The Great Adventures of Slick Rick -- Slick Rick
* Straight Outta Compton -- N.W.A.
* No One Can Do It Better -- The D.O.C.
* Breaking Atoms -- Main Source
* Death Certificate -- Ice Cube
* The Diary -- Scarface
* Doggystyle -- Snoop Doggy Dogg
* The Chronic -- Dr. Dre
* Illmatic -- Nas
* Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) -- Wu-Tang Clan
* The Infamous -- Mobb Deep
* Only Built 4 Cuban Linx... -- Raekwon
* Me Against the World -- 2Pac
* Ready to Die -- The Notorious B.I.G.
* Reasonable Doubt -- Jay-Z
* All Eyez on Me -- 2Pac
* Life After Death -- The Notorious B.I.G.
* The Score -- The Fugees
* Aquemini -- Outkast
* 2001 -- Dr. Dre
* The Blueprint -- Jay-Z
* Stillmatic -- Nas
* The Fix -- Scarface
* The Naked Truth -- Lil' Kim
* Trill OG -- Bun B
* My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy -- Kanye West

And according to XXL these albums are classics:

Quote
* The Chronic by Dr. Dre
* Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) by Wu-Tang Clan
* Illmatic by Nas
* The Diary by Scarface
* The Infamous by Mobb Deep
* All Eyez on Me by 2Pac
* Reasonable Doubt by Jay-Z
* The Don Killuminati: The 7 Day Theory by 2Pac
* Life After Death by The Notorious B.I.G.
* The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill by Lauryn Hill
* 2001 by Dr. Dre
* The Marshall Mathers LP by Eminem
* The Blueprint by Jay-Z
* Get Rich or Die Tryin' by 50 Cent
* The Lost Tapes by Nas
* The College Dropout by Kanye West
* Be by Common
* Late Registration by Kanye West
* Hell Hath No Fury by Clipse
* My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy by Kanye West
* Life Is Good by Nas
* good kid, m.A.A.d city by Kendrick Lamar

There is some cross over, and there is some differences. And fans of certain rapper will use the list that has their favorite rapper to justify their claims.

With all of that said, those on the list don't have albums in either list. As someone pointed out earlier, and I agree, Method Man has not put out an album as good as many Wu members solo albums. So would Tical still be a classic, or is Tical a very solid album which is a personal classic of Method Man? I think Carter III is a classic album, just because of the impact it had, but no major magazine seems to agree, so am I off base with that. It's not like it's even in my top 25 hip-hop albums, but the way people responded, it seemed to be on it's way to classic status. Though over time, the impact of that album is very minimal and it seems as a whole the Carter series is what people remember and not any actual Carter albums. But then does that make the whole series classic, or just a put of albums younger fans liked? Labeling things classic is very tricky.
Title: Re: 15 Rappers Who Never Dropped A Classic Album Listed By HipHopWired
Post by: Chamillitary Click on March 27, 2015, 01:38:40 PM
Mood Muzik 2 & Padded Room were classics.
Title: Re: 15 Rappers Who Never Dropped A Classic Album Listed By HipHopWired
Post by: BIGWORM on March 27, 2015, 03:41:25 PM
LMFAO!

If Pusha-T never dropped a classic album my name is Pimp-C!!!

If "Lord Willin" by The Clipse isn't considered classic, non on those lists are....
Title: Re: 15 Rappers Who Never Dropped A Classic Album Listed By HipHopWired
Post by: Sccit on March 27, 2015, 03:59:19 PM
LMFAO!

If Pusha-T never dropped a classic album my name is Pimp-C!!!

If "Lord Willin" by The Clipse isn't considered classic, non on those lists are....


THEY NOT COUNTIN GROUP EFFORTS, OTHERWISE METHOD MAN GOT CLASSICS WIT WU
Title: Re: 15 Rappers Who Never Dropped A Classic Album Listed By HipHopWired
Post by: Blood$ on March 27, 2015, 04:52:21 PM
LMFAO!

