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DUBCC - Tha Connection => West Coast Classics => Topic started by: woof on April 16, 2010, 06:19:09 PM
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gta cover LOL....i hope we´re gettin some unreleased music on that props for the info!
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Damn that is one ugly cover. I hope this won't have the leaks from "Say Hi To The Bad Guy".
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Now that Crook's fans get their album CAN I HAVE A 2PAC ALBUM!!!
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I'm not mad at the cover...at least it's not nearly as bad as Kurupts "Down & Dirty". I wonder why a tracklisting wasn't included with this ? (BTW...Is that a treacherous records chain he's wearing in the one pic ???)
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Now that Crook's fans get their album CAN I HAVE A 2PAC ALBUM!!!
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that´s not a real crooked i album and every crooked i fan would say you the same thing, Million Dollar Story will be his 1st album, actually slaughterhouse was his 1st one.
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I'm not mad at the cover...at least it's not nearly as bad as Kurupts "Down & Dirty". I wonder why a tracklisting wasn't included with this ? (BTW...Is that a treacherous records chain he's wearing in the one pic ???)
yes it´s the tr chain funny isn´t it?
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that´s not a real crooked i album and every crooked i fan would say you the same thing, Million Dollar Story will be his 1st album, actually slaughterhouse was his 1st one.
I think we all know that. I hope he releases his 1st official solo album soon.
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you think am7 is going to give us stuff he already didnt hand out on his bootlegs? i think not lol... all the guest spots point to it being almost EXACTLY like the FTP bootleg. not gonna buy tracks I have already, especially in the same quality.
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you think am7 is going to give us stuff he already didnt hand out on his bootlegs? i think not lol... all the guest spots point to it being almost EXACTLY like the FTP bootleg. not gonna buy tracks I have already, especially in the same quality.
Isn't am7 some Death Row fanatic that would murder his own mother for some unreleased Tupac material? He decides what is bein' released?
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that´s not a real crooked i album and every crooked i fan would say you the same thing, Million Dollar Story will be his 1st album, actually slaughterhouse was his 1st one.
I think we all know that. I hope he releases his 1st official solo album soon.
see that´s the question when ?
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(BTW...Is that a treacherous records chain he's wearing in the one pic ???)
Doesn't that pic say "meanwhile"... so it kinda makes sense.
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I wonder what Crooked I thinks about this.
Has he ever commented publicly about the Say Hi To Tha Bad Guy leaks ?
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Now that Crook's fans get their album CAN I HAVE A 2PAC ALBUM!!!
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that´s not a real crooked i album and every crooked i fan would say you the same thing, Million Dollar Story will be his 1st album, actually slaughterhouse was his 1st one.
yeah i understand homie but i was just refering to Wideawake/Death Row Records Vault.
& yeah it looks like guest are the same as SHTTBG FTPbootleg. but i don't really care bout it cause i ain't listenning Crooked I's music
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I have no reaction to this, in fact... I'm speechless.
LMFAO
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I wonder what Crooked I thinks about this.
Has he ever commented publicly about the Say Hi To Tha Bad Guy leaks ?
Yes, he has commented publicly about his Death Row material leaking.
He basically said in a past interview that he hopes more fans would keep the unreleased stuff on the low cause it hurts chances of getting it officially released.
That was a while ago...
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I wonder what Crooked I thinks about this.
Has he ever commented publicly about the Say Hi To Tha Bad Guy leaks ?
Yes, he has commented publicly about his Death Row material leaking.
He basically said in a past interview that he hopes more fans would keep the unreleased stuff on the low cause it hurts chances of getting it officially released.
That was a while ago...
Thanks for the info
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I wonder if Wide Awake owns the rights to those Crooked I images from his post Death Row days. lol...
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I'm pretty sure Crook gets paid off what they put out so I can't imagine he's too mad about it. I consider this dope news as I didn't buy any of the overpriced bootlegs so an official pressed copy works for me. I just hope the sound quality is half way decent, this time.
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you think am7 is going to give us stuff he already didnt hand out on his bootlegs? i think not lol... all the guest spots point to it being almost EXACTLY like the FTP bootleg. not gonna buy tracks I have already, especially in the same quality.
Isn't am7 some Death Row fanatic that would murder his own mother for some unreleased Tupac material? He decides what is bein' released?
am7 is ftp/ a consultant for wideawake if he hasnt been canned already. he has some say in what goes where. why? i dont know lol
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I'm pretty sure Crook gets paid off what they put out so I can't imagine he's too mad about it. I consider this dope news as I didn't buy any of the overpriced bootlegs so an official pressed copy works for me. I just hope the sound quality is half way decent, this time.
Oh don't get me wrong, I am looking forward to Death Row material too, but it looks like its the leaked stuff.
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Oh don't get me wrong, I am looking forward to Death Row material too, but it looks like its the leaked stuff.
I don't have any of the leaked stuff so I'm happy.
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Hmmm,the appearances make me think this is just the shit thats already leaked.Which would suck.Cover is ehhhh ill buy it though if it drops lol
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Crooked I speaks on this project briefly in new interview with OnSiteHipHop...
http://onsitehiphop.com/video_details.php?vid=4640#v
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What does he say,im a lazy,lazy man.
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What does he say,im a lazy,lazy man.
He said he may blocked it cause they don't have the rights to release it without his permission..
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Thats fucking lame....I just want to be able to own a Crooked I album before I die,and hes not going to do it on his own,now hes going to block this..sigh,just let the album go through its not going to hurt his career in any way and fans are going to buy it,all hes doing is fucking over the fans,once again.
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I wouldn't worry, I doubt this will sell more than 1000 copies.
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Yeah well Ill be buying one of them.
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I have feelin its gonna be shitty release just like Kurupts Down & Dirty with one really unreleased song. Im not waitin on Crooked Death Row album nomore, i'm satisfacted since Say Hi To The Bad Guy (Loss Skanless Version) leaked :)
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well lets just hope crook allows this release and it wont contain the same songs that have been leaked
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Thats fucking lame....I just want to be able to own a Crooked I album before I die,and hes not going to do it on his own,now hes going to block this..sigh,just let the album go through its not going to hurt his career in any way and fans are going to buy it,all hes doing is fucking over the fans,once again.
I know but he said some shit like he's want to move forward and this album will get him backwards or some shit like that.. anyway I got a feeling 75% of the tracks will be the ones that have leaked for the past year
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Well, the artwork...is okay. Why didn't they just release "Untouchable" or Say Hi to the Bad Guy," though? I remember when they first started doing interviews at Wideawake, they talked about all of this unreleased artwork from albums that they were going to start releasing. But you can't really use the unreleased artwork, if you keep changing the album names.
All in all, I don't hate this artwork. It's at least better than the cover for that Kurupt album. lol I guess I would just prefer that, when possible, they release the actual unreleased projects, not compilations made up of bits and pieces from them.
Oh well. Still looking forward to seeing the track list (I bet "Hood Star" is on there).
Oh, and I hope Crooked lets this release go through. I really don't understand why he thinks releasing 10 year old material is going to be so damaging. If anything, it's free promotion. Not to mention, it's a project for which he'll actually be getting paid.
