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Lifestyle => Sports & Entertainment => Topic started by: Elano on November 16, 2008, 05:22:03 AM
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Michael Vick lives in a prison in Kansas, making 12 cents an hour while plotting his return to the NFL. His houses and farms will soon be gone, the two yachts are history, and he’s down to his last couple of Range Rovers.
A race horse he bought for $60,000 died of colic, the Atlanta Falcons are still trying to hit him up for millions they paid him, and the IRS and the state of Georgia want nearly $1 million in back taxes.
In 2006 he made nearly $15 million. Recently he reported total income of $12.89 for an entire month.
That’s $12.89 as in 12 dollars and 89 cents. This from someone who, before things went terribly bad, categorized a $1,000 check to his mother as “chump change.”
The numbers are cold, but they have to warm the heart of any animal lover sickened by what once went on at Vick’s Bad Newz Kennels. To many, seeing Vick stripped of the material things he and his fellow millionaire athletes like to enjoy is almost as good as watching him go to prison in the first place.
Best of all, the dogs who survived the terror of Vick’s dogfighting ring are having the last laugh.
They’re the stars of a recent National Geographic Channel television special. They live in comfort in a Utah ranch, thanks to $928,000 Vick agreed to contribute to finance their care.
And now they have their own wine.
Yes, there’s Meryl, looking anything but ferocious on a bottle of Syrah. And there’s Lewis, peeking out from the front of another Vicktory Dog bottle.
Maybe Vick can pick up a $40 bottle when he gets out of prison next July, assuming things go as planned. If he’s careful about not spending his prison earnings in the commissary, he could be paroled with enough to buy a couple of them.
He shouldn’t drink too much, though. Because he’s still got some football to play.
Buried in the hundreds of pages of paper detailing Vick’s financial woes the other day in federal bankruptcy court was the declaration that not only does Vick expect to be reinstated in the NFL upon his release but also believes he will “be able to earn a substantial living” playing quarterback once again.
Good luck with that.
Just what team he believes will employ him to do so wasn’t mentioned, but the Falcons are surely out. They severed their ties with the quarterback they once were sure would lead them to a Super Bowl and are now being led by a quarterback who has been so good in his rookie season that he just might.
Vick is supposed to be released July 20, so he could be out just in time for the opening of preseason camps. But how many teams are so desperate for a quarterback that they would risk the ire of PETA-types and other animal activists to sign an ex-con who admitted to doing some heinous things?
The other question is how much would they risk for a quarterback who has a career passing rating of 75.7, fumbles the ball once every 10 times he carries it, and hasn’t played a down in two years. Quarterbacks who could run were once the rage in the NFL, but most teams today look for the traditional pocket passer.
If a team did take a chance on Vick, it would likely be for little or no guaranteed money with incentives kicking in only if he produces—something that can never be certain in the NFL, where injuries and age can quickly take their toll. Even then, Vick won’t keep all his salary because under his bankruptcy plan he must pay part of any future earnings to creditors.
Indeed, Vick’s financial mess is as much a cautionary tale to his fellow athletes as his criminal woes are.
He has assets of $16 million but owes creditors $20.3 million. His attorneys had to hire forensic accountants to find out where the money went, $18 million of it over the last two years alone as Vick bounced from one business deal to another and seemed to hire financial advisers he met standing in line at the supermarket.
Flush with bonus money from the Falcons, Vick bought houses by the handful, invested in a rental car franchise in Atlanta and poured money into a liquor store and restaurant. He hired friends, gave away money and cars, and could never say no to his mother, who got $700 for an Easter Egg hunt one year and $317,000 for a new church building the next.
Now he sits in a prison in Kansas after a staggering and quick fall from the top. Once a favorite of fans who couldn’t buy enough of his No. 7 jerseys he’s now vilified and hated by millions who will never forgive the despicable things he and his buddies did to their dogs.
A comeback is still possible, but my guess is that this story will not end well. Upon his release from prison, the odds are Vick will spend more time dodging creditors than defensive linemen.
The dogs are a different story. Those that survived will live in comfort the rest of their lives.
And for that, we should all raise a glass of Lewis red in celebration.
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Al Davis will give him money
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god dam....all over some dog fights? shiiiiit.
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Al Davis will give him money
hahahhahaha so so true and then Mvick will be a flop and bought out.
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Remember that Ice Cube song "Doin Dumb Shit"?
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god dam....all over some dog fights? shiiiiit.
For real.
I don't condone what he did, its bad, but for real, all that for some dog fights?!?
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this is so fucked up. its because they didnt like how he was the biggest thing in the NFL. highest selling jersey & what not, who didnt love to watch the guy? they didnt want a thug to be face of the NFL.
believe me, if Tony Brady or Peyton Manning got caught dog fighting, they would make it an olympic sport. :P
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god dam....all over some dog fights? shiiiiit.
For real.
I don't condone what he did, its bad, but for real, all that for some dog fights?!?
Why not? I like to think of it as Overpaid Pro Athlete Stupidity Tax. Football players especailly seem to be lining up to pay it with Vick and Pacman being the leading contributors. Serves them right for thinking they are untouchable.
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this is so fucked up. its because they didnt like how he was the biggest thing in the NFL. highest selling jersey & what not, who didnt love to watch the guy? they didnt want a thug to be face of the NFL.
believe me, if Tony Brady or Peyton Manning got caught dog fighting, they would make it an olympic sport. :P
Neither Tom Brady or Peyton Manning would be stupid enough to do something like that. They have enough intelligence to realize they have enough money and they don't want to lose it.
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this is so fucked up. its because they didnt like how he was the biggest thing in the NFL. highest selling jersey & what not, who didnt love to watch the guy? they didnt want a thug to be face of the NFL.
believe me, if Tony Brady or Peyton Manning got caught dog fighting, they would make it an olympic sport. :P
Neither Tom Brady or Peyton Manning would be stupid enough to do something like that. They have enough intelligence to realize they have enough money and they don't want to lose it.
of course not, but i mean they without a doubt woulda gave them a much easier time than they have for Vick.
they want the fans to forget he existed, Brady woulda had to pay a fine lol.