If Pusha-T never dropped a classic album my name is Pimp-C!!!

If "Lord Willin" by The Clipse isn't considered classic, non on those lists are....

all of Pusha T's solo tapes and MNIMN are classics  8)
Title: Re: 15 Rappers Who Never Dropped A Classic Album Listed By HipHopWired
Post by: BIGWORM on March 27, 2015, 05:42:23 PM
Ahh my bad I stopped reading after I read Kendrick was 2/2 on classic album's IMO he doesn't even have a classic song let alone album.
Title: Re: 15 Rappers Who Never Dropped A Classic Album Listed By HipHopWired
Post by: CORREA on March 27, 2015, 07:45:48 PM
Ahh my bad I stopped reading after I read Kendrick was 2/2 on classic album's IMO he doesn't even have a classic song let alone album.

lol you must be one of them stuck in the 90s trying to hold on wake up
Title: Re: 15 Rappers Who Never Dropped A Classic Album Listed By HipHopWired
Post by: BIGWORM on March 27, 2015, 08:11:43 PM
^ You shouldn't assume my friend. If being "stuck in the 90's" means that my favorite "age" in hip hop was the 90's, your god damn right. However if it means because I'm not a Kendrick nut hugger, your absolutely mistaken. I do believe that this is the worst time for hip hop but its also the best because I don't have to listen to that hip pop, trap shit or westcoast hipster music. I listen to a whole shit load of new artists and like what they are doing. But to be a bit more honest hip hop/rap isn't even in my top 5 genres of music anymore.

But back to Kendrick having "classic" albums LMFAO stop comparing it to Riff Raff and lets see how classic it really is. Like I said not even a classic song let alone album.

If you can be kind enough to give me a title of one of his songs you consider "classic" let me know so I can listen to what the people that aren't stuck in the 90's like. 
Title: Re: 15 Rappers Who Never Dropped A Classic Album Listed By HipHopWired
Post by: M Dogg™ on March 27, 2015, 08:57:07 PM
^ You shouldn't assume my friend. If being "stuck in the 90's" means that my favorite "age" in hip hop was the 90's, your god damn right. However if it means because I'm not a Kendrick nut hugger, your absolutely mistaken. I do believe that this is the worst time for hip hop but its also the best because I don't have to listen to that hip pop, trap shit or westcoast hipster music. I listen to a whole shit load of new artists and like what they are doing. But to be a bit more honest hip hop/rap isn't even in my top 5 genres of music anymore.

But back to Kendrick having "classic" albums LMFAO stop comparing it to Riff Raff and lets see how classic it really is. Like I said not even a classic song let alone album.

If you can be kind enough to give me a title of one of his songs you consider "classic" let me know so I can listen to what the people that aren't stuck in the 90's like. 

Just a song? m.A.A.d. city, Blacker the Berry, I'm Dying of Thrust, How Much a Dollar Cost
Title: Re: 15 Rappers Who Never Dropped A Classic Album Listed By HipHopWired
Post by: Sccit on March 27, 2015, 10:32:36 PM
^ You shouldn't assume my friend. If being "stuck in the 90's" means that my favorite "age" in hip hop was the 90's, your god damn right. However if it means because I'm not a Kendrick nut hugger, your absolutely mistaken. I do believe that this is the worst time for hip hop but its also the best because I don't have to listen to that hip pop, trap shit or westcoast hipster music. I listen to a whole shit load of new artists and like what they are doing. But to be a bit more honest hip hop/rap isn't even in my top 5 genres of music anymore.

But back to Kendrick having "classic" albums LMFAO stop comparing it to Riff Raff and lets see how classic it really is. Like I said not even a classic song let alone album.