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Damn that is one ugly cover. I hope this won't have the leaks from "Say Hi To The Bad Guy".
off course it will
I'm pretty sure Crook gets paid off what they put out so I can't imagine he's too mad about it. I consider this dope news as I didn't buy any of the overpriced bootlegs so an official pressed copy works for me. I just hope the sound quality is half way decent, this time.
how can you be so sure of that?
Well, the artwork...is okay. Why didn't they just release "Untouchable" or Say Hi to the Bad Guy," though? I remember when they first started doing interviews at Wideawake, they talked about all of this unreleased artwork from albums that they were going to start releasing. But you can't really use the unreleased artwork, if you keep changing the album names.
All in all, I don't hate this artwork. It's at least better than the cover for that Kurupt album. lol I guess I would just prefer that, when possible, they release the actual unreleased projects, not compilations made up of bits and pieces from them.
Oh well. Still looking forward to seeing the track list (I bet "Hood Star" is on there).
Oh, and I hope Crooked lets this release go through. I really don't understand why he thinks releasing 10 year old material is going to be so damaging. If anything, it's free promotion. Not to mention, it's a project for which he'll actually be getting paid.
that's not a fact
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Cover is one of the worst i've ever seen. Fuck releasin' this bullshit, they need to release "Untouchable".
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Cover is one of the worst i've ever seen. Fuck releasin' this bullshit, they need to release "Untouchable".
Yeah. After seeing that it's only 15 tracks long and it has features like Juvenile, KC, and Sisqo, it makes me think this is mostly going to be material that's already leaked. Which is dumb. Still hoping that we'll get at least a couple unreleased tracks on here, but who knows. Either way, it might be a moot point. Because even if they intended to release the entire "Untouchable" album, it seems like Crooked will try to block it. I just don't get this guy. It seems like he has "album-release-o-phobia."
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Cover is one of the worst i've ever seen. Fuck releasin' this bullshit, they need to release "Untouchable".
Yeah. After seeing that it's only 15 tracks long and it has features like Juvenile, KC, and Sisqo, it makes me think this is mostly going to be material that's already leaked. Which is dumb. Still hoping that we'll get at least a couple unreleased tracks on here, but who knows. Either way, it might be a moot point. Because even if they intended to release the entire "Untouchable" album, it seems like Crooked will try to block it. I just don't get this guy. It seems like he has "album-release-o-phobia."
LOL remember when he said he had multiple distribution deals on the table? :D
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Damn that is one ugly cover. I hope this won't have the leaks from "Say Hi To The Bad Guy".
off course it will
I'm pretty sure Crook gets paid off what they put out so I can't imagine he's too mad about it. I consider this dope news as I didn't buy any of the overpriced bootlegs so an official pressed copy works for me. I just hope the sound quality is half way decent, this time.
how can you be so sure of that?
Well, the artwork...is okay. Why didn't they just release "Untouchable" or Say Hi to the Bad Guy," though? I remember when they first started doing interviews at Wideawake, they talked about all of this unreleased artwork from albums that they were going to start releasing. But you can't really use the unreleased artwork, if you keep changing the album names.
All in all, I don't hate this artwork. It's at least better than the cover for that Kurupt album. lol I guess I would just prefer that, when possible, they release the actual unreleased projects, not compilations made up of bits and pieces from them.
Oh well. Still looking forward to seeing the track list (I bet "Hood Star" is on there).
Oh, and I hope Crooked lets this release go through. I really don't understand why he thinks releasing 10 year old material is going to be so damaging. If anything, it's free promotion. Not to mention, it's a project for which he'll actually be getting paid.
that's not a fact
Agreed that it's not a fact. Because after the mess with Dre, who knows. But typically, most artists wait until there's a problem before they sue someone.
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Cover is one of the worst i've ever seen. Fuck releasin' this bullshit, they need to release "Untouchable".
Yeah. After seeing that it's only 15 tracks long and it has features like Juvenile, KC, and Sisqo, it makes me think this is mostly going to be material that's already leaked. Which is dumb. Still hoping that we'll get at least a couple unreleased tracks on here, but who knows. Either way, it might be a moot point. Because even if they intended to release the entire "Untouchable" album, it seems like Crooked will try to block it. I just don't get this guy. It seems like he has "album-release-o-phobia."
LOL remember when he said he had multiple distribution deals on the table? :D
Man, there's been so many situations with him and albums, I've probably forgotten about half the things he's talked about with regard to releasing/distributing all the various incarnations of his eternally-impending debut album. The one constant though is that it crashes and burns every time, either by circumstance, or by Crook's own doing. Lately, it's been mostly the latter.
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we may have an announcement for an announcement soon from Crooked I about this
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a tracklist will solve the case. i`m in fear that we will get material we all know.
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"If I'm giving you free music, why are you bugging me to make you pay for music?"
I don't get this dude. He has people who actually want to BUY his album and he's fighting over it. Folks want to get past all the BS and jumping through the hoops. They want a full-length album quality release. They've been waiting on it for 10 years. I can understand him maybe not wanting Wideawake to go ahead if they aren't taking care of him on the business end but it's like "Come on. Give us an album already".
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^^^he probably chose the wrong profession
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"If I'm giving you free music, why are you bugging me to make you pay for music?"
I don't get this dude. He has people who actually want to BUY his album and he's fighting over it. Folks want to get past all the BS and jumping through the hoops. They want a full-length album quality release. They've been waiting on it for 10 years. I can understand him maybe not wanting Wideawake to go ahead if they aren't taking care of him on the business end but it's like "Come on. Give us an album already".
Crooked won't release an album cause he knows/is afraid of a flop. His first album should've came out back in the 90's when he was fuckin with Dogg Pound.
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"If I'm giving you free music, why are you bugging me to make you pay for music?"
I don't get this dude. He has people who actually want to BUY his album and he's fighting over it. Folks want to get past all the BS and jumping through the hoops. They want a full-length album quality release. They've been waiting on it for 10 years. I can understand him maybe not wanting Wideawake to go ahead if they aren't taking care of him on the business end but it's like "Come on. Give us an album already".
Crooked won't release an album cause he knows/is afraid of a flop. His first album should've came out back in the 90's when he was fuckin with Dogg Pound.
It's that in all actuality, Treacherous have played a rather big role in the postponement of Crooked I's debut.
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They will prolly put out the same tracks from FTP's bootleg with a 1787 version of the "Gangsta Rap" track as a bonus, LOL
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Judging from the features, I think its safe to say we're getting...
Hood Star
So Damn Hood Remix (feat. Sisqo, Juvenile)
Bitch (feat. Too Short, Ray J, Eastwood, Virginya Slim)
Me & My Dogg (feat. Eastwood, Ray J, Kci, Ganxsta Ridd)
Suge's West Coast (feat. Kurupt, Eastwood)
in other words, the same shit thats already been leaked. Now if only they did this months ago before the rest of the songs leaked...
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"If I'm giving you free music, why are you bugging me to make you pay for music?"
I don't get this dude. He has people who actually want to BUY his album and he's fighting over it. Folks want to get past all the BS and jumping through the hoops. They want a full-length album quality release. They've been waiting on it for 10 years. I can understand him maybe not wanting Wideawake to go ahead if they aren't taking care of him on the business end but it's like "Come on. Give us an album already".
Crooked won't release an album cause he knows/is afraid of a flop. His first album should've came out back in the 90's when he was fuckin with Dogg Pound.