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Vick will get his paper back up when the Raiders sign him when he gets released.
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this is so fucked up. its because they didnt like how he was the biggest thing in the NFL. highest selling jersey & what not, who didnt love to watch the guy? they didnt want a thug to be face of the NFL.
believe me, if Tony Brady or Peyton Manning got caught dog fighting, they would make it an olympic sport. :P
Word, Vick fucked up but there's much more important things to be paying attention to than dog fighting
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this is so fucked up. its because they didnt like how he was the biggest thing in the NFL. highest selling jersey & what not, who didnt love to watch the guy? they didnt want a thug to be face of the NFL.
believe me, if Tony Brady or Peyton Manning got caught dog fighting, they would make it an olympic sport. :P
Word, Vick fucked up but there's much more important things to be paying attention to than dog fighting
word, like thats all in his private life & shit too, no?
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this is so fucked up. its because they didnt like how he was the biggest thing in the NFL. highest selling jersey & what not, who didnt love to watch the guy? they didnt want a thug to be face of the NFL.
believe me, if Tony Brady or Peyton Manning got caught dog fighting, they would make it an olympic sport. :P
Neither Tom Brady or Peyton Manning would be stupid enough to do something like that. They have enough intelligence to realize they have enough money and they don't want to lose it.
of course not, but i mean they without a doubt woulda gave them a much easier time than they have for Vick.
they want the fans to forget he existed, Brady woulda had to pay a fine lol.
You can't compare two situations when one of them has absolutely no chance in happening. Vick is just a moron, and no one wants to be associated with a moron because it's very likely moronic shit will happen again, even if he has amazing athletic ability.
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this is so fucked up. its because they didnt like how he was the biggest thing in the NFL. highest selling jersey & what not, who didnt love to watch the guy? they didnt want a thug to be face of the NFL.
believe me, if Tony Brady or Peyton Manning got caught dog fighting, they would make it an olympic sport. :P
Word, Vick fucked up but there's much more important things to be paying attention to than dog fighting
word, like thats all in his private life & shit too, no?
Yeah, Vick is an idiot and should have been suspended from the NFL but all this publicity and sending his ass to jail was overboard imo. I love dogs but I don't see how we can make such a huge deal out of this shit when there's far worse shit going on in the world unpunished...
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this is so fucked up. its because they didnt like how he was the biggest thing in the NFL. highest selling jersey & what not, who didnt love to watch the guy? they didnt want a thug to be face of the NFL.
believe me, if Tony Brady or Peyton Manning got caught dog fighting, they would make it an olympic sport. :P
Word, Vick fucked up but there's much more important things to be paying attention to than dog fighting
word, like thats all in his private life & shit too, no?
Yeah, Vick is an idiot and should have been suspended from the NFL but all this publicity and sending his ass to jail was overboard imo. I love dogs but I don't see how we can make such a huge deal out of this shit when there's far worse shit going on in the world unpunished...
lol, one day im going to go to a dog show with a Vick jersey on. ;D
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this is so fucked up. its because they didnt like how he was the biggest thing in the NFL. highest selling jersey & what not, who didnt love to watch the guy? they didnt want a thug to be face of the NFL.
believe me, if Tony Brady or Peyton Manning got caught dog fighting, they would make it an olympic sport. :P
Word, Vick fucked up but there's much more important things to be paying attention to than dog fighting
word, like thats all in his private life & shit too, no?
Yeah, Vick is an idiot and should have been suspended from the NFL but all this publicity and sending his ass to jail was overboard imo. I love dogs but I don't see how we can make such a huge deal out of this shit when there's far worse shit going on in the world unpunished...
It's like a public execution and everyone wants to watch, so the media televises it in high def. It makes for good contrast when paired with The Girls Next Door, My Super Sweet 16, or Flavor of Love.
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on some real shit. this would have never happened if Mike Vick was white. eye see no reason to crucify a nigga like this just because of some dogs??? ( you can say yea it was fucked up or whatever but damn all this??) white people go deer and bear hunting and whatever the fuck else you people hunt in the woods and hang that shit up on the wall of your houses as trophies. but yet aint no body saying shit to them crackers.
shit when eye think about it.......... them crackers cared more about the dogs and cats after hurricane katrina then Blacks. all you saw were commercials for them........ shits depressing when eye think about my nigga Vick. eye hope he get back on his feet and overcome all the bullshit. eye hope he reading books in their too strengthen his mind along with his body. come to the giants my nigga!
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this is so fucked up. its because they didnt like how he was the biggest thing in the NFL. highest selling jersey & what not, who didnt love to watch the guy? they didnt want a thug to be face of the NFL.
believe me, if Tony Brady or Peyton Manning got caught dog fighting, they would make it an olympic sport. :P
Word, Vick fucked up but there's much more important things to be paying attention to than dog fighting
word, like thats all in his private life & shit too, no?
Yeah, Vick is an idiot and should have been suspended from the NFL but all this publicity and sending his ass to jail was overboard imo. I love dogs but I don't see how we can make such a huge deal out of this shit when there's far worse shit going on in the world unpunished...
lol, one day im going to go to a dog show with a Vick jersey on. ;D
If you serious,get that videotaped & shown on youtube :D . But the Raiders, Dallas, & the Nati will most definitely sign him. Vick is stupid 4 that. I don't give 2 shits if he's black. And fuck those who will call me & Jason Whitlock a sellout for what i'm saying. He needed 2 get punished. But what I really hated is the protestors who got on him. I feel that he got more hatred from them than Timothy McVeigh for blowing up a building. And he killed 168 innocent people, maybe even kids & babies. I'd probably be more hard on him if it was cats or small adorable dogs[chiahuhas, weiner dogs] that was getting jacked like that.
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real overboard, over pitbull fights. if it was any other pet i doubt it would be that harsh (which is pretty fucking stupid), white americans love their dogs like its part of their family.
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real overboard, over pitbull fights. if it was any other pet i doubt it would be that harsh (which is pretty fucking stupid), white americans love their dogs like its part of their family.
eye agree with you on that, whites love their dogs. but eye disagree with you about the type of dog. eye think if it was a different dog like one of them dogs white people be bringing into the malls with them, the ones that got their own dresser full of clothes and gear. like them small dogs. they would have gave that nigga Vick the electric chair or lethal injection.