If you can be kind enough to give me a title of one of his songs you consider "classic" let me know so I can listen to what the people that aren't stuck in the 90's like. 



i agree, gkmc is a great album, but not classic....compared to true classics of the golden era, it's not even close. and it's not about bein stuck in the past, because theres still dope shit out there. but shit typically gets worse with time. just like people age and eventually get worse, same goes for everything in life...including rap music. gkmc may be a modern day "classic", just like the miami heat were a modern day dynasty....but compared to the chronic, or compared to the nba dynastys of the 80s, it's not even close. showtime lakers woulda swept the heat @mdogg
Title: Re: 15 Rappers Who Never Dropped A Classic Album Listed By HipHopWired
Post by: M Dogg™ on March 27, 2015, 10:59:51 PM
^ You shouldn't assume my friend. If being "stuck in the 90's" means that my favorite "age" in hip hop was the 90's, your god damn right. However if it means because I'm not a Kendrick nut hugger, your absolutely mistaken. I do believe that this is the worst time for hip hop but its also the best because I don't have to listen to that hip pop, trap shit or westcoast hipster music. I listen to a whole shit load of new artists and like what they are doing. But to be a bit more honest hip hop/rap isn't even in my top 5 genres of music anymore.

But back to Kendrick having "classic" albums LMFAO stop comparing it to Riff Raff and lets see how classic it really is. Like I said not even a classic song let alone album.

If you can be kind enough to give me a title of one of his songs you consider "classic" let me know so I can listen to what the people that aren't stuck in the 90's like. 



i agree, gkmc is a great album, but not classic....compared to true classics of the golden era, it's not even close. and it's not about bein stuck in the past, because theres still dope shit out there. but shit typically gets worse with time. just like people age and eventually get worse, same goes for everything in life...including rap music. gkmc may be a modern day "classic", just like the miami heat were a modern day dynasty....but compared to the chronic, or compared to the nba dynastys of the 80s, it's not even close. showtime lakers woulda swept the heat @mdogg

LMAO... Showtime vs. the Heat. Of course Showtime sweeps the Heat, and does so by an average of 15 points, only because Magic got bored.
Title: Re: 15 Rappers Who Never Dropped A Classic Album Listed By HipHopWired
Post by: Sccit on March 27, 2015, 11:02:12 PM
^ You shouldn't assume my friend. If being "stuck in the 90's" means that my favorite "age" in hip hop was the 90's, your god damn right. However if it means because I'm not a Kendrick nut hugger, your absolutely mistaken. I do believe that this is the worst time for hip hop but its also the best because I don't have to listen to that hip pop, trap shit or westcoast hipster music. I listen to a whole shit load of new artists and like what they are doing. But to be a bit more honest hip hop/rap isn't even in my top 5 genres of music anymore.

But back to Kendrick having "classic" albums LMFAO stop comparing it to Riff Raff and lets see how classic it really is. Like I said not even a classic song let alone album.

If you can be kind enough to give me a title of one of his songs you consider "classic" let me know so I can listen to what the people that aren't stuck in the 90's like. 



i agree, gkmc is a great album, but not classic....compared to true classics of the golden era, it's not even close. and it's not about bein stuck in the past, because theres still dope shit out there. but shit typically gets worse with time. just like people age and eventually get worse, same goes for everything in life...including rap music. gkmc may be a modern day "classic", just like the miami heat were a modern day dynasty....but compared to the chronic, or compared to the nba dynastys of the 80s, it's not even close. showtime lakers woulda swept the heat @mdogg

LMAO... Showtime vs. the Heat. Of course Showtime sweeps the Heat, and does so by an average of 15 points, only because Magic got bored.

my ficca
Title: Re: 15 Rappers Who Never Dropped A Classic Album Listed By HipHopWired
Post by: M Dogg™ on March 27, 2015, 11:24:41 PM
^ You shouldn't assume my friend. If being "stuck in the 90's" means that my favorite "age" in hip hop was the 90's, your god damn right. However if it means because I'm not a Kendrick nut hugger, your absolutely mistaken. I do believe that this is the worst time for hip hop but its also the best because I don't have to listen to that hip pop, trap shit or westcoast hipster music. I listen to a whole shit load of new artists and like what they are doing. But to be a bit more honest hip hop/rap isn't even in my top 5 genres of music anymore.

