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Title: Whereabouts and Some Brief Reflections On Train Of Thought Posters Past, Present
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on December 07, 2005, 09:58:44 PM
Some miscelaneous thoughts, don't read to much into it.

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-Whatever happened to Owen?  Does Owen = Shallow?

-Tech is still the illest poster at this forum, Jamal is on the come up.

-What's up all these cats that post like once every two months and then disappear, to name a few...Siavash/DirtDogg/Flipdogg, Rodzilla/tha 7th, NowIKnow/Sccit, MDogg, and so on.

-What is up with all these newbies who come up in here with these really impassioned then disappear?

-When did the dude from Isreal IGeezy become so hateful?  I remember when he used to be a sensitive dude.  We made a song together over the computer a few years ago talking about peace in Palestine, and so on.  He's changed big time.

-One poster I don't miss at the forum... Englewood

-One poster I don't like at the forum but still want him to keep posting up in here... Trauma

-I still don't understand how this Real American/CWalker guy is any kind of hip-hop head with views so narrowly against non-whites.

-Kassem has been a positive addition to the forum.

-This forum has grown a lot since it's inception. 

-With as much as Overseer hates me he could have banned me a long time ago (he did once, briefly).  I give him props for having a great forum.

-Alot of people think Tech and Jamal are the ones that finally ran Englewood out of here, but really I think it was Ant who ate away at him so much he finally decayed.

-Don Rizzle is a solid poster, and brings life to discussions, even though I don't always agree with him.

-Antonio is my poster of the week.

.....I guess that's it for now, if I think of anymore I'll add later.  Peace.
Title: Re: Whereabouts and Some Brief Reflections On Train Of Thought Posters Past, Present
Post by: Don Rizzle on December 08, 2005, 05:14:28 AM
props seem like a fair assesment of posters. heres my thoughts

nowiknow only comes on here to blindly support all things jewish and is very childish

igeezy has been radicalised and brainwashed

allah's slave makes some good points but goes a bit over the top sometimes on the islam stuff sometimes which can lead to clouded judgement BUT everyones got their judgement clouded in some way too so it helps to provide a balence get a good debate going even if no can ever agree....

tech should chill on the insults he seems quite intelligent but lets himself down

trauma seems to have calmed down a bit and become a bit more reasonable

ant should change his name to michael moore

cwalker is confused, hes a rascist who loves hiphop and has probably never even tried to have a conversation with someone who isn't white in his life. hes nothing likes the poles i know who all seem very friendly and generous people who work their arses off

jome almost always comes on point

overseer confuses me hes a libdem supporter but his views can be quite conservitive

jamal makes some good points but like me i think hes given up on the debate with igeezy because it just goes round in circles

forknox typical french guy

mauzip should move to america

lincoln makes some good posts in a positive manner
Title: Re: Whereabouts and Some Brief Reflections On Train Of Thought Posters Past, Pre
Post by: 7even on December 08, 2005, 05:57:30 AM
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mauzip should move to america

agreed.
Title: Re: Whereabouts and Some Brief Reflections On Train Of Thought Posters Past, Pre
Post by: Lincoln on December 08, 2005, 06:12:34 AM

lincoln makes some good posts in a positive manner

Thanks man, I like reading your posts too.
Title: Re: Whereabouts and Some Brief Reflections On Train Of Thought Posters Past, Present
Post by: Don Seer on December 08, 2005, 06:26:50 AM
overseer confuses me hes a libdem supporter but his views can be quite conservative

and i hate the conservatives..

i suppose libdems are the closest to my way of thinking.. but they're too close to the "elbow patches & flares" brigage for my liking..

and infinite.. i dont hate you, you're just OTT with the pro-islam stuff sometimes.. in the same way that NIK may defend jews BUT.. he doesnt post OTT pro-jew propoganda or blindly defend jewish figures like you did that that mike tyson post and michael jackson (when there was talk of him being muslim). Your standards of judging people should have nothing to do with race or religion but you constantly appear to turn on your own race and roots and promote black muslims..

as for owen.. he deleted his own account after an argument with me and HHH and optical in this section about abortion. his anti-abortion AND anti-contraception stance had the 3 of us upset. in short. he got sonned.

Title: Re: Whereabouts and Some Brief Reflections On Train Of Thought Posters Past, Present
Post by: Trauma-san on December 08, 2005, 06:29:00 AM
Yeah, personally I think he's back.  You can smell a bitch a mile away. 
Title: Re: Whereabouts and Some Brief Reflections On Train Of Thought Posters Past, Present
Post by: Don Seer on December 08, 2005, 06:41:32 AM
Does Owen = Shallow?

no.. shallow has an american IP.. owen was english.. i think he'd be easy to spot.. he was very precocious

btw LOL again at supporting the only other 2 muslims here AND having removed Lincoln now he's strayed from islam. how do you feel about the one u hold with the highest praise is a self confessed drug dealer.. how does that hold up against your post against muslims selling alcohol?
Title: Re: Whereabouts and Some Brief Reflections On Train Of Thought Posters Past, Pre
Post by: Lincoln on December 08, 2005, 06:52:20 AM
Does Owen = Shallow?

no.. shallow has an american IP.. owen was english.. i think he'd be easy to spot.. he was very precocious

btw LOL again at supporting the only other 2 muslims here AND having removed Lincoln now he's strayed from islam. how do you feel about the one u hold with the highest praise is a self confessed drug dealer.. how does that hold up against your post against muslims selling alcohol?

I have to defend Infinite here, him and I have remained respectful and he's been fine with me in PMs. I've no problems with him and I assume vice-versa.
Title: Re: Whereabouts and Some Brief Reflections On Train Of Thought Posters Past, Present
Post by: Don Seer on December 08, 2005, 07:04:30 AM

i'm not saying he's slagged you off.. but i'm sure he would have included you in his list with tech and jamal were you still muslim.
Title: Re: Whereabouts and Some Brief Reflections On Train Of Thought Posters Past, Pre
Post by: Lincoln on December 08, 2005, 07:09:26 AM

i'm not saying he's slagged you off.. but i'm sure he would have included you in his list with tech and jamal were you still muslim.

True enough.
Title: Re: Whereabouts and Some Brief Reflections On Train Of Thought Posters Past, Present
Post by: Kassem on December 08, 2005, 08:07:13 AM

i'm not saying he's slagged you off.. but i'm sure he would have included you in his list with tech and jamal were you still muslim.

True enough.
am muslim i wasn't included
Title: Re: Whereabouts and Some Brief Reflections On Train Of Thought Posters Past, Present
Post by: Don Rizzle on December 08, 2005, 08:17:19 AM

i'm not saying he's slagged you off.. but i'm sure he would have included you in his list with tech and jamal were you still muslim.

True enough.
am muslim i wasn't included

-Kassem has been a positive addition to the forum.
Title: Re: Whereabouts and Some Brief Reflections On Train Of Thought Posters Past, Present
Post by: Kassem on December 08, 2005, 08:23:31 AM
i didn't see that i was just cryng for being excluded props allah slave
Title: Re: Whereabouts and Some Brief Reflections On Train Of Thought Posters Past, Present
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on December 08, 2005, 08:28:37 AM
-Whatever happened to Owen?  Does Owen = Shallow?
OWEN WAS A COOL CAT.AND YEAH, I SEE ALOT OF SIMILIARITIES BETWEEN SHALLOW AND OWEN.

-Tech is still the illest poster at this forum, Jamal is on the come up.
TECH=GOAT, JAMAL= THE ILLEST DOING IT NOW..

-What's up all these cats that post like once every two months and then disappear, to name a few...Siavash/DirtDogg/Flipdogg, Rodzilla/tha 7th, NowIKnow/Sccit, MDogg, and so on.
DONT KNOW WASSUP WITH EM, BUT I GOT LOVE FOR EVERY SINGLE ONE OF EM

-What is up with all these newbies who come up in here with these really impassioned then disappear?
CUZ THEY REALIZE IN ONE WEEK WHAT IT TOOK ME YEARS TO REALIZE.90% OF ALL PEOPLE ARE SHEEP, AND ALOT OF FOLKS- ESPECIALLY INTELLIGENT ONES-DONT HAVE THE PATIENCE TO BE SHEPPARDS

-When did the dude from Isreal IGeezy become so hateful?  I remember when he used to be a sensitive dude.  We made a song together over the computer a few years ago talking about peace in Palestine, and so on.  He's changed big time.
THIS WAR CRIMINAL? WHO CARES WHAT HIS ATTITUDE IS LIKE. HES ALWAYS BEEN A BRAINWASHED TOOL.