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This nigga is dumber than T.I.
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this is so fucked up. its because they didnt like how he was the biggest thing in the NFL. highest selling jersey & what not, who didnt love to watch the guy? they didnt want a thug to be face of the NFL.
believe me, if Tony Brady or Peyton Manning got caught dog fighting, they would make it an olympic sport. :P
Word, Vick fucked up but there's much more important things to be paying attention to than dog fighting
word, like thats all in his private life & shit too, no?
So as long as anything is done in private, its okay? I'm pretty sure most drug addicts do their drug of choice in private. I guess if someone kills their spouse, its okay if they do it in the privacy of their own home? Child abuse is alright, as long as no one sees it happen. You could say that about most crimes.
Vick is fucked up, and deserved all of what he got. Its just a shame that he wasn't tortured the way he did those dogs, he doesn't deserve life, much less a comfortable one.
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this is so fucked up. its because they didnt like how he was the biggest thing in the NFL. highest selling jersey & what not, who didnt love to watch the guy? they didnt want a thug to be face of the NFL.
believe me, if Tony Brady or Peyton Manning got caught dog fighting, they would make it an olympic sport. :P
Word, Vick fucked up but there's much more important things to be paying attention to than dog fighting
word, like thats all in his private life & shit too, no?
So as long as anything is done in private, its okay? I'm pretty sure most drug addicts do their drug of choice in private. I guess if someone kills their spouse, its okay if they do it in the privacy of their own home? Child abuse is alright, as long as no one sees it happen. You could say that about most crimes.
Vick is fucked up, and deserved all of what he got. Its just a shame that he wasn't tortured the way he did those dogs, he doesn't deserve life, much less a comfortable one.
i woldnt say someone doesnt deserve life cause they are involved in dog fights.
thats just retarded, man.
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this is so fucked up. its because they didnt like how he was the biggest thing in the NFL. highest selling jersey & what not, who didnt love to watch the guy? they didnt want a thug to be face of the NFL.
believe me, if Tony Brady or Peyton Manning got caught dog fighting, they would make it an olympic sport. :P
Word, Vick fucked up but there's much more important things to be paying attention to than dog fighting
word, like thats all in his private life & shit too, no?
So as long as anything is done in private, its okay? I'm pretty sure most drug addicts do their drug of choice in private. I guess if someone kills their spouse, its okay if they do it in the privacy of their own home? Child abuse is alright, as long as no one sees it happen. You could say that about most crimes.
Vick is fucked up, and deserved all of what he got. Its just a shame that he wasn't tortured the way he did those dogs, he doesn't deserve life, much less a comfortable one.
i woldnt say someone doesnt deserve life cause they are involved in dog fights.
thats just retarded, man.
Does Vick deserve life more than the dogs he killed/tortured? Hell, dogs contribute more to society in police work than Vick ever has. Fuck Michael Vick, I hope someone throws him in a pool and electrocutes his stupid ass.
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this is so fucked up. its because they didnt like how he was the biggest thing in the NFL. highest selling jersey & what not, who didnt love to watch the guy? they didnt want a thug to be face of the NFL.
believe me, if Tony Brady or Peyton Manning got caught dog fighting, they would make it an olympic sport. :P
Word, Vick fucked up but there's much more important things to be paying attention to than dog fighting
word, like thats all in his private life & shit too, no?
So as long as anything is done in private, its okay? I'm pretty sure most drug addicts do their drug of choice in private. I guess if someone kills their spouse, its okay if they do it in the privacy of their own home? Child abuse is alright, as long as no one sees it happen. You could say that about most crimes.
Vick is fucked up, and deserved all of what he got. Its just a shame that he wasn't tortured the way he did those dogs, he doesn't deserve life, much less a comfortable one.
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this is so fucked up. its because they didnt like how he was the biggest thing in the NFL. highest selling jersey & what not, who didnt love to watch the guy? they didnt want a thug to be face of the NFL.
believe me, if Tony Brady or Peyton Manning got caught dog fighting, they would make it an olympic sport. :P
Word, Vick fucked up but there's much more important things to be paying attention to than dog fighting
word, like thats all in his private life & shit too, no?
So as long as anything is done in private, its okay? I'm pretty sure most drug addicts do their drug of choice in private. I guess if someone kills their spouse, its okay if they do it in the privacy of their own home? Child abuse is alright, as long as no one sees it happen. You could say that about most crimes.
Vick is fucked up, and deserved all of what he got. Its just a shame that he wasn't tortured the way he did those dogs, he doesn't deserve life, much less a comfortable one.
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i dont know call me insensitive, but it doesnt phase me unless its a human being.
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this is so fucked up. its because they didnt like how he was the biggest thing in the NFL. highest selling jersey & what not, who didnt love to watch the guy? they didnt want a thug to be face of the NFL.
believe me, if Tony Brady or Peyton Manning got caught dog fighting, they would make it an olympic sport. :P
Word, Vick fucked up but there's much more important things to be paying attention to than dog fighting
word, like thats all in his private life & shit too, no?
So as long as anything is done in private, its okay? I'm pretty sure most drug addicts do their drug of choice in private. I guess if someone kills their spouse, its okay if they do it in the privacy of their own home? Child abuse is alright, as long as no one sees it happen. You could say that about most crimes.
Vick is fucked up, and deserved all of what he got. Its just a shame that he wasn't tortured the way he did those dogs, he doesn't deserve life, much less a comfortable one.
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why did we draw the line at dogs & cats? we can kill anything else, but not them. not even like were killing me, just makin them into fighters. they make people into fights, but those involved dont get locked up...
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this is so fucked up. its because they didnt like how he was the biggest thing in the NFL. highest selling jersey & what not, who didnt love to watch the guy? they didnt want a thug to be face of the NFL.
believe me, if Tony Brady or Peyton Manning got caught dog fighting, they would make it an olympic sport. :P
Word, Vick fucked up but there's much more important things to be paying attention to than dog fighting
word, like thats all in his private life & shit too, no?