But back to Kendrick having "classic" albums LMFAO stop comparing it to Riff Raff and lets see how classic it really is. Like I said not even a classic song let alone album.

If you can be kind enough to give me a title of one of his songs you consider "classic" let me know so I can listen to what the people that aren't stuck in the 90's like.  



i agree, gkmc is a great album, but not classic....compared to true classics of the golden era, it's not even close. and it's not about bein stuck in the past, because theres still dope shit out there. but shit typically gets worse with time. just like people age and eventually get worse, same goes for everything in life...including rap music. gkmc may be a modern day "classic", just like the miami heat were a modern day dynasty....but compared to the chronic, or compared to the nba dynastys of the 80s, it's not even close. showtime lakers woulda swept the heat @mdogg

LMAO... Showtime vs. the Heat. Of course Showtime sweeps the Heat, and does so by an average of 15 points, only because Magic got bored.

my ficca

Dude, when LeBron first left I said the Heat wouldn't win for long, and they struggled to win coming out a weak east. The east is historically bad, like worst conference of all time levels right now.
Title: Re: 15 Rappers Who Never Dropped A Classic Album Listed By HipHopWired
Post by: Sccit on March 28, 2015, 12:32:15 AM
^ You shouldn't assume my friend. If being "stuck in the 90's" means that my favorite "age" in hip hop was the 90's, your god damn right. However if it means because I'm not a Kendrick nut hugger, your absolutely mistaken. I do believe that this is the worst time for hip hop but its also the best because I don't have to listen to that hip pop, trap shit or westcoast hipster music. I listen to a whole shit load of new artists and like what they are doing. But to be a bit more honest hip hop/rap isn't even in my top 5 genres of music anymore.

But back to Kendrick having "classic" albums LMFAO stop comparing it to Riff Raff and lets see how classic it really is. Like I said not even a classic song let alone album.

If you can be kind enough to give me a title of one of his songs you consider "classic" let me know so I can listen to what the people that aren't stuck in the 90's like.  



i agree, gkmc is a great album, but not classic....compared to true classics of the golden era, it's not even close. and it's not about bein stuck in the past, because theres still dope shit out there. but shit typically gets worse with time. just like people age and eventually get worse, same goes for everything in life...including rap music. gkmc may be a modern day "classic", just like the miami heat were a modern day dynasty....but compared to the chronic, or compared to the nba dynastys of the 80s, it's not even close. showtime lakers woulda swept the heat @mdogg

LMAO... Showtime vs. the Heat. Of course Showtime sweeps the Heat, and does so by an average of 15 points, only because Magic got bored.

my ficca

Dude, when LeBron first left I said the Heat wouldn't win for long, and they struggled to win coming out a weak east. The east is historically bad, like worst conference of all time levels right now.

really tho...western conference playoffs is must watch tv

eastern conference playoffs guna be like preseason compared 2 that shit
Title: Re: 15 Rappers Who Never Dropped A Classic Album Listed By HipHopWired
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on March 28, 2015, 02:35:37 AM



THEY NOT COUNTIN GROUP EFFORTS, OTHERWISE METHOD MAN GOT CLASSICS WIT WU

True... And that's the reason I don't think Meth should be on this list, because 36 Chambers is a classic.  It would be like saying that Kurupt never had a classic album, and not giving him his necessary props for Dogg Food?

...and btw, TICAL IS NOT A CLASSIC.  Even Meth admits it was sloppy, rushed, and should've been a lot better.  It contained two classic solo joints though, "Bring The Pain" is one of the greatest hip-hop songs and videos of all-time and so is "All I Need" with Mary J. 
Title: Re: 15 Rappers Who Never Dropped A Classic Album Listed By HipHopWired
Post by: HighEyeCue on March 28, 2015, 04:30:25 PM



THEY NOT COUNTIN GROUP EFFORTS, OTHERWISE METHOD MAN GOT CLASSICS WIT WU

True... And that's the reason I don't think Meth should be on this list, because 36 Chambers is a classic.  It would be like saying that Kurupt never had a classic album, and not giving him his necessary props for Dogg Food?