-One poster I don't miss at the forum... Englewood
FUKK THIS CHUMP

-One poster I don't like at the forum but still want him to keep posting up in here... Trauma
FUKK THIS CHUMP TOO.

-I still don't understand how this Real American/CWalker guy is any kind of hip-hop head with views so narrowly against non-whites.
CUZ HES A GIMMICK AND AN ALIAS. HES THAT WRESTLER WHO AINT GOT NO SKILL SO HE RELIES ON HIS GIMMICK. RED ROOSTER ASS POSTER. BASTIEN BOOGER ASS WIGGA.

-Kassem has been a positive addition to the forum.
AGREED. SO HAS NIBS,EIHTBALL, LAZARUS, ETC

-This forum has grown a lot since it's inception. 
AGREED.

-With as much as Overseer hates me he could have banned me a long time ago (he did once, briefly).  I give him props for having a great forum.
YES I GRUDGINGLY GOTTA GIVE HIM PROPS TOO. I THINK IVE COME CLOSE TO THE EDGE COUPLE TIMES. BUT HE AINT NEVER BANNED ME SO I CANT HATE....

-Alot of people think Tech and Jamal are the ones that finally ran Englewood out of here, but really I think it was Ant who ate away at him so much he finally decayed.
ME AND JAMAL COULDVE PUNKED THIS GUY TILL OUR FACES TURNED BLUE.AND HIS STUPID IGNORANT BRAINWASHED ASS WOULDNT HAVE FLINCHED. CUZ WE'RE BROWN FACED AFGHANS, AND HIS RACIST ASS DONT THINK TWICE ABOUT BROWN PEOPLE.IT TOOK A FELLOW SUBARBAN WHITE BOY TO GET TO HIS HEAD. ANYWAYS FUKK ENGLEBERT AND HIS GROUPIES....THEY QUITE NOWHAHAHAHA

-Don Rizzle is a solid poster, and brings life to discussions, even though I don't always agree with him.
YEAH HES ENTERTAINING

-Antonio is my poster of the week.
ANTONIO TO ME HAS SERVED NO PURPOSE.


Title: Re: Whereabouts and Some Brief Reflections On Train Of Thought Posters Past, Present
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on December 08, 2005, 10:20:41 AM


-What is up with all these newbies who come up in here with these really impassioned then disappear?
CUZ THEY REALIZE IN ONE WEEK WHAT IT TOOK ME YEARS TO REALIZE.90% OF ALL PEOPLE ARE SHEEP, AND ALOT OF FOLKS- ESPECIALLY INTELLIGENT ONES-DONT HAVE THE PATIENCE TO BE SHEPPARDS

^^^LOL...classic Tech quote.
Title: Re: Whereabouts and Some Brief Reflections On Train Of Thought Posters Past, Pre
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on December 08, 2005, 10:24:37 AM


I have to defend Infinite here, him and I have remained respectful and he's been fine with me in PMs. I've no problems with him and I assume vice-versa.

Word...  I was just speaking off the top of my head, I said I was going to add some more later.  I got love for Sikotic but I didn't mention him either.
Title: Re: Whereabouts and Some Brief Reflections On Train Of Thought Posters Past, Pre
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on December 08, 2005, 10:26:51 AM

i'm not saying he's slagged you off.. but i'm sure he would have included you in his list with tech and jamal were you still muslim.

True enough.

True enough.

On the real, Overseer is probably right, it's no mystery, I don't deny that I got love for all the Muslims at this forum.
Title: Re: Whereabouts and Some Brief Reflections On Train Of Thought Posters Past, Present
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on December 08, 2005, 10:29:51 AM

btw LOL again at supporting the only other 2 muslims here AND having removed Lincoln now he's strayed from islam. how do you feel about the one u hold with the highest praise is a self confessed drug dealer.. how does that hold up against your post against muslims selling alcohol?


I see you plottin Overseer, but I'm not about to let these cats come up in here and try to divide the Muslims or get me to talk some stuff against the other Muslims at the forum, if I had something I needed to say to them derogatory I'd probably do it with a private message or e-mail or something.  I'm very conscious of this.
Title: Re: Whereabouts and Some Brief Reflections On Train Of Thought Posters Past, Present
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on December 08, 2005, 10:44:12 AM
hell yeah being a fellow muslim means something

its one thing to dick ryde without consequence and its another to recognize the inherent connection one has with another individual


for example....shit, i wont even deny it.Infinite is  someone i aint NEVER met, but hes my boy for life. You ever anywhere near Ontario holla at me. u need a place to chill....toronto is open to u mayne

Title: Re: Whereabouts and Some Brief Reflections On Train Of Thought Posters Past, Present
Post by: Don Seer on December 08, 2005, 12:06:03 PM

yeah i understand that.. its just that unlike you dude rarely posts anything that hasn't got a muslim-twist to it.. whereas you'll post up in here... and shoot the breeze about random shit elsewhere..

if he just made posts as himself and not on some "and mighty allah/the koran says.. " its not about him being muslim.. it'd be just the same if it were christian on that tip.. only promoting christianity and saying "and the church/god/jesus/the bible says.. "...



-What is up with all these newbies who come up in here with these really impassioned then disappear?
CUZ THEY REALIZE IN ONE WEEK WHAT IT TOOK ME YEARS TO REALIZE.90% OF ALL PEOPLE ARE SHEEP, AND ALOT OF FOLKS- ESPECIALLY INTELLIGENT ONES-DONT HAVE THE PATIENCE TO BE SHEPPARDS

^^^LOL...classic Tech quote.

yeah i liked that one
Title: Re: Whereabouts and Some Brief Reflections On Train Of Thought Posters Past, Pre
Post by: Suga Foot on December 08, 2005, 12:16:29 PM
I gotta say even tho Infinite has some extreme views and ideas, this place wouldn't be the same without him.

I think Tech, Jamal, Trauma, and Englewood all bring stuff to the table too, and I don't always agree with them, It's always fun to read.  They're like the OG's of this board.

Rizzle and Lincoln keep this place alive.

There's a lot of crazy ass people on here too tho.
Title: Re: Whereabouts and Some Brief Reflections On Train Of Thought Posters Past, Pre
Post by: Lincoln on December 08, 2005, 12:42:54 PM
I gotta say even tho Infinite has some extreme views and ideas, this place wouldn't be the same without him.

I think Tech, Jamal, Trauma, and Englewood all bring stuff to the table too, and I don't always agree with them, It's always fun to read.  They're like the OG's of this board.

Rizzle and Lincoln keep this place alive.

There's a lot of crazy ass people on here too tho.

Lol, you're one of those crazy people ;D. You said you wanted another Liberal majority in our country! Lol.
Title: Re: Whereabouts and Some Brief Reflections On Train Of Thought Posters Past, Pre
Post by: Suga Foot on December 08, 2005, 03:53:44 PM
I gotta say even tho Infinite has some extreme views and ideas, this place wouldn't be the same without him.

I think Tech, Jamal, Trauma, and Englewood all bring stuff to the table too, and I don't always agree with them, It's always fun to read.  They're like the OG's of this board.

Rizzle and Lincoln keep this place alive.

There's a lot of crazy ass people on here too tho.

Lol, you're one of those crazy people ;D. You said you wanted another Liberal majority in our country! Lol.

lol I'm all over the place lately.  Harper has been quite impressive lately so he's slowly gaining my support back.  All in all tho, Federal gov't can only do so much, as long as James Moore gets in my riding I'm happy.
Title: Re: Whereabouts and Some Brief Reflections On Train Of Thought Posters Past, Pre
Post by: Lincoln on December 08, 2005, 03:59:03 PM
I gotta say even tho Infinite has some extreme views and ideas, this place wouldn't be the same without him.

I think Tech, Jamal, Trauma, and Englewood all bring stuff to the table too, and I don't always agree with them, It's always fun to read.  They're like the OG's of this board.

Rizzle and Lincoln keep this place alive.

There's a lot of crazy ass people on here too tho.