So as long as anything is done in private, its okay? I'm pretty sure most drug addicts do their drug of choice in private. I guess if someone kills their spouse, its okay if they do it in the privacy of their own home? Child abuse is alright, as long as no one sees it happen. You could say that about most crimes.
Vick is fucked up, and deserved all of what he got. Its just a shame that he wasn't tortured the way he did those dogs, he doesn't deserve life, much less a comfortable one.
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why did we draw the line at dogs & cats? we can kill anything else, but not them. not even like were killing me, just makin them into fighters. they make people into fights, but those involved dont get locked up...
Are you really this retarded? Humans have a choice and they don't fight til the death...they also don't get their brains bashed in when they lose. :grumpy:
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this is so fucked up. its because they didnt like how he was the biggest thing in the NFL. highest selling jersey & what not, who didnt love to watch the guy? they didnt want a thug to be face of the NFL.
believe me, if Tony Brady or Peyton Manning got caught dog fighting, they would make it an olympic sport. :P
Word, Vick fucked up but there's much more important things to be paying attention to than dog fighting
word, like thats all in his private life & shit too, no?
So as long as anything is done in private, its okay? I'm pretty sure most drug addicts do their drug of choice in private. I guess if someone kills their spouse, its okay if they do it in the privacy of their own home? Child abuse is alright, as long as no one sees it happen. You could say that about most crimes.
Vick is fucked up, and deserved all of what he got. Its just a shame that he wasn't tortured the way he did those dogs, he doesn't deserve life, much less a comfortable one.
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why did we draw the line at dogs & cats? we can kill anything else, but not them. not even like were killing me, just makin them into fighters. they make people into fights, but those involved dont get locked up...
i'm againt brutality towards all the animals,not only dogs & cats ;)
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this is so fucked up. its because they didnt like how he was the biggest thing in the NFL. highest selling jersey & what not, who didnt love to watch the guy? they didnt want a thug to be face of the NFL.
believe me, if Tony Brady or Peyton Manning got caught dog fighting, they would make it an olympic sport. :P
Word, Vick fucked up but there's much more important things to be paying attention to than dog fighting
word, like thats all in his private life & shit too, no?
So as long as anything is done in private, its okay? I'm pretty sure most drug addicts do their drug of choice in private. I guess if someone kills their spouse, its okay if they do it in the privacy of their own home? Child abuse is alright, as long as no one sees it happen. You could say that about most crimes.
Vick is fucked up, and deserved all of what he got. Its just a shame that he wasn't tortured the way he did those dogs, he doesn't deserve life, much less a comfortable one.
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why did we draw the line at dogs & cats? we can kill anything else, but not them. not even like were killing me, just makin them into fighters. they make people into fights, but those involved dont get locked up...
Are you really this retarded? Humans have a choice and they don't fight til the death...they also don't get their brains bashed in when they lose. :grumpy:
again you and your lack of poor judgement of kidding around... ::)
the whole point of this is...Vick got convicted because the NFL did not want him to be the face of the sport, period.
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he will 100% play in the nfl again.
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he will 100% play in the nfl again.
no doubt he, i wonder what team would want him though.
hope he isnt a Barry Bonds story. :P
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he will 100% play in the nfl again.
no doubt he, i wonder what team would want him though.
hope he isnt a Barry Bonds story. :P
a team will take him..an NFL GM a while ago (wanted to remain anonymous) said NFL GM's would sign an axe murderer if he had talent..a team with a bad qb situation when he's released from prison will sign em..plenty of em..lions instantly come to mind lol..
bengals (if palmer cant bounce back)
texans (^same as schaub - always hurt)
vikings
bucs
cards (may be fucked when warner leaves if leinart doesn't pan out)
49ers
rams
lions are where my $ goes..
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^id say a poor attendance team, with no QB. i dont follow up on weekly fan attendance, but Vick will fill up seats in a second.
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^id say a poor attendance team, with no QB. i dont follow up on weekly fan attendance, but Vick will fill up seats in a second.
and u just summed up the Lions! lol..
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^id say a poor attendance team, with no QB. i dont follow up on weekly fan attendance, but Vick will fill up seats in a second.
and u just summed up the Lions! lol..
Vick is going to be a Lion then lol.
i cant wait til he gets back on the field, hes makes games so much better with his exiting plays & all.
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^id say a poor attendance team, with no QB. i dont follow up on weekly fan attendance, but Vick will fill up seats in a second.
and u just summed up the Lions! lol..
Vick is going to be a Lion then lol.
i cant wait til he gets back on the field, hes makes games so much better with his exiting plays & all.
ya, i can't wait either..exciting player to watch..he'll be back and i'm excited to see it..he is scheduled to be released soon, nah?
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^na, hes gotta do his time & then i think the NFL has a year suspension on him too. its gunna be a while. :-\
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^na, hes gotta do his time & then i think the NFL has a year suspension on him too. its gunna be a while. :-\
didnt know 'bout the suspension..ain't his time almost done? he got 2 yrs but i think was gonna get out in 1..
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^na, hes gotta do his time & then i think the NFL has a year suspension on him too. its gunna be a while. :-\
didnt know 'bout the suspension..ain't his time almost done? he got 2 yrs but i think was gonna get out in 1..
word? not sure about his jail time status, but im almost postive the NFL is suspending him for a year.
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Vick got convicted because the NFL did not want him to be the face of the sport, period.
LOL
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^na, hes gotta do his time & then i think the NFL has a year suspension on him too. its gunna be a while. :-\
didnt know 'bout the suspension..ain't his time almost done? he got 2 yrs but i think was gonna get out in 1..
word? not sure about his jail time status, but im almost postive the NFL is suspending him for a year.
well if it is a year, he gotta be almost done..
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Vick got convicted because the NFL did not want him to be the face of the sport, period.