...and btw, TICAL IS NOT A CLASSIC.  Even Meth admits it was sloppy, rushed, and should've been a lot better.  It contained two classic solo joints though, "Bring The Pain" is one of the greatest hip-hop songs and videos of all-time and so is "All I Need" with Mary J. 

agreed...to not include group efforts is kind of silly

btw "Tical" didnt contain "All I Need" with Mary J, that was the remix version
Title: Re: 15 Rappers Who Never Dropped A Classic Album Listed By HipHopWired
Post by: M Dogg™ on March 28, 2015, 06:34:50 PM
I will say, if the remix never happened, the original track would still be seen as a classic track as Method Man ripped that song. But once you hear the remix, then you can never hear the original the same... LOL. That remix was just amazing. But Method Man held his own, and once the right mix was laid down it really highlighted how great Method Man's performance on that song was.
Title: Re: 15 Rappers Who Never Dropped A Classic Album Listed By HipHopWired
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on March 28, 2015, 08:12:40 PM
ya'll are stupid if you don't think Tical is a classic
Title: Re: 15 Rappers Who Never Dropped A Classic Album Listed By HipHopWired
Post by: M Dogg™ on March 28, 2015, 09:41:14 PM
ya'll are stupid if you don't think Tical is a classic


I mean, was it as good as Raekwon or Ghostface Killah's albums?
Title: Re: 15 Rappers Who Never Dropped A Classic Album Listed By HipHopWired
Post by: Free Suge Knight, Gucci Mane, & BShmurda Welcome Home Tray D on March 29, 2015, 06:57:03 AM
ya'll are stupid if you don't think Tical is a classic


I mean, was it as good as Raekwon or Ghostface Killah's albums?



Absolutely!





I love that album.  It was one of the first albums that I remembered every word to Bar for Bar.




But excluding my own personal sentimental value to it I would say to your point of comparing the three is that it holds it's own.  Not just to those two but to all of the other Wu releases as well.  And I question the person who says it doesn't


And whole time the album wasn't even completed right (allegedly), just like "Doggystyle".  So just imagine if he would've held out for another 3-4 months and actually went in a little deeper into the Production side of it.  
Title: Re: 15 Rappers Who Never Dropped A Classic Album Listed By HipHopWired
Post by: Free Suge Knight, Gucci Mane, & BShmurda Welcome Home Tray D on March 29, 2015, 07:35:32 AM
No "Adrenaline Rush" tho.



I'm starting to be convinced that anybody who has a College Education or is in the process of getting one should be allowed LIMITED access to Hip Hop Panels, Editorials, and Commissions.




The gaps in these articles I be readin be hurtin
Title: Re: 15 Rappers Who Never Dropped A Classic Album Listed By HipHopWired
Post by: M Dogg™ on March 29, 2015, 11:32:07 AM
ya'll are stupid if you don't think Tical is a classic


I mean, was it as good as Raekwon or Ghostface Killah's albums?



Absolutely!





I love that album.  It was one of the first albums that I remembered every word to Bar for Bar.




But excluding my own personal sentimental value to it I would say to your point of comparing the three is that it holds it's own.  Not just to those two but to all of the other Wu releases as well.  And I question the person who says it doesn't


And whole time the album wasn't even completed right (allegedly), just like "Doggystyle".  So just imagine if he would've held out for another 3-4 months and actually went in a little deeper into the Production side of it.  

