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Title: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: Cali Climate on August 17, 2009, 12:11:52 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/C0CmIRODuI4



VS



http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/lSWo-tk2Z6Q


Two heavyweight MC's: One maifoso, one emo...Who takes the cake ? ? ?
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: Jaydc555 on August 17, 2009, 12:33:59 AM
That aint even joeys best track...heres a better one..and why dont you use a raekwon song made in the last 5 years?LOL

http://www.youtube.com/v/EI-mKyepyEs&hl=en&fs
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: Cali Climate on August 17, 2009, 12:37:05 AM
why dont you use a raekwon song made in the last 5 years?LOL

yes, LOL indeed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/yuI1Nj58zec


Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: Jaydc555 on August 17, 2009, 12:54:18 AM
Thats what your putting up against dumb out?A 7 minute lyrical slaughter by budden verses a 45 second verse by raekwon where he talks about playing atari in a ferrari?
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: Cali Climate on August 17, 2009, 12:56:35 AM
Thats what your putting up against dumb out?A 7 minute lyrical slaughter by budden verses a 45 second verse by raekwon where he talks about playing atari in a ferrari?

All that's necessary my brother. If you need 7 minutes to display lyrical content you already lost.  :-\
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: Jaydc555 on August 17, 2009, 12:57:59 AM
Thats what your putting up against dumb out?A 7 minute lyrical slaughter by budden verses a 45 second verse by raekwon where he talks about playing atari in a ferrari?

All that's necessary my brother. If you need 7 minutes to display lyrical content you already lost.  :-\
It takes skills to go on for seven minutes straight.Any rapper can bust out 45 seconds of dopeness.You got your game twisted around.
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: Kool Beenz on August 17, 2009, 12:58:11 AM
wtf?

Raekwon hands down

but the crown for the best eastcoast rapper alive and active is NAS
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: Cali Climate on August 17, 2009, 01:06:12 AM
Thats what your putting up against dumb out?A 7 minute lyrical slaughter by budden verses a 45 second verse by raekwon where he talks about playing atari in a ferrari?

All that's necessary my brother. If you need 7 minutes to display lyrical content you already lost.  :-\
It takes skills to go on for seven minutes straight.

Really?



http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/K6aPpqDGtEk





Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: Jaydc555 on August 17, 2009, 01:09:18 AM
Sorry,I should say 7 minutes of actual good lines.That whole dumb out song is one big long quotable
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: StreetsAllSalute on August 17, 2009, 01:50:02 AM
why do all buddens fans act like anything pre-2002 dosent count or some shit...??rae still wrote it...you cant blame dude for not bein as hungry as he was...


dosent make buddens better...it means at this stage in his career hes the one with somethin to prove...unfortunately he thought it would be a better idea to try take a shortcut by dissing a vet rather than workin on creatin a dope catalogue of music
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: A1 on August 17, 2009, 02:50:56 AM
why do all buddens fans act like anything pre-2002 dosent count or some shit...??rae still wrote it...you cant blame dude for not bein as hungry as he was...


dosent make buddens better...it means at this stage in his career hes the one with somethin to prove...unfortunately he thought it would be a better idea to try take a shortcut by dissing a vet rather than workin on creatin a dope catalogue of music


Agree 100%
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: Paul on August 17, 2009, 03:03:02 AM
why do all buddens fans act like anything pre-2002 dosent count or some shit...??rae still wrote it...you cant blame dude for not bein as hungry as he was...




+1

Raekwon for me, 1 of the greatest imo
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: Jaydc555 on August 17, 2009, 03:36:28 AM
why do all buddens fans act like anything pre-2002 dosent count or some shit...??rae still wrote it...you cant blame dude for not bein as hungry as he was...


dosent make buddens better...it means at this stage in his career hes the one with somethin to prove...unfortunately he thought it would be a better idea to try take a shortcut by dissing a vet rather than workin on creatin a dope catalogue of music

What the fuck are you talking about?Post up a song of joe budden dissing any vets.All he said was he was better then method man.He didnt diss anyone.
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: Nutty on August 17, 2009, 03:39:20 AM
Raekwon hands down

loL@ emo.
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: dj Hurricane on August 17, 2009, 03:47:59 AM
On The Basis Of The 2 Songs Budden By Far

In Hip Hip History Has To Be Raekwon
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: StreetsAllSalute on August 17, 2009, 04:01:28 AM
why do all buddens fans act like anything pre-2002 dosent count or some shit...??rae still wrote it...you cant blame dude for not bein as hungry as he was...


dosent make buddens better...it means at this stage in his career hes the one with somethin to prove...unfortunately he thought it would be a better idea to try take a shortcut by dissing a vet rather than workin on creatin a dope catalogue of music

What the fuck are you talking about?Post up a song of joe budden dissing any vets.All he said was he was better then method man.He didnt diss anyone.


when talkin about the vibe bracket

"how are these guys relevant...in 2009"

or somethin to that effect...i only watched it once...so being called irelevant isnt a disrespect??...even when he squashed the beef the 1st time he was disrespectful...just the way dude is...i remember him bitchin about jay not pushin him properly...like hold on joey your moanin to/about a guy that got snubbed by every major label then pretty much strong armed and promoted himself into said position of power...and its his fault you cant sell units??

anyway that wasnt the main point of what i wrote...the 1st part was




Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: The Predator on August 17, 2009, 07:13:48 AM
Buddens can't see the author of the undisputed classic - 'Only Built For Cuban Lynx'.

''Niggas, yo they be foldin' like envelopes under pressure'' - Rae'
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on August 17, 2009, 07:21:16 AM
Wow.

What a bugging ass poll result...

This reminds me of Saigon vs Joe..
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: Booz on August 17, 2009, 07:39:37 AM
Chef was great but be real for a minute, he aint no fucking lyricist.
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: Chamillitary Click on August 17, 2009, 10:03:25 AM
Chef was great but be real for a minute, he aint no fucking lyricist.

agreed.

now Booz, i don't expect you to agree with this, so i don't want to act like i'm putting words in your mouth; but i would say Rae in his prime is only a level or two above 50 Cent in his prime, LYRICALLY.

50 on Get Rich or Die Tryin' is a level or two below anything Rae has LYRICALLY.

why do all buddens fans act like anything pre-2002 dosent count or some shit...??rae still wrote it...you cant blame dude for not bein as hungry as he was...


dosent make buddens better...it means at this stage in his career hes the one with somethin to prove...unfortunately he thought it would be a better idea to try take a shortcut by dissing a vet rather than workin on creatin a dope catalogue of music


LOLOL! WHEN DO YOU WANT TO MAKE AN APPOINTMENT TO SLAP THE HATER STAMP ON? :laugh:

pre-2002 doesn't count because if their is a beef it is today. i know if this "beef" goes to the mic & Joey beats him up (lyrically) you have your excuse already in your pocket to take out & be like "WELL, Rae is still the biggest name, he was the shit 15 years ago, BLAH BLAH BLAH".

it makes Budden better in 2009, which is all he ever tried to prove lol. but when it's all said in done & BIAS put to the side, Joe Budden might have the better overall career, with a catalogue of music.

i mean, Mood Muzik Series, Halfway House, Padded Room, Escape Route, *more CDS here* >>>>> Only Built For Cuban Linx &...umm...yeah? ;D

EDIT: i love how Joey is still getting that attention though; most threads made now are their to point out flaws in him.

i wouldn't be surprised if he sold 10 million records with Great Escape with all thise exposure on the web. 8)



Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: MediumL on August 17, 2009, 10:07:27 AM
I just feel what Rae says. He paints pictures and images that Joey cant for me.
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: NillerTheKid on August 17, 2009, 10:10:38 AM

it makes Budden better in 2009, which is all he ever tried to prove lol. but when it's all said in done & BIAS put to the side, Joe Budden might have the better overall career, with a catalogue of music.

i mean, Mood Muzik Series, Halfway House, Padded Room, Escape Route, *more CDS here* >>>>> Only Built For Cuban Linx &...umm...yeah? ;D

tried is the right word, he still hasn't done it.

red part: I'm starting to loose respect for you  ;) I understand you're a fan, but OB4CL is a certified classic, inspired most of this decade's NY rapscene, OB4CL>Joe Budden's career
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: MoodMuzik on August 17, 2009, 10:15:55 AM

it makes Budden better in 2009, which is all he ever tried to prove lol. but when it's all said in done & BIAS put to the side, Joe Budden might have the better overall career, with a catalogue of music.

i mean, Mood Muzik Series, Halfway House, Padded Room, Escape Route, *more CDS here* >>>>> Only Built For Cuban Linx &...umm...yeah? ;D

tried is the right word, he still hasn't done it.

red part: I'm starting to loose respect for you  ;) I understand you're a fan, but OB4CL is a certified classic, inspired most of this decade's NY rapscene, OB4CL>Joe Budden's career

http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=226877.0
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: Hatesrats™ on August 17, 2009, 10:21:20 AM
Raekwon.
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: Chamillitary Click on August 17, 2009, 10:22:13 AM
I just feel what Rae says. He paints pictures and images that Joey cant for me.

fair enough.

Joey is much more conceptual (*waits to hear that be debated too* ::)).

his rap can be confusing at times, his story telling is hard to follow & takes 5 or 6 listens to figure out what he's really saying.

i respect this post more than almost any post i've read on this subject in the last month lol.


it makes Budden better in 2009, which is all he ever tried to prove lol. but when it's all said in done & BIAS put to the side, Joe Budden might have the better overall career, with a catalogue of music.

i mean, Mood Muzik Series, Halfway House, Padded Room, Escape Route, *more CDS here* >>>>> Only Built For Cuban Linx &...umm...yeah? ;D

tried is the right word, he still hasn't done it.

red part: I'm starting to loose respect for you  ;) I understand you're a fan, but OB4CL is a certified classic, inspired most of this decade's NY rapscene, OB4CL>Joe Budden's career


lol, it's hard to succeed when you got a million Wu Tang fans giving biased opinons to shoot him down.