LOL
please! you think the high people in NFL would rather see Vick, getting accused of drug possession & other problems of the law on all the NFL commercials, opposed to, good old boy Bret Farve, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, etc.? its a no-brainer, who they would rather.
i mean, i can understand why you wouldnt agree with that statement, its bold & all...but thats what i feel. i mean, not that he shouldnt have payed the price, but not the extend he has been.
also, his style of play, although amazing for the fan to watch, doesn't produce a winner. he is emulated by all young players wanting to QB. how many guys do you see in college, these "running & gunning" Vick-type players? more & more. Tim Tebow was like that, but Florida made him more of a passer this season. teams wont win with a half quarterback, half running back who thinks run first then pass. teams who win have that "stay in the pocket" QB.
thats just my take on the situation...
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^na, hes gotta do his time & then i think the NFL has a year suspension on him too. its gunna be a while. :-\
didnt know 'bout the suspension..ain't his time almost done? he got 2 yrs but i think was gonna get out in 1..
word? not sure about his jail time status, but im almost postive the NFL is suspending him for a year.
well if it is a year, he gotta be almost done..
well then he'll be out for this season (duhh lol). then i guess if thats his jail time, then he misses next season cuz of the year suspension...so he should return the year after that.
so the '10-'11 season, we might see vick back out there.
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Vick got convicted because the NFL did not want him to be the face of the sport, period.
LOL
please! you think the high people in NFL would rather see Vick, getting accused of drug possession & other problems of the law on all the NFL commercials, opposed to, good old boy Bret Farve, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, etc.? its a no-brainer, who they would rather.
i mean, i can understand why you wouldnt agree with that statement, its bold & all...but thats what i feel. i mean, not that he shouldnt have payed the price, but not the extend he has been.
also, his style of play, although amazing for the fan to watch, doesn't produce a winner. he is emulated by all young players wanting to QB. how many guys do you see in college, these "running & gunning" Vick-type players? more & more. Tim Tebow was like that, but Florida made him more of a passer this season. teams wont win with a half quarterback, half running back who thinks run first then pass. teams who win have that "stay in the pocket" QB.
thats just my take on the situation...
As exciting as Vick can be he would've of never put it all together to be the face of the NFL.
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Vick got convicted because the NFL did not want him to be the face of the sport, period.
LOL
please! you think the high people in NFL would rather see Vick, getting accused of drug possession & other problems of the law on all the NFL commercials, opposed to, good old boy Bret Farve, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, etc.? its a no-brainer, who they would rather.
i mean, i can understand why you wouldnt agree with that statement, its bold & all...but thats what i feel. i mean, not that he shouldnt have payed the price, but not the extend he has been.
also, his style of play, although amazing for the fan to watch, doesn't produce a winner. he is emulated by all young players wanting to QB. how many guys do you see in college, these "running & gunning" Vick-type players? more & more. Tim Tebow was like that, but Florida made him more of a passer this season. teams wont win with a half quarterback, half running back who thinks run first then pass. teams who win have that "stay in the pocket" QB.
thats just my take on the situation...
To be the face of the league as a QB, you, I don't know, may need to be able to complete a pass here and there.
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Vick got convicted because the NFL did not want him to be the face of the sport, period.
LOL
please! you think the high people in NFL would rather see Vick, getting accused of drug possession & other problems of the law on all the NFL commercials, opposed to, good old boy Bret Farve, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, etc.? its a no-brainer, who they would rather.
i mean, i can understand why you wouldnt agree with that statement, its bold & all...but thats what i feel. i mean, not that he shouldnt have payed the price, but not the extend he has been.
also, his style of play, although amazing for the fan to watch, doesn't produce a winner. he is emulated by all young players wanting to QB. how many guys do you see in college, these "running & gunning" Vick-type players? more & more. Tim Tebow was like that, but Florida made him more of a passer this season. teams wont win with a half quarterback, half running back who thinks run first then pass. teams who win have that "stay in the pocket" QB.
thats just my take on the situation...
the league doesn't decide what happens to him lawfully, man...LOL
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You'd think the jail term was enough, what about his family?
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You'd think the jail term was enough, what about his family?
What about them? His family isn't being vilified. Heavy media coverage is different than placing blame. Eventually all of those reporters will go away like nothing ever happened so they can cover the next hot button issue for America to obsess over like it is pertinant to their own lives.
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Vick got convicted because the NFL did not want him to be the face of the sport, period.
LOL
please! you think the high people in NFL would rather see Vick, getting accused of drug possession & other problems of the law on all the NFL commercials, opposed to, good old boy Bret Farve, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, etc.? its a no-brainer, who they would rather.
i mean, i can understand why you wouldnt agree with that statement, its bold & all...but thats what i feel. i mean, not that he shouldnt have payed the price, but not the extend he has been.
also, his style of play, although amazing for the fan to watch, doesn't produce a winner. he is emulated by all young players wanting to QB. how many guys do you see in college, these "running & gunning" Vick-type players? more & more. Tim Tebow was like that, but Florida made him more of a passer this season. teams wont win with a half quarterback, half running back who thinks run first then pass. teams who win have that "stay in the pocket" QB.
thats just my take on the situation...
To be the face of the league as a QB, you, I don't know, may need to be able to complete a pass here and there.
or just appeal to every fan...
Vick had the highest selling jersey, you dont think the people loved him?
shit, i even had a Vick jersey lol.
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Vick got convicted because the NFL did not want him to be the face of the sport, period.
LOL
please! you think the high people in NFL would rather see Vick, getting accused of drug possession & other problems of the law on all the NFL commercials, opposed to, good old boy Bret Farve, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, etc.? its a no-brainer, who they would rather.
i mean, i can understand why you wouldnt agree with that statement, its bold & all...but thats what i feel. i mean, not that he shouldnt have payed the price, but not the extend he has been.
also, his style of play, although amazing for the fan to watch, doesn't produce a winner. he is emulated by all young players wanting to QB. how many guys do you see in college, these "running & gunning" Vick-type players? more & more. Tim Tebow was like that, but Florida made him more of a passer this season. teams wont win with a half quarterback, half running back who thinks run first then pass. teams who win have that "stay in the pocket" QB.
thats just my take on the situation...
the league doesn't decide what happens to him lawfully, man...LOL
of course not, but does the Feds control weather he gets suspended from the league for a year? ::)
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Vick got convicted because the NFL did not want him to be the face of the sport, period.
