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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Connection => Topic started by: abusive on July 08, 2022, 02:40:14 PM
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The Documentary: The Story Behind A Classic -
The Game has stirred up a bit of controversy in the media whether it’s him talking about Eminem, Dr. Dre, or other things. Now I don’t agree with some of the stuff he’s said especially what he said about Dr. Dre but seeing how people were talking about him made me want to rewind the clock back to 2005 when The Game released an absolute classic.
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I’m okay with calling it a near-classic it was a part of the G-Unit era which was the last great era in hiphop (even Nas said that) and then Lil Wayne grabbed the crown and it’s been skinny jeans ever since, but I digress
As for the G Unit era a lot of bangers came out of it but only the album that started it all Get Rich or Die Trying reaches the level of “classic”.
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I’m okay with calling it a near-classic it was a part of the G-Unit era which was the last great era in hiphop (even Nas said that) and then Lil Wayne grabbed the crown and it’s been skinny jeans ever since, but I digress
As for the G Unit era a lot of bangers came out of it but only the album that started it all Get Rich or Die Trying reaches the level of “classic”.
In your opinion, what makes it a near-classic and not a classic?
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Hoax.
Its aint classic. Neva was, neva will.
A commercial neva gonna be a classic.
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Hoax.
Its aint classic. Neva was, neva will.
A commercial neva gonna be a classic.
Say what now? Please explain.
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In my opinion its a shade below a classic, to me a classic album has somewhat of a crossover appeal to other genres. Like a casual hip hop listener knows what illmatic and chronic etc is, i guarantee most music listeners have never heard of the documentary. Granted i wouldn't be mad if someone said its a hip hop classic, but straight up classic in the same vain as pink flyod dark side of the moon, marvin gaye whats going on, no it definitely isn't
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Say what now? Please explain.
its a full time hype for g unit and nwa, dr dre.
almost every track he just repeat their name, and legacy.
Game is an aight rapper with good songs, and good albums, but this is his full time stan mode only.
His 2nd album.
Thast a strong one, thats a good album.
but this?
nah.
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A commercial neva gonna be a classic.
Are you sayin' a commercially successful album can't be a classic? Never??
its a full time hype for g unit and nwa, dr dre.
almost every track he just repeat their name, and legacy.
Game is an aight rapper with good songs, and good albums, but this is his full time stan mode only.
His 2nd album.
Thast a strong one, thats a good album.
but this?
nah.
When is the last time you listened to this? I think you should give it another chance.
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Album is full of skippers. So it is not a classic.
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Are you sayin' a commercially successful album can't be a classic? Never??
No. I said this album is only a big Stan letter. A commercial. Nutin more.
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Album is full of skippers. So it is not a classic.
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And the rest is written by 50cent...
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+1
And the rest is written by 50cent...
You haven't backed up your position with any valid arguments and this response tells me you're everything I need to know you can't view things objectively.
In my opinion its a shade below a classic, to me a classic album has somewhat of a crossover appeal to other genres. Like a casual hip hop listener knows what illmatic and chronic etc is, i guarantee most music listeners have never heard of the documentary. Granted i wouldn't be mad if someone said its a hip hop classic, but straight up classic in the same vain as pink flyod dark side of the moon, marvin gaye whats going on, no it definitely isn't
I somewhat agree with this. I don't think the casual listener would know what Illmatic is but that doesn't mean it's not a classic.
The Documentary is definitely a hip hop classic from the perspective that it brought the spotlight back on the west coast and helped usher in a new wave of west coast artists. I view 50's debut in a similar manner.
It really just depends on what the "rules" are for being a classic. Its' impact commercially? Impact to hip hop? Test of time?
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Its not classic just for the spotlight. Dont want sound harsh, but album is boring flow vise. Lyrics name drops, gang bang, with no subject, and some beats are super trash ( all just blaze beats, higher, start from sratch, runing, eminem track). Couple bangrs, but overall very boring album.
Best g unit album after grodt is young bucks straight outta cashwille. Apsolute classic.
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It's a classic. You guys really hate Game ha? I've been noticed that but sheesh. 🙄
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You haven't backed up your position with any valid arguments and this response tells me you're everything I need to know you can't view things objectively.
I can live with that.
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It's a classic. You guys really hate Game ha? I've been noticed that but sheesh. 🙄
I aint hate him. Imo got more bootleg and mixtape cd from him than most of the forum members entire collection, amd still collect them.
I think he is a real good mixtape rapper who saved/brought back the west and dominated 2000-2010.
BUT he aint got a classic album.
But i aint like to use the term classic like u forum guys usin almost every album and artist.
For example i cant call any album classic before its 10 years old at least. Bunch of u callin albums classic from this year or last year.
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"The Documentary" is a classic to me. Still sounds fresh as the day it came out.
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And the rest is written by 50cent...
No, it's not.
:snoop:
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What happened to BWS Label?
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What happened to BWS Label?
I know there were issues with the name because JT said he owned it. Game also had the short lived "Rolex Records". If I remember correctly he announced another label after that.
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What happened to BWS Label?
It doesn't exist anymore. The 50 split, JT issue, then the split with this brother killed all that momentum.
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"The Documentary" is a classic to me. Still sounds fresh as the day it came out.
No, it's not.
:snoop:
He has no classic as a 5/5 album to me.
He has some of the best mixtape and album songs of all time.
But music will always be hard to agree on, so many factors will bias my views - Had you asked me this album was a classic 10years ago, then the answer would had been yes.
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I know there were issues with the name because JT said he owned it. Game also had the short lived "Rolex Records". If I remember correctly he announced another label after that.
I just remembered. Blood Money. I think it was through Cash Money.
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Def not a classic for me but very significant album for west coast. I've always liked Doctor's Advocate more.
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I think it has great production. You can tell Interscope put their whole weight behind it with a who's-who of big name producers (Dr. Dre, Timbaland, Havoc, Just Blaze, Hi Tek, Kanye West...I mean, that's a crazy production lineup) and guest artists (50 Cent, Snoop, Eminem, Busta Rhymes, Mary J. Blige) to give Game that "stamp of approval" that would ostensibly yield commercial viability.
But Game's vocals are horrific, imo. He got better in subsequent albums. But here, it's all stereotypical, generic gangbanging on wax and namedrops. There's no substance whatsoever. And unlike many westcoast artists who traffic in stereotypical gangbang subject matter, there's something about Game that seems inauthentic, like a poseur. It's hard to put my finger on it, but basically he lacks emotional vulnerability, so all the songs remain on the surface, never really penetrating beyond skin-deep.
Again, I think he got better on subsequent albums, but his overall musical support got worse, so he never really had a great album, imo, where it all coalesced.