& i'm not debating that OB4CL isn't an undisputed classic, but look what your buddy said; "he went after dissing vets rather than creating a dope catalogue of music".

i would say Buddens catalogue at the moment is better than Rae's ONE classic lol.

not to even get into how i would say MOST people (other than this board) would call some of Joey's work already, "classic".

name me a better mixtape series than Mood Muzik & please don't name me one mixtape; then Halfway House & Escape Route though viewed upon as something less than an album, they both still have an album feel to them & both amazing & Padded Room, a disputed classic by MOST people online, other than this board.

all of which i would say that maybe 35% of this board has heard & yet the other 65% make an opinon on his music like they have heard each disc five or six times. :laugh:
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: MoodMuzik on August 17, 2009, 10:30:15 AM
I just feel what Rae says. He paints pictures and images that Joey cant for me.

fair enough.

Joey is much more conceptual (*waits to hear that be debated too* ::)).

his rap can be confusing at times, his story telling is hard to follow & takes 5 or 6 listens to figure out what he's really saying.

i respect this post more than almost any post i've read on this subject in the last month lol.


it makes Budden better in 2009, which is all he ever tried to prove lol. but when it's all said in done & BIAS put to the side, Joe Budden might have the better overall career, with a catalogue of music.

i mean, Mood Muzik Series, Halfway House, Padded Room, Escape Route, *more CDS here* >>>>> Only Built For Cuban Linx &...umm...yeah? ;D

tried is the right word, he still hasn't done it.

red part: I'm starting to loose respect for you  ;) I understand you're a fan, but OB4CL is a certified classic, inspired most of this decade's NY rapscene, OB4CL>Joe Budden's career


lol, it's hard to succeed when you got a million Wu Tang fans giving biased opinons to shoot him down.

& i'm not debating that OB4CL isn't an undisputed classic, but look what your buddy said; "he went after dissing vets rather than creating a dope catalogue of music".

i would say Buddens catalogue at the moment is better than Rae's ONE classic lol.

not to even get into how i would say MOST people (other than this board) would call some of Joey's work already, "classic".

name me a better mixtape series than Mood Muzik & please don't name me one mixtape; then Halfway House & Escape Route though viewed upon as something less than an album, they both still have an album feel to them & both amazing & Padded Room, a disputed classic by MOST people online, other than this board.

all of which i would say that maybe 35% of this board has heard & yet the other 65% make an opinon on his music like they have heard each disc five or six times. :laugh:
mood muzik 2 and 3>>>>>>>raekwons career
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: Hatesrats™ on August 17, 2009, 10:31:44 AM
mood muzik 2 and 3>>>>>>>raekwons career
:nawty:
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: StreetsAllSalute on August 17, 2009, 10:38:20 AM
Chef was great but be real for a minute, he aint no fucking lyricist.

agreed.

now Booz, i don't expect you to agree with this, so i don't want to act like i'm putting words in your mouth; but i would say Rae in his prime is only a level or two above 50 Cent in his prime, LYRICALLY.

50 on Get Rich or Die Tryin' is a level or two below anything Rae has LYRICALLY.

why do all buddens fans act like anything pre-2002 dosent count or some shit...??rae still wrote it...you cant blame dude for not bein as hungry as he was...


dosent make buddens better...it means at this stage in his career hes the one with somethin to prove...unfortunately he thought it would be a better idea to try take a shortcut by dissing a vet rather than workin on creatin a dope catalogue of music


LOLOL! WHEN DO YOU WANT TO MAKE AN APPOINTMENT TO SLAP THE HATER STAMP ON? :laugh:

pre-2002 doesn't count because if their is a beef it is today. i know if this "beef" goes to the mic & Joey beats him up (lyrically) you have your excuse already in your pocket to take out & be like "WELL, Rae is still the biggest name, he was the shit 15 years ago, BLAH BLAH BLAH".

it makes Budden better in 2009, which is all he ever tried to prove lol. but when it's all said in done & BIAS put to the side, Joe Budden might have the better overall career, with a catalogue of music.

i mean, Mood Muzik Series, Halfway House, Padded Room, Escape Route, *more CDS here* >>>>> Only Built For Cuban Linx &...umm...yeah? ;D

EDIT: i love how Joey is still getting that attention though; most threads made now are their to point out flaws in him.

i wouldn't be surprised if he sold 10 million records with Great Escape with all thise exposure on the web. 8)






dude chill...if you already have noticed i dont like buddens...why you suprised if i vote against him in a poll against a rapper that i do rate??...and this thread wasnt made by a buddens fan so there isnt a pre-2002 dis-claimer in the title it just reads -


raekwon vs buddens which imo raekwon>>buddens

i'd feel far more comfortable comparing buddens to fabulous...juelz santana...llyod banks because to me thats the level i place him at...that would be a decent discussion...


but aye if you really feel ive earned that "hater" tag...go peep how many joe-budden related posts youve made the past two weeks and see which "tag" youve been rockin for a while now


and i see no need for personal insults kid...its just a difference in musical opinion... :laugh:

Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: Chamillitary Click on August 17, 2009, 10:43:26 AM
^LOL, how do you say "i don't know if you noticed, but i don't like Buddens" & go on to give your opinon in every thread.

if it's always going to be bad, why waste your time? it's just looked over.

& for what you said about me, i assume you mean "groupie".

i've said it before, this is more on a battle for common sense than it is for Joe Budden; the things i've heard come out of this board the last month is out of this world lol.

people giving musical opinon on things they haven't even heard lmao.

you can take Rae's side in this beef, no problem their; but i am taking common senses side. :laugh:
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: Sofa_King_Awesome on August 17, 2009, 10:46:18 AM
Lmao @ emo rapper. Rae hands down                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           
 
Clay Aiken > Joe BuDDDenS
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: NillerTheKid on August 17, 2009, 10:51:13 AM

it makes Budden better in 2009, which is all he ever tried to prove lol. but when it's all said in done & BIAS put to the side, Joe Budden might have the better overall career, with a catalogue of music.

i mean, Mood Muzik Series, Halfway House, Padded Room, Escape Route, *more CDS here* >>>>> Only Built For Cuban Linx &...umm...yeah? ;D

tried is the right word, he still hasn't done it.

red part: I'm starting to loose respect for you  ;) I understand you're a fan, but OB4CL is a certified classic, inspired most of this decade's NY rapscene, OB4CL>Joe Budden's career

http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=226877.0
yeah, that's right, an album made in 1995 couldn't have been that good, being the blueprint to a whole city's rapscene  ::)
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: NillerTheKid on August 17, 2009, 10:54:11 AM

i would say Buddens catalogue at the moment is better than Rae's ONE classic lol.

name me a better mixtape series than Mood Muzik & please don't name me one mixtape; then Halfway House & Escape Route though viewed upon as something less than an album, they both still have an album feel to them & both amazing & Padded Room, a disputed classic by MOST people online, other than this board.

all of which i would say that maybe 35% of this board has heard & yet the other 65% make an opinon on his music like they have heard each disc five or six times. :laugh:
again: OB4CL > Joe Budden's career

YKWII is better than MM  :o
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: StreetsAllSalute on August 17, 2009, 10:55:23 AM
^LOL, how do you say "i don't know if you noticed, but i don't like Buddens" & go on to give your opinon in every thread.

if it's always going to be bad, why waste your time? it's just looked over.

& for what you said about me, i assume you mean "groupie".

i've said it before, this is more on a battle for common sense than it is for Joe Budden; the things i've heard come out of this board the last month is out of this world lol.

people giving musical opinon on things they haven't even heard lmao.

you can take Rae's side in this beef, no problem their; but i am taking common senses side. :laugh:

this thread isnt all about buddens though is it LOL

and garuntee ive skipped more buddens threads than ive posted in...look for one post on anything regardin buddens-escape route...

i might post on some slaughterhouse shit....cus ive always liked crooked and royce...and ortiz looks worth peeping

and believe youve posted as much dumb shit in this 2 week period as anyone but whatever 'common sense' you must be right ::)


just next time i post...remember its not for you...











Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: OchoCinco on August 17, 2009, 11:08:15 AM
Budden groupies are the saddest motherfuckers on the net.
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: wcsoldier on August 17, 2009, 11:09:35 AM
Y'all need to find better things to do than talking about this meaningless beef . seriously
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: Paul on August 17, 2009, 11:14:47 AM
mood muzik 2 and 3>>>>>>>raekwons career


Your a fuckin idiot dude, this doesnt even come down to opinions or common sense

Rae has contributed to 3 Certified hip hop classics, whereas Joe has disputed good albums never mind classics
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: wcsoldier on August 17, 2009, 11:16:46 AM
Budden groupies are the saddest motherfuckers on the net.

they are . this goes beyong any dickriding I've ever read on this forum and it means a LOT ... Joe Budden music is not great nor wack .. he's just another rapper among others ....
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: StreetsAllSalute on August 17, 2009, 11:18:44 AM
Budden groupies are the saddest motherfuckers on the net.

they are . this goes beyong any dickriding I've ever read on this forum and it means a LOT ... Joe Budden music is not great nor wack .. he's just another rapper among others ....


i dont know....it reminds me hella of around 2002 with cam'ron...not sure which is worse to be fair
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: Paul on August 17, 2009, 11:21:08 AM
Budden groupies are the saddest motherfuckers on the net.

they are . this goes beyong any dickriding I've ever read on this forum and it means a LOT ... Joe Budden music is not great nor wack .. he's just another rapper among others ....


i dont know....it reminds me hella of around 2002 with cam'ron...not sure which is worse to be fair


the Cam thing was a bit tounge in cheek, although his music is amazing

Cam>>>>Pac





 ;D
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: StreetsAllSalute on August 17, 2009, 11:25:02 AM
Budden groupies are the saddest motherfuckers on the net.

they are . this goes beyong any dickriding I've ever read on this forum and it means a LOT ... Joe Budden music is not great nor wack .. he's just another rapper among others ....


i dont know....it reminds me hella of around 2002 with cam'ron...not sure which is worse to be fair


the Cam thing was a bit tounge in cheek, although his music is amazing

Cam>>>>Pac





 ;D

lol ooooo i knew their was some reason for all of that haha


in which case this is definitely worse..i think they serious ;D
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: wcsoldier on August 17, 2009, 11:26:28 AM
Budden groupies are the saddest motherfuckers on the net.

they are . this goes beyong any dickriding I've ever read on this forum and it means a LOT ... Joe Budden music is not great nor wack .. he's just another rapper among others ....


i dont know....it reminds me hella of around 2002 with cam'ron...not sure which is worse to be fair

indeed , there are similarities between Dipset fans and Budden fans ... they decided to go on internet and spend their time telling everybody how great these rappers are and thought that the majority of people will end up believing them ... ala Weezy but from a fan perspective
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: ICHI THE KILLER on August 17, 2009, 11:37:17 AM
^LOL, how do you say "i don't know if you noticed, but i don't like Buddens" & go on to give your opinon in every thread.

if it's always going to be bad, why waste your time? it's just looked over.

