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Title: Who has a better chance of beating McCain?
Post by: J @ M @ L on February 07, 2008, 10:16:21 AM
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Title: Re: Who has a better chance of beating McCain?
Post by: M Dogg™ on February 07, 2008, 10:35:52 AM
Obama, he can bring more people together. I know plenty of independents who love Obama, but prefer McCain over Hillary.
Title: Re: Who has a better chance of beating McCain?
Post by: Javier on February 07, 2008, 11:34:27 AM
Obama has no history of "dirty" politics, so the conservatives don't have that much material to attack Obama on.  We all know Clinton's history.  Obama is seen as the guy that people disagree with but do not hate, Hilary is seen as the one people just hate. 
Title: Re: Who has a better chance of beating McCain?
Post by: 7even on February 07, 2008, 12:12:12 PM
Obama in my opinion.. him winning the more rural states is a good indication, as those are the ones republicans are usually stronger in. Obama is also better at inspiring independent people, or people who usually don't even go to the polls. Obama should also be destroying McCain in TV debates.
Title: Re: Who has a better chance of beating McCain?
Post by: Kill on February 07, 2008, 01:04:31 PM
Obama in my opinion.. him winning the more rural states is a good indication, as those are the ones republicans are usually stronger in. Obama is also better at inspiring independent people, or people who usually don't even go to the polls. Obama should also be destroying McCain in TV debates.
Agreed. He'd win the Hilary states like NY and Cali anyways and he'd have a better chance in, say, Ohio or New Mexico and other swing states I assume. Most people who are politically volatile or just still undecided should have less reservations towards him, plus we've seen now that he can win predominately white states, too. And I guess those latinos would after all settle for him too if he were to be the democratic candidate. Also, probably more blacks than ever would go out and vote
Title: Re: Who has a better chance of beating McCain?
Post by: Narrator on February 07, 2008, 04:48:13 PM
Obama has no history of "dirty" politics, so the conservatives don't have that much material to attack Obama on.  We all know Clinton's history.  Obama is seen as the guy that people disagree with but do not hate, Hilary is seen as the one people just hate. 

Well said, although I think we should keep in mind that we don't know what dirt will be dug up on Obama's past before November.  The Muslim rumors alone were fairly potent.
Title: Re: Who has a better chance of beating McCain?
Post by: Trauma-san on February 07, 2008, 05:12:06 PM
I think Obama has a better chance but Hillary would also defeat McCain.  Obama's entire attraction though is on things that can't be assaulted... vapid platitudinous speeches, he has no background to attack, he doesn't even have many policies to attack.  How can you argue against a guy saying "Hope! Love! Charity! Better Families!" There's no way to run an effective campaign against that if people are content just hearing him ramble off things like that with no ability to bring about any of it. 
Title: Re: Who has a better chance of beating McCain?
Post by: Kill on February 08, 2008, 02:02:06 AM
Obama has no history of "dirty" politics, so the conservatives don't have that much material to attack Obama on.  We all know Clinton's history.  Obama is seen as the guy that people disagree with but do not hate, Hilary is seen as the one people just hate. 

Well said, although I think we should keep in mind that we don't know what dirt will be dug up on Obama's past before November.  The Muslim rumors alone were fairly potent.

what were those rumours? like he's down with Farrakhan? he definitely has muslim ancestors, but that ain't no secret
Title: Re: Who has a better chance of beating McCain?
Post by: Javier on February 08, 2008, 11:50:53 AM
Obama has no history of "dirty" politics, so the conservatives don't have that much material to attack Obama on.  We all know Clinton's history.  Obama is seen as the guy that people disagree with but do not hate, Hilary is seen as the one people just hate. 

Well said, although I think we should keep in mind that we don't know what dirt will be dug up on Obama's past before November.  The Muslim rumors alone were fairly potent.

what were those rumours? like he's down with Farrakhan? he definitely has muslim ancestors, but that ain't no secret


A lot of people actually believe that Obama is a Muslim. 
Title: Re: Who has a better chance of beating McCain?
Post by: LooN3y on February 08, 2008, 05:17:00 PM
Obama has no history of "dirty" politics, so the conservatives don't have that much material to attack Obama on.  We all know Clinton's history.  Obama is seen as the guy that people disagree with but do not hate, Hilary is seen as the one people just hate. 


obama, huckabee, hilary, and rudy are on the top 10 corrupted politicians list on judicial watch
Title: Re: Who has a better chance of beating McCain?
Post by: Javier on February 08, 2008, 06:14:06 PM
Obama has no history of "dirty" politics, so the conservatives don't have that much material to attack Obama on.  We all know Clinton's history.  Obama is seen as the guy that people disagree with but do not hate, Hilary is seen as the one people just hate. 