Really? Hum? You know you are one of very few that share this right?
Title: Re: 15 Rappers Who Never Dropped A Classic Album Listed By HipHopWired
Post by: Free Suge Knight, Gucci Mane, & BShmurda Welcome Home Tray D on March 29, 2015, 02:31:31 PM
Proof of this claim or devoid of said statements and arguments proclaimed in Thread
Title: Re: 15 Rappers Who Never Dropped A Classic Album Listed By HipHopWired
Post by: M Dogg™ on March 29, 2015, 03:44:46 PM
Proof of this claim or devoid of said statements and arguments proclaimed in Thread

http://genius.com/discussions/55763-Is-method-mans-album-tical-considered-a-classic

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080725141008AAL0wJg

http://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/method_man/tical/
Title: Re: 15 Rappers Who Never Dropped A Classic Album Listed By HipHopWired
Post by: Free Suge Knight, Gucci Mane, & BShmurda Welcome Home Tray D on March 29, 2015, 04:21:14 PM
Sorry but I'm just not making a connection here, there seems to be a giant ball of gas leaking thru my screen....



Again, show proof. 



The only credible reason why "Tical" gets slightly overlooked by those two albums is becuz Meth is more commercial and always has been, especially compared to the entire Clan with the moreso "recent" exposure RZA has gotten.




And in the listeners mind that means something.  But I don't have to tell you that, you already know. 




You're not gonna sit up here and tell me that "Tical" doesn't embody literally everything The Wu has ever been about except for the Knowledge part (which I admit is pretty Core to their values). 


Another reason why it gets overlooked is becuz all of his albums after that were underwhelming and don't capture that Raw, Gritty, and Grimyness that "Tical" has.



If you talk about "Time Capsule Music" then "Tical" is one of the frontrunners for not just Hip Hop but all music in general.  Everything about that project is unique and the album sticks out like a slipped disk
Title: Re: 15 Rappers Who Never Dropped A Classic Album Listed By HipHopWired
Post by: M Dogg™ on March 29, 2015, 06:08:36 PM
Sorry but I'm just not making a connection here, there seems to be a giant ball of gas leaking thru my screen....



Again, show proof. 



The only credible reason why "Tical" gets slightly overlooked by those two albums is becuz Meth is more commercial and always has been, especially compared to the entire Clan with the moreso "recent" exposure RZA has gotten.




And in the listeners mind that means something.  But I don't have to tell you that, you already know. 




You're not gonna sit up here and tell me that "Tical" doesn't embody literally everything The Wu has ever been about except for the Knowledge part (which I admit is pretty Core to their values). 


Another reason why it gets overlooked is becuz all of his albums after that were underwhelming and don't capture that Raw, Gritty, and Grimyness that "Tical" has.



If you talk about "Time Capsule Music" then "Tical" is one of the frontrunners for not just Hip Hop but all music in general.  Everything about that project is unique and the album sticks out like a slipped disk

Dude, the vase majority of hip-hop fans loved the album, but hardly any critic called it classic, it's not seen as groundbreaking like many of the Wu's previous projects, and compared to Enter the Wu Tang (36 Chambers) and Only Built For Cuban Links, it's a great album but not quite on that level. It's not like everyone is calling Tical garbage. And it wasn't a commercial album by any stretch of the imagination. The only commercial track was a track that had to be remixed. Each track was great, but we throw the title classic around too much. Sometimes things aren't classics that we think they are, and sometimes albums are classics to a newer generation that we don't agree with. But in my search of trying to find someone, anyone that calls Tical a classic, I can't. I can find lots of solid albums, lots of 4.5 stars. And I agree with that. Even in my youth, loved the Tical album the same way I loved 187um Killa by Eazy E, or Streetz Iz A Mutha by Kurupt. All of them great albums but none of them are what I'd call classics.
Title: Re: 15 Rappers Who Never Dropped A Classic Album Listed By HipHopWired
Post by: Free Suge Knight, Gucci Mane, & BShmurda Welcome Home Tray D on March 29, 2015, 06:16:31 PM
Who are these people that you polled and why are you trying to pass off your own personal opinion as fact or the general consensus for the masses over something that happened more than 20 years ago (literally).



I think you're feeling yourself a little too much Guy








And I said Meth was/is seen as the most Commercial, I never said "Tical" was a Pop record. 