& for what you said about me, i assume you mean "groupie".

i've said it before, this is more on a battle for common sense than it is for Joe Budden; the things i've heard come out of this board the last month is out of this world lol.

people giving musical opinon on things they haven't even heard lmao.

you can take Rae's side in this beef, no problem their; but i am taking common senses side. :laugh:

actually i listen all buddens productions (u said 5-6 times each fuck me if i ever listen any of his albums 5-6 times i would just cut my veins from boredom) and i prefer REa . buddens styles is so specific that he will never get Rea status doesn't matter how many MM series and albums he will release.he will only have internet fame and his small circle of fans

so

Rae>>>Budden
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: Chamillitary Click on August 17, 2009, 12:42:39 PM
^LOL, how do you say "i don't know if you noticed, but i don't like Buddens" & go on to give your opinon in every thread.

if it's always going to be bad, why waste your time? it's just looked over.

& for what you said about me, i assume you mean "groupie".

i've said it before, this is more on a battle for common sense than it is for Joe Budden; the things i've heard come out of this board the last month is out of this world lol.

people giving musical opinon on things they haven't even heard lmao.

you can take Rae's side in this beef, no problem their; but i am taking common senses side. :laugh:

this thread isnt all about buddens though is it LOL

and garuntee ive skipped more buddens threads than ive posted in...look for one post on anything regardin buddens-escape route...

i might post on some slaughterhouse shit....cus ive always liked crooked and royce...and ortiz looks worth peeping

and believe youve posted as much dumb shit in this 2 week period as anyone but whatever 'common sense' you must be right ::)


just next time i post...remember its not for you...













did you skip Escape Route threads because you haven't heard it?

so how can you formulate an opinon on it? how do you know how good it is or not? :stupid:
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: StreetsAllSalute on August 17, 2009, 12:48:18 PM
^LOL, how do you say "i don't know if you noticed, but i don't like Buddens" & go on to give your opinon in every thread.

if it's always going to be bad, why waste your time? it's just looked over.

& for what you said about me, i assume you mean "groupie".

i've said it before, this is more on a battle for common sense than it is for Joe Budden; the things i've heard come out of this board the last month is out of this world lol.

people giving musical opinon on things they haven't even heard lmao.

you can take Rae's side in this beef, no problem their; but i am taking common senses side. :laugh:

this thread isnt all about buddens though is it LOL

and garuntee ive skipped more buddens threads than ive posted in...look for one post on anything regardin buddens-escape route...

i might post on some slaughterhouse shit....cus ive always liked crooked and royce...and ortiz looks worth peeping

and believe youve posted as much dumb shit in this 2 week period as anyone but whatever 'common sense' you must be right ::)


just next time i post...remember its not for you...













did you skip Escape Route threads because you haven't heard it?

so how can you formulate an opinon on it? how do you know how good it is or not? :stupid:


ive heard enough...its hardly the first oppotunity to listen to him and formulate an opinion is it??...not like im going to get an unbiase opinion on the album from you in there am i??...LOL
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: Cali Climate on August 17, 2009, 12:48:53 PM
Budden groupies are the saddest motherfuckers on the net.

they are . this goes beyong any dickriding I've ever read on this forum and it means a LOT ... Joe Budden music is not great nor wack .. he's just another rapper among others ....


i dont know....it reminds me hella of around 2002 with cam'ron...not sure which is worse to be fair


the Cam thing was a bit tounge in cheek, although his music is amazing

Cam>>>>Pac


 ;D


Exactly, it was a beautiful situation that had so many dim wits on here pissed. They struggled so hard to explain how cam wasn't as good as their favorite rappers. Tongue in cheek humor is the best for disillusioned rap fans.
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: Chamillitary Click on August 17, 2009, 12:53:42 PM
^LOL, how do you say "i don't know if you noticed, but i don't like Buddens" & go on to give your opinon in every thread.

if it's always going to be bad, why waste your time? it's just looked over.

& for what you said about me, i assume you mean "groupie".

i've said it before, this is more on a battle for common sense than it is for Joe Budden; the things i've heard come out of this board the last month is out of this world lol.

people giving musical opinon on things they haven't even heard lmao.

you can take Rae's side in this beef, no problem their; but i am taking common senses side. :laugh:

this thread isnt all about buddens though is it LOL

and garuntee ive skipped more buddens threads than ive posted in...look for one post on anything regardin buddens-escape route...

i might post on some slaughterhouse shit....cus ive always liked crooked and royce...and ortiz looks worth peeping

and believe youve posted as much dumb shit in this 2 week period as anyone but whatever 'common sense' you must be right ::)


just next time i post...remember its not for you...













did you skip Escape Route threads because you haven't heard it?

so how can you formulate an opinon on it? how do you know how good it is or not? :stupid:


ive heard enough...its hardly the first oppotunity to listen to him and formulate an opinion is it??...not like im going to get an unbiase opinion on the album from you in there am i??...LOL

if it was bad you would lol.

but ask any Joe Budden fan, he has only progressed & gotten better since he started.

people are saying Escape Route is better than his OFFICIAL album Padded Room & i am on the fence with that, i might agree with that.

so if i'm a fan & he is getting better, why would i complain?

i mean the only complaints i hear from the haters is "he is boring, he has no charisma, he doesn't sell, he has no fans, he has bad mixing."

but when it comes down to the music, what he is saying; what people bitch about with all these mainstream dudes, he is lightyears ahead of them & people hate because they have the Wu pole deep down the throat.
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: StreetsAllSalute on August 17, 2009, 01:31:29 PM
^LOL, how do you say "i don't know if you noticed, but i don't like Buddens" & go on to give your opinon in every thread.

if it's always going to be bad, why waste your time? it's just looked over.

& for what you said about me, i assume you mean "groupie".

i've said it before, this is more on a battle for common sense than it is for Joe Budden; the things i've heard come out of this board the last month is out of this world lol.

people giving musical opinon on things they haven't even heard lmao.

you can take Rae's side in this beef, no problem their; but i am taking common senses side. :laugh:

this thread isnt all about buddens though is it LOL

and garuntee ive skipped more buddens threads than ive posted in...look for one post on anything regardin buddens-escape route...

i might post on some slaughterhouse shit....cus ive always liked crooked and royce...and ortiz looks worth peeping

and believe youve posted as much dumb shit in this 2 week period as anyone but whatever 'common sense' you must be right ::)


just next time i post...remember its not for you...













did you skip Escape Route threads because you haven't heard it?

so how can you formulate an opinon on it? how do you know how good it is or not? :stupid:


ive heard enough...its hardly the first oppotunity to listen to him and formulate an opinion is it??...not like im going to get an unbiase opinion on the album from you in there am i??...LOL

if it was bad you would lol.

but ask any Joe Budden fan, he has only progressed & gotten better since he started.

people are saying Escape Route is better than his OFFICIAL album Padded Room & i am on the fence with that, i might agree with that.

so if i'm a fan & he is getting better, why would i complain?

i mean the only complaints i hear from the haters is "he is boring, he has no charisma, he doesn't sell, he has no fans, he has bad mixing."

but when it comes down to the music, what he is saying; what people bitch about with all these mainstream dudes, he is lightyears ahead of them & people hate because they have the Wu pole deep down the throat.

wu-tang aint mainstream artists everyone bitches about


now please well leave this to a difference of opinion(and age i hope :-\ )

Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: Al Bundy on August 17, 2009, 02:58:41 PM
i mean, Mood Muzik Series, Halfway House, Padded Room, Escape Route, *more CDS here* >>>>> Only Built For Cuban Linx &...umm...yeah? ;D

this post almost made me (http://www.e-imagesite.com/Files2/12455719552464367843.jpg)

no emo/joe budden
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: D-Nice on August 17, 2009, 02:59:30 PM
i mean, Mood Muzik Series, Halfway House, Padded Room, Escape Route, *more CDS here* >>>>> Only Built For Cuban Linx &...umm...yeah? ;D

this post almost made me (http://www.e-imagesite.com/Files2/12455719552464367843.jpg)

no emo

GOD DAMN
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: Chamillitary Click on August 17, 2009, 03:01:35 PM
i mean, Mood Muzik Series, Halfway House, Padded Room, Escape Route, *more CDS here* >>>>> Only Built For Cuban Linx &...umm...yeah? ;D

this post almost made me (http://www.e-imagesite.com/Files2/12455719552464367843.jpg)

no emo

don't tell me those crap 30 song albums are good, c'mon now.

but LOL, that picture is HILARIOUS!
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: Al Bundy on August 17, 2009, 03:04:36 PM
i mean, Mood Muzik Series, Halfway House, Padded Room, Escape Route, *more CDS here* >>>>> Only Built For Cuban Linx &...umm...yeah? ;D

this post almost made me (http://www.e-imagesite.com/Files2/12455719552464367843.jpg)

no emo

don't tell me those crap 30 song albums are good, c'mon now.

but LOL, that picture is HILARIOUS!