LOL
please! you think the high people in NFL would rather see Vick, getting accused of drug possession & other problems of the law on all the NFL commercials, opposed to, good old boy Bret Farve, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, etc.? its a no-brainer, who they would rather.
i mean, i can understand why you wouldnt agree with that statement, its bold & all...but thats what i feel. i mean, not that he shouldnt have payed the price, but not the extend he has been.
also, his style of play, although amazing for the fan to watch, doesn't produce a winner. he is emulated by all young players wanting to QB. how many guys do you see in college, these "running & gunning" Vick-type players? more & more. Tim Tebow was like that, but Florida made him more of a passer this season. teams wont win with a half quarterback, half running back who thinks run first then pass. teams who win have that "stay in the pocket" QB.
thats just my take on the situation...
the league doesn't decide what happens to him lawfully, man...LOL
of course not, but does the Feds control weather he gets suspended from the league for a year? ::)
Pacman Jones was suspended from the league for a year because he was constantly getting arrestted. The NFL doesn't like paying millions of dollars to idiots.
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Vick got convicted because the NFL did not want him to be the face of the sport, period.
LOL
please! you think the high people in NFL would rather see Vick, getting accused of drug possession & other problems of the law on all the NFL commercials, opposed to, good old boy Bret Farve, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, etc.? its a no-brainer, who they would rather.
i mean, i can understand why you wouldnt agree with that statement, its bold & all...but thats what i feel. i mean, not that he shouldnt have payed the price, but not the extend he has been.
also, his style of play, although amazing for the fan to watch, doesn't produce a winner. he is emulated by all young players wanting to QB. how many guys do you see in college, these "running & gunning" Vick-type players? more & more. Tim Tebow was like that, but Florida made him more of a passer this season. teams wont win with a half quarterback, half running back who thinks run first then pass. teams who win have that "stay in the pocket" QB.
thats just my take on the situation...
the league doesn't decide what happens to him lawfully, man...LOL
of course not, but does the Feds control weather he gets suspended from the league for a year? ::)
Smart guy...you said Vick got CONVICTED because the NFL didn't want him to be the face of the league. are you really this slow?
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Vick got convicted because the NFL did not want him to be the face of the sport, period.
LOL
please! you think the high people in NFL would rather see Vick, getting accused of drug possession & other problems of the law on all the NFL commercials, opposed to, good old boy Bret Farve, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, etc.? its a no-brainer, who they would rather.
i mean, i can understand why you wouldnt agree with that statement, its bold & all...but thats what i feel. i mean, not that he shouldnt have payed the price, but not the extend he has been.
also, his style of play, although amazing for the fan to watch, doesn't produce a winner. he is emulated by all young players wanting to QB. how many guys do you see in college, these "running & gunning" Vick-type players? more & more. Tim Tebow was like that, but Florida made him more of a passer this season. teams wont win with a half quarterback, half running back who thinks run first then pass. teams who win have that "stay in the pocket" QB.
thats just my take on the situation...
the league doesn't decide what happens to him lawfully, man...LOL
of course not, but does the Feds control weather he gets suspended from the league for a year? ::)
Smart guy...you said Vick got CONVICTED because the NFL didn't want him to be the face of the league. are you really this slow?
lmao, nooo! he is doing his time in jail, im cool with that. but the league is going to suspend him for a season too. <-----------that is the part that is overboard, imo.
thatsss allllll....
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Vick got convicted because the NFL did not want him to be the face of the sport, period.
LOL
please! you think the high people in NFL would rather see Vick, getting accused of drug possession & other problems of the law on all the NFL commercials, opposed to, good old boy Bret Farve, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, etc.? its a no-brainer, who they would rather.
i mean, i can understand why you wouldnt agree with that statement, its bold & all...but thats what i feel. i mean, not that he shouldnt have payed the price, but not the extend he has been.
also, his style of play, although amazing for the fan to watch, doesn't produce a winner. he is emulated by all young players wanting to QB. how many guys do you see in college, these "running & gunning" Vick-type players? more & more. Tim Tebow was like that, but Florida made him more of a passer this season. teams wont win with a half quarterback, half running back who thinks run first then pass. teams who win have that "stay in the pocket" QB.
thats just my take on the situation...
the league doesn't decide what happens to him lawfully, man...LOL
of course not, but does the Feds control weather he gets suspended from the league for a year? ::)
Smart guy...you said Vick got CONVICTED because the NFL didn't want him to be the face of the league. are you really this slow?
lmao, nooo! he is doing his time in jail, im cool with that. but the league is going to suspend him for a season too. <-----------that is the part that is overboard, imo.
thatsss allllll....
How is that overboard? Vick is a criminal. He was put in prison. The NFL (or any professional sports league) doesn't want criminals in their league to give them a bad image. Pacman Jones wa ssuspended for a year, and he wasn't even close to being the face of the league, nor was he ever in prison (to the best of my knowledge). The league has rules, and once Vick is out of prison, he has to follow them just like anyone else.
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Vick got convicted because the NFL did not want him to be the face of the sport, period.
LOL
please! you think the high people in NFL would rather see Vick, getting accused of drug possession & other problems of the law on all the NFL commercials, opposed to, good old boy Bret Farve, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, etc.? its a no-brainer, who they would rather.
i mean, i can understand why you wouldnt agree with that statement, its bold & all...but thats what i feel. i mean, not that he shouldnt have payed the price, but not the extend he has been.
also, his style of play, although amazing for the fan to watch, doesn't produce a winner. he is emulated by all young players wanting to QB. how many guys do you see in college, these "running & gunning" Vick-type players? more & more. Tim Tebow was like that, but Florida made him more of a passer this season. teams wont win with a half quarterback, half running back who thinks run first then pass. teams who win have that "stay in the pocket" QB.
thats just my take on the situation...
the league doesn't decide what happens to him lawfully, man...LOL
of course not, but does the Feds control weather he gets suspended from the league for a year? ::)
Smart guy...you said Vick got CONVICTED because the NFL didn't want him to be the face of the league. are you really this slow?
lmao, nooo! he is doing his time in jail, im cool with that. but the league is going to suspend him for a season too. <-----------that is the part that is overboard, imo.
thatsss allllll....
Nothing is overboard man until Vick's ass gets forced to fight to the death or drowned or smashed onto the ground or electrocuted or any of that other SICK, CRUEL, shit that he did to kill all of these innocent dogs, FUCK THIS! This guy got off easy, Watch videos about dogfighting and look at these poor, innocent dogs and what happens to them, people fucking disgust me, how anyone can ever defend this cruel piece of shit I will never know, he can rot in hell for all I care
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Vick got convicted because the NFL did not want him to be the face of the sport, period.
LOL
please! you think the high people in NFL would rather see Vick, getting accused of drug possession & other problems of the law on all the NFL commercials, opposed to, good old boy Bret Farve, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, etc.? its a no-brainer, who they would rather.
i mean, i can understand why you wouldnt agree with that statement, its bold & all...but thats what i feel. i mean, not that he shouldnt have payed the price, but not the extend he has been.
also, his style of play, although amazing for the fan to watch, doesn't produce a winner. he is emulated by all young players wanting to QB. how many guys do you see in college, these "running & gunning" Vick-type players? more & more. Tim Tebow was like that, but Florida made him more of a passer this season. teams wont win with a half quarterback, half running back who thinks run first then pass. teams who win have that "stay in the pocket" QB.
thats just my take on the situation...
the league doesn't decide what happens to him lawfully, man...LOL
of course not, but does the Feds control weather he gets suspended from the league for a year? ::)
Smart guy...you said Vick got CONVICTED because the NFL didn't want him to be the face of the league. are you really this slow?
lmao, nooo! he is doing his time in jail, im cool with that. but the league is going to suspend him for a season too. <-----------that is the part that is overboard, imo.
thatsss allllll....
Nothing is overboard man until Vick's ass gets forced to fight to the death or drowned or smashed onto the ground or electrocuted or any of that other SICK, CRUEL, shit that he did to kill all of these innocent dogs, FUCK THIS! This guy got off easy, Watch videos about dogfighting and look at these poor, innocent dogs and what happens to them, people fucking disgust me, how anyone can ever defend this cruel piece of shit I will never know, he can rot in hell for all I care
I've never agreed with anything spice has said, but every word of that was truth. Granted, I don't even think torturing Vick would be overboard (an eye for an eye), but he deserved what he got.
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free vick
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Vick got convicted because the NFL did not want him to be the face of the sport, period.
LOL
please! you think the high people in NFL would rather see Vick, getting accused of drug possession & other problems of the law on all the NFL commercials, opposed to, good old boy Bret Farve, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, etc.? its a no-brainer, who they would rather.
i mean, i can understand why you wouldnt agree with that statement, its bold & all...but thats what i feel. i mean, not that he shouldnt have payed the price, but not the extend he has been.
also, his style of play, although amazing for the fan to watch, doesn't produce a winner. he is emulated by all young players wanting to QB. how many guys do you see in college, these "running & gunning" Vick-type players? more & more. Tim Tebow was like that, but Florida made him more of a passer this season. teams wont win with a half quarterback, half running back who thinks run first then pass. teams who win have that "stay in the pocket" QB.
thats just my take on the situation...
the league doesn't decide what happens to him lawfully, man...LOL
of course not, but does the Feds control weather he gets suspended from the league for a year? ::)
Smart guy...you said Vick got CONVICTED because the NFL didn't want him to be the face of the league. are you really this slow?
lmao, nooo! he is doing his time in jail, im cool with that. but the league is going to suspend him for a season too. <-----------that is the part that is overboard, imo.
thatsss allllll....
Nothing is overboard man until Vick's ass gets forced to fight to the death or drowned or smashed onto the ground or electrocuted or any of that other SICK, CRUEL, shit that he did to kill all of these innocent dogs, FUCK THIS! This guy got off easy, Watch videos about dogfighting and look at these poor, innocent dogs and what happens to them, people fucking disgust me, how anyone can ever defend this cruel piece of shit I will never know, he can rot in hell for all I care
I've never agreed with anything spice has said, but every word of that was truth. Granted, I don't even think torturing Vick would be overboard (an eye for an eye), but he deserved what he got.
have you guys even heard a man scream for his life before? its fucking horrible. i would rather see a dog die than a fucking human being.
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Vick got convicted because the NFL did not want him to be the face of the sport, period.
LOL
please! you think the high people in NFL would rather see Vick, getting accused of drug possession & other problems of the law on all the NFL commercials, opposed to, good old boy Bret Farve, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, etc.? its a no-brainer, who they would rather.
i mean, i can understand why you wouldnt agree with that statement, its bold & all...but thats what i feel. i mean, not that he shouldnt have payed the price, but not the extend he has been.
also, his style of play, although amazing for the fan to watch, doesn't produce a winner. he is emulated by all young players wanting to QB. how many guys do you see in college, these "running & gunning" Vick-type players? more & more. Tim Tebow was like that, but Florida made him more of a passer this season. teams wont win with a half quarterback, half running back who thinks run first then pass. teams who win have that "stay in the pocket" QB.
thats just my take on the situation...
the league doesn't decide what happens to him lawfully, man...LOL
of course not, but does the Feds control weather he gets suspended from the league for a year? ::)
Smart guy...you said Vick got CONVICTED because the NFL didn't want him to be the face of the league. are you really this slow?
lmao, nooo! he is doing his time in jail, im cool with that. but the league is going to suspend him for a season too. <-----------that is the part that is overboard, imo.
thatsss allllll....
Nothing is overboard man until Vick's ass gets forced to fight to the death or drowned or smashed onto the ground or electrocuted or any of that other SICK, CRUEL, shit that he did to kill all of these innocent dogs, FUCK THIS! This guy got off easy, Watch videos about dogfighting and look at these poor, innocent dogs and what happens to them, people fucking disgust me, how anyone can ever defend this cruel piece of shit I will never know, he can rot in hell for all I care
I've never agreed with anything spice has said, but every word of that was truth. Granted, I don't even think torturing Vick would be overboard (an eye for an eye), but he deserved what he got.
have you guys even heard a man scream for his life before? its fucking horrible. i would rather see a dog die than a fucking human being.
If the man screaming for his life is Michael Vick, i'd love to hear it.
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^well Spice clearly an eviormentalist & your either a racist or a Vick hater lol.
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The NFL (or any professional sports league) doesn't want criminals in their league to give them a bad image.
talking about a bad image.......a lot of NFL players are coke heads ::)
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2 extremes. LMAO. muthafuckaz sayin he should get off with a slap on the wrist and muthafuckaz sayin he should die... 2 extremes...when it comes down to it, he got what he deserves. it shouldn't be any worse, nor any easier.
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it shouldn't be any worse, nor any easier.
8)
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The NFL (or any professional sports league) doesn't want criminals in their league to give them a bad image.
talking about a bad image.......a lot of NFL players are coke heads ::)
And they should be kicked out of the league just the same.
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^well Spice clearly an eviormentalist & your either a racist or a Vick hater lol.
I'm a racist for not bowing down and thinking Vick is above any other life on this planet because he can run fast? Nice logic.
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^well Spice clearly an eviormentalist & your either a racist or a Vick hater lol.
I'm a racist for not bowing down and thinking Vick is above any other life on this planet because he can run fast? Nice logic.
comments like "If the man screaming for his life is Michael Vick, i'd love to hear it.", make people wonder... ::)
either way, its clear your all either Vick-haters or extreme envoirmentalists lol.
i mean, its just a thing they do it down south. you think only thug/criminals do this? hell no, all people down there do shit like this. you think Vick was doing this because he needed the money? ::)
dude signed a MAJOR contract, which made him the highest paid QB, if im not mistaken. its just a custom down there, like smokin weed in Cali. :P
if Kobe got caught smokin weed would you be screamin "JAIL TIME", NIK?
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^well Spice clearly an eviormentalist & your either a racist or a Vick hater lol.
I'm a racist for not bowing down and thinking Vick is above any other life on this planet because he can run fast? Nice logic.
comments like "If the man screaming for his life is Michael Vick, i'd love to hear it.", make people wonder... ::)
either way, its clear your all either Vick-haters or extreme envoirmentalists lol.
i mean, its just a thing they do it down south. you think only thug/criminals do this? hell no, all people down there do shit like this. you think Vick was doing this because he needed the money? ::)
dude signed a MAJOR contract, which made him the highest paid QB, if im not mistaken. its just a custom down there, like smokin weed in Cali. :P
if Kobe got caught smokin weed would you be screamin "JAIL TIME", NIK?
Its a thing to do down south? I think not. I live in VA, and have been all over the south, and have never seen or even remotely heard of anything like this. I'm a big believer in an eye for an eye, which is why I would love to hear Vick scream for his life. He tortured and took the lives of other living things, therefore, I believe he deserves the same treatment. It has nothing to do with race, as I would eb saying the same thing about Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, or any other athlete that isn't black.
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^well Spice clearly an eviormentalist & your either a racist or a Vick hater lol.
I'm a racist for not bowing down and thinking Vick is above any other life on this planet because he can run fast? Nice logic.
comments like "If the man screaming for his life is Michael Vick, i'd love to hear it.", make people wonder... ::)
either way, its clear your all either Vick-haters or extreme envoirmentalists lol.
i mean, its just a thing they do it down south. you think only thug/criminals do this? hell no, all people down there do shit like this. you think Vick was doing this because he needed the money? ::)
dude signed a MAJOR contract, which made him the highest paid QB, if im not mistaken. its just a custom down there, like smokin weed in Cali. :P
if Kobe got caught smokin weed would you be screamin "JAIL TIME", NIK?
Its a thing to do down south? I think not. I live in VA, and have been all over the south, and have never seen or even remotely heard of anything like this. I'm a big believer in an eye for an eye, which is why I would love to hear Vick scream for his life. He tortured and took the lives of other living things, therefore, I believe he deserves the same treatment. It has nothing to do with race, as I would eb saying the same thing about Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, or any other athlete that isn't black.
fair enough, i mis-interpreted what you said, my bad...
your entitled to your own opinon on the Vick situation.
but, i do know that, it is a down south custom, like in the backwoods though, not the cities...but i havent the slightest where you have been.
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if Kobe got caught smokin weed would you be screamin "JAIL TIME", NIK?
you're not that smart, man...honestly.
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^your avoiding the question, man...honestly.
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http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3718304
The report, dated Aug. 28, 2008, says, "Vick, Peace and Phillips thought it was funny to watch the pit bull dogs belonging to Bad Newz Kennels injure or kill the other dogs." The report has names and phrases redacted in order to protect the anonymity of certain individuals who cooperated with investigators.
The report also states in mid-April of 2007, Vick, Peace and Phillips hung approximately three dogs who did not perform well in a "rolling session," which indicates the readiness of a dog to fight. According to the report, the three men hung the dogs "by placing a nylon cord over a 2 X 4 that was nailed to two trees located next to the big shed. They also drowned approximately three dogs by putting the dogs' heads in a five gallon bucket of water."
Vick initially told authorities "while he assisted Phillips and Peace in the killing of the dogs, he did not actually kill the dogs," but "helped Phillips toss several dogs to the side," according to the report.
However, the report says Vick took back that statement when he failed a polygraph test. "Vick failed the examination as it related to the killing of the dogs in April 2007. Ultimately, Vick recanted his previous statement wherein he said he was not actually involved in the killing of six to eight dogs. ... Vick admitted taking part in the actual hanging of the dogs."
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hanging dogs from a tree, and drowning them because they didnt fight well? tell me this guy doesn't deserve to be in prison for that. looks like playing football does make you retarded in the end
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I'm no fan of large dogs, mainly pit bulls & rottweilers but UN-UH! I don't believe in doing that kinda stuff to them. I'd have no problem with st. bernards. Never saw them in real life. I used to live in a cesspool suburb full of a__holes & people with large dogs who don't get kept on a leash, just let them run around everywhere. >:(