obama, huckabee, hilary, and rudy are on the top 10 corrupted politicians list on judicial watch

I'm talking about a comparison in terms of Left vs Right politics. 
Title: Re: Who has a better chance of beating McCain?
Post by: Primo on February 08, 2008, 09:56:47 PM
McCain is a Bush with a worse temper and phychological problems. He also knows jack shit about economics. Funny how the media annoints people.
Title: Re: Who has a better chance of beating McCain?
Post by: Kill on February 09, 2008, 03:08:49 PM
Obama has no history of "dirty" politics, so the conservatives don't have that much material to attack Obama on.  We all know Clinton's history.  Obama is seen as the guy that people disagree with but do not hate, Hilary is seen as the one people just hate. 

Well said, although I think we should keep in mind that we don't know what dirt will be dug up on Obama's past before November.  The Muslim rumors alone were fairly potent.

what were those rumours? like he's down with Farrakhan? he definitely has muslim ancestors, but that ain't no secret


A lot of people actually believe that Obama is a Muslim. 

is there any real evidence to back up that claim?
Title: Re: Who has a better chance of beating McCain?
Post by: Javier on February 09, 2008, 03:18:01 PM
Obama has no history of "dirty" politics, so the conservatives don't have that much material to attack Obama on.  We all know Clinton's history.  Obama is seen as the guy that people disagree with but do not hate, Hilary is seen as the one people just hate. 

Well said, although I think we should keep in mind that we don't know what dirt will be dug up on Obama's past before November.  The Muslim rumors alone were fairly potent.

what were those rumours? like he's down with Farrakhan? he definitely has muslim ancestors, but that ain't no secret


A lot of people actually believe that Obama is a Muslim. 

is there any real evidence to back up that claim?

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20071205/D8TBIDE00.html
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WASHINGTON (AP) - A volunteer Iowa county coordinator for Hillary Rodham Clinton's presidential campaign has resigned after forwarding a chain e-mail that suggests Barack Obama is a Muslim who wants to destroy the United States by being elected to its highest office.

Any educated person knows that Obama isn't a Muslim, but the majority of the people voting don't even read up on the candidates.  If Karl Rove was running the campaign against the Democrats this election, oh snap, the word would get out there that Obama has actually killed a few Americans for Islam. 
Title: Re: Who has a better chance of beating McCain?
Post by: Trauma-san on February 12, 2008, 02:31:54 PM
Actually, John McCain has all the people Bush had running his campaigns working for him now. 

I'm fairly surprised at the number of people I meet that DO think that Barack is a muslim... and several still believe that "won't put his hand over his heart" thing about the national anthem, as well.  This one old man I know swears up and down "I SAW 'EM, all the candidates were lined up, every one of 'em put their hand over their heart and he wouldn't"  The guy actually remembers something that never really happened.

I still think he'll win.
Title: Re: Who has a better chance of beating McCain?
Post by: M Dogg™ on February 12, 2008, 02:43:02 PM
Actually, John McCain has all the people Bush had running his campaigns working for him now. 

I'm fairly surprised at the number of people I meet that DO think that Barack is a muslim... and several still believe that "won't put his hand over his heart" thing about the national anthem, as well.  This one old man I know swears up and down "I SAW 'EM, all the candidates were lined up, every one of 'em put their hand over their heart and he wouldn't"  The guy actually remembers something that never really happened.

I still think he'll win.

This guy will more than likely not vote for Obama anyways... like Obama said, anyone who comes with pre-judgment will more than likely not vote for him if he was white named John Smith anyways 'cause they wouldn't agree with his politics.
Title: Re: Who has a better chance of beating McCain?
Post by: J @ M @ L on February 12, 2008, 02:44:49 PM
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WASHINGTON (AP) - A volunteer Iowa county coordinator for Hillary Rodham Clinton's presidential campaign has resigned after forwarding a chain e-mail that suggests Barack Obama is a Muslim who wants to destroy the United States by being elected to its highest office.

Foday, you were supposed to keep that a secret.
Title: Re: Who has a better chance of beating McCain?
Post by: Narrator on February 12, 2008, 07:17:12 PM
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WASHINGTON (AP) - A volunteer Iowa county coordinator for Hillary Rodham Clinton's presidential campaign has resigned after forwarding a chain e-mail that suggests Barack Obama is a Muslim who wants to destroy the United States by being elected to its highest office.

Foday, you were supposed to keep that a secret.

Well, Obama isn't a Muslim, he's a Poor Righteous Teacher, like I am.  But, since those dumb Iowa hicks are too stupid to know the difference, that's just what the bitch put down in the chain e-mail.

It really doesn't matter, tho.  The revolution will come regardless.  It has to come; it is DESTINED to occur.