30 song albums? which album(s) are you talking about?
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: Chamillitary Click on August 17, 2009, 03:09:27 PM
i mean, Mood Muzik Series, Halfway House, Padded Room, Escape Route, *more CDS here* >>>>> Only Built For Cuban Linx &...umm...yeah? ;D

this post almost made me (http://www.e-imagesite.com/Files2/12455719552464367843.jpg)

no emo

don't tell me those crap 30 song albums are good, c'mon now.

but LOL, that picture is HILARIOUS!

30 song albums? which album(s) are you talking about?

i was exaggerating, but they were just unnessearly 20+ songs, with fillers.

they weren't very good, shit compared to OB4CL, in my opinon.
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: SCREWFACE on August 17, 2009, 03:36:09 PM
so many joe budden fans comin with that dumbass IN 2009 bullshit. before joe said that it was never a part of your arguement. now your all comin with this only in the past 5 years counts bull. in 15 years joe aint gonna be as hot as he is now but that doesnt mean you would ignore what he already did. you really think hes gonna be nice late on his career? and if hes not nice does that mean the start of his career no longer counts?

folks need to take a listen to cuban linx again. oh and i guess you are forgetting all the classic wu verses across so many group and solo albums of other members. you really think joe is a better rapper? i actually like joe budden, i think he has nice lyrics but first of all he hasnt even come close to making a classic and secondly his voice is horrible. it can be very nasal and its totally monotone. he has two sounds, normal voice and then the same voice but shouting, its gets very boring to listen too. cadence is just poor.
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: SCREWFACE on August 17, 2009, 03:37:04 PM
i just wanna add that altho raekwon is in my sig im not really a huge fan of his, hes not in my top 20. i just think its a funny pic and rae cracks me up. hes like a nerd for weed.
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: Cali Climate on August 17, 2009, 03:39:46 PM
i mean, Mood Muzik Series, Halfway House, Padded Room, Escape Route, *more CDS here* >>>>> Only Built For Cuban Linx &...umm...yeah? ;D


Well, there goes a lot of credibility right there. Tell me, how was the MIMS album?
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: Jaydc555 on August 17, 2009, 06:39:46 PM
Raekwon has dropped three albums.Two of them were terrible and the other one could have just as easily been called ghostfaces album.
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: Chamillitary Click on August 17, 2009, 07:42:30 PM
Raekwon has dropped three albums.Two of them were terrible and the other one could have just as easily been called ghostfaces album.

that's what i'm saying, he has one classic & take away the fact he's in Wu Tang & he was apart of that, i would wonder some of your guys opinon on him then lol.

i mean, Mood Muzik Series, Halfway House, Padded Room, Escape Route, *more CDS here* >>>>> Only Built For Cuban Linx &...umm...yeah? ;D


Well, there goes a lot of credibility right there. Tell me, how was the MIMS album?


what happened to this whole preach of "opinion"? not anymore? lol.

i would like to tell you that it was bad based on the only song i've ever heard from him "This Is Why I'm Hot", i would assume it's bad.

but i don't want to make a false judgement on something i never heard. ;) :)
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: jeromechickenbone on August 17, 2009, 08:25:40 PM
wtf?

Raekwon hands down

but the crown for the best eastcoast rapper alive and active is NAS

yep
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: jeromechickenbone on August 17, 2009, 08:31:05 PM
i mean, Mood Muzik Series, Halfway House, Padded Room, Escape Route, *more CDS here* >>>>> Only Built For Cuban Linx &...umm...yeah? ;D

this post almost made me (http://www.e-imagesite.com/Files2/12455719552464367843.jpg)

no emo/joe budden

lol seriously.  Adios credibility.  Just delete your account.
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: Chamillitary Click on August 17, 2009, 08:39:06 PM
i mean, Mood Muzik Series, Halfway House, Padded Room, Escape Route, *more CDS here* >>>>> Only Built For Cuban Linx &...umm...yeah? ;D

this post almost made me (http://www.e-imagesite.com/Files2/12455719552464367843.jpg)

no emo/joe budden

lol seriously.  Adios credibility.  Just delete your account.

don't preach opinion ever again lol.

you're biased & a hater for Joey.

if i like his work, obviously i'm going to take his discography over one classic.

their is no way you can call Joe Budden lame & boring & still like the two other Rae albums besides OB4CL as much as OB4CL.

LOL! :laugh:
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: jeromechickenbone on August 17, 2009, 08:43:43 PM
And the Budden stans are really reaching.  Now the cutoff date was 5 years ago?  Who the fuck is making these rules? 

It's an absolutely ridiculous statement saying that you can't count anything before that.  first, even if you want to only count the last 5 years I'd still take Rae easily.  2nd, Budden isn't even remotely near Rae's class.  When Budden has a hand in several classic albums then he can be entered into the debate. But he hasn't even come close to that, which is why this whole thing is such a joke.   

And keep spouting off about how Rae is giving Joe free promo, lol.  Slaughterhouse only sold 25k so I don't think that arguement works.  Further, yes there are def more Budden topics right now than ever, ironically none of which are the effect of Joe doing something prolific on the mic.  It's because he ran his mouth like an idiot and got punched in the face, lol.

And that will be Budden's legacy.  The chance he had to do something dope like SH, he fucked it up.  He'll always be known for getting socked in the face and pump pump pump it up.
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: Chamillitary Click on August 17, 2009, 08:53:52 PM
And the Budden stans are really reaching.  Now the cutoff date was 5 years ago?  Who the fuck is making these rules? 

It's an absolutely ridiculous statement saying that you can't count anything before that.  first, even if you want to only count the last 5 years I'd still take Rae easily.  2nd, Budden isn't even remotely near Rae's class.  When Budden has a hand in several classic albums then he can be entered into the debate. But he hasn't even come close to that, which is why this whole thing is such a joke.   

And keep spouting off about how Rae is giving Joe free promo, lol.  Slaughterhouse only sold 25k so I don't think that arguement works.  Further, yes there are def more Budden topics right now than ever, ironically none of which are the effect of Joe doing something prolific on the mic.  It's because he ran his mouth like an idiot and got punched in the face, lol.

And that will be Budden's legacy.  The chance he had to do something dope like SH, he fucked it up.  He'll always be known for getting socked in the face and pump pump pump it up.

well he'll always be known for Pump It Up regardless, just like Rae will ONLY be remembered for Wu-Tang! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

don't give me that OB4CL, yeah it's a classic, but heard by maybe 50% of hip hop fans, today.

what rules are you talking about? actually, scratch that; what are you talking about at all? lmao

Monday, August 17th 2009; who is the better rapper? Joe Budden, you don't even have an arguement, you have to dig back in the crates for credible Raekwon lol.

& LOL SLAUGHTERHOUSE ONLY PUT OUT 25K ALBUMS! :laugh:

face it, you're a hater; you opinion is worthless, you might as well stop coming into threads; i don't know the purpose of you even wasting your time, you're certainly not convincing me with you're BIASED ass arguement lol.

LOL THE MOST @ "when Joe Budden hands in SEVERAL classic albums.

Rae was part of Wu-Tang, which would have been classic albums, group, impact, without him LOL & he has one classic to his name, relax! :laugh:
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: D-Nice on August 17, 2009, 09:00:06 PM
Ok this Rae Budden thing is going too far. Agree to disagree and keep it moving. They BOTH are dope MCs. They BOTH have put out great albums and will continue to do that. But Jrome you ain't gonna change Cham's opinion and Cham vice versa. Unless yall building up post counts lol.
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: jeromechickenbone on August 17, 2009, 09:01:26 PM
And the Budden stans are really reaching.  Now the cutoff date was 5 years ago?  Who the fuck is making these rules? 

It's an absolutely ridiculous statement saying that you can't count anything before that.  first, even if you want to only count the last 5 years I'd still take Rae easily.  2nd, Budden isn't even remotely near Rae's class.  When Budden has a hand in several classic albums then he can be entered into the debate. But he hasn't even come close to that, which is why this whole thing is such a joke.   

And keep spouting off about how Rae is giving Joe free promo, lol.  Slaughterhouse only sold 25k so I don't think that arguement works.  Further, yes there are def more Budden topics right now than ever, ironically none of which are the effect of Joe doing something prolific on the mic.  It's because he ran his mouth like an idiot and got punched in the face, lol.

And that will be Budden's legacy.  The chance he had to do something dope like SH, he fucked it up.  He'll always be known for getting socked in the face and pump pump pump it up.

well he'll always be known for Pump It Up regardless, just like Rae will ONLY be remembered for Wu-Tang! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

don't give me that OB4CL, yeah it's a classic, but heard by maybe 50% of hip hop fans, today.

what rules are you talking about? actually, scratch that; what are you talking about at all? lmao

Monday, August 17th 2009; who is the better rapper? Joe Budden, you don't even have an arguement, you have to dig back in the crates for credible Raekwon lol.

& LOL SLAUGHTERHOUSE ONLY PUT OUT 25K ALBUMS! :laugh:

face it, you're a hater; you opinion is worthless, you might as well stop coming into threads; i don't know the purpose of you even wasting your time, you're certainly not convincing me with you're BIASED ass arguement lol.

LOL THE MOST @ "when Joe Budden hands in SEVERAL classic albums.

Rae was part of Wu-Tang, which would have been classic albums, group, impact, without him LOL & he has one classic to his name, relax! :laugh:

lol at least you admit that budden will only remembered for pump it up.  close thread.

Rae has an undisputed solo classic, and had a significant role on other undisputed classics.  Those are facts.  When Joey can make the same claim then you can have a legit debate and not get laughed at.  

Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: Chamillitary Click on August 17, 2009, 09:09:47 PM
And the Budden stans are really reaching.  Now the cutoff date was 5 years ago?  Who the fuck is making these rules? 

It's an absolutely ridiculous statement saying that you can't count anything before that.  first, even if you want to only count the last 5 years I'd still take Rae easily.  2nd, Budden isn't even remotely near Rae's class.  When Budden has a hand in several classic albums then he can be entered into the debate. But he hasn't even come close to that, which is why this whole thing is such a joke.   