But you knew that already, you're just playing stupid
Title: Re: 15 Rappers Who Never Dropped A Classic Album Listed By HipHopWired
Post by: M Dogg™ on March 29, 2015, 06:18:56 PM
Who are these people that you polled and why are you trying to pass off your own personal opinion as fact or the general consensus for the masses over something that happened more than 20 years ago (literally).



I think you're feeling yourself a little too much Guy








And I said Meth was/is seen as the most Commercial, I never said "Tical" was a Pop record. 


But you knew that already, you're just playing stupid

Okay?? I posted links to people asking if Tical was classic. Should I post articles? I think you are trying WAY too hard.
Title: Re: 15 Rappers Who Never Dropped A Classic Album Listed By HipHopWired
Post by: Free Suge Knight, Gucci Mane, & BShmurda Welcome Home Tray D on March 29, 2015, 06:20:10 PM
I'm not even gonna sit up here and debate whether "Tical" is a classic or not.  That's like insulting my intelligence
Title: Re: 15 Rappers Who Never Dropped A Classic Album Listed By HipHopWired
Post by: Free Suge Knight, Gucci Mane, & BShmurda Welcome Home Tray D on March 29, 2015, 06:20:59 PM
U smokin big rocks over there.
Title: Re: 15 Rappers Who Never Dropped A Classic Album Listed By HipHopWired
Post by: Free Suge Knight, Gucci Mane, & BShmurda Welcome Home Tray D on March 29, 2015, 06:23:58 PM
who Are you!
Title: Re: 15 Rappers Who Never Dropped A Classic Album Listed By HipHopWired
Post by: M Dogg™ on March 29, 2015, 06:30:31 PM
The GOAT of dubcc dogg.

I even had my own editorial on dubcnn.
Title: Re: 15 Rappers Who Never Dropped A Classic Album Listed By HipHopWired
Post by: Free Suge Knight, Gucci Mane, & BShmurda Welcome Home Tray D on March 29, 2015, 06:32:56 PM
Which is why it's in the shape it's in now.   





Lmao!  I'm mad you really tried to pull that card out tho.
Title: Re: 15 Rappers Who Never Dropped A Classic Album Listed By HipHopWired
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on March 29, 2015, 06:35:23 PM
Black Thought never dropped a classic solo album either



i think he figured he wasn't good enough to do anything solo
Title: Re: 15 Rappers Who Never Dropped A Classic Album Listed By HipHopWired
Post by: Free Suge Knight, Gucci Mane, & BShmurda Welcome Home Tray D on March 29, 2015, 06:44:09 PM
Black Thought never dropped a classic solo album either



i think he figured he wasn't good enough to do anything solo


He's the (technical) frontman for The Roots.  He already Solo as far as I'm concerned
Title: Re: 15 Rappers Who Never Dropped A Classic Album Listed By HipHopWired
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on March 29, 2015, 06:54:25 PM
but so many people contributed to those songs, that's why they are a group



Treach from Naughty By Nature never dropped a solo LP either. 
Title: Re: 15 Rappers Who Never Dropped A Classic Album Listed By HipHopWired
Post by: Free Suge Knight, Gucci Mane, & BShmurda Welcome Home Tray D on March 29, 2015, 08:40:11 PM
I'm hip.
Title: Re: 15 Rappers Who Never Dropped A Classic Album Listed By HipHopWired
Post by: M Dogg™ on March 30, 2015, 07:50:51 AM
No one questioned my inclusion of the Roots as a classic in my other thread.
Title: Re: 15 Rappers Who Never Dropped A Classic Album Listed By HipHopWired
Post by: Sccit on March 30, 2015, 10:38:35 AM
I'm hip.


ur the realest cat on here.....even if ur shield is up most the time, u know what time it is
Title: Re: 15 Rappers Who Never Dropped A Classic Album Listed By HipHopWired
Post by: Sccit on March 30, 2015, 10:40:39 AM
I loved 187um Killa by Eazy E, or Streetz Iz A Mutha by Kurupt. All of them great albums but none of them are what I'd call classics.


both classic
Title: Re: 15 Rappers Who Never Dropped A Classic Album Listed By HipHopWired
Post by: M Dogg™ on March 30, 2015, 11:24:25 AM
I loved 187um Killa by Eazy E, or Streetz Iz A Mutha by Kurupt. All of them great albums but none of them are what I'd call classics.


both classic

I think both are what I call street classics. When they were out, and you'd hear people driving around, you heard these albums all the time. Like, all the time.
Title: Re: 15 Rappers Who Never Dropped A Classic Album Listed By HipHopWired
Post by: Free Suge Knight, Gucci Mane, & BShmurda Welcome Home Tray D on March 30, 2015, 02:51:33 PM
I loved 187um Killa by Eazy E, or Streetz Iz A Mutha by Kurupt. All of them great albums but none of them are what I'd call classics.


both classic

I think both are what I call street classics. When they were out, and you'd hear people driving around, you heard these albums all the time. Like, all the time.


"Street Classics"?   Tha fuck is that?  So you're saying that an album isn't classic unless White People from The Burbs dig it too? 





Next........
Title: Re: 15 Rappers Who Never Dropped A Classic Album Listed By HipHopWired
Post by: Free Suge Knight, Gucci Mane, & BShmurda Welcome Home Tray D on March 30, 2015, 02:52:14 PM
I'm hip.


ur the realest cat on here.....even if ur shield is up most the time, u know what time it is



Lol.  Shield, u funny.  I died a long time ago
Title: Re: 15 Rappers Who Never Dropped A Classic Album Listed By HipHopWired
Post by: Hack Wilson - real on March 30, 2015, 02:56:47 PM
"Street Classics"?   Tha fuck is that?  So you're saying that an album isn't classic unless White People from The Burbs dig it too? 

:laugh:
Title: Re: 15 Rappers Who Never Dropped A Classic Album Listed By HipHopWired
Post by: Sccit on March 30, 2015, 03:12:47 PM
I loved 187um Killa by Eazy E, or Streetz Iz A Mutha by Kurupt. All of them great albums but none of them are what I'd call classics.


both classic

I think both are what I call street classics. When they were out, and you'd hear people driving around, you heard these albums all the time. Like, all the time.


"Street Classics"?   Tha fuck is that?  So you're saying that an album isn't classic unless White People from The Burbs dig it too? 





Next........


it's his way of saying he's wrong but not fully admitting to it due to ego reasonings. our boy mdogg is an on-the-fence typa cat.
Title: Re: 15 Rappers Who Never Dropped A Classic Album Listed By HipHopWired
Post by: M Dogg™ on March 30, 2015, 07:48:41 PM
I loved 187um Killa by Eazy E, or Streetz Iz A Mutha by Kurupt. All of them great albums but none of them are what I'd call classics.


both classic

I think both are what I call street classics. When they were out, and you'd hear people driving around, you heard these albums all the time. Like, all the time.


"Street Classics"?   Tha fuck is that?  So you're saying that an album isn't classic unless White People from The Burbs dig it too? 





Next........

No, more like rap critics. Like if rap critics like the former author of the Junkyard on DubCNN ain't feeling it, it ain't a rap classic. And even if they are feeling it, if that same author thinks it's just a damn good album, but not a classic, then it's not a classic, just a really really good album.
Title: Re: 15 Rappers Who Never Dropped A Classic Album Listed By HipHopWired
Post by: Free Suge Knight, Gucci Mane, & BShmurda Welcome Home Tray D on March 31, 2015, 08:30:39 AM
(http://mentalfloss.com/sites/default/files/toilet_flushing_5.jpg)
Title: Re: 15 Rappers Who Never Dropped A Classic Album Listed By HipHopWired
Post by: M Dogg™ on March 31, 2015, 08:34:54 AM
(http://mentalfloss.com/sites/default/files/toilet_flushing_5.jpg)

I see you finally admit your opinion is shit. Good to flush it down and let a real hip-hop head guide you. Don't worry, read my post and you'll be on your way.