Lol, you're one of those crazy people ;D. You said you wanted another Liberal majority in our country! Lol.

lol I'm all over the place lately.  Harper has been quite impressive lately so he's slowly gaining my support back.  All in all tho, Federal gov't can only do so much, as long as James Moore gets in my riding I'm happy.

Harper's doing great thus far, definetly better than 2004.
Title: Re: Whereabouts and Some Brief Reflections On Train Of Thought Posters Past, Pre
Post by: J Bananas on December 08, 2005, 04:15:38 PM
I think we're forgetting J Bananas. The only poster here with no political affiliation, leaving me with ample opportunity to point out flaws in everyone's one sided heated arguments, thus making me a thorn in the side of fundamentalists who constantly spam TOT with other peoples articles.
Title: Re: Whereabouts and Some Brief Reflections On Train Of Thought Posters Past, Present
Post by: Real American on December 08, 2005, 06:02:20 PM


cwalker is confused, hes a rascist who loves hiphop and has probably never even tried to have a conversation with someone who isn't white in his life. hes nothing likes the poles i know who all seem very friendly and generous people who work their arses off


I don't care if you call me racist, but you crossed the line when you called me a Pole. I am 100% American, born and raised.
Title: Re: Whereabouts and Some Brief Reflections On Train Of Thought Posters Past, Present
Post by: Don Rizzle on December 08, 2005, 06:06:40 PM


cwalker is confused, hes a rascist who loves hiphop and has probably never even tried to have a conversation with someone who isn't white in his life. hes nothing likes the poles i know who all seem very friendly and generous people who work their arses off


I don't care if you call me racist, but you crossed the line when you called me a Pole. I am 100% American, born and raised.
what are u ashamed of ur roots?
Title: Re: Whereabouts and Some Brief Reflections On Train Of Thought Posters Past, Present
Post by: Real American on December 08, 2005, 06:09:56 PM

I don't care if you call me racist, but you crossed the line when you called me a Pole. I am 100% American, born and raised.
what are u ashamed of ur roots?
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What are you talking about? My roots are in Ohio. That is where I was born.

I have never been to Poland, I don't speak Polish, I don't know anything about Polish culture. I am not Polish.
Title: Re: Whereabouts and Some Brief Reflections On Train Of Thought Posters Past, Pre
Post by: Sikotic™ on December 08, 2005, 06:10:56 PM
Tech & Jamal = funniest posters in ToT by far. Probably the entire forum.
Title: Re: Whereabouts and Some Brief Reflections On Train Of Thought Posters Past, Pre
Post by: Real American on December 08, 2005, 06:14:16 PM
Tech & Jamal = funniest posters in ToT by far. Probably the entire forum.

Is Tech really that funny?
Title: Re: Whereabouts and Some Brief Reflections On Train Of Thought Posters Past, Pre
Post by: BizzyR.I.P. on December 08, 2005, 08:18:50 PM
Tech & Jamal = funniest posters in ToT by far. Probably the entire forum.

Is Tech really that funny?
Are you racist?


BTW the answer to both is yes.
Title: Re: Whereabouts and Some Brief Reflections On Train Of Thought Posters Past, Pre
Post by: Teddy Roosevelt on December 08, 2005, 08:26:05 PM
Tech & Jamal = funniest posters in ToT by far. Probably the entire forum.
Don't be modest Sik.
Title: Re: Whereabouts and Some Brief Reflections On Train Of Thought Posters Past, Pre
Post by: J Bananas on December 08, 2005, 08:30:12 PM
ok its getting a little gay in here
Title: Re: Whereabouts and Some Brief Reflections On Train Of Thought Posters Past, Present
Post by: Doggystylin on December 08, 2005, 10:30:26 PM
Just wanted to pop in here to say what up to all my people from yours truly, Siavash, appreciate the love and im out (until a thread worthy of my post)


oh yeah I remember a while back when I thought infinite was banned I actually made a thread supporting him and wanting him back, hes part of the history

and yes tech really is that funny, hes the same funny crazy ignorant afgan jackass that we've all grown to love, or hate
Title: Re: Whereabouts and Some Brief Reflections On Train Of Thought Posters Past, Pre
Post by: h cottie is bac-tive? on December 09, 2005, 12:04:39 AM
i'm muslim and didnt get a shout out  >:(

nah its cool i havent really been postin much but i like to visit the TOT and read up on some articles

i haven't really shaped a solid opinion yet, political, social, or any other kinds..i like to read all the posts, from Cwalker to Infinite so i could get it from both sides of the spectrum....i think Cwalker is a little messed up in the head and i think his parents would slap him if he ever told them he was ashamed of bein Polish but he's entitled to his fucked up opinions

Infinite's a cool guy, I wish i knew him personally i think i could learn a lot from him. Tech & Jamal also.