And keep spouting off about how Rae is giving Joe free promo, lol.  Slaughterhouse only sold 25k so I don't think that arguement works.  Further, yes there are def more Budden topics right now than ever, ironically none of which are the effect of Joe doing something prolific on the mic.  It's because he ran his mouth like an idiot and got punched in the face, lol.

And that will be Budden's legacy.  The chance he had to do something dope like SH, he fucked it up.  He'll always be known for getting socked in the face and pump pump pump it up.

well he'll always be known for Pump It Up regardless, just like Rae will ONLY be remembered for Wu-Tang! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

don't give me that OB4CL, yeah it's a classic, but heard by maybe 50% of hip hop fans, today.

what rules are you talking about? actually, scratch that; what are you talking about at all? lmao

Monday, August 17th 2009; who is the better rapper? Joe Budden, you don't even have an arguement, you have to dig back in the crates for credible Raekwon lol.

& LOL SLAUGHTERHOUSE ONLY PUT OUT 25K ALBUMS! :laugh:

face it, you're a hater; you opinion is worthless, you might as well stop coming into threads; i don't know the purpose of you even wasting your time, you're certainly not convincing me with you're BIASED ass arguement lol.

LOL THE MOST @ "when Joe Budden hands in SEVERAL classic albums.

Rae was part of Wu-Tang, which would have been classic albums, group, impact, without him LOL & he has one classic to his name, relax! :laugh:

lol at least you admit that budden will only remembered for pump it up.  close thread.

Rae has an undisputed solo classic, and had a significant role on other undisputed classics.  Those are facts.  When Joey can make the same claim then you can have a legit debate and not get laughed at.  



LOL, who in the last 6-7 years have had impact on rap like ANYONE from the 90's? minus mainstream rappers; like Wayne & T-Pain? :laugh:

it's not possible when real rap isn't even acknowledged anymore, but if the "he made such an impact" arguement is the only one you can hold; i feel good about this thread lol.

Ok this Rae Budden thing is going too far. Agree to disagree and keep it moving. They BOTH are dope MCs. They BOTH have put out great albums and will continue to do that. But Jrome you ain't gonna change Cham's opinion and Cham vice versa. Unless yall building up post counts lol.

i dig that, but somebody else comes in here with something stupid to say & i feel obligated to speak on it.
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: jeromechickenbone on August 17, 2009, 09:17:10 PM
i dig that, but somebody else comes in here with something stupid to say & i feel obligated to speak on it.

lol you've got like 1000 posts in these threads.  You feel obligated to speak on it regardless.
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: Chamillitary Click on August 17, 2009, 09:29:29 PM
i dig that, but somebody else comes in here with something stupid to say & i feel obligated to speak on it.

lol you've got like 1000 posts in these threads.  You feel obligated to speak on it regardless.

maybe, but it just so happens it's responding to people who openly admit they don't like Joe Budden, but feel their opinon is still valid. :laugh:

also, way to ignore my other post! :laugh:
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: D-Nice on August 17, 2009, 09:36:15 PM
Never mind. I can't front these posts are pure comedy. Proceed.  ;D
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: Chamillitary Click on August 17, 2009, 09:42:12 PM
Never mind. I can't front these posts are pure comedy. Proceed.  ;D

lmao. ;D
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: Fuck Your Existence on August 18, 2009, 12:41:22 AM
lol,this shit will never end. its always the same people posting in these threads with the same shit. both from opposite ends of the spectrum. i am disappointed there was only one Pump it up reference though  :-\
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: Booz on August 18, 2009, 12:44:10 AM
lol,this shit will never end. its always the same people posting in these threads with the same shit. both from opposite ends of the spectrum. i am disappointed there was only one Pump it up reference though  :-\
I'm sure Joe did that song just to convince himself that he can finally get it up because they invented penis pump.

There, your second reference.
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: StreetsAllSalute on August 18, 2009, 12:49:26 AM
i dig that, but somebody else comes in here with something stupid to say & i feel obligated to speak on it.

lol you've got like 1000 posts in these threads.  You feel obligated to speak on it regardless.

maybe, but it just so happens it's responding to people who openly admit they don't like Joe Budden, but feel their opinon is still valid. :laugh:

also, way to ignore my other post! :laugh:

how old are you cham?
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: Fuck Your Existence on August 18, 2009, 01:04:11 AM
lol,this shit will never end. its always the same people posting in these threads with the same shit. both from opposite ends of the spectrum. i am disappointed there was only one Pump it up reference though  :-\
I'm sure Joe did that song just to convince himself that he can finally get it up because they invented penis pump.

There, your second reference.
good look,little forced and without the anger that usually accompanies it but i appreciate the effort
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: A1 on August 18, 2009, 01:37:24 AM
^^^^^

lol

Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: A1 on August 18, 2009, 01:41:27 AM
And the Budden stans are really reaching.  Now the cutoff date was 5 years ago?  Who the fuck is making these rules? 

It's an absolutely ridiculous statement saying that you can't count anything before that.  first, even if you want to only count the last 5 years I'd still take Rae easily.  2nd, Budden isn't even remotely near Rae's class.  When Budden has a hand in several classic albums then he can be entered into the debate. But he hasn't even come close to that, which is why this whole thing is such a joke.   

And keep spouting off about how Rae is giving Joe free promo, lol.  Slaughterhouse only sold 25k so I don't think that arguement works.  Further, yes there are def more Budden topics right now than ever, ironically none of which are the effect of Joe doing something prolific on the mic.  It's because he ran his mouth like an idiot and got punched in the face, lol.

And that will be Budden's legacy.  The chance he had to do something dope like SH, he fucked it up.  He'll always be known for getting socked in the face and pump pump pump it up.

well he'll always be known for Pump It Up regardless, just like Rae will ONLY be remembered for Wu-Tang! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:don't give me that OB4CL, yeah it's a classic, but heard by maybe 50% of hip hop fans, today.

what rules are you talking about? actually, scratch that; what are you talking about at all? lmao

Monday, August 17th 2009; who is the better rapper? Joe Budden, you don't even have an arguement, you have to dig back in the crates for credible Raekwon lol.

& LOL SLAUGHTERHOUSE ONLY PUT OUT 25K ALBUMS! :laugh:

face it, you're a hater; you opinion is worthless, you might as well stop coming into threads; i don't know the purpose of you even wasting your time, you're certainly not convincing me with you're BIASED ass arguement lol.

LOL THE MOST @ "when Joe Budden hands in SEVERAL classic albums.

Rae was part of Wu-Tang, which would have been classic albums, group, impact, without him LOL & he has one classic to his name, relax! :laugh:

Cham i generally like you as a poster and respect the fact that you stick to your opinion no matter what. But to compare a mediocore track like pump it up to rae participating in one of the most influential and groundbreaking hip hop groups ever is to put it politely .....silly  ;) lol
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: NillerTheKid on August 18, 2009, 01:45:06 AM

well he'll always be known for Pump It Up regardless, just like Rae will ONLY be remembered for Wu-Tang! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

don't give me that OB4CL, yeah it's a classic, but heard by maybe 50% of hip hop fans, today.

cause every single hiphop fan knows Joe Budden's entire discography?  you're falling short of arguments  ;)
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: Kool Beenz on August 18, 2009, 02:26:28 AM
And the Budden stans are really reaching.  Now the cutoff date was 5 years ago?  Who the fuck is making these rules? 

It's an absolutely ridiculous statement saying that you can't count anything before that.  first, even if you want to only count the last 5 years I'd still take Rae easily.  2nd, Budden isn't even remotely near Rae's class.  When Budden has a hand in several classic albums then he can be entered into the debate. But he hasn't even come close to that, which is why this whole thing is such a joke.   

And keep spouting off about how Rae is giving Joe free promo, lol.  Slaughterhouse only sold 25k so I don't think that arguement works.  Further, yes there are def more Budden topics right now than ever, ironically none of which are the effect of Joe doing something prolific on the mic.  It's because he ran his mouth like an idiot and got punched in the face, lol.

And that will be Budden's legacy.  The chance he had to do something dope like SH, he fucked it up.  He'll always be known for getting socked in the face and pump pump pump it up.

well he'll always be known for Pump It Up regardless, just like Rae will ONLY be remembered for Wu-Tang! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

don't give me that OB4CL, yeah it's a classic, but heard by maybe 50% of hip hop fans, today.

what rules are you talking about? actually, scratch that; what are you talking about at all? lmao

Monday, August 17th 2009; who is the better rapper? Joe Budden, you don't even have an arguement, you have to dig back in the crates for credible Raekwon lol.

& LOL SLAUGHTERHOUSE ONLY PUT OUT 25K ALBUMS! :laugh:

face it, you're a hater; you opinion is worthless, you might as well stop coming into threads; i don't know the purpose of you even wasting your time, you're certainly not convincing me with you're BIASED ass arguement lol.

LOL THE MOST @ "when Joe Budden hands in SEVERAL classic albums.

Rae was part of Wu-Tang, which would have been classic albums, group, impact, without him LOL & he has one classic to his name, relax! :laugh:

only classic album Budden has now is Slaughterhouse

your should just change your name from Chamilitary Click to Joe Buddens Dick
i mean your the homie and all but damn i cant believe you think Joe is better then a legend like Rae
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on August 18, 2009, 03:16:22 AM
As a lyricist, Joe kills Rae.

In any other category though, you could argue either side accurately..

This poll was about lyrics, that's writing.

Start pasting lyrics, you'll see soon why Joe got it...
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: Paul on August 18, 2009, 04:43:03 AM


This poll was about lyrics, that's writing.



