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DUBCC - Tha Connection => Outbound Connection => Topic started by: BiggBoogaBiff on December 01, 2008, 10:38:24 PM

Title: Do You Agree With Me, Seriously?
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on December 01, 2008, 10:38:24 PM
Now to start this off DJ Premier inspired me to make this topic.  Now I know everyone has their own opinion but some things are just straight up facts.  I don't want to come across as a hater because alot do hate on talented new comers for no valid reason or any reason that would possibly give me a more open outlook then what I already see.  So here it is:


OverRated Producers: People who agree that these are the "best" just because it sounds like the right thing to say.  when their thoughts are based on bias.

DJ Premier - Couldn't last no more than 5 minutes in a studio with Quik or Timbaland or Andre 3000 or Diddy or Scarface or better yet probably ANYBODY in heres favorite musician, hip hop or instrumentalist. I would LOVE to elaborate on this.         
DJ Muggs
Cool & Dre - They have some hot shit but they have a cardboard sound
Daz - Hasn't really produced anything good since 01'/02' - if you can think of more than 20 bangers he's dropped since then out of all the albums he's dropped that's noteworthy please feel free to tell me.  And I'm not basing my bias off of what he did on DeathRow.  I've just never heard anything with any actual replay-replay value.
Erotic D

OverRated Rappers:
Kurupt - he's gettin back at it tho
Lady of Rage = face it, the bitch is a one hit wonder
T.I. - Good marketing but average quality in music, especially now.  most shit afta UL is weak/average
ODB - RIP but seriously though, just bcuz the nigga could talk like a drunk ass fool and still be half on beat doesn't classify as greatness.  Or maybe I just needed to hear him over different beats???
Biggie - His 4 year legacy should be put to rest now.  Take it or leave it, there's more rappers flowing off the top of their head then you actually think.
The Clipse - They my boys from my State but truthfully them niggas is average
Chamillionare - Still tryin to find out why he's so popular just bcuz he is a "clean cut" rapper
Ya Boy - Has too many more years to grow b4 he can actually be sellable, unless he just gets a Dr. Dre beat----- truthfully speaking/ and with Dre helping on the song
Consequence - i guess...     that's all i can think of when i hear him spit
Willie D - Loved GB as a whole but 'Face carried that group by himself and everbody knows it
Murs - whats so hot about him.  what makes him anymore unique than any other average "night club" MC?
Royce Da 5'9 - lets live in reality here people.

Underserving:

Shorty Lo


More Deserving:

Soulja Boy - he came outta middle skool into the big leagues by himself, u gotta love that.  the YOUNG BLACK AMERICAN DREAM
Lil' Wayne - too many internet bloggers posting bullshit that they know is FAR from the truth.  Lyrically Wayne crushes Biggie- stop lying to yourself.  Faggot or no Faggot Wayne treats the mic like a punk ass faggot... real talk.



UnderRated Producers:

can't think of any which in it'sself is depressing


UnderRated Rappers:

Plies - if u listen to his albums then you would already know Dude is the truth.  i think its mainly critism b4 ppl actually hear it.  Pre-hate... and eCrackers
Six 2 - mainstream wise
Pimp C - he was 1 of the greatest
Lil' Boosie - lissen to his albums and mixtapes and you would know what I'm talking about.  Webbie's last album had horrible production.
Glasses Malone - mainsteam wise
Snoop Dogg - he's a legend and he's bigger than the Doggy Dogg Snoop Dogg all of us hardcore hardcore rap supporters want to give him credit for.  Snoop not doin' what he did on Ego Trippin' would've been a bad career move.  Ego Trippin' is the shit, hands down.  Nowadays I can only find myself playing 4 or 5 (if that) tracks from Doggystyle and that whole era.  I can't remember the last time that whole DeathRow era still sounded fresh to me.  All Eyez On Me and Makaveli but that's it.
DJ Quik - what more can i say?
... and more TRUER artist (like a MJG).  carbon copies are cool if they're original (like Snoop is to Too Short) or (Rick Ross is to Biggie)


The South helped keep Hip Hop alive just as much as the East put it on and the West changed the face of the game.  Face it your favorite rappers, favortite rapper is somebody from the South.  The tune that's in your head b4 u go 2 sleep is probably southern influenced.  Face it you love the South.  I guess it's just overseasmen who dont appreciate the game and understand the game and aren't as hip to the culture and lifestyle and therapy that this game has to offer....



.... I'm Out



this isnt gspot worthy, this is better than that.
Title: Re: OverRated.UnderRated Producers/Rappers
Post by: K.Dub on December 01, 2008, 10:42:58 PM
Lol
Title: Re: OverRated.UnderRated Producers/Rappers
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on December 01, 2008, 10:47:56 PM
Lol


its the truth tho
Title: Re: Do You Agree With Me, Seriously?
Post by: Booz on December 01, 2008, 11:05:20 PM
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DJ Premier - Couldn't last no more than 5 minutes in a studio with Quik or Timbaland or Andre 3000 or Diddy or Scarface or better yet probably ANYBODY in heres favorite musician, hip hop or instrumentalist. I would LOVE to elaborate on this.

What the fuck? P.Diddy? You fucking joking? Premier can cook up an actually good songs instead of club rap. How can you disrespect Biggie & Premier and give props to Weezie Bean and Plies anyways?  ::)
Title: Re: Do You Agree With Me, Seriously?
Post by: ωεεźγ ғ on December 01, 2008, 11:11:58 PM
No i don't agree with you seriously, the only thing shawty lo and soulja boy deserve is a bitch slap from me and Biggie's jockstrap>>>>>>>Wayne's post Carter II annoying ass voice and music.
Title: Re: Do You Agree With Me, Seriously?
Post by: 2euce 7even on December 01, 2008, 11:14:29 PM
 :-\
Title: Re: Do You Agree With Me, Seriously?
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on December 01, 2008, 11:17:42 PM
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DJ Premier - Couldn't last no more than 5 minutes in a studio with Quik or Timbaland or Andre 3000 or Diddy or Scarface or better yet probably ANYBODY in heres favorite musician, hip hop or instrumentalist. I would LOVE to elaborate on this.

What the fuck? P.Diddy? You fucking joking? Premier can cook up an actually good songs instead of club rap. How can you disrespect Biggie & Premier and give props to Weezie Bean and Plies anyways?  ::)

all Premo can do is the SAME hip hop track over and over again... he's like TPain with the AutoTune.  And Diddy has produced more Hits (Rap, rnb, pop) than premo can eva accomplish, you forgot who produced Ready To Die (and the original version).  i used to be a deathrow ass fuck a diddy nigga too until i grew up.  and stopped the ignorance, rap isnt a football rivalry.  niggaz in the hood dont b agreein witcha'll lol
Title: Re: Do You Agree With Me, Seriously?
Post by: hellrazor86 on December 01, 2008, 11:29:38 PM
you being serious?

you just crushed hip hop..
Title: Re: Do You Agree With Me, Seriously?
Post by: Booz on December 01, 2008, 11:37:30 PM
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DJ Premier - Couldn't last no more than 5 minutes in a studio with Quik or Timbaland or Andre 3000 or Diddy or Scarface or better yet probably ANYBODY in heres favorite musician, hip hop or instrumentalist. I would LOVE to elaborate on this.

What the fuck? P.Diddy? You fucking joking? Premier can cook up an actually good songs instead of club rap. How can you disrespect Biggie & Premier and give props to Weezie Bean and Plies anyways?  ::)
all Premo can do is the SAME hip hop track over and over again... he's like TPain with the AutoTune.  you forgot who produced Ready To Die (and the original version). 
You comparing Premier to T-Pain...now that's just cruel.
Besides Diddy had maybe 1 track that he did by himself. He was the executive producer.
Title: Re: Do You Agree With Me, Seriously?
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on December 01, 2008, 11:48:26 PM
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DJ Premier - Couldn't last no more than 5 minutes in a studio with Quik or Timbaland or Andre 3000 or Diddy or Scarface or better yet probably ANYBODY in heres favorite musician, hip hop or instrumentalist. I would LOVE to elaborate on this.

What the fuck? P.Diddy? You fucking joking? Premier can cook up an actually good songs instead of club rap. How can you disrespect Biggie & Premier and give props to Weezie Bean and Plies anyways?  ::)
all Premo can do is the SAME hip hop track over and over again... he's like TPain with the AutoTune.  you forgot who produced Ready To Die (and the original version). 
You comparing Premier to T-Pain...now that's just cruel.
Besides Diddy had maybe 1 track that he did by himself. He was the executive producer.

lol at the TPain line but its true, you cant SHOW me anything different. Diddy does more than just say "oh thats hot". put some time in at a real studio with all and any types of artists/labels, and you'll know they ALL chip in.  every George Clinton had a Parliment and every Kurt Kobain had a Nirvana


and i didnt crush HipHop.  i just crushed these bullshit ass myths ppl are always obsessing about.  im tired of seein 1 minded views and always hearin the non-supporters bash my culture and everything it has to offer. its Fox News all over again, just only for hiphop
Title: Re: Do You Agree With Me, Seriously?
Post by: Muhfukka on December 02, 2008, 12:17:18 AM
you like plies and lil boosie no i do  not agree with you
Title: Re: Do You Agree With Me, Seriously?
Post by: Lucifuge on December 02, 2008, 12:44:17 AM
PREMO  is boring,he's in the game like 15 or more years and he never change nothing,same drums,samo kik sam snare sam bass same hats. fuck that like Lil Jon and thats down south producers
Title: Re: Do You Agree With Me, Seriously?
Post by: Rickdeeznutz on December 02, 2008, 01:02:30 AM
i hope this is a joke.....Diddy better producer than Premo? You crazy, And Soulja Boy More deserving? You smoking crack? Soulja boy dosent deserve nothing but a dick in his mouth
Title: Re: Do You Agree With Me, Seriously?
Post by: Birdie on December 02, 2008, 01:28:19 AM
Lol at this shitty thread.
Title: Re: Do You Agree With Me, Seriously?
Post by: Ali Tha Great on December 02, 2008, 02:15:29 AM
And Soulja Boy More deserving? You smoking crack? Soulja boy dosent deserve nothing but a dick in his mouth
Title: Re: Do You Agree With Me, Seriously?
Post by: stillinrehab on December 02, 2008, 02:21:30 AM
I do live in reality Royce is the man 8)
Title: Re: Do You Agree With Me, Seriously?
Post by: Dre-Day on December 02, 2008, 02:48:42 AM
LOL! how is Erotic D overrated when a lot of people haven't even heard his work?  :D
Title: Re: Do You Agree With Me, Seriously?
Post by: The-Leak (aka) kingwell (bka) JULES on December 02, 2008, 02:59:45 AM
UnderRated Producers:

can't think of any which in it'sself is depressing




CUZ NO ONE LISTS CREDITS FOR JOINTS UNLESS ITS A KNOWN PRODUCER, WHICH IS SAD.
Title: Re: Do You Agree With Me, Seriously?
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on December 02, 2008, 06:35:24 AM
And Soulja Boy More deserving? You smoking crack? Soulja boy dosent deserve nothing but a dick in his mouth

thats so gay when u use that twice and especially when you highlight it,  that sounds suspect.  and by your statement that means u think KrissKross is 1million times better/  Like I've said b4 there's nothing you can PROVE as  why he isn't a young ARTIST.  he writes and produces his own music which is extremely catchy - even old white folx bump his shit.  Now personally I've never owned or have thought about purchasing an album but that lil' nigga right there deserves all tha props... most of us can only dream of doin' what he did... uless u dont do it 4 hip hop- u kno
Title: Re: Do You Agree With Me, Seriously?
Post by: Birdie on December 02, 2008, 06:48:04 AM
thats so gay when u use that twice and especially when you highlight it,  that sounds suspect.  and by your statement that means u think KrissKross is 1million times better/  Like I've said b4 there's nothing you can PROVE as  why he isn't a young ARTIST.  he writes and produces his own music which is extremely catchy - even old white folx bump his shit.  Now personally I've never owned or have thought about purchasing an album but that lil' nigga right there deserves all tha props... most of us can only dream of doin' what he did... uless u dont do it 4 hip hop- u kno

Umm... This dude raps over his own music too. Since he turned 17.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScpQm1n-vkA

That's a person who I call THE ARTIST. And don't protect yaself that you wrote him down in underrated. How can I understand you really feel Quik's shit, when you praise Soulja Boy.
Title: Re: Do You Agree With Me, Seriously?
Post by: K.Dub on December 02, 2008, 06:54:28 AM
Sucks to be you, Biff.
Title: Re: Do You Agree With Me, Seriously?
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on December 02, 2008, 07:05:21 AM
thats so gay when u use that twice and especially when you highlight it,  that sounds suspect.  and by your statement that means u think KrissKross is 1million times better/  Like I've said b4 there's nothing you can PROVE as  why he isn't a young ARTIST.  he writes and produces his own music which is extremely catchy - even old white folx bump his shit.  Now personally I've never owned or have thought about purchasing an album but that lil' nigga right there deserves all tha props... most of us can only dream of doin' what he did... uless u dont do it 4 hip hop- u kno

Umm... This dude raps over his own music too. Since he turned 17.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScpQm1n-vkA

That's a person who I call THE ARTIST. And don't protect yaself that you wrote him down in underrated. How can I understand you really feel Quik's shit, when you praise Soulja Boy.

bcuz im not bias for 1 and 2 older artist used it first.  everybodies been usin that shit, even Snoop on DeathRow.



And besides I dont know about ya'll but I listen to all music.  I couldn't listen to throwback raps everyday all day for the rest of my life. I have to hear some other shit.  Hip Hop is always and forever will be my soul music, I don't know about ya'll- fuck anybody who don't agree if they write a reply disagreeing on that
Title: Re: Do You Agree With Me, Seriously?
Post by: Birdie on December 02, 2008, 07:23:46 AM
You can find plenty of better today's rappers than Soulja Boy.
Title: Re: Do You Agree With Me, Seriously?
Post by: penenstamp on December 02, 2008, 07:39:35 AM
Is BiggBoogaBiff an alias?
Title: Re: Do You Agree With Me, Seriously?
Post by: UKnowWhatItIs: welcome to my traps....game over on December 02, 2008, 08:08:58 AM
Lol at this shitty thread.
Title: Re: Do You Agree With Me, Seriously?
Post by: hellrazor86 on December 02, 2008, 09:14:14 AM

This thread ain´t going no where.... so lets move on to;

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Title: Re: Do You Agree With Me, Seriously?
Post by: CHUCK KNOXXX on December 02, 2008, 10:13:28 AM
funny how chad vader stole this thread, and actually made it better (no disrespect to the thread starter, he's intitled to his opinion reguardless of how rediculous it may be)
Title: Re: Do You Agree With Me, Seriously?
Post by: Þŕiņçë on December 02, 2008, 10:15:44 AM
More Deserving:

Soulja Boy - he came outta middle skool into the big leagues by himself, u gotta love that.  the YOUNG BLACK AMERICAN DREAM
Lil' Wayne - too many internet bloggers posting bullshit that they know is FAR from the truth.  Lyrically Wayne crushes Biggie- stop lying to yourself.  Faggot or no Faggot Wayne treats the mic like a punk ass faggot... real talk.

Dude you are basically the reason why a lot of hip hop sucks. I hope no one agrees with you.
Title: Re: Do You Agree With Me, Seriously?
Post by: NotoriousTDA on December 02, 2008, 10:26:25 AM
someone ban this faggot
Title: Re: Do You Agree With Me, Seriously?
Post by: Lunatic on December 02, 2008, 10:36:44 AM

DJ Premier - Couldn't last no more than 5 minutes in a studio with Quik or Timbaland or Andre 3000 or Diddy or Scarface or better yet probably ANYBODY in heres favorite musician, hip hop or instrumentalist. I would LOVE to elaborate on this.         
DJ Muggs
Cool & Dre - They have some hot shit but they have a cardboard sound
Daz - Hasn't really produced anything good since 01'/02' - if you can think of more than 20 bangers he's dropped since then out of all the albums he's dropped that's noteworthy please feel free to tell me.  And I'm not basing my bias off of what he did on DeathRow.  I've just never heard anything with any actual replay-replay value.
Erotic D

OverRated Rappers:
Kurupt - he's gettin back at it tho
Lady of Rage = face it, the bitch is a one hit wonder
T.I. - Good marketing but average quality in music, especially now.  most shit afta UL is weak/average
ODB - RIP but seriously though, just bcuz the nigga could talk like a drunk ass fool and still be half on beat doesn't classify as greatness.  Or maybe I just needed to hear him over different beats???
Biggie - His 4 year legacy should be put to rest now.  Take it or leave it, there's more rappers flowing off the top of their head then you actually think.
The Clipse - They my boys from my State but truthfully them niggas is average
Chamillionare - Still tryin to find out why he's so popular just bcuz he is a "clean cut" rapper
Ya Boy - Has too many more years to grow b4 he can actually be sellable, unless he just gets a Dr. Dre beat----- truthfully speaking/ and with Dre helping on the song
Consequence - i guess...     that's all i can think of when i hear him spit
Willie D - Loved GB as a whole but 'Face carried that group by himself and everbody knows it
Murs - whats so hot about him.  what makes him anymore unique than any other average "night club" MC?
Royce Da 5'9 - lets live in reality here people.

Underserving:

Shorty Lo


More Deserving:

Soulja Boy - he came outta middle skool into the big leagues by himself, u gotta love that.  the YOUNG BLACK AMERICAN DREAM
Lil' Wayne - too many internet bloggers posting bullshit that they know is FAR from the truth.  Lyrically Wayne crushes Biggie- stop lying to yourself.  Faggot or no Faggot Wayne treats the mic like a punk ass faggot... real talk.



UnderRated Producers:

can't think of any which in it'sself is depressing


UnderRated Rappers:

Plies - if u listen to his albums then you would already know Dude is the truth.  i think its mainly critism b4 ppl actually hear it.  Pre-hate... and eCrackers
Six 2 - mainstream wise
Pimp C - he was 1 of the greatest
Lil' Boosie - lissen to his albums and mixtapes and you would know what I'm talking about.  Webbie's last album had horrible production.
Glasses Malone - mainsteam wise
Snoop Dogg - he's a legend and he's bigger than the Doggy Dogg Snoop Dogg all of us hardcore hardcore rap supporters want to give him credit for.  Snoop not doin' what he did on Ego Trippin' would've been a bad career move.  Ego Trippin' is the shit, hands down.  Nowadays I can only find myself playing 4 or 5 (if that) tracks from Doggystyle and that whole era.  I can't remember the last time that whole DeathRow era still sounded fresh to me.  All Eyez On Me and Makaveli but that's it.
DJ Quik - what more can i say?
... and more TRUER artist (like a MJG).  carbon copies are cool if they're original (like Snoop is to Too Short) or (Rick Ross is to Biggie)


The South helped keep Hip Hop alive just as much as the East put it on and the West changed the face of the game.  Face it your favorite rappers, favortite rapper is somebody from the South.  The tune that's in your head b4 u go 2 sleep is probably southern influenced.  Face it you love the South.  I guess it's just overseasmen who dont appreciate the game and understand the game and aren't as hip to the culture and lifestyle and therapy that this game has to offer....
Premier - I disagree, maybe not as "music-like" as a Quik, but dude is one of the greatest.
Muggs - I never got into Cypress Hill so I can agree i guess; the shit he did with Cube was hot though.
Cool & Dre - they're alright..i don't even see them gettin that much love for you to put them in this category..
Daz - He's decent..he has decided to go with quantity over quality in the last few years..
Erotic D - no comment..

Rappers:
Kurupt - his prime is past but he can still come pretty damn good.
Lady of Rage - over rated on the west coast board, 2 bad she a "1 hit wonder" cause she can definitely SPIT.
T.I. - Trap Muzik/Urban Legend will always be ppl's 2 fav albums of his..he was really spitting and hungry then..U/L was a bit more commercial though.. so i see where you coming from..don't under appreciate King or Paper Trail though. TI VS TIP is his weakest album.
ODB - Never got into him, so yes, i agree.
Biggie - Disagree. Love dude. both his albums are nuts.
Clipse - Disagree. They got some crazy shit. They can really spit.
Ya Boy - I also don't see the hype.
Chamillionaire - NO. Dude is DOPE. Fresh as hell. Flows his ass off. Crazy lyrical content.
Consequence - Ain't got into him yet.
Willie D - Can't form an opinion; downloading the geto boys discography right now though ;D
Murs - He's pretty cool.
Royce - He's pretty solid.

Undeserving:
Lo - what do you mean undeserving? if you mean Lo is the worst rapper in the history of music, then yes, i agree.

More Deserving:
Soulja Boy - I respect his hustle and he came in the game, but he's trash.
Wayne - Not as bad as some hate on him, but not as good as others make him out to be. some of his lyrics don't make sense. he tries too hard at times.

Under-Rated:
Plies - I like dude. Some of his shit straight up ignorant as fuck though. Got some dope ass, slept on joints though (runnin my momma crazy, 1 day, somebody loves you).
Six-2: Ain't heard much from dude.
Pimp C: Wasn't that good of a rapper, he was ok. Hell of a hook singer and producer though. Overall great artist.
Boosie - I don't fuck with him, i think hes' pretty bad.
Malone - hell yea! malone is the shit!
Snoop - Under rated? he gets the love he deserves.
Quik - Ya, under rated. hell of an overall musician.
Title: Re: Do You Agree With Me, Seriously?
Post by: Paul on December 02, 2008, 10:48:30 AM
Murs - whats so hot about him.  what makes him anymore unique than any other average "night club" MC?



LOL, take the ear plugs out, not many night club tracks by Murs so fuck knows where you got that from

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=da8VvgCJNT8
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=9k0RIaJrdS8
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=pBLAc01k8kI&feature=related

Up your knowledge
Title: Re: Six 2
Post by: Dre-Day on December 02, 2008, 11:00:27 AM
ayo Lunatic, in case you're interested, Six 2's debut album just got released  ;)

check out http://www.dubcnn.com/connect/index.php?topic=202308.0 for more info + previews  ;)
Title: Re: Do You Agree With Me, Seriously?
Post by: penenstamp on December 02, 2008, 01:16:31 PM
Can somebody hook me up with that Six-2?
Title: Re: Do You Agree With Me, Seriously?
Post by: jeromechickenbone on December 02, 2008, 01:50:56 PM
I poop on this thread
Title: Re: Do You Agree With Me, Seriously?
Post by: Hoodlum204 on December 02, 2008, 02:21:58 PM
<b>LOL@ The Lookalikes</b>
Title: Re: Do You Agree With Me, Seriously?
Post by: ωεεźγ ғ on December 02, 2008, 02:25:50 PM
And i just pullout the bazooka WOW put a fukin hole in the flo
Title: Re: Do You Agree With Me, Seriously?
Post by: Lunatic on December 02, 2008, 02:28:22 PM
Chad: Yes I'm guilty! lol..I KNOW the Geto Boys, don't get me wrong, I have for years, just never took the time to hear their albums..that will change now though ;D
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Post by: Lunatic on December 02, 2008, 02:37:49 PM
^very true :laugh:

i'm very excited to hear it!
Title: Re: Do You Agree With Me, Seriously?
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on December 02, 2008, 04:32:23 PM
I see we still have loyalist around here when it comes to Preme (most of ya'll KNOW that I'm right, but dissin' a favorite isn't the popular thing to do but he's very very average if u ask me.  i just don't see his overall greatness, have you actually paid attention to how simple the music is?  And Soulja got many more years in the game of course he's no Wayne yet.  And speaking of Wayne, some1 must pay ya'll to type these lies and bullshit, I've never had a problem understanding what Wayne was getting at, NEVER- I've never listened to a Wayne track and been like "what's he talkin about" lol u guys are house niggas and FiOZ Fags.  I can prove my cases.  Hip Hop wouldn't be what it is today if it wasn't for the South.  How long do u think those so called "legends" SOME people are still talkin about gonna hold up in 4 years.  They'll be remembered but real niggaz know the truth
Title: Re: Do You Agree With Me, Seriously?
Post by: Blood$ on December 02, 2008, 05:05:32 PM
LMFAO at the whole thread
Title: Re: Do You Agree With Me, Seriously?
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on December 02, 2008, 06:05:44 PM
LMFAO at the whole thread

this thread wasnt to spark controvesy (even though i knew it would) i was simply still trying to find out how these e--fags still complain about the current wave of music but still hold on to the old heads.  i love all hip hop including DJ Premier but i just think that the level of disrespect and bias is thru tha roof for no reason.  the hate for an artist/song/trend is mind boggling when you actually sit there and compare the 4 or 5 different generations of hip hop thats been goin on thru tha past 25+yrs, you'd actually realize that its all tha same.  and hate and talkin shit dont do nothin 4 tha game but hurt it and make artist wana put out more of those records that sound too overly commercial and fake.  its the reason why dance hip hop took over MC Hip Hop.  hating and downloading- the death of ALL music and musicians and the killer of the future.  little do ya'll see it but boards like these carry over a tremendous impression on labels and rappers (you dont know hu is hu behind these screens).  Bashing artist like the SouljaBoys and the Rick Ross' and the Kanye West' and the Snoop Doggs' are only gona make more music turn out that way- and whats wrong with branching out like that and bein' better than the past.  LL passed the torch and so did KRS, what keeps making you think that what you're thinking is true- everybody is entitled to their own opinion, but ya'll r just hating forreal!
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Post by: white Boy on December 02, 2008, 06:25:33 PM
zzzz... lock this
Title: Re: Do You Agree With Me, Seriously?
Post by: Invincible on December 02, 2008, 07:58:39 PM
I see we still have loyalist around here when it comes to Preme (most of ya'll KNOW that I'm right, but dissin' a favorite isn't the popular thing to do but he's very very average if u ask me.  i just don't see his overall greatness, have you actually paid attention to how simple the music is?

Simple is best as far as I'm concerned. Thats why Primo and Dre are my favourites due to their non complicated beats. Try to hard and it just sounds a mess. That is what makes them great.

Damn at you thinking Biggie, Royce, ODB, Clipse T.I. and Chamillionaire being over rated, all good or great artists as far as I'm concerned.
Title: Re: Do You Agree With Me, Seriously?
Post by: The King on December 02, 2008, 10:37:58 PM
Lil' Wayne - too many internet bloggers posting bullshit that they know is FAR from the truth.  Lyrically Wayne crushes Biggie- stop lying to yourself.  Faggot or no Faggot Wayne treats the mic like a punk ass faggot... real talk.

You're such a moron. Wayne kissing another man can't be faked by internet bloggers. Either way, Lil Wayne sucks, his voice sucks, his flow sucks, his singing sucks, his lyrics really suck. He's the worst rapper on the planet, and you're just some loser caught up in the bullshit.
Title: Re: Do You Agree With Me, Seriously?
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on December 03, 2008, 12:07:45 AM
all that's on these boards are dumbasses trying to "own" you in a reply and morons who are just talking shit to talk shit knowing that they are completly wrong or halfly wrong.  Yes some1 plz lock this thread bcuz I've seen what I needed to see.  Why can't we have boards like Heavy Metal boards where the folx are tryin to pass knowledge, kick game, and preserve the value of hip hop.  I love all artist (especially Hip Hop artist) I love The Clipse but just bcuz they're attempting to make different shit doesn't make them beasts, but thats just my opinion- i'd hop on a track wit' em anyways (for free).  It's not even the issue of me putting out an honest conversation anymore its about the dumbasses who browse thru this site lookin' 4 somethin 2 do for 5 minutes.  time has revealed some of it's self with Hip Hop and it's messengers- and we see who's ontop and who's not 30 years later- and record execs do play a part, but not as many of ya'll would like to blame them for.  Rap is a nigga thing forreal forreal, not a "world" thing, it's OUR music not Frankie's from Malibu California or Gretchind's from Norway.  we make the hop hip ya'll are just the customers who steal the dinner and expect us to hand you deserts.
Title: Re: Do You Agree With Me, Seriously?
Post by: Birdie on December 03, 2008, 12:21:28 AM
Stop talkin' bullshits Biffag, I'm tired of these posts.

You can listen to Britney and I promise I'll remain calm ;).

Enjoy the ''overrated colabo'' (to you)...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3LTTIl1XaE
Title: Re: Do You Agree With Me, Seriously?
Post by: Al Bundy on December 03, 2008, 12:29:15 AM
Stop talkin' bullshits Biffag, I'm tired of these posts.

You can listen to Britney and I promise I'll remain calm ;).

Enjoy the ''overrated colabo'' (to you)...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3LTTIl1XaE

classic!
Title: Re: Do You Agree With Me, Seriously?
Post by: Birdie on December 03, 2008, 12:32:15 AM
classic!

Hell yeah!
Title: Re: Do You Agree With Me, Seriously?
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on December 03, 2008, 01:39:28 AM
opinions are opinions but facts are facts, and what I'm providing is facts- not over or understatements of R's and R'nts.  gettin ova your first love is always hard 2 do but sooner or later the truth sinx in and you move on to somethin different, somethin' new.  even the old folx gave up on the whole hip hop is garbage and its just a phase thing.
Title: Re: Do You Agree With Me, Seriously?
Post by: ωεεźγ ғ on December 03, 2008, 01:49:19 AM
  and those movies, half of 'em I've never seen or wanted to see.  to say that Pachino isn't a hollywood legend and is overrated is pushing the envelope alittle to far into the mailbox.  you guys dont exactly know who you're dissing I see.  opinions are opinions but facts are facts, and what I'm providing is facts- not over or understatements of R's and R'nts.
LOL, look, saying Al Pacino is overrated is just as blasphemous as saying Biggie is overrated, you could say both fathered a whole culture and iconed a generation. And since you claimed Biggie is overrated, you have no fucking right to say that saying Scarface is overrated is pushing the goddamn envelope, cause to me the only thing being pushed in this thread is wack ass drugs to your brain. And i also don't know what you mean by "you guys." That kid dad Vader is just posting random shit from sites which im perfectly conjuring is that it is not his own opinions unlike the OPINIONS you are stating, which are your own opinions. AND Facts? the only facts in this thread are the ones that state the fact that you suffer from dementia.
Title: Re: Do You Agree With Me, Seriously?
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on December 03, 2008, 01:51:15 AM
  and those movies, half of 'em I've never seen or wanted to see.  to say that Pachino isn't a hollywood legend and is overrated is pushing the envelope alittle to far into the mailbox.  you guys dont exactly know who you're dissing I see.  opinions are opinions but facts are facts, and what I'm providing is facts- not over or understatements of R's and R'nts.
LOL, look, saying Al Pacino is overrated is just as blasphemous as saying Biggie is overrated, you could say both fathered a whole culture and iconed a generation. And since you claimed Biggie is overrated, you have no fucking right to say that saying Scarface is overrated is pushing the goddamn envelope, cause to me the only thing being pushed in this thread is wack ass drugs to your brain. And i also don't know what you mean by "you guys." That kid dad Vader is just posting random shit from sites which im perfectly conjuring is that it is not his own opinions unlike the OPINIONS you are stating, which are your own opinions. AND Facts? the only facts in this thread are the ones that state the fact you suffer from dementia.

look hoe im not gona spend my bordom on "owning" people on the internet.  get a girlfriend.  im not stating opinions like i've said b4 im stating facts, tell me where I'm wrong,,,  matter of fact don't... cuz its not that serious.  time will prove me right and definatly so will next year
Title: Re: Do You Agree With Me, Seriously?
Post by: ωεεźγ ғ on December 03, 2008, 01:57:38 AM
  and those movies, half of 'em I've never seen or wanted to see.  to say that Pachino isn't a hollywood legend and is overrated is pushing the envelope alittle to far into the mailbox.  you guys dont exactly know who you're dissing I see.  opinions are opinions but facts are facts, and what I'm providing is facts- not over or understatements of R's and R'nts.
LOL, look, saying Al Pacino is overrated is just as blasphemous as saying Biggie is overrated, you could say both fathered a whole culture and iconed a generation. And since you claimed Biggie is overrated, you have no fucking right to say that saying Scarface is overrated is pushing the goddamn envelope, cause to me the only thing being pushed in this thread is wack ass drugs to your brain. And i also don't know what you mean by "you guys." That kid dad Vader is just posting random shit from sites which im perfectly conjuring is that it is not his own opinions unlike the OPINIONS you are stating, which are your own opinions. AND Facts? the only facts in this thread are the ones that state the fact you suffer from dementia.

look hoe im not gona spend my bordom on "owning" people on the internet.  get a girlfriend
i don't need to own you in this thread because you are owning yourself, just cause you do not have a worthy reply to my post does not mean i don't have a girlfriend. I did not think it was possible, even for a kid suffering from demenitia to be so ignorant while only mustering like 12 words in a sentence. I did not post in this thread out of boredom, i posted in this thread for the sake of question you asked, its ok i like working with the disabled.

ps. you keep editing your post, i can't keep up but for the sake of your last comment, yyou know what? i hope time does prove you right.
Title: Re: Do You Agree With Me, Seriously?
Post by: Dre-Day on December 03, 2008, 02:00:36 AM
ayo crackhead, i'd still like to know why Erotic D is overrated  8)
Title: Re: Do You Agree With Me, Seriously?
Post by: Birdie on December 03, 2008, 02:25:06 AM
look hoe im not gona spend my bordom on "owning" people on the internet.  get a girlfriend.  im not stating opinions like i've said b4 im stating facts, tell me where I'm wrong,,,  matter of fact don't... cuz its not that serious.  time will prove me right and definatly so will next year

So shut the fuck up with your point of view, WE AREN'T INTERESTED ANYMORE.

Bye, fag.
Title: Re: Do You Agree With Me, Seriously?
Post by: white Boy on December 03, 2008, 03:19:27 AM
i dont like that overated movie this, the chicks one i agree with mostly, the look alikes are amaizng
Title: Re: Do You Agree With Me, Seriously?
Post by: Birdie on December 03, 2008, 04:18:01 AM
Training Day = classic
Reservoir Dogs = classic
Scarface = the best movie ever to me, definately classic
Title: Re: Do You Agree With Me, Seriously?
Post by: GimmeYourShoes on December 03, 2008, 05:15:09 AM
List of Cool & Dre's good hip-hop beats:

Hate It or Love It

Decent ones:

-

Awful ones:

(Too many)



I also agree that Plies is whack and he is responsible of increased teen pregnancies and the high suicide rate of Iceland's.
Title: Re: Do You Agree With Me, Seriously?
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on December 03, 2008, 06:45:43 AM
ya'll r truely a bunch of fags
Title: Re: Do You Agree With Me, Seriously?
Post by: Birdie on December 03, 2008, 07:05:56 AM
List of Cool & Dre's good hip-hop beats:

Hate It or Love It

Decent ones:

-

Awful ones:

(Too many)

Co-sign!

Holy fuck, I looked at your sig and you've got Crazy there. I Shed Tears For The World is a decent album!

+1
Title: Re: Do You Agree With Me, Seriously?
Post by: Booz on December 03, 2008, 07:09:52 AM
ya'll r truely a bunch of fags
Says the industry boytoy who owns only Gucci products.
Title: Re: Do You Agree With Me, Seriously?
Post by: Furor Teutonicus on December 03, 2008, 07:30:25 AM
Training Day = classic
Reservoir Dogs = classic
Scarface = the best movie ever to me, definitely classic


10 Training Day = Dope
9 Reservoir Dogs = Dope
8 Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home = Don't believe I've seen this,but overrated?  :P Did it win a Oscar or something?  :laugh: :laugh:
7 The Others = Never heard of it....
6 Scarface = Bonafied classic
5 Shakespeare in Love = Not seen
4 Chicago = Not seen
3 Titanic = Bonafied classic
2 Clerks = Cult classic! Kevin Smith AKA can't find a better dialog writer.
1 Apocalypse Now = Shit is historic.... can't be questioned. Bonafied classic.


The only movie that deserves to be there is Shakespeare in Love (and please don't think that I watched it voluntarily). Don't know about Star Trek tho
Title: Re: Do You Agree With Me, Seriously?
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on December 03, 2008, 08:27:47 AM
http://www.youtube.com/v/oAhfJsR2SsM&hl=en&fs=1



this is just what ya'll needed to hear
Title: Re: Do You Agree With Me, Seriously?
Post by: penenstamp on December 03, 2008, 08:39:04 AM
http://www.youtube.com/v/oAhfJsR2SsM&hl=en&fs=1



this is just what ya'll needed to hear

What kind of garbage is that? Who is that?
Title: Re: Do You Agree With Me, Seriously?
Post by: penenstamp on December 03, 2008, 08:53:21 AM

More look alikes;
(http://cityrag.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/08/21/celebrity_dogs_2.jpg)


The chick on the right looks more like this animal

(http://www.deondernemer.nl/data/artikel/Shutterstock/BOG/.cache-467x307/paard.jpg)
Title: Re: Do You Agree With Me, Seriously?
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on December 03, 2008, 09:40:32 AM
i knew u bitches was wack
Title: Re: Do You Agree With Me, Seriously?
Post by: GimmeYourShoes on December 03, 2008, 10:19:16 AM
List of Cool & Dre's good hip-hop beats:

Hate It or Love It

Decent ones:

-

Awful ones:

(Too many)

Co-sign!

Holy fuck, I looked at your sig and you've got Crazy there. I Shed Tears For The World is a decent album!

+1
Yeah it's pretty decent album. I loved those Murder Inc albums so I decide to check this. I have no idea who did the producing on this album but it could have used some of Cazel's & Jazz's beats. Thank you for recognizing. Have a counter prop :)
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Post by: Þŕiņçë on December 03, 2008, 10:26:44 AM

More look alikes;
(http://cityrag.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/08/21/celebrity_dogs_2.jpg)


The chick on the right looks more like this animal

(http://www.deondernemer.nl/data/artikel/Shutterstock/BOG/.cache-467x307/paard.jpg)


(http://danstheman.com/BigDogTongueLOL.jpg)

LOL AT THAT DOG HAHA
Title: Re: Do You Agree With Me, Seriously?
Post by: K.Dub on December 03, 2008, 11:02:42 AM
I think this Big Booga needs to get his head checked if he's serious.
Title: Re: Do You Agree With Me, Seriously?
Post by: BiggBoogaBiff on December 03, 2008, 11:36:07 AM
I think this Big Booga needs to get his head checked if he's serious.

Just as serious as this clown;
(http://ramanankumar.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/bush_clown.jpg?w=200&h=262)

Yeah... Bush is a serious muthafucka dogg
Title: Re: Do You Agree With Me, Seriously?
Post by: Chamillitary Click on December 03, 2008, 01:58:59 PM
wow! where has this thread been? i have not seen this...

THIS IS RIDICULOUS! all the good rappers are "overrated"! :D

Kurupt, Cham, TI, Ya Boy, Royce?!?!? :D
Title: Re: Do You Agree With Me, Seriously?
Post by: Chamillitary Click on December 03, 2008, 02:10:53 PM
wow! where has this thread been? i have not seen this...

Right in front of your nose I believe;  ;)
(http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff177/salviaforme/album2/handfacenewkf-1.jpg)

lmao :laugh:
Title: Re: Do You Agree With Me, Seriously?
Post by: Chamillitary Click on December 03, 2008, 02:15:14 PM
wow! where has this thread been? i have not seen this...

Right in front of your nose I believe;  ;)
(http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff177/salviaforme/album2/handfacenewkf-1.jpg)

lmao :laugh:

this dog said it best;
(http://danstheman.com/BigDogTongueLOL.jpg)

LOL, god damn thats a massive tounge! :laugh: