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Lifestyle => Train of Thought => Topic started by: Don Rizzle on April 10, 2005, 02:58:15 AM

Title: The problem with democracy
Post by: Don Rizzle on April 10, 2005, 02:58:15 AM
Innefficient regimes which have no clear vision especially in the long term, they are also still corrupt. a single party state or dictatorship can provide much better value for money and won't suffer from short termishm caused by elections every few years.

Title: Re: The problem with democracy
Post by: 411 on April 10, 2005, 03:02:06 AM
Yes it is still corrupt. It is impossible to have a government that is not corrupt. Democracy works for the U.S. but it doesnt mean that it will works for others.
Title: Re: The problem with democracy
Post by: Diabolical on April 10, 2005, 10:21:16 AM
It doesnt really work for the US though does it.
Title: Re: The problem with democracy
Post by: Just Another Sunny day in California on April 10, 2005, 12:14:21 PM
It doesnt really work for the US though does it.

democracy does work, is it 100% effective? no but i think the U.S. is a prime example at democracy working at its finest and that's being the most powerful nation
Title: Re: The problem with democracy
Post by: mauzip on April 10, 2005, 12:18:09 PM
Innefficient regimes which have no clear vision especially in the long term, they are also still corrupt. a single party state or dictatorship can provide much better value for money and won't suffer from short termishm caused by elections every few years.



so you want to live in a dictatorship or a single party state? therefore you're very ignorant and that's that.
Title: Re: The problem with democracy
Post by: Don Rizzle on April 10, 2005, 01:33:44 PM
no i'm just discussing the drawbacks of democracy and the good points of undemocratic regimes, both are corrupt just one has more scutany and the other is way more effective when power is not being abused.
Title: Re: The problem with democracy
Post by: mauzip on April 10, 2005, 01:42:09 PM
Oh ok, my bad :cheers:

Democracy has its pros and cons. Pure democracy doesn't work, but it's always better than a dictatorship.
Title: Re: The problem with democracy
Post by: Trauma-san on April 10, 2005, 09:22:34 PM
It doesnt really work for the US though does it.

democracy does work, is it 100% effective? no but i think the U.S. is a prime example at democracy working at its finest
Title: Re: The problem with democracy
Post by: Woodrow on April 10, 2005, 11:18:56 PM
you're very ignorant and that's that.
Title: Re: The problem with democracy
Post by: M Dogg™ on April 10, 2005, 11:36:06 PM
Innefficient regimes which have no clear vision especially in the long term, they are also still corrupt. a single party state or dictatorship can provide much better value for money and won't suffer from short termishm caused by elections every few years.



???

I will say this, I'd rather live in a democracy than a dictatorship, a single party democracy or anything else you can imagion. Even though my side is down, I can at least express myself and question the government's directions.

The problem with Democracy is not whatever you mentioned, it's people blindly following the government because a democracy is meant for educated people to vote and to hear all the sides and then decide what they want. I am questioning a 2 party Democracy right now, because I think there are not enough sides heard and enough point of views express. But in the U.S. culture we like to justify all wins because it was over 50% or a majority. So our culture is about 2 parties, and that's cool. But I am not someone that thinks Democracy is failing, if anything I think we need more parties and more views with a higher educated population.
Title: Re: The problem with democracy
Post by: Don Rizzle on April 11, 2005, 10:39:01 AM
erope is alot more developed in that way because we have more parties in our governments however it can have its drawbacks depending on how you see it because they can often lead to coalition governments which could potential compromise key issues. In britain this is not the case we have 3 major parties but effectivly its on faught between labour and the conservatives for ruling power.

Think of the government if it were more like a business and the population is the board of directors the current system you vote the government in and out every 3 to 5 years regardless if they're doing a good job or not. I think governments would be run more effectively if you only vote people off when someone is fucking up or not doing the things you wanted them to do, this would make it easier to maintain relationships, perfect their field, reduce uncertanty and make a more effective stable cheaper government. Lets face it we need to slim down these days because we need to do all we can to try and compete with the east.
Title: Re: The problem with democracy
Post by: The_One on April 11, 2005, 11:40:59 AM
[KRS-One] Class in session. What, is, democracy?
[student] Yo it's the rule of the people. The self rule.
[student] It's what the people want!
[Krs] That's right. But is this a democracy?
Nah, democracy is a goal to be attained.
[Krs] That's right. The character of the people should be reflected
[Krs] in the laws and the institution of the state.
Psssh, I don't see my character reflected!
[Krs] Tell me

not that I dislike democracy... just like the quote
Title: Re: The problem with democracy
Post by: Diabolical on April 12, 2005, 11:26:55 AM
It doesnt really work for the US though does it.

democracy does work, is it 100% effective? no but i think the U.S. is a prime example at democracy working at its finest and that's being the most powerful nation

The only things it does is keep the poor people down and the rich even richer. If you think just because you are allowed to vote that it is working then you are seriously wrong. America has the highest ratings of everything it should not have for the money it makes.
Title: Re: The problem with democracy
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on April 12, 2005, 01:18:42 PM
terms like "democracy" cannot be thrown around and applied at will.

in some countries, the last fuckin thing they need is democracy. In some countries, thats the only thing that will keep them afloat.

Look at Pakistan for example. That country is better off without being a democracy,