No1 stated that
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: Jaydc555 on August 18, 2009, 05:47:30 AM
20 of the 27 votes were by people who didnt even listen to the songs posted,and have probably never actually listened to joe budden.The other seven were people who would vote against joe budden even if the poll was joe budden vs soulja boy.Who care.Let them listen to raekwons extremely overrated ass.
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: StreetsAllSalute on August 18, 2009, 06:44:12 AM
20 of the 27 votes were by people who didnt even listen to the songs posted,and have probably never actually listened to joe budden.The other seven were people who would vote against joe budden even if the poll was joe budden vs soulja boy.Who care.Let them listen to raekwons extremely overrated ass.

ok we understand..its been made clear


we must listen to buddens entire discography at least seven times...and even in the event we do this and still dont see how he is "the greatest alive"...we are haters

and thank you for lettin us listen to raekwons "extremely overated ass " have fun listenin to whats-his-face
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: NillerTheKid on August 18, 2009, 07:55:42 AM
20 of the 27 votes were by people who didnt even listen to the songs posted,and have probably never actually listened to joe budden.The other seven were people who would vote against joe budden even if the poll was joe budden vs soulja boy.Who care.Let them listen to raekwons extremely overrated ass.

ok we understand..its been made clear


we must listen to buddens entire discography at least seven times...and even in the event we do this and still dont see how he is "the greatest alive"...we are haters

and thank you for lettin us listen to raekwons "extremely overated ass " have fun listenin to whats-his-face
+1, good post
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: Paul on August 18, 2009, 08:03:14 AM
20 of the 27 votes were by people who didnt even listen to the songs posted,and have probably never actually listened to joe budden.The other seven were people who would vote against joe budden even if the poll was joe budden vs soulja boy.Who care.Let them listen to raekwons extremely overrated ass.

ok we understand..its been made clear


we must listen to buddens entire discography at least seven times...and even in the event we do this and still dont see how he is "the greatest alive"...we are haters

and thank you for lettin us listen to raekwons "extremely overated ass " have fun listenin to whats-his-face
+1, good post
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: SCREWFACE on August 18, 2009, 09:57:04 AM
its personal opinion. you guys are out to prove that budden is better. well its not possible because thats your opinion! at least rae has a classic under his belt, which is one more than joe budden has. that is the only thing that hip-hop heads are gonna agree on. joe budden probably will make a classic (once he gets some decent production and mixing) but until then ill be waiting.

cuban linx 2 might even turn out to be another classic but i highly doubt that
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on August 18, 2009, 10:02:01 AM
its personal opinion. you guys are out to prove that budden is better. well its not possible because thats your opinion! at least rae has a classic under his belt, which is one more than joe budden has. that is the only thing that hip-hop heads are gonna agree on. joe budden probably will make a classic (once he gets some decent production and mixing) but until then ill be waiting.

cuban linx 2 might even turn out to be another classic but i highly doubt that



http://www.livemixtapes.com/mixtapes/10563/raekwon_cuban_revolution.html  dont say all that.  stop imagining and turn it up
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: Chamillitary Click on August 18, 2009, 11:00:44 AM
And the Budden stans are really reaching.  Now the cutoff date was 5 years ago?  Who the fuck is making these rules? 

It's an absolutely ridiculous statement saying that you can't count anything before that.  first, even if you want to only count the last 5 years I'd still take Rae easily.  2nd, Budden isn't even remotely near Rae's class.  When Budden has a hand in several classic albums then he can be entered into the debate. But he hasn't even come close to that, which is why this whole thing is such a joke.   

And keep spouting off about how Rae is giving Joe free promo, lol.  Slaughterhouse only sold 25k so I don't think that arguement works.  Further, yes there are def more Budden topics right now than ever, ironically none of which are the effect of Joe doing something prolific on the mic.  It's because he ran his mouth like an idiot and got punched in the face, lol.

And that will be Budden's legacy.  The chance he had to do something dope like SH, he fucked it up.  He'll always be known for getting socked in the face and pump pump pump it up.

well he'll always be known for Pump It Up regardless, just like Rae will ONLY be remembered for Wu-Tang! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:don't give me that OB4CL, yeah it's a classic, but heard by maybe 50% of hip hop fans, today.

what rules are you talking about? actually, scratch that; what are you talking about at all? lmao

Monday, August 17th 2009; who is the better rapper? Joe Budden, you don't even have an arguement, you have to dig back in the crates for credible Raekwon lol.

& LOL SLAUGHTERHOUSE ONLY PUT OUT 25K ALBUMS! :laugh:

face it, you're a hater; you opinion is worthless, you might as well stop coming into threads; i don't know the purpose of you even wasting your time, you're certainly not convincing me with you're BIASED ass arguement lol.

LOL THE MOST @ "when Joe Budden hands in SEVERAL classic albums.

Rae was part of Wu-Tang, which would have been classic albums, group, impact, without him LOL & he has one classic to his name, relax! :laugh:

Cham i generally like you as a poster and respect the fact that you stick to your opinion no matter what. But to compare a mediocore track like pump it up to rae participating in one of the most influential and groundbreaking hip hop groups ever is to put it politely .....silly  ;) lol

i can see the confusion with how i said that, but i didn't mean the two in comparision; it was more along the lines "yeah, Joey will be remembered for Pump It Up, but Rae is only relevant & considered the status he is today because of Wu; without Wu, he is nothing."

20 of the 27 votes were by people who didnt even listen to the songs posted,and have probably never actually listened to joe budden.The other seven were people who would vote against joe budden even if the poll was joe budden vs soulja boy.Who care.Let them listen to raekwons extremely overrated ass.

ok we understand..its been made clear


we must listen to buddens entire discography at least seven times...and even in the event we do this and still dont see how he is "the greatest alive"...we are haters

and thank you for lettin us listen to raekwons "extremely overated ass " have fun listenin to whats-his-face
+1, good post

lmao, how is that a good post at all? because it fights for your side of the arguement? :laugh:

what Jay said is true, most of you haven't heard any of his discography & the other voters, like he said, are going against Budden regardless the opponet.

Joe Budden can put out a modern day All Eyez On Me & it would receive as much hate as any other his other work, you guys are narrow minded, smh.

speaking of quotes like "ok we understand..its been made clear"; it's been made clear that a majority of this board is going against Joe Budden no matter the opponet, conversation, anything; it's against Joey, we get it; how many more threads like this have to be made & how many more posts have to be repeated until you guys have had enough? lol.
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: NillerTheKid on August 18, 2009, 12:43:04 PM
20 of the 27 votes were by people who didnt even listen to the songs posted,and have probably never actually listened to joe budden.The other seven were people who would vote against joe budden even if the poll was joe budden vs soulja boy.Who care.Let them listen to raekwons extremely overrated ass.

ok we understand..its been made clear


we must listen to buddens entire discography at least seven times...and even in the event we do this and still dont see how he is "the greatest alive"...we are haters

and thank you for lettin us listen to raekwons "extremely overated ass " have fun listenin to whats-his-face
+1, good post

lmao, how is that a good post at all? because it fights for your side of the arguement? :laugh:

what Jay said is true, most of you haven't heard any of his discography & the other voters, like he said, are going against Budden regardless the opponet.

Joe Budden can put out a modern day All Eyez On Me & it would receive as much hate as any other his other work, you guys are narrow minded, smh.

speaking of quotes like "ok we understand..its been made clear"; it's been made clear that a majority of this board is going against Joe Budden no matter the opponet, conversation, anything; it's against Joey, we get it; how many more threads like this have to be made & how many more posts have to be repeated until you guys have had enough? lol.
I heard MM1-3, PR, HH, how's that none of his discography? you just eem to have taken a stand, to defend Joey no matter who anyone puts up against him. when people argue with you, you keep pulling that "nobody truly has listen to him", even though most people commenting in this thread has heard most of his music
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: Makaveli's Food & Liquor on August 18, 2009, 02:01:49 PM
I've only read page 1 as i cba to read through all the bullshit of the other 2 pages but imo Joey's a better lyricist fair enough but Rae makes better music and OB4CL > any of Joe's mixtapes/street albums/retail albums. And again like i said in the Wu vs SH thread, u cant ignore all of Raes music pre-Budden because Joeys in his prime while Rae's time has come and gone tbf

These threads are so pointless, all that happens is the same thing which happens in every thread about Budden, everyone just dickrides and hates, only a few people are actually neutral but they get ignored ::)
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: Chamillitary Click on August 18, 2009, 03:24:42 PM
20 of the 27 votes were by people who didnt even listen to the songs posted,and have probably never actually listened to joe budden.The other seven were people who would vote against joe budden even if the poll was joe budden vs soulja boy.Who care.Let them listen to raekwons extremely overrated ass.

ok we understand..its been made clear


we must listen to buddens entire discography at least seven times...and even in the event we do this and still dont see how he is "the greatest alive"...we are haters

and thank you for lettin us listen to raekwons "extremely overated ass " have fun listenin to whats-his-face
+1, good post

lmao, how is that a good post at all? because it fights for your side of the arguement? :laugh:

what Jay said is true, most of you haven't heard any of his discography & the other voters, like he said, are going against Budden regardless the opponet.

Joe Budden can put out a modern day All Eyez On Me & it would receive as much hate as any other his other work, you guys are narrow minded, smh.

speaking of quotes like "ok we understand..its been made clear"; it's been made clear that a majority of this board is going against Joe Budden no matter the opponet, conversation, anything; it's against Joey, we get it; how many more threads like this have to be made & how many more posts have to be repeated until you guys have had enough? lol.
I heard MM1-3, PR, HH, how's that none of his discography? you just eem to have taken a stand, to defend Joey no matter who anyone puts up against him. when people argue with you, you keep pulling that "nobody truly has listen to him", even though most people commenting in this thread has heard most of his music

not true, they'll just tell you they "did".

EDIT: not true i always take Buddens side, i thought Saigon beat him in their beef...
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: S P I C E on August 18, 2009, 03:26:41 PM
No contest.  Raekwon is not in the same league as Jumpoff
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: ICHI THE KILLER on August 18, 2009, 05:21:43 PM
Quote
Joe Budden can put out a modern day All Eyez On Me

hahaha with all respect for u this is just:

(http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/9062/heeheeheeag1.gif)
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: Chamillitary Click on August 18, 2009, 05:27:16 PM
Quote
Joe Budden can put out a modern day All Eyez On Me

hahaha with all respect for u this is just:

(http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/9062/heeheeheeag1.gif)

way to take out everything i said after that lol.

Joe Budden can put out a modern day All Eyez On Me & it would receive as much hate as any other his other work, you guys are narrow minded, smh.

meaning "if"; i was being hypothetical.
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: ICHI THE KILLER on August 18, 2009, 05:45:17 PM
Quote
Joe Budden can put out a modern day All Eyez On Me

hahaha with all respect for u this is just:

(http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/9062/heeheeheeag1.gif)

way to take out everything i said after that lol.

Joe Budden can put out a modern day All Eyez On Me & it would receive as much hate as any other his other work, you guys are narrow minded, smh.

meaning "if"; i was being hypothetical.

i get what u wanted to say but this will never happened  :-\ i wish to budden put modern version of ALL EYEZ ON ME or LIFE AFTER DEATh but like i said before ;
Quote
buddens styles is very specific.he will only have internet fame and his small circle of fans
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: Chamillitary Click on August 18, 2009, 05:52:16 PM
Quote
Joe Budden can put out a modern day All Eyez On Me

hahaha with all respect for u this is just:

(http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/9062/heeheeheeag1.gif)

way to take out everything i said after that lol.

Joe Budden can put out a modern day All Eyez On Me & it would receive as much hate as any other his other work, you guys are narrow minded, smh.

meaning "if"; i was being hypothetical.

i get what u wanted to say but this will never happened  :-\ i wish to budden put modern version of ALL EYEZ ON ME or LIFE AFTER DEATh but like i said before ;
Quote
buddens styles is very specific.he will only have internet fame and his small circle of fans


that's fine with me, as long as he keeps pumpin' out that good shit i bump! 8)
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on August 18, 2009, 11:45:52 PM


This poll was about lyrics, that's writing.



No1 stated that

Goto the first post, LOL.
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: Cali Climate on August 19, 2009, 12:31:18 AM
Damn, some of these guys will just make up anything to defend joey. numbers dont lie, he's good but not that good.
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: StreetsAllSalute on August 19, 2009, 12:41:48 AM
Quote
what Jay said is true, most of you haven't heard any of his discography & the other voters, like he said, are going against Budden regardless the opponet.


*from here out i will be usin chams own logic to respond in the hope he will see how retarded he sounds*


well you obviously you havent listened to any raekwon otherwise their is no way you would not share my opinion ;D
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: Kool Beenz on August 19, 2009, 01:21:20 AM
I aint no budden hater... but i just think he is way overrated on this board and he is a good MC but not as what people make him seem to be

call me westcoast biased or whatever but Game destroyed him, same with saigon and method could too
he talks to fuckin' much and disrespects hip hop cus to call out Wu like that its like Chami calling out Scarface

dude has no respect and thats what it is... plus his albums and voice and delivery sucks IMO

but he killed it on slaughter house but thats cus he had some of the best MC's to compete with... thats where his respect comes from me
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: Fraxxx on August 19, 2009, 02:20:38 AM
Damn, some of these guys will just make up anything to defend joey. numbers dont lie, he's good but not that good.

Numbers don't lie? You mean sales? Fuck outta here, that's completely unrelated to quality. And you know that!  ;)
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: Cali Climate on August 19, 2009, 02:30:50 AM
Damn, some of these guys will just make up anything to defend joey. numbers dont lie, he's good but not that good.

Numbers don't lie? You mean sales? Fuck outta here, that's completely unrelated to quality. And you know that!  ;)

No, I don't mean sales. I mean this poll. Jack ass. Way to assume.
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: Elano on August 19, 2009, 02:45:24 AM
your should just change your name from Chamilitary Click to Joe Buddens Dick
LMAO. true  ;D
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: StreetsAllSalute on August 19, 2009, 02:47:22 AM
Damn, some of these guys will just make up anything to defend joey. numbers dont lie, he's good but not that good.

Numbers don't lie? You mean sales? Fuck outta here, that's completely unrelated to quality. And you know that!  ;)

No, I don't mean sales. I mean this poll. Jack ass. Way to assume.

yeah bananas but none of us 32 have ever heard joe buddens and are just hatin...whereas the 15 ppl that have voted for buddens are grand scholars of the art of hip hop and their word is law


or havent you been payin attention ;D
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: Fraxxx on August 19, 2009, 03:02:47 AM
Damn, some of these guys will just make up anything to defend joey. numbers dont lie, he's good but not that good.

Numbers don't lie? You mean sales? Fuck outta here, that's completely unrelated to quality. And you know that!  ;)

No, I don't mean sales. I mean this poll. Jack ass. Way to assume.

Shit, that was obvious. :D I should pay attention even if it's only online "conversation" lol.
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: UKnowWhatItIs: welcome to my traps....game over on August 19, 2009, 04:13:24 AM
Raekwon's first solo album is considered one of the best hip-hop albums ever, is apart one of the best hip-hop groups, guest featured on countless classics, been on top etc. & Joe Budden has done what?? There's ya answer.
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: Chamillitary Click on August 19, 2009, 09:42:53 AM
Damn, some of these guys will just make up anything to defend joey. numbers dont lie, he's good but not that good.

Numbers don't lie? You mean sales? Fuck outta here, that's completely unrelated to quality. And you know that!  ;)

No, I don't mean sales. I mean this poll. Jack ass. Way to assume.

yeah bananas but none of us 32 have ever heard joe buddens and are just hatin...whereas the 15 ppl that have voted for buddens are grand scholars of the art of hip hop and their word is law


or havent you been payin attention ;D

i would say 16 of you have, 16 of you haven't.

those are beyond realistic numbers. :laugh:

EDIT: the funniest part of all of this is that i'm less biased than any of you & i'm a borderline stan LOL.

coincidence the same people are in every single Joe Budden thread talking shit about him? yeah, sure lol.

check my posts on Budden vs. Saigon, i had Saigon's back that whole episode; i pick a side & defend it, i picked Joeys side over the bandwagon choice of a "legend".
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: SCREWFACE on August 19, 2009, 03:41:53 PM
everyone just dickrides and hates, only a few people are actually neutral but they get ignored ::)
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on August 19, 2009, 05:32:59 PM
damn i gotta listen to that entire joey song
he went in on that shit
raekwon was dope and he still is but damn joey is dope
ive been sleepin
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: Jaydc555 on August 19, 2009, 06:03:54 PM
Heres my problem with you people.You cant look at anything objectively.You confuse your own dislike with joe budden with his talent.Just because YOU dont like him doesnt make him wack.For example,I for whatever reason have never liked redman.I just dont like his voice.I cant explain why but his voice just doesnt appeal to me.But do I go around calling him wack and saying everyone is better then him?No I dont.I know hes talented and I know hes better then most rappers.I just dont like him.That doesnt take away from him being a great lyricist.You people for whatever reason lack the ability to differeniate between your own taste and talent.This thread is about whos a better lyricist.Not whos been on classic albums.And to break that down,if you take raekwon off wu tang,that album is a classic anyway.And his only good solo album of the three hes released might as well have been categorized as a duo album considering ghostface as just as many solo tracks on the album as raekwon.Besides that fact,it doesnt make him a good lyricist that hes been on classic albums.For example,Snoop dogg has a classic album and a large discography while crooked I has no albums.But is snoop a better lyricist then crook?Not a fucking chance.Joe Budden is a vastly superior lyrcist to rae,if you cant see that your an idiot.And before someone says oh thats nihilist behaviour,grow the fuck up.If someones favorite movie is date movie and he claims its better then citizen kane,does that make him right?No it means hes a fucking idiot.Thats the shoe you people put on yourselves by voting for raekwon in this poll.
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: you gon always be my latin queen bitch on August 19, 2009, 06:14:08 PM
real talk jay and i agree with what your sayin
joey on his
venom crazy go in the booth and bite muffuccaz headz off type flow>>>>raekwon

but again rae can spit but in this day and age looks like joey will eat you up and thats all he was sayin wit that vibe bracket shit....so for rae to get mad at the truth and send people
one thing was to handle it man to man but damn

1.he cant outrap him...if he can he needs to prove it
2.he sends people


but yeha alotta muffuccaz get this whole thing of whos best or whos better twisted
i used to

Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: Action! on August 19, 2009, 08:39:01 PM
Heres my problem with you people.You cant look at anything objectively.You confuse your own dislike with joe budden with his talent.Just because YOU dont like him doesnt make him wack.For example,I for whatever reason have never liked redman.I just dont like his voice.I cant explain why but his voice just doesnt appeal to me.But do I go around calling him wack and saying everyone is better then him?No I dont.I know hes talented and I know hes better then most rappers.I just dont like him.That doesnt take away from him being a great lyricist.You people for whatever reason lack the ability to differeniate between your own taste and talent.This thread is about whos a better lyricist.Not whos been on classic albums.And to break that down,if you take raekwon off wu tang,that album is a classic anyway.And his only good solo album of the three hes released might as well have been categorized as a duo album considering ghostface as just as many solo tracks on the album as raekwon.Besides that fact,it doesnt make him a good lyricist that hes been on classic albums.For example,Snoop dogg has a classic album and a large discography while crooked I has no albums.But is snoop a better lyricist then crook?Not a fucking chance.Joe Budden is a vastly superior lyrcist to rae,if you cant see that your an idiot.And before someone says oh thats nihilist behaviour,grow the fuck up.If someones favorite movie is date movie and he claims its better then citizen kane,does that make him right?No it means hes a fucking idiot.Thats the shoe you people put on yourselves by voting for raekwon in this poll.

I just inhaled truth.  Keep schooling these fools on what's real.
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: NillerTheKid on August 19, 2009, 10:19:29 PM
Heres my problem with you people.You cant look at anything objectively.You confuse your own dislike with joe budden with his talent.Just because YOU dont like him doesnt make him wack.For example,I for whatever reason have never liked redman.I just dont like his voice.I cant explain why but his voice just doesnt appeal to me.But do I go around calling him wack and saying everyone is better then him?No I dont.I know hes talented and I know hes better then most rappers.I just dont like him.That doesnt take away from him being a great lyricist.You people for whatever reason lack the ability to differeniate between your own taste and talent.This thread is about whos a better lyricist.Not whos been on classic albums.And to break that down,if you take raekwon off wu tang,that album is a classic anyway.And his only good solo album of the three hes released might as well have been categorized as a duo album considering ghostface as just as many solo tracks on the album as raekwon.Besides that fact,it doesnt make him a good lyricist that hes been on classic albums.For example,Snoop dogg has a classic album and a large discography while crooked I has no albums.But is snoop a better lyricist then crook?Not a fucking chance.Joe Budden is a vastly superior lyrcist to rae,if you cant see that your an idiot.And before someone says oh thats nihilist behaviour,grow the fuck up.If someones favorite movie is date movie and he claims its better then citizen kane,does that make him right?No it means hes a fucking idiot.Thats the shoe you people put on yourselves by voting for raekwon in this poll.
double standards? just because you like Joe Budden more than Raekwon, doesn't make Joey a better lyricist. being a lyricist is more than put fancy words together
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: Action! on August 19, 2009, 10:22:47 PM
Heres my problem with you people.You cant look at anything objectively.You confuse your own dislike with joe budden with his talent.Just because YOU dont like him doesnt make him wack.For example,I for whatever reason have never liked redman.I just dont like his voice.I cant explain why but his voice just doesnt appeal to me.But do I go around calling him wack and saying everyone is better then him?No I dont.I know hes talented and I know hes better then most rappers.I just dont like him.That doesnt take away from him being a great lyricist.You people for whatever reason lack the ability to differeniate between your own taste and talent.This thread is about whos a better lyricist.Not whos been on classic albums.And to break that down,if you take raekwon off wu tang,that album is a classic anyway.And his only good solo album of the three hes released might as well have been categorized as a duo album considering ghostface as just as many solo tracks on the album as raekwon.Besides that fact,it doesnt make him a good lyricist that hes been on classic albums.For example,Snoop dogg has a classic album and a large discography while crooked I has no albums.But is snoop a better lyricist then crook?Not a fucking chance.Joe Budden is a vastly superior lyrcist to rae,if you cant see that your an idiot.And before someone says oh thats nihilist behaviour,grow the fuck up.If someones favorite movie is date movie and he claims its better then citizen kane,does that make him right?No it means hes a fucking idiot.Thats the shoe you people put on yourselves by voting for raekwon in this poll.
double standards? just because you like Joe Budden more than Raekwon, doesn't make Joey a better lyricist. being a lyricist is more than put fancy words together

another inhalement of truth

so many wise words from aight folks

aight aight aight

they both dope

let's leave it at that

since raekwon didn't drop a diss and budden did throw shots out at the crew, is it fair to say who won?

Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: SCREWFACE on August 20, 2009, 03:07:40 AM
Heres my problem with you people.You cant look at anything objectively.You confuse your own dislike with joe budden with his talent.Just because YOU dont like him doesnt make him wack.For example,I for whatever reason have never liked redman.I just dont like his voice.I cant explain why but his voice just doesnt appeal to me.But do I go around calling him wack and saying everyone is better then him?No I dont.I know hes talented and I know hes better then most rappers.I just dont like him.That doesnt take away from him being a great lyricist.You people for whatever reason lack the ability to differeniate between your own taste and talent.This thread is about whos a better lyricist.Not whos been on classic albums.And to break that down,if you take raekwon off wu tang,that album is a classic anyway.And his only good solo album of the three hes released might as well have been categorized as a duo album considering ghostface as just as many solo tracks on the album as raekwon.Besides that fact,it doesnt make him a good lyricist that hes been on classic albums.For example,Snoop dogg has a classic album and a large discography while crooked I has no albums.But is snoop a better lyricist then crook?Not a fucking chance.Joe Budden is a vastly superior lyrcist to rae,if you cant see that your an idiot.And before someone says oh thats nihilist behaviour,grow the fuck up.If someones favorite movie is date movie and he claims its better then citizen kane,does that make him right?No it means hes a fucking idiot.Thats the shoe you people put on yourselves by voting for raekwon in this poll.

lookit this guy trying to prove hes right  ::)

 id rather be an idiot than try and PROVE objectively that one is better than the other. its not a fucking science man, u cant prove it with tests and evidence... its your opinion. you just come off as very close minded by saying that anyone else who has a different opinion is an idiot. i hate joe buddens voice but ive listened to all his shit and i think hes a great lyricist, i just think raekwon is better. im not HATING i honestly do think that rae is better and i've got a lot of respect for joe budden.
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: Jaydc555 on August 20, 2009, 06:03:24 PM
Heres my problem with you people.You cant look at anything objectively.You confuse your own dislike with joe budden with his talent.Just because YOU dont like him doesnt make him wack.For example,I for whatever reason have never liked redman.I just dont like his voice.I cant explain why but his voice just doesnt appeal to me.But do I go around calling him wack and saying everyone is better then him?No I dont.I know hes talented and I know hes better then most rappers.I just dont like him.That doesnt take away from him being a great lyricist.You people for whatever reason lack the ability to differeniate between your own taste and talent.This thread is about whos a better lyricist.Not whos been on classic albums.And to break that down,if you take raekwon off wu tang,that album is a classic anyway.And his only good solo album of the three hes released might as well have been categorized as a duo album considering ghostface as just as many solo tracks on the album as raekwon.Besides that fact,it doesnt make him a good lyricist that hes been on classic albums.For example,Snoop dogg has a classic album and a large discography while crooked I has no albums.But is snoop a better lyricist then crook?Not a fucking chance.Joe Budden is a vastly superior lyrcist to rae,if you cant see that your an idiot.And before someone says oh thats nihilist behaviour,grow the fuck up.If someones favorite movie is date movie and he claims its better then citizen kane,does that make him right?No it means hes a fucking idiot.Thats the shoe you people put on yourselves by voting for raekwon in this poll.
double standards? just because you like Joe Budden more than Raekwon, doesn't make Joey a better lyricist. being a lyricist is more than put fancy words together
Your right it is more then that.Joey is a great story teller,listen to three sides to a story or in my sleep or frieght train,he can make deep emotional tracks like whatever it takes,anti,good enough,he can make all out lyrical songs like dumb out etc etc.Hes very well rounded.Im a fan of raekwon but he has no depth what so ever he always rhymes about the same shit.Listen to tracks like exxxes by joe budden or angel in my life,and show me one song thats as deep by raekwon.You cant.
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: Elano on August 20, 2009, 08:35:54 PM
Jaydc
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AGAIN
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: Elano on August 20, 2009, 08:39:40 PM
Listen to tracks like exxxes by joe budden or angel in my life,and show me one song thats as deep by raekwon.You cant.
LMFAO
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: Jaydc555 on August 20, 2009, 08:42:15 PM
Listen to tracks like exxxes by joe budden or angel in my life,and show me one song thats as deep by raekwon.You cant.
LMFAO
Way to contribute to a discussion you fucking tool.
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: Elano on August 20, 2009, 08:46:13 PM
Listen to tracks like exxxes by joe budden or angel in my life,and show me one song thats as deep by raekwon.You cant.
LMFAO
Way to contribute to a discussion you fucking tool.

its the only reply that a post like that deserves,you dumb fucker
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: Chamillitary Click on August 20, 2009, 10:56:16 PM
Listen to tracks like exxxes by joe budden or angel in my life,and show me one song thats as deep by raekwon.You cant.
LMFAO
Way to contribute to a discussion you fucking tool.

its the only reply that a post like that deserves,you dumb fucker

coinsidence that EVERY post made on this board "only deserves this reply"? :laugh:
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: Elano on August 20, 2009, 11:13:00 PM
Listen to tracks like exxxes by joe budden or angel in my life,and show me one song thats as deep by raekwon.You cant.
LMFAO
Way to contribute to a discussion you fucking tool.

its the only reply that a post like that deserves,you dumb fucker

coinsidence that EVERY post made on this board "only deserves this reply"? :laugh:

of course you've missed TONS of my posts  :P
Title: Re: Raekwon vs. Joe Budden
Post by: NillerTheKid on August 21, 2009, 05:11:03 AM
Heres my problem with you people.You cant look at anything objectively.You confuse your own dislike with joe budden with his talent.Just because YOU dont like him doesnt make him wack.For example,I for whatever reason have never liked redman.I just dont like his voice.I cant explain why but his voice just doesnt appeal to me.But do I go around calling him wack and saying everyone is better then him?No I dont.I know hes talented and I know hes better then most rappers.I just dont like him.That doesnt take away from him being a great lyricist.You people for whatever reason lack the ability to differeniate between your own taste and talent.This thread is about whos a better lyricist.Not whos been on classic albums.And to break that down,if you take raekwon off wu tang,that album is a classic anyway.And his only good solo album of the three hes released might as well have been categorized as a duo album considering ghostface as just as many solo tracks on the album as raekwon.Besides that fact,it doesnt make him a good lyricist that hes been on classic albums.For example,Snoop dogg has a classic album and a large discography while crooked I has no albums.But is snoop a better lyricist then crook?Not a fucking chance.Joe Budden is a vastly superior lyrcist to rae,if you cant see that your an idiot.And before someone says oh thats nihilist behaviour,grow the fuck up.If someones favorite movie is date movie and he claims its better then citizen kane,does that make him right?No it means hes a fucking idiot.Thats the shoe you people put on yourselves by voting for raekwon in this poll.
double standards? just because you like Joe Budden more than Raekwon, doesn't make Joey a better lyricist. being a lyricist is more than put fancy words together
Your right it is more then that.Joey is a great story teller,listen to three sides to a story or in my sleep or frieght train,he can make deep emotional tracks like whatever it takes,anti,good enough,he can make all out lyrical songs like dumb out etc etc.Hes very well rounded.Im a fan of raekwon but he has no depth what so ever he always rhymes about the same shit.Listen to tracks like exxxes by joe budden or angel in my life,and show me one song thats as deep by raekwon.You cant.
you're a fan of Raekwon, but don't know any song where he's emotional? listen to more of his material then