It's that in all actuality, Treacherous have played a rather big role in the postponement of Crooked I's debut.
Let's not forget the four years he was on Death Row, he recorded 4 albums worth of material and Suge's lame ass couldn't / wouldn't put them out. Not to mention when Crooked actually left Death Row he was in court for a year. So, after 2005 was his real first shot to drop something on his own.
Anyway, back to this discussion...
I will put EVERYTHING on that this is just a combination of the FTP / LSN bootlegs. Wide Awake should be embarrassed that they are not putting out "Untouchable" or "Say Hi To The Bad Guy". There are complete Crooked I albums and they have to rely on compilations? The fans know better!
I can't believe they are marketing this as Crooked's debut album. I'm happy he's trying to block it, I'd be pretty upset too knowing it's being compiled by people who don't even know him.
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LOL how can they use Crookeds photos from Treacherous photo shoot, funny shit.
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Judging from the features, I think its safe to say we're getting...
Hood Star
So Damn Hood Remix (feat. Sisqo, Juvenile)
Bitch (feat. Too Short, Ray J, Eastwood, Virginya Slim)
Me & My Dogg (feat. Eastwood, Ray J, Kci, Ganxsta Ridd)
Suge's West Coast (feat. Kurupt, Eastwood)
in other words, the same shit thats already been leaked. Now if only they did this months ago before the rest of the songs leaked...
Wide Awake had to wait for LSN to leak, because they didn't have the songs, lmao.
Now, I wonder which version of songs we are getting... as we know most songs on LSN and FTP are different from each other. (House Party, Me & My Dogg, Suge's West Coast, etc). The thing that's even more annoying is that Juvenile is listed. Please don't tell me that they are putting the "So Damn Hood (Remix)". SMH... At least put the Big Hutch original.
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Crooked might as well block this release, since i'm 90% sure it will be GARBAGE.
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Crooked needs to block this...:)
We need stuff like Raw Dawgs, Crook Show, Ive Suffered, Bang On Em, Jack 101...those snippets sound sick
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Wide Awake don't give a fuck anymore
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i don't understand why w/a doesn't release the actual completed albums by the artists. we all know crook has at least two completed albums (four really, two versions of s.h.t.t.b.g, & two verisons of untouchable) anyway
according to crook he had the albums mixed, mastered, signed sealed & delivered but suge didn't put them out. maybe if w/a released the actual album & not a compilation of tracks crook might not block the release. i wonder if
crook does try to block this release & fails, if it will effect million dollar story release date.
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"If I'm giving you free music, why are you bugging me to make you pay for music?"
I don't get this dude. He has people who actually want to BUY his album and he's fighting over it. Folks want to get past all the BS and jumping through the hoops. They want a full-length album quality release. They've been waiting on it for 10 years. I can understand him maybe not wanting Wideawake to go ahead if they aren't taking care of him on the business end but it's like "Come on. Give us an album already".
Crooked won't release an album cause he knows/is afraid of a flop. His first album should've came out back in the 90's when he was fuckin with Dogg Pound.
It's that in all actuality, Treacherous have played a rather big role in the postponement of Crooked I's debut.
Let's not forget the four years he was on Death Row, he recorded 4 albums worth of material and Suge's lame ass couldn't / wouldn't put them out. Not to mention when Crooked actually left Death Row he was in court for a year. So, after 2005 was his real first shot to drop something on his own.
Anyway, back to this discussion...
I will put EVERYTHING on that this is just a combination of the FTP / LSN bootlegs. Wide Awake should be embarrassed that they are not putting out "Untouchable" or "Say Hi To The Bad Guy". There are complete Crooked I albums and they have to rely on compilations? The fans know better!
I can't believe they are marketing this as Crooked's debut album. I'm happy he's trying to block it, I'd be pretty upset too knowing it's being compiled by people who don't even know him.
Yeah. Plus if he blocks this, it will be good practice for the next time he blocks his own album.
Nah. Actually I've got mixed feelings about this album. On one hand, I'd like to see it drop if it contains anything unheard. But on the other hand, if it's just a rehash of the two bootlegs that Wideawake knows very well have already leaked, then I'd pretty much view it as just as big of a waste of time as that Kurupt "Down and Dirty" album.
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"If I'm giving you free music, why are you bugging me to make you pay for music?"
I don't get this dude. He has people who actually want to BUY his album and he's fighting over it. Folks want to get past all the BS and jumping through the hoops. They want a full-length album quality release. They've been waiting on it for 10 years. I can understand him maybe not wanting Wideawake to go ahead if they aren't taking care of him on the business end but it's like "Come on. Give us an album already".
Crooked won't release an album cause he knows/is afraid of a flop. His first album should've came out back in the 90's when he was fuckin with Dogg Pound.
It's that in all actuality, Treacherous have played a rather big role in the postponement of Crooked I's debut.
Let's not forget the four years he was on Death Row, he recorded 4 albums worth of material and Suge's lame ass couldn't / wouldn't put them out. Not to mention when Crooked actually left Death Row he was in court for a year. So, after 2005 was his real first shot to drop something on his own.
Anyway, back to this discussion...
I will put EVERYTHING on that this is just a combination of the FTP / LSN bootlegs. Wide Awake should be embarrassed that they are not putting out "Untouchable" or "Say Hi To The Bad Guy". There are complete Crooked I albums and they have to rely on compilations? The fans know better!
I can't believe they are marketing this as Crooked's debut album. I'm happy he's trying to block it, I'd be pretty upset too knowing it's being compiled by people who don't even know him.
Yeah. Plus if he blocks this, it will be good practice for the next time he blocks his own album.
Nah. Actually I've got mixed feelings about this album. On one hand, I'd like to see it drop if it contains anything unheard. But on the other hand, if it's just a rehash of the two bootlegs that Wideawake knows very well have already leaked, then I'd pretty much view it as just as big of a waste of time as that Kurupt "Down and Dirty" album.
I'm mean if they aren't trying to pay him for his own work, he should take legal actions against them.
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"If I'm giving you free music, why are you bugging me to make you pay for music?"
I don't get this dude. He has people who actually want to BUY his album and he's fighting over it. Folks want to get past all the BS and jumping through the hoops. They want a full-length album quality release. They've been waiting on it for 10 years. I can understand him maybe not wanting Wideawake to go ahead if they aren't taking care of him on the business end but it's like "Come on. Give us an album already".
Crooked won't release an album cause he knows/is afraid of a flop. His first album should've came out back in the 90's when he was fuckin with Dogg Pound.
It's that in all actuality, Treacherous have played a rather big role in the postponement of Crooked I's debut.
Let's not forget the four years he was on Death Row, he recorded 4 albums worth of material and Suge's lame ass couldn't / wouldn't put them out. Not to mention when Crooked actually left Death Row he was in court for a year. So, after 2005 was his real first shot to drop something on his own.
Anyway, back to this discussion...
I will put EVERYTHING on that this is just a combination of the FTP / LSN bootlegs. Wide Awake should be embarrassed that they are not putting out "Untouchable" or "Say Hi To The Bad Guy". There are complete Crooked I albums and they have to rely on compilations? The fans know better!
I can't believe they are marketing this as Crooked's debut album. I'm happy he's trying to block it, I'd be pretty upset too knowing it's being compiled by people who don't even know him.
Yeah. Plus if he blocks this, it will be good practice for the next time he blocks his own album.
Nah. Actually I've got mixed feelings about this album. On one hand, I'd like to see it drop if it contains anything unheard. But on the other hand, if it's just a rehash of the two bootlegs that Wideawake knows very well have already leaked, then I'd pretty much view it as just as big of a waste of time as that Kurupt "Down and Dirty" album.
I'm mean if they aren't trying to pay him for his own work, he should take legal actions against them.
I agree with that too. If they aren't trying to pay him, I don't blame him for taking legal action. I'm not sure that's the case though. It sounded from that interview you posted that Crooked I just doesn't want the material out. Being that I don't know who has more legal rights to it, I guess that would be up for a judge to decide. As far my interest though, if there's previously unheard music on here, I'd really like to hear it. But if it's more less another re-hash of the FTP or LSN bootleg or a combination of both, then I could really care less.
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"If I'm giving you free music, why are you bugging me to make you pay for music?"
I don't get this dude. He has people who actually want to BUY his album and he's fighting over it. Folks want to get past all the BS and jumping through the hoops. They want a full-length album quality release. They've been waiting on it for 10 years. I can understand him maybe not wanting Wideawake to go ahead if they aren't taking care of him on the business end but it's like "Come on. Give us an album already".
Crooked won't release an album cause he knows/is afraid of a flop. His first album should've came out back in the 90's when he was fuckin with Dogg Pound.
It's that in all actuality, Treacherous have played a rather big role in the postponement of Crooked I's debut.
Let's not forget the four years he was on Death Row, he recorded 4 albums worth of material and Suge's lame ass couldn't / wouldn't put them out. Not to mention when Crooked actually left Death Row he was in court for a year. So, after 2005 was his real first shot to drop something on his own.
Anyway, back to this discussion...
I will put EVERYTHING on that this is just a combination of the FTP / LSN bootlegs. Wide Awake should be embarrassed that they are not putting out "Untouchable" or "Say Hi To The Bad Guy". There are complete Crooked I albums and they have to rely on compilations? The fans know better!
I can't believe they are marketing this as Crooked's debut album. I'm happy he's trying to block it, I'd be pretty upset too knowing it's being compiled by people who don't even know him.
Yeah. Plus if he blocks this, it will be good practice for the next time he blocks his own album.
Nah. Actually I've got mixed feelings about this album. On one hand, I'd like to see it drop if it contains anything unheard. But on the other hand, if it's just a rehash of the two bootlegs that Wideawake knows very well have already leaked, then I'd pretty much view it as just as big of a waste of time as that Kurupt "Down and Dirty" album.
I'm mean if they aren't trying to pay him for his own work, he should take legal actions against them.
I agree with that too. If they aren't trying to pay him, I don't blame him for taking legal action. I'm not sure that's the case though.
It's a combination of both factors.
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Crooked might as well block this release, since i'm 90% sure it will be GARBAGE.
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"If I'm giving you free music, why are you bugging me to make you pay for music?"
I don't get this dude. He has people who actually want to BUY his album and he's fighting over it. Folks want to get past all the BS and jumping through the hoops. They want a full-length album quality release. They've been waiting on it for 10 years. I can understand him maybe not wanting Wideawake to go ahead if they aren't taking care of him on the business end but it's like "Come on. Give us an album already".
Crooked won't release an album cause he knows/is afraid of a flop. His first album should've came out back in the 90's when he was fuckin with Dogg Pound.
It's that in all actuality, Treacherous have played a rather big role in the postponement of Crooked I's debut.
Let's not forget the four years he was on Death Row, he recorded 4 albums worth of material and Suge's lame ass couldn't / wouldn't put them out. Not to mention when Crooked actually left Death Row he was in court for a year. So, after 2005 was his real first shot to drop something on his own.
Anyway, back to this discussion...
I will put EVERYTHING on that this is just a combination of the FTP / LSN bootlegs. Wide Awake should be embarrassed that they are not putting out "Untouchable" or "Say Hi To The Bad Guy". There are complete Crooked I albums and they have to rely on compilations? The fans know better!
I can't believe they are marketing this as Crooked's debut album. I'm happy he's trying to block it, I'd be pretty upset too knowing it's being compiled by people who don't even know him.
Yeah. Plus if he blocks this, it will be good practice for the next time he blocks his own album.
Nah. Actually I've got mixed feelings about this album. On one hand, I'd like to see it drop if it contains anything unheard. But on the other hand, if it's just a rehash of the two bootlegs that Wideawake knows very well have already leaked, then I'd pretty much view it as just as big of a waste of time as that Kurupt "Down and Dirty" album.
haha the sarcasm is strong here ;D
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crooked has been paid for his work, death row paid these cats salaries. if they dropped an album or not they got paid. plus crooked dont have legal rights to this music as far as i know
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I hope he doesnt block it, Wideawake is our only hope in getting a crooked i album, you know Crook's dumb ass will never put anything out.
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I hope he doesnt block it, Wideawake is our only hope in getting a crooked i album, you know Crook's dumb ass will never put anything out.
I highly doubt they are going to be selling anything we haven't heard.
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I hope he doesnt block it, Wideawake is our only hope in getting a crooked i album, you know Crook's dumb ass will never put anything out.
I highly doubt they are going to be selling anything we haven't heard.
"We" being the key word, the world is a lot bigger than the internet homie, plenty of people are gonna walk into bestbuy and not be familiar with those songs.
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crooked has been paid for his work, death row paid these cats salaries. if they dropped an album or not they got paid. plus crooked dont have legal rights to this music as far as i know
I don't know really much about Crooked's contracts but didn't he say that he owned his publishing when he was signed to Death Row..Does it matter anymore if they're releasing his DR songs now..??
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I hope he doesnt block it, Wideawake is our only hope in getting a crooked i album, you know Crook's dumb ass will never put anything out.
I highly doubt they are going to be selling anything we haven't heard.
"We" being the key word, the world is a lot bigger than the internet homie, plenty of people are gonna walk into bestbuy and not be familiar with those songs.
Good point, but then again how many people aren't going to even know about this release outside the Internet anyway?
I suppose the people that do happen to stumble upon this release accidentally will assume this is an official debut and then criticize about why it flopped so bad.
It's a bad look in my opinion.
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wasn't there words from back in the days where he had track with Nas or somethin? was that just rumor?
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wasn't there words from back in the days where he had track with Nas or somethin? was that just rumor?
Yeah the biggest names I remember hearing were Nas, Jadakiss, Too Short, and DMX. That was back when the East Coast was hot!
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crooked I don't even need to block this...its a fucking crooked I album...it will be delayed indefinitely
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wasn't there words from back in the days where he had track with Nas or somethin? was that just rumor?
Yeah the biggest names I remember hearing were Nas, Jadakiss, Too Short, and DMX. That was back when the East Coast was hot!
Yeah, I remember the Nas feature being discussed, but I was never able to confirm that being recorded. Never bothered to ask either.
I do know that the final version of Say Hi To The Bad guy was feature heavy though. Murder Inc was on it too.
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this is never dropping just like crooks album
JUST BE GLAD WITH THE FREE QUALITY MUSIC THE NIGGA DROPS
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wasn't there words from back in the days where he had track with Nas or somethin? was that just rumor?
Yeah the biggest names I remember hearing were Nas, Jadakiss, Too Short, and DMX. That was back when the East Coast was hot!
Yeah, I remember the Nas feature being discussed, but I was never able to confirm that being recorded. Never bothered to ask either.
I do know that the final version of Say Hi To The Bad guy was feature heavy though. Murder Inc was on it too.
Man I still have this Charli Baltimore track featuring Crooked I, I think it was called "The Showdown" or some shit. Shit was fire. I was actually looking forward to hearing Crook over some Irv Gotti / Chick Santana productions.
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wasn't there words from back in the days where he had track with Nas or somethin? was that just rumor?
Yeah the biggest names I remember hearing were Nas, Jadakiss, Too Short, and DMX. That was back when the East Coast was hot!
Yeah, I remember the Nas feature being discussed, but I was never able to confirm that being recorded. Never bothered to ask either.
I do know that the final version of Say Hi To The Bad guy was feature heavy though. Murder Inc was on it too.
Man I still have this Charli Baltimore track featuring Crooked I, I think it was called "The Showdown" or some shit. Shit was fire. I was actually looking forward to hearing Crook over some Irv Gotti / Chick Santana productions.
dope track indeed....sadly it's no longer rare
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I hope he doesnt block it, Wideawake is our only hope in getting a crooked i album, you know Crook's dumb ass will never put anything out.
I highly doubt they are going to be selling anything we haven't heard.
"We" being the key word, the world is a lot bigger than the internet homie, plenty of people are gonna walk into bestbuy and not be familiar with those songs.
as if they care for a Crooked I album :P
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I hope he doesnt block it, Wideawake is our only hope in getting a crooked i album, you know Crook's dumb ass will never put anything out.
I highly doubt they are going to be selling anything we haven't heard.
"We" being the key word, the world is a lot bigger than the internet homie, plenty of people are gonna walk into bestbuy and not be familiar with those songs.
as if they care for a Crooked I album :P
More people would care for a crooked i album then a bishop lamont album
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probably, but they're in the same boat
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Crooked needs to block this...:)
We need stuff like Raw Dawgs, Crook Show, Ive Suffered, Bang On Em, Jack 101...those snippets sound sick
man i would kill anyone for crook show and jack 101
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man i would kill anyone for crook show and jack 101
LOL
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crooked has been paid for his work, death row paid these cats salaries. if they dropped an album or not they got paid. plus crooked dont have legal rights to this music as far as i know
The other thing is, when Lavi was in charge I think she probably would have nixed the album at Crooked's request, even if she thought she was legally in the right. She seemed to care about establishing relationships with the artists. I don't know that that's the case with the current management. If they feel they have the legal right to put out this "Hood Star" album, I doubt they'll give much of a shit if Crooked I is happy about it or not. I guess it will all boil down to how confident do they feel that they have the legal right to put it out. If they feel it's within their rights, I'm sure they'll release it. I doubt they will feel especially inclined to do Crooked I any favors.
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Daz should put out the crooked I album he has in response to this...and then big c style should release the two albums he has as well lol.
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Daz should put out the crooked I album he has in response to this...and then big c style should release the two albums he has as well lol.
I would love to see all of those projects see a release, someday. I really like all of the Crooked I tracks that I have heard from that era. I don't think his flow was as refined then, as it is now. But it had a rawness to it that I think his newer stuff sometimes lacks. I think that's partly the reason people also want to hear his "Untouchable" album so much, as well. It's a shame Wideawake hadn't figured that out. Because whether this "Hood Star" album goes through or not, I think it's "Untouchable" that most people want to hear, at this point. Everyone has already heard a substantial amount of tracks from "Say Hi to the Bad Guy."
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crooked has been paid for his work, death row paid these cats salaries. if they dropped an album or not they got paid. plus crooked dont have legal rights to this music as far as i know
The other thing is, when Lavi was in charge I think she probably would have nixed the album at Crooked's request, even if she thought she was legally in the right. She seemed to care about establishing relationships with the artists. I don't know that that's the case with the current management. If they feel they have the legal right to put out this "Hood Star" album, I doubt they'll give much of a shit if Crooked I is happy about it or not. I guess it will all boil down to how confident do they feel that they have the legal right to put it out. If they feel it's within their rights, I'm sure they'll release it. I doubt they will feel especially inclined to do Crooked I any favors.
not really.
she was just talking shit
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crooked has been paid for his work, death row paid these cats salaries. if they dropped an album or not they got paid. plus crooked dont have legal rights to this music as far as i know
The other thing is, when Lavi was in charge I think she probably would have nixed the album at Crooked's request, even if she thought she was legally in the right. She seemed to care about establishing relationships with the artists. I don't know that that's the case with the current management. If they feel they have the legal right to put out this "Hood Star" album, I doubt they'll give much of a shit if Crooked I is happy about it or not. I guess it will all boil down to how confident do they feel that they have the legal right to put it out. If they feel it's within their rights, I'm sure they'll release it. I doubt they will feel especially inclined to do Crooked I any favors.
not really.
she was just talking shit
Lol. Well, what's your basis for saying that? Sure I'm taking her at her word to an extent. But my point is, if you look at the way the company has been run since she left, it's gone more downhill. You need look no further than that Kurupt album for proof of that. While any company is going to look at making a profit as the bottom line, at least Lara Lavi arranged face to face meetings with Crooked I and many of the other former artists, to try to win them over. I would almost guarantee that there's been none of that since she's left. Because all that's going down now is the investors scrambling to recoup any amount of money they can. That's all that Kurupt "Against the Grain" rehash was. It was never part of the originally planned releases from Wideawake. It was a knee-jerk reaction to put something out to try to make some money quickly. And that's probably all this "Hood Star" album is going to amount to. It doesn't seem like it's being handled with any care. It's not exactly "Say Hi to the Bad Guy," and it's definitely not "Untouchable." It's just a random collection of tracks put out in haste to make money. People with that mentality are just trying to make their money back, they definitely don't give a shit about the artist.
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So can anyone explain why am7 decides the tracklisting for all wideawake releases, and is against giving the people too many tracks that haven't already leaked?
Someone on here said that for this one he's prob just gonna pick tracks that were on the FTP bootleg.
What is he going to do with the rest of the Crooked I DR tracks? listen to them by himself?
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What is he going to do with the rest of the Crooked I DR tracks? listen to them by himself?
You asked the question of all questions, lol.
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Crooked I speaks on this project briefly in new interview with OnSiteHipHop...
http://onsitehiphop.com/video_details.php?vid=4640#v
song at 10.30???
any1?
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Crooked I speaks on this project briefly in new interview with OnSiteHipHop...
http://onsitehiphop.com/video_details.php?vid=4640#v
song at 10.30???
any1?
"My Life"
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What is he going to do with the rest of the Crooked I DR tracks? listen to them by himself?
You asked the question of all questions, lol.
well the question of all questions is what does am7 do with all the dr material he didnt bootleg? just blast in a room by himself and go ahhhhhh im one of 10 people with this shit???
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its fucked up that after 10 years of waiting for a crooked I album, this is what we get . If Crooked just realised that he is never ever going to be a top selling artist he could have released an album himself. Now for the rest of his life he would have to say that this garbage was him debut.
who gives a fuck about the Hip Hop Weekly freetyles.
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crooked has been paid for his work, death row paid these cats salaries. if they dropped an album or not they got paid. plus crooked dont have legal rights to this music as far as i know
The other thing is, when Lavi was in charge I think she probably would have nixed the album at Crooked's request, even if she thought she was legally in the right. She seemed to care about establishing relationships with the artists. I don't know that that's the case with the current management. If they feel they have the legal right to put out this "Hood Star" album, I doubt they'll give much of a shit if Crooked I is happy about it or not. I guess it will all boil down to how confident do they feel that they have the legal right to put it out. If they feel it's within their rights, I'm sure they'll release it. I doubt they will feel especially inclined to do Crooked I any favors.
not really.
she was just talking shit
Lol. Well, what's your basis for saying that? Sure I'm taking her at her word to an extent. But my point is, if you look at the way the company has been run since she left, it's gone more downhill. You need look no further than that Kurupt album for proof of that. While any company is going to look at making a profit as the bottom line, at least Lara Lavi arranged face to face meetings with Crooked I and many of the other former artists, to try to win them over. I would almost guarantee that there's been none of that since she's left. Because all that's going down now is the investors scrambling to recoup any amount of money they can. That's all that Kurupt "Against the Grain" rehash was. It was never part of the originally planned releases from Wideawake. It was a knee-jerk reaction to put something out to try to make some money quickly. And that's probably all this "Hood Star" album is going to amount to. It doesn't seem like it's being handled with any care. It's not exactly "Say Hi to the Bad Guy," and it's definitely not "Untouchable." It's just a random collection of tracks put out in haste to make money. People with that mentality are just trying to make their money back, they definitely don't give a shit about the artist.
the interviews & the reality.
she knew exactly what to say.
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What is he going to do with the rest of the Crooked I DR tracks? listen to them by himself?
You asked the question of all questions, lol.
well the question of all questions is what does am7 do with all the dr material he didnt bootleg? just blast in a room by himself and go ahhhhhh im one of 10 people with this shit???
Or sell it behind closed doors to some hardcore fanatics for 10x higher price - who knows..
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crooked has been paid for his work, death row paid these cats salaries. if they dropped an album or not they got paid. plus crooked dont have legal rights to this music as far as i know
The other thing is, when Lavi was in charge I think she probably would have nixed the album at Crooked's request, even if she thought she was legally in the right. She seemed to care about establishing relationships with the artists. I don't know that that's the case with the current management. If they feel they have the legal right to put out this "Hood Star" album, I doubt they'll give much of a shit if Crooked I is happy about it or not. I guess it will all boil down to how confident do they feel that they have the legal right to put it out. If they feel it's within their rights, I'm sure they'll release it. I doubt they will feel especially inclined to do Crooked I any favors.
not really.
she was just talking shit
Lol. Well, what's your basis for saying that? Sure I'm taking her at her word to an extent. But my point is, if you look at the way the company has been run since she left, it's gone more downhill. You need look no further than that Kurupt album for proof of that. While any company is going to look at making a profit as the bottom line, at least Lara Lavi arranged face to face meetings with Crooked I and many of the other former artists, to try to win them over. I would almost guarantee that there's been none of that since she's left. Because all that's going down now is the investors scrambling to recoup any amount of money they can. That's all that Kurupt "Against the Grain" rehash was. It was never part of the originally planned releases from Wideawake. It was a knee-jerk reaction to put something out to try to make some money quickly. And that's probably all this "Hood Star" album is going to amount to. It doesn't seem like it's being handled with any care. It's not exactly "Say Hi to the Bad Guy," and it's definitely not "Untouchable." It's just a random collection of tracks put out in haste to make money. People with that mentality are just trying to make their money back, they definitely don't give a shit about the artist.
the interviews & the reality.
she knew exactly what to say.
To the extent of how genuine she was being by saying she wanted to build relationships with the artists, I don't know. It's impossible to know what another person's true motivation is. But, she's the only one who even made the appearance of trying to reach out to the former artists. The people in charge clearly don't care about that aspect at this point. From that last interview, that investor from the bank clearly said that he doesn't want anything else to do with Death Row. He said he'd sell it to anyone that would give him his money back for it. That's the kind of mentality that caused them to release that latest Kurupt album, and probably this Crooked I album too, if it manages to get released.
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Does this shit have a tracklist yet?? Are Crook Show and Raw Dawgs on it?? Jack 101??
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but the question is, did she really care?
she sounded like a politician.
so i don't know if Wideawake was better off with her.
besides, was she really calling the shots when she was a CEO? i doubt it.
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but the question is, did she really care?
she sounded like a politician.
so i don't know if Wideawake was better off with her.
besides, was she really calling the shots when she was a CEO? i doubt it.
Well, I'm not trying to nominate her for sainthood or anything. Wideawake was poorly ran even when she was there. It's my opinion that things were better with her there than without her. But regardless of who was in charge, the company has yet to be ran with any efficiency. I don't even think of Wideawake as a company anymore though. More like just a few investors without any frame of reference for what they're doing (or any interest in what they're doing for that matter) just selling off tracks out of desperation, to try to make a few bucks before the whole thing implodes.
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Does this shit have a tracklist yet?? Are Crook Show and Raw Dawgs on it?? Jack 101??
Absolutely
NOT
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Does this shit have a tracklist yet?? Are Crook Show and Raw Dawgs on it?? Jack 101??
Absolutely
NOT
Crooked I - Raw Dawgs (produced by Darren Vegas straight outta crib before Death Row)
i would love to hear this in full !
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but the question is, did she really care?
she sounded like a politician.
so i don't know if Wideawake was better off with her.
besides, was she really calling the shots when she was a CEO? i doubt it.
Well, I'm not trying to nominate her for sainthood or anything. Wideawake was poorly ran even when she was there. It's my opinion that things were better with her there than without her. But regardless of who was in charge, the company has yet to be ran with any efficiency. I don't even think of Wideawake as a company anymore though. More like just a few investors without any frame of reference for what they're doing (or any interest in what they're doing for that matter) just selling off tracks out of desperation, to try to make a few bucks before the whole thing implodes.
fair enough.
i do believe that they had the opportunity to do it right, but they blew it.
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Does this shit have a tracklist yet?? Are Crook Show and Raw Dawgs on it?? Jack 101??
Absolutely
NOT
Crooked I - Raw Dawgs (produced by Darren Vegas straight outta crib before Death Row)
i would love to hear this in full !
I co-sign this!
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Does this shit have a tracklist yet?? Are Crook Show and Raw Dawgs on it?? Jack 101??
Absolutely
NOT
lol ok, you know if it will ever see the light of day?
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Does this shit have a tracklist yet?? Are Crook Show and Raw Dawgs on it?? Jack 101??
Absolutely
NOT
lol ok, you know if it will ever see the light of day?
I have no idea and I was just joking with my post, to be honest, none of us know the track list until Wide Awake releases it. I'm just making a guess, lol.
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Does anyone know if Crooked is in possession of all or the majority of his unreleased material, or are they only scattered around in various collector's stashes & in Wideawakes vaults ??? Just wondered if he hasn't listened to some of these tracks in years until they have recently resurfaced.
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they are only scattered around in various collector's stashes & in Wideawakes vaults
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they are only scattered around in various collector's stashes & in Wideawakes vaults
Thanks for the info Tanner.
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whats the lsn version tracklist?
i didnt know it leaked
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I actually like the cover !
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There is ONE good thing about this release IF it does drop...
People can no longer use the argument "Crooked I doesn't have an album in stores."
8)
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There is ONE good thing about this release IF it does drop...
People can no longer use the argument "Crooked I doesn't have an album in stores."
8)
But if it does contain all the leaked material people are going to reference how its not a very good album
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There is ONE good thing about this release IF it does drop...
People can no longer use the argument "Crooked I doesn't have an album in stores."
8)
Well, at least, we can say there's a solo project but I don't view collections of music from 5 or 6 years ago with limited or no input from the artist or his current label as "albums" but everyone has their own opinions. I'd just be happy to have a Crooked I record in stores. I could care less if the material is already leaked because like I said, I don't own it. I just hope the quality is better than the Snoop disc they put out.
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There is ONE good thing about this release IF it does drop...
People can no longer use the argument "Crooked I doesn't have an album in stores."
8)
Well, at least, we can say there's a solo project but I don't view collections of music from 5 or 6 years ago with limited or no input from the artist or his current label as "albums" but everyone has their own opinions. I'd just be happy to have a Crooked I record in stores. I could care less if the material is already leaked because like I said, I don't own it. I just hope the quality is better than the Snoop disc they put out.
Yeah, I hear what your saying.
I wouldn't really consider it an album either, but at least I don't have to hear that "I can't buy his shit" argument anymore lol.
I'm not expecting any of the leaked material to sound much better than what we've heard, but you never know.
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There is ONE good thing about this release IF it does drop...
People can no longer use the argument "Crooked I doesn't have an album in stores."
8)
People who still say this should buy Young Boss 2, or Block Obama 2
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There is ONE good thing about this release IF it does drop...
People can no longer use the argument "Crooked I doesn't have an album in stores."
8)
Well, at least, we can say there's a solo project but I don't view collections of music from 5 or 6 years ago with limited or no input from the artist or his current label as "albums" but everyone has their own opinions. I'd just be happy to have a Crooked I record in stores. I could care less if the material is already leaked because like I said, I don't own it. I just hope the quality is better than the Snoop disc they put out.
Yeah, I hear what your saying.
I wouldn't really consider it an album either, but at least I don't have to hear that "I can't buy his shit" argument anymore lol.
I'm not expecting any of the leaked material to sound much better than what we've heard, but you never know.
I would consider it an album, had they decided to release either version of "Untouchable" or "Say Hi to the Bad Guy," as those were official proposed albums. But yeah, this whatever it is they're trying to put out is a compilation in my opinion. I'll probably still support it since it will still be a full-length retail Crooked I release that I can find in a store. And after all these years, even that seems like an achievement. But since Crooked I's intention is to block it, I guess we'll have to see if it even gets released first.
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There is ONE good thing about this release IF it does drop...
People can no longer use the argument "Crooked I doesn't have an album in stores."
8)
People who still say this should buy Young Boss 2, or Block Obama 2
yeah, since it's a mixtape and an e.p. and they r available everywhere... ::)
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crooked has been paid for his work, death row paid these cats salaries. if they dropped an album or not they got paid. plus crooked dont have legal rights to this music as far as i know
The other thing is, when Lavi was in charge I think she probably would have nixed the album at Crooked's request, even if she thought she was legally in the right. She seemed to care about establishing relationships with the artists. I don't know that that's the case with the current management. If they feel they have the legal right to put out this "Hood Star" album, I doubt they'll give much of a shit if Crooked I is happy about it or not. I guess it will all boil down to how confident do they feel that they have the legal right to put it out. If they feel it's within their rights, I'm sure they'll release it. I doubt they will feel especially inclined to do Crooked I any favors.
not really.
she was just talking shit
Lol. Well, what's your basis for saying that? Sure I'm taking her at her word to an extent. But my point is, if you look at the way the company has been run since she left, it's gone more downhill. You need look no further than that Kurupt album for proof of that. While any company is going to look at making a profit as the bottom line, at least Lara Lavi arranged face to face meetings with Crooked I and many of the other former artists, to try to win them over. I would almost guarantee that there's been none of that since she's left. Because all that's going down now is the investors scrambling to recoup any amount of money they can. That's all that Kurupt "Against the Grain" rehash was. It was never part of the originally planned releases from Wideawake. It was a knee-jerk reaction to put something out to try to make some money quickly. And that's probably all this "Hood Star" album is going to amount to. It doesn't seem like it's being handled with any care. It's not exactly "Say Hi to the Bad Guy," and it's definitely not "Untouchable." It's just a random collection of tracks put out in haste to make money. People with that mentality are just trying to make their money back, they definitely don't give a shit about the artist.
the interviews & the reality.
she knew exactly what to say.
To the extent of how genuine she was being by saying she wanted to build relationships with the artists, I don't know. It's impossible to know what another person's true motivation is. But, she's the only one who even made the appearance of trying to reach out to the former artists. The people in charge clearly don't care about that aspect at this point. From that last interview, that investor from the bank clearly said that he doesn't want anything else to do with Death Row. He said he'd sell it to anyone that would give him his money back for it. That's the kind of mentality that caused them to release that latest Kurupt album, and probably this Crooked I album too, if it manages to get released.
apparently Crooked I has been approached by wideawake:
http://www.dubcnn.com/interviews/sabrina/
my bad, i guess i was a bit biased
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apparently Crooked I has been approached by wideawake:
http://www.dubcnn.com/interviews/sabrina/
looks like Crooked I is ok with this release
Dubcnn: Can you go into further detail about your involvement with Death Row Records?
Well, as you know, technically under the new ownership it’s WIDEawake / Death Row Records. But anyway, we just finished up the artwork for Crooked I’s upcoming album, “Hood Star”. By the way, I’ve got to clear something up about that – an image was leaked recently from the album and it’s disappointing because it wasn’t portrayed the right way in the message board forums. It’s confusing to everyone because the image that people are seeing is not the final layout for the album. There is a lot of talk going on about it because people are just confused, and I get that. There was also a one-sheet that was leaked along with the image and people are mistaking it as part of the album’s artwork, which it is not.
The full album artwork is based around a comic book theme with multiple pages and as of now it has only been seen by a few. I’m excited for people to finally see the real “Hood Star” layout in its full comic book style so they can actually see the album’s artwork in its entirety because what they’ve seen so far is not the proper presentation.
I can tell you this: WIDEawake sent the graphics to Crooked I’s people to get approval from him and permission to use his likeness in the graphics and it all came back approved, with the exception of him requesting that all red be removed from the cover completely -- which is funny to me (laughs). So the album is coming out June 15th with a very dope design and everyone will be happy because it represents Crooked I, C.O.B, Long Beach, comic book fans and the whole west coast in general.
It was an honor to do the project and I’m looking forward to its release. But, let me stress again, what you have seen so far is not the full album artwork presentation. So just keep an eye out.
Dubcnn: So you can expect that people will ask if you know what the tracklisting is for Crooked I’s “Hood Star” because there’s been speculation that –
I’m sorry, I don’t mean to cut you off, but yes, I know what the tracklisting is because, like I said, the company I work with did the artwork so you’re hearing this from the horse’s mouth. But there’s no way that I could jump the gun and give information right now about the song titles because, as I’m sure you understand, it could compromise our relationship with WIDEawake / Death Row. But Crooked I is one of the dopest MCs, hands down, and so you know the album will not disappoint.
You know, this new transition with Death Row Records has really been criticized by some fans and even the media, which I think is unfair. I deal with these people directly and I can tell you first hand that they have nothing but good intentions. John Payne is one of the nicest, most genuine and down-to-earth people you will ever meet. Instead of trying to hate them, I wish more people would support them and appreciate their efforts because they are releasing all the music from the Death Row vaults. As a fan, I can’t wait to hear the unreleased Death Row Tupac stuff.
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crooked has been paid for his work, death row paid these cats salaries. if they dropped an album or not they got paid. plus crooked dont have legal rights to this music as far as i know
The other thing is, when Lavi was in charge I think she probably would have nixed the album at Crooked's request, even if she thought she was legally in the right. She seemed to care about establishing relationships with the artists. I don't know that that's the case with the current management. If they feel they have the legal right to put out this "Hood Star" album, I doubt they'll give much of a shit if Crooked I is happy about it or not. I guess it will all boil down to how confident do they feel that they have the legal right to put it out. If they feel it's within their rights, I'm sure they'll release it. I doubt they will feel especially inclined to do Crooked I any favors.
not really.
she was just talking shit
Lol. Well, what's your basis for saying that? Sure I'm taking her at her word to an extent. But my point is, if you look at the way the company has been run since she left, it's gone more downhill. You need look no further than that Kurupt album for proof of that. While any company is going to look at making a profit as the bottom line, at least Lara Lavi arranged face to face meetings with Crooked I and many of the other former artists, to try to win them over. I would almost guarantee that there's been none of that since she's left. Because all that's going down now is the investors scrambling to recoup any amount of money they can. That's all that Kurupt "Against the Grain" rehash was. It was never part of the originally planned releases from Wideawake. It was a knee-jerk reaction to put something out to try to make some money quickly. And that's probably all this "Hood Star" album is going to amount to. It doesn't seem like it's being handled with any care. It's not exactly "Say Hi to the Bad Guy," and it's definitely not "Untouchable." It's just a random collection of tracks put out in haste to make money. People with that mentality are just trying to make their money back, they definitely don't give a shit about the artist.
the interviews & the reality.
she knew exactly what to say.
To the extent of how genuine she was being by saying she wanted to build relationships with the artists, I don't know. It's impossible to know what another person's true motivation is. But, she's the only one who even made the appearance of trying to reach out to the former artists. The people in charge clearly don't care about that aspect at this point. From that last interview, that investor from the bank clearly said that he doesn't want anything else to do with Death Row. He said he'd sell it to anyone that would give him his money back for it. That's the kind of mentality that caused them to release that latest Kurupt album, and probably this Crooked I album too, if it manages to get released.
apparently Crooked I has been approached by wideawake:
http://www.dubcnn.com/interviews/sabrina/
my bad, i guess i was a bit biased
No problem. I appreciate the acknowledgment. But even I have to admit, I find these conflicting reports a little confusing. First Crooked I says in a live interview that he's probably going to block the release of this. Then, this person says that Crooked's people did indeed approve the artwork. Naturally my first thought is, if Crooked I is opposed to this being released, why in the world would he or anyone who represents him give approval for the album's artwork? On one hand, I'm happy to know that a. that album cover isn't the finished work and b. perhaps Crooked I is now on board with this project, but on the other hand, part of me is still waiting to hear something else official from Crooked I's camp. It's not that I think that Sabrina is lying or that Crooked I has definitely changed his mind, I'm just wondering if both parties are completely on the same page. I hope so. But I guess we'll have to wait and see. Hopefully we'll see a track list for this thing pretty soon, too.
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yeah it's confusing
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Im guessing he approved it before Slaughterhouse got their deal with Shady, now he probly wants to distance himself as much as possible from DR.
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crooked has been paid for his work, death row paid these cats salaries. if they dropped an album or not they got paid. plus crooked dont have legal rights to this music as far as i know
The other thing is, when Lavi was in charge I think she probably would have nixed the album at Crooked's request, even if she thought she was legally in the right. She seemed to care about establishing relationships with the artists. I don't know that that's the case with the current management. If they feel they have the legal right to put out this "Hood Star" album, I doubt they'll give much of a shit if Crooked I is happy about it or not. I guess it will all boil down to how confident do they feel that they have the legal right to put it out. If they feel it's within their rights, I'm sure they'll release it. I doubt they will feel especially inclined to do Crooked I any favors.
not really.
she was just talking shit
Lol. Well, what's your basis for saying that? Sure I'm taking her at her word to an extent. But my point is, if you look at the way the company has been run since she left, it's gone more downhill. You need look no further than that Kurupt album for proof of that. While any company is going to look at making a profit as the bottom line, at least Lara Lavi arranged face to face meetings with Crooked I and many of the other former artists, to try to win them over. I would almost guarantee that there's been none of that since she's left. Because all that's going down now is the investors scrambling to recoup any amount of money they can. That's all that Kurupt "Against the Grain" rehash was. It was never part of the originally planned releases from Wideawake. It was a knee-jerk reaction to put something out to try to make some money quickly. And that's probably all this "Hood Star" album is going to amount to. It doesn't seem like it's being handled with any care. It's not exactly "Say Hi to the Bad Guy," and it's definitely not "Untouchable." It's just a random collection of tracks put out in haste to make money. People with that mentality are just trying to make their money back, they definitely don't give a shit about the artist.
the interviews & the reality.
she knew exactly what to say.
To the extent of how genuine she was being by saying she wanted to build relationships with the artists, I don't know. It's impossible to know what another person's true motivation is. But, she's the only one who even made the appearance of trying to reach out to the former artists. The people in charge clearly don't care about that aspect at this point. From that last interview, that investor from the bank clearly said that he doesn't want anything else to do with Death Row. He said he'd sell it to anyone that would give him his money back for it. That's the kind of mentality that caused them to release that latest Kurupt album, and probably this Crooked I album too, if it manages to get released.
apparently Crooked I has been approached by wideawake:
http://www.dubcnn.com/interviews/sabrina/
my bad, i guess i was a bit biased
No problem. I appreciate the acknowledgment. But even I have to admit, I find these conflicting reports a little confusing. First Crooked I says in a live interview that he's probably going to block the release of this. Then, this person says that Crooked's people did indeed approve the artwork. Naturally my first thought is, if Crooked I is opposed to this being released, why in the world would he or anyone who represents him give approval for the album's artwork? On one hand, I'm happy to know that a. that album cover isn't the finished work and b. perhaps Crooked I is now on board with this project, but on the other hand, part of me is still waiting to hear something else official from Crooked I's camp. It's not that I think that Sabrina is lying or that Crooked I has definitely changed his mind, I'm just wondering if both parties are completely on the same page. I hope so. But I guess we'll have to wait and see. Hopefully we'll see a track list for this thing pretty soon, too.
THE VIDEO INTERVIEW IS VERY RECENT SO I BELIEVE HE WILL TRY & BLOCK IT STILL, BUT YOU NEVER KNOW THESE DAYS
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The album is coming out on the 15th... 8)
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Wide Awake must have cut him a nice check.