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Artist: Shady Soldiers
Mixtapes: The Re-Up
Out: 06/12/06
Label Shady Records
Cover:
(http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/6826/thereupbf6pc3.jpg)
01 Were Back (Eminem ft. Obie Trice & Ca$his) (Produced by Eminem)
02 You Dont Know (Eminem ft. 50 Cent, Ca$his & Lloyd Bank$) (Produced by Eminem)
03 City of Gold (Bobby Creekwater) (Produced by Alchemist)
04 No Apologies (Eminem) (Produced by Dr. Dre & Denaun Porter)
05 Get Low (Stat Quo) (Produced by Dr. Dre & Denaun Porter)
06 Talkin All That (Ca$his) (Produced by Eminem & Rikinatti)
07 Murder (Bizarre ft. Kuniva) (Produced by Alchemist)
08 Billion Bucks (Stat Quo) (Produced by L.T. Moe)
09 Classy ***** (50 Cent ft. Mobb Deep) (Produced by Alchemist)
10 Somethin Bout
(Ca$his ft. Snoop Dogg, Bishop Lamont & Nate Dogg) (Produced by Dr. Dre & Mike Elizondo)
11 Take It Back (Eminem ft. Nas, Ca$his, & Stat Quo) (Produced by Eminem)
12 I Got This Feelin (Bobby Creekwater) (Produced by Denaun Porter & Eminem)
12 Sleep In (Obie Trice ft. Eminem, Stat Quo, Bobby Creekwater & 50 Cent (Produced by Eminem)
13 B.G.s In Tha Fast Lane (Ca$his ft. Bishop Lamont) (Produced by Dr. Dre & Focus)
14 She A Lie (D-12) (Produced by Denaun Porter & Eminem)
15 Said It Before (Eminem) (Produced by Eminem)
16 Smack That (Remix) (Akon ft. Eminem & Stat Quo) (Produced by Eminem)
17 Cry Now (Remix) (Obie Trice ft. Kuniva, Bobby Creekwater, Ca$his, & Stat Quo) (Produced by Witt & Pep)
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what´s up with the wow? the tracklist looks like trash. Stat´s wack,Em´s extremely average, 50´s cool on some songs, Bobby Creekwater(change your fucking name) is weak,Cashis is weak,Banks is aiight,Prodigy needs to stop rapping, Bizarre needs to commit suicide, Kuniva´s cool and i could go on.
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dope cover, dope tracklist...
by the looks of the song titles, could be expecting some more serious tracks...
when does this drop?
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I hope Em finally speaks about how come he's so whack now and shit
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^shouldnt you be playing world of warcraft or some shit? :D
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whatīs up with the wow? the tracklist looks like trash. Statīs wack,Emīs extremely average, 50īs cool on some songs, Bobby Creekwater(change your fucking name) is weak,Cashis is weak,Banks is aiight,Prodigy needs to stop rapping, Bizarre needs to commit suicide, Kunivaīs cool and i could go on.
Lol you gotta be a lil bit more optimistic ;)
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10 Somethin Bout
(Ca$his ft. Snoop Dogg, Bishop Lamont & Nate Dogg)" (Produced by Dr. Dre & Mike Elizondo)
that one look interesting
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whatīs up with the wow? the tracklist looks like trash. Statīs wack,Emīs extremely average, 50īs cool on some songs, Bobby Creekwater(change your fucking name) is weak,Cashis is weak,Banks is aiight,Prodigy needs to stop rapping, Bizarre needs to commit suicide, Kunivaīs cool and i could go on.
Lol you gotta be a lil bit more optimistic ;)
:loser:
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i'm lookin forward to this, cant imagine em rapping about butt holes after his best friend passed...
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i'm lookin forward to this, cant imagine em rapping about butt holes after his best friend passed...
then you got a bad imagination
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^not everyone has buttholes on they mind 24/7 like yourself!
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^not everyone has buttholes on they mind 24/7 like yourself!
nah i just mean.. hwo hard can it be to imagine Eminem rap about butt holes after his best friend passed away.. i got it in my mind right now
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i'm lookin forward to this, cant imagine em rapping about butt holes after his best friend passed...
then you got a bad imagination
Yeah, I haven't heard the song, but what about Smack That?