Seer's a cool cat for makin this all possible. big ups 2 him and the rest of dubCC i didn't mention..i still got a ways to go  :sshh:
Title: Re: Whereabouts and Some Brief Reflections On Train Of Thought Posters Past, Present
Post by: J @ M @ L on December 09, 2005, 04:35:38 AM


cwalker is confused, hes a rascist who loves hiphop and has probably never even tried to have a conversation with someone who isn't white in his life. hes nothing likes the poles i know who all seem very friendly and generous people who work their arses off


I don't care if you call me racist, but you crossed the line when you called me a Pole. I am 100% American, born and raised.

shut up you winerschnitzel.. you're as polack as they come.. the fact that you're dumb as a rock only further proves it

i agree though... i'd rather be called a racist than pole... that's some harsh shit... i'd hate to be polish like you.....  remember when u said somethin along the lines of "i cant watch porn with black guys cuz it makes me feel inferior".. u fucking faggot ass chump... don't hate the world for your small dick ..
Title: Re: Whereabouts and Some Brief Reflections On Train Of Thought Posters Past, Present
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on December 09, 2005, 05:48:30 AM

yeah i understand that.. its just that unlike you dude rarely posts anything that hasn't got a muslim-twist to it.. whereas you'll post up in here... and shoot the breeze about random shit elsewhere..

if he just made posts as himself and not on some "and mighty allah/the koran says.. " its not about him being muslim.. it'd be just the same if it were christian on that tip.. only promoting christianity and saying "and the church/god/jesus/the bible says.. "...


First you questioned my high regard for Tech by describing him as an unorthodox Muslim, and therefore suggesting that I shouldn't be down with him like I am.  That didn't work, so now your trying to label me as being too extreme and over the top, so as to isolate me from the rest of the Muslims at this forum.  This tactic won't work either.  Just face it, you don't like Muslims and your not going to be happy till we follow your way.

With all that being said, I still got mad respect for you as an administrator of this forum, you got the illest forum on the net.   But in speaking to you as just another poster at this forum, I'd hope that eventually you'll come to accept Muslims as they are.
Title: Re: Whereabouts and Some Brief Reflections On Train Of Thought Posters Past, Pre
Post by: TraceOneInfinite Flat Earther 96' on December 09, 2005, 05:52:01 AM
i'm muslim and didnt get a shout out  >:(

nah its cool i havent really been postin much but i like to visit the TOT and read up on some articles

i haven't really shaped a solid opinion yet, political, social, or any other kinds..i like to read all the posts, from Cwalker to Infinite so i could get it from both sides of the spectrum....i think Cwalker is a little messed up in the head and i think his parents would slap him if he ever told them he was ashamed of bein Polish but he's entitled to his fucked up opinions

Infinite's a cool guy, I wish i knew him personally i think i could learn a lot from him. Tech & Jamal also.

Seer's a cool cat for makin this all possible. big ups 2 him and the rest of dubCC i didn't mention..i still got a ways to go  :sshh:

Assalamulaikum and welcome to the forum.  Keep blessing the board, we could use you some more over here at the Train of Thought.  Salaaam-1-G-d.
Title: Re: Whereabouts and Some Brief Reflections On Train Of Thought Posters Past, Pre
Post by: King Tech Quadafi on December 10, 2005, 07:26:53 AM
I gotta say even tho Infinite has some extreme views and ideas, this place wouldn't be the same without him.

I think Tech, Jamal, Trauma, and Englewood all bring stuff to the table too, and I don't always agree with them, It's always fun to read.  They're like the OG's of this board.

Rizzle and Lincoln keep this place alive.

There's a lot of crazy ass people on here too tho.

You givin englebert too much credit....and Trauma is an OG and all...but he fell off worse than Prodigy