Em needs too up his game seriously.
10 Somethin Bout
(Ca$his ft. Snoop Dogg, Bishop Lamont & Nate Dogg)" (Produced by Dr. Dre & Mike Elizondo)
that one look interesting
word.
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"Said It Before" looks like a "When Im Gone" style track
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...i just wanna hear the Dre beats
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*shudders at all the Denaun Porter & Eminem production*
When you thought the album cover was the worst thing about the album...
I'ma give it a chance though.
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whatīs up with the wow? the tracklist looks like trash. Statīs wack,Emīs extremely average, 50īs cool on some songs, Bobby Creekwater(change your fucking name) is weak,Cashis is weak,Banks is aiight,Prodigy needs to stop rapping, Bizarre needs to commit suicide, Kunivaīs cool and i could go on.
lol, pretty much on point.
far too much stat quo.
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The album looks pretty dope, and its good to see another track with Snoop over Dre production!
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They dumped The Game for this????
I'ma check it but i find it funny 50 cut Game loose coz Game wanted to work with Nas. Will Em's workin with him now wat 50 do about that
& whoever said 50 sounds good sometimes & em's average u need ur rap fan pass revoked u dummy
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The album looks pretty dope, and its good to see another track with Snoop over Dre production!
That was my first reaction, too...
I dunno if this will be any good, but I'll most def give it a try.
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Still worth the listen.
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10 Somethin Bout
(Ca$his ft. Snoop Dogg, Bishop Lamont & Nate Dogg) (Produced by Dr. Dre & Mike Elizondo)
this is why i will be downloading the album.
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The album looks pretty dope, and its good to see another track with Snoop over Dre production!
That was my first reaction, too...
I dunno if this will be any good, but I'll most def give it a try.
the white devil?
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& whoever said 50 sounds good sometimes & em's average u need ur rap fan pass revoked u dummy
what´s wrong with that statement? 50 comes correct every now and then, not sayin he´s great or anything close to it but he drops some dope shit every now and then. and Em been coming with weak shit for several years now. and fuck outta here with your homo hip hop passes.
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Hopefully it will be better than what people expect
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10 Somethin Bout
(Ca$his ft. Snoop Dogg, Bishop Lamont & Nate Dogg)(Produced by Dr. Dre & Mike Elizondo)
that one look interesting
Indeed it does.
Overall, this project could go either way. Might be hot, might be wack, might be anywhere in between.
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People let's not forget how dope some mixtape tracks were that got released by the Aftermath camp over the years, of course, Aftermath' prime is long over, but hey maybe it's a re-up lol
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Source ?? That looks to good to be true
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& whoever said 50 sounds good sometimes & em's average u need ur rap fan pass revoked u dummy
whatīs wrong with that statement? 50 comes correct every now and then, not sayin heīs great or anything close to it but he drops some dope shit every now and then. and Em been coming with weak shit for several years now. and fuck outta here with your homo hip hop passes.
Eminem is to hip hop what elvis was to rock n roll
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On the front cover, who is the guy in the back with the bandana over his face, i could swear it looks like game.
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No Busta appearance? Ok?
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Looks dope
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Looks dope, but we need a source.
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& whoever said 50 sounds good sometimes & em's average u need ur rap fan pass revoked u dummy
whatīs wrong with that statement? 50 comes correct every now and then, not sayin heīs great or anything close to it but he drops some dope shit every now and then. and Em been coming with weak shit for several years now. and fuck outta here with your homo hip hop passes.
For several years now? What, one album. Judging Eminem based on Encore would be like judging Nas based on Nastradamus. Em could come back with more bullshit or he could come back like Nas did with Stillmatic and go right back to where he was with The Eminem Show (and if you think that album was "extremely average" then we need not discuss music anymore).
I'll judge this album after I hear it, not before.
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10 Somethin Bout
(Ca$his ft. Snoop Dogg, Bishop Lamont & Nate Dogg) (Produced by Dr. Dre & Mike Elizondo)
this is why i will be downloading the album.
;D ;D
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[The Eminem Show (and if you think that album was "extremely average" then we need not discuss music anymore).
It was average.
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& whoever said 50 sounds good sometimes & em's average u need ur rap fan pass revoked u dummy
whatīs wrong with that statement? 50 comes correct every now and then, not sayin heīs great or anything close to it but he drops some dope shit every now and then. and Em been coming with weak shit for several years now. and fuck outta here with your homo hip hop passes.
For several years now? What, one album. Judging Eminem based on Encore would be like judging Nas based on Nastradamus. Em could come back with more bullshit or he could come back like Nas did with Stillmatic and go right back to where he was with The Eminem Show (and if you think that album was "extremely average" then we need not discuss music anymore).
I'll judge this album after I hear it, not before.
Emīs been coming with weak shit for 3 years and in those 3 years heīs dropped maybe 3 songs thatīs been dope. and coming from a guy who had the potential to be one of the greatest thatīs sayin a lot. and Nas' "weaK" material is way better then Emīs weak material. as a matter of fact Nas so called weak shit still shits on most of the music that was released at that time and thatīs being released now. and the Eminem Show wasnīt extremely average but it was average. Emīs collabos and mixtape shit been weak for the last couple of years aswell and dudeīs ran outta creativity and he can only follow the same corny formula.
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& whoever said 50 sounds good sometimes & em's average u need ur rap fan pass revoked u dummy
whatīs wrong with that statement? 50 comes correct every now and then, not sayin heīs great or anything close to it but he drops some dope shit every now and then. and Em been coming with weak shit for several years now. and fuck outta here with your homo hip hop passes.
For several years now? What, one album. Judging Eminem based on Encore would be like judging Nas based on Nastradamus. Em could come back with more bullshit or he could come back like Nas did with Stillmatic and go right back to where he was with The Eminem Show (and if you think that album was "extremely average" then we need not discuss music anymore).
I'll judge this album after I hear it, not before.
Emīs been coming with weak shit for 3 years and in those 3 years heīs dropped maybe 3 songs thatīs been dope. and coming from a guy who had the potential to be one of the greatest thatīs sayin a lot. and Nas' "weaK" material is way better then Emīs weak material. as a matter of fact Nas so called weak shit still shits on most of the music that was released at that time and thatīs being released now. and the Eminem Show wasnīt extremely average but it was average. Emīs collabos and mixtape shit been weak for the last couple of years aswell and dudeīs ran outta creativity and he can only follow the same corny formula.
real talk!
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& whoever said 50 sounds good sometimes & em's average u need ur rap fan pass revoked u dummy
whatīs wrong with that statement? 50 comes correct every now and then, not sayin heīs great or anything close to it but he drops some dope shit every now and then. and Em been coming with weak shit for several years now. and fuck outta here with your homo hip hop passes.
For several years now? What, one album. Judging Eminem based on Encore would be like judging Nas based on Nastradamus. Em could come back with more bullshit or he could come back like Nas did with Stillmatic and go right back to where he was with The Eminem Show (and if you think that album was "extremely average" then we need not discuss music anymore).
I'll judge this album after I hear it, not before.
Emīs been coming with weak shit for 3 years and in those 3 years heīs dropped maybe 3 songs thatīs been dope. and coming from a guy who had the potential to be one of the greatest thatīs sayin a lot. and Nas' "weaK" material is way better then Emīs weak material. as a matter of fact Nas so called weak shit still shits on most of the music that was released at that time and thatīs being released now. and the Eminem Show wasnīt extremely average but it was average. Emīs collabos and mixtape shit been weak for the last couple of years aswell and dudeīs ran outta creativity and he can only follow the same corny formula.
I wasn't comparing Nastradamus to Encore, I was comparing it to Nas and what Nas was capable of.
Anyone that calls Em Show average is not a music fan. They are hip hop only fans who have a hard time recognizing creativity when it isn't displayed in the manner they are used to see it in. Was it perfect? No, far from it, but it was a hell of a lot better than the vast majority of other rap albums. Now if we are judging on a universal scale and comparing it to albums like Dark Side of the Moon, Vs, Born To Run, Who's Next, Electric Ladyland, Songs in the Key of Life, The Black Album (Metallica's) or more recently Elephant, then I agree completely with you and deem it very average. But if we are comparing it to Get Rich or Die Trying, The Black Album (Jay Z's), Street Disciple, anything by the Diplomats, or Joe Budden, then to call it average is just not right.
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10 Somethin Bout
(Ca$his ft. Snoop Dogg, Bishop Lamont & Nate Dogg) (Produced by Dr. Dre & Mike Elizondo)[/b]
damn cant wait for that one!
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& whoever said 50 sounds good sometimes & em's average u need ur rap fan pass revoked u dummy
what´s wrong with that statement? 50 comes correct every now and then, not sayin he´s great or anything close to it but he drops some dope shit every now and then. and Em been coming with weak shit for several years now. and fuck outta here with your homo hip hop passes.
For several years now? What, one album. Judging Eminem based on Encore would be like judging Nas based on Nastradamus. Em could come back with more bullshit or he could come back like Nas did with Stillmatic and go right back to where he was with The Eminem Show (and if you think that album was "extremely average" then we need not discuss music anymore).
I'll judge this album after I hear it, not before.
Em´s been coming with weak shit for 3 years and in those 3 years he´s dropped maybe 3 songs that´s been dope. and coming from a guy who had the potential to be one of the greatest that´s sayin a lot. and Nas' "weaK" material is way better then Em´s weak material. as a matter of fact Nas so called weak shit still shits on most of the music that was released at that time and that´s being released now. and the Eminem Show wasn´t extremely average but it was average. Em´s collabos and mixtape shit been weak for the last couple of years aswell and dude´s ran outta creativity and he can only follow the same corny formula.
I wasn't comparing Nastradamus to Encore, I was comparing it to Nas and what Nas was capable of.
Anyone that calls Em Show average is not a music fan. They are hip hop only fans who have a hard time recognizing creativity when it isn't displayed in the manner they are used to see it in. Was it perfect? No, far from it, but it was a hell of a lot better than the vast majority of other rap albums. Now if we are judging on a universal scale and comparing it to albums like Dark Side of the Moon, Vs, Born To Run, Who's Next, Electric Ladyland, Songs in the Key of Life, The Black Album (Metallica's) or more recently Elephant, then I agree completely with you and deem it very average. But if we are comparing it to Get Rich or Die Trying, The Black Album (Jay Z's), Street Disciple, anything by the Diplomats, or Joe Budden, then to call it average is just not right.
yea i´m not a music fan ::) get the fuck outta here. and the only thing that was anywhere near great on TES was Em´s flow, his flow was perfected on that album but his lyrics were lacking. Em´s production on that album was weak and boring, he talked about the same ole' shit. now Street´s Disciple was a good album but not great, but atleast Nas went outside the box and tried something very risky for an artist in his position and Em played it safe and predictable with TES. but yea, i´m not a music fan and your opinion is the only one that counts round here :laugh:
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& whoever said 50 sounds good sometimes & em's average u need ur rap fan pass revoked u dummy
what´s wrong with that statement? 50 comes correct every now and then, not sayin he´s great or anything close to it but he drops some dope shit every now and then. and Em been coming with weak shit for several years now. and fuck outta here with your homo hip hop passes.
For several years now? What, one album. Judging Eminem based on Encore would be like judging Nas based on Nastradamus. Em could come back with more bullshit or he could come back like Nas did with Stillmatic and go right back to where he was with The Eminem Show (and if you think that album was "extremely average" then we need not discuss music anymore).
I'll judge this album after I hear it, not before.
Em´s been coming with weak shit for 3 years and in those 3 years he´s dropped maybe 3 songs that´s been dope. and coming from a guy who had the potential to be one of the greatest that´s sayin a lot. and Nas' "weaK" material is way better then Em´s weak material. as a matter of fact Nas so called weak shit still shits on most of the music that was released at that time and that´s being released now. and the Eminem Show wasn´t extremely average but it was average. Em´s collabos and mixtape shit been weak for the last couple of years aswell and dude´s ran outta creativity and he can only follow the same corny formula.
I wasn't comparing Nastradamus to Encore, I was comparing it to Nas and what Nas was capable of.
Anyone that calls Em Show average is not a music fan. They are hip hop only fans who have a hard time recognizing creativity when it isn't displayed in the manner they are used to see it in. Was it perfect? No, far from it, but it was a hell of a lot better than the vast majority of other rap albums. Now if we are judging on a universal scale and comparing it to albums like Dark Side of the Moon, Vs, Born To Run, Who's Next, Electric Ladyland, Songs in the Key of Life, The Black Album (Metallica's) or more recently Elephant, then I agree completely with you and deem it very average. But if we are comparing it to Get Rich or Die Trying, The Black Album (Jay Z's), Street Disciple, anything by the Diplomats, or Joe Budden, then to call it average is just not right.
yea i´m not a music fan ::) get the fuck outta here. and the only thing that was anywhere near great on TES was Em´s flow, his flow was perfected on that album but his lyrics were lacking. Em´s production on that album was weak and boring, he talked about the same ole' shit. now Street´s Disciple was a good album but not great, but atleast Nas went outside the box and tried something very risky for an artist in his position and Em played it safe and predictable with TES. but yea, i´m not a music fan and your opinion is the only one that counts round here :laugh:
Games album gotta be average then too....
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^lyrically it´s not better but the production on the DA is lightyears ahead of the production on the TES. and of course then all G-Unit albums would be average aswell coz they been recycling songs for the last 5 years.
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^lyrically itīs not better but the production on the DA is lightyears ahead of the production on the TES. and of course then all G-Unit albums would be average aswell coz they been recycling songs for the last 5 years.
Dont agree with that but thats a matter of personal taste., Im glad you agree about the lyrics though :bandit:
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On the front cover, who is the guy in the back with the bandana over his face, i could swear it looks like game.
It does look like Game. Almost looks like it says "Compton" on his hat.
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yea iīm not a music fan ::) get the fuck outta here. and the only thing that was anywhere near great on TES was Emīs flow, his flow was perfected on that album but his lyrics were lacking. Emīs production on that album was weak and boring, he talked about the same ole' shit. now Streetīs Disciple was a good album but not great, but atleast Nas went outside the box and tried something very risky for an artist in his position and Em played it safe and predictable with TES. but yea, iīm not a music fan and your opinion is the only one that counts round here :laugh:
now i consider myself a pretty well informed hip hop fan. I like a whole range of artists and albums and can usually see why someone wouldnt like osmething or does like something... but i still dont understand why people think tes is so "average." are you mad cause he's a different artist then he was on mmlp? like you said his flow is perfect... as well as very original on every song. Lyrically it wasnt as bad as people make it out to be, he just was a step down from before on the schemes and multi's and emcee type stuff. But he made up for that cause the album was 10 times more mature and the majority of the songs had alot of meaning...hence the lack of top notch emcee versatility that he displayed on mmlp. yeah he talked about the same shit but thats em...and at the time it wasnt as played out as it is now. if your complaining about the production i think your just nit picking cause even though he's not dre every beat fits the song flawlessy on that album. thats what i think about that album...my buddy likes it more then mmlp, im kind of inbetween, depends on what kinda mood im in. but to say its only average i just cant understand...if you like eminem(old em) i dont see how you could dislike this album
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On the front cover, who is the guy in the back with the bandana over his face, i could swear it looks like game.
It does look like Game. Almost looks like it says "Compton" on his hat.
It's Cashis.
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& whoever said 50 sounds good sometimes & em's average u need ur rap fan pass revoked u dummy
whatīs wrong with that statement? 50 comes correct every now and then, not sayin heīs great or anything close to it but he drops some dope shit every now and then. and Em been coming with weak shit for several years now. and fuck outta here with your homo hip hop passes.
For several years now? What, one album. Judging Eminem based on Encore would be like judging Nas based on Nastradamus. Em could come back with more bullshit or he could come back like Nas did with Stillmatic and go right back to where he was with The Eminem Show (and if you think that album was "extremely average" then we need not discuss music anymore).
I'll judge this album after I hear it, not before.
Emīs been coming with weak shit for 3 years and in those 3 years heīs dropped maybe 3 songs thatīs been dope. and coming from a guy who had the potential to be one of the greatest thatīs sayin a lot. and Nas' "weaK" material is way better then Emīs weak material. as a matter of fact Nas so called weak shit still shits on most of the music that was released at that time and thatīs being released now. and the Eminem Show wasnīt extremely average but it was average. Emīs collabos and mixtape shit been weak for the last couple of years aswell and dudeīs ran outta creativity and he can only follow the same corny formula.
I wasn't comparing Nastradamus to Encore, I was comparing it to Nas and what Nas was capable of.
Anyone that calls Em Show average is not a music fan. They are hip hop only fans who have a hard time recognizing creativity when it isn't displayed in the manner they are used to see it in. Was it perfect? No, far from it, but it was a hell of a lot better than the vast majority of other rap albums. Now if we are judging on a universal scale and comparing it to albums like Dark Side of the Moon, Vs, Born To Run, Who's Next, Electric Ladyland, Songs in the Key of Life, The Black Album (Metallica's) or more recently Elephant, then I agree completely with you and deem it very average. But if we are comparing it to Get Rich or Die Trying, The Black Album (Jay Z's), Street Disciple, anything by the Diplomats, or Joe Budden, then to call it average is just not right.
yea iīm not a music fan ::) get the fuck outta here. and the only thing that was anywhere near great on TES was Emīs flow, his flow was perfected on that album but his lyrics were lacking. Emīs production on that album was weak and boring, he talked about the same ole' shit. now Streetīs Disciple was a good album but not great, but atleast Nas went outside the box and tried something very risky for an artist in his position and Em played it safe and predictable with TES. but yea, iīm not a music fan and your opinion is the only one that counts round here :laugh:
I didn't say straight out you weren't a music fan. Read the bold lettering. I will solidly claim that anyone that only listens to hip hop music is not a fan of music but just of hip hop. I have very little time for close minded people. But I left it very open when I mentioned all those other albums and said I would agree with you if that's what you meant. The Eminem Show is a Rock and Roll album and fans of only hip hop just won't get it. Sure it has it's share of Eminem staple crap like Without Me, Superman, Business etc, but the White Americas, Soldiers, Cleaning Out My Closets we're just out right good songs. Was anyone one song on the album as good as Stan or The Way I am? Maybe not, but as a whole it really stood up.
What was wrong with the production? It was fantastic. Perfectly clear, highlighted the moods he was going for, showcased his rapping. What do you want? Or are you like most rap fans and not know what production actually means, and are confusing it with composition? The production of a song is the song's polishing not the music's creation. When Dre made G Thang the production side of it was cutting the loop where he saw fit and mixing it with other aspects of the original music and placing the rap in at the right place. It had nothing to do with the melody because Dre is not a composer, at least not a good one. It was all Leon Haywood and friends.
Now if you think the composing of Em Show was terrible then I'll just have to respectfully disagree based on rap standards. At least it wasn't filled with blatant samples just looped over and over and it showcased a unique sound on many fronts. I thought Square Dance, Soldier, Till I Collapse, and Say Goodbye To Hollywood were fine compositions. Do they stand up to Springsteen's Jungleland? Obviously not even close but there is more composition talent in Jungleland than in every Hip Hop song ever recorded combined. Remember it's just rap and the purpose of the music is to be in the background while the lyrics, worldplay, flow, and rhyme patterns should be at the forefront.
What was so outside the box about Street Disciple? Nas was pretending to be Jesus on God's Son. And he's ignorantly ranted about black society a number of times before. I don't see what made SD so unique other than it was a double CD. The lyrics? I want you to actually sit down read rap lyrics outloud and then do the same with actual poetry from the great poets. Now do the same with the great lyricists of the modern era. Tupac at his best can hold up alright but many others cannot. I started out a rap fan and leaned towards it for years shunning "rock" but years ago I realized that nothing, and I mean nothing by Nas, Jay, Biggie, or Mos, or Dre 3000 at their best came even close to Dylan at his best.
Read, just read with out the music or style to hide the crap and cover up the stupidity, the lyrics to It's Alright Ma
http://www.bobdylan.com/songs/itsalright.html
or My Back Pages
http://www.bobdylan.com/songs/backpages.html
Just reading them made me think they were amazing. Nas on Illmatic is very good, as a package Nas is amazing. The rhymes and the way it sounds while rapped are phenominal but when you strip it down and just read slowly